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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-01/16/1968 t , i Ar' o 0 Gy Southold Town Planning Board Ln T p • O� SOUTHOLD. L. I., N. Y. 11971 �tol ,� yea PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wickham, Chairman Henry Moisa Alfred Grebe William Unkelbach Frank Coyle MI'•NUT 'E ' S SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING-BOARD January 16, 1968 A regular meeting of the' Southold Town Planning Board was held at.'7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, January 16, 1968, at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs: Herny Moisa, Vice"Chairman; William Unkelbach, Frank' Coyle, Alfred Grebe; John .Wickham, Chairman. Also present: Howard Terry, Building Inspector;' Otto Van Tuyl, Consultant. Mr. Robert McCarthy appeared before the Planning Board with a map of land surveyed for' Robert' J. & Mona R. McCarthy for property ' at Bayview. The property in question is located west side North Road to Bayview and south side North Bayview Road. Mr. McCarthy has divided this property into four lots and seeks the' Planning Board' s approval of the layout. - All lots have frontage on existing highways. i r Southold Town'. Planning Board -2- January 16, 1968 On motion by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED that the' Southold Town Planning Board grant approval of the layout of the lots on. the map of land surveyed for' Robert J and Mona R. McCarthy at Bayview, Southold, New York,map by Otto W. Van' Tuyl &- Son, map dated September 16, 1959, copy of said map being on file in the office ofthe Planning Board. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Moisa, Mr.- Coyle, Mr. Unkelbach, - Mr. Grebe: Mr.. Lee appeared before the Board with a layout of property located north side' Laurel Lake. This property has unsuitable . access to the -lots proposed by' Mr.- Lee. It- was felt this .la yout should be .handled as a minor subdivision. The' Planning Board! agreed, to hold this until later in the evening when John Wickham would be present,. in view of the fact- he-had some conversation on it and the Planning' Board would like to hear his views on the' proposal. The Planning Board took up the matter of Vista Bluff. Mr. Moisa read the following letters from the town- Superintendent' of Highways: "January 16,- 1968, The Planning Board, Town of Southold, Southold, New York, "Gentlemen: In order for the Town of Southold to accept Glen Court Road in Birch Hills, the grade will:. have to meet with Glen 'Court Road in Vista Bluff. "Very truly3purs, /s/ Raymond D. Dean, Sup't of Highways.. " "January 16., 1968, The' Planning Board, Town of= Southold, Southold, New York. "Gentlemen: -In order for the Town. of Southold to accept ,Glen Court' Road inVista Bluff, the grade will have to meet- with the Glen Court' Road in Birch Hills. "Very truly yours, /s/ Raymond C. Dean, Sup't of Highways. " Southold Town Planning Board -3- January 16, 1968 The following letter from the Southold Town Clerk was read: "December. 15,. 1967, Mr. John Wickham, Chairman, Planning Board, Cutchouge, New York. . "Dear Mr. Wickham: At a meeting of the' Southold Town Board held at the Office of' the' Supervisor, Lester Albertson, on Tuesday, December 12, 1967, the following resolution was adopted by. the Board: "RESOLVED: That the Southold Town Board hereby accepts a Bank' Deposit" Book of- Southold Savings Bank presented 'to Super- visor' Lester M.- Albertson contia ning deposits of`#7,000. 00 as recommended by the Southold Town; Planning Board for the completion of roads anal other improvements in the subdivision known as VISTA BLUFF, Cutchouge, N.Y. owned and develpped by Rene Gendron. "Very truly yours, /s/ ➢Klbert- W.- Richmond, Town' Clerk. " Mr. Gendron was present and requested this be set up for a public hearing. He was advised that it: could be set for a hearing at the next regular meeting -of the- Planning 'Board and the date would be determined .later. in the evening. Lefferts- P.- Edson, Esq. , and Henry Smith- appeared before the Planning Board seeking preliminary appoval. o.f ' the- subdivisi.on to be known as' Laughing, Water,. Section II, located at Southold, New York. Mr.- Edson presented three copies of the plan. to the ' Planning Board, and stated that all the suggested changes had been made. The question was raised about the status of fresh water supply to this subdivision. . Mr. Edson stated he has worked with -the' Suffolk County Health Department' on this and there is no problem.with- the up land lots;. and the low land lots will be subject to an agreement that they will not be conveyed until such. time as public water has been brought into this subdivision. Mr. Edson stated that- the health department is aware of the situation and they would seek- their,written approval after the.. Planning Board has granted preliminary. It was pointed out that the lYghway superintendent had not yet given written approval of the layout of the roads. The question of park and playground requirement was also raised and this will have to be discussed fur ther . T • l Southold Town' Planning Board -4- January. 16, 1968 On motion by Mr. Coyle, seconded by' Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that- the Southold Town Planning Board grant preliminary approval to the subdivision to be known as' Laughing Water, Section -II, Southold, N.Y., owned and developed by'Henry J.- Smith, Peconic, N.Y,-, map by Otto Van Tuyl &- Son, map dated September 13, 1967; revised September 19, 1967. *Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Moisa, Mr.. Coyle, Mr. Unkelbach Mr. Grebe. Lefferts` P. Edson, Esq. , appeared before the-, Planning Board with preliminary plan ,of subdivision to be known as .Highwood, located at Bayview, .Southold. This subdivision has '10 lots, all 20,666 square feet or more. Mr.. Edson stated he corresponded with - Mr. Isserman, adjoining property owner, to discuss the possibility of connecting the two property with a U-shape road; and that- Mr. Isserman refused to join roads. The- Board -viewed the' Plan pre- sented by Mr.- Edson and it was discussed. On motion by'Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that- the Southold Town Plannij Board grant preliminary approval to the subdivision to be known as Highwood, located at Bayview, .Southold, New York, owned by' Lefferts' P. Edson, map by Otto -W.. Van Tuyl, and Son, map dated June 4, 1957, and marked for preliminary plan of' subdivision March 10, .1966. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Moisa, Mr.- Coyle, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. Mr.: Donald Tuthill appeared before the'.]Planning Board to; seek approval of the highway layout of the roads in his subdivision to be known . as Yennecott' Park, Southold, New York. .The letter from the- Superintendent- of Highway was - read approving the high- way. layout of the roads. All the lots in this subdivision have 125 feet frontage, except for a few; and there are no lots with less than 20,000 square feet. Most of the lots are 22,.000 square feet. , 1 Southold Town, Planning Board -5- January 16, 1968 On motion by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant approval to the layout of the highways in the subditision to be known as Yennecott- Park, located 'at Southold, owned by Donald E. Tuthill and' Lorna E. Tuthill, map by Otto�.;W Van Tuyl &- Son, map dated September 20, 196.7. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Moisa, Mr.- Coyle, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Wickham. The Board took up the matter for Mr.• Lee's property located at- Laurel Lake, Laurel,N.Y It- was again agreed this should be handled as a minor subdivision. There is unsuitable access fo'r this property. The -access should be increased to. a 50 foot road. It was discussed making Mr. Jazombek.. give, more land to make a suitable access or the' Planning Board can say there will be no building permits issued to anyone who may buy that property in the future wit1rout suitable access. It was agreed that- Mr. Jazombek should be approached on the subject. Mr.- Lee was advised that all lots would have to have 20,000 .square feet of area. Mr.- Lee presented a map showing a layout of the property with increase lot sizes. The' Planning Board agreed. to withold any action on this layout until the possibility of increasing the width of the right of way has been explored. The next regular meeting of the' Southold Town Planning Board was. set for 7:30 PM. , .Thursday, February 1, 1968, at the Town, Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. The letter. to Lois Johnson Thorp, President, Gardners Bay Company-was- read regarding a parcel of. land still in the name of Gardners Bay"Company which was suppose to have been conveyed to another party. The following letter from' Lois Johnson Thorp was read: "Gardners Bay'Company, Inc, 120 Rocaway'Avenue, Rockville ' Centre, New York, Southold Town Planning Board -6- January 16, 1968 "Southold Town Planning Board, Southold, Y.: 11971 "December 18, 1967 "Gentlemen: Replying to your letter of December 13, 1967 concerning. the parcel of land totbe- northwest of- the proposed ' development, still. owned by the Gardners Bay` Company,- wehave an oral agreement with the owner of the adjacent land, Miss Jean- Schnieder, for- the sale of said land to her. We have been waiting for the final approval by the' Planning Board of our application before consummating the sab. -Trusting this meets with the' Planning Board's approval and.-answers 3pur question. "Sincerely, Loris Johnson Thorp, President" On motion by Mr. Wickham,. seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that- the° Southold Town Planning Board grant preliminary approval .to the subdivision to be known .as Garters Bay' Estates, Section III, located at- East Marion, owned by Gardners Bay'Company, Inc. , map by.'Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son, map dated December 1, 1967. It-was further RESOLVED that the applicant .be notified that they should pay their required fee;. and geta-approval from the' Suffolk" County Board of Health. When this is done, the subdivision can' be, set- up for a hearing. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Moisa, Mr.- Coyle, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Wickham. The Board took- up the matter of setting up Vista Bluff for: a hearing. It was determined that the fee has not- been paid and there was some question as to whether ornot the final : maps- had been' signed by the' Department of Health.. It- was- agreed that at the next regular meeting,, if all requirements are met, this can be set- up for a hearing. Southold' Town Planning Board -.7- January 16, 1968 The following letter- from- William B." May Company was read: "January 4, 1968 "Mr, Lester' Albertson, Supervisor, Township_ of Southold, - Southold, New York -11971 "Dear" Mr.- Albertson: "Following up on our earlier conversta Lions, I am enclosing a copy of the latest subdivision plan made up by Mr." Palmer of .Norwich, Connecticut. As you can see, we have provided a, 50 foot= right" - of: - way to include land on either side of the existing. 22 foot paved road. I also include a circular turn around with a diameter of 100 feet., From this road and from this turn around, each lot will have well over 100 feet of frontage. Mr. Palmer can supply linens of this when required. "I has been suggested that I engage Mr. Gada to move in with . a bull dozer and clear the brush and debris out of this right- of ' way. I am, quite willing to do this if you consider it necessary but in our last conversation, you suggested I riot do anything without talking to you so I await your advice. "Once again, I assure you that my wife and" I and Mr. .and Mrs.- Conant- who are the only ones -interested in this project at the moment will do nothing to in any way downgrade the property. If you would .like me to go out to the meeting, I will" be most. happy to do so. - Additionally, I would be pleased to meet with you in' Southold prior to the meeting if you consic7der this advantageous. In-fact, I wish to cooperate with you and the ' Planning'Board in every way' I can to create something which will result in a- positive improvement- for the Town and for' Rishers Island. "Very, sincerely yours, /s/ Bruce May— William B.- May, Jr. " The Planning Board viewed the plan of the property and discussed the layout. The following letter was written to Mr. May: .J Southold Town' Planning' Board -8- January 16, 1968 Dear Mr.- May: Your letter of January 4,. ..1968 to' Supervisor' Lester Albertson has been referred to us for our consideration. . The Planning Board will require you to file for ;h minor subdivision. You. will find applications enclosed. You will b9i-equired to remove the foundation, sidewalk, and curbing " from Reservoir Road and replace with blacktop to a minimum of the present paved portion of the highway, in view of the fact that you own the road to Winthrop Drive. This will have -to be made a. 50 foot highway back- to Winthrop Drive. In addition, we would suggest- that instead- of the round turn-around, that the . turnaround.be .made. square or rectangular. The, Planning. Board took up the matter of Beebe Drive Extension, East'. Cutchogue, New York. The Board.v.iewed the layout of the lots involved along Beebe Drive- Extension. The, Planniu agreed the applicant- should file for a subdivision on this property. The possibility of a road next to Moeller's property was discussed. It Was agreed the applicant be notified he should apply, for a subdivision and that all the lots be made at least 20,000 square feet to comply.-vdth the- Suffolk- County Board of .Health regulations. The Planning Board vidwed a plan of- property for' Peter J. Warren, located south side Great' Peconic° Bay' Blvd. ,. Laurel. The plan shows six lots, all under 20,000 square feet in area. It was also pointed out all lots must have 100 foot frontage. No action was taken on the matter. The' Planriing' Board .r.eceived from the Town Board the original petition of Bernard.Kaplan, relative to a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M" - Multiple• Residence' District on certain- real property situated at' East' Marion, with the instructions to prepare an official report defining. the• conditions described therein. This property is situated at Eakt- Marion, in the Town of Southold, County - of' Suffolk. and State of- New York, and more particularly bounded and described as follows: Southold Town� Planning Board -9- January 16, 1968 BEGINNING' at the easterly corner of lot 1, as shown on "Alap of Cleaves Point, Section I", filed 'in the,. Suffolk' County Clerk's Office as map' #2752;, frmm said point- of beginning running along the boundary of the exising "M" zone,, S. 330 22 ' 50" E.- 610 feet- more, or less, to ordinary high water mark of Gardiners Bay; thence westerly and then southwesterly along said high water mark, 330 feet.- more or less to land shown as "reserved for beach area" on_. said "Map of Cleaves Point, Section I", thence along said land, N. 440 03 ' 30"' W.-183 .feet, more or less; 'thence along a 15 foot right of way' as shown on said map, N. 120 53' -10" E.- 131.27 feet; thence along lot 6 as shown on said map, N. 80 13' 10"' E.s121..02 feet; thence along lot 5 as shown on said map N.. .O° 22 ' 40"' E.-124.15 feet; thence along lot 4 , as shown on said map, N. 160 08' 20" W..- .131.56- feet to the southerly corner of said lot l; thence along said lot- 1, N. 560 37 ' 10" E.- .75. 0 feet to .the point o,f'beginning. Containing 3.1 acres, more or less. A discussion was held on the proposed changer%of zone. On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Grebe,, it .was RESOLVED that the- Southold Town' Planning Board does not . . favorably recommend to the' Southold Town Board the change of zone from % "' Residential and Agricultural-District to "M" Multiple Residence' District on. the' above described property. The, Planning' Board refused to recommed a change of zone on this property twice before, .and the' Planning Board sees- no reason that-would change our assessment of the affect such change would have, on the area. It is the opinion of the Planning Board, that any such. change would be detrimental to the area. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Moisa, Mr.- Coyle, Mr. Uneklbach, Mr. Grebe, Mr.. Wickham. The Planning Board received the following letter from Lefferts P. Edson, Esq. ; "December 27, 1967 "Mr.John Wickham, Chairman, Southold, Town` Planning'Board, Town Hall, Southold, New York 11971 Southold Town Planning Board .-10- January 16, 1962 "Re: Map of Peconic' Homes, Section 2 "Dear Mr. Wickham: "We enclose herein a copy of an easement grant by Hehn to Smith in the above matter, which is presently being- recorded in the' Suffolk' County Clerk's Office. "With this, we are now assured of our ability to re-grant, this easement to the persons who have the right to use the right of way through the Hehn property. "When Mr. William-Wickham's' Office has supplied us with the release from the users of that part of the right of way which will be abandoned, we 'will' have the. identity of the parties to whom Henry �T.- Smith and wife will grant this new easement. "Sincerely, /s/ Leffert, P.- Edson, Esq. " Copy.: of said letter and easement were placed in the. file of Peconic Homes, Section II, inthe files of -the ' Southold Town' Planning' Board. On motion by'Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Coale, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of'the° Southold Town Planning Board dated December 12-, 1967, be approved as sent out. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Moisa, Mr., Coyle, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr.- Grebe, Mr. Wickham. On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that discussion on a .local law creating the Board of Waterways and Natural-Resources. providing for -the apointment of members to serve on said Board and providing for the duties of said Board, be tabled for consideration at' a joint meeting with the' Southold Town Board. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Moisa,. Mr.. Coyle, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Wickham. I. yJ Southold Town Planning Board -11- January 16, 19-68 The' Planning Board received' the following letter from Mary' M. Getoff: Vaterview Drive, Southold, New York 11971, January 11, 1'968 "Mr. Wic kham, Southold Town' Planning Board, Southold, New York "Ddar, Mr.. Wickham: "I am' submitting the enclosed information for consideration by the' Planning Board at their next meeting which I understand will be on January 16. "I am planning to. sell a lot 100 by 150. -feet out of a lot measuring.' at- present 100 by` 200 ft, as shown on the enclosed diagram� 2. ".The other sketch, Diagram 1, -shown our property, of about 7 acres, before the purchase of the 100 by 200 lot- on Waterview Drive. - As you- can see from the diagrams, the lot- on Waterview Drive adjoins the rest of the property. . . "This lot- was originally purchased, about 8 years ago, to give us access to Waterview Drive, in order to have a more level driveway. - We are now planning to retain 50- feet for this purpose, and to sell. the remianing 150 feet along Waterview Drive. "We have no other purpose for- this -parcel of 100 by 50 that we are keeping other than' as access to our property which -As residential.. "T assume that this request for approval of the division ' of the above mentioned lot will be considered at the January 16th meeting and that I will hear from you regarding it shortly there- after. We are anxious to go ahead with selling this lot as quickly as possible and will appreciate your cooperation in handling this request' at. the next board meeting. Thank you. "Yours truly, /s/ Mrs. Mary M. Getoff. " � I �J , Southold Town Planning Board -12- January 16, 1968 The Planning' Board viewed the sketches and discussed the request. The Board disapproves the proposed- 50 foot strip reserved between property of Wilkinson and the proposed-lot to be sold. It was the opinion of the Board that the entrance to the property should be at the westerly end of the .lot proposed to be sold, from the existing "stub-end" of Waterview Drive where it makes the right angle turn from east-west- to north-south. .The Board approves of retaining 25. feet of the westerly end of the proposed lot to be sold to be dedicated to the Town- for the purpose of widening the existing "stub-end" of'waterfiew Drive. The frontage of the lot to be sold must begin at- Wilkinson's property line. It was agreed that a letter be written to Mrs. Getoff advising her of the Board's opinions. The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 P.M.- Respectfully 'submitted, A 0, C �.J Barbara C. Dittmann, Secretary Southold Town Planning Board HENRY MOISA, VICE CHAIRMAN