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HomeMy WebLinkAboutZBA-09/03/1959 r Ln Southold Town Board of Appeals S O UTH O LD, L. I., N. Y. Telephone SO 5-2660 APPEAL BOARD MEMBERS Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman Robert Bergen Herbert Rosenberg Charles Gregonis,Jr. Serge Doyen, Jr. MINUTES Southold Town Board of appeals September 39 1959 .A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was held Thursday, September 3 , 1959, 7:30 P.M. , at the Town Clerk's Office' Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs. Robert W. Gillispie , Jr. y Chairman, Robert Bergen, Herbert Rosenberg, and Charles Grigonis' Jr. Absent: Mr. Serge Doyen, Jr. Also present: Mr. Howard M. Terry, Building Inspector. The Chairman opened the meeting by -reading the letter which was forwarded to Mr. Helmut Hass on date of August 31, 1959 advising that his .Appeals No._ 208, 2099 2102 211 and 212 would be continued to this date (September 3) and askirg that a representative of the Southold Town Beach Motel be present to discuss locations of the proposed signs with the Board. The Chairman then read the following application' legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting to its publication in the official newspaper: 7:40 P.M. (E.D.S.T.) , upon appli" cation of Helmut Hass, for SoutholdTo�,m Beach Motel, North Southold ,Town Board of. Appeals -2- September -3 , 1959 Road, . Southold, New York, for .a special exception in accord- with the Zoning Ordinance9 Article IVi.. Section 408, ' for,' permi ssion to erect- and maintain' a 'directional advertising sign . on the property of Richard E. . Schie.fer., east side Bowery Lane ' and south. side North.,Road, � Southold, ' New York. . Fee, :paid $15.00. CHAIRMAN: Mr,. Hass, there is a great: problem where signs are concerned because 'of the 'great 'many people •against 'signs. It is necessary to have the. exact .location where you wish to place signs and then it would .b.e. 'up to- the 'Board to determine what is reasonable and what is. unreasonable. There should not be a ' sign on .a persohs front .lawn, that is not a -good: idea. Also it is. _felt signs should ions locations where they will. do the most good We have 'had`as many as four. and five hundred people against, a. single We will now take this application to place a., sign on the Schiefer property. .. Mr. Hass introduced Mr. .Ernbst. Eisen, Southold, New York. Mr. Eisen -,painted the signs 'in question, for .Mr. .Hass. CH.A IRMO: . Is there anyone-present who wishes to speak for this application? MR. HELMJT HASS' Southold. Town Beach .Motel: .We need the directional sign -to' Airect people to the motel. . Most people ask,how do we. go't there? . We are. having circulars printed which will .be ser_t ,to Vile.,people telling 'them. to turn right at. Mattituck and follo-ring the signs down to the.. motel... We - particularly need a sign at 'Matti tuck directing them to the North Road because once on ,the,,North Road they are o.k. CHAIRMAN: How. many .signs. do you have. on Route 25? MR. HASS:. None'. CHAIRMAN^O None 'west , of. the motel? N o HASS�: None CNAIRI�iAN: ., East. of the,'motel? -MR. -HASS: .. There are::none,. g4st;either. CHAIRMAN: Is there., anyone else present. ih o wishes to speak for .this appli cation? Is.'. there, anyone present -vaho. wishes to speak. against 'this application?'- ;Are there any questions members oy --the Board would like to ask? MR. BERGEN: How long will the signs be up? Southold -Town Board of Appeals =3 September. 3 , 1959 Tom. HAPS: T willput them 'in the ground in' the spring and take them out at -Christmas'.'.' They will be 3 by. 4 and stuck. iri the ground like ,the State signs. — (:Mr.' Hass explained the size and type of signs to be erected. ) MR. ROSENBERG: Why do people need a sign on that corner., Schiefer property to tell them to`stay on the road 9: when. the sign 27A. is there... MR. -EIS-EN: A lot of traffic goes, ,through there. Whent hey read the sign .they know that: they are"near" .the motel.,' MR. HASS: That sign at ,Cchiefers we sneaked .up for two weeks without .'a permit and .I can. show-you iri ;the. books that it increased• business.. MR. ROSENBE'RG: You were advertising .the motel at that. point. MR.. HASS: They saw my sign though. MR. ROSENBERGa There is a, difference .between an' advertising sign and a directional sign."' CH.AI_RMAN:. Do youexpect to' put 'another .sign between this location and themotel? MR. EISEN; I hate a lot of signs. Cluttering the road with signs looks terrible. This should have' been taken care of years ago. However9 two or three signs is all that is needed. Mr. Hass 'is .in the, proces.s of building up his business and it' needs to be built up. CHAIRMAN: How many, circulars do you plan to send out? MR. IT-ASS: 6000 to 7000 circulars to prospective customers CHAIIIMAN: How many people can you accomodate? MR% HASS: I -have 36 units (Ivlr. Rosenberg explained that the number of directional signs to be permitted shoiild, be placed in strategic places. ) Resolution was offered .by Mr. Bergen, ' seconded by Mr®. Grigonis and carried, AREAS' application of Helmut, Hass, for Southold Town Beach Motel, having been considered at kiblic Hearing No. 208 on August 27, 1959 and continued` to September 37 1959, and the Board finding that the public convenience and Southold- TMM Board 'of Appeals September 3 , :059 welfare and. justice will be , served, and the legally established or permitted use of neighborhood property will not be substantially or permanently injured and. the spirit of the Ordinance would .be observed, therefore be it RESOLVED that the application .be granted- providing- sign is . located at least 30 ft. , from: the Schiefer property line at the , ' intersection of Bowery ,Lan.e and North Road and three feet from other property lines. Vote of the, Board:. Ayes Mr. , Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr® Grigonis® The Chairman then read Appeal Now 209 which is as follows 7:50 P;M. (E.D.S.T.) 2 ,upon application' of Helmut Hass , for Southold To1an Beach.Motel,: North Road., Southold 9 ' New York, for a special exception in accordance with, the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, .Section 300, Subsection -117 for permission to erect and maintain a directional advertising' sign on the property ... of Ernest. C. ,'Tuthi'll, south side Middle Road, Mattituck9 New York. Fee- paid $15.00;. CHAIRMAN; Is there 'anyone present` who .wishes to speak for this .application? MR® HAS,S: I.'Wish .to say the same as before, to'- direct people going to the motel. •CHAIRTaN: How many directional, signs -clo you think you.need on the North Road? MR. HASS: We have to get known and have to. have signs. for people to ' get acquainted vith,, the location of the motel. From Mattituck to, the motel. I would like to get five or, six. signs They will .only be .up for the,- season,: ,from, bout April to December. CHAIRMAN: In the matter ` of the sign on. the property of Ernest Tuthill .we will continue the hearing ,'for four weeks, which will be,.06t6ber ,hste Resolution was offered by Mrr 'Bergen, seconded 'by Mr. Rosenberg and carried, continuing this hearing until. October 1, 7-959 Vote of the Board: .Ayes,:— Mr. G llispie, Mr. Bergen, I11r. Rosenberg, -and- Mr.' . Grigonis® Southold Town Board of Appeals September 3, -1959 The Chairman then read Appeal 'No. 210 which is .as follows: 8:00 P.M. (E.D.S.T.) 2 upon application:' of Helmut Hass, for Southold - Town .Beach Motel North, Road, ?outhold, New York, for a special exception in acco�•dance with .the Zoning. ,Ordinance, Article III' Section 300yu'ose�ctian 11, for permission to erect and maintain a directioi���: cdvertising. sign on, the prop- erty of Mary. Py1ko so-u_th side; "'o-did 'Avenue 9 Mattituck; : New. . York. Fee paid y�1�.00. CHAIR /LET:. Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for this application? MR. HA SS* I really need that ,one at the -Pylkp., pr,operty.. I want to get ,them on to' 27As ..' Iva. RC9 °NBERG Don't you think that' 'is a poor place Don't you think the sign-should be before.. the ,Pap.pish-,building, before you come t' the turn? 'The 'sign could read "straight ahead, bear left. " (The above suggestion was discussed 'at length and Mr Hass decided he would place the. sign .closer to the -Lappish building, at the most westerly end of the Pylka property.) Resolution was offered by Mr. Rosenberg, seconded by Mr® Bergen and carried' WHF,REAS application of Helmut Hass.' .for. Southold To Motel' having been consideredd 'at' public Hearing No. 210 on August 27,. 1959' and continue to Septeiber 3 , 1959' and the Board finding that the public convenience and welfare and justice will be served aild the legally established or permitted use of neighborhood property will_ not be ' substantially, or permanently injured and the spirit, of the Ordinance would b e . . observed, therefore be RESOLVED, that permission is granted .for. location of the sign on '.the Pylko property, restricting .location to an area within 100 ft. of the easterly- line of land- of Papish,, and not closer than three feet -to any property line. . Vote of the Board: Ayes:! Mr. Gillispie, Mr® Bergen] Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonise The Chairman read Appeal No. 211 of as follows: 8:10 P.M. .(E.D.S.T.) , upon application of Helmut Hass y for Southold Town Beach Motel, North Road, Southold' New York? fora special exception in' accordance with the. Zoning Ordin- ance Article IVg Section 1+08, for permission to erect and Southold Totim Board of Appeals �b.- September. 3 , 1959 maintain a directional advertising sign on. the property of the Shell service Station, Ted Wells, - Proprietor, ' north side Hamilton Avenue and west side. Wickham Avenue'. Mattituck, New York. Fee paid $15.000 CHAIRMAN.: The owner of ,the property has advised that' he does not wish 'a, sign erected, there*; MR. HASS: I will try to ;get another location near there. Resolution was' offered .by Mr® Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Rosenberg and carried, JH=AS application. of Helmut Hass, for. . Southold Town Beach Mote having been considered �at 'Publia Hearing No. 211 on Augus 27,, 1959, and continued to September 3 , 1959,, and the Board f indfng .that the public convenience and welfare and justice 'will' not be served and the legally estab� fished or permitted use of- neighborhood property will be sub stantially or permanently injured and, the 'spirit of the Ordinance will not be observed, therefore be it RF30LVED7 that permission is denied. Vote of the. Board: Ayes-- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. . Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr.- Grigonis. - The Chairman then read.' Appeal No. 21: which is as follows: $:20 P.M. (E.-D.S.T.) i upon application of Helmut Haws; for Southold Toim Be6ch ..Mote19 North Road, 'Southold, New York, .for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, . Section .300, Subsection I1, . for permission to erect and maintain a directional advertlsing ' sign on the property of Joseph Sawicki, south side North Road, Southold, .New York. Fee paid $15.000 : CHAIRMAN . , The 'owner of, the property has reconsidered and . does not wish a sign erected on his .front 1awx.. Resolution offered by Mr. Rosenberg seconded by Mr. Bergen and carried, I,EMREA.S appl-i cation of Helmut Hass., for Southold Torn Beach Motel, having been eon,�idored at Public Hearing No. 212' on August 27,-. i959, and continued to. September 3; 1959 ,. and the Board finding that the . public conveinierb and welfare and justice will not be served, and 'the legally established or permitted use of neighborhood property will -be substantially or permanently .injured .and the spirit of. the .0rdinarm will not- be' observed, therefore be -it RESOLVID that the application be denied because, it is Southold To-vm Board of Appeals -71 September '3, 1959 not believed to be in, the best interests' of .the Town of Southold to locate' a directional advertising sign on residential property, such as that of .Mr Joseph Sawicki. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillis pie Nir. Bergen' 9 Mr.. Rosenberg-' ;and Mir. Grigonis. , The Board of Appeals discussed and approved the following recommended procedure upon application for special exceptions for signs: . The following resolution was offered by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis and carried` S. I G `N RECOMIvENDEJ PROCEDUiE Due to increase in motel ' and restaurant enterprises the following requirements should be met by applicants seeking directional signs An accurate' sketch of property showing highway .and adjoining properties to 'nearest intersection with exact location of proposed ,signs with sketch, size, wording. Written peg°mission by oimer of property for .erection of directional sign as well' as completed appli.cat:ion :for sign permit together with fees. This '!guidancef1 supersedes former suggested procedure as notedin minutes of May 22, . 1958. Directional. signs .for places of amusement will no longer be permitted. Dated: September 3, 1_959. Vote of the Board:. Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, 'Mr. Rosenberg' and Mr.Grigonis. On motion of. Mr. Bergen; seconded by Mr. Rosenberg, and carried, it_was RESOLVED that time and place . be set for hearing upon application :of Louis Zarzecki9 Orchard ,Stree�t, Orient, New York, for, .a variaAce. in accordance .with the Zoning Ordinance, jj,rti.cle TIT, Section 303 , and Article X.Q. iSectioh-. 1000A, for permission .to reduce frontage and use as a single lot, property located on the west side Oyster Ponds Lane, Oriefit, New York, Southold .Town Board. of Appeals :September 3, 1959 and. bounded north .by N. A. Luce, east .by Oyster Ponds Lane, south by Fernando Jiminez; and.. west by. Annie Wysocki. Time and place _being set .for 7.30 P.M.) (E®D.S.T.) '. Thursday, September 171" 19591 Town Clerk's. Offices Main Road, Southold, `New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie,. Mr. Bergen) Mr. R6senberg9 and Mr. "Grigonis. . By.resoluti on offered by Mr. Grigonis,, 'seconded by Mr. Bergen and , carried 7:45 P.M. (E.D.SOT.) 9 was set ,on- Thursday, September .17) 1959, Tom' Clerkts Office ' Main Road, Southold, New York', for time and place for hearing upon application -of. ViC tor. Lessard, .Wickham Avenue.' a/c :Mary 0. MacNi sh, Z^lestphali a. . Road' Matti-tuck, .New .York, for a v arlance in. accordance' with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III' Section 3071 . for ,permission 'to reduce side yard on.. property,.located at"`east ,side, Westphalia Road, Mattituck9 New York' and.--bounded- north by �ec� _'Olmstead east by Mattituck Creek, south .by William Satterly, and 'west by' Westphalia Road.. Vote of .the Board: Ayes. Mr. 'Gillis.pie', NIr. .Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg' and Mr. Grigonis. On motion of Mr. Ros:enberg�, seconded .by Mr. ,.Grigonis and. 'carri0 . Thursday,''September 17, 19597 8:00 -P.14.1 (E.D.S.T.) ,. at .the Town-C lerk t s Office, Main.Road, Southold, New. York, 'was- set for- hearing upon application of Helmut Hass': Main -Roady, Greenport' New York, for a variance, in accordance with the-- Zoning Zoning Ordinance; Article IVY Section 1-05� for, permission .to reduce front yard setback from established setback line. Lo- cation of property, south side North Road, Southold, New York,:,, bounded north by North Road; " east by other lands 'of the appli-, cant, south by other lands of-.the- ' applicant, and west .by Henry Wenzel® , Vote of the Board. Ayes: Mr. .Gillispie; Mr. • Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis. . It was further RESOLVED that legal notice of hearing be published in the :official newspaper .on date of .September 11, 1959� Vote of the Board: " A.yes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr., Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. " Grigonis.' The application of Lewis N. Griffin, .Bay Avenue,. Mattituck, Now York was received. Mr. Griffin"s application applied for a special exception ,under 'Ar.ticle. -IB, _:Section 4bO, Subsection 9 which reads as follows .."Public garages or automobile- service Southold Town Board of Appeals 9- September 3 , 1959 stations when approved as a special exception by the Board of Appeals as hereinafter provided." Mr. Griffin wishes to have a public garage and automobile service station; therefore it was RESOLVED by Tfs. Rosenberg , seconded by Mr_ . Bergen and carried y that application be ordered published in the official newspaper excluding "two gasoline pumps" on _line two, and "sale of fuel would be incidental to -this operation" paragraph three, line two, as not complying with the Ordinance. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie , Kr. Bergeny Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Bergen© 7 30 P®M. (E.D.S 9T .) , upon application of Lewis N. Griffin, Bay Avenue,, igattituck, New York' for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance , Article IV, Section 400, Subsection 9, for permission to use and maintain premises as a public garage. Location of property, Mattitudk, New York, bounded north by SoundAvenue and Railroad, east by Pacific street, south by noz,. or formerly of Clara Benjamin, and west by now or formerly of 5. Bo Hamilton. Hearing.,to be held Thursday, September 24, 1959, Town Clerk's OfTice, Southoid,. Vote of the Board: ' Ayes:- ir. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr.. Grigonis. It was further RESOLVED -that legal notice of hearing be published in the official newspaper on date of September 187 1959. Vote of the Board: Ayes Mr. Gillispie, 1%r. Bergen, Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis. The Board of .:appeals briefly discussed t'he proposed Sand Pit Ordinance for -the Town of Southold Meeting adjourned at 10:35 PnM. Respec'tf ully submitted, ith T. Boken, Secretary 3. t �puca . _ Ca