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Southold Town Board ®f Appeals
SOUTHOLD, L. L, N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Herbert Rosenberg
Charles Gregonis,Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
MINUTES
Southold Town Board of Appeals
December g, 1959
A regular meeting of the- -Southold TownBoard ,of -
Appeals was held 7:30 P.M., Wednesdays December 9'' 19599
at the Town Clerk Office, Main Road, Southold' New York.
There were present: Messrs. Robert W: Gillispie ' Jr. ,
Chairman; Robert Bergen, Herbert Rosenberg, and Charles
Grigonis, Jr.
Also present: Mr. Howard M. Terry, Building Inspector.
Absent: Mr. Serge Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC HKARING: 7:30 P.M., Appeal No. 239. - Upon
application of Geririaro 'Ma.neri,- Pike and Maple Avenue'
Mattituck; New York, -for a variance in- accordance' with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 300, Subsection
7, for permission 'to locate 'private -garage- with- reduced
setback. Location of' property: south side Pike Street-
and west side Maple Avenue, Mattitucki New,York, bounded
north-by Pike Street' east 'by Maple Avenue; - south by H. R.
Reeve, and west by E. Pike. Flee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing 'by reading notice of
disapproval issued by the Building Inspector, application
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for a' variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavit attest-
ing to its publication in the official newspaper.
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR.- GENNARO MANERI, pike and Maple 'Averiue, Matt ituck,
New York: I wish to speak for myself and answer any questions.
CHAIRMAN: These pictures here are of your house and
property?
(Mr. Maneri identified the pictures appearing in the
file. )
(Mr. Howard .M. Terry,' Building Inspector stepped forward
and further explained the pictures and proposed location of
the garage. )
MR. MANERI: The roadway in front of my house is supposed
to be 56 ft. ,- but the paved part is all on one side which is
the side across the street. There' is 18 ft, of undeveloped
roadway in front of my house and another 18 ft. from there to
the house itself.
CHAIRMAN: What is the setback of other houses on the
street?
MR.' TERRY: There is only one on -this side of the street
at the end of the road that is further back.
CHAIRMAN: How much land is on the garage side?
I1R. MANFRI: The land is 225 ft. bdek''all together.
From where I-want to put the garage there will 'be 18 ft. on
Maple Avenues and that is what my house is now.
CHAIRMAN: You say the hardship here is the cesspool
location?
MR. MANERI; -Two cesspools, and the grape vines and the
slope of the land. The land falls off to the southQ The
grape vines I have spent eight or nine years raising.
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak for this application? Is there anyone present who
wishes to speak against this application? Does anyone wish
to ask Mr., ivianeri any questions?
(There was no response. )
Resolution was offered by Mr. Rosenberg, seconded by
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Mr. Bergen, and carried, it AS Appeal No. 239 having been
considered at Public Hearing No. 239 on December 9, 1959 and
the Board finding that strict application -of the Ordinance
would produce' und ue hardship because by placing the garage ,
back 50 ft.-it would be directly over one of the cesspools,
also the land slopes considerably to the south, making ' the-
proposed- location on the' most level- portion of the lot. The
situation is unique and would not 'be shared by all properties
alike .in the immediate vicinity because this ' is a corner lot
which had,beenz built on prior to the adoption of the Zoning
Ordinance, and the location of the cesspools make it almost
impossible to -comply with present legulations. The public
convenience and welfare and justice will be substantially
served and the legally established or permitted use of neigh-
borhood property and adjacent use districts would not be -
substantially or permanently injured and the spirit of the
Ordinance would be observed because the'setbdek of this
garage' would 'genefally confcrm,to the setback of other
structures in the neighborhood, therefore be it
RESOLVED that the' application' be granted as applied for
because the Board feels the hardships do exist which justify .
granting this application.
Vote of the Boards Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr, Rosenberg, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: 7:40 P:M., Appeal ,No-. '240 Upon
application of LeRoyTuthill, Main 'Road' Mattituck' New York,
for a special exception- iri accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article' IV, Section 408, and Article VII,' -Section 703A, for -
permission to erect three (3) portable -grouhd signs on premises -
of ESSO"S;ervice ,Statiori', corner of Main Road and Wickham Avenue,
Mattituck, New York. Pee paid $15.00.
Mr. Robert Bergen disqualified himself from sitting on
the Board for this hearing.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading..a.pplicatiori
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for a' special exception, lega notice of hearing, and affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper.
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
Mr. Terry stated Article 'VII was stated incorrectly 'in
the legal notice as VIII. The Board agreed this would in
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no way affect the hearing of this application.
MR. WILLIAM' WICKHAM'' Attorney for Mr. Tuthill' Mattituck,
New York: I do not know whether you have had' any of' these'
before you- before to have seta precedent or not. - We realize
what is said' and-done here - tonight'not only is effective as to
this gas station, but any others in Southold Town. It is not
a question of location of permanent signs or location of any
buildings' it is' niore, I think a question of iierchandising9
not only frommnth to month but 'from week- to' week" and' day to'
day. I do not- think there is - do.question as to''how this matter
came up in this particular instance It has been known for some
time that the "gas stations in Riverhead 'Town 'and I guess beyond
have- been cutting prices and a lot of transient trade has gone
there.
CHAIRMAN: In the summer time?
MR W ICIMM: I know-my man has mentioned it for some time.
I am just bringing this 'up, as to how it came' about. Gas station
business, I think you know' a very high percentage is transient.
MR. LeROY TUTHILL, Mattituck; New' York; brought out the
fact if a station has been selling 3000 gal' ' a 'month, in the
summer time'he might pump 10,000 or 'maybe 8600. - Now with many
people working in Riverhead and Calverton when they see a price
cut they buy gas up there and therefore the local dealers suffer.
CHAIRMAN: What did you pump in July and August, if I might
ask?
MR': TUTHILL: Comparable to''the figures just mentioned with-
out a sign indicating a price cut-. If permitted, I will use
regular uniform signs which can be read, readable signs.
M*' WICY11AMo Mr. Tuthill put out his sign which apparently
was in violation. ' 'Of- course, as' mentioned 'in the applications
in this -particular section you do see considerable advertising
across the street.
CHAIRMAN: You mean behind the windows?
MR. WICKELAM ' YesThat is just the point, I know you do
not have any control over that.
CHAIRMAN: But that is not competition in the product.
MR. WICHHAM: However; Bohack's has antifreeze for sale.
You have' a question of limited 'advertising in this" field and
unlimited advertising in 'another field in the exact locality.
The question is how far you should go and what is orderly
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advertising. - These people in the service station business
in order to advertise aritifreeze, 'if there is a price situation,
they like to advertise the price and any fill 'in accessories'
they handled I do not know how they are going to effectually
carry out this- advertising unless they have some sort of
transient or spot sign.
THE CHAIRMAN: When you say that you mean FS.SO?
MR.- WICKHAM: We have to go back again to the fact this
is' a transient business and 'they have to have some means to
catch the eye 'of- the public. ' You do not necessarily need such
r_signs as Chevron Flying Ho, se. , or ESS�O, - etc. 9 you have to go
further than that. 'They cannot-do it by window display or
through the mails or newspapers, they have to have spot
advertising.
MR. HOWARD M. TERRY, 'Building -Inspector: This has nothing
to do with being for or - against this appeal, but this station
is one of the few stations that has been authorized and built
since the Ordiriance 'went into effect, limiting signs, etce that
the gas stations have. Most of the gas stations have been in
business for years and do have these signs which are non-con
forming. I had to give Mr. Tuthill a violation as he did not
have them before acid had- no possibility of- getting them until
a special exception is applied for and granted.
MR. ROSENBERG:- Might I interrupt, and ask you whether you
are speaking for or against this?
MR. TERRY: Neither, that is just for the record.
MR. R'OSENBERGs Mr. Wickham, you are aware that on June
25th of this year 1959 they were granted a 'special exception
through the agency of Mr. Dunathan representing 13SSO who'
appeared here on June '25th and asked for a special exception-
for another sign other than those permitted in the Ordinance,
that the sign he -was asking' for and was granted was the 'only' '
. sign he would ask for, and stated- they opposed -any other signs.
That is the sign on the west end of the' station. That was his
persuasive argument that that was the only other sign they
wished.
MR. WICIMMs J do not know if he specified this type of
sign or permanent signs.
MR. ROSENBERGIF This is' 'one- of the nicest stations that
we have around here. There is an ESSO station here in Southold
and they do not go in 'for those signs. -I attended a seminar
Saturday where a Shell representative gave a talk and they
are opposed to these small signs. , The representative- of the
Shell Company stated that the only additional advertising they
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would like to have would be something for eight or ten days
on an opening of a station.
MPL.' WICIMM: I dare 'say they would be the first to
howl if business fell off.
MR. ROSENBERG: In Huntington it 'is forbidden to put
up there signs. I myself thought you had a very beautiful
station there.
THE 'CHAIRMAN: The representative of Shell also pointed
out"that he thought that any regulations bearing on' advertising
should beneither more nor less restrictive to a service station
than a Board of Appeals 'would be to any' other 'business in-
al.-business area; not to 'single out gasoline- service stations for
any special treatment. In other words2 what is' done in con-
nection with gas stations advertising should apply to any other
business on the same section.
Is' there anyone else present who wishes to speak for this
application? Is there anything anyone would care to add? Are
there any questions anyone would like to ask of Mr. Tuthill
or Wickham?
Inr order to clarify what you do want, you are asking for
three portable standing signs?
MR. TUTI3ILL: One that might be car wash' oil change' etc.
A lot of people do not look into the station 'to see what is on
the windows. With thEise' signs' near the "sidewalk it will catch
their attention to any specialK we might be having.
CHAIRMAN: - Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: I would like- to-- ask Mr.- Wickham if a special
exception were granted for this purpose of portable signs, the
same thing would create a precedent which would extend over the
whole area of Southold Town, unless he can otherwise explain.
MR. WICICUM4 Maybe the Ordinance did riot contemplate' this
particular think. The Ordinance is pretty general. This is
just as general as you can get.
THE CHAIRMAN: The policy, of the Board has- been, you might
say adamant a's far as signs are' concerned: The oomething we are
backed on is signs and as' I have ofteri 'mentioned in hearings in
connection 'with sign applications, we have had as many as 500
names against a particular sign.
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Is there anyone else present who wishes to say any-
thing on this?
MR. ROSENBERG: 'As you can' gather from things I have said
I am opposed to this. When this station was originally proposed
there was a great deal of opposition to it' and some of the persuasive
reasoning was the type' of station to be put up arid" I was in favor
of it and I believein -the photographs and sketches and the ESSO
People did just exactly as' they said they would do, and the
people in Mattituck were in favor of it.
MR TUTHILL: I want to do this on my own, this has nothing
to do with ESSO itself.
MR: WICK[iAM: This is still a summer section as far as
retailing. The people seem staisfied to stay the way they are.
MMR. TUTHILL: That is because they already have their signs.
MR.- R OSENBERG: All I can say as far as your station is
concerned; the special exception was granted and maybe there
are conditions that warrant A- change"in the conditions that were
in the first time, but I do not see them.
THE CHAIRMAN: I can sympathize with your position, as' what
the ESSO people said to us on the-occasion of applying for this
is of no interest to you but a handicap at this point.
MR: WICK[3AM: - I still maintaii that that position is dis-
criminatory where perhaps- 90% of the stations can advertise as
they want. I feel Mr. Tuthill should be treated on the same basis.
MR. ROSENBERGs We did authorize several stations but with
the usual conditions of three- signs. ` Your station has four
signs because of the conditions 'of trees; corner, etc. The
stations that have been authorized have not been given any other
privileges than '-any other business. This particular location I
feel very strongly about.
THE CHAIRMAN: If there is nothing further to add we will
close the hearing at this point and give it further deliberation
by the Board later this evening.
On,motion of Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr: Rosenberg and
carried, WHEREAS application-of 'LeRoy Tuthill having been con-
sidered 'at Public Hearing No. 24-0 on December 9, 19592 and the
Board findir_g that the public convenience and welfare and justice
will not be served and the legally established or permitted use
of neighborhood property will be substantially or permaneritly
injured -and the spirit of the Ordinance will not be observed,
therefore be it
RESOLVED that the application be denied because the Board
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feels that it is- 'not a proper function of the Board of Appeals
to vary the Zoning- regulations ln"'order to equalize business-
competition' and also becau:se ' the granting' 'of this application
would be contrary to all previous decisions relative to signs.
In- addition, on 'June 25, 19599 because of visi- lity
conditions on this street do additional business-sign was
permitted over and above -the usual number of three (3 )
permitted- on a- business corner-. At -the time of the public
hearing upon application to construct the service station,
which was completed about July 1, 19599 the ESSO representative
stated the permitted signs would be' sufficient. However' the
company later found a need for an 'additional standing sign and
was granted same. The 'sate reasoning prevails today as it did
at the time of granting .the original application for the con-
struction of the station. A fine modern service station is an
asset to this important shopping area and it' has proven so. No
other station erected -since the establishment of the Ordinance
has other than the permitted signs and a great many of the non-
conforming service stations have removed the so called "illegal"
signs of their own volition.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Rosenberg,
and Mr. Grigonis. 'Mr. Bergen not voting as he disqualified
himself from sitting on the Board for this hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING: 8:00 P.M.-9 Appeal No. 241 - Upon appli-
cation- of Floyd Houston, a/c Goldsmith and Tuthill, Youngs
Avenue, Southold, New Yorks for a variance in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article V, Section 503 for permission
to reduce side yard setback on side of property bounded by
railroad right-of-way. Location: of property: 'west side Youngs
AveniB , Southold, New York' bounded- north by L. I. Produce and
Fertilizer. Co. , east by Youngs Avenue, south by Railroad, and
west by Long Island Produce and Fertilizer Co. Fee paid 815.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading notice of dis-
approval- issued by the Building Inspector,- application for a
variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting to
its publication in the official newspaper.
CHAIRMAN: I think that all of the Board is thoroughly
familiar with the location, we have all bean over there and
looked at it.
Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for this
application.
MR. FLOYD HOUSTON, New Suffolk, New York: When I put that
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plant in 12 or 13 years ago that triangular -section which,you
see on your little plan was of no use 'to us. The four 10 000
gal. storage tanks were put in the corner at - that time with the
expectation that *we would expand to the west. We are now plan-
ning to put in two 15,000 storage tanks, 30,000 more storage in
the event of a' break down-of transportation and. I would like to
have them up in the air so in the -case of power failure we
could' get fuel-. We would also like to build a garage and office
sometime in the future and I have the plans here. (Mr. Houston
produced plans for the Board to see. ) We would like to have the
two tanks as we have the only storage around this area. The
present tanks which are underground are about 2 ft. from the
line, however, 'these will be much further, 6 'or 8 ft. further
because the tanks are not as long as those in the ground.
THE CHAIRMAN: How long are the tanks?
MR. HOUSTON: They are 10 ft. - long by 25 ft. in diameter.
Usually these tanks are painted aluminum.
XHAIRMAN: (referring to sketch) Is the fence on your line?
MR. HOUSTON: I am quite sure it is on the line. I believe
the property line is the fence. My line to the railroad is
242- ft.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are you going to abandon the railroad siding?
M. HOUSTON: No, that will be retained, because at some
time it might be necessary to bring fuel in by tank car.
THE CHAIRMAN: How thick are those slabs?
MR. HOUSTON: Heavy enough to take the biggest transport
trucks.
THE CHAIRMAN: As I understand the reason for putting them
up ih' the air is in case of a power failure?
M. HOUSTON: We "have had power failures, also 'in case of
a brddk down in our own equipment or bong Island Lighting and so
forth.
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to speak
for this- application? Is there anyone present who wishes to ask
Mr. Houston any questions about the application?
Your only reason for putting them in the air, as I under-
stand it, is because of these slabs and the power failure?
MR. HOUSTON: And it is much less expensive.
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THE- CHAIRMAN: I hear it is' about half a dozen of one and
six' of another of a question of deterioration on a tank you put
above or below the ground.
MR. HOUSTON: You can' also load a truck faster with a gravity
feed than you can with pumps.
MR. BERG-EN: I do not see how you can pump faster with
them above ground. I maintain it can be done just as fast when
they are under ground.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think it would be much more 'desirable if
they did not stick up in the air. They would be visible from
the Main Road.
MR. H OUSTON: I have one up in the air at New Suffolk
which I, painted red and it had been aluminum and most people
thought they would see 'it but they do not see it very much.
They could be painted green.
THE CHAIRMAN: I talked to one man today who lives near
to tanks and he said nobody else wants to live near -there. As
I understand it' there is going to be some effort -made to
improve that area a bit. i believe across- the street is a
residence and there is some intention of the Long Island Rail-
road abandoning that station. Also the hardware store across
the street is 'not in "use 'and I have heard -there is- some plan
to perhaps have a modern shopping center in that area and it
would be directly opposite your place. Further'looking into
the future' I would like to see them down rather than up. I
would be in favor of granting this variance provided you agree
to place the tanks undergrouund so that' they are not an eye sore.
Also there is some hazard"involved in overhead tanks rather than
having their in the ground. We were told Saturday by a Shell
executive that the safety feature as far as tanks being under-
ground were minimum: 'risks and the only places which are less are
churches ' and taverns, etc. are more of a risk' than gas stations.
From the hazard angle they are safer underground.
MR. HOUSTON: Gasoline' yes. These are fuel oil tanks.
I would not put gas in the air. Is it a difficulty of being
unsightly?
THE' CHAIRMAN. To s!ne extent I would say so, I do not
know what the rest of the Board would say.
MR. HOUSTON: What if I put them out 30 ft.?
THE CHAIRMAN: The Board has no control over them if
you located these tanks in the -air or up to 50 'ft. is long
as they are 30 ft. from the railroad right-of-way. What I
was concerned about; in the- interest of Southold and- the
people who live around" here, that with a plan afoot to improve
the area, to put a couple of tanks of that size up in the air
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at that point would be the first thing people coming into
Town would see.
ER. HOUSTON: Suppose I inquire as to the cost of putting
them into the ground?
THE CHAIRMAN: We would postpone decision in this matter
and continue the hearing until a later date.
MR. GRIGONIS: I Would rather see them in the ground. I
feel that way about all tanks.
MR. BERGEN: My opinion is that a truck can be loaded
just as fast from a ground feed and I would 1'i_k_e to see them
in the ground. My tanks are in the ground and I have a 4 in.
feed line.
MR. ROSENBERG-: First of all the tanks that you have now
are a non-conforming installation that would not be permitted
if they were to be put in now. -You have a right, without
consulting us, to put them anywhere on the property providing
they are 30 ft. away from the railroad and any street. I
do not know anything that you have said so far, from my point
of view' that gives -us a legal point. There' is no unnecessary
or unusual hardship. You wish to 'utilize' your land to the
best advantage. That is not a legal hardship. Nor is this at
all a unique situation.
MR. HOUSTON: That would be the most efficient location.
MR. ROSENBERG: To your advantage. I am waiting for
you to tell us of any hardship. You must prerxent ' a hard-
ship. The onlyhardship for you is to- be most advantageous.
That is a personal hardship. - From my- point of view, from
my position on the Board, you will have to produce a hard-
ship and a unique situation.
THE CHAIRMAN: The purpose of as hearing is to produce
additional information. You did bring out the fact there are
concrete slabs.
MR. HOUSTON:' As far as the' west end of the property is
concerned there is a sump there which drains all of that,
area. Where the other part of the property is concerned,
we have a non-conforming situation there and If I can not
put anything in there, then the property is useless to me.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to have °this hearing continued
to a later date so that I may get a price on putting the tanks
underground.
On motion of Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Bergen, and
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carried, it was
RESOLVED to continue this hearing until December 23 , 1959•
Vote of the Board: Ayes:* ' Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: 8:20 P.M.9 Appeal No. 242 - Upon appli-
cation of Nelson Axien, Box 3 52, Peconic, New York, for a
variance in- accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, 'Article III,
Section 3031- and Article X, Section 1000A. Variance- is also
requested due to lack of access in accordance with Mate of
new York Town law; Section 280A. - Location of 'property: north
side Private Road, off Mill Road, Peconic, New York, bounded
nor th by LongIsland Sound, -east by other lands of the appli-
cant, south'by right-of-way, and west by G. Hipwell. Fee
paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading notice of
disapproval issued by the Building Inspector, application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing with affidavit attest-
ing to its publication in the official newspaper.
CHAIRiIIAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. NELSON AXIEN Peconic,* New York: I have a chance
to sell this house ands lot on one half of the property on
which' I built it in the first place in 1947 and the buyer
does not want the entire property and I would like' to sell
the house and use the other 'one -half of the property for
myself to build a home. Mr. Van Tuyl has divided the property
in half for me and the dimensions are on the sketch you have
in the file and a legal description is also there.
MR. ROSENBERG: What does that make each piece, about
one half acre plots?
MR. AXIEN: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: As I understand you wish to build 'a house
on the remaining lot' for yourself. How will you locate the
house, will that require side yard variances?
MR. AXIEN: There is enough to put a house in there
without requesting a variance.
THE CHAIRMAN : Is there anyone else present who wishes
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to speak for this application? Is there anyone present who
wishes to speak against this application?
(There was no response. )
MR: ROSENBERG: Is that the same access all the other
people up 'there use?
MR. AXIEN: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: How wide is the access road?
MR. AXIEN: 33 ft.
THE CHAIRMAN: That is not a Town road?
MR. AXIENs No, a 'private road® It continues down in
the same direction, turns left at Autumn Lake and goes along
to a Town road.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does that road have a name?
MR. AXIEVi : No.
CHAIRMAN: Is there" anyone else present who has any-
thing to say for or against this application?
(There vas no response. )
Resolution was offered by Mr: Bergen, seconded by Mr
Gri.gonis , and carried, WHEREAS application of Nelson Axien,
having 'been considered at Public Hearing' No. 21+2- on December
91 1959, and the Board finding that the strict application
of the Ordinance would produce undue hardship because appli-
cant constructed the present house far to"one side of the
lot in 1947 with the intention of building a second house
on the other side of' 'the lat in the future. The situation
is unique and. would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity because this is the only oversized lot
in the area. Other lots have less than 100 'ft. frontage. The
public convenience and welfare and justice will be substantially
served and the legally established or permitted use of neibh-
borhoodaproperty and adjacent use- districts would not be -
substantially or permanently injured and the rspirlt of the
Ordinance would be observed because applicant intends to
build a dwelling in donformance with neighborhood dwellings
and -locate same between 150 and 175 ft. from the right-of-way,
therefore be it
RESOLVED that the' 'application be granted because the
Board feels it would be an undue hardship to prohibit the
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division of this property which amounts to about an acre
because of undersized frontage. Recognition of present
access road which proceeds in a westerly-direction from Mill.
Road at Goldsmith Inlet is 'also approved. In building on
the remaining portion of the property, specifically the east-
erly lot after the division' it is agreed that -applicant will
not request side ,yard variances on any residence constructed.
Description--Nelson Axien lot adjoining Hipwell. This
is the lot upon which is located the dwelling which Mr. Axien
proposes to sell:
Beginning at the southwesterly corner thereof at a point
on the northerly line of a 33 ft. right-of-way, said point of
beginning being the southeasterly cornier of land previously
conveyed by Nelson Axien to 'John 'F. Renhan (now Hi'pwell) ;
from. said point of beginriing-'running thence along said land
previously 'conveyed by Nelson Axien to John F. Renahan
N.31o20tW--300 feet more or less, to the ordinary high water
mark- of-Long Island Sound; thence easterly along said high
water mark- of Long Island Sound; 75 feet, more or less; thence
running along land of Nelson Axien parallel with' the westerly
boundary of the premises herein described -arid 72.45 feet easterly
from said westerly.. boundary, measured at' right angles thereto,
S.31020eE. '310 feet' more or less, to said northerly line of
said 33 ft. right-of-ways thence 'along said northerly line of said
33 ft- right-of-way S.82b49tW.-79.40 feet to the point of begin-
ning.
Description--Nelson. Axien lot adjoining Birchard® This
is the lot Mr. Axien intends to retain and build a dwelling on.
Beginning at a point on the northerly lire of a certain
33 ft. right-of-way over land of' Nelson Axien, said point of
beginning being N.82049tE.-344.40 feet along said northerly
line from the easterly boundary 'of land formerly of Floyd Vail
(now Williamson) ; from said- poirit of beginning running along
land of Nelson Axien parallel Frith the westerly boundary of land
previously conveyed by- Nelson Axien to Burt G. Lewis (now
Birchard) , 72.44 feet westerly from said westerly boundary
measured at right angles thereto, N-31o201W.-310 feet, more or
less, to the ordinary high water mark 'of Long Island Sound;
thence easterly along said high water mark of 'Long Island
Sound9' 75 feet; more or less to said land previously conveyed
by Nelson Axien to Burt G.� Lewis; thence along said land
previously 'conveyed by Nelson Axien to Burt G- I;ewis
S.31020'E.-300 feet, more or 1ess7 to said northerly line
of said 33 ft." rig4t®of-way; thence along said northerly
line of said' 33. ft. ri ht=of=way, 2 courses, as follows:
(1) S:67°50t30"W:-66.09 -feet; thence
(2) S.82049iW.--7.90 feet to the point of beginning.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -15- December 9, 1959
Vote of 'the Board: Ayes Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. ,Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: 8:40 P.M, , Appeal No-* 243 -,Upon
application of Midgley and Horton, a/c Fritz Kohn,' 'Cutchogue,
New York, for a variance in accordance 'with the Zoning Ordin-
ance, Article III, Section 304, as' -referred to in Article IV,
Section 400, Subsection 1' for permission to' reduce- front -yard
setback for a residential dwelling in a business district.
Variance is also 'requeste'd due ,to lack of access in' accordance
with State of New York Toiun Law, Section 280A. Vocation of
property: Private Road, east side Old Harbor Lane, New
Suffolk, New= York,' bounded north by H. E. Mason, east by
Private Road; south by H. H. Tuthill, and west by Canal.
Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading- notice of.
disapproval- issued by the building Inspector, application
for a variance, legal notice 'of hearing with affidavit
attesting mto its publication in the official newspaper.
THE CHAIRMAN° Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak for this application?
MR. WILLIAM WICIHAM, Mattituck, New York- I do not
think I can add much to the application; I believe you have
a sketch there. They have more than ample space on the Creek
side and plenty on the north and south sides. The sketch will
show the developed area a little more fully. The lots are not
very deep. Three of them have a width of 150 ft. As stated
in the application, this - is the- only residence here. Mr. Mason
to the north only has docking space.
CHAIRMAN: How much closer would you be than the existing
line which is established by the existing dwelling?
MR. ROSENBERG: There was . a trailer there: The present
house will be' the -dining room of the new house. The present
house is 27 ft. from the right-of-way.
CHAIRMAN: Will the porch have a roof on it?
MR. WILLIAM S. MIDGLEY, JR. : Yes.
(The Board discussed the sketch appearing in the file.
CHAIRMAN: Across the street is a boat house?
Southold Town Board of Appeals -16- December 9, 1959
MR. MIDGLEY: Yes, several boat sheds.
MR. CURTIS HORTON: It is a piece of land that is surrounded
by two canals.
MR. MIDGLEY: This will be a year around residence.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak for this application?
(There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there any possibility of being any more
houses along the canal?
MR. WIC?UiAM: No one else is anxious to sell. Harry Tuthill
is not anxious to sell.
THE CHAIRMAN: ' Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response. )
Resolution was offered by- Mr. -Rosenberg, seconded by Mr.
Bergen, -and bdrried, WHEREAS application of- Midgley and Horton,
a/c Ritz Kohn, having been considered at Public Hearing Nai.
243 on December 9, 1959, and the Board finding that the strict
application of the Ordinance would produce undue hardship because
applicant purchased this lot several years ago and there has been
a small -dwelling thereon for sometime." Applicant wishes to enlarge
aid improve the dwelling and there is no possible way to enlarge
the'-lot. The situation is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the 'immediate vicinity because- this -is the
only residential- building in this "B" Business District. The
public convenience and welfare and justice- will be substantially
served and the legally established or permitted use of neighborhood
property and adjacent use districts would not be substantially
or permanently injured and the spirit of the Ordinance would be
observed because the expansion -of the dwelling would be in keeping
with the other residences in- the area and infact improve the
neighborhood, therefore be it
RESOLVED that the application be granted as applied for
subject however to the condition that the front yard sethack
be at least 12 ft.
Vote of the' Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis.
Southold Town Bca rd of Appeals 17- December 92 1959
PUBLIC HEARING: 9,00 P.M.2 Appeal No. 244 - Upon appli-
cation of Almet Latson, Private Road, east side Youngs Avenue,
Southold, New York, for a variance due to lack of access ' in -
accordance with State 'of New York Town Law, Section 280A.
Property located on private road, east side Youngs Avenue,
Southold, New York, bounded north by H. S. Joost_,. east by
other lands of the applicant, south by K. T. Salmon, and "
west by private right-of-way. No fee necessary - access.
The Chairman .opened the hearing by reading application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavit attest-
ing to its publication in the official newspaper.
CHAIRMANO Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR.- HOWARD. Me TERRY 9_Building-_In's_pe c tor: ' The road has
been in t" er a ood vhile a d is pass ble. (The Board studied
photographs takes of the right-of-way.
CHAIRMAN: - Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response. )
Resolution was offered by Mr. Bergen; seconded by Mr.
Grigonis , and carried, WHEREAS application of Almet Latson
having 'been considered at Public Hearing' No. 244 on December
9, 1959, the Board finding that strict application of the
Ordinance would produce undue hardship because '"this access
is a private roadway which has been in existance for many years
and is partially surfaced with black-top' and serves as an
access for several other families.- The situation is unique
and would not be shared by all properties alike in -the immediate
vicinity because this area has several dwellings built at
present which use this 'roadwgy. The public convenience and
welfare and justice will be- substantially served-and the legally
established or permitted use of' neighborhood property and
adjacent use districts would not be substantially or permanently
injured and the spirit of the Ordinance would be observed
because applicant interids to build A residence off this
private road which will be in keeping with the other residences
in this neighborhood, therefore be it
RESOLVED that the application be granted as applied for.
Vote of 'the Board:- Ayes:= Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis.
Southold Town Board of Appeals ®18- December 9, 1959
The 'Chairman reported that he had received a telephone
call from Mr. Edwin H. King; Orient, New York relative to the
question of enlarging a. sign on the - southerly line -of his
property adjoining Route 25 on the old golf Bourse. The
Board discussed this matter and it was decided a letter
should be forwarded to Mr. King stating that there are several
signs on the property and the Board of Appeals is not sure
which one he' is referring to' however,- it would -be contrary
to our past policy with reference to g6neral advertising signs
to permit any new non-conforming installations.
The minutes of the ,meetirig of November 2'5, 1959, on
motion of-Mr. Rosenberg, seconded by Mr. Bergen, and carried,
were approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis,
The Board of Appeal$ -received-` an application for a
variance dated December -9, 1959 from Eugane Horton, a/c
William Blanchard; Grathwohl Road, -New Suffolk; -New York.
The Board set 7:30 P.M.,' Wednesday, December 23; 1959 as
time for hearing. However, on December 10, 1959 Mr. Horton
withdrew this application fora variance as' it was discovered
there was ample sq. ft. in the lot not to warrant an appeal.
The next meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
will be held Wednesday, December 23 , 19599 7:30 F.M. , at the
Town Clerk Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Meeting adjourned at 10:35 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Judith T. Boken
Secretary
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