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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-06/30/1964 Southold 'Town Planning Board O • SOUTHOLD, L. a., N. Y. PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wickham, Chairman Henry Moisa Alfred Grebe Archibald Young William Unkelbach MINUTES SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD June 30, . 1964 A regular meeting of the- Southold Town Planning Board was held 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, June 30, 1964,. At the Town Office, Main Road, - Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs: Archibald Young, Acting Chairman, Henry Moisa, . Alfred Grebe, William Unkelbach, John Wickham came to the meeting at 7:50 P.M. There were also present: Mr. Otto .Van Tuyl, . Consultant,• and Howard Terry, Building Inspector. PUBLIC HEARING: On the question of 'approval of the following plat: Plat of property owned by Henry Smith, entitled Peconic Homes at Peconic, consisting of a parcel of land of approximately 21.,62 acres, situated at .Peconic, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, and bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a point on thennortherly side of North Road where the same is intersected by the westerly side of land now or formerly of 'J. or Vincent' Simeoni formerly-William B. Codling and from said point of beginning `running thence along the northerly side of North Road the following courses and distances: (l) South 60 degrees 15 minutes 20 secpnds West 43. 29 feet; (2) South 61 degrees 04 minutes 50 seconds West 257. 75 feet to land now or' formerly of G. or H. Stepnoski; running thence along said land the following courses and distances: (1) North 44 degrees 08 minutes 40 seconds 'West 253.64 feed. i Southold Town Planning Board:n -2 Junes . 0, 1964 (2) South 60 degrees 09 minutes West 100.30 feet to land now or formerly of George M.- Williamson formerly Floyd W. Vail; running thence along said land the following courses and distances: (1) North 44 degrees' 26 minutes 50 seconds`West 457.63 feet; (2) North 36 degrees 27 minutes 50 seconds'West 169.85 feet; (3) North 45 degrees 17 minutes 10 seconds @West 218 feet; (4) North 47 degrees 59 minutes 20 seconds `West 1029..73 feet to land now or formerly of Frederick L. Hehn;' running thence along said land North 44 degrees 53 minutes 30 seconds'.East 518.49 feet to land now or formerly of :Leslie, formerly William B. Codling; running thence along said land and along land now or formerly of M. Gowan formerly William B Codling and along land now or formerly of Prudential Lumber Co. formerly William B. Codling and along land now or formerly of; J. Or Vincent .Simeoni formerly William B. Codling South 42 degrees, 09 minutes 30 seconds East 2238. 22 feet to the northerly side' of North Road at the point or place of beginning. The Chairman read the application for the subdivision, notice of hearing, and affidavit attesting to its publication in the, official newspaper. He also read letter of approval of the road layout from the Superintendent of Highways. THE 'CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who would like to speak in opposition oto this subdivision? Mr. Nelson' Axien, an adjoining property owner looked at the map of the subdivision, but did not say anything. THE'CHAIRMAN: Are there any questions you would like to ask about this subdivision? NELSON AXIEN: No. THE' CHAIRMAN: Are there any others that would like to speak in opposition to this subdivision? (There was no response. ) THE'CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who would like to speak in favor of this subdivision? 'LEFFERTS P. EDSON,ESQ. :Having complied with all the requirements, and making the suggested_changed for the final map, . I ask that the Board give approval to this subdivision. The only thing I am not sureabout is the setting of the bond. Southold Town Planning Board -3- Jun�f '30, 1964 HOWARD TERRY: Larry is going to bring the final estimates for the bond . He said he would be here by 7:30. He should be here soon. LEFFERTS P. EDSON,ESQ. : Then I will ask approval subject to the setting of the amount of the bond, and the completion of the roads. THE' CHAIRMAN: Anyone else wish to speak in connection with this subdivision? (There was no response- ) The CHAIRMAN: Then I will close the hearing, at this time,. and the Board will make their decision later this evening. Two representatives of the Thomas F. Daly Estate appeared before the' Planning .Board to discuss the layout of property. The' first thing discussed was, the access roads. The Board advised them that the roads would have to have turn arounds,. so that fire, emergency and snow equipment would have ample room to turn around. There is presently a private road in the estate which they wish to keep private. The Board chid not look on this favorably. They @lamed that usually the road is not maintained properly. Also the Board must look into the future when the land might change ownership, and noQone wants to keep up the road. . The Board advised the representatives that they would have to put up a bond that water will be put in. Not all the lots have to have water at the. smae time, but .must'have water in order to ._ sell them. They discussed the possibility of changing the lot size. The Board advised that the lot size cannot be changed once a map is filed, however, 1z lot may be sold to one person. The Board advised that they file a map for a subdivision and fill out the necessary application forms. Southold Town Planning Board -4- June 30, 1964. Mr.- Wickham took charge of the meeting at 8:30 P.M. The Board next looked at the application of 'Island's 'End Golf and Country Club fora chage of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District. The Board asked Ernest Wiggins and Floyd King to attend this meeting to express their views on this change of zone. The Chairman explained that no recommendation had been made to the Town Board as yet because the Board felt that they should have the opinion of the owners of the land before making a recommendation. Mr. King wanted to know the _-h,istroy of the application. He said he was originally asked to go along with 100 acres. The Chairman advised him that the Planning Board has never approved anything over_ 20 acres and don't expect to. The Chairman also explained that the Planning Board only makes the recommendation and does not make the final decision in a change of zone. Mr. King wanted to know the size of the property in question for a change of zone. The Chairman read the legal description to him, describing the property in question. The Board, Mr. King and Howard Terry discussed the percentage of the business that was done with the public. It,was determined that the club is doing business mainly for the public. The Board looked at a brochure sent out by Island's' End Golf& Country Club inviting the public to enjoy their facilities. The Board felt that the owner of the property should make the application for the change or at least sign the petition. Mr. King stated that he was asked to sign the petition by he refused. Mr. King also felt that a golf club should be in a residential area. However, Island's End Golf and Country -Club also has a restaurant and bar which is being-tan for business. There was concern over the fact that if this ,is zoned business, any type of business could be put there at a later date. The Board and Mr. King held a discussion on what classified it as a business. They advised him that-when - the public were bought in off the road, it is a business. It was bought- out that the club is advertising in newspapers, inviting,�the public to the club, ' and they also have a sign,, plus the brochure that was brought out earlier in the discussion. Mr. and Mrs. LeRoy Brown were also present at the meeting to express their concern. Mr. Brown was concerned were the parking lot would be located. The noise of s:lamiagddoors, etc. would affect '- Southold ,Town Planning Board -5- June 30, 1964 his business. Mr. Young brought out the fact that Island' s End Golf & Country Club have to have their property rights. In order to have this property zoned business, it would have to have a public hearing by the Town Board. Mr. Brown would be given a chance then to express his concern. Mr. Wiggins also stated that he did not want the property zoned business. Mr. Unkelbach again brought out the fact that the application . should be signed by the owners of the land. Mrs. LeRoy Brown suggested that maybe. ther a was something in the contract which permitted the golf club to ask for a change of zone without the permission or signature of the owners. The discussion ended and the, Chairman thanked Mr. Wiggins and Mr. King for attending the meeting and giving their opinons. The Board looked at the estimate for bond for roads for ' Henry Smith, Peconic Homes, as submitted by Lawrence Tuthill. Mr. Tuthill recommended a bond of $10, 000. 00. On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Young, it was RESOLVED that approval be given to Henry-Smith's subdivision Pecon;ic. Homes, and approval 'be given to the estimate for ' the bond for the roads with a 25/ to 50% increase above estimate. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr.- Wickham, Mr. Moisa, . Mr. Young, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. The Board looked at the estimate for bond for roads for Christ-Stratakis, Sterling Homes, as submitted by Lawrence Tuthill. ' Mr. Tuthill recommended a bond of $6, 000. 00. On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that-approval be given to Christ-. Stratakis's subdivision Sterling Homes, and approval be given to the estimate for ' the bond for the roads with a 25/ to 50/ increase above estimate. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Young, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. Southold Town Planning Board --6-- -June 3,0, 1964 The Board next briefly discussed Eastwood Estates, Section II. The applicant's would like to get this subdivision underway. Mr. Van Tuyl is already to go ahead and make the final maps. The Board, briefly discussed the water and sewage problem. The Board considered the application fora change of zone from Island's 'End Golf and Country Club, Greenport, New York. This request was for a change from "All Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District on property located in Greenport, New."York, and more particularly bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a concret& monument on thenortherly line of the Main Road at the south- easterly corner of land of Ernest,Wiggins and the southwesterly corner. of land of Floyd King; , from said point of beginning running along said land of Wiggins, north 36* 04' 00" west, 300 feet; thence along; said land of Floyd King, north 660 39' 50" east, 190. 61 feet to land of Wayland Brown; thence along said land of'Wayland Brown, south 36° 03 ' 40" east, 106.84 feet; thence along land of:LeRoy Brown, south �33° 45' 40" east, 193. 16 feet to said northerly line of the Main Road; thenc along said northerly line, south 670 08' 30" west, 183. 0 feet to the point or place of beginning. On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was RESOLVED that the Planning Board does not recommend to the Town Board the change of zone from-, "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B"' Business District on the property of ' Island's' End Golf and Country Club at Greenport, as described above, for the following reasons 1. This is a residential area and there is at present no other "B" Business District nearby, and if granted -this .would constitute spot zoning. 2. Judging by the informal discussions with the residents in the area at previous meetings of the Planning Board, they are opposed to a business being conducted in this area. 3.. We beleive that there is a very real' question about the Validity of this application, in view of the fact that the owners of this property did not join in the application. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr.Moisa, Mr. Young, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. I Southold Town Planning Board -7- June 30, 1964 On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the' Southold Town Planning Board, dated June 9, 1964, be approved as submitted. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Young, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe. The Board briefly discussed inviting Shelter Island Planning Board to attend one of their meetings. This will be done sometime in the near future. A letter was written to Supervisor `Evans Griffin, Shelter' Island, advising him of the Southold Town Planning Board's interest in his proposal to divide the county. The planning Board advised him that they would like ' to know more about this plan. The next-meeting of the' Southold Town ' Planning Board will be held 7:30 P.M. , Monday, July 13, 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, Meeting adjourned 10: 00 Respectfully submitted, Barbara L. Carroza, Secretary John Wickham, Chairman