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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-09/05/1995 330 SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD SEPTEMBER; 5, 1995 WORK SESSION Present: Supervisor Thomas Wickham, Councilman Joseph J. Lizewski (9:30 A.M. ) , Councilwoman Alice Hussie; .Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr. , Councilwoman Ruth D. Oliva, Justice Louisa P. Evans, Town Clerk Judith T. Terry, Helen Rosenblum, Shelter Island Town Attorney, acting on behalf of Town Attorney Laury L. .Dowd. 9 : 10 A.M. - Board of Ethics members William M.ilusich, Chairperson, Richard Ploth, and Blanche Katz, met with the Town Board to explain their accomplishments" to date, how they view their role of .oversight,; and their future plans for revising the Annual Financial Disclosure Statement, ,reviewing the need for revisions to the Ethics Law, and to assure that the statement is consistent with the law. 9 :40 A.M. - Public Safety Dispatcher III John Raynor met with the Board to explain a' proposed agreement with Nextel Communications for the lease of space on the Town's communications tower in Peconic. Nextel is proposing to pay the Town a monthly lease rate of $1 ,600' for the privilege. Board agreed to the proposal (resolution 26) , but asked Mr. Raynor to consult with Town Attorney Dowd concerning the 25 year :length of the .lease,. .w.hi.ch she has a problem with. 9:50 A.M. - Justice Evans . updated the- Board on Fishers Island matters. One, . would the Town allow their. . name to be• used in a lawsuit by the Fishers Island Conservancy -against the U.S. Navy in a dredging project - Board unlikely to approve such - a move. Secondly, the Coast' Guard is moving off of the Island and the people would like theme to give their land to the Fishers Island Ferry District or the Town. At the present time they are: attempting 'to. get legislation toward this end. 10: 15 A.M. - Board interviewed Howard Meinke for a position on the- Architectural Review Committee. 10 :25 -A.M. - Supervisor .Wickham advised the Town Board that there is to be an emergency Greenport Village Board. meeting at 11 :30 A.M. to discuss 'police protection in .the village, and the , rash of robberies and burglaries over the weekend. Supervisor Wickham and Polfce Chief Droskoski will go to the meeting. 10 :30 A.M. - Jody Adams met with the Town' Board to discuss her appeal of an answer she .received from Chief Droskoski on: a Freedom of Information Request. Ms. Adams requested files and records .pertaining to the investigation of a complaint .by Nina Fischer, and Chief Droskoski provided six Incident Reports, but stated there were no reports or written material generated in regards to conversations . between the Chief. and. Nina Fischer... He said that investigative reports are not included in the statute regarding Freedom of Information Law. However, it was determined that Detective Reiter conducted .an investigatio;n,. but did not generate . any written- reports.---Accordingly, the appeal' was denied. 10:50 A.M. - Engineering , Inspector James Richter met with the Town Board to review: the survey and recommendation study prepared by WPS Consulting Engineers, P.C. on the general conditioned air change; to comply with code, and exhaust hood changes to, conserve energy consumed by .the kitchen range exhaust hoods at the Human Resource Center. It was the conclusion of the report, and Mr. Richter concurred, that the work proposed by -Daniel Karpen is an unnecessary expense (report on file in Town Clerk's Office) . ----Also discussed at this: time was the results of the bids to repair or replace the HVAC system in the east end of Town Hall (resolution 28) . SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 331 11 : 10 A.M. - The -Town Board discussed the questions raised at the August 22nd work session (a) can the elected office, of Receiver of Taxes be replaced by an appointed office, and (b) what is the timing of Board action necessary to seek a vote in the November 1995 election. Towne Attorney Dowd provided the Board with a memorandum reviewing the questions, which concluded -that it would be too late to adopt a local law for consideration at the November 7th election, therefore, if they wished to proceed a special election would be required to consider the local law. (Marilyn. Quintana, clerk in the -tax receiver's office, and candidate for Receiver of Taxes, was iri attendance during this 'discussion. ) The Board agreed that they do not wish to move ahead with' the issue at this time, but will consider it at another time.----Town Clerk Terry submitted for the Board's consideration the current fees for shellfish, beaches, disposal area. This will be discussed again at the September 19th work session. 11 :30 A.M. - Former Police Officer James Mellas met with the Town Board to request reimbursement for time spent testifying on 'behalf of the Town in a lawsuit in the spring. The Town's insurance company paid for travel expenses, but did not reimburse him 'for 56 hours of preparation and court time for the lawsuit. He is requesting $1690.20, which is 56, hours at straight time per hour at the time he retired from the police department. The Board was divided on whether to pay or not, even though they received an opinion from the Town's labor management consultants advising against it, stating it would be conferring upon the PBA a benefit they are not contractually entitled to. The Board reserved decision on this matter.----In other personnel matters, the Board placed a resolution (32) on the agenda authorizing the Town Clerk to ' advertise for a temporary part-time Clerk Typist for the Justice Court to fill in while an employee is on sick leave.---- Referred 'a proposed "Local Law in Relation ,to Members of the Architectural Review Committee" to the Town and County Planning Boards . (29) for recommendations and reports.----Placed resolutions (30&31) on the agenda to create a second Data Entry Operator .position, and appoint Patricia Garsick, a part-time Clerk Typist at Police Headquarters, to that position. Prior to the 4:30 P.M. meeting these resolutions were p. laced on hold to allow Board member.s to research this further.----Resolution 33 was placed on the agenda to reappoint: the, members of the Tree Committee. 12:10 P.M. - Recess for lunch. 1 :45 P.M. - Work Session reconvened and the Town Board discussed a proposed "Local Law in Relation to Flea Markets", placing a resolution (34) on the agenda to refer it to the Town and County Planning. Boards for recommendations and reports.----Town Board reviewed a proposed letter, on behalf of the Southold Fire District Commissioners, to reside.nts whose private roads adjacent to their property have accessibility problems and/or poor road conditions. The Code requires the property owners to remedy this problem.----Councilman Townsend discussed a proposed TDR meeting of select individuals to discuss the TDR proposal. Councilpeople Hussie and Lizewski said they would like a meeting of the Town Board members first to discuss the plan before inviting others. Justice Evans said she also would like to. meet and review it- and eliminate certain parts before taking it to the public. Board members Wickham, Townsend, Oliva said they would like to move forward and get the input of the people in the receiving areas. The Board ultimately agreed to 115 minutes . at the next work session to discuss the TDR proposal. 2 :25 P.M. - The Town Board discussed the Strong's Marine change of zone decision. (in , attendance - Jeff Strong, Planning Board member William Cremers, Senior Planner Valerie Scopaz. ) The Board reviewed a letter from Mr. Strong's attorney Charles Cuddy, citing a discrepancy in subparagraph "b" of the Board's resolution, which stated a 50 foot scenic easement 'throughout, when the map submitted with the change of zone, and wording proposed by Mr. Strong said "a 50-foot scenic easement as shown on the survey for zoning change as submitted by Peconic Surveyors, PC under date of March 1, 1995." Discussion ensued by all concerned and the Board eventually placed a resolution (35) on the agenda to amend their prior resolution to conform to the wording in Mr. Cuddy's letter. 3 : 10 P.M. - Supervisor Wickham updated the Board on the lighting situation at Town Hall, Police Headquarters, and the Human Resource Center. fie said he recently consulted with Lee Richman who heads the lighting design firm of Nutone Lighting, and ordered 25 new light bulbs that produce more light, are one-half the cost of the, lights presently in the fixtures, and consume less electricity than those lights. The Town Board agreed to purchase more of the bulbs for use throughout the affected buildings.----Town Board reviewed a request recently received by Supervisor Wickham from The Commoners for the Town to accept_ title to their holdings in Peconic and Cutchogue. This matter was referred to the Land Preservation Committee for recommendation and report.-----rhe proposal for implementing the 1996 Grants Program was discussed briefly and will be back on for discussion at the September 19th work session. SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 r , :25 P.M. - Fritz Trinkline, -YMCA representative, met with the Town Board to give an overview of the proposed YMCA to be constructed on Town property at Laurel Lake. Mr.., Tririklihe went over the!•proposed, costs _ : construction, operating budget, fund raising plan, types of membership, and displayed artist's renderings of the proposed building. 4:10 P.M. - Supervisor Wickham briefed, the Board on the results of the special meeting of the Greenport Village Board that he attended with Chief Droskoski earlier in-the .day concerning police protection by the Town. 4:20 P.M. = Town Board reviewed the resolutions to be voted on at the 4:30 P.M. Regular Meeting. 4 :28 P.M. - Work Session adjourned. REGULAR MEETING A Regular Meeting of the Southold; Town Board was held on September 5, 1995, at the Southold Town Hall.; Main Road, Southold, New York. Supervisor Wickham opened the meeting at 4:30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Present: Supervisor Thomas H. Wickham Councilman Josepb J. Lizewski Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr. Councilwoman Ruth D. Oliva Justice Louisa P. Evans Town Clerk Judith T. Terry Absent: Town Attorney Laury L. Dowd SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Would anyone like to move the approval of the audit? . Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Supervisor Wickham, it was RESOLVED that . the following , bills be and hereby ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $54,410.69; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of , $716.35; Community Development Fund bills in the amount of $2,842.32; Highway Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $18,253.86; highway Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $19,099.99; Lighting/Heating. Capital A/C bills in the amount of $595.00; Employee Health Benefit Plan bills in: . the amount of $19,351 .09; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in 'the amount of $3,025.67; Refuse & Garbage District bills in the amount of $22,066.10; Fishers Island Sewer District bills in the amount of" $375.00;Southold: Agency & Trust bills in the amount of $4,871 .83; Fishers Island Ferry District Agency & Trust bills in - the amount of $1,059.61 . Vote. of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, 'Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham.' This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the minutest of the August 22, 1995, town Board meeting be and hereby are approved. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded. by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board will be held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, September 19, • 1995, at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Y4 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 33 3 I . REPORTS. 1 . Southold Town Planning Board Monthly Report for July, 1995. 2. Southold Town"Animal Shelter Monthly Report for July, 1995. 3. Southold Town Building Department Monthly Report for August, 1995. II . PUBLIC NOTICES: None. III . COMMUNICATIONS. None. IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS. None V. RESOLUTIONS. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: We have before us this afternoon an agenda of some thirty-five, or thirty-six, or so ;resolutions. They are all listed here in front of you. The last page of the; agenda notes we have the order of business of today's Work Session. The Work Session began at nine o'clock this morning, and ended about five minutes ago. The different issues, that we were addressing are shown on that 'last page. In the interest of brevity, and to get on with this meeting today, because I see there are quite a number of people here, who may want ,to address the Board. I'm not going totake the time to summarize or comment on our- Work Session, and at any event some of that action is reflected, in resolutions, that we're about to take up this afternoon. We have no public hearings scheduled for today, so the Board will take up the thirty-five, or thirty-six, resolutions before us. At the end of those resolutions any member of the audience, who would like to address the Board on any matter of his, or her, concern is invited to do so. Before we go into today's resolutions, is there anyone here who would like to address the Board on anyi of these resolutions? Yes? KEN LEUDECKER: Ken - Leudecker from Greenport. I'm not sure, but was a resolution, a late resolution submitted about the Strong's Marina, docking about boats, and that area? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Yes. ' KEN LEUDECKER: Then I. would like to address the Board. I just want to remind you that the decision making process, that went into, first the zone change recommendations, you passed-the zone change based on no small part hopefully on the negative SEQRA Review, the Negative Dec., and within that review under reasons for the Negative `Dec. the Trustees corroboration with the Negative Dec was cited, and them being cited I think it assumes that their recommendations would be followed, and I have their recommendations. It says under three, however,.- If marine ,and boat use structures are placed in the water • adjacent to the :new zoning proposal, then it would be a substantial expansion of the : marina, and would warrant an Environmental Impact Statement. It seems to me at this point, and proposing to put marine and boat use structure, namely docks, or boats, in that area now that's adjacent to the rezoned. property • you are undermining a major factor, or argument that was used in issuing the Negative Dec, unless actually undermining the whole decision making process by which the land was rezoned. I think at the very best it would indicate that the Town Board is acting at cross purposes with the Trustees, and consider putting boat use structures in that area of the water. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I don't think that the action before us today changes in any way, what we adopted last time in regard to that basin. Am I right? In other words, the decisions that's before us today does not relate to that basin, and the docks there. KEN LEUDECKER: Oh, it doesn't? This is just the berm you're addressing? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: The width and the extent of that berm off to the south. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I want to 'elaborate a little bit. I think that maybe there was an opinion, I think even among the Town Board, that there was going to be only existing use in that little. .it's north of the tie line, it's south of the tie line. There's a little inlet back there. That we approved, you know, no usage north of the tie line, but the tie line happens to correspond with the mouth! of that inlet. So, south of the tie line there are. .he told us today that he's planning to put boats or something there. 334 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 KEN LEUDECKER: I would still run counter to the Trustee's recommendations. I mean, that's still water adjacent to the rezoned land. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: - , May I have a minute with the Board? The issue really is that has been a storage area. It's now proposed for regular boats. Mr. . Leudecker suggestion is, that this may change the Negative Declaration, and the appropriateness of a Negative Declaration, if we know that, that is going to happen. In view of that, is there any interest to review this over a two week period, before we enact it. JUSTICE EVANS: That part is already enacted, so it's not going to change. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: It has nothing to do with the decision that is before us today. The decision before .us today is to modify the extent and width of the easement; the buffer next to the channel there. KEN LEUDECKER: So, none of the covenants and restrictions are pertaining to this. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There is no change in any of that. KEN LEUDECKER: I'd- like to give you a copy of the Trustee's letter. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Would anyone else like to address the Board on any one of the resolutions before us tonight? PETER HARRIS: My name is Peter Harris, 212 Knapp Place, Creenport. Concerning Resolution 424; authorizing the Supervisor to execute an agreement between the. County ,Department of Public Works, and the Town of Southold for the installation of traffic ';control device on Route 48, Middle Road, Horton's Lane. My question is to what conclusion did the Town and the County of. Suffolk come to' the conclusion that Horton's Lane would be an appropriate site for a traffic ,light. I can give you three right off the top of my head, Peconic Lane, Cox Lane, and Depot Lane. A tremendous amount of accidents, two members of my family over the past three years, have been involved in accidents .on County 48, one someone failed to yield the right-of-way at Depot. My father was involved by the Southold Town Landfill. Someone failed to yield ' the right-of-way. I think if the Town could coordinate with the County of Suffolk, I think traffic lights, especially between Depot and Cox, would alleviate a tremendous amount of danger, that people are trying to egress into the Landfill from the eastbound side, and people trying to exit the Landfill to get a break in traffic. SUPERVISOR. WICKHAM: That's' a very good point, and as a matter of fact, that point. was raised at the last Town: Board meeting, and as a result of that, we are calling on Suffolk-. Coun:ty ,to, please, do a traffic survey of traffic in that region between Cox's Lane and Depot Lane, and in particular around the dump and the Baptist Church, to consider ways to alleviate the traffic hazard there. PETE HARRIS: Peconic Lane, also, is a very dangerous intersection due to the fact, that you have trees to the west. You have to actually come out into the intersection to see eastbound coming traffic. I, myself, I work for the Department of Transportation of New York, and there's many times I use Peconic Lane to go to the Landfill, and do the trees, and being in a truck, a higher vehicle, you can't see through the trees. You can't even see the westbound traffic coming, let alone having to pull out for eastbound traffic. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There are steps we can do to deal with that. Let me just comment, that we .have asked. :the Board decided just in the five before 5:30 to withdraw . this particular : resolution for tonight, not because we don't want it to happen, but because we don't know the financial costs involved, and we wanted: to get a little more information on it, so this particular resolution on Horton's Lane traffic will not come up tonight. But; it's probably going to be on our agenda very .'shortly. PETER' HARRIS: Believe me, it's long overdue. There are other ones that are long overdue, also. SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 3340 SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: That was the conclusion of the Suffolk County traffic engineers, who studied the problem. Would anyone else like to address the Board this' afternoon on any one of the thirty-some resolutions before us? Yes, sir? DAVID CORWIN : My name, is' David Corwin, and I would like to address Resolution #9, where you're going to hire a Peter Bee- for some legal work. I think it's a waste of money. I don't think you can win this endeavor. I think you're persecuting a man, that hasn't been proven guilty of anything in this situation. I think if 1 you drop this endeavor you'll eliminate the major hurdle in your efforts to increase the police manpower in Southold Town. Also, number ,26, if I could. Nextel is going to rent some space on the tower in Peconic. Could you indicate what they're going to use it for, and what frequency they're operating? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I don't know the frequency, but there's new technology in beepers, and cellular. phones, different from the Cellular One, that is already in use out here. It's a technology that would result in far cheaper phone calls using cellular technology. It's just a different technology, but related. ' This* Nextel uses that new generation technology, that would result in major cost savings' to people who used it. That was the technology that was ' mostly used in coordinating among the different fire departments fighting the Westhampton blaze. They are proposing to put up aerial on the tower there. Would anyone else like address the Town Board on any resolutions in front of us? • (No response.) If not, I think we're ready to start. I .-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the 'Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes -the Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the following items for 1996: Milk for the Nutrition Center. Food for the Nutrition Center Police Department Uniform Clothing Cleaning Uniforms of the Members .of the Police Department Gasoline for Town Vehicles Heating Fuel Oil for Town Buildings Diesel Fuel for Highway Department and Disposal Area Removal and Disposal of Household Hazardous Waste from Collection Center Removal of Scrap Tires from Disposal Area Removal of Scrap Metal from Disposal Area Town Yellow Garbage Bags 1 — Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED., . 2•- Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board . of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of Susan M. Ravenhall as a School Crossing Guard, effective August 24, 1995. ' 2•- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 3•- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of. the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Whole Town '1995 'Budget to transfer code supplement appropriation in the Town Clerk's 1995 budget to the Town Board's 1995 budget, which is near exhaustion: ' To: A1010.4. 100. 125 Town Board, Supplies E Materials $ 2,300.00 Code Updates & Law Books From: A1410.4. 100. 135 Town Clerk, Supplies & Materials $ 2,300.00 General Code Supplements 3•- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes:. Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend,. Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 336 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 4.-Moved. by 'Supervisor Wickham, seconded; by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Frank Lyburt as a School Crossing Guard for the Mattituck School post at the intersection of Wickham Avenue and Pike Street, AND as a part-time Traffic Control Officer, effective immediately through June, 1996, at which time he will again assume the full-time duties of a Traffic Control Officer. 'I .-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. ; 5.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded; by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the closure of Case's Lane, Cutchogue, on Saturday, October 10, 1995 between tfie Village Green and the; Library (with the road blocks to be placed so as not to block the entire Library parking lot and continue south to the end ,of the Village Green to allow access to all homes from the other end of Case's Lane) between 9:00 A.M. and 4:30 P.M., Saturday, October 7, 1995, as a safety precaution during 'the annual Harvest Festival to be held by the Mattituck Lioness Club on the Village Green, Main Road, Cutchogue, N.Y. , provided they file :with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional insured. 5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly' ADOPTED. G.- Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Part Town 1995 Budget to provided the necessary funds to pay the attorney's fees in the 1991 Kilfoil v. Town of Southold matter: To: B 1420.4.500.200 Legal Counsel. $ 19,054.98 From: B 1420.4.600.100 Zahra Settlement $ 19,054.98 _ 6.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 7.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Miller Environmental Group Inc., Calverton, N.Y. , in the - amount of $8,050.00, for- providing' and; installing a Water Treatment System at the Human Resource Center, all in accordance with the bid specifications. 7•- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. a•- Moved by Councilman Lizewski., seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Thomas Wickham to execute agreements with the following individuals for the 1995 Fall. Recreation Programs, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney: Lisa Baglivi (watercolor) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $25/hour Thomas Boucher (guitar) . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $20/hour Shirley Darling (tennis) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $17/class East End Insurance Services (defensive driving) . . . . . . . $35/person Tom Fox (cartoon drawing) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $24/class Dan Gebbia (dog obedience) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $45/dog Hidden Lake Farms (horseback) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $175/person Impact Consulting (calligraphy) . . ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $18/hour Impact Consulting (makeover program) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $22/hour Kid 'N Round - Theresa Walker (kids playcenter) . . . . . . . $35/child Kid 'N Round - Theresa Walker (parent ' s time-out) . . . . . . $9/child Eleonora Kopek (arts & crafts) . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $17/class Mattituck Lanes (bowling) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $32/person Basil Northam (adventures/walking program) . . . . . . . . . . . . $17/hour Scott Hilary (outdoor education) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $25/hour SEPTEMBER 5, 1995337 Lauren Pressler ( teen nights) . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $16/hour Theresa Pressler (youth program) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $17/hour Martha Prince (step aerobics) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $20/hour Jeanne Ruland (aerobics) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $20/hour Sam Smith (youth basketball) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $ 16/hour Steve Smith (weight training) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $17/hour Steve Smith (men' s basketball/volleyball) . . . . . . . . . . . . . $15/hour JoAnn Terkowski ( folk dancing) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $16/hour Mary Van Deusen (line dancing) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $30/hour Chris Vedder (golf) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $37 . 50/person Dorothy Wolf (bridge) . . . . . . . . .. . . .. ... . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . $25/hour YMCA/Theresa Marmo (parent/toddler program) . . . . . . . . . . . $30/parent 8.-Vote . of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was'-duly ADOPTED. 9•- Moved by .Supervisor .Wickham, seconded ,by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes Peter Bee of the law firm of Bee & Eisman to represents the Town of Southold in 'court proceedings involving the qualifications of persons on the preferred police hiring civil service list. 9-- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Wickham. No: Councilman Lizewski. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 10.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie', seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Public Safety Dispatcher III John Raynor to attend the annual New York State Disaster Preparedness Conference at Albany, N .Y., on September 10-13, 1995, and the .$75.00 registration fee, and necessary expenses for meals, lodging and travel, using a Town vehicle, shall be a legal charge to the 1995 Budget. 10. - Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly' ADOPTED. 11 ._- Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes Data Control Supervisor ' Jeanne Ruland and Data Equipment Operator Mark Cajowski to attend an' Advanced AS/400 Applications seminar at IBM, Jericho, N.Y., on Tuesday, September 12, 1995, from 9: 15 A.M. until 11 :45 A.M. , will mileage reimbursement a legal charge to the 1995 Central Data Processing Budget.:. 11 .- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend; Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor- Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 12.- Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded 'by Supervisor Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby reduces the price for one volume of Liber, D from $40.00 to $20.00, the hard cover Houses of Southold book from $25.00 to $15.00, and the soft cover Houses of Southold book from $15.00 to $7.00, effective August 29, 1995; and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the wholesale ' price for the above mentioned volumes shall be -as follows: Liber D - $10.00; hard cover Houses of Southold - $9.00; soft cover Houses of Southold - $4.00. 12.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 338 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 13.- Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded ;by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following budget modification to the General Fund Whole Town 1995 Budget to cover costs incurred through the Youth Scholarship Program for the 1995 summer season: From: A7310.4.600.300 Miscellaneous Programs $ 193.75 (Youth. Scholarship :Program) To: 'T_7020.4. 100. 100 Recreation Administration $ 193.75 (Office Supplies) 13.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman; Hussie, Councilman Lizewski., Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 14.- Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for School Crossing Guards. 14.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman, Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly .ADOPTED. 15.- Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorize and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for a Records Management Clerk, 17-1/2 hours per week, $6.30 per hour. 15.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 16.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilwoman Olvia, it was RESOLVED•.that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Scott A. Hilary. a member of, the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council to fill the unexpired term ;of Patricia A. Isaksen, effective immediately through June 18, 1996. 16.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, I Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly- ADOPTED. 17.- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Supervisor Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the Town ,Board of, ..the .Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Whole Town 1995 Budget as follows to find the Uniforms and Accessories. line in the. Police budget for the remainder of 1995: To A3120.4.100.60 Police,: Contractual Expenses $ 9,000.00 Uniforms & Accessories From: A9901 .9. 100.00 Interfund Transfers $ 9,000.00 Transfers to Health Plan 17.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, , Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 339 18.- Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, WHEREAS, production of a new topographic map of the landfill property in Cutchogue is required in order for Closure Investigation work to proceed in accordance with the Towns` ' stipulated agreement with the DEC; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorizes the firms of Aerographics, Geomaps, and Van Tuyl, PC, to perform the work necessary to produce a topographic map of the Cutchogue Landfill at a total cost not to exceed $8,500.00. 18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes:, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly adopted. 19.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following modification of the Solid Waste Management District 1995 Budget to provide funds for a new topographic map of the landfill property in Cutchogue as' required for Closure Investigation work: To: SR8160.4.400.100 Engineering $ 8,500.00 From: SR8160.4.400.805 MSW Removal $ 8,500.00 19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Number 20, .appointing a part-time Gate Attendant, is being withdrawn from our agenda for today. We'll proceed to 21 . 21 .-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Whole Town 1995 Budget to provide sufficient appropriations for the payment of accumulated leave time for two recently retired employees under the terms of the CSEA collective bargaining agreement: To: A1310. 1 .100.300 Accounting & Finance, Personal Services $ 4,830.00 Full Time Employees, Vacation Earnings A1310. 1 .100.400 Accounting E Finance, Personal Services 3,764.00 Full Time Employees, Sick Earnings A3120. 1 . 100.300 Police, Personal Services 4,187.00 Full Time Employees, Vacation Earnings A3120. 1 .100.400 Police, Personal Services 6,353.00 Full Time, Employees; Sick Earnings From: A99019.000.000 I nterfund Transfers $ 19, 134.00 Transfers to Health Plan 21 .-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. I This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 22.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to readvertise for resumes for an EISEP Aide (Expanded In-Home Services for the Elderly Program), up to 17-1/2 hours per week, at a salary of $6.00 per hour. 21.-Vote of -the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. y 340 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 23.- Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Capital Highway Materials, Inc., in the amount of $38, 147.50, for fabricating and furnishing .all parts and materials required for the complete assembly of an aluminum structural plate box culvert for the replacement of the Brushes Creek Bridge, Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel, all in accordance with the bid specifications. 23.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice' Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Number 24 is, also, being withdrawn until we get additional . cost information of it. (Executing an agreement between the County of Suffolk, Department of Public Works, and the Town of Southold . for the installation of traffic control devices.) 25;.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of • the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the purchase of 500 tons of Bulk 'Ice Control Rack Salt for the Superintendent of Highways. 25.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice . Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 26•-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded' by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the -Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor, Thomas Wickham to execute a lease agreement between the Town of Southold and Smart SMR of New York, Inc. , d/b/a Nextel Communications, for the lease of space on the Town's communications tower in Peconic, said lease all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. 26•-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 27.-Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded; by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the Highway Fund Whole Town '1995 Budget as follows: To: DA.5140.1 .100.100 Brush E :Weeds, ' Full Time Employees $ 7,500.00 Regular Earnings From: DA.5120. 1 . 100.100 Bridges, Full Time Employees $ 7,500.00 Regular Earnings DA.5142.1 . 100.100 Snow Removal, Full Time Employees 4,500.00 Regular earnings 27.7Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 28.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town. Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Cen-Co Organization, Inc. , West Babylon, N.Y. , in the amount of $10,111 .50, to perform the following work on the' H.V.A.C. system located in the east end of the Southold Town ' Hall, all in accordance with the bid specifications: 1 . Install a new chiller, heat exchanger to retrofit the existing heat exchanger chiller system, at a total cost of $5,724.00 2. Removal of all fiberglass' and plaster insulation on hydronic heating, ventilation, and air conditioning pipes locate din the rooms in the east end basement area of the Town Hall, at a total cost of $4,387.50. 28.- Vote of the Town Board: .Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 341 29.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, WHEREAS, there was presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, a Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Members of the Architectural Review Committee"; now,. therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Clerk' be 'and she ' hereby is authorized and directed to transmit this proposed Local Law to the Southold Town Planning Board and the Suffolk' County Department of Planning, all in accordance with the Southold Town Code and the Suffolk County Charter. This Local Law reads as follows: A Local Law in Relation to Members of the Architectural Review Committee BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows: I . Chapter 110 (Zoning) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows:... 1 . Section 100-256A is hereby amended by adding the following: A. The Architectural Review Committee shall consist of five members appointed by the Town Board to serve at the pleasure of the Board without compensation. If possible, the members of the Committee shall be appointed from the following categories: two members shall be architects or' landscape architects, one members shall be from the Landmark Preservation Commission, and two members shall be appointed from resident of each of the hamlets of the town. The hamlet members shall vary and shall sit only on the site plans which 'are proposed in the hamlet. The hamlet members shall sit only on the site plans which are proposed in their areas. The hamlet members shall be from the following areas: two from Fishers Island, two from Orient/East Marion/Greenport, two from. Southold/Peconic, two from New Suffolk/Cutchogue'r two from Mattituck/Laurel. II . This Local Law shall take effect,upon filing with the Secretary of State. 29.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Numbers 30 and 31 are both being withdrawn until we can do a little more research on .them. 32 .—Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that the Town ' Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs 'the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for a part-time Clerk Typist for the Justice Court, 17-1/2 hours per week, $6.82 per hour. 32.-Vote of the Town Board: 1 Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED., 33.-Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was .RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following individuals as members of the Southold Town Tree Committee, for a two (2) year term, effective September 22, 1995 through September 22, 1997: Edward D. Dart,' Chairman David A. Blados Daniel Gladstone Noreen Schroeder Ural Talgat Keith W. Whitsit Donald Wilcenski Raymond L. Jacobs, Supt. of Highways - ex officio member Antonia S. Booth, Historian - ex officio member 33.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. r , 342 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 311.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Supervisor Wickham, WHEREAS, there was presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, on the 5th day of Sep-tember, 1995, a Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Flea Markets"; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized and directed to transmit this proposed Local Law to the Southold Town Planning Board and the Suffolk County Department of Planning, all in accordance with the Southold Town Code and the Suffolk County Charter. This Local Law reads as follows: A Local Law in' Relation to Flea Markets BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows: 1 . Chapter 100 (Zoning) of the Code of iTown of Southold is hereby amended as follows: 1 . Section 100-13B' is hereby amended by adding the following definition: FLEA MARKET -An out-of-doors market operated only during daylight hours where new or used. items are sold from individual locations, with each location being operated independently from the other_ locations, items sold include but are not limited to household items, antiques,, rare items, decorations, used books and used magazines. This shall- not include sales by a nonprofit organization on �an occasional basis. 2. Section 91B(10) is hereby amended by adding the following: (10) Flea Markets. 3. Section 100-101B(17) is hereby amended by adding the following (17)Flea Markets. , * Underline represents additions. II . This Local law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State. .311.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman ' Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham'. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 35.- Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, It was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends resolution no. 16, adopted on August .22, 1995, granting a change of zone to Strong's Marine, Inc. , by changing subparagraph b. to read as follows: b. That. there shall be a 50-foot scenic easement as shown on the Survey for Zoning change as submitted by Peconic Surveyors, PC, under date of March 1, 1995'. The resolution granting the Strong's Marine, Inc. change of zone petition reads as follows: WHEREAS, Strong's Marine, Inc., by petition filed April 12, 1995, applied to the Town Board of the Town of Southold for a change of zone on certain property located at the end of a right-of-way off Camp Mineola Road, and adjacent to James Creek, Mattituck, New York; (SCTM #1000-122-4-44,2), from Low Density Residential (R-80) District to-Marine (M-1) District; and WHEREAS, said petition was referred to the Southold Town Planning Board and the-Suffolk County Department of Planning for official recommendations and reports; and WHEREAS, the Trustees and Planning Board have recommended the proposed rezoning and will be reviewing any development of the property pursuant to site plan and wetland regulations: and WHEREAS, the subject property is adjacent:to.an existing marina and the Comprehensive Plan calls for efficient use of the limited areas available for marina uses; and WHEREAS, the subject property, together with the existing marina, is located on a peninsula and are geographically separated from surrounding residential uses, which separation will be preserved by the following conditions: WHEREAS, a Negative Declaration was issued on June 22, 1995 which found that the proposed rezoning would not'have a significant effect on the environment: and SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 343 WHEREAS, the Town Board, pursuant to due notice, held a public hearing thereon on the 25th day of July, 1995,,at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the proposed rezoning is found to be consistent with the Town's Comprehensive,Plan; and be it further RESOLVED that Strong's Marine, Inc. be and hereby is granted a change of zone from Low Density Residential (R-80) District to Marine (M-1) District on the following described property: Beginning at the northeasterly corner of the parcel about to be described, which corner is located the following six (6) courses and distances from a point on the easterly side of Olejulane, which point is 154.97 feet southerly from the point on the easterly side of Olejulane, which point is 154.97 feet southerly from the,point on the easterly,side of Olejulane, which 'point is 154.97 feet southerly from the intersection of the southerly side of Kraus Road and the easterly side of Olejulane: (1) South 80 degrees 39 minutes 10 seconds East, 423.36 feet; (2) South 11 degrees 22 minutes 50 seconds West, 174.33 feet; (3) South 22 degrees 13 minutes 00 seconds West, 293.00 feet; (4) South 57 degrees 21 minutes 20 seconds West, 100.99 feet; (5) South 44 degrees 10 minutes 10 seconds West, 160.97 feet; (6) South 35 degrees 19 minutes 00 seconds West, 95.30 feet;,running thence from the true point or, place of beginning, South 35 degrees 19 minutes 00 seconds West, 302.73 feet; thence South 18 degrees 48 minutes 20 seconds East, 106.14 feet; thence South 71 degrees 11 minutes 40 seconds West, 380 feet, more or less, to the ordinary high water mark of James Creek; thence along the ordinary high water mark of James Creek, and a dredged canal, a distance of 850 feet to a point and lands now or formerly of E. E. Wilsberg; thence South 30 degrees 29 minutes 40 seconds East, 85 feet, more or less, to the point of beginning; all to be condi- tioned upon the execution and recording of C&Rs by the property owner in a form acceptable to the Town Attorney and which make the following covenants: a. That no boat rack be located within 100 feet of the northerly tie line (along the dredged canal) of the parcel; and b. That there shall be a 50-foot scenic easement as shown on the Survey for Zoning change as submitted by Peconic Surveyors, PC, under date of March 1, 1995; and c. That there shall be no dockage north of the northerly tie line of the property (along the dredged canal);;and d. There shall be no structure or rack at the two M-1 zoned parcels owned by Strong's Marine, Inc. which would exceed 28 feet in height, and no boat placed on this rack may exceed 28 feet in height. 35.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor. Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I have one additional resolution this afternoon dealing with a commemoration for the many organizations, that helped in controlling the Westhampton blaze some ten, twelve days ago. We have a couple of additional organizations, that were represented this morning, that were added to this list. 36.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, WHEREAS in recognition of ` the dedication of the firefighters of the Volunteer Fire Department of Orient, East Marion, Creenport, Southold, Cutchogue and Mattituck in fighting the Westhampton Brush Fires; and WHEREAS these men and women risked their own lives to protect the lives and homes of others; and WHEREAS these firefighters fought tirelessly for a period of more than 36 hours; and 3 4 4 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 WHEREAS joining the efforts cif -the Volunteer Fire Departments. the Peconic Amateur Radio Club, the Southold Town Unit of ARES, (Amateur Radio Emergency Services) provided emergency communications and support services at the Westhampton Brush Fires; and WHEREAS such services , consisted of providing communications at emergency evacuation centers; and, assisting the . Red Cross in the operation of said centers; and WHEREAS in support of all those who volunteered, there were also the residents. of the Town such as Julie Kibler, . who gave her time in organizing a food drive and getting said food to the firefighters in Westhampton; and WHEREAS in recognition of the people and businesses in the Town of Southold who, in turn, donated the food sent to Westhampton; therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby recognizes the dedication of and the work performed by the volunteer firefighters of the 'Town Fire Departments, members of Peconic Amateur Radio Club, Southold Town ARES, residents who gave their food, time and donations to the cause; and therefore, be it further RESOLVED that the Town. Board offers their sincere thanks and appreciation to all for a job well done. 36.-Vote of � the Town • Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend,, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: We have one more resolution, that reached Judy's desk this afternoon while we were in session. I,t's one more technical budget modification. 37.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the ". Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following 1995 Budget modification to the General Fund Whole Town to appropriated donated funds for various D.A.R.E. items: To: Revenues: A2705.60 Gifts E Donation, D:A.R.E. Donations $ 100.00 Appropriations: A3157.4.600.200 Juvenile Aide Bureau, Contractual Exp. $ 100.00 D.A.R.E. Training 37.-Vote of the Town Board: ,-Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM:' That completes the resolutions before us today. Now, we have the opportunity to listen to you, to hear views of people of the town on any matter, that is on your mind, that you'd like to acquaint the Board with your views. Please' keep your comments within five minutes, because there are a number of people -out here, and I'm sure that lots of you would like to address - the Board, and we all have other things that we're going to have to do, in particular, Louisa has to reach a plane at 7:00 . to get back to where she came from this morning. With that brief introduction, we'd be pleased to hear from people in the audience. I see a gentleman with his hand up. DAVID CORWIN: My name is David Corwin. This letter is dated September 3rd, Southold Town Board. .Ladies and Gentlemen, as I am sure you are well aware there has been a wave of crime in the Village of Creenport. The questions' of parking and noise control can be argued. Robbery, burglary, thief and vandalism. cannot be argued. People are afraid to leave their houses at night. the Town Board simply must provide more of a police presence in the Village of Creenport. Police Chief Droskoski recommended making Creenport a separate sector with eight. police officers . and a detective. The Town Board has hired one additional police officer and has apparently eliminated .the occasional fifth sector that was located in Mattituck. Police Committee member Joe :Cold has indicated that the Southold Town Police Department is not in' need ! of a large increase in manpower. If the Town Board is not going to hire additional police officers, the existing sectors should be reorganized to make the Village of Creenport one sector as the Police Chief originally recommended. I have a postscript to this letter. SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 3 4 o I certainly don't want to take anything you said out of context, Supervisor Wickham, so you will correct me if' I'm wrong. The Supervisor stated at a meeting with the Creenport Village Board on September 5th that Creenport would get the same level of police presence as the rest of Southold Town. The problem with this statement is that the demographics and the social problems in Creenport require a level of police presence that is larger then the rest of Southold Town. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'm not clear as to exactly what I said. What meant was that we would provide the full level of protection equal to everybody in the town, irrespective of where they come from. Maybe it would be better to hear a lot of the comments first, before we respond to it, because 1 think there are .a lot of people out there, who, I think, have this issue on their minds. ' It would be good to get all the views out here first, before we respond. Yes, sir, gentleman in the red shirt? EUGENE MURRAY:. Good evening. I'm Eugene Murray, the Mayor of the Village of Rockville Centre. I, also, have a condominium in Sterling Cove, and Supervisor Wickham, I understand your problems with the police. We have a shortage of police in Rockville Centre right now, because we don't have list. We're waiting for it to be released by Judge Meisler at anytime. I'm also not here to criticize ; the the Police Department. I understand their problems. When we do call the Police, they respond immediately. There is a shortage, and we know that: When they do respond, and take the reports. What has to be done is also a ;follow-up. You try and find out who is ' committing these crimes to get them off the street. It is a small village. It is a small group .doing this. You know. it's more than one person, and it's gotten out of hand as far as the muggings now. We've had a mugging in our area the other night again, coming from our condo group, one of the. residents, driver of the bread truck, and another man from Creenport. Something really has to done. I was very impressed by listening to your Work Session, about the Police' Department before, and how you are following through. I'm very happy with that. I know it's a very serious problem, and again, if we could get ;the people off the streets, who are creating these problems, I think that';would also calm the residents down, and also help them with police presence. I was very impressed with your order of business here, that you started at nine in the morning, and at 4-:30 go right into another meeting. That's a lot of work. Thanks very much. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank for being with us. Would anyone else like to address the Board, and since we're on 'the topic of Creenport, there may be other issues that other people want to bring to us, but why don't we focus the discussion on police protection in Creenport, and everyone who wants to address that question, now is ,the time. Yes, Isir7 We have the Mayor of Creenport. DAVID KAPELL: Supervisor," members, of the Town Board, I beg your indulgence. I may run slightly over five minutes, but I'll try and keep it to a minimum. This is a.n ,important topic, and I want to offer my views comprehensively, but concisely. My mother always taught me as a kid, that big problems grow out of small problems, and it was in that spirit, that I came before this Board a month ago, and expressed my concern over the apparent default, ' or refusal, on the part of the Town to enforce certain Village Ordinances with , respect to parking regulations, noise complaints, and other relatively minor issues, which had cropped up within the Village. It was my view at the time, that inaction on these fronts would send a message to the community at large, that only partial attention was being paid to the Village of Creenport. I'm sad and duty-bound, frankly, at this point to come before the Board this evening, to report that my fears have been confirmed, that in the ensuing weeks we have been struck in Creenport by what can only be described as a crime spree, which has rendered the Village into a I state of fear, and has threatened the very peaceful enjoyment, that the rest of us are entitled to, not only in Creenport, but throughout the Town of Southold. To illustrate that, I want to read briefly some excepts from the Police report as published in the Mattituck Traveler-Watchman for the Aast few weeks. I'm going to start out with a report, that doesn't 'relate to the Village, but I think it sets the context perhaps for the Town, as , including the Village. This is from the August 3, 1995 addition of the Traveler-Watchman. A Mattituck man was arrested Tuesday morning for allegedly firing a twelve gauge shotgun twice at a car occupied by four youths. The incident allegedly happened Monday 34 6 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 r night. Douglas A Cooper, 47, of Bergen Avenue, was charged with first degree reckless endangerment. No one: was reported injured, but the car had damaged tires, and tail-lights. From the August 10, 1995, addition, a Creenport teenager was arrested Saturday night for allegedly destroying the inside .of a house on Sixth Street in Creenport. Again, on August 10th a Greenport man reported Monday morning that someone entered his Queen Street business, and removed $782..00 -in cash and coins from a cash box. On ,August 17th a Creenport man was arrested Saturday night for allegedly robbing a person of a gold cross and ;chain on First Street in Creenport. Earlier in the evening James Lawrence, Jr., eighteen, of Center Street was charged with third degree robbery. On August 24th, a Creenport man reported Sunday that , someone entered his Route 25 home, and removed $70.00 in cash, a leather jacket, and , a purse, and a small container of loose, change. Also, on August 24th, a Creenport woman reported Tuesday, that while walking alone along Adams Street in Creenport a robber with a white towel around his head, demanded her money, two gold bracelets, and a wristwatch. Also, on August 24th, a Creenporter reported Sunday that someone broke the south side window of his Third Street restaurant with a candle holder.. On August 31st, a Creenport man reported Tuesday morning that while he was walking on Wiggins Street in Creenport a man threatened him with a ;pocket knife, and forceable removed his wallet from him. During the scuffle' the victim claimed to have removed the ski mask, that the robber was wearing. Police recovered the mask and placed it with other evidence. On the. same day, another Creenport man reported Tuesday morning. that .while he; was at a Route 25 convenience store in 'Creenport a man forcibly removed a 'gold chain from his neck. According to police a man has been questioned on the incident, but no arrests have been made. The value ..of the chain was not available. On the same day, a Creenport woman reported Saturday night, that while she was walking along Bay Avenue, a man came,from behind her, and removed her pocketbook from her shoulder. The items in the pocketbook were valued at $50.00. On the same day., a Bayshore man reported Thursday morning that while he was delivering bread to a South Street grocery store in Creenport, two men threatened him with a kitchen knife, and demanded money. The victim was able to escape, and call the police. Upon his return he found the two suspects had removed a stereo, and money from his vehicle. On the same day, Friday morning a Creenport man reported that someone entered his Route 25 restaurant and removed $56.00 from the bar area. Again on the same date, Southold Police reported . that they are investigating several petty larceny incidents; that have occurred in Creenport involving several vehicles break-ins. Police believe that the crimes are linked. Supervisor, on Friday of last week I contacted ,you by phone, and expressed my alarm at what had transpired up to that point. Based on our conversation in which you indicated to me, that the Town ,Police leadership had stated to you, that due to this manpower problem; that they did not- feel that they had the resources necessary to adequately protect the Village. Based on that we agreed that I would send you ..a fax of a letter requesting that additional patrols be assigned to the Village. I'm going to read that letter into the record. This letter is dated September 1, 1995. It was faxed that date to Supervisor Wickham, to the Chief ' of Police 'Droskoski, and to two of the .local newspapers. To the Honorable Thomas Wickham, Town of Southold, Main Road, Southold. Dear Supervisor Wickham. Given the reason for a rash of unsolved burglaries and robberies', that have taken place in the Village of Creenport, compounded by the approaching Labor Day weekend, and it's increase ' in traffic, this will serve : as a request for the immediate assignment of additional Police and Traffic Control patrols for the Village. There is a rising sense of alarm in Creenport, that Police protection is inadequate to guarantee , public health, safety, and 'welfare, and an appropriate response is needed on your: part, and that of the Town Police. If the Southold Town Police are not able to guarantee public safety in the Village of Creenport, well, for that matter anywhere in the Town of Southold, I ask that you request assistance from New York State Police until such time as the situation has been rectified. This is a matter of utmost importance to the Village, and the Town, and. I ask for .your immediate attention. Please advise at .your earliest opportunity as to what steps will be taken. Mr. Supervisor, you and I met later again on that date. You, in fact, conveyed this letter to'the State Police, and communicated with them, and received some assurance from them that they would create a presence in Creenport. Due to vacations, and kids going away to college, and other kind of typical life circumstances; that the Southold Town Police would not be a position to significantly increase their, presence in the village over the SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 347 9 ' I weekend. He did, however, . indicate that he though he would be able to provide a traffic control officer (tape change) My alarm developed last week, as a result with being approached repeatedly by the very people, that were victimized by these events, that, have been. reported in the paper. Over the weekend, unfortunately, that trend continued. I did not see a Traffic Control Officer assigned to . the Village at all over the weekend, although I do understand that there were some State Police patrols at nighttime hours. I personally did not notice any significant increase in the presence of the Southold Town Police in the Village. On Sunday morning I became aware that another. series of.. incidents had transpired on Saturday night, namely two women were robbed, mugged is the proper word, in the backyard of their residential property on quiet Bay Avenue. Apparently, by the same individual, or an individual matching the description of an assailants, who five minutes' ' earlier had robbed somebody at the teller machine of the North ° Fork Bank. In addition, I'm informed that at least one store, if not more, were burglarized on that same evening, one of them notoriously. I understand; one store was entered, cash register was removed, and the assailant took the, cash register and pounded it up' and down on Main Street, trying to get it. open, to get the money out. In addition to that I was contacted last, week by the fellow who lives on Second Street, who had his house burglarized, he informed me after returning to Creenport after a day out of town, that every drawer, every cabinet, every conceivable place where something could be hidden had been emptied, opened up. His entire house had been ransacked. The impression he had, and what he gave me, was that whoever this was, that was in his house, felt at liberty to stay there for a long period of time, to do a thorough job. In addition to that, I'm informed that a number of my neighbors down in the Fifth and Sixth Street areas, have had their cars broken into. One of those neighbors approached me at 11 :25 this ;morning, just before I came over to meet with you, Mr. Supervisor, emergency meeting. Her car had been broken into. This . is a woman,, who has had her house broken into a couple of times, and lives across the street from the gentleman, who'd had his house ruined, destroyed. I think that was one of the first articles I read. We have a state of emergency in the 'village. This can't go on. We don't need to live like this on the east end of Long Island. I'd like to read a letter, that I received from a, woman, who was mugged along with her friend on Bay Avenue on Saturday night. Dear Mayor Kapell. As I told you -on the telephone, I was very upset by the incident which occurred on Saturday night, September 2nd. To reiterate, I was coming home from visiting friends on the South Fork. I arrived in Creenport on the 11 : 15 P.M. ferry from Shelter Island, and turned down Bay Avenue, where I've been renting Hope Hendler's house for the summer. Just outside the Cinnamon Tree my progress was impeded by a group of men, who were standing in the middle of the street, not moving, and :staring at me in my car in a way that was odd, and disturbing. After a few minutes they moved off, and drove to the end of the block, turned , around, and, parked the car. It took me awhile to gather up my various parcels,: jackets, etc. My friend Tracy Young went into the yard ahead of me to open. the side door, where we always enter the house. It was very dark. While she was fumbling with the house key I started into the yard, only to be stunned, when a man rushed up behind me, shoved me violently, and ran off with my jacket, and fanny pack. I yelled for my friend to turn on the lights, and call the police. I shouted after my assailant, as he raced through the yard, and crashed over the fence. The police arrived on -the scene almost immediately, if only because they were already in the neighbor investigating an identical purse snatching, which had taken place just five minutes earlier at the North Fork Bank on the corner. Shortly thereafter a neighbor showed up from Central Avenue, and said, he had heard the commotion, and that there was a bag, and jacket, in his yard. Soon more officers arrived, and found the other woman's bag in the back of our yard, and some of the things across the street in the neighbors yard. In this case only the case was not recovered. I lost about $150.00. Fortunately, no one was hurt, but if I had been an elderly person, like some of my neighbors, I could have been badly hurt. Fortunately, my I .D. was recovered so I wasn't hideously .inconvenienced, but I was shaken, and disturbed. 'I have never been mugged in New York City, where I have lived for many years. I have never been mugged in Sag Harbor, where I rented for many years. Nor did I ever expect such a thing to happen on this dinky little block in Creenport. But, in talking with my neighbors, I understand that the lack of police has been a factor in the growing number of criminal activities this summer, and what really disturbed me, as I talked with the local people, was the sense of frustration, that no 48 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 one was taking the problem seriously, and that any attempts to remedy the situation were basically...ignored in the interest of saving a few bucks. I've also overheard a few of my neighbors, say that if push came to shove, they would take out the baseball bats, and do their own police work, which is a completely understandable response, if not a productive one in the long run. Another letter I received this morning,, which is actually addressed to the Supervisor, but I was provided a copy: It reads as follows, it's addressed to Supervisor Wickham, Southold, New: York. Dear Sir, I am a resident, taxpayer of Creenport Village, and ! Southold Town. The vandalism, robberies, and assailants on law abiding citizens is appalling. Police protection has dropped within the last few weeks, unlike the high visibility after the abolishment of the ' local Police Department. Why? If there is a dispute between the PBA Village and Town, a lot of the good citizens of Creenport are caught in the middle. This should not be. Our taxes pay their salary and benefits. Personally there have been incidents at my home by a group of youths, who roam the, street after dark, urinate on my property, and front steps. I've got to back up, a group of black youths. When my cat is out at. night, she, is stoned. They try to catch her to torment, and physically abuse her. The same night they also threw stones at the windows of my 97 year old neighbor. They call- you vile, dirty names, but heaven forbid, if you say a word to them, you are a racist. It is not only the blacks. There are white youths, who are-troublesome. Why are the good people always the victims, and the criminals pampered? Why must we purchase sophisticated security systems, and become imprisoned in our homes, and the criminals go free to do .what ever he chooses, knowing that the' justice system will free them? The Police appear to do nothing, or have their hands tied by weak supervisors. Those in authority should stand up, and show strength, not fear. Once we ;show fear, we are the victims. The Constitution of the United States says, that we are guaranteed life, liberty, and the pursuit of, happiness. ;It, also, guarantees us the right to bear arms against. all foe, . foreign and domestic. The aforementioned only appears to be for the murderer, rapist,, robber. and the rabble rouser, not the good law abiding citizen, who works hard to support his family, and community. Sincerely yours, Catherine E. Tasker, First Street, Creenport, also known, as Mrs. Henry 1 Tasker. You may recall that Henry Tasker was a highly respected jurist An the Town of Southold, and the County of Suffolk, and the- State of New York. We're here with our hat -in our hands. We don't have a Police Force anymore. You are our protection. We have an emergency in Creenport. No other word would adequately describe the circumstance that present ,themselves in' our village. We've got to have help, and we have to have it ;tonight. We can't wait for the Civil Service process to be completed. We can't wait for Budget decisions to be made. Mr. Supervisor, I called you on Sunday, after I learned of these latest incidents in spite of- the . -efforts that we together made on Friday, and I told you, that I felt fear for the safety, the personal and physical safety of my citizens, and you told ..me, that you didn't see it that way. That's what I said, that there is a danger to life and limb, Tom. You said, don't see it that way. I., think it, will keep till Tuesday, when I can have a chance to talk to Mr. .Droskoski. Now; I'm here tonight. I was approached again this morning by another woman, who had her car broken into. God .forbid I should go another night, and have to meet up with somebody tomorrow, who may have had worse yet experience. We've got to have action tonight. A uniformed presence in the Village of Creenport in marked vehicles is the only thing, that is going to adequately deter, in the short term, this type of activity. I know from the explanation you gave us at our emergency meeting this morning, that the Police are conducting undercover activities. I'm sure that in good faith they're attempting to investigate the three dozen or so outstanding incidents that are before them. That's not going to resolve itself overnight. In the meantime you have people. . 1 mean,there are other incidents that haven't even been reported in the paper. We had a Front Street merchant, who was stoned in front of his store. We had another First Street resident, who was stoned on his residential property. We' have a North ;Street resident, who was confronted by a gang of youths, who overturned a lawn ornament on his, property, and when he confronted them they started threatening him. He called the Police. The Police responded, and .did nothing. I mean . somebody is going to get hurt. Do we wait until that happens :to act? 1 mean, I just don't think that's right. I think that the time has come for Mr. Supervisor .to exercise your authority, and order what's necessary, which is the presence of at least, at a minimum, two marked Southold Town Patrol Cars in the Village of Creenport at all times, twenty-four ,hours a day, until we can all look at SEPTEMBER 5, .1,995 34 '9 each other in the face, and say we feel safe to walk the streets again. mean, I've been in Creenport sixteen years. I'm a New Yorker. I grew up in a transitional neighborhood in Manhattan;, and I'm street wise, and my wife is, too. We started locking our cars. We've started locking our house, which we've never done since we moved to the village. This is a bad situation. You've got the ball, sir. - You've got' to run with it now. We need a commitment tonight. We need a commitment tonight in the form of Board action, because there's been a split on this Board. Let's face it. When came to you last month, I heard arguments on both sides. We, as Village residents, need to know that 1you and this Town Board are solidly behind the guarantee of public safety that we're entitled to in the Village of Creenport, as residents, full-fledged residents, of the Town of Southold, so I'm asking for a Board action tonight 'to resolve this question, and instruct the Police. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'm sure this: Board supports exactly what you described, the security of the people in Creenport, and the full protection that every other person in this town deserves and should get, and we'll take every step we can. Since . our meeting this morning I have spoken to the Chief, and we will have two patrol people there through tonight. We can perhaps continue it for some period of! time. The split on the Board has tended to be on questions of hiring. I don't think there's any split on the Board about the importance of providing proper police protection down there. DAVID KAPELL: Now, - Mr. Supervisor, I beg to differ with you. As started out my comments this Board manifested itself on the question of something so trivial as writing parking tickets, when you've got Traffic Control Officers all ready on the street.: Don't you realize that the message that, that sends to the outside world, coupled with this constant talk about under staffing is that it's , open season in Creenport? That's exactly what's happened. I mean .what more do you need to hear? Do we need to wheel somebody in here with a bandage around them, or worse, to convince you that you've got a problem, that we, together, have a problem? What do you need? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I think we need to hear the views of other people, and let us get the full flavor. . "DAVID KAPELL: But, again, I just • want to state that what I'm here asking for tonight, I'm going to let the other people speak their minds, but what I'm here asking for tonight is a vote of this Board to show the people of our village, that you're committed to maintaining that presence in the village until such time as we can sit down again, or you can report to us, that these guys are under arrest, that the system is working, and 'that order has 'been restored in our village. Other than that, sir, I beg to say that you are shirking your responsibility. I challenge you to put it to a vote of your Board. Get them behind' you: You need them. Thank you. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Would anyone else like to address the Board? PARRY ,LATNEY: My name is Barry .Latney. I live in the incorporated Village of Creenport. I'm like Mayor Kapell, I have not prepared . a text, but I, too, am appalled by the increasing crime in Creenport. My neighborhood, Linnet Street, the Police Officer used to come through once a week. Now, they come through, maybe, biweekly. Just last week we had a rash of burglaries in out neighborhood. You know why? Because the criminals don't even care. They know that no Police Officer is going to come down there, so they just go right through the whole community, and take what ever they want. You know wNy they're taking what they want? Because they are drug addicts, and criminals, and they don't care, and until we get the Police Department there to take' them off the streets, put them where they belong, they're going to continue to do it. Make no mistake about it, these criminals are not only blacks. They're whites. They're Puerto Rican. They're everything, and everybody, and until the Police Department comes down, and shows their presence they're going to stay there. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM:. Thahk you. 3 5 0 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 CHRISTINE HASCOAT: Supervisor Wickham, Town Board members, I'm Christine Hascoat. I have a business ;in Southold, and my son, who is fourteen started a business in: Creenport this year with another fourteen year old, and I'm very proud 'of him. His store was one of the stores, that were burglarized. It was broken into inside Victorian Village, and what happened in this case was a rock was thrown on the outside locked doors, then the burglars entered, and kicked in the door to his business, and quite a lot was stolen. The crime was reported. We were away at the time. r He was with me. We had taken my daughter to school, and didn't find out until we returned. I suppose in case I ramble ' and forget part of my question, it's what concerns me, that I would like to know what police procedure really is? If it can be , detailed for me it would be reassuring. When we returned home I found out ; the Police report had been filed. Somehow our home numbers were not taken. The other boy's and ours, so that there was absolutely no follow-up. ; I followed up with calls, because I . felt that perhaps because they were kids the situation wasn't taken very seriously, and I have to tell you, maybe my perception may be wrong, but it was reinforced that it wasn't being taken seriously. I called two or three times, and each time 1 had the sense that I was reviewing what I knew for the person at the other end of ;the phone. That's one thing that concerns me. Another is that the boys know who did it. In Creenport word gets around. The kids who had hung- out in the store all summer, and this was not only a exercise .in capitalism -but, , also, some work oriented. my son and his partner wanted a place where kids could hang out, so they wouldn't be kicked out, or asked to move on. So they knew everyone, who might be possibility, and their suspicions were i,confirmed by other kids, and the items that were stolen were seen on kids, that hadn't purchased them. A pair of roller blades were seen on one of the kids that were a suspect. My son ran after him, didn't get into a fight, let him go off. It's clear, and they reported who the suspects, or the perpetrators are. I don't think they've been picked up. I could be wrong. I don't think they've been questioned by the Police. So, that's another disturbing thing to me. We stopped a Police car in town. He wanted, to know if. anyone had been picked UP,, and to me this is the most disturbing part. The Policeman in the car, first of all had all the other robberies' chronicled in front of him, didn't know about my son. So,. I went over it again. He showed me a mug shot of an individual, that had been recently ': released from jail, who the police suspect spearhead for whatever is going on. He first made a comment, frankly, I didn't think anybody made .anymore, which is that they all look alike, and I apologize for -that statement coming from me. It was disgusting to me, totally disgusting, and then from a pragmatic point of view, since two of these suspects my son named are black, he said if all the blacks looked exactly alike to .-him, how in the' world was he going to pick up the boys who were named? So, that's the end. I won't ramble on anymore. I would just like to- know what Police procedure is? What the follow-up is? Why the kids can't be picked' up? Maybe if . I understood I would be in a better place. Thanks. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Yes, sir? HARVEY STRANGE: Supervisor Wickham, the Board, my name is Harvey Strange on the corner of North and Third in the - Village of Creenport, a resident. I relate to what Mayor Kapell is talking about, because the middle of August I was out in my yard doing a little odds and ends, and one of the residents east of North Street came down and approached me. He was telling me that they were burglarized at their place, did I hear anything? I told him, no. I said; what happened to you up at the other end of North Street? He told me that they wrecked his place, and turned over his flower pots, and did all this;. So, I told him, I said, the best thing you can do do is go down there, and see Mayor Kapell about it. Now, I can relate to that, about the troubles around the Village of Creenport. But, like they. were saying, : one thing they need to do . is start that curfew going on down there. Maybe that will start breaking up a lot of this vandalism. Another thing what they need to do, is have a sub-station 'down there. Maybe you could have two officers down there at all times, riding up and down the street, because 1 know I called about different incidents. So, maybe they can't be in two place at one time, that's true. So, I says, something got to be done about this. Now, it's true elderly people are scared, and another thing about it, like you say, they park their car to go into their, try to go into their house, and then they're approached by a group of men. Another thing how long they ,going to keep SEPTEMBER 5; 1995 351 up with this? Now, if something don't get done, there's going to be another Cooperstown in Greenport.. I ,say people are scared. They're not going to stop picking things up on their own. You don't want that, or else somebody is going to get capped, and that's going to be it in the middle of the street, and then it's going to be blown all out of proportion, and you're talking about trouble _then. There's really going to be a whole lot of trouble. So, I suggest, like 'I said, for the Patrolmen substation, constant presence in the Village of Greenport. It's truly understaffed. I know quite a few of the fellows that was trying ;to get on the Southold Town Police Force. It's true you need to hire ..more, but you say, you hire more, budget, taxes, but you're going spay taxes as long as you're going to pay taxes. That's my whole thing about it., But, that's just the way it's got to be. It's true, men are on vacation,. men are sick, cuts the staff down, but you , got to start hiring more policeman. People are scared. Eventually they're . not going to get out of their cars for something. Somebody approaches them, cap, and .that's going to be it, and then all Hell going to break loose. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM.: Thank you. GEORGE :CAPON: George Capon, Greenport, 509 Seventh Street. What Mayor Kapell said is 100o right about Greenport, but it all started back with the old police department. My heroes, the Southold Town Board never went and hired more of the ex-Greenport Police Department. We have our own Police Department in Southold Town.. i Our policeman, some of them are working twenty-four straight hours shifts. Is that right or wrong? Would you check on it? I talked to two policeman now, who said they had worked twenty-four straight hours without going off. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Sixteen. Yes. GEORGE CAPON: Twenty-four he told me, and sixteen. One worked sixteen, and the other worked twenty-four. Even sixteen . straight hours is too much. If one of the. men had an accident, fell asleep, or something, on the beat, it would be paid. . I think right now the Town Board should go ahead, and hire Mr. Heins, and Mr. Ryan, right tonight. If they have to have a special hearing, go ahead, hire these policemen, because you have not enough policemen in Southold Town to take care of what the Village want, and to take care of what Southold Town has. Thank you. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you, George. Anyone else on the right side? ROY STANDISH: My name is Roy . Standish. I live in the Village of Greenport, and I am, I ' believe,one -of; the victims that was victimized over the weekend, and I'll tell you, i,t's a terrible feeling, because it seems like your personal space has been violated. You know, if you can't conduct a business in Greenport without the fear of being burglarized all the time. My wife is even fearful 'of walking, out of the shop in the nighttime, because of the youths on the corner. I feel that there should be something done, and I concur with Mayor Kapell, 'and :the others that have been up here, and I like his idea about a substation being put down there, where their presence is made of the police officers being there. I just want to tell you that it's a terrible feeling to be robbed, and when people just walk in there, and take the property that you !worked hard at a business, that you try to build up. It's ridiculous ,in ..plain English. I just urge you to try to do something to rectify the problem. HERB SCHMIDT: My name is Herb' Schmidt, Oyster Point Condominiums in Greenport. We've numerous incidents over the last three or four weeks at Oyster Point. One of them was rock throwing at the condominiums. The Police were called, and 'when' the Police arrived we were told there was nothing we could do about it, they were only children throwing rocks. Our marina was broken into numerous times. We call the Police numerous times. The Police write it down. Nothing ever happens. - My neighbors alerted me that there was a break in the marina five days ago. I apprehended the people, who broke into. Tthe marina. . I ;put them against a wall. They were about sixteen to eighteen years old. There was two of them, and I advised them if 352 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 they come back, I'm going to give them grief. They never came back. Not everyone can do this, and I'm well aware of it. Over the weekend our parking lot, automobiles were broken into. They had a field day. We called the Police. They wrote it down, and nothing happened. My point is, it's not that difficult, as many people reiterated here, to find the people that are doing it in Greenport'.. It's a small town. It's a square mile. They're on the streets. I see them. Where is the Police Force? The people are very upset. Please, help us. Thank you. EVERETT HOLLAND: My name is - Everett Holland. I live in Greenport. live on the corner of Second and Center Street, which is always, in the seven years I lived in 'Greenport, sort of a very difficult hot bed. I have a lot of vandalism over the years, and my house is now totally wired for everything, but sonar. But, nevertheless I still have problems with vandalism. When you first went on as our Police Force, in that area, because we are known., with problems with drugs, and vandals, and other things. We saw a great deal of your police cars on an on-going basis day and night, and it went underground', ;or went somewhere. . I don't care. didn't see it, nor was I frightened by ;it, but over the summer I have had the misfortune of being ill, and spending the bulk 'of my evenings dealing with a great deal of ; pain, and I'm awake most of the night. During that time, I sit in my living room in the dark, and watch everything under the sun going on in front, drugs being :sold on the street, to hot-rodders going down the street like a bat out of Hell, spinning around in the intersection there, which is a nice size, to see how far they can swerve around, and then peel off towards South Street, and squeal around the corner. It's ongoing. Music, I have a neighbor next door, at one point had a party with speakers as tall as me. House directly in back of me had a party at the same time with speakers as tall as me. Three houses down on Center Street, another party that same weekend, speakers as tall as me,, except four. All of them played different tunes at the same time. Granted the music was not to my liking, and I feel that in so many ways another individual has to realize that they have a right to their music, their life style, but they do not have a right inflict that upon me. The same way goes for me. I do not have a- right to inflict my music, my taste, on another individual, but, because 'we live in a very small close confined area, we must learn to cooperate, and coexist. l When I call the police on all these different occasions, I have been given' , well, there's nothing we can do. I've, also' had rocks thrown at my house, my car' has been broken into. have a beat-up old car. It's not worth anything, There's nothing to steal. don't bother to lock it,. -because it's- a pain in the ass to lock it, because it doesn't make any difference. So, what do they do? They bust the windows because it's fun. They like to • hear :the noise. It is an ongoing problem with some of these things, that are very small. When you do not deal with the small items, that goes 'to parking,. walking .in the - middle of the street, five kids. It's a very common thing ' in . Greenport to drive down the street, and five kids, or six kids are walking down the' street. They refuse to move. When you try to get them to -move, they beat on your car. I don't care if you're Arnold Schwartznager, . you're going to be threatened by this. It is a scary situation. When you do not deal with these little, tiny issues, as in create a police force, what happens is that they feel there is nothing that they can be touched by, and they run carte blanche. This is what we're having. They said misery likes company. I've been dealing with this for seven years, but my neighbors and friends on Bay Avenue, and Sixth Street, have not been, and I want to tell right now, I do not take any great pleasure in my friends, and neighbors, in other parts of the area, that have not had a problem in the seven years, that are now having a problem. It just goes that it is growing, and it is becoming a very bad cankerous sore, that is about erupt. Please, deal with it as soon as possible before it becomes dangerous.' Thank you. PETER HARRIS: My name is Peter .Harris from Greenport. Sitting here this afternoon, trying to take everything into consideration. However, the Village of Greenport had a referendum, land I'd like to know how the people, that went down in that referendum to safe their police department, how they feel? You're taking a lot of brunt up there today. I think the wrong people are taking the brunt. We made a big splash in the news. We did away with the police department. We saved money. We put a few dollars back in our pockets. But, did we really save? Do you honestly believe that there was no crime at the time of the abolishment of the Greenport Police Department? 35 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 3 Come on, people. Wake up. It was there, but it was covered up, because they didn't want people to know that there was crime out there. We can get by with just a few police officers from the Town of Southold. Well, now, it's come back to bite you in the bun. It's a shame, and I'd like to know how many of these people, and honestly, I feel sorry for them., but, how many of the people that have been mugged, broken into, how many of those people voted to abolish the police department? That's all I have to say. HUCH PRESTWOOD: My name is Hugh Prestwood in Creenport. happen to think first of all, that the problem Creenport is having now has nothing to do with which police force. was in. I saw these problems coming a couple of years ago, and to me they would be here no matter who was. But, we definitely need more. police right now. I feel like, that there's a certain point in which things get in a community bad enough to where the people who are law abiding begin to want to get out, and I really, for the first time this summer, I started feeling like Creenport is right just reaching that point.. People who I talk to, homeowners are seriously talking about getting out of here. I want to fight for Creenport. I just put a lot of money into my house, but I feel we have a deadly serious situation here, and we have got to make this community look like it's a lawful community. think that starts with cracking down on cars driving around with booming radios, or any of this, kind of seeming like little behavior. I think all lawfulness starts with that stuff. Thank you. BILL SWISKEY: Peter got up here, and said something about the abolishment of Creenport Police. Now, I voted against that, and I said at the time, but the outsiders decided to come in; probably six hundred of them, and did away with them. Creenport Police, believe me, was very efficient, whether anyone else cares to admit it. If they really knew what went on, they'd be surprised, but that's all in the past now, Mr. Wickham, and I look up .here, and I see you and the Councilmen, and the Councilwomen, and they are all like this. Well, Mr. Wickham, somebody is going to get hurt. Maybe it will be' an old woman, like Mrs. Hussie. You're talking about hiring two officers for a town that's forty or sixty square miles? That's just not, going to cut it anymore. You need at least eight to ten more officers, and you need them now, because the people that are coming to Creenport are also corning to Mattituck. There are serious problems in Mattituck. There's a bat fight in Orient. These people are drifting out here from the west, and you can laugh about it, but have you ever seen an old woman, that's busted up, or cut up by one of these punks? That's not funny, and you , people had better start taking it seriously, and you need at least eight to ten more officers. So, do something about. it now. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM:' Anyone else in the center section like to address the Board? LINDA GORDON: Linda Gordon. My husband and I opened a business two months ago in Creenport, and we bought a house two years ago in Orient, and over the course of the two years tried to find a way to get out here all the time from Manhattan. - We lived there for twenty years, and so we discovered a spot in Creenport, and over the course of the month that we were building it, and putting it together, my husband had been confronted by youths, and it was name calling at that time. A couple of weeks ago, it was stone throwing, and he confronted them, and they realized, oh, it's the man with the store. I personally think it was even worse, because that's when they stopped, and thought it was' someone who didn't live in town. So, what does that do for people who come in, and visit out area? Then after he confronted them, he turned around, and was hit again. Down the block he got into a police car, and they came to the front of our store, and nothing was done', and he was' pointing out the young man, one of the young men. There was a woman who worked in the; town, who said the other young men had gone down the alley. Nothing was done. They weren't pursued, and he called my husband a name. Therefore, my husband came into the store, locked the door, called the police, and had another police officer come. We stayed in the building, and -the police officer came to the window to call out, and as I went to the window he turned to his right to laugh and carry on with whomever, whether it be the people who were throwing the stones, the other police officer, or the merchant next door. When we started our business, we decided that we would be open late, because there were a lot of people, who wanted to eat after, say, eight, nine o'clock. So, we opened 354 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 until midnight, and we had a lot of people that would come in. The following days after that the kids would hang out front in groups of five or more, and they just hung out there, and then the merchant next door closed, whether it be nine o'clock, ten o'clock, whatever it was, we locked our doors. Then we would take a taxi home, because we felt that it was better to have that, than to get into our own car when no one was around. At least someone would be there, so that we could leave the store.. There was the one time, that we couldn't leave the door, because there was a bunch.of them hanging around the front door, carrying on, joking, waving into the store, and we stayed away ,from the •front of the ' store, and if the cab had pulled away we were ready to call another cab, but we weren't going to take the chance. In the past week it has stopped, but we close early. We stay in the store. to finish cleaning up, and we have many of our customers, that where we have built a clientele, that have tried to come in our store, who we've had to turn away. . My husband, at that point, when it happened said, we're closing, we're . leaving. We've invested a lot of time, and a lot of money, and we'll "stick it out for awhile, but it will all depend on what happens to the' streets of Greenport, ibecause we can pack up, and move back to New York, where I, feel we'll be safe. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Anyone else , in the audience like to address the Board on the matter of Greenport? HARVEY STRANGE: Harvey Strange on the corner of North and Third, resident. I don't want to cut nobody out, but I want to tell you something. Ali you people that are talking about, ;you're going to sell out, and get out of Greenport, and this and that, ,you going to run from the issue. Why run from it? Stay there and fight. That's what we can do. If you run out of the Village of Greenport, you go up ,the; island, look at Riverhead. They're catching it -up there. Move up to the island, there's more. When you get in the city, it's worse yet. I lived in the city for four or five years on the corner of Sty, Atlantic Avenue, so I know what it is. You can't tell what it is in Brooklyn, New . York. I know what it is. This is not the only place—anywhere you go you have crime, so it's nothing that's safe nowhere. As long as you keep your spirit up, and give it into the hands of the Lord, you'll make it somehow. But you go to keep good spirited faith up. Anywhere you go in this United States there's always going to be a little Greenport, but it may be worse yet: Then what you are going to do, keep going, and going? How far can you go? Then leave all together for another country. But this is your home here. Why? Like I said, it going be this all the time, but it's not as bad - when you go some places. True, people have been victimized. It's true: Has anybody been killed yet? No, thank Cod, it's true, no, not yet. But .anywhere you go is going to be rough, so at least we have it good for awhile here, until the Village of Greenport and Southold Town get together, and hire more policeman. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Let :. me just respond. Look, we've heard from everybody. We've heard from the Mayor at considerable length. I would like to give the Town Board an opportunity to address the serious issues, that have been raised. ' DAVID KAPELL: Mr. Supervisor, 'I'm sorry. I don't come. down here very often. I'm here on a matter of utmost importance. (tape change) I think you should stay right on track. I don't think you should be deterred for a second, and I support , you. But, you have another alternative. You have the alternative of hiring part-time police officers. The Civil Service list is - long with officers that are qualified, that have graduated from- the Suffolk County Police Academy. They are available to you for part-time service. Now, I grant you, there is .a : prohibition in your P.B.A. contract, that precludes it. So what? What you have here is to balance a contractual obligation with the P:B.A. against public safety in the Village of Greenport. What's the worse that's going to happen? The P.B.A. will file a grievance? If the P.B.A. chooses to come out against the delivery of public safety in the Village of.. Greenport so be it. That would be an irate to say the least. But I think this Board has an obligation to make appointments to fill this docket that everybody's referred to, and I think you have a very clear economically efficient way. to do, and you can do it in a short time. Lastly, I just want to say that what we're trying to do in Creenport, we're going to draw a line in the sand against the incursion of urban crime that besets all of America. We know this is not unique to�Greenport. We know it's not unique to Greenport even within Southold Town. But, we're not going to SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 355 have in Creenport. The fact that the officers now patrolling the village wear Southold Town uniforms, so what? What difference does it make whether they carry a Southold Tovgn badge, a Creenport badge, a New York State Police badge, Suffolk County? Who ever can get the job done. You folks can do it, if you put your minds to it, and make a commitment to it, and we ask you do that, and do it tonight. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: . I'd like to address some of the issues, A lot of them have to do with .the role of Supervisor. I can't speak for the rest of the Board, although I'm sure there. 'are lots of areas where there Is support across the issue on the Board. I'd like to begin by saying, that when the question of abolishing the Police Department first came up In Creenport well over a year ago, I essentially said, I think the Town of Southold can do the job of providing 'security to the people of Creenport. I didn't encourage it, but if that step was taken, the Town of Southold will be ready to fill. that slot, and I think we have been ready. I think we have done a . satisfactory job, and I think the job has met with the approval of the residents of Creenport until about the last ten days. In fact, the comments and the general level of reaction that I've gotten, since we took on that job last November, has generally been positive, until about a week or ten days ago. So, that's the context, or the background. That's not to say things are perfect. That's not to say there aren't still serious problems, that need to be dealt with, but the comments I got were, gee, . there's a lot more Police Officers patrolling the .streets of Creenport that we used to see, or, gee, the policemen are actually trying to be helpful, and Oe see them more .often, and they seem to be dealing with the problems effectively. So, that was a sense, and I use the past tense, was a reassuring sense up until the last week or ten days. The last week or ten days have changed that. We do have a crisis in Creenport. I don't think there's any question about it. There's clearly a tremendous increase in .serious crime, burglary, and robberies. The Mayor- first brought it to my attention last week. After that, when lie first brought it to my attention the first thing I did was to call up the State Police, and the State Police has dedicated a group of people to be down in the Village every night, since last Friday night when we called them. They have been . down there. They have three men, and two vehicles, on Friday night. They have had roving people on Saturday, and Sunday, and Monday nights, since that time. So, there has been that step taken that augments the security in the Village. There have been other things that we've done. We have added plain clothes policeman to Creenport, not around the clock, and not when our schedules were stretched tight. But, frequently we've had pairs of two Police Officers without uniform to try to catch, these perpetrators. Part of the problem that I've heard from you tonight- Is that these guys tend to run down the alleys, and they escape, and having escaped they're at large again. We need to catch these guys, arid: bring them to justice. That's one of the elements of enforcement that the Town does. Having people in marked patrol cars patrolling the town does give a sense of security, and It is more than a sense. It's important to the security of the village, but we also need to find out who these guys- are, and that's what we're trying to do, and we're allocating some manpower- to do that. On the question of sectorial assignments of the police officers, as you all know we have a sector, well, maybe not we. all know, the basic assignment in that part of the town is one sector that includes Orient, East Marion, and Creenport. In the last week, since this problem has developed, that person has spent essentially all of his time In Creenport. In addition, .when we have enough officers, that we can assign, any additional officer we will assign, we are assigning, to the Village of Creenport: Tonight there will be the two Police Officers that the Mayor requested, and we have, also, been requested. ' When the Mayor came to my office on Friday, and fie said, gee, we need more support, we need more patrol presence. He characterized that. . . .me. . .today, when he. described that. . .myself as saying, I'm sorry we can't properly look after the welfare; and the security of Creenport. But that really wasn't what 1 said. I said, we will provide the Police protection in Creenport, but for the next two days during the Labor Day weekend, we would not be abl`e' to augment or increase beyond what we had scheduled for Creenport. 'We didn't have the capacity on what is the 356 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 busiest weekend of the' entire year, to: add additional people to Creenport for those two days. We didn't have it, because as somebody said already this afternoon, we already have holes to fill in our Police schedule. We had to have two men do double shifts. Double shifts means after finishing an eight hour shift, they had to do immediately another eight hour shift. That was a fact of life, for about two days in the scheduling life of our Police Department. Fortunately, we're through that now. - But even then, -even with those double shifts, we had two patrol officers in Creenport " most of that nighttime period of the nights of this past weekend. I know we did, because I personally spent two, three and' four hours of those nights reviewing what our Police Officers 1were doing. As a matter of fact I didn't see it happen, but 1 was "rig{it within one block of the two robberies, that were described tonight, that Mrs'. Brett, and Mrs. . Tuminello, one at Bay, Avenue, ,and one at the ATM at the North Fork Bank, and I could see, "listening to the police radio, our Police responded in seconds, not minutes. They were quick. Within minutes we had not only two Police Officers,. and the Sergeant, who is a roaming Sergeant throughout the town. Within several more minutes we had a Detective, four uniformed Police Officers on the scene. Now, that's a quick response. , The problem with the respond is, that it is not a deterrent to these roaming groups of people, who are out there, and it's a response not a way of trying to keep it from happening in the first place. The way to do that is, to place more marked patrol vehicles with officers in them, actually patrolling the back roads, and :the darker alleys of Creenport. This, we can do. We have asked the Chief to do it. They are doing it, and 1 thing you will see, . beginning today, a greater attention to the patrol duties out of the mainstream, out of Main Street, and Front Street, but into the darker, and the smaller parts of; the Village of Creenport. I want to just comment, that the commitment that I've made to the people in the village is to provide equal protection to the Village, equal to that, that we're providing anywhere else in the town. It's a difficult balancing act, because we do have the "whole town to look after. There is no question of a second class status for Creenport. Creenport is getting, if anything a disproportionate share of .the resources of the town. Last night, we had two other incidents in the town. One was an assault out in Orient, and one was a fight and melee in. Mattituck in front of the AEP station, and somebody went to the hospital. Thank goodness, we don't have people yet being hospitalized in Creenport, and if the Police Department of Southold Town has anything to do about it, we`won't have that. But, what I'm trying to describe is a responsibility that we have in the Town of Southold throughout the whole ,town, and our job, my job, is to provide equal protection under the law throughout tht? whole town. If there is a particular problem, as there clearly is in Creenport,- we will mass our available resources in Creenport, 'and we are doing that, and now, that the .Labor Day weekend is past, we. can do it much more readily, and to a greater extent. There are several steeps that we talked about this morning, when I attended the Creenport' meeting. I'll just describe them very briefly. We can ask our ' Police Officers to spend less time conversing with each other,., and more time actually patrolling the streets. That's the request that I've heard, not only in Creenport, but elsewhere in the town. We can place -an additional :sector more readily, and easily, now that the Labor Day crunch is past.: We can continue to engage the New York State Police to have their people out there. I believe that the Town of Southold has the available manpower resources, right now, by judicial scheduling by getting our officers out on the streets to adequately look after the security needs of Creenport, and the rest of the town. It isn't easy. It does" call for considerable overtime, but I think we can do it, and I think we will be doing it. I look forward to continuing to be in conversation with the .Mayor, and with you, as to your- experience, and where you feel that needs need to be met, where they may not be met. We can engage on those .things. There's lots more I could say, but I'd like to turn it over, and invite any other member, who would like to address the comments that we just heard. SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 357 COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I'd like to ,make just a couple of points, some of which the Supervisor has touched on a bit. I spoke to Dave towards the end of last week, when I became ' aware that there was problem. In my business you run into some incidents, and I've run into an incident. One of the women, that talked about robbing a store, and when I talked to Dave, and unfortunately I was leaving the next day, and so I called the Chief, and asked him what ' was going on, and he told me, that there was a problem, that they had scheduled a couple of unmarked cars to do some stake-outs, and they" thought they could handle it on that basis. Apparently, they could not, because Labor Day weekend created a lot more problems. That has concerned you. I-t concerns me. I'm fairly certain, that it has concerned the rest of the Town Board, and I don't think your concerns will go unattended, but I would like to point out a couple of things. First of all, up until this period of time, I have been very pleased with what had been 'going on in Creenport over the last six months to a year. I'd seen tremendous improvement in the spirit of the community, in the prosperity of the community, `if you will, the number of people coming there, the people that were promoting it. It went from a couple of, years ago, when you were basically calling in, Federal help, and State Police, and having real problems. These problems are not imaginary. This is not the first time. it happened. It's probably .very depressing. We are coming off a long period of time, where we've been very optimistic about the village. I recall a summer ago, some people' that were assaulted. There was a killing not too long ago, of course that was just outside the village. There have been lots of problems. Some of the incidents you mentioned have not been in the village. They have been just outside the village. It's difficult to separate, and it shouldn't have to be separated. My feeling is let's not let this two week period destroy what has happened. I mean, we'll make a commitment to help focus police resources. We've got to move people along. Part of the .problem that I've noticed is there have been groups of people on the street; that have to be moved along. We have to become better managers of the Police Department. We can't take :anything for granted. The way that the police department was run twenty. years ago, can't be run like that. Our predominate focus for the summer months, probably can't be traffic control. We're going to have to focus on the hot spots, whether it be Mattituck, Creenport or wherever, we're ,going to ;have to create a system where we're more affective. Whether .we"ll solve the; whole problem now, I don't know, but I think we can do a better job, than we've done so far, especially these periods. You know, Labor Day, Memorial Day, Fourth of July, those are times when we're going to be stretched. We have twenty-some men. If we have to regulate when vacations are. .one of problems we have is not so much, that we just don't have the men. We have men that are sick. We have men that take vacations, when they want, and we just have to manage the force. I'm not going to inpune the management we have now. It's been done that way for a long time in Southold Town. I just think we have to work with them to develop more creative ways, to create presence, and to attack the problems we have. That's, what" I'd' like to do. I mean, the village has options, too. Not "too long ago you did have a police force. I have to disagree with someone said you need eight men on duty. The Chief said that also. We already have a .Chief. We don't need a Chief, we already have .officers. We don't need officers, but we do need affective management of the men we have, and I think we can do a better job. If you look back most of you here will agree that we have been a better job. in terms of basic safety issues, up until two or three weeks ago. Let's work together to solve this problem, and I think the Town Board will work. I'll try to call a Police Committee meeting. I'm not the Police Committee head, but I think we can call a Police Committee meeting, and start working on different management things we can do. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Any other Board members like to address these issues? If having two marked cars on the road in Creenport is the criteria, that we will have tonight, and I think we'll have it for some period in time, better management, and `getting through the Labor Day weekend, when personnel is the scarcest. Is there any other comment, that people want to 'make on the Creenport Police issue? Yes, sir? SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 r 358 TOM MONSELL: My name is Tom 'Monsell. I live in Creenport. It seems to me, that most of these problems you just discussed really deal with youth, really deal with kids. Almost all : of these crimes are crimes done by young people. I would say young men, .and as a teacher, I would say that, you know, you're letting a gang mentality take over. Part of the problem here is, the core problem to me is the social welfare system, that has unfortunately lumped most of this in Creenport. If some of these kids were separate, kids were in other areas, the ;gang mentality could not take over. But, I think, a gang mentality, since they don't see a police force, or as frequently as they did the past, has. taken over in their minds, and that's what we're all suffering from. Thank you. BARRY LATNEY: Barry Latney, again. I just want to say that two more. police cars is a beginning. It's :not going to eliminate the problem, and you will not eliminate the problem until you - get the criminals off the streets, and until they see that you're serious about getting them off the streets, the crime '-is just going to continue. We need to get them off the streets. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: We're rworking on that. Are there any other comments, that other people .in the audience would like to make to the Board tonight? We've had a very intensive discussion. I'm not sure how much more the Board could absorb at this stage'. BILL SWISKEY: It still comes down to, you talk about management, you talk about manpower. A man in a uniform in a -car is a police presence. Somebody to chase somebody down the alley. Management doesn't do that. You eliminated eight to nine men, and 'now, you're going to rob Mattituck, which is going to have problems, to ,control Creenport? You need those seven, eight, nine more men. You have a million dollars in the yellow bag fund. Dig into it, -and hire, some officers. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you for ,the view. Any other points, or do I hear a motion for adjournment? We've had a lengthy discussion about Creenport matters. It's eclipsed other areas of interest, that people may have. Would anyone else like to address the Board on other topics today? JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIC: , Mr. Wickham, and Town Board members, empathize with you, because I know you've had a long day. However, I'm going to make my comments brief. Today when I attended the Southold 'Town Board Work Session, Mr. Townsend stated that he thinks, that you need more input from community members regarding the TDR Program. Correct me if I'm wrong. I agree with him 1000, however, how do you qualify a person, as an expert. My„ definition of, an expert if a person who is very skillful, or highly trained, ' and. informed in • some special field. understand that you now have a revised, quote, guest list, of persons who will be invited to a special meeting. Please, correct me if I'm wrong again, but to my knowledge there is not one property owner's name on that list. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: My I respond? If you recall, I brought :together a, you know,., a revised letter .sent out, that reflected the minority view, that integrated the minority.. I think it emphasized further the tentative nature of this .report. On the back there was some names. I'd asked that they basically be kept in-house, until we get a chance to review. But, on the back there - were some names that one person in the Planning Department put together. That is not the list. So, don't be worrying about that. Also, I do want some experts there, but I want interested people, too. It's not supposed to be just experts. It's supposed to be something—for instance, you're a member of a association, or you live on a block, or you hear something. I want somebody from the areas in the hamlet district to come in and say, look, this 'is a bad Adea. We should look at it all, or, yes, it can work on this basis, or give their concerns. My concern is that before we come up with a program, we 'put out some feelers, and if it's not going to work, that's not going to beat: our heads against a wall. Let's find out now. But, it is potentially an affective tool, and it's a tool where people may make some sacrifices, but they should not- have to great sacrifices to preserve a large area of open space in this town, to preserve the feel of what we have now, because the alternative is that we have development spread out perhaps, but all over Southold Town. So, this is one tool, and the letter that will go out will say that. This is, also, not going to be the major public presentation. This is going to be. a work group SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 359 to see if we can go from a very tentative program to something, that is a little more defined. Where -we can define the receiving areas a little more. We can define the terms. We can define the level of increased development in each area, because some of those questions are far from being resolved, so I want to put everybody's mind at ease. We're not trying to slip anything by anybody. We're not trying to restrict this. We're just trying to do the thing the right way. JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIC: With all due respect, I've heard that comment about ten times from different offices in the Town Clerk's Office, and different people. 1 never implied that you were trying to slip the wool .over our eyes. I never meant that to be an' implication. However, I know that the Board can agree with you, when you're speaking, but what goes on behind closed doors is another .matter,,. and I'm not saying that anyone is deceitful . . I'm just saying that , we want to know the truth. Number one, my next question is that if there are no property owners' names on the list, do you feel that we're not -knowledgeable enough to make some decisions about. . SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Excuse 'me. I want to ,interrupt. There certainly will be property owners on that list. There will be property owners galore on that List. I haven't even seen' the list. When that list is finished, it will be full of property owners. That is not a concern. JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIC: That's wonderful. Reassuring me of that, that's great. No one has ever said that. We've been told we'll be invited to meetings. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I kept waiting' for Joe to say, and he didn't quite say it, so I had to break in. JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIC: You're interjecting, because now we have piece of mind, that we will be invited. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Absolutely. JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIC: My last comment, I said I would make it brief, because you've been here since 9:30 this morning. Mr. Wickham, this is our town. You are our leader, and I think that you have to make a concerted effort in the future to include the community in everything that's going on in Southold Town, so that they can better informed, and not just hear things from the grapevine here, and a little here. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you. , I really appreciate that. 1 totally agree with you. There's nothing .more important than to get these views out, to get everybody's involvement, ' to get everybody's participation. The reason that hasn't happened well. in the TDR. thing yet, is that we really haven't started it. We haven't really launched it, and the Town Board at it's Work Session today, again found itself unable to agree how even it launch this process. The only thing we did do was' to establish a committee to study it, and give us a report. Now, the report is with us. We haven't been able to .decide, as a Board, how, to get citizen input into it, but I can tell you one thing. As soon as we decide that, as soon as we agree it will be the most public, the most inclusive effort every made. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: . You've been here a couple of meetings now, and I know you're very concerned about that, and I think that it came about, because some unfortunate things that went on, maybe in the Planning Department relative to a development, that you're related to. I think that was your concern. I think there were some mistakes made in that there were some things said, that shouldn't have been said, relative to a TDR Program. We had no TDR Program. There may never be a TDR Program, so if anybody was under the impression that we had one in the wings, and the Planning Department is just waiting to implement it, that's not correct. i don't even think that was their, or maybe it was their intent, but they were incorrect if they did that. From the beginning, in terms of my concept of bringing it out in this initial meeting, which is not the major public presentation, we're trying 'to get people to have an interest, or an expertise in property values, and the potential for a Transfer of Development Rights Program. From the beginning we wanted to have major input from homeowners association, especially those people that are within the sending areas, and the receiving areas. Somebody that is, not in either 360 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 one is not going to be particularly concerned. So, that's what we're looking at. We're. going to try to initially get people from those areas. Now, I know there's a lot of concerns, but I want to put your mind at ease. You will have plenty of time to have some input. ' You know, transfer of development rights does imply sacrifice. In the words of our , fearless leader, Bill Clinton, a shared sacrifice. The goal is not to create something that is unbearable, or that's going to change the character of the community, which is what I said you .were afraid of, something that will dramatically change the character of your community. JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIC: Overdevelopment, that's what it all boils down to. Thank you very much.. RON . YEDLOUTSHNIC: TDR's again, you were saying that you don't have too much information, or haven't been doing much. In my short time of investigating the TDR's, which I accidentally came across about a month ago, we've accumulated several hundred pages 'of documentation from the TDR Program. It's been going on for at least eighteen months. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Eighteen months here in the Town of Southold? RON YEDLOUTSHNIC: Yes. JUSTICE EVANS: You mean it's been researched. RON YEDLOUTSHNIC: We have quite a. bit of information. Perhaps maybe more than you people are. knowledgeable ;about, but there's one statement, or one document that we were very thankful was written. That was by two members of the TDR Work Croup, which was Ms. Anne Lowry, and Ms. Lydia Totora. It was extremely well written. It gets to the point, and we, people that are against the TDR, we 'hope that the Board members read this, and absorb what was written in that. We are congratulating those two ladies very much for writing that. At the last Board meeting, my wife, who was just up here, she asked some questions regarding Harvest Homes Estate, and she was wondering why they were advertising half acre lots on the Harvest Homes Estates Section II . 1 quote you, Mr. Wickham, stating you emphatically stated there's absolutely no connection between the TDR Program, and Harvest Homes Estates, correct? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I don't recall my words, but that sounds like what I would have said. RON YEDLOUTSHNIC: The Harvest Homes Estates Section 11, am incorrect in saying that .they have been suggested as one of the areas proposed for a pilot project for the TDR? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Yes. RON YEDLOUTSHNIC: Am' I incorrect? .SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I think you are correct. It has been suggested. In fact, even the Planning Board ! suggested that, that might be a possibility, and when I heard about that,' and after the. Board meeting, when you and others came to see us, I spoke with members of the .Planning Board, and of the Planning Board staff, and I think they have changed that point of view, and I think they've reflected it to the developer. RON YEDLOUTSHNIC: Are there other pilot projects? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There are no, pilot projects, because there is no program. , RON YEDLOUTSHNIC: No, but proposed, pilot projects? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Not even proposed. RON YEDLOUTSHNIC: Not Ackerly Pond Road has 'been been proposed? SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 3 6 SUPERVISOR WICKHAM:. I'm not aware of anything. But, the point that I want to make is, I don't see how can hold a project as a potential TDR Program, when there is .no TDR Program. That's the point I made to the Planning Board, and the Planning Board:accepted that point. RON YEDLOUTSHNIC: Excuse me, but I think our concern has been that we only found out about, it,. and we now find out this has been going on for eighteen months, and we have not heard much about it, and we're just very concerned that we want to make sure that we're well advised on what is going on. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: What the Planning Board did say was, in the event, that a TDR Program should go ,forward, this is a logical site for a Transfer Exchange. That actually is not an unreasonable statement, but the point is that the program hasn't gone forward, - and there is no deals, no promises, no assurances to that development. It's going to be treated just like any other development in the town. . RON YEDLOUTSHNIC: I had the opportunity to, also, see this, quote, guest list. It was interesting to see, that Mr. DeBrava, who owns the property :in Harvest Homes Estates, Section II, is listed as a home builder, as well as, quote, - potential user of TDR Programs. There's another gentleman on that, Mr. Chris Biaz, shown as a potential user of TDR Programs, and it is sort of a coincedence, that they are on that list, and they are the owners of Harvest Homes! Estates, which we consider a pilot project, and Ackerly Pond Road, which has been considered as a pilot project. Thank you. ROBERT BANNON: Supervisor, Board members, my name is Robert Bannon. I'm a homeowner in the Village of Southold. I read the Stewardship Task - Force Report when it first came out. I was concerned about TDR proposals, and that. I read the Working Croup's report, and I read the minority report. I understand that you had scheduled for the next Town Board meeting, going to put on the agenda this matter for discussion by the Board, and I applaud that. I would just like you to know, that I feel that the TDR Program is bad for the Town of Southold, bad for any small town. The changes of the 'way the, government is conducted in this town, -it takes away your power, as our elected officials, to down zone, for instance. It gives that developers as a matter of right. I'm for development. I don't think any town can survive without , orderly development, but orderly development is necessary for the proper. development of any town, not based on the private motives of developers. I think the TDR Program is a windfall, frankly, for farmers, and developers, and I think it's a disservice to homeowners, and the ordinary citizens of Southold. Thank you. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you. Since we're on the Transfer of Development Rights issue, is- there anyone else who like to address the Board on that issue? The-gentleman, in the blue shirt? ROBERT FAIRLIE: My name is ' Robert Fairlie, and I live here in .Southold. You just said there's no commitment been made to this builder for this . Harvest Homes Estates, then how can he advertise half acre plots, which is one acre zoning. He advertises in the newspapers. It's up west in newspapers. How can he do that, sir, if he has no commitment? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Let me try to explain that. We have in the Town of Southold subdivisions. When a piece of property is subdivided into parcels for home lots, if it's more .than ten acres or so, which this subdivision is, we require clustering. What that means is, that development is zoned as one acre lots. It's zoned as one acre' zoning. Clustering means, that we allow the developer to use half of that area, and put half acre lots, and the other half remains open. In other 'words, we focus the development, and this is a well established planning tool, we focus development in essentially half of the area on half acre lots, and the developer is not allowed to build on the remaining half. It's . a conserved area in a subdivision. Consequently, you can have advertised half acre lots in a area, that's zoned for one acre zoning. But, the catch is, that the guy is not allowed to develop thewhole thing. He still only gets the, how many acres is it? Twenty roughly? 362 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 JEAN YEDLOUTSHNIC: Fourteen point nine. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Say fifteen acres. At most he should get fourteen or fifteen homes. I think it's only twelve, because of the roads, and all of that. Twelve. He can still get those twelve lots, but they are - going to be twelve half acre lots, and then the other half of that area should remain open. That has nothing to do with TDRs, and that remaining area, that's being opened is not a football. It is not a TDR reserve just waiting : for some program to happen. It was suggested by the Planning Board that, hey, if the Town does enact a Transfer of ,.Development Rights Program, hey, that would be a good area. for sending, or receiving, or something. That is speculative, because we don't have a program, and I've asked the Planning Board not to make those statements in the future. In fact, they've agreed. ROBERT FAI RLI E: Mr.. Supervisor, , we!II have to. hold you to . your word, . that those remaining acres are not going' to be TDR. Is that correct? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I can't tell you what course the TDR Program is going to take. What I can say is, that there are no deals. There's no promises for it, and right now that development is being treated just like every other development in Southold Town. If it could happen in any other development, I suppose"'it could happen there, so F can't sit here today, and tell you categorically it could never happen there: This Board might agree, even with the six of us, might agree someday to make it possible, to go back to an existing subdivision, that has reserved areas in a clustered subdivision, and say, hey, let's make an area be available for a TDR Program. But, this Board has- not taken that step, and listening to all of the comment, I doubt if` it's going to take that step. It would take special legislation to make it happen. It would also take a' vote of this Board by a majority plus one, that is to say five ' votes, to break the covenants and restrictions, that go with reserved open space. So, I can tell you from a practical point of view, the likelihood of that happening is virtually nil. ROBERT FAIRLIE: One other question,' then. Automatically he's entitled to half acre zoning? This is- what you're saying in cluster development. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: He's entitled to. one acre zoning, but because of fhe clustering provision in Southold Town,; he is not only entitled, but he's required to place half acre lots on half the area, and keep the other half free and open. So, he still only gets the total of twelve lots. ROBERT FARLIE: Thank you. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: On the same subject? MYRA STECMAN: My name is: Myra. : Stegman, and I live on Oaklawn Avenue. We discussed this last time about the ' zoning of that piece of property. The zoning is one acre, zoning.. You assured me that the piece that would be left would left in perpetuity, which to me means forever. At the same time, when I was at the Planning Board meeting, before they .realized that I was there, I wasn't really there about Oaklawn Avenue, I was there about the TDR, but this came up. In the discussion, among the members, lead me to believe that they were planning to use this piece in the future, in the event the TDR Program was put into effect. Now, this is my only concern. Oaklawn Avenue is populated enough. The traffic is horrendous. There are too. many cars ;per hour that go down that street. We, also, have a school on that street, and we do not need further development. Now, I agree with the' man, who said before, we need assurances that this is going happen. I don't know how we can go about getting these assurances,' but I'm guarantying you, that we are insisting on these assurances. We will not tolerate that piece to be overdeveloped. Now, you're talking about half acre zoning. The man has a plan before the Board, which was approved by. the .Planning Board, a sketch plan, and he plans to put these houses in the fringes using the existing roads. Therefore he doesn't have to put in any roads. Therefore that piece of property is to remain, I . don't care what is done with it, but it would be nice if the Town took it, and created a park; because., 'ewe, as citizens deserve open space. They who choose to come to Southold, are the ones that are going to benefit from the open space, that you're talking about, and they'll ride by, and say, isn't this pretty? But the people living on Oaklawn Avenue are have to be considered that they don't deserve open spaces? SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 363 SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: On this particular project, I have to just repeat, there will be open space in that project. MYRA STEGMAN: I want a guarantee, that will never be built on, because you told me, in perpetuity, and that means forever. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: . There will be covenants and restrictions on it along the lines of the Planning Board, all these assist with any other development, and I'm not aware of any developments in this town, where those covenants and restrictions have been broken. Really this discussion should be held with the Planning Board. They have responsibility for these things. MYRA STEGMAN: I realize that. I've. been to Planning Board, and you are the Supervisor. 'You should have something to say about what the Planning Board does. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I have had something to say, and I'm pleased to tell you that they have recognized the importance, the sanctity of the open spaces created as part of the subdivision process, and they have taken steps to see that, that will be retained. MYRA STEGMAN: Right'. Now, the other point, I have read all these papers, I have read all these TDR reports. Within that report it states, that at the time that you wish, .or whoever is in charge, wishes to put it in this TDR Program, that they can bypass any covenants that exist. Now, that's another point that I want cleared up. I do not want multiple houses on that piece of property. Whatever has to be done to assure me, that it's not going to happen is what I am insisting on. Thank you. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Any other comments on Transfer of Development Rights? You've had your chance. Is there anyone else? Would you speak your name again? d RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: Ron Yedloutshnig from Southold. This property is somewhat different. The builder, , tha't wants thirteen lots, he opted for twelve on the outside, which he has for sale. The one in the middle he's leaving vacant, and we're assuming that it's for one reason, because that proposed road for that seven and a half acre building plot in the middle goes right by my house, so ' that's why I was wondering why he would only build on the twelve outside, and leave that center lot for seven and a half acres. Excuse me,. the half acre lots, he's got twelve. Am I assuming that take care of twelve acres of that fourteen point nine? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: ' It's twelve 'ha.lf acre lots equals about six acres. You add little roads, little of this and that, and that's supposed to equal about half of the total area. The, other half is supposed to remain open. RON YEDLOUTSHNIG: It's been approved for thirteen lots. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I just don't know the detail on that. Anything else on this subject? (No response.) One of our Town Board members has to get to the Mattituck Airport before 7:00 o'clock. I'm hoping that we can pull this to a close. Anything else on any other subject, that anyone would like to bring to the attention of the Board? PETER HARRIS: Peter Harris, Greenport. I just want to touch on . . I didn't attend last month's meeting, but I watched it on television, and again, tonight, the Mayor of Greenport (tape change.) He asked questions. He demanded answers. They tried 'to give answers, and he kept interrupting. You go to his court, and go interrupt him, and he'll cut you off just like that. You demand an answer, I'm not answering that. How, in turn, can Mayor Kapell come into our court, Town of Southold, demand things, I want it right now. I want it now. That's the way he is. You can't always have your cake and eat it, too. Supervisor Wickham, you were on the phone. You tried to answer Mayor Kapell. You couldn't get in, so you had to hang up. You couldn't answer his questions, because he wouldn't let you answer them. Is that a fact, or not? '3 6 4 SEPTEMBER 5, 1995 SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I know the Mayor is working in the best interests of Greenport. We're trying to operate in the best interests of Southold. Greenport is a critically important part of Southold., I assume that our interests are together. -It's our job now to provide security, to provide the needs of the Village, and we're going to do that. PETER HARRIS: The fact of the matter remains, I mean, I'm a Gr.eenporter true, and true, even though I don't live in the incorporated village, okay? But, they-. want their own little separate entity, except when it's not to their advantage, okay,? They had a great Police Force. They might have had a problem, but" instead trying to solve the problem, just get rid of the Police Force, okay? That's the way it seems to be going down the line, okay? We want a carousel. We want sculptures. We want a harbor front. We want a harbor wharf. That's all well, and good, but the fact of the matter is, there is crime out there, twenty-four hours a day. I don't care if you're in Laurel, Orient Point, wherever. It's there. But, you got to understand, they've , got to accept part of the responsibility, too, and just, .whatever little part they want to cut out, well, we'll let the Town take care of that part. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: You've said that much better than I could have. Mr. Capon, the last word.? GEORGE CAPON: George Capon, Greenport. One thing, as Mr. Kapell said before, that the Town should treat the Village just like the Town. Why don't the' Village treat the people that is outside of the Village in the East-West Water District the same, that the village; is. We have to pay more money for our water and sewer, than what the people in the "village does. If they want everything equal, than we should have it equal. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Let's go to work on that. GEORGE CAPON: One other thing, last meeting I asked you about the Town Board giving something to the Ex-Chief Walden of the Greenport Police Department. You told me, that the Town Board was represented. Who represented the Town Board? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: -1 -was mistaken in that. I think our Police Chief was there. I had forgotten. I had not signed the proclamation. It was prepared, and I never got back to the person, that prepared it, and it was just an oversight. GEORGE CAPON: I heard, that it was given to you, and you refused to sign it. Is that true, or not? Did, you refuse to sign that thing? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: That is true. . GEORGE CAPON: Then I think you ,should really apologize to Mr. Walden. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'll give some thought to that. I think we've had a .lengthy night. I really have got to get Louisa to the airport, and I don't want to get a speeding ticket on the way. I'd like_ to hear a motion to adjourn. Moved by Justice Evans, seconded 'by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 6:60 P.M. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, .Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. A/Judith T. Terry C er� Southold .Town I