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w0 S O UTH O LD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William Unkelbach
M I N U T E 'S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
February 4, 1964
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning
Board was called to order 7: 25' P.M. , Tuesday, February
4, 1964, at the Town Office,. Main Road, Southold,, New
York.
There were present: Messrs. John Wickham, Chairman,
Henry Moisa,. Alfred Grebe,,. Archibald Young,. and William
Unkelbach.
_ Also present: Messrs. Otto-W. Van Tuyl, Consultant.
and Howard Terry,. Building Inspector.
On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by-Mr. Moisa,. it was
: RESOLVED that the minutes of the Planning Board meeting
of January -7,, 1964 be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisar
Mr. Grebe,, Mr. Young,. and Mr. Unkelbach.
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Mr. Van Tuyl brought up for further discussion the
matter of the road name in the proposed subdivision of
"Sterling Homes" at the south side Manhanset Avenuer. ..
Greenport. The owners of this property requested that
the Planning Board reconsider letting them name the road
Stratmors Lane.
- The Board authorized a letter to be forwarded to Mr.
Christ Stratakis,, attorney-in-fact and co-owner of this
property advising that the Town of Southold has a clear cut
policy of not allowing two streets of the same name within
the same area. . Since the name Stratmors Road was used in
the development "Stratmors Estates" they would not be willing
to accept the name Stratmors Lane in the "Sterling Homes",
development.
The Board received the formal application and fee
for"Sterling' Homes". - The area of the land is 5.738 acres,
and it is bounded and described as follows: Beginning at
the intersection of the easterly line of Beach Road with the
southerly line of Manhanset-Avenue ''from said point. of
beginning running along said southerly line of Manhanset '
Avenue, S. 680 35' 50" E. 462.27 feet to a monument and
land of Bumble; . thence along said land of Bumble and along
the several lands of- LaVeglias Renner.,. Caser Getches,
Capuanor. Trilcott &Olsen, - S. 20 55" 00" W. 638.54 feet
to a- monument on the northerly line of said Beach. Road;
thence along said .northerly line of Beach Road, N. 830 15 '
10P W. 26.35 feet; thence northwesterly along the north-
easterly line of said .Beach Road on a curve to the right ,
having a ,radius of 386.0 feet. a distance of 533.25 feet;
thence along said easterly line of Beach Road, N. 40 06'
00" W.448.76 feet to the po-iht- of beginning.
Mr.. Lefferts P. Edson appeared before the 'Planning
- Board with Mr. Joseph..Schneider-a. President of'Eastern
Shores,... Inc., and Mr. Charles Morgan. He presented the
fee and formal application for 'the plat and the alternate
plan for' Sound Drive at the northerly end of the proposed
subdivision.
"Eastern Shores.. Inc. " contains 35.580 acres,, is ' located
on the north side of County, Route 2.7A,, Greenport,, and is '
bounded and described as ' follows: Beginning at a point on
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the northerly side of Middle Road (C.R. .27) (North Road)
distant 410.78 feet westerly when measured along the
northerly side of said Middle Road from the southwesterly;
corner of., iand now or formerly of' Frederick H. Tasker and'
from said point of beginning running thence westerly along
the northerly side of said Middle Road along an arc of a . +
curve bearing to the left having a radius of' 3852.72 feet' a ,
distance of 140. 91 feet to 'land now or formerly,-of Dennisi,
formerly of John P. Davies; running thence along said land
the following courses and distances: . (1) North 15 degrees
26 minutes West 115. 73 feet; (2) South 75' degrees 20 minutes
40 seconds West 120..21 feet to land now or formerly of Monroe
S. Burt; running thence along said land the following courses
and distances: (1) North 15 . degrees 55 minutes 50 seconds
West. 415 feet to Long Island Sound; running thence in a '
general easterly direction along the same,,, the tie line of
which bears North` 87 degrees 32 minutes 40 seconds East
609.36 feet to land now or formerly of. Cruess=, formerly of
William J..' Sutton, or Herbert Fordham; running. thence along
said land and along land of other. ownersr,- South 25 degrees
28 minutes 10 seconds 'East 1847 feet to land now or
formerly of said Frederick H.- Tasker; running thence along
said land South 68 degrees 19 minutes 40 seconds 'West 241. 02
feet; -running thence North 16 degrees 13 minutes 40 seconds
West 10 feet; running thence South 76 degrees ,37 minutes 40
seconds West 401. 76 -feet; running thence- 86uthe15 degrees
55 minutes 50 seconds East 470 feet. to the northerly side, of
said Middle Road at the poin t or place of beginning.
Included with the application was a• letter of intent
signed by ' the President of Eastern, Shores, Inc. stating as
. follows: "The corporations below named recognize that there
is an obligation to grant to the Town of Southold an area of
- land for recreational purposes in order to comply -with
regulations. and to obtain approval by the Board of a plat
of land. The corporations below named hereby express an
intention .to grant an area or areas of land to the Town
for such purposes during the course of the development of,
the property owned by the said corporations. The agreement
or agreements for such grants to the Town of Southold are;
to be specifically defined and agreed upon by the respective
parties during the course of this development process as it
progresses. "
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All parties concerned held a lengthy discussion
relative to the alternate plan for Sound Road. The
Planning Board was completely satisfied with the new
proposal but the owners did not agree. The matttr was
thoroughly discussed and finally the applicants stated
that they would be willing to go along with the wishes of
the Planning Board. In making this change it will not be
necessary to have a 10 ft. crosswalk in the center of the
main block in this subdivision.
Mr. Edson advised that he would have the map amended
to show the alternative approved plan and submit three
copies to the Planning ,Board.
Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Hoey and Mrs. Genevieve Daly and
presumably Mrs. Daly's; son, appeared before the Planning
Board to discuss the property in the Estate of Thomas F.
Daly at- the east side of Town Harbor Lane, Southold, New
York. The Board examined a suggested layout map dated
October ,23.,, 1962 by Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son® There is
public water along Town Harbor Lane and the developers
plan to extend it into the subdivision, therefore the lots
are laid out at 12,500 sq. ft.
The developers strongly objected to the idea of public
highways and did not wish to have access to the water avail-
able to the public. They were advised that they did not
have to build the roads immediately but the roads when they
are built would have to be to Town specifications and the
access would be required.
. After considerable discussion 3Aative to public water
and the road layout they decided to revise the map and
consult with the Suffolk County Health Department and Town
Highway Superintendent.
The Planning Board 'receive.dtfr om the Town Board the
petition of Millard A— Northridge.:, -Circle Drive, , Jamesportt
requesting a change of zone from. "A" Residentiai and
Agricultural District to "B" Business District on certain
property in Laurel with a request that, the Planning Board
prepare an official report defining the conditions described
in the petition and determine the area so affect with the
recommendation of the Board.
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This property is bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at a monumented point on the southerly line of
the Main (State) Road., said point- being the northeasterly
corner of herein described parcel and the northwesterly
corner' of land now or formerly of Kander,, said point also,
being 196. 97 feet westerly along the southerly line. of
Main (State) Road from the point- of intersection of the
westerly line of Bray Avenue and the southerly line of
Main (State) Road;,,- running thence,.. S. 20° 463 50" - E. 178.74
feet along land now or formerly of Kander to a monument;
running thence 'S. 690 131 10Y W. 50 feet along land now or
formerly of Katherine Tuthill to a monument; running thence
N. 200 46' 50" 'W. 164.37 feet. along land now or formerly of
Venteau Construction Corp. to a monument- on .the southerly
line of the Main (State) Road; running. thence N. 530 10=
5.0" E. 52. 03 feet to the point or place of beginning. . Said
parcel being lot 2 of subdivision map of George I. Tuthill,
- Section 1.. Laurel, Town of Southold,. New York,, filed with
the County- Clerk's Office as Map No. 861. Survey map of
Lot. 2 by Alden W. Young,, dated October 10, 1962.
The Board thoroughly discussed this proposal and it
was the opinion of the Board the remainder of the property
easterly to the corner"of Bray*Avenue be included in this
change of zone as well as Lot No. l to the west as this
,y property is all non-conforming at the present time.
On motion of' Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it
was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend at the
Town Board on its own motion change the zone from "A"
Residential a,ndprricultural District to. "B" Business
District .on Lots 1,, 2,, 3, 4, and 5 in the G. I. Tuthill
Subdivision, Section l,, located on the south side of' Main
(State) Road, Laurels, New York.
On Lot No. 1 there is a billboard and it is understood
the owner originally intended. to construct -a model house
on this lot. Lot- No. 2 is owned by the applicants Mr.
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Northridge,- and there is a non-conforming business
building located on the lot. On lots 3, 4, and 5 there
is presently located a non-conforming business use by
Mr. Kander.
This is rapidly developing as a business area. There
is already a gas station, masonry contractor, public garage,
non-conforming vegetable stand and a horse stable in this,
area.
Vote of 'the Board: A yes:- Mr.. Wickham` Mr. Moisa,
Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Planning' Board received from .the Town Board the
original petition of James V. and Frances J. Calfa of 82
Brightwood Street, Patchogue.. New York= requesting a change
of zone from "A" Residential. and Agricultural District to
"B" Business District on property' located on the west side
of 'North Main Streets Greenport, with instructions to prepare
an official report defining the conditions described in the
petition and determine the area so affected with the recommenda-
tion of the Board.
This property is bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at the northeast corner thereof' at a point on the
westerly line of Main Street said point being at the south-
east corner of land of Hergrueter; thence running southerly
along said westerly line of Main Street- S. 260 31' 50" ;E.'
a distance of 169.86 feet to the northeast corner of land
now or formerly of :Coveleski; thence running on a straight
line westerly partly along said land of Coveleski .and partly
along land now or formerly of Davidson S. 630 28' 10" W. '
to a point- 150 feet from said westerly line of 'Main Street;
thence running northerly along land belonging to-Davidson' on::-.
a line N. 260 31' 50" W. distance of 169.86 feet to land now
belonging to. Hergrueter; thence running Easterly S. 630 28'
loll W.- 150 feet along said straight line of property of
Hergrueter to the point or place of beginning. Map of
property surveyed for James V. & Frances J.- Calfa by-Otto
- W. Van Tuyl .&. Son dated July-24, 1961.
The applicant requests the change of zone from "A".
Residential and Agricultural' District to "B" Business
District to permit the construction of, a professional
building.
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It was the decision of the Board to further investigate
this property and submit their findings at the next Planning
Board meeting.
The Board very briefly discussed the proposed road
to be known as "Charlie's Lane" at New Suffolk. Two years
ago this Board had taken this matter up with the Suffolk
County Department of Public Works as Charlie's Lane joins;_
with a county route. At the present time a lot has been
sold on this proposed road and the owner wishes to build
but cannot obtain a building permit because the road has not
been approved and recognition of access cannot be granted
by the Board of Appeals because this road is not passable.
The Board again discussed the matter of widening
Griffing Street$ School Street-Extension and North Street
at- Cutchogue in connection with the proposed change of zone
from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business
District on the property of 'William J. Baxter,, Jr. and others.
A letter was received from William Wickham, attorney: stating
that he has been requested by the Baxter interests to advise
that they agree to dedicate five additional feet on either
side of Griffing Street from the Post Office northward and
five feet on either side of School House Road Extension
easterly to their boundary line.
Since it has been discussed before and theabove seems
to present a problem as to the continuity of the road it
was decided that the matter should be held for further
discussion with the Baxter interests.
Mr. Wickham reported that he talked with Mr. John
Diffigos of the New York State Bureau of Planning: Department
of Commerce and about ten days ago he talked with the heads
of three departments at Cornell regarding the future study
of the Town and everything seems to be in order. There
will be a pre-application meeting, at 7:30 P.M. ,, Thursday,,
February. 13, 1964 at the office of the Supervisor at
Greenport.
The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning
Board will be held 7: 30 P.M. , Tuesday,. March 10, 1964 at
the Town Office, Main Road, Southo14 New York.
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The Planning Board received from the Town Board a
resolution containing proposed amendments to the ;Building
. Zone Ordinance with instructions to prepare- an official
report - thereon.
The amendments proposed read as follows:
I. By amending Article IIIa- Section 300 of said
Ordinance by adding a new subdivision,, to be Subdivision
4A, to read as follows:
4A. Stables and riding academies, when authorized
as a special exception by the Board of Appeals as
hereinafter provided.
II. By amending Article III,.. Section 300, . Subdivision
6 of ,said Ordinance to read as follows:
6. Public utility buildings, structures,, or.
facilities, when authorized as a special exception
by the Board .of:Appeals, as hereinafter provided.
III. By amending' Article IV,, Section 400,, Subdivision-
s of said Ordinance to read as follows:
5. Offices, banks and financial institutions.
IV. By amending-Article xa, of said Ordinance by adding
0B
thereto a new section to be Section 100 , to read as follows:
- SECTION 1000B - In any District, no dwelling
shall be hereafter -.erected or altered unless
provision shall be made therein for not less - than
eight hundred and fifty (850) square .feet of space
within the exteaior of the foundation walls at
ground level exclusive of garage,, car park,, car
port., open porches or terraces, or' other. extensions
outside the body of the house. Provided,however,
that fifty (50) percent of the habitable area of
the second story may be used and applied to the
area requirement- of the first floor.
Norwithstanding anything hereinabove to the
contrary the area of the second floor shall be
e
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included in computing the' area of the total habitable
area when the finished floor of the second story has
a clear headroom of not less than seven and one-
half (7-i/2) feet with knee walls of not- less than
five (5) feet and when the second floor is ,serviced '
by a permanently-placed stairway.
The Planning Board members reviewed each proposal
and decided to hold this matter until thenext meeting for
further consideration.
Mr. Young wished the following items recordedin the
minutes as being matters he feels should be ;'considered and
action taken on in the near future:
The Town of Southold Highway Specifications should be .
revised and strengthened.
The sign portion of the ordinance should be revised
and enforced.
Parking in connection with new business buildings and
apartment houses should be carefully examined and enforced.
Each item:was discussed by the Board.
Mr. Young also brought up the fact the Town of Southold
will be celebrating its 325th anniversary' in 1965.
on motion of Mr. Young,, seconded by`Mr. Moisa. it-was
RESOLVED that a letter be forwarded to the Southold,
Town Board calling to their attention the fact 1965 will
be the. 325th anniversary of Southold Town and stating that
it is not too soon to start planning for it.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr.. Wickham,, Mr. Moisa:.'
Mr. Grebe,,. Mr. Young,, and Mr. Unkelbach.
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Mr. Grebe presented to the Board a newspaper article
from The Day,, New London,. Connecticut, in connection with
a proposed tunnel ander' Long Island Sound from .Long Island
to Connecticut.
It was agreed by the members of the Planning Board
that there are some serious problems that must be considered
in any discussion of ' a bridge or tunnel from Long Island
to Connecticut. One of them is the isolation requirements
of Plum Island and another is the conservation of the
natural beauty of Fishers Island.
The meeting adjourned at 10:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Judith T. Boken, Secretary
John Wickham, Chairman