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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-06/09/1964 IF Southold Town Planning Board O SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wyckham, Chairman Henry'Moisa. Alfred Grebe Archibald Young William Unkelbach MINUTE ' S SOUTHOLD TOWN 'PLANNING BOARD June 9, 1964 A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held at 7:30:P.M. , Tuesday, June 9, 1964, at�..the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs: John Wickham, - Chairman, Henry Moisa, _ Alfred Grebe, . Archibald Young, and William Unkelbach. Also present: Mr. Otto Van Tuyl, Consultant, and Mr. Howard Terry, Building Inspector. PUBLIC HEARING: On the question of approval of the following plat: Plat of property owned by Christ Stratakis, entitled Sterling Homes' at Greenport, consisting of a parcel of 'land of 5.738 acres, situated at Greenport, in the Town of, Southold, . Suffolk County, New York, and bounded and described as follows: Beginning at the intersection of the easterly line of Beach Road with the southerly line of Manhanset -Avenue; from said point of beginning running along said southerly line of Manhanset Avenue, . S. - 680 353 50" .E.-462.27 feet to a monument and land of Bumble; thence along said land of Bumble and along the several lands of Southold Town 'Pla_-__ ng Board .-2- June 1964 LaVeglia, Renner, Case, Getches, . Capuano, Trillcott, &-Olsen, S. 20 559 0011 'W.-638.54 feet to a monument on the northerly line of said Beach. Road; thence along siad. northerly line of 'Beach Road N. 830 15' 10" W.-26.35 feet; thence northwesterly along the northeasterly line_ of said Beach Road on a curve to the right having a radius of 386. 0 feet, . a distance of 533.25 feet; thence along said easterly line of 'Beach Road, N.' 40 06' 00" W.-448.76 feet to the point of beginning. The'.Chairman read the legal notice of 'hearing, and' the affidavit attesting to its publication in the official -newspaper. The Chairman stated that he had the final maps signed by the Board of Health, and a letter of. appr-oval for the roads from the- Superintendent -of Highways. THE 'CHAIRMAN: ' Everything seems to be in -Order. Is there anyone who would like to speak in opposition to this subdivision? (There was no response. )% THE 'CHAIRMAN: Hearing none, does anyone wish to speak in favor of this subdivision, - Sterling Homes, in Greenport? CHRIST 'STRATAKIS: We own the- property. - We have engaged Mr. Van Tuyl°s 'services to draw. up the subdivision and we -required the approval of the Board on the preliminary drawing by Mr. Van Tuyl. THE' CHAIRMAN: As I said everything seems to be in order. There seems to be no problem. We will close the hearing,, than latter this evening take action on it. As things seems to be in order and there are none opposing it,,, I don'tt think it will be any problem. one of the problems that has arisen.,t,. and -this goes for all- sub- divisions.,, is some times the Planning Board has accepted the roads, and highways but the Town has not when these subdivisions are. _ ready to dedicate to the Town. The Town has recently changed the specifications for dedication and, it -now . takes a year'and a half for 'approval., therefore, it is not possible oto dedicate now. Under the circumstances.:: we have to require all bonds upon the completetion of the highways. CHRIST 'STRATAKIS: As Mr. Van Tuyl knowsz. we do have a contract -with Latham-Sand and Gravel Company. We have spoke to Mr. Smith Sou-thold .Town Pla_,,_._'ing Board -3- June -) 1964 and requested that he .undertake the running of the plumbing and he :said he woul& be happy to do so. I think the only .problem we may have would be the drainage of the roads. THE CHAIRMAN: . The Town Attorney on this says once this map is filed and registered with the County Clerk's `Office?. our hads are tied. We are suppose to make all arrangements prior to the filing of the map and again we have done this a few times ain the past., but .we haven't done it often enough. I do know that -the Town Attorney says you -have to file a bond for this. Now just how we sare going to work this out,. I don't know. We haven't done it - often enough so that we can very well take a week or 10 days. CHRIST STRATAKIS: Who does the work fob: the final.? THE' CHAIRMAN: We have `our own engineer who does this work for us. CHRIST STRATAKIS: The signing of- the contract would be setting the proformance bond THE' CHAIRMAN: Inyq�r sew of the fact- we sign on this,, I feel that from now on we have to approve this more carefully than we have in the past. -We swill start immediately on this, assuming that it- gets the approval of the Town Board. Is .there any reason that you couldn't put up. a proformance bond? CHRIST. STRATAKIS: No. THE CHAIRMAN: We had hoped to profit by having all our high- ways dedicated. . We will get the Town Board to look at -this on the 16th_, of June. CHRIST STRATAKIS: We will have to set the amount. -of th.e proformance bond? THE CHAIRMAN: Yes. . CHRIST STRATAKIS: Do we submit this tothe Town Board or to the Planning Board? HOWARD TERRY,. Building Inspector: To the Town Board. Southold Town Pl'_,_,4ing Board -4- Jul- 9, 1964 THE CHAIRMAN: Highways are in contract having to comly to laws set down by the 'State. The Town has to move in after the proformance ,bond is forfeited. CHRIST STRATAKIS: That is quite all right. THE CHAIRMAN: . Is there anyone who would like to say anything further in connection, with this subdivision? (There was no response. ) THE CHAIRMAN: If 'there is northing else to be presented at this hearing,, I will declare it -closed. Lefferts 'P. Edson,, Esq. .. appeared before the Board with Mr. Henry Smith to discuss proposed subdivision at Peconic,, New York,,. entitled "Peconic' Shores". Mr. Nelson Axiens. an adjoining property owner 'appeared to express his concern about his access. He now has a right-of-way and wants to know if he will still -have access to the public road after the subdivision is constructed. There was some question about the :boundries and the location of the proposed right-of-way. Mr. Wickham suggested that .Mr. Smith and Mr. Axien confer together with their lawyers and decide on the location ofthe right-of-way. Mr. Axien also wanted to know if all the highways in the subdivision had to be dedicated, or if just some of them could be dedicated. He was informed that if the. . roads were dedicated tothe Town,, they would all be dedicated and not just some of them. Mr. Alfred Teeves appeared before the Board to discuss the possibility of constructing a subdivision at Boisseau Avenue,, Southold, New York. Mr. Wickham informed him it would -be better 'if 'he filed it in two sections. The Chairman also explained , to Mr. Teeves the problems with the highways .and the requirements they must meet to be dedicated tothe Town. Mr. Teeves _said he was going to keep all the trees offfthe front- of the property and the wires off the roads for estatic reasons. Mr. Teeves also brought up the question of an . entrance gate. The Board informed him that .all entrance gates must be 35 feet from the - highway,, and that he should discuss this with Harold Price,, Superintendent of Highways. Mr. Wickham advised Mr. Teeves Southold Town Ph-_-_°_zing Board -5- Ju°'L__ 9s 1964 that he should make a preliminary application for= a subdivision. Mr. Teeves said that nnothing was definite and that he was also considering putting in apartment houses. Mr, Wickham said that personally he did not approve of this type of thing in Southold Town, Robert Trumanbach appeared before the Board to discuss putting in a numbering system . in the Town of 'Southolds, whereby lots., blocks., and houses would be numbered for clearer and acurate idenification. This numbering system would be caraied through when land is developed. This idea is something for . the Board to look further into. - -Mr. and Mrs. Leroy Brown., Greenport-s, New York., appeared before the Board in reference' to the Island's `End Golf and Country Club's application for a change of 'zone. They, wanted to know the size of the property that was in question fora change. Mr. - Wickham read the legal notice tothems, however'., he explained that he would not discuss it -at lenght with them: Mr. and Mrs. Brown felt that the parking vlot-which is adjoining their property would be a noise hazard and hence affect their business. The Planning Board then went back to the application of Christ- Stratakis's subdivisions; Sterling Homes and discussed it. On- motion by Mr. Moisa,, seconded by Mr. Youngs: it was RESOLVED that approval be given to the subdivision entitled "Sterling Homes"., subject to the signing of "proformance bonds, and the approval of the Town Board. - Vote of the Board: Ayes: mr. , Wickhamd Mr. Moisa., Mr. Grebes, Mr. Youngs Mr. Unkelbach. Southold. Town Pl _,riing Board -6- JuY��, , 9, 1964 On motion by Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was, , RESOLVED that the 'PlanningBoard set 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, June 30, 1964, Town Office,_ Main Rpad, Southold,' New York, as , time and place for hearing on the question of .approval of the following plat: Plat of property owned by Henry Smith,, entitled Peconic Shores at -Peconic, consisting of, a parcel of land of approximately 21.62 acres, situated at :Peconic,, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York,, and bounded and described as follows: Beginning-at a point on the northerly side of North Road' where the. same is intdtedected by the westerly side of land now or formerly of J. or Vincent --Simeoni formerly-William B. Codling and from said point ',of beginning running . thence along the . northerly side of North Road the following courses and -distances: (1) South 60 degrees 15 minutes 20 seconds' West 43.29 feet; (2) South 61 degrees 04 minutes 50 seconds 'West 257.75 feet to land now or formerly of G. or H. Stepnoski; running thence along said land the following courses and distances:. (l) North 44 degrees 08 minutes 40 seconds' West 253. 64 feet; (2) South 60 degrees 0.9 minutes 'West 100.30 feet to land now or formerly. of -George: M. - Williamson formerly Floyd W. Vail;, running thence along slid land the following coursd.s and distances: (1) North 44. degrees 26 minutes 50 seconds West 457.63 feet; (2) North 36 degrees 27 minutes 50 seconds `West 169.85 feet; (3) North 45 degrees 17 minutes 10 seconds west 218 feet; (4) North 47 degrees 59 minutes 20 seconds: West 1029 -73 feet to land now or formerly of Frederick �L. Henn; running thence along said land North 44 degrees ' 53 minutes 30 seconds -East 518.49 feet -to .land now or formerly of -Leslie formerly.--William B. Codling; running thence along said land .and along land now or formerly of M. Gowan formerly:-William B. Codling and along. land now or formerly of -Prudential Lumber 'Co. formerly William B._ Codling and along land now or formerly of`�. or Vincent =Simeoni formerly William B. Codling South 42 degrees 09 minutes 30 seconds- East 2238.22 feet to the northerly side of'North Road at the point or place of beginning. Vote of- the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham,. Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,, Mr. Young, Mr. Unkelbach.. Southold Town ,Pla::..'ng Board -7- Junc -- .;, 1964 The Planning Board received from the Town Board a petition for a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District by Island's End Gold and- Country ,Cluld with the instructions to prepare an official report defining the conditions described in the petition and determine-the area so effected with the recommendation of the Planning Board. The request- for 'this change of zone is made for 'the purpose of operating the Golf and-country club on a public basis instead of -on a membership.basis. This property is bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a concrete monument on the northerly line of the Main Road at the southeasterly corner of land of Ernest Wiggins and the southwesterly corner of. land of Floyd- King; from said point :of beginning running along said land of'Wiggins, north 360 04' M' west, 300 feet; thence along said land of Floyd. King, north 660 .391 50" east,. 190.61 feet to landof Wayland Brown; thence along said land of Wayland Brown,, south ,360 031 40" east,. 106.84 feet; thence along land of :LeRoy Brown, south 330 451 40" east, 193,,.16 feet to said northerly line of the Main Road; thence along said northerly line,, south 67" 08' 30" west,. 183. 0 feet to the point-- or place ,of beginning. On motion by Mr.'-Moisa, seconded by. Mr. Grebe,., it was RESOLVED that the Planning Board- is not going to take an immediate action on- this application. They are going to hold it for 'fur.ther investigation and study. Vote, of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham,, Mr. Moisa,. Mr. Grebe, Mr. ''Young, Mr. Unkelbach. The Planning Board received from the Town Board a resolution containing proposed amendments to the Building -Zone Ordinance with instruction to prepare an official report thereon. The amendments proposed read as follows: I. By amending Article III,,- Section 300, of said Ordinance by adding a new subdivision,. to be subdivision 4A,. to Lead as follows: 4A. Stables and riding academies, when authorized - as a special exception by the Board of' Appeals as hereinafter provided. Southold Town PlL..ling Board -8- Jux.- 9.., 1964 II. By amending .Article III,, Section 300, subdivision 5-of said Ordinance to read as follows: 5. Clubs,, fraternity houses and golf courses, when authorized as a special exception by the Board of Appeals as hereinafter provided. III. By amending Article IVO Section 400, subdivision 5 of said Ordinance to read as follows: 5. Offices,, banks..., and financial institutions. IV. By amending Article IV,, Section 400.., subdivision 10 of said- ordinance to read as follows: 10.- Storage houses.. express carting or hauling offices or stations,, . ice manufacturing,, yards for storage and sale of coal and building materials. V. By amending Article X* of said Ordinance by adding thereto a new section to be' Section 1000B,, to read as follows: Section 1000B - No dwelling shall be hereafter be erected or altered in any district- unless provisions .shall be made therein for not less than %eight hundred and fifty (850) square feet -of space within the exterior of the foundation walls at ground level exclusive -of 'a garage, carport,. carpark,, open porch.. or 'terraces,, or other 'extensions outside the body of the house. Provided, however,, that fifty (50%) percent of the habitable area of the second story may be used and applied to the areaa requirement of the first floor. Notwithstanding anything hereinabove to the contrary the area of the second floor shall be included in computing the .-.area of the total habitable area when the finished floor of the second story has a clear -headroom -of not less than seven and one-half (732-) feet -with knee walls of not less than five (5) feet and when the second floor 'is serviced by a permanently placed stairway. The provisions of this section shall not apply to dwellings located within a tourist -camp as defined in the 'Southold Town Ordinance, providing for .the regulation of tourist camps, house trailer camps-,, house trailers Southold Town . Pla_�.__,_,ng Board -9- June , . 1964 or 'similar establishments when a permit for such tourist camp has been issued by the Town Board pursuant to the provisions of said Ordinance. On motion by Mr. Moisat seconded by Mr. Young., it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board favorably recommends tothe Town Board the above amendments to the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance. The Planning Board finds that the changind- of the . times and demands .on the Town have increased to the point where we feel that the proposed changes in the Ordinance are necessary. The Planning Board feels that these changes are in the public interest of the Town of Southold.. Vote of. the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisaa. Mr. Grebe.., Mr. Young, Mr. Unke lbach. Mr. Howard Terry, Building Inspector attended the Riverhead Town's Master' Plan preliminary meeting.., and gave a brief report on it to' the Planning- Board. The biggest --objection tothe Plan was the apartment houses and green belt., which is open farm land. The term "green belt" was not looked -upon favorably. LAwrence. Tuthill came to the meeting tolobtain information of "Peconic' Shores" and"Sterling Homes"to make an estimate for proformance bonds. on motion by Mr. Moisa.., seconded by Mr. Unkelbach,, it was RESOLVED that the Planning Board minutes dated May 5, 1964,, be approved as 'submitted. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr, Wickham... Mr. Moisa,. Mr. Grebe,. Mr. Young.., Mr. Unkelbach. Southold Town .B&_��d of' Appeals -10- o,ane 9,,1964 The subdivision,,. "Eastwood Estates".t_. Section Ihe. was discussed briefly by the Board. , On motion by Mr. Moisa,, seconded by Mr. Grebe,, it was RESOLVED that tentative approval be given to the maps of Eastwood Estates,, Section II. Vote of the Board:. Ayes: Mr. Moisa,, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young Mr. Unkelbach. Mr..- Wickham did not vote. The Planning Board received an application from Race 'Point Corp. ,, Fishers Island,, New York, for a subdivision. The Board held a lenghty discussion on this proposed subdivision. The application was> not in complete form to meet the requirements of the Planning Board. A letter was forward to Mr. James Manning, with carbon copies of said letter to Chandler&- Palmer, Alfred. Grebe,, Supervisor-Albertson,, Otto Van Tuyl,, and James E, Plymire,- Esq. ,, recommending ways in which the application for 'the subdivision could be improved. The Planning Board received from Ernest W... Whitlocke. Malcolm Pirnie-'Engineers the proposals for the study of ground water in the Town of Southold. The Board discussed them. On motion by Mr. Unkelback, seconded by Mr.. Wickham,,it was RESOLVED that the 'Planning Board recommend that the Town Board also approve the proposals for the study of ground water in the Town of Southold. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham,, Mr. Moisa,, Mr. Grebe,, Mr. Unkelbach,, Mr. Young. Southold Town P7 _ ,:;ling Board 11- J,_ 9z, 1964 The Chairman dictated three letters to the Secretary. (1) . To Mr. Ernest�W. Whitlock,. Malcolm, Pirnie Engineers., informing him that the 'Planning Board met and approved the proposals,, and submitted them to the Town Board with the recommendation that they approve them. (2) To the Town. Board informing them that the Planning Board accepted the proposals of 'Malcolm'Pirnie 'Engineers and recommend that the Town Board also approve them. . (3) To Mr. John Diffigos,r, Department of Commerce. informing him that the proposals of Malcolm Pirnie 'Engineers had been accepted by the Planning Board and that copies of the proposals were sent with the letter in hopes that work will commence as soon as possible on this ,pooject. The next.meeting of the 'Southold Town Planning Board will be held 7:30 P.M. ., Tuesday,,, June 30., 1964., aththe Town Office... Main Road.; Southold,, New York. Meeting adjourned 11: 00 P.M. Respectfully submitted., i Barbara L. Carroza. .Secreta,ry ohn Wickham.' Chairman i i