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p ® SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Molsa
Alfred Grebe
William Unkelbach
M I N U. T E S
SPECIAL MEETING'OF PLANNING`BOARD
July 8 i, 1968
A special meeting of the Southold Town' Plann'ing Board was
held at the call of the: Chairman in- the Town C.lerkls Office at
7:30 P.M July, 8, 1968.
Present- were: 'Johm Wickham,. Chairman,,,.. Henry Moisaa. William
Unkelbach-,, Frank Coyle .(arrived late),,. (John' Wickham had 'to leave
early) i. Howard Terry Building Inspector g. Raymond -Dear, Superintendent
of Highways.
The' Chairman opened the meeting at 7:30 P:M
The minutes of the last meeting were on. motion of' Mro Moisaa
seconded by Mr. Unkelbach and unanimously carriedt approvedc as ,
mailed out.
There was further discussion on the matter of "Rolling Wood
Estates" map as . a minor- subdivision. ,The Board agreed that Mrs.
Fechtig will have to file formally for a minor subdivision at a
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fee of $10. 00 per lot and that she can keep the roads private as long
as they are a full 50 feet wide and a 100 foot turnaround at the end
and that she makes provision for maintaining the roads in good condition
permanently.
A letter .with these conditions is to be sent to Mrs.- Fechtig. as
promised at the last- regular meeting.
The minor subdivision of Peter`Warrent Peconic Bay Blvd. .. Laurel,
. New York .was approved as shown on the revised map at- the last regular
meeting. A letter of approval is to be sent- to William'Wickham, his
attorney.
The Building Inspector distributed lists of -subdivisions �in process,
those which are bonded and not bonded and old ones which . need to be
reviewed. The' Planning Board will study these and take action on them
as soon as possible .when. work on the Master Plan Study is finished.
A letter was received from the water resources commission a section
of :State Conservation Dept. approving the proposed dam and ponding at
the: "Howell-4Smithfield Park" project .in Pine Neck area.
There was further discussion on this-project and it was agreed to
go ahead with it,
A letter is to be -written to Mr. George' Wells of Glen Headi and to
the� Smith Brothersv that.-we have received this approval and want to
procede with the work.
John Wickham will see the soil conservation people later tonight
and get their plans for the project.
It was unanimously agreed to meet next Monday night- (July 15) to
continue work on Master' Plan' Study.
Reading and discussing Raymond & May Report, Book II resumed on
Page- 3 0.
Page 31. It was agreed the park area shown from Dam Pond east and
west be changed to eliminate the residential section in the- middle. The
park area should be on the westerly side of Dam' Pond, the public beach
area should probably be extended from the present Town leased beach
and the meadowland south of the Main Road put in a wetland program, possibly
with a small marina at- the entrance to the creek on the Orient side.
Page 32. Eliminate- the Paradise Point- Park -as shown .on Raymond &
May-Map. It would probably be better to concentrate - on developing the
county owned Cedar Beach Park property to a more intense use than to
have another small park to maintain in this highly residential neighbor,
hood which. has its own boat basin, large homes, etc.
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Page 32, Eliminate .the proposed park at the end of Indian Neck
Lane as shown- on Raymond &-May .Map.
.,We recommend enlarging the Southold Park' District at the southerly
end of South Harbor Road and entrance to' Richmond Creek,r, and possible use
of- the Commoners Land at Little Creek as a park or it be� put in wetlands
program.
Page 320 . Peconic Inlet Park -- We recommend this be- fully developed
and not expanded easterly in front- of the present residential development.
.. Should "Camp Dunes" become available at- some future - date this Mould
be a good park location with its frontage on Great 'Pond.
Page 32. Laurel' Lake: We recommend securing the land west of the
present Town owned property and any other land fronting on the lake that -
' can be secured. as soon as possible, this can be used for park and playground
or held for watershed development.
We do not recommend taking any of the land now .belonging to' Camp
Malloy,, as they will need more facilities as time goes on.
Page, 32. Maratooka Lake' Park -,-- We believe this should be left- with
the Mattituck- School property and be maintained by them as a "beauty ,spot"
for the Mattituck area.
Page 32. Deep Hole, Creek- Park. We think this can be eliminated
for the time being as the Mattituck 'Park-District is expanding its
holdings and making improvements' as''they. are required in their district%
Page 32. Fishers Island Park — The proposed park area south of the
airport cannot be used for this purpose because of the restrictions--in
the purchase agreement.
There is a definite need for a park- on the westerly end of the Island
and a .good bathing beach as well. We believe a local study should be
:made, .with recommendations from the year round residents of the Island
before a specific recommendation- is made,
Page 32. Marinas -" There was a long discussion on need for more
marinas and boating facilities -throughout the Town,, especially the
Greenport and west part of the Town. The condition of the existing
creeks, channels & .harbors, docking facilities, etc. was reviewed from
Orient- Point west. It was agreed some of these channels will need
"Maintenanace Dredging" in the .near future,
Provision will ,have to be made for many more "marinas"a, commercial
boat yards with repair and storage facilities,, fuel docks,, etc.
, Some, specific locations were discussed but nothing definitely
decided.
Page 33. There was little further discussion on. the "open spaces"
program .other than agreement on establishing a "wetlands" program as
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previously -discussed,
Page 34. Subdivision Regulations There have been proposals.-.for
changes in both the Subdivision/ Regulations and the Highway' Specifications
urgently needed for some time. These have been discussed from time to
time with the Town Board and the Highway Superintendent.
A -final proposal was drafted with the cooperation of -Mr, Raymond
Dean® Superintendent of Highwaysi and the following letter sent to the
Town Board to get their final approval:
July- 9& 1968
Southold Town Board
16' South Street
Greenport.. A,.I s New York 11944
Gentlemen;
After preliminary discussions with yonr 'Boards and several
meetings wa:th the Highway Superintendents the' Planning Board recommends
the following changes in both the Highway Specifications and Subdivision
Rules and Regulations:
1. All roads be laid out in a "station mark" system showing
elevations* percentage of- gradem, distances between station marks, etc.
2, Intergral curb and gutter be installed at all intersections
for at least ten ,(10) feet each side of the curve. also at_ all drain—
age inlet structures fro at least ten ,(10) feet each side of the inlet.
3, Intergral- curb and gutter on both sides of any road where
the grade is 5/ or more.
4. Full length curb on botch sides of all roads unless waived
by the' Superintendent of Highways and the' Planning Board.
5. Road Profile Maps to be done on large &Cale clearly readable
such ..maps should 'sh�ow all drainage structures*, pipess recharge basins® etc ,
not -more than one read per map.
The Subdivision Rules and Regulations to be amended as follows:
la Highway and improvement bond to include necessary drainage
structures,, etc. to take care of all run off water from any natural
drainage -way outside of the bounds of the subject Subdivision which
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will in any way tend to create a drainage problem within the sub-
division area.
2. . Preliminarymap to show all elevations on minimum five :(5)
foot- contours.
3. Six (6) copies of preliminary map and road profile maps to
be on large scale, -» clearly. readable — showing all. drainage. structures,
culverts, pipes, recharge basins, etc. using` "station mark .s.ystem"
with distances® grades, etc, clearly marked, to be submitted to the
Planning Board at the first meeting after a tenative approval is given.
4. Inspection fee to be 2% of bond estimate as submitted by
the Planning Board;s Engineer.
5. Require at least two days notice from the developer or his
contractor prior to any work or stage - of.-work - for each operation
necessary in b. subdivision given to both the Planning Board and
Highway`Dept. _so the construction inspector can be notified to be
present.
6. - A record sheet- of requirements for. each subdivision shall
be kept in the file of such subdivision and all "work progress"
reports shall be kept on file as submitted by the Construction
Inspector
7. - Provide for maintenance of private roads after construction .
bond release and prior to dedication to the Town by maintenance .
bond or not releasing the original bond or some o'txher means.
The Planning Board has received amny complaints about the roads
in ' some of. the subdivisions which were not bonded a few years ago,
and some other private roads.
Upon inspection it was found that some of these roads are in
very dangerous condition and a few instances nearly impassable.
Therefore we feel it is essential that some means be found to force
the developer to keep these roads in top condition at 'all times.
We intend to review all "unbonded" subdivisions and some of the
older subdivisions where roads are in bad condition or have not been
cut in and established yet in hopes something can be done to better
these roads.
It was voted to recommend and request that at least one Town
Board member be assigned to attend each regular 'Planning Board
Meeting so that the Town Board will be aware of and familiar with
what the Planning Board has before it and the problems that have -
to be faced.
Yours truly,
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Reading and discussion for the -evening was ended at page 35.
The next meeting will be Mondays July 15 at 7:30 Ponta' in the
Town 'Clerks Office.
Meeting Adjourned at 9:45 P.M,
Howard Terry,
Acting 'Secretary
J n` Wickham,. Chairman