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SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Herbert Rosenberg
Charles 'Gregonis, Jr. M I N U T E S
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
March 20, 1996
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was held
on Thursday evening, March 20, 1958, at 7: 30. P .M. at the Mattituck Fire
House, Pike Street, I'rattituck, N.Y.
There were present: Robert W, Gillispie, Jr. ,. Chairma.n
Robert Bergen
Herbert Rosenberg
Charles Grigonis, Jr.
Absent: Mr. Serge Doyen, Jr.
Also Present: Mr. Howard V1. Terry, Building Inspector
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. .47 .. Application for permissive use dated
March 3, 1958, by .Arnold S. Sacks of New Suffolk. Avenue, Iiattituck, New York,
in connection with establishing labor camp to be moved from one section of
property. which was originally Sacks to another section. This property located
South side of Sound. Avenue, Mattituck, New York. There were 5-persons present
at this hearing.
The Chairman opened the meeting by reading the. legal notice of hearing,
affidavit of publication in the Long Island Traveler-blattituck Watchman, and
letter to attorney for applicant advising of date of hearing.
Chairman: !GIs there any one present who wishes to speak "for" this
application? "
William Wickham, Esq. of Mattituck, New York, stated that he represented
Mr. Sacks and that Edgar Hills of 140 Nassau Street, New"York, was associated
with him. Mr. Wickham stated that he appeared because of the fact that Mr.
Sacks was sick and Mr. Hills was unable to get out from the city. He presented
to the Board a map shoving the location of the Sacks farm.
Mr. Wickham: "i�ar. Sacks has owned this acreage for some years, having
bought it from 1.the Downs family.1n 1954 he placed'al'abor- camp in this wood-
land right across from Westphalia Road.. In ,August 1956 Mr. Sacks sold this
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land on which the- labor camp is 1o'c.ated to Mr, :William Chudiak,, with the
provision that Mr. Sacks could leave his 'labor 'camp there for one year andthen would have to move it. In'- 1957 Mr. Chudiak allowed him to have the
labor camp there through the 1957 season.: Now: ,he is. obligated to Find
another. location. He has picked a location , south. of' Sound Avenue, - about 900
feet 'south .6f Sound Avenue, still. on his . farm.. His. f' rm land runs fairly
level south from Sound Avenue to the spot marked. by, crayon; then slopes off.
There is a sort: of shelf might here. : If. the .camp is located in this position,
very little will be seen either from the street or. the surrounding areas.
"Care must 'be taken to consider 'its, position in relation to' other
buildings ' and.-residences. There is` a commercial:build.ing owned -by 'apish
Equipment Company. -This is Mr.: P apish Is ..commercial location-An' farming
equipment and cars. Across the street, :catty-cornered, 'is Mr.. Bullock!s. -
residence,, perhaps. 1000 or I100 'feet from , the proposed -location. ''To the
northwest is Mr.:. JazombekTs residence, ,a- distance of approximately- 1300 feet.
Off to the northeast ,-Is .Mre, ..Pylko r s residence, about 1100 feet, distant.
There are no- residenc-es in this location here" excepta. great . distances. over .
to Laurel Lake'..": After this. is the. property of C. A. :
Price -and Company, Tfib.
This 'area- here is. pretty much swamp;-- trees ".and shrubs. The trees .swing up to
the ,Halloek property, so it- is a, question of whether this house would see the .
camp on account of'.,the trees. , But there are no residences right here whatso-
ever. . Now it, seems that Mr. Sacks, . .in request's-ng 'or asking that this .labor
camp. be. located in -this position is being extremely considerate. . As I indi-
cated earlier; with the camp in thi's location -it .would be a much simpler and
much cheaper_ operation for ,him with electric light. -lines, ,-right' there and:
ri.ght .o.n the road: . ,0therwise he -has -to put a ro ad, in dowri here, , he has to
put his own private .eleettle. :l_ight' .line.,in, a.t his own expense,' there is no
way the company, will do At.,..
"I frankly can`rt see how ,such 'A -location can be challenged. He is taking
it away from this location in' close:• proximity, to, a,- great number of people. He
is putting it down•'here where gust the ton .can be seen from_ the road and a
very goodly. distance ,from 'any commerciah :venture or any residence.. . VVe have
numerous eases in, Southold' Town where-there are "labor camps which I dons t-
think compare in location. 'In •Cutchogue by' the railroad tracks.. -And the
I.M. Young put one .in down 'In_ Southold with much opposition but- which is .-
working- out very well, But in' this case he, -is going' to a•.great deal of
expense, it costs a. great .deal of money.
"We respectfully urge ,the Board to consider, favorably the application:."
Chairman: "Is there any, one else who wishes 'to -speak for this
application? Is ,there any on.e, who wishes- to ' speak against it?"
Mrs. Mary .Pylko; !�. 1: wish to speak against' it. I am against the camp
because when they had it on the other. side .we had quite -a few disturbances
at midnights-and in, the morning.•!
Mr. Anthony S. Pylko:-:.. "The law can prove that 'there trouble ,there
every day.., -They don It . even live like. human beings. •ILm, very much against .
it: It'`is going to"' disvalue the property ,automatically by,,having a camp there.
We are thinking seriously, about, having a'. development there ourselves. u
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Chairma.ni . °How far away_ is, your property from this location? 11
Mr. Pylko:, .. 'About 1100 feet But they go. all over the farm.. ' We have
. trouble two or three o 1 clock_in the morning. You can see 'them laying .out
in ,the road: where the .cops :have ,to ' cone to pick-,them up: "
.Chairman: 11That I.s in. the location it was in' the old. location? 11
Mr. . P ' lko: ."Yes. u
Mr. Bergen: ."How.".about the one -on the old: Downs ' farm2"
Mr. Pylko: ' "They have no trouble. '.
Mr.: Bergen:` t1Th.is one :Drill be farther away than that one is..11
Mrs. Pylko,. speaki'ng'-'for. her"..mc'itherj Mra. ,Eva„Bullock: . 11 y mother
says that they. come from. the :other camp into- here, and have great parties and
make a lot of-"noise' every night. They. 'telephone all the timer Always come "
calling the. cops.;-11
Chairman: 1°Do "you: have any, other suggestion as =to where 'the camp might_
be located?°
Mr. , Pylko: "They,.. have, a labor. damp An,: Cutchogue. Put' them there. '
Chairman: . i11s that all ' :ou -have.,to._.sa'. "'
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Der. "Ed. .Jazombeck: Mr.. Jazombeck,ques-taoned`the location of the road
on .the ,map., then stated:. - t°From -where.-I'' am,-
m, ":I presume that s where 'the poles.
are .going and everything. From."my place, ;all the windows. are facing right at
it; .and of. course .I know. thes.e' p.eople, the. way ,they act up in the summer, and
I don-It .want any, trouble with.. my ;family when h'-m not . around, I" looked that
land over today and I „think I can see -it every day. . I 'don' t know :quite gust
where it is going to be located, but; I ,have an idea that anybody , in. my shoes
if they lived there, I don't think they.would like to"look at it, all the .time.,''
ITm not too keen about 'it. 1°
Chairman: "Is.' there any. one ',ehse who, wishes` to- speak against 'this
application? Is there -any one ':who, .wishes to. :speak in rebuttal for this
application? ",
.4r. Wickham: 111 gust have . two,-.things in' mind. One." Is-- the fact that I
do not believe that the ,ypolice department -has- any objection,:or'"has any
Violent or general :difficulties_ "frith the camp that -is being moved. I -do say
this, also, "that the-,"c,onditi.on .of..'t`he camp,:!and. the' -conditions..around the camp
are matters 'for: the 'Board of:':Heahth a.nd if 'ther-e a.re any complaints that is a
matter to, be brought ,up, before the. 'Board: of Heal.tY .rather than .to " th.i meeting.
I still think this location 'is: about .as good -as :-you can find anywhere in
:Southold Town for, a. labor ,camp: ` It 's a good 'dista.nce . from any. residence :and
below the level of the road, aria I;:cane t :-conceive of .a better place to put "
one. 11
Chairman;". "Is there- anyone. who wishes to -speak in .rebuttal against
this application?11
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Mr. -Pylko.: ! "My i�lfe expects ,_t,o deve_iop our,, farm., . Putting in a labor
camp 'is .going to disvalue the: rope.rty:_ Nobody, wants a labor• camp close to
their property. We"ll see• our:a-'a or somebody and look into this, and,
ask the tax assessors to come down and re�-assess 'the whole. thing. "
Chairman: "Is there . any ;one;- else?. ; Are 'there any questions the members
_ of .the . Board would. Like .to ask,',or. Mr... Terry? "
The - hearing- vas .o rx esl two -weeks-, •to April . 3; 1958 at 7:30 P.M.
Southold,.,in order to give every one- an .opportunity to- submit any additional
information. . .The Chairman state& t-hat' .any communications should -be addressed
to the Board. of Appeals, . Southold.
Mr, Hugh C.: Hurdle •then_ came.,in 'for an informal discussion with the
_ Board re' leative- to set-backs in. connection -with his property on Main Road,
Southold, New-York. ' 'It .was the decision of the Board.that' they direct -Mr.
Ho*a' rd Terry., Building Inspector,,' to.' 'issue. a. temporary Certlfica.te of
Occupancy to Mr. Hugh C.''.Hurdle for `129 days or-,upon completion of the ,f ob
of moving the- signs : -in question. if,-.done prior' to 120. ,days, this certificate
to become permanent pro.viding� the ..signs at the corners .of. the property are
mnved to conform to the' original specifidations '-submitted, to the Board,_of
_Appeals.
PUBLIC HEARING: kpp_lication No. `243 = Appeal from 'decision of Building
Inspector dated March 12, 1958 -by 'A B; .Hudson; 4 Middelton Road,. Oreenport, .
New York, appealing to the -Zoning'. Board of `Appeals:.from 'the .decision of the
:;Building Inspector 'on~Applicatlon for Permit No. - Z 243 dated March 12, 1958.
The Chairman. read the legal -notice of hearing,, affidavit of .publication
An the Long':-
hsland Traveler�M'at.tituek Watchman, and, a. letter advising I4r.
Reginald Hudson of -the date of the hearing. '
The ap± 'licant not being present, the ,hearing -was. recessed one week, to
Mar chz,27, . 1958 .a.t: 9:00• P.M. at. Southold, due. to.`lack of information..
The .Chairman then read a' letter. from the , Southold Town Planning Board
dated March 13, 1958, stating •that , a, meeting of ,the -Planning =Board;held on
March 11, 1958, the fo],lowing:-recommendatlon -was- made:
"The' Planning. Board recommends-' to the Board.of Appeals that in, cases
entailing access to largely built-up areas, .they consider -granting access
under 280--a'', ..Section ,3. Y
A -discussion of tM's •recommendation liras had 'by the Board.
Mr. Howard Terry then presented- to.-.,the" Board' 'the request. of Mr. a:nd
Mrs. Thomas_- Jurzena' of Silvermere Road,. 'Green-- rt;.•New York, for approval,
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of ,signs to be, placed on their property at Silvermere; . Greenport. Tt' was
the unanimous. decision of 'the' Board that' Mr. a'rid'Mrs... Jurzeha be permitted
to erect signs 'which coriform to, -Section, 408 of'. the Ordinance, and a letter,
to, that effect was sent to Mr. . and Mr.s. Jurzena.'
The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 P.M. '
: Respectfully submitted,
.°inn Gkgo' nis. . .
Assistant Clerk