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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-09/21/1964 Southold Town Planning Board d !� S O UTRO LD, L. I.? N. Y. PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wickham, Chairman Henry Moisa Alfred Grebe' Archibald Young William Unkelbach MIN 'UT 'ES SOUTHOLD TOWN.*PLANNING 'BOARD September 21r,, 1964 A regular meeting of the- Sodhold Town Planning Board was held 7:30 P.M:,- Mondays September 21,E 1964, at the Town Officer, Main Road, SoutholdI New York. There were present: Messrsl, John Wickhamr. Chairman:' Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe„ Archibald Youngt- William Unkelbach. Also present: Mr.- Rod Van Tuyll, Consultant,. Mr. Howard Terry,, Building Inspector. PUBLICj..t HEARING: Upon question of 'approval of 'the following plat.of property: Plat of property owned by Harold Reese,, entitled "Harbor- Lights Estates. " THE-CHAIRMAN: I will read the legal notices however I am not going to read the legal description. "LEGAL NOTICE,' NOTICE OF HEARINGS' NOTICE IS HEREBY, GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276 of 'the Town Law, public hearing will 'be Yfbld by the Southold Town Planning Board at the Town Office,. Main Road,, Southoldr, New York, in said Town on the 21st day of September, 1964,, Southold Town P,�_ �,ming Board -2- Se_ Jamber 21=, 1964 at 7:30 o3clock in the evening of 'said day,,, on the question of approval of. the following plat. "l. Plat of property owned by Harold Reeser; entitled "Harbor -Lights Estates at-Southolds consisting of a parcel of land .of 41 acres&': situated at- Southold=' in the Town of Southold,- Suffolk -Countyr-New Yorkr, .and bounded and described as follows: (the legal description was notread) "Any person desiring to be heard on the above matter should Appear at the time and place above specified. "DatedeAugust 17s, 1964s. BY 'ORDER OF THE 'SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD', JOHN"WICMIAK CHAIRMAN. " THt 'CHAIRMAN I will recess this hearing until the next meetings, in view of 'the fact: that this subdivision has not met the requirements of the' County Health Department. Mr. .Nelson Axien had a few questions he wanted to ask the Board regarding the subdivision,,"Harbor'Lights" Estates". He questioned the "Reserved for Beach- Area" on the map of the subdivision. He was of the opinion that if 'the beaches.- were not large enoughs that the people would be crowding over:,onto other beaches. The' Chairman hdvised that there is a rule that 'so much beach area is required for certain number ' of lots or for a certain area. The chairman also advised that these beaches could be private. Mr. Axien stated he would be interested.to know just how much beach area would be allocated to each person. Mr. Unkelbach pointed out- that there is approximately 1000 feet of ' shore area. If you take the average family of three or four peoples there will be about 200 people on 1000 feet of shore area&'. if it remains to be a private beach. Mr. Axien also wanted to be sure that this - "reserved for beach area,, could not 'later' be sold .for building lots. Mr. Unkelbach advised that once the final map of the subdivision is filed in the Suffolk.. -County:Clerks Offices. it can not-be changeds and the beach area can not be used for building lots. Mr.-- Axien's next question to the Board dealt with a piece of property adjoining this subdivision which is presently zoned Industrial. - Mr. Axien pointed out that on the map it said that "all land hereon and abutting is within an "A" Residential and Agricultural-District%. He felt- that the use of those words implied that there was no land adjacent to this subdivision that - was industrial. He also felt that the' Planning Board should on their own motion make an application to change this industrial Southold Town P,auaning Board -3- SENi-amber 21a. 1964 property to residential property. The- Chairman stated that it was up to the Town Board to make a change �of 'zone on their own motion. However, the Chairman said that the' Planning Board would discuss this with Mr. Reese and. see what his ' attitude was on the matter. This matter can be discussed when Mr. Reese appears for . the hearing.Mr. William Pollert .also' at .the hearing was in .favor of upzoning this industrial property to residential property. The Chan advised that-Mr. Reese should first be consulted before any action be- taken on the zoning of his property. Mr.. Pollert- agreed that it would be a good idea to go and talk with Mr.- Reese. The Chairman also advised that the Planning Board is always in favor of upzoning an area. . ;(Both Mr. Nelson AxienEand Mr.. William'.Pollert are members of the' Southold-Peconic 'Civic'A`ssociatbn) The Chairman reported that he had talked with Mr.- Whitlock of MALCOLM ',PIRNIE ENGINEERS, and Mr. Whitlock sent a copy of the 1963 hydrological study of 'the Town of2Southold. it is apparent that the ground .water supply is more limited than was ,thought. - Mr. Whitlock inteAds to start-within the next 'three months -to -make laboratory analysis of specific areas of the Town. Mr. Wickham also made a report .on the Cornell Study. He reported that the Cornell people had very excellent.. response from the town people. This group interview- 100 farmersr there were only three farmers 'that refused to be interviewed. - About 85% of the farmers in Southold Town were interviewed. THe Chairman stated that he had .letters in his files from people in other Towns, stating that they wish that: their' Town or:City would undergo such a project. Mr. Ax:tm wanted to know who was responsible for undertaking this project. - The Chairman advised that the Planning Board was responsible' for 'this study. - Mr.. Pollert wanted to know if the Planning Board would use some of the recommendations from this study. The Chairman stated they would. He also -stated that.Cornell University has put up some of their own money for ' this study. Mr.- -young stated that some of the young men on this committee were working for 'thei.r master degree. Therefore, through this study the Town also helped some of 'these young men obtain their education. The Chairman pointed out that the man in charge of this project has done the same thing in Sacramento County in California, so that this type of thing is not new to them. The' Chairman stated that- the Board feels very fortunate. Southold Town. Pla�iiiing Board -4 Seypr=inber. 21, 1964 Mr. Lawrence Tuthill had a question pertaining to the new highway specifications in regard to the planting of new trees.,. The-:Chairman stated that they have not been requiring it. He felt that the less control in this respect the better it would be, providing, however, that the people did not take advantage of it. Mr. Lawrence Tuthill presented the. estimate for the bond for 'the roads in "Harbor 'Lights Estates". His estimate was $25,000,00.. - However, there was a change in the plans where the road is. to come out to the existing public road,, therefore, a new estimate has to be made. Mr. Frank Zaleski appeared before the Board next- to discuss his proposed subdivision. In. May, 1"963,, . Mr. Zaleski was given preliminary approval of Section I of this -subdivision. He has some lots on the public highways and there was question in his mind of maintaining these lots,, and not-makingthem part-.of the subdivision. , The Chairman advised that it would be .be.tter' to include them in the subdivision, if they were to be sold separately he could only see two lots a year. At 'that- rater it would take ten years to sell the lots on the public highway. Mr. Zaleski stated that he was just looking for information from the Board at the present time. Mr.. Young brought .out the fact that he should get the approval of the water from the County Health' Department. The Chairman asked how the Board would feel about having 100 foot lots near the water and the rest of the lots 20,000 square feet. Mr. Young felt- that all the lots should be 20,,000 square feet. The Chairman advised Mr. Zaleski that .a proformance bond would be necessary for the roads.. He also stated that there will have to be five or six houses on the road before the Town would accept them. If 'he doesn't want- to put up a proformance bond, then the raods would have'-to be completed before the subdivision map. is filed. Mr.- Zaleski. asked what the best thing would be to do. The' Chairman. advised.him that if he was doing it, he would do one section at- a time and put up a proformance bond. The�Chairman then explained to Mr.- Zaleski ' exactly-what a proformance bond is, and.how he would go about haveing. an estimate made up. The Chaiiman also advised Mr. - Zaleski that it would be wise to get -approval on this before the first . . of the coming year. I Southold Town PLC•- g ,nin Board -5- Sexy -�_mber 21 1964 On motion by Mr.. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Young*, it was RESOLVED that -preliminary approval be given to Donnaa: 'Drive in ..Mr. Zaleski=s subdivision*, and that= the Board ask Mr. Zaleski to put a 10 .foot crosswalk in each block of lots,, on both the east and .west of Donna Drive. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebes Mr.. Young.. and Mr. Unkelbach. Mr On motion by Grebe,,' seconded by Mr. Youngs it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize Mr. Lawrence Tuthill to do the estimates for a proformance bond on the roads in Mr. Zaleski=s subdivision. Vote of the Board-. , Ayes: Mr.- Wickham*, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr.Unkelbach. On Motion by Mr.. Young.. seconded by Mr. Grebe)rz it- was - RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize Mr. Lawrence Tuthill to do the estimates for proformance bonds for "Eastwood Estates, Section II". Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Young.. Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, and Mr. Unkelbach. - Mr. Wickham abstained from voting due to the fact that he is directly connected with this application. He has rented this land for 'many years. - On motion by Mr.. Young, seconded by Mr. -moisa*, it was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set '7: 30 P:M.-, Thursday, October 15, 1964, at -the Town Offices Main Road, Southold,,, New York, as time and place ofhearing upon the question of approval of' the following plat: and others 1. Plat of property owned by Kathryn Fleet#/ entitled "Eastwood Estates, Section II"s, at-Cutchoguer,, consisting of a parcel of land of 11.5 acres*,. situated Cutchogue, in the Town of Southold...- Suffolk-Countyj New York, and more particularly bounded and described as follows: Southold Town Ply_=_zing Board -6 Ser..�,mber 21, 1964 Beginning at the intersection of the northerly line of Midwood Road with the westerly line of Fleet's Neck- Road, and running thence along siad northerly line of .Midwood Road, two courses, as follows: (1) S. 50003' 20"" W.-662.66 feet; thence (2) S.. 65°40'10" ,W.-319.56 feet to a-&and of-"James;. tjience along said land of:James and along land of,�Appelquest, N03056120-1 W.-163.33 feet; thence along said land of Appelquest,- S. 860 03' 40" W.-150.0 feet .to land of 'Gerhardt; thence along siad land of 'Gerhardt," along land of 'Jones, and along land of:Fleet ' N.- 3°5611201, W.-3 00.00 feet to land of-Todebush; thence along said land of Todebush,' N. 86°03'40" E.-150.0 feet; thence continuing along said land of Todebush and along land bf Kirkup, N.- 3056320" W.-345.00 feet; thence continuing along said land of Kirkup northwesterly on a curve to the left having a radius of 55.0 feet,, a distance of 86..39 feet to the southerly line of North Cross]Road; thence along said southerly line of North- Cross Road, two courses, as follows: (1) N.. 86003'40" E.-49.12 -feet; thence 42) N.. 44°31'00" E.-169.38 feet to land of Dietz; thence along said land of Dietz, along land of Ciesiel,.and along land of Grathwohl," S. 500 16' 30" E.-417.45 feet;. thence along said land of Grathwohl,. N. 39043130" E.-150.00 feet -to the westerly line of Fleet's Neck-Road; thence along said wester-ly line of Fleet's Neck"Road, S. .50016'30" E.-427.34 feet- to the point of beginning. Containing .11.59, acres. - Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. . Grebe, and Mr. Unkelbach. Mr. Wickham again abstained from voting. The Planning Board received from the Town Board .a petition (amended) for a change of zone "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District by Paul S.,- and Lois T. Wilson with the instructions to prepare an official report defining the conditions described in the petition and determine the area so, effected with the recommendation of the Planning Board. The request is made for this change of: zone for a marina. This property is bounded and described as follows: Beginning at the intersection of the southerly Line of Manhanset Avenue with the westerly line of Beach Road;. from said point-. of beginning running along said westerly line of Southold Town Plk,. ing Board -7- Sej,,,.:_anber 21, 1964 Beach Road, two courses as follows: (1) S. 4*.06=00" E. 481.84 feet; thence .(2) southeasterly on a curve to the left having a .radius of .436.0 feet a distance of 100. 98 feet- to the land of the' Town of Southold; thence -along said land of the Town of SoutholdS. 33010100" W. 202.53 feet to ordinary high water mark of 'Stering' Basin; thence southwesterly 80 feet, more or less to the northeasterly boundary of the Incorporated Village of 'Greenport where it intersects the ordinary high water mark of -Sterling Basin; thence along said boundary N. 54°33 =50" W. 290 feet more or less, to said high water mark; thence northwesterly along said highwater mark 300 feet more or less to land of Saint.Agnes Cemetery N.. 13°37130"' E. 652.20 feet to said southerly line' of Manhanset-Avenue thence along said southerly Line S. 67'489 5 0" E. 4.79.60 feet to the point- of beginning. Containing 9 acres, more or less. On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe,, it< was RESOLVED that the Planning Board favorably recommends to the Town -Board the change of zone from."A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District -on the property of'Paul S.. and .Lois T. Wilson as described above, This -property is going to be used for a marina, if the change of zone is granted. The Planning Board feels that -there is a growing need for this type of business in tie Town of Southold. This land is low and the Board feels that this is an ideal use for this land, in view of 'the fact, it is separated from .residential area by streets, a cemetery, and property of the Town of Southold. The Board feels that this will be an excellent addition to the economy of the Town. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Young, Mr. Grebe, and Mr. Unkelbach. On motion by-Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that the following 'Annual .Estimate be submitted to the Southold Town Board for the fiscal year beginning January 1, 1965: i Southold.Town P��.ning Board -8- SErczmber 21, 1964 - EXPENDITURES: . Stationery, postage, . printing Advertising Legal notices,, ect. $ 350.00 Telephone (Chairman). and Office 200,00 Association of Towns Mtg. - New York 350,00 Office'Equipment 150.09 Transportation (Fishers Island Member) 800. 00 Car'Expenses @ $..10 100,00 Member'Remuneration - Chairman $1050.00 Fishers island Member 1050. 00 Others 950..00 4950.00 TOTAL- EXPENDITURES $6900.00 REVENUES: (Estimated) Income from'Subdivision Applications $ 350.00 Dated: September 21, 1964 Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham,. Mr. Moisa, Mr. Young,. Mr. Grebe, Mr. Unkelbach. . It-was further 'RESOLVED that the Chairman be authorized .to sign the proposed budget. On motion by-MR. Unkelbach, seconded by-Mr. Grebe, ..it was RESOLVED that .a letter be sent to the Town Board.justifing their requested increase in salary,. and also requesting the salary of the engineer' to be increased in view of the fact that the Board has been. asking a great- deal more .work from him. The Board Board alsorequests that the fee for subdivision applications be increase, Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham,, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, Mr. Unkelbach. On motion by Mr.. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that the fee for applications for subdivision be increase, in view of the fact that estimates have to be made for proformance bonds. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr.- Wickham,, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, Mr. Unkelbach. Southold Town PQalning Board -9- SLr-.:amber 21, 1964 On motion by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Young, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Planning Board dated August 17, 19641 be approved as submitted. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr.. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, 'and .Mr. Unkelbach. ' The Planning Board received from the Suffolk-County Department of Health an amendment to, Section .2, - Article VI, of the' Suffolk County 'Sanitary Code This new amendment which was enacted' September 16,' 1964, is effective immediately. The Planning Board briefly discussed this new regulation. The Subdivsion map of.'Joseph P. Hoey was next brought before the Board. Mr. Van Tuyl presented a new map with some changes. On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was RESOLVED that in regard to the map submitted for the subdivision of Joseph P. Hoey the Planning Board will not go along with a U-shapes. highway, without access to the water. Homy Lane is to continue down to water with a 100 foot turn-aroundr or else the original plan will have to be used. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham ,` Mr.. Moisa, Mr, Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach. The Planning Board viewed the maps submitted by the'County for the further extension of Country Route 27. Mr. Van Tuyl presented the subdivsion map of "Blue Horizons", located in Peconic, New York. The Board viewed this .and briefly discussed the layout of the property. . on motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. , Grebe, it was RESOLVED that preliminary approval be given.b the subdivision "Blue Horizons", situated in Peconic, in the Town of' Southold, - Suffolk-County, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach. Southold Town P-_�.xning Board -10- �rtember 21, 1964 The next meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board will be held '7:30 P-M ', Thursday, October 15, 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. . Meeting adjourned 9:50 P®M.- Respectfully submitted,, Barbara- L.- Carroza, Secretary John Wickham, Chairman