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M I N U T E S
BOARD OF SOUTHOLD TOWN TRUSTEES
Meeting of May 7:, 1973
A regular meeting of the Board of Southold Town Trustees was held
Monday, May 7 , 1973 at the Town Clerk' s Office, Main Road, Southold,
New York. The meeting was called to order at 8 :15 P.M. with the
following present:
Alvah B. Goldsmith, Chairman
Douglas M. Robertson
Philip G. Horton.
Rudolph Johnson
Frederick E. Gordon
Judith T. Boken, Secretary
Mr. William Brady, President of the Laughing Waters Property Owner ' s
Association, Southold, appeared before the Board with another Association
member and Mr. Patrick . Carrig, to apprise the Board of their construction
of a bulkhead. This bulkhead is 6 ft-. further back on the Association
property at Corey Creek from where there had been 15 boat stakes, and
the same number of boats will be moored at the bulkhead. -- The Board
thanked Mr. Brady for keeping the Board informed, but advised him
that since this bulkhead is entirely on the Association property, and
although the Board looks favorably on such -a project., it is outside
their jurisdiction.
Mr. Carrig asked the Board?s opinion on the extension of a bulkhead
on the property of William Albinson, North Bayview Road, Southold.
He had previously constructed a bulkhead entirely on Mr. Albinson 's
property in 1971, and now wishes to extend it along the same line,
still entirely on his own property. The Board advised Mr. Carrig
that the proposed extension is outside the jurisdiction of the
Trustees .and a permit is not required.
Mr. Carrig next-. discussed the -application- of Robert;.Brown, Beachwood
Lane,. Southold, _.for permission to construct a dock, aEdofioat in front
of his property on Goose Creek.
On motion of Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED that Robert Brown, Beachwood Lane, Lot 19, Map of Southwood,
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Southold, New York, be granted permission to place a 3 ft. by
15 ft. dock, 3 ft. by 10 ft. ramp, and 5 ft. by 16 ft. float
with two piles in front of his property on Goose Creek, all in
accordance with the detailed specifications as presented in the
originating application. Fee $.l .50...
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. Johnson,_ ,'Mr._ :Gordon-.. .
Nancy Graham, Hickory Drive, Cutchogue, appeared before the Board
to present her application for permission to dredge the entrance
of the boat basin on her property. The mouth of the basin is now
closed at low tide, due to shoaling which resulted from clamming
along the edge of the mouth of the basin.
On motion of Mr. Horton, seconded by Mr. Johnson, it was
RESOLVED that Nancy. Graham, Hickory Drive, Cutchogue, . New York,
be: granted .permission to dredge an 8 -ft. by 18 ft. area., removing
50 cu. yds... of fill from� the mouth of the boat basin on her
property off Broadwaters Cove, at Hickory Drive:; Cutchogue, . a.11
in accordance with the detailed specifications as presented in
the originating application.. . Fee. $5.. 00.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
Mr. James Knowles appeared before the Board to determine if a
permit would be necessary to repair his dock which was damaged
by ice. He was advised a permit would not be necessary as long
as the dock is just repair and not enlarged.
The following applications .(Tejo, Edelmann, Lad.ja, Crane, Maus,
. Spetsiotes, Raynor and Sanders) came before the Board on April
2nd. The Board investigated the. sitesand the following action
was taken:
On motion of Mr. Horton, seconded by Mr. Robertson, it was
RESOLVED that Carlos Tejo, Maple Lane, Mattituck', New York, be
granted permission to place an "L" shaped dock, 100, ft. by 2. ft.
.50 ft. :'-by 21z7ft. fof 0h�oh is ion his own property)and 15 ft. by
2 ft. from the edge of the upland' on his- property off -Maple
Avenue, to the Long Creek- branch .of Mattituck. Creek., Mattituck,
NewYork, all in accordance with the detailed specifics=t-ions as
presented in the originating application. Fee $13.00.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
It was the determination of the Board that Mary Edelmann, Mattituck,
New York be. requested to submit an application for her dock, which
was constructed in 1915 and ,recently completely rebuilt. A $1. 00
fee will be charged.
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On motion of Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Johnson, it was
RESOLVED -that . Ronald J. . La-jda, . 6.00 .,.Eastwood Drive, .Cutchogue, New
York,, be granted a temporary permit- to place a second onshore
offshore mooring in Richmond Creek, on the east side of Town
launching ramp off Indian Neck Lane, Reconic, New York, all in
accordance with the detailed specifications as presented in the
originating .application. Fee paid on Permit No. 775 ..
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
(Mr. Lajda ' s permit is temporary and may be w+ithdrawn, at a
later date if the area becomes crowded, as the Board has only
allowed an individual one mooring site at a public landing. )
On motion of Mr. Horton, seconded by Mr. -Gordon, it was
RESOLVED that Robert E. Crane, - South Harbor Road, .Southold, New
York, be granted permission to place an onshore-offshore mooring
at the foot of South Harbor Road in Richmond Creek, all in accord-
ance with .the detailed specifications as presented .in the originating
application. Fee $51000
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr.
Horton, Mr. aohnsanc,�nMr. Gordon.
On motion of Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Johnson, it -was
RESOLVED that Robert Maus, Southold, New York, be granted
permission to construct .a .dock 52 ft. 'by.4 ft. , -ramp 8 ft—by
2 ft. 6 in. , and float 12 .ft. by 2 ft. with four pilings, in.
front of his property on Cedar Beach Creek, Sandpiper Basin, off
Clear View Road (private) , Southold, all in accordance with the _
detailed specifications as .presented in the originating application.
Fee: -2.-6f3-.(Corrected to $21.80 - less 52x7 dock on appli. property) .
Vote of--the Board Ayes _-Mr..:Goldsmith, .--.Mr. Robertson, Mr-,.-
Horton, Mr.. .Johnson, Mr. ---Gordon_
On motion of Mr. Horton, seconded. by Mr. Johnson; it. was
RESOLVED that the Board waive jurisdiction on the application of
Mr. & Mrs. A'. Spetsiotes, Budds Pond Road., Southold, New York; -for
permission to construct a bulkhead to retain fill carted and- placed
on the site in construction of a home. The bulkhead is entirely .on
the applicant' s own property. Filing Fee: $5 .00.
Vote of• the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith.,: , Mr. Robertson, Mr: -Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
On motion of. Mr. Robertson; seconded by Mr::• Hotton; . it was
RESOLVED that Howard W. RaV.nor, A401 .Atla-ntic Avenue, Greenport, New
York, be granted permission to placenan .on-shore=offshore mooring
in Arshamomaque Pond, off Meadow Lane, Southold, -.New York, all in
accordance with - the -detailed specifications as presented.-in the_
originating application. Fee paid under Permit No. 792.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith, -.Mr. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
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On motion of Mr. Johnson, seconded. by Mr. Horton, it was
RESOLVED that. James E. Sanders, Mattituck, New York; be denied
permission to place an -onshore--offshore --mooring at the. foot of
Bayview Avenue, Arshamomaque Pond, . Southold,. New York, as there
is not. sufficient room at this location for the mooring of another
boat. No fee charged.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
The following new applications were studied, discussed, and are
to be investigated by the Board and a decision made at the next
meeting :
Robert J. Melchione, 41 Spencer Way, Kings Park, New York, for
permission to peplace existing 20 ft. ky 3 ft. dock with new ,
60 ft. .by 21-2 ft. dock at his property on Goose Creek, Oak Avenue.,
Southold, New York.
Alfred. Melchione, 655 Hummel .Avenue, Southold, New' York, for
permission to place a mushroom mooring and an onshoreeoffshore
mooring-'at his property on: Goose Creek, Oak Avenue,- Goose Bay
Estates, Southold, New York.
Norbert Rademacher, Oak Avenue, Southold, . for :permission to
place two offshore mushroom 'moorings, one _offshore: stake, '.and
one onshore=offshore mooring at his-'property on Goose Creek,
Oak Avenue, Goose Bay Estates, Southold, ' New -York.
Dorothy- Bridge, for permission' to place ..an onshore-offshore
mooring at foot of Minnehaha Boulevard, Laughing Water, Southold.
Harold G. ,Baldwin, Bay.'Avenue, . Mattituck;. for permission to
dredge an area 50 ft. by 40 ft. , removing .900 _cu. . yds,. of
material from under and around his floating dock in James Creek,
off Bay Avenue, Mattituck,, New York.
Joseph P. . Ulrich, Main Road., Southold, New York, for permission
to place four "U" shaped floating docks in Jockey Creek, off
Main-. Road (Route 25) , Southold, ,New York.
The following new applications. were studied, discussed, and
approved:
On motion of 'Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Robertson, it was
RESOLVED that .Thomas B. Reeve, 245 Maiden Lane;. Mattituck,. be
granted permission to extend his existing dock 50 ft. by 2. ft.
so that it -will reach high water in Mattituck Creek, off Maiden
Lane', Mattituck, all in accordance with. the detailed specifications
as presented ' in the originating application. Fee $10. 00.
(Total- length of the dock will be 76-. ft. :�-. original Permit No. . 43) .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith, Mr.. -.Robertson, Mr. `
Horton, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
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On motion of Mr. Horton, seconded by.,.Mr. :Gordon,: it.was
RESOLVED that Myron J. Peabody,. South Harbor: Road,. •. Southo.ld, ,.be
granted permission to place an onshore stake in Richmond Creek, at
the foot of South Harbor -Road, Southold, ..New York,,--all -in -accord-
ance with the detailed specifications as presented ,in the originating
application.. Fee $5..00:
Vote•'of the:-Boards _Ayes : Mr. . Goldsmith, ,.Mr..,-Robertson, Mr_,Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon:
On-motion ..of_Mr. _Robertson, _: seconded_.by Mr. Johnson,. _ it_was,_
RESOLVED that Rolf Johnson, Hortons Lane, ..Southold,. New York,, be,
granted permission to place an offshore mooring in Town Creek, off
of Youngs Avenu.e, . Southold, New York, -all - in accordance with the
detailed specifications as .presented in the originating application.
Vote-of the Board: ,. ..Ayes Mr..:.-Goldsmith, :,Mr. - Robertson,- Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, .Mr. . Gordon. ..
On motion . of Mr. Gordon, . seconded by Mr. Horton, ' it was
RESOLVED that Christine A. Wissemann, Wells Aveftue;.. Southold,: be
granted permission to place an offshore mooring in Jockey Creek, .
in front of her._property, on_.Wells Avenue,. .Southold,. New York,. all
in accordance_with - the_.detailed._specifications as ,presented in the
originating application. _._Fee_: $5 .00.
Vote_ of-.the .Board: .•Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith:, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
On motion of Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr: Gordon, . it was
RESOLVED that Robert G. Melrose, 39 Robinson Road,-_Greenport,; New
York, be granted permission to place two individual pilings, 'and
a 20 ft. by= 5 ft. float_with two pilings ins front, o:f his.,property
on Sterling Creek, off ,Robinson Road' - Greenport; New-York,. , a11_.in
accordance: with the=detai'ledspeciffi:cations as,%presented.- in •the
or.iginating .application :.Fee $14.00:.
Vote ofc:the=_Board:_ Ay.6s:_ -Mr.. Goldsmith, _Mr. _ Robertson, Mr. : Horton,
Mr. Johnson, 'Mr. -'Gordon. _ _.. _.L_ _
On motion of Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Horton, it was
RESOLVED that James F. Bahr, Jr. , 3.14 Champlin Place, Greenport, be
granted.-permission. to .use onshore=offshore;,,T.ownc mooring No.- 12
at Sterling Creek, Greenport, New. York., .. all._ in,_ accordance,..with_;the
detailed._ specificat•ions-.:as presented. in.-.the originating application.
Fee $5.00: : . : . .
Vote: of-.:the Board: . Ayes : . . Mr- Goldsmith, Mr.. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson, _Mr.-Gordon: :
On motion of Mr: Horton, seconded by Mr. Johnson, _:it was-
RESOLVED that Wilfred W. Ireland, 541 Main Street, Greenport, be
granted permission to use onshore-offshore Town mooring No. 8 at
Sterling Creek, Greenport, New York, all in accordance with the
detailed specifications as presented in the originating application.
Fee $5. 00.
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Vote of the Board: .Ayes; .-,Mr. Goldsmith.,. Mr:: Robertson, :;Mr: Horton,
Mr. Johnson, .,Mr. , Gordon:
On motion of -Mr. -Johnson, ,seconded by•-Mr. . Gordon; it was
RESOLVED that Joseph-,D. Verity, 34 -Sound Road, Greenport;, -be
granted permission to use onshore-offshore!.Town Mooring• No:, 3
at Sterling-Creek, Greenport,,•:New -York, all-..in accordance with-
the detailed specifications as presented in -the originating
application. Fee $5.00.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mr Goldsmith, Mr Robertson, Mr. _Horton,
Mr., Johnson,- ''Mr: Gordon.
On motion .of 'Mr: . Gordori, .' seconded by `Mr: Robertson,j it was .
RESOLVED that •Harry Sinuta, North- Road, .Greenport; 'New York., be- ,
granted permission to use onshore-offshore Town Mooring No. 2--at
Sterling Creek;Gre' enport,• all in accordance:• with the detailed,--,
specifications as presented in the originating application. . -.
Fee $5. 00.
Vote. of the--Board:- Ayes : ---.Mr. Goldsmith, .Mr":'-,,Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mt-. Johnson-, -Mr': Gordon. .
On motion of Mr. Robertson., --seconded:-by Mr. Horton, it was
RESOLVED that'Joshua Moore.-' 608--Carpenter"-Street; �Greenpbrt, -be
granted permission to use onshore-offshore- Town Mooring- ##ll at
Sterling Creek; - Greenport,! New York, all- in• accordance with- the-
detailed specifications as presented in the originating applica-
tion. Fee $5.00.
Vote of .the Board,-.;- Ayes Mr-. Goldsmith, .Mr: . Robertson, ; Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson; Mr. - Gordon
On'- motion .of Mr. Horton; seconded- by Mr.:; Johnson, it-.was
RESOLVED that-Stanley W. Siejka,. 965 Youngs .Avenue, .Mattituck,
be granted permission to, placb�-an- onshore-offshore - mooring .in
Mattituck Creek off Route 27A, east of-::Westphalia Road, Mattituck,
New•"York, all. in .accordance with- ,the.- d.etai:led specifications as
presented in the originating application. Fee $5.00:
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson,. Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson', ' Mr': Gordon. .,
V.
On motion of`Mr.iGordon, . seconded'.:by:Mr.: Robertson; ;it was
RESOLVED that Alfred R: I Nork-lun, 4'65 .. V•iillage- Lane,:;Orient,,, be.
granted permission 'to place= ah-,on•shore-offshore- mooring in'�.Orient
Creek, off the property of John B. Tuthill (with his permission-) ., .
Orient, New-York, all' in a'ccordance.with: the `detai:led specifications
as presented in the originating application.,• Fee �$5. 00-.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith, Mr. Robertson, Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson; Mr. Gordorr
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On motion of Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Horton, ._it was
RESOLVED that Harold Thilberq, 615 Bailey Avenue.,. Greenport,. .•.be -.
granted permission to place .an onshore-offshore mooring in Narrow
River, off Narrow River Road, Orient, New York, all in accordance
with the detailed specifications as presented in the originating ..
application. Free $5.00.
Vote of -the Board: Ayes : Mr. Goldsmith, .Mr. .-Robertson, Mr. - Horton,
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gordon.
The Board reviewed the application of RobertwW. Foster; 315 South
Street, Greenport, for two moorings . One mooring, in Sterling
Creek, Greenport, is within the boundaries of -the Incorporated
Village of Greenport, and a permit should be .obtained from the
Village rather than the Southold Town Trustees. The second mooring
is for the end of Bayview Avenue north of Colony Road, Southold.
All the mooring area is occupied at that site, and it was indicated
the Board would look favorably on a mooring site at the end of
Bayview Avenue south of Colony Road.
At 9 :45 P.M. the Board met with Richard Lark, Esq. , attorney for
Thomas Samuels, President of James H. Rambo, Inc. , Wunneweta Road,
Nassau Point, Cutchogue, and with Charles Guioz, Mr. Samuels ' partner.
Mr. Lark explained that Mr. Samuels had been ordered by a representative
of the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation to
stop work on a walkway, ramp and floating dock for Mr. Julius Juttner,
on Mattituck Creek (Town Trustees, Permit No. 772) , under threat of
criminal legal action, as a permit for the project must be secured
from the State.
Mr. Lark was advised by the Board that:
(1) The authority of the Board of Southold Town Trustees
stems from the Andros Patent granted to the Town of Southold in
1676; confirmed in the New York State Constitution when originally
adopted; organized and established in its present form by act of
Legislature in 1893 ; and re-affirmed by act of Legislature as late
as 1952.
(2) The validity of the permit issued is as complete at
present as it has been in the more than 770 permits previously
issued by this Board under which work has been accompl �;heddi.over
this long span of years without contest.
(3) The authority granted to `this Board has never been
terminated or abrogated within any recent scope of our knowledge.
(4) Although the permit 'has been issued to Mr. Juttner, .we
intend that it extend to any contractor employed by Mr. Juttner
acting as his agent in carrying out the specifics of the permit.
After lengthy discussion relative to Town, State and Federal
authority, the Board assured Mr. Lark that they would speak to
the Town Board immediately regarding the situation, and attempt
to set up a meeting with John J. Spagnoli, Local Permit Agent
for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation.
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On motion of Mr.,,-'Horton,-- seconded•-by=Mr. --Johnson' , it was
RESOLVED'-that--the=Board of--Southold - Town- .Trustees"-minutes of
Aprilc21• l973 -be.- approved as': submitted: " =
Vote of 'the Board: Ayes: "Mr: Goldsmith,' Mt; Robertson;. Mr. Horton,
Mr. Johnson; Mr Gordon.
On motion of-•Mr. "Gordon', seconded by Mr. Robertson; -it'-was
RESOLVED that the next meeting of the BoardL-of Southold Town '
Trustees will be held 7 :30 P.M. , Monday, June 4, 1973 at the
Town Clerk ' s. .Office, Main. Road, - Southold; � New- York.-- (The location
subsequently changed -to the Office d the Supervisor, 16 South Street,.
Greenport,• New-York. ) -
Vote of -the Board: , -Ayes- Mr: Goldsmith;:"Mr. ', Robe son, --Mr Horton,
Mr. Johfison, Mr Gordon:
Meeting ado tned==at 11- 55 P:M4
4uil;t4h -T: Boken, Secretary