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S0UTH0LD, L. I., N. Y.
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APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen M I N.U T E S
Herbert Rosenberg
Charles Gregonis, Jr.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Serge Doyen, Jr.
March 27, 1958
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was held on Thursday
evening, March 27, 1955, at 7:30 P. Me in the Town Clerk's Office, Southold, N. Y.
There were present: Mr. Re We Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Mr. Robert Bergen
Mr. Herbert Rosenberg
Mr. Charles Grigonis, Jr.
Mrs Serge Doyen
Also present: Mrs Howard Me Terry, Building Inspector
PUBLIC REARING: Appeal No. 53 on application of Bertram B. Daiker of 43 Flower
Lane, Ro@l,yn Heights, N. Ye, for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance due to lack of
access under Section 280-a, Subsection 3 of the Town Law. Location of property
described in accompanying map as North Side of Bayview Road, Paradise Shores.
The Chairman opened the meeting by reading the application for appeal, legal
notice of hearing with affidavit from the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman
and letter to applicant advising of date of public hearing.
Chairman: To clarify this hearing I would state that the Planning Board, on
Larch 13, 1958, turned down the petition of Paradise Shores Association to establish
an "Open Development Area" and we are considering this because access has been turned
down by the Town Board and the Planning Board. Is there anyone present who wishes
to speak for this application?
Mrs Daiker explained to the Board that he was planning to proceed with a small
extension to his cottage and had stated in his written application the reasons for
the appeal. He also stated that he purchased his lot in 1952s knowing full well
that this was a private road and has contributed to having it black topped. He
is asking for recognition of the right of way to his own property only.
Chairman stated it was the feeling of the Board that some provision. should he
made to clear this right of way of overhanging branches and shrubbery and Mr. Daiker
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agreed that this would be done.
Chairman: Is there anyone present who wishes to'speak against this appeal?
I believe then that we are ready to make our decision.
Board unanimously granted the variance with approval of a 20 foot right of way,
as submitted on Map dated July 5, 1939 & May 24, 1940 by Otto W. Vanluyl, with the
understanding that overhanging branches and shrubs will be cleared, up to a heighth
of twelve feet, the full width of this 20 foot right of way, in order to provide
free access for Town vehicles such as fire trucks.
PUBLIC HEARING: Hearing reconvened on Appeal No._ 54 — application of R. B.
Hudson, 4 Middelton Road, Greenport, N. Y. Hearing had been recessed one week,
from March 20, 1958 to the present date, due to lack of information.
Chairman: Mr. Hudson, as I recall it you own two lots in Fleetfield?
Mr. Hudson: No. I owned two lots but sold one some time ago. I am asking for
the variance on the single lot.
Chairman: I guess that is all Mr. Hudson. I believe we can make our decision.
Appeal was unanimously granted since lot was purchased prior to the enactment
of the Zoning Ordinance and held in single and separate ownership. This subdivision
is nearly all built up and lots in the area are all of similar size.
PUBLIC HEARING: Hearing reconvened on Appeal No. 49 — Application of Isaac T.
Edwards, Main Road, Orient, New Yorkt Hearing had been recessed two weeks, from
March 13, 1958 to the present date, to give all interested parties an opportunity to
file written briefs.
Chairman opened the hearing by stating that recess of the hearing had been
agreed upon in order to give other interested parties, either for or against this
proposition, an opportunity to express their views. He further explained that the
application was filed in order to attach a'garage to the house on the property in
question and that the application stated that 'permissive use is requested in order
that applicant can build garage to house his business trucks".
Chairman: I might also state that we received a number of letters both for and
against and also state that this variance is also involved with an extension of a
non—conformiag. use. In other words, the two propositions are confused here. It is
not simply an application for a garage to be attached to a residence too close to a
line but also an application for the facilities to house physical equipment used in
the oil business and under these conditions we are considering it.
The Chairman then read letters received from the following who are opposed to
the granting of this permissive use: Clement J. Welles, Constance A. Erdman and
Lilian Dwight Stern. He also read a letter from Katherine M. Miller of Orient, N.Y.,.
in favor of the granting of this appeal and stated that on Sunday he had a telephone
call from Mrs. Beverly Lomas withdrawing her objection to this appeal and that is
confirmed in a letter to Mr. Tasker. Chairman then presented a letter received
from Mr. Edwards clarifying his intentions and a copy of brief presented by Mr. lasker.
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Chairman: Is there anyone present who would like to speak for this appeal?
Anyone wishing to speak against it?
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Mr. Schriever: . I would like to speak against this. My feeling about this
garage is really two things that strike me as objectionable to such a garage. One
is that in place of discouraging the use of What is obviously a residential
property for business purposes, it encourages it* If it is inconvenient to run a
business from a residential piece of property, or from one's residence, it is
certainly less likely that it will continue in. years to come and the more inconven—
ient it becomes the less likely it will continue-and I think the building zoning
was setup to try to discourage the use of residential property for business. This
has been residential for over 50 years or more and it has been divided into residen—
tial lots and there are new houses going up right now and-- I think it is detrimental
to all of the property owners and particularly to us to have the use of this property
for business purposes encouraged. The garage is at least 50% larger than a two caret
garage. It is obviously suited to park a large truck and to say that the garage will
hold only two vehicles is not right either. The garage is 36 feet long and you can
park 3 or 4 cars in there is all are standard size vehicles and that is not to my
mind a two vehicle garage even though it maybe described as such, The second thing
is — there is always the possibility that if you grant this petition then it becomes
to Mr. Edwards' advantage to move the remainder of his business to this property and
were there no garage he would not be inconvenienced too much to have to go elsewhere
to store his oil trucks. My feeling is that the granting of this petition will
merely setup the circumstances for still another application to be forthcoming and
this application will be to put the oil tanks there and then we will have the
business there, and that is my feeling about it.
Chairman: I don't believe there is anything in the Ordinance stating that a
garage shall be limited in size. However, a garage and accessory buildings may not
occupy in excess of 40% of rear yard area, as defined in the Ordinance.
Mr. Rosenberg: That is correct. If a man wanted to put up a five car garage
he could. The fact that it is attached.to the house is the only reason we are
legally entitled to consider this application. In other words, he would not have
to appeal to us if the garage were separated.
Mr. Schriever: Is this true in spite of the size of the garage?
Chairman: This is an extension of the house. were it separate there would be
no appeal. On the matter of oil tanks. They are located in East Marion, several
miles awayt and it is unlikely that he would ever move the tanks. In any case, this
Board is empowered to prohibit the installation of oil tanks in the future on this
property and I believe we will do this if we grant this appeal. I believe the
effect of this addition will be to screen you from the unsightly oil trucks and other
physical equipment used in the oil business. What you have stated about the area
being residential for 50 years is true. The fact that this application has come up
for permissive use of part of the property enables this Board to prohibit any further
extension of this use. I think that if this application is granted the total effect
on summer residents in the area is going to be a vast improvement. Is there anyone
else who wishes to speak against this?
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Mr. Henry Tasker: I have a telegram here from Ramona Burnham and Lucy A. Gesell,
addressed to the Board in my care, which I should like to read.
Mr. Tasker then read the telegram, which did not oppose the granting of the
appeals but was in favor of the granting of said appeal With certain restrictions as
outlined in Mr. Tasker's brief. Mr. Tasker stated that he understood there were to
have been other telegrams to be presented butup too 8:15 P.M. he had not received
them.
Chairman: Thank you all for coming., We will close the hearing and arrive
at a decision later tonight. Hearing closed.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 50 - Application of Mr. .James 0. Whalen of 216
Lakeview Avenue, Malvern, N. Y. ,for a,variance to the Zoning Ordinance under
Article III, Section 303. Also Appeal loos. 51 and 52 - Application of Mr. James
C. Whalen for permissive use under Article VIII, Section..807--A, Subsection C of
the Zoning Ordinance.
- Chairman read applications, legal notices of public hearing with affidavits
from the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman and letter to applicant advising
of date of public hearing.
Chairman: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for this application?
Mr. James C. Whalen: I have a map of the property here which I would like to
present and pictures and plans of the proposed homes to be erected. I stated in
the application for the variance that I purchased this property in 1955 with this
thought in mind and the survey shows the. layout for the intended use. I would not
have invested in this property if this would not be permitted.
A lengthy discussion was held between Mr. James C. Whalen, his brother
Mr. Robert Whalen, Mr. Henry Tuthill of Greenport, N.Y., Mr. William Wickham of
Cutchogue, N. Y., and the members of the Board.
Mr. Henry Tuthill expressed an objection to the granting of this appeal as he
felt that the purpose of the Zoning Ordinance was to protect the Town and not let
the area downgrade in any way.
Mr. .William Wickham stated that he was appearing on behalf of his wife and
himself and Mr. & Mrs. Fo H. Baxter of New Jersey and that they all owned property
in the area. He stated that he felt that if the Board allowed two acres of land to
be split up in less than the required size lots they would be setting a tremendouse
precedent.
It was explained to the owners that the Board does not have the power to
reduce the size of building lots except in cases involving undue and unique hardship
and that financial hardship is not considered a sufficient basis for proving undue
hardship. It was suggested that applicant redraw their map to conform to ,the
Ordinance as far as possible and hearing was recessed to April 10, 1958 at 8 P.M.
Decision in the case of Isaac T. Edwards - Appeal No. 49 Appeal unanimously
granted. The Board does not consider that the granting of this request is to be
construed as an expansion of the present non-conforming business. .We believe
that the construction of this garage will improve the character of the neighborhood.
It is hereby stipulated that this construction must be completed within one year.
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Minutes of the February 13th'meeting were read. On motion duly made by
Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Rosenberg, and carried, minutes were approved.
Minutes of the March. 13th meeting were then read. On motion duly made
by Mr. Rosenberg, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, and carried, minutes were approved.
Minutes of the March 20th meeting were read. On motion duly made by
Mr. Doyen, seconded by Mr. Bergen, and carried, minutes were approved.
-The next meeting of the Board is scheduled for Thursday evening, April
3rd, at 8:30 P.M. in Southold, N. Y.
Meeting adjourned at 11:25 B. M.
Respectfully submitted,
Grace B. Meyer,
L Secretary
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