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SOUTHOLD', L. I., N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman 14 I NUT E S
Robert Bergen
Herbert Rosenberg Southold-_Town,Board of 'Appeals
Charles 'Gregonis, Jr. September 12, 1957
Serge Doyen, Jr. _... ._ ....... ......_,._ _... ._,.._...11,
A regular meeting of the Board of Appeals was held in the Town, C1erkis office
in S outhold,.. No .Y.,:.on Thursday. .$eptember, 12, 1957.. P�P_7_ .0 P.M.
There were present: Mr. R. W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Mr. H. Rosenberg
Mr. R. Bergen
Absent;_Mr._Serge Doyen, Jr.
Also present: Mr. Howard M. 'ferry, _P#l!#ng. Inspector
-PUBhIC E'FARIN'G._ YAppea7 No. 22 . .Application of Andrew Wegener of 75 Bray Ave.,
Mattituck,_.N. Y., fora variance under ARTICLE III, Section 305 of the Zoning
Ordinance, for addition of enclosed porch to existing house on lot on West Side of
Brag Ayenue., Iattituck, N. Y.,, �.P._zone.
Application for variance, letter to appellant advising of date of hearing
and legal notices with affidavits from two official tovm newspapers were read by
the Chairman. _
There being no one present to speak either for or against this appeal the
board', after discussion and study, unanimously agreed to grant this_appeal. It
was the determination of the board that the proposed addition would be in line
with the character of the district and would observe the spirit of the ordinance
as setbacks would conform to the ordinance and the hardship created is Unique.
Hearing closed,
PUBLIC HF ppeal No. 23 — Application of-,Frank S. Thorp, 120 Rocka�ray
Ave.,. R ockville.-Center, N..Y.,_ for a variance Under ARTICLE III, Section 3' of
the Zond,�ng Qrdinance. Lot: 92.8� on South Lane x 1001 on East Lane, Old Orchard,
Gardiner t.s.Beq Estates, East _Marion.... N. Y.
_Application for variance, letter to Mr. Thorp advising of dateof.hearing
and legal notices with affidavits from two official town newspapers were all read
by the- Chairman.
Chairman: uls there anyone-present who wishes-tospeak sfor"' this appeal?
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M _ .._.g rp: , Lot is the same depth as lots adjacent to it and is a little
wider. Lot is larger than practically eve thin in that development and as the
roads have been established and there is no adjoining land available I an Unable
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to increase the size of.lot.!'.-.
Chairman._:_-"Anyone present who wishes to speak ��againstn this appeal?"
Board unanimously agreed to grant this appeal on this corner lot which was
held in single and-- separate ownership before the enactment of the Zoning Ordinance.
Hearing closed.
PUBLIC HEARING: Continuation of hearing held .on An st 22,_"1957, . in connection
with Appeal No. 16 of Leonard Gilman, M.D. of 12 Mountain Avenue, Montclair, N. J.
Hearing was recessed in- order to give adjoining property owners an opportunity, if
they so desired, to purchase the lot in question, hot PTo. 14 on tracing of map of
F1 Laughing Waterst', Section 1, Southold, N. Y. This delay was agreed to by Mr. A.
Reilly-of- A.- Reilly 4 Sons,__Inc.,- builders,,.,who had presented, appeal._-
There being no one present '"to speak either, for or against this appeal, Board
unanimously_agreed to grant„the appeal. It was the determination of the Board that
it would not be proper for the Board .of Appeals to. deny the -right-to baild. on an
undersized =single of held in s3ng1E and separ ate
_ovmership_ at_ the date of_the
passage of the Zoning Ordinancee The unusual protest that developed in connection
with this appeal seemed to be largely based on misinformation as to the proper
functioning,of_-the„Zoning Ordinance.
Hearing closed.
Minutes of the September 5th meeting were read. On motion made by Mr. Bergen,
seconded by Mr. Rosenberg,_ and carried, _minutes were approved.
NG PUBLIC BEARING: eat No, 24- Application of Ursula Sledzi� Appeal eski_of Greenport,
N.Y., and Dr. Lawrence_ T. Waltz for a._variance to the Zoning Ordinance under
ARTICLE VIII,' Section 801-A", paragraph B. Property located on north side of Main V1-
Road (Route. 25) in easterly part_of pillage of Southold, X. Y.
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pp13.cat ion, notice to applicants attorney advising of date of public hearing
and legal notices with affidavits from two official town newspapers were read by
the Chairman.
Chairman; _ni would like to__explain to all present that time will
_be_permitted
for all.-those--wishing to speak for or against this appeal., with rebuttal, but that
no cross examination shall be allowed. Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this a7ppeal?11 - -
Mr. Henry Tasker: "I wish to make a preliminary statement to the Board. You
have already met Dr. Waitz and Mrs. Waitz and you are aware that Ursula Sledzieski
is the owner of the land and_has contracted to sell the property to Dr. & Mrs.
Waitz, who propose to run a clinic fhr the practice of veterinary medicine. The
actual presentation and denial of a permit by the Building Inspector will be
explained by Mr. Robert Tasker.11
Mr. Robert Tasker: "Mr, Chairman and Members of the Board. I would first like
to outline,.the character of the' property which is the subject of this appeal. The
property ii fronting on Route 25 just east of•the Village of Southold, _frontage in
excess of 2501 with depth in excess of 7001, bounded on the north by Long Island
Railroad right-of:way, on the. east„by aright-af-way- and on the west by a right-of--
way. Along both east and west boundaries the right-of-ways cross the railroad
tracks. On the westerly right-of-way there is a farm way in the back and the only
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means of access to the farm is through the right-of-7—vW I.think one of the..
conditions .upon,_which the board can,grant,.a-variance is a hardship. and this would
show that_this_is a.-unique,_hardship on.this exi sting. property. It is only 121
from the house so. that you have trucks and tractors passing 121 from the house.
Another sitvation. is _the terrain. - About 10,1. from the rear of the dwelling the
property,slopes off.and between there,_ right_up to the railroad tracks, is a
deep gullet'. For Iall practical purposes the property cannot be used any farther
back than 12 to, 15 feet back of the dwelling."._
Mr. Rosenberg "For how. _many--yearshas,_this.,been used as_a_ residence?11
Mr. R. Tasker: "The house has always been used as a residence. Prior to 1941
it was owned by Mr. Charles Sanford who used the premises for the storage and head-
quarters for his construction business. Ee.-stored_ trucks, etc. on the,_premises. "
Mr. _it._Tasker: "First we should address ourselves to Section 300 of the
Ordinance, „sub--division 8. It is our position_-that, the proposed use of the premises
will be similar to the uses permitted in "Alt Residential zone. The veterinary
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practice is similar to.a doctor. The ordinance says - provided that the occupation
is carried on in a dwelling or an accessory building thereto. That is exactly what
Dr. Waitz proposes to do. We therefore think that the Building Inspector was
erroneous in his denial of the application for a permit. If the Board should think
that the ordinance, as it now reads, _does not permit that particular type of use
we think we have all the facts necessary for this Board to grant a variance. The
premises have been unoccupied since 1951 and have been for sale for the last three
years. The premises would not yield a return to the owner if used strictly for
residential purposes. "
Chairman: "We are not permitted to consider financial hardship as an
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element in grant ing avariance -
Mr. R. Tasker: "The unique and other hardship is the character of the property.
The property slopesfrom the south of the dwelling and if you had..a clinic in the
rear of the. houseyouu yould_be faced with the situation of the runs of the clinic.
The runs would have to be placed on piers off the ground. Immediately..to the west
of the house there is a _.deep ropen well so you would have difficulty, adding to ,the.
west, of the house.- If you_attempted_ to movethe barn you would_ run into difficulties
as it is .on a brick foundation and floor area is cement. I have already mentioned
the right-of-ways which cut; across the property and I think we have a unique situa-
tion here. "
Dr. Waitz: "I we wereg$ itted to put up a new building I would prefer to
put up a small building and have it some distance away from the house. We would
use the dwelling as our residence. "
Mr. R. Tasker: _"As to what effect the use -of this property as a clinic and
office for the practice of veterinary medicine would have on the neighborhood I
would,like s to ay the_property to the west_ and the rear are used for agricultural
purposes. so_that. the use of these_premises for the_proposed use will .not alter the
character of.the neighborhood. I also have, and would like to "file with the Board,
consent,of owners of lots immediately adjacent to property in question, for the
proposed use.
Chairman: "What would be the approximate diameter of this circle?1°
Mr'.- R.' Tamer: "To the West, South and Borth at least 1,000 ft. and to the
East 16.0 ft.
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At this time Dr: Waitz will address the Board. He has some photographs I believe
of his. proposed construction.,��
Dr. Waltz: "I am not._in•,a position to addressyyou gentlemen.,but. would like
to answer any..questions .you migh_t.,have. I have been practicing since 1932 and
have been very. busy the last 27 years. I am willing. an capable of working but want
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to work at a slower rate. If we were able to use this property I think it,would
contribute to the commnnity„as I..have been told,by many that- there„is a.need for
a,man- herein this profession. -I feel that we have sufficient land and it could not
in -any uray_ be a_annoyance to anyone. T. have pictures here of a building, used at
the present time fora real estate office in East Norwich, similar to the building
I had planned to put_up._.. Building, would .be about-the-same size and nature.0
Chairman: GIs there anyone else who wishes to speak for this appeal?" Anyone
wishing to speak against the appeal? There may be some questions the board would
like to ask. Perhaps Dr. Waitz you could explain the definition of a.kennel run
as compared to an exercise run."
Dr.._Waitz:. _ 11In. the old type of boardin kennel-you had runs attached to the
building where the clogs could run in and out"-at' will during the .day. We now
have runs where a dog is permitted out two or three times a day for a short
period. It is not practical to keep sick dogs outside and even boarding dogs are
better off inside."
Chairman: HI believe that the new theory is that you keep a dog under controlled
conditions. Noise is probably the outstanding source of difficiil- ty in connection
with dogs._ ...-
Dr. Waitz: "After 27 years of practice I still do not like to.hear noisy 4 gs.11
Further.discussion was held between Dr. & Mrs. Waitz, their Counsel and Members
of the_Board... "Summation: Mr. Henry Tasker maintains that the Or,in Sub-division 8
of Section 300_-permits the use of an accessory building to be erected as the main
place,, of business_ of the applicant, _while_Mr. osenberg maintains that the defini-
tion_ of an accessory builcing, as outlined- in the Ordinance and based_on, legal
interpretations in the_,past,_ would prevent, the erection" of.a separate_building to
house the facilities required by a veterinary practice. It is Mr. Bosenbergts
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contention that the zoning laws in general and our ordinance in particular should
be interpreted to mean that a veterinarian may conduct his profession mainly from_. _
his home and that the requirement for additional space of such a profession mast
be incidental to the main use of the residence_for_a profession of this character.
Chairman: 1g4r._ Gregonis and Mr.' Bergen would be in favor_ of granting this
variance but as Mr. Rosenberg is of a different opinion I am sure we would not want
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to overrule him. Mr. Tasker.. has asked if they v.ould have until next Wednesday to
submit a memorandum of law and Mr. Rosenberg will also' submit some facts. Decision
on this appeal will•be given on Thursday, September 19, 1957." .
Hearing closed.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal..No. .,25_.-_Application of Raymond T. and Ella M.-Graham,
Pine Tree Road, Cutchogue, N. Y. for variance under ARTICLE III, Section 303 of
the Zoning Ordinance. Lot 222.721 south west .corner Horton Road & Pine Tree Road,
Map of Nassau Farms, Peconic, N. Y.
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Application, letter to Mr. Graham advising date of hearing and legal notices
from two official town newspapers, together with affidavits, were read by the
Chairman.., __ . _ _•- _. _._ _ .
Chairman: _ "Is there anyone_present. who wishes to speak for this appeal?"
Mr. Graham: "There are two cottages on this lot. at present which have been.,
there for some time.., We propose to sell -the one house on Horton Road and ask
a variance-on,the lot 75' frontage on Horton Road x 1001 in depth. We intend to
divide the lot in two parcels, one with 751 frontage and the other 147,72, x
100, in depth.n -- •-- _-- _ _.P _..
Chairman: nIs there anyone present who wishes .to speak against this appeal?n
It_ was the determination of the Board that the strict. application_of the
Ordinance would produce undue and unique_.hardship as_the two existing houses on
lot were there before the Ordinance went- into effect and as the variance does
observe the spirit of the Ordinance Board unanimously agreed to grant this appeal.
Hearing closed.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 26 - Application_ Howard P. Barnes, 48 Bay. iew Ave.,
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Lynbrook, N. Y. for variance under ARTICLE; III, Section 303, of the Zoning Ordinance.
Lots 35, 36. and_37,--Amended Map- A-1124 'rPeconic Bay_ Estatesti, Greenport,__N•.Y.
Application, letter to appellant advising of date of hearing and legal notices
with affidavits from two official town newspapers_ were read by the Chairman.
There being no_one present wishing. to„speak either for or against this appeal.
Board studied application in which owner requests variance to divide the three lots
into two, making each of the lots 751 frontage. Board agreed unanimously to grant
this appeal.
Hearing closed..
Board then discussed the matter of a bu et to be submitted to the Town
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Supervisor for the coming fiscal year. After careful consideration it .was
estimated that the expenses of the Board of Appeals would be as follows:
Secretarial assistance $ 966.66
Stationery, aauZ Form printing _ 300.00
Filing._Cabinet .
Law of Zoning by James_Metzenbaum 56.00
Subscription to the Zoning_Bul].etin 10.00
Advertising_of_ legal notices 1,500.00
Travel, Expenses, divided as. follows:._
1. Estimated .expense for two members of the board
attendance at Association of Towns meeting in New
York in_February _._ - $250.00
2. Estimated„.expense Mr._,
Doyen, board member
from Fishers Island,. for attendanee at
board me6tings.in Southold, N. Y. 150.00
3. Estimated travel expense of board to
Fishers Island. 12 .00
525,00
Carried Forward $ 3,36o.o0
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linutess, Continued
_. Brought Forward $ 3,360.00
Reimbursement to Board of_Appeals; $600.00 of
which is remuneration 'tofthe
Chairman and the
balance representing $500.00 to each of the
other members of the Board. 2,,600.00
TOTAL ESTIMATED EXPENSE $ 5,960.00
TOTAL ESTIMATED INCOME * FROM
APPEAL, .APPLICATIONS 1,.500.00
ESTIMATED-NET_EXP_CNSE OF TEE _BOARD .._ $_4,46000
Figure of help- -was det ermined_by combining, the
expense of the last three months of operation. Estimated expense of advertising
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of legal notices is based on estimated number of appeals to be filed with the
Board of Appeals' ' Estimated Acome was arrived at by estimating number of
appeals,,--at $15.90 per appeal, for the entire year.
Meeting adjourned at 11540 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Grace B. Meyer
Secretary
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