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p ® SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
William Unkelbach
Frank =Coyle
M I N U T E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
June 17, 1968
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held
at 7:30 P.M. , Monday, June 17, 1968, at the Town Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. Henry Moisa, Acting Chairman;
William Unkelbach and Frank Coyle.
Absent : Messrs. John Wickham and Alfred Grebe.
Also present: Messrs. Otto Van Tuyl, Consultant; Howard Terry,
Building Inspector; Lawrence Tuthill, Construction Engineer.
The Board took up the matter of the application of Peter J.
Warren and Susan E. Warren for approval of a subdivision plat on
property located on Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel, New York.
WILLIAM W ICKHAM, ESQ. : We would like to ask your approval of .
the map are have filed with you. This is slightly different from the
original that we filed in that the original had six lots, but we were
fortunate now in cutting it down to five lots because we have a contract
to sell on numbers 1 and 2 and in this way we are able to maintain a
little -better the integrity of- this property. This is a very well devel-
oped, landscaped parcel and we want to maintain the roadway and the
shrubs and the trees as much as we possibly'=can and we have made -every
effort to do so. The only change physically that we are making on the
premises is that we are moving the garage to the west of the property ,
and that is so that we could make lot no. 1 more uniform. So , actually
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-there'. are ,just .the two dots. on'_the,. Bay and three- lots on. Peconic Bay; •Boule-,
v.ard We would -ask your •permission to have the e 'five .lots, to .be maintained
by.. Mr. Warren .and .Ye is also going to own the right. 'of way going ,out. He-'
yrould, have control, hot. only, 'of• the road", .bizt:.'of 'the trees and shrubs which:,
he values very highly.:_'..`,
hfR. MOISA:. i think- the .only question we' had on. it, was on -lot -no-. ,4 :-
wi.t:h.,only 85 feet" fronting .on Peconic Bay Boulevard. O.f.-course, if" vie =comply'. .
_.with the Ordinance., it is usually stipulated that we ,have 10& feet. I think
you received -a letter. that we would have a personal inspection of the .property.
I believe our" member also spoke,. to Mrs. Warren.
-MR'. UNKELBACH: By straightening out °the `road: you-could gain-'.15 feet,
and add-it.-to lot 'no, 4. Of course,. you ,-would_ have to move .those .monum6nt,'' "
at. �he. entrance .,.
WILLIAM WICKHAM: That !s ,why ,Vie: have made the:,.proposal. for lot' 'no. 4
for` less than 100 "feet. We would '1ike:`to. have 100 feet.,_,- ut` the monuments
and. the fence and.. the trees ;nave' all:' been there 'for many years.
MR. UNKELBACH:. This 'layout for -:thb.-driveway. comes on an angle. ,
WILLIAM,WICKHAM: That 's also.'a problem' that we .fagb- The .driveea.y
. ' is- not perpendicular 'to .Peconic "Bay :Bo�ulevard:.and' without that ' angle .you would
have quite a bit of difficulty .turning Vlest. . . We ,could possibly give that 'a .
.triangle there, but we would have to maintain an easement over 'it and if 'we
.had 'an easement we 'would' .have no control over th`e' fences , the monuments. and
the shrubs. ..
1,14. . MOISA: Well, everything` else seems .-to be. in order. Have you
anything else that. you would like to bring up?
WILLIAM WICKHAM: No -sir,
MR MOTSA: VTJelI, ' the Board will, corrie ,to a' determination at .a �littl.e
later' date 'and._notify you. :•:
The Board -went over the -map of Rolling Viood' Estates. dated April ,24,,
1968."
IvIR. .:'MOISA:, IV approved this layout ,of April' 24th,'aceording `to. my
minutes here. and ,•it' was resolved that the Planning. Board, approve the map
of Rolling jNood Estates.
MRS'. -'FECI3TIG:' 'I would .like 'to. know now what the, 'hi expects on .
the road.
MR- MOISA: 1.III e,.have out letter' dated_ June 3; 1968 from Superintendent- -
of the. Highways Raymond C.: Dean asking-,'for some other plan extending the road
to some adjoining property", for future development.
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MRS. FECHTIG: I have already gone into contract for that lot. It
would become just a thoroughfare in front of someone's property.
MR. MOISA: vile are looking forward to seeing a better access in the
future.
14RS. FECHTIG: But that would ruin the property.
The Building Inspector gave the Acting Chairman the latest highway
specifications.
MRS. FECHTIG: How about just maintaining this as a private road?
I thought it was a rule that you couldn't do that.
MR. MOISA: You would have to maintain it as an accessible road.
Or, you could form an association to maintain the road.
MR. UNKELBACH: You could convey those lots up to -the middle of the
road.
MR. MOISA: You still have to file for a minor subdivision. This
was actually approved at the last meeting. We will send a letter with our
recommendations. -
Mr. William B. Smith presented a preliminary map of Harvest Homes
Estates at Southold, New York for discussion ,vith the Board.
(Discussion was had. )
MIR. MOI:SA: You just want a preliminary approval of Section One,
right?
MR. SMITH: I would like an approval on the layout so that we don't
get into any further problems.
MR. MOISA: V'le will give you a tentative approval on the complete
layout.
On motion made by Mr . Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board gives a tentative
approval on the layout of Harvest Homes Estates at Southold.
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Samuel J. Glickman, Esq . presented map of "'Rigs and Things , Limited"
property owned by Agnes and Clinton Overton located at the south end of
Bayview Avenue, Summer Haven, asking for approval to separate a lot into
three parcels.
The map was laid before. the Board for discussion.
On motion made by Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board gives a temporary
approval of the layout of 'Xigs and Things , Limited.
The Board took up the matter of Town Harbor Terrace , Southold, N.Y.
JOSEPH P. HOEY, ESQ. : I had a letter from Mr. Wickham dated May
22nd advising that tentative approval automatically lapses after one year
on all proposed subdivisions. I. do have a letter from the Health Department
extending the time on that and I would like to make it a part of the file.
My concern is the question of that 100 foot turnaround because of the fact
that this would be a horseshoe, because I feel that that would be rather
unnecessary at this time.
The Board went over the map which had already been temporarily
approved.
MR. MOISA: Since this was. approved we are asking for park and
playground consideration on our subdivisions now so there is something
that you will have to think about.
(Discussion was had. )
The Building Inspector advised the Board that the fee on the
original subdivision was paid. Mr. Hoey is to be advised of the next
meeting of the Planning Board.
Mr. Harold Reese presented. to the Board map of Section III,
Harbor Lights Estates, Southold, New York.
1,4R. MOISA: We will discuss this lattr on and set a date for the
hearing on this.
Mr. Reese then presented to the Board preliminary map of Section
IV, Harbor Lights Estates.
On motion made by Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
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SOUTHOLD TOWN. PLANNING BOARD -5- June 17, 1968
RESOLVED that the Southo.l'd 'T own- .Planning.Board gives a tentative
approval' of :the :layout of::Harbor Lights Estates, Section IV.
The Boajbd took, up the matter of •the -subdivision.Ros,ewood Estates';
Mattituck, presently owned by.-John & Rose 'Koroleski..
Richard, Lark, Esq. -presented the preliminary subdivision' plan of.
Rosewood Estates to 'the Board for' discussion. Also present was Mr. 'Robert
"�. Kart; Surveyor.
(Discussion' was had. )
On-motio ,made -by, Mr. Unkelbach,- seconded by ,Mr. Coyle, it ;was
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RESOLVED that the. Southold`Td' n. Planning Board .;gives a. ,tentative
approval on subdivision'..-to- be known as Rosewood Estates at .Mattituck, N.Y,
Mr. .Donald ,Tuthill .presented 'the 'final map on' Yennecott 'Park at ,
Southold:
MR. MOISA: We ,have a';let•ter from.`the Village of Greenp.ort. in the
folder stating that the standard' agieiement: had: been .signed by all parties
on June. 142 1968 and ,is on file :with the .Village Clerk.
Mr. 'Lawrence Tuthill presented .the bond estimate ,to the B'oard'.
Mr, Moisa; read the b'ohd;•estimate. to' the -Board. and on motion duly. '
made and 'seconded it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town. Plahhing Board. recommend to the
Town Board a' road`.:bond •in the amount of $47,000.00, .together with bond
iri the amount of $28,000.00 for water mains, with . the request for a separate
bond, for ,the water mains because, owner claims construction 'will start within
the' month 'of: July, and expects . to.,bb. .completed within a month!'s .time.
Messrs. -William Schriever and Floyd King discussed with the Board' ,
the application o.f Russell Tabor & 'Son,s, for change of-' zone on premis-es at..
Orient to' "B" .Business on which, application the T.own'Board 'h,ad as yet not-
acted upon. .
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Mr: Moisa stated. to the Board. that a letter had been received from
the Superintendent of Highways Raymond .C. Dean approving the layout .of pro
posed,`roads on premises of Mr. James, Dean .at- New .Suffolk.
Map of premises of John'. J. Lee at Bayvi'ew dated,May, -14; 1968 was" '
laid before the Board.
After- discussion', motion was made. 'and carried granting:, permission, to
divide. Lot No.;' 53 "Map of d.edar- Beach Park". into' .two 1.00 ,foot lots:
Mes'srs.. Howard Terry, . Lawrence Tuthill and Raymond C. Dean discussed,
with the Board pro.posed, changes. in subdivision regulations.
The ,Board recommended. that the proposed changes' be put- in -shape and
then presented to the Board.,. -
Motion was made and carried that, the minut,es ,of the Southold Town:
Planning Board meeting held on May. 22, " 1968 .be approved as sent out.
The, original petition of Oak Grove Realty Corporation, Greenport, .
IV.Y,.. for a -change of zone', from ;"A" ,Resid'e;ntial and Agricultural-: to '!B"
Business on certain property located at Greenpo.rt ; New .York, ,was reviewed.
On"motion duly made and seconded, it was
RESOLVED ,that ;the Southold Town Planning Boar d"recommend'.the change"
of zone from "A" Residential'and. Agricultural to "$" Business on premises
of.-Oak Grove Realty Gc4-pora.tion 'at, Greenport , New York
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The original petition of John Geier, North Road, Greenport , New
York, for a change of zone on certain property situated at Greenport, New
York, from "A" Residential and Agricultural to I'M" Multiple .Residence was
reviewed.
On motion duly made and seconded, it was
RESOLVED. that -the Southold Town Planning Board does not recommend
the change of zone on premises of John Geier at Greenport , N.Y. from "A"
Residential and Agricultural to "M" Multiple Residence since it is a limited
access County Road as per recommendations of the County Department of Public
Works.
Letter received from Leonard Zobler, Professor of Geography, Barnard
College , Columbia University, New York, requesting copy of Development Plan
for Southold Town, which letter was dated June 11 , 1968.
Under date of June 14, 1968, the Southold Town Planning Board advised
Professor Zobler that said plan had not been completed nor accepted by the
Town and that his request would be kept on file until such time as the plan
is ready for release.
Copy of letter dated June 3, 1968 from Hamilton Cochran of 109
Stratford Road, Wallingford, Pennsylvania, to Mr. Lefferts Edson, Southold,
New York, requesting information regarding right of way at Peconic Homes ,
Section II, was received by the Board.
Mr. Cochran is to be advised that there is an instrument in the files
of the Southold Town Planning Board covering this situation, which instrument
has been recorded in the Office of the Clerk of -the County of Suffolk and is
of public record.
Letter received from Daniel McNamara, Esq. , Lawyer, 65 Flatbush
Avenue, Brooklyn, N.Y. dated June 11 , 1968, requesting copy of Development
Plan.
Under date of June 12, 1968, the Building Inspector advised Mr.
McNamara that said plan was not final as yet , nor had it been accepted by
the Planning Board or the Town Board.'
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Letter received from Edwin A. Sultan, Assistant Secretary,
Manufacturers Hanover Trust Company, 350 Park Avenue, New York, N.Y.
dated June 12, 1968, requesting copy of Development Plan.
Under date of June 14, 1968, the Southold Town Planning Board ad-
vis4d Mr. Sultan that said plan had not been completed nor accepted by the
Town and that his request would be kept on file until such time as the plan
is ready for release.
Request received from Mr. Carl Andersen, Appraiser, Residential
Mortgage Department , The Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United
States, for copy of Master Plan when ready for release.
Mr. Andersen is to be advised that said plan has not been completed
nor accepted by the Town and that his request will be kept on file until
such time as the plan is ready for release.
Map of property of Leland B. Fraser at Nassau Point received re-
questing revision of frontage making even 100 foot lots out of each, map
dated May 3, 1968, amended June 13, 1968.
Motion was duly made and seconded that the map dated May 3, 1968,
as amended June 13, 1968., be approved and initialled by the Board.
July 17, 1968 was set as the date for -the hearing on Harbor Lights
Estates, Section III, Southold, New York.
Motion was duly made, seconded and carried that the Southold Town
Planning Board set 7:30 P.M. , Wednesday, July 17, 1968, at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold., New York, as the time and place of the next regular
meeting of the Planning Board.
The regular meeting of the Planning Board was adjourned at 11 :15 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
MarJo e K: -.White' cava.ge A ', .Sec . Pro Tem
Southold Town :Planning Board