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Southold Town Planning Board
S0UTH0LD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William Unkelbach
M I N U T-E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
February 11, 1963
A regular meeting. of the Southold Town' Planning BDard was
held 7:30 P.M. (E.S.T. ) , Monday, February 11, 1963 at the Town
Office, Main R7ad, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs.- Archibald Young, Acting Chairman,
Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe and William Unkelbach.
Absent: Mr. John-Wickham.
Also present: Messrs. Otto W. Van Tuy1, Consultant, and
Howard Terryt Building Inspector.
Mr. Walter: Kapp, presented to the Planning Board a revised
preliminary plan of Paradise Point at Bayview, Southold. This
proposed subdivision will contain 19.70 acres, with 28 lots.
There was a brief discussion relative to the turnaround at the
end of Basin Road where it. meets the proposed canal. The Board
stated that they would require this 100 ft. turnaround to be 100
ft. in depth as well as width.
On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by; Mr. G:ebe, it was.
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RESOLVED that the Planning Board grant Paradise Point- Corp.
tentative approval of their proposed subdivision to be known as
Paradise Point at Bayview, Southold. This tentative approval is
subject to the approval of the Board of Health and subject to the
turnaround at the end of Basin Road being widened to 100 ft. by
100 ft.
A letter was to be forwarded to Mr. Kapp, on behalf of
Paradise Point Corp. advising that he may now instruct the
engineer or survey or to proceed with computing the map, preparing
the finished print, submit cloth prints to the Health Department
for approval, and proceed with other matters necessary prior to
submitting them to the Planning Board for final consideration.
Theseprints must be submitted at least 15 days prior to a regular
meeting of the Planning Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Hnkelbach.
On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board set 7: 30 P.M. (E.S.T. ) ,
Tuesday, March 19, 1963, Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New
York, as time and place for hearing upon the question of approval
of the following plat:
Plat of property owned by Paradise Point Corp. , entitled
"Paradise Point at Bayview", consisting of a parcel of land of
19.70 acres, situated at Southold, Town of Southold, Suffolk
County, New York, and bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at a monument at the southwesterly corner of
land of Paradise Point Corporation and on the easterly line of
land of. Shelter Island Oyster Company and at the northerly end
of the westerly line of Paradise Point Road; running thence along
said land of Shelter Island Oyster' Company two courses as follows:
(1) NW 19' 15' 20" E. 519. 03 feet; thence , (2) N. 180 29' 20" E.
258.31 feet, thence along other land of Paradise Point Corporation
four courses as follows: (1) S. 66' 133 00" E. 100 feet; thence
(2) S. 18' 29' 20" W. 49. 79 feet; thence . (3) S. 660 13 ' 00" E.
340.29 feet; thence (4) N. 57' 54' 30" E. 103 feet more or less
to a dredged canal; thence easterly across said canal about 75
feet; thence northerly along the easterly shore of said canal
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about 205 feet to Town Harbor; thence easterly along said Town Harbor
about 800 feet to land of Sinning; thence along said land of Sinning,
S. 40 151 20" W. 229. 00 feet to a 50 foot- private road; thence across
said private road, S. 150 381 10" W. 50.76 feet; thence along the
southeasterly line of said private road S. 370 08 ` E. 46.56 feet to
the northwesterly line of a second private road known as "Robinson
Road" i thence along the boundary of said "Robinson Road" eight courses
as follows: (1) S. 520 22 ' 50-1- W. 527. 99 feet; thence (2) on a curve
to the right having a radius of 127. 00 feet a distance of 103.54 feet;
` thence (3) N. 80' 54' 20" W. 120.75 feet; thence (4) On a curve to the
left having a radius of 177 feet a distance of 161. 21 feet; thence
(5) S. 46' 55150" W. 96.80 feet; thence (6) on a curve to the right
having a radius of 150 feet a distance of 175. 08 feet; thence (7) N.
66' 131 00" W. 393. 70 feet; thence (8) On a curve. to the left having
a radius of 175 feet a distance of 274.89 feet to the point of
beginning.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe and Mr.
Unkelbach.
On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that the next meeting of the Southold Town Planning
Board will be. he ld 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, March 19, 1963, Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. Walter Kapp, attorney fcr Ruth F. Wells, appeared before
the Planning Board with regard to the application of Ruth F. Wells
for a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District
to "M" Multiple Residence on property at Bayview, Southold, New York. .
Mr. Kapp presented an amended description to the Board stating that
the original description covered the entire parcel owned by Ruth
Wells. The new description includes only the portion under request
for an "M" zone. The amended description is as follows: -
Beginning at a point which is the northwesterly corner of the
land hereinafter described and which point is South 460 08t 50"
West 738. 18 feet from a point on Main Bayview Road which is the
point of intersection of the easterly side of a private road (which
road leads southerly from said Main Bayview Road over lands now or
formerly of Richard L. Hammel) with the southerly side of Main
Bayview Road; running thence in a generally easterly direction and
in a straight line along other land of Ruth F. Wells to a point on
the westerly boundary of a private lane and land now or formerly of
Mary L. Dayton, which said point is South 380 421 40" West 775. 0 feet
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from the intersection of said westerly boundary of said private.
lane with the southerly side-of Main Bayview Road; thence along
the westerly boundary of said private lane South 380 42 ' 40" West
1124. 63 feet to lands now or formerly of Mayer and Dickerson; thence
along. said lands the following two courses and distances: (1) North
510 17 ' 20" West 87. 50 feet; (2) South 380 421. 4011 West..200 feet to
a point on the ordinary high water line of Little Peconic Bay; thence
along the ordinary high water line of Little Peconic Bay North 65"
16' 30" West 560. 15 feet to the easterly boundary of land now or
formerly of Giraud C. Campbell; thence North 370 58' 50" East along
said land and private road 1053. 68 feet to a point; thence North
340 53_' 10" Rest ,35 feet to Corey Creek; thence along the ordinary
high water mark of Corey Creek :on a tie line bearing North 380 57 '
East 250.55 feet to a point on the easterly line of land now or
formerly of Richard L. Hammel; thence along said land and the east-
erly line of a private road first above mentioned North 46- 08' 50"
East 411.82 feet to the point or place of beginning.
There were approximately 15 persons present at this meeting to
speak in opposition to this proposed change of zone. The Planning
Board also received letters of opposition from the following: Lillie
and Arthur Jacobson, Lot 5, Bay Haven; Helen B. Pospisil, Bay Haven;
A. M. Van Nostrand, Bay Haven; Ann E. and Arch Davis, Bay View Road;
Alfred W. Bitz, President, Laughing Water Property Owners Assoc. , Inc. ;
Millie Vaskelis, Lot *37, Terry- Waters; Elsie and Harry Johnson,
Lot 59, Terry Waters; Robert Bettinardi, Bay Haven.
A copy of a letter from Bill and Ruth Wells to property owners
in Bay Haven explaining Mr.and Mrs. Wells' intentions in this change
of zone matter was alsD presented to the Board by one of the persons
in opposition.
Hazel Mack spoke, stating that she is an attorney and represents
a group of property owners in the Bay Haven development. Mrs. Mack
is also a property owner on Bayview Road. She first asked for an
adjournment so that she might gather more information on this matter
since she was first advised of the proposed change only three days
prior. Mr. Young explained to Mrs. Mack that the Planning Board
would be willing to listen to the objectors as everyone is welcome
at the Planning Board meetings, however, this matter was postponed
from the last- Planning Board meeting in January and the Board would
probably make their recommendation to the Town Board at this time.
The Town Board would then set a date for a public hearing at which
time' all persons would be given an opportunity to be heard.
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The general feeling of those in opposition was that the
change to "M" would permit Ruth Wells to do anything specified
in the "M" Multiple Residence Zone, including hotels, motels,
boarding and tourist houses and tourist cottages. Mr. Kapp
explained that Mrs. Wells was sincere in her proposal to erect
garden type apartments.
After eveyone had expressed themselves the Planning Board
closed that portion of the meeting for further deliberation.
On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board does not recommend to the
Town Board the change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
District to "M" Multiple <Residence 'District on the property of Ruth
F. Wells as described heretofore.
The Planning Board unanimously feels this change of zone would
be spot zoning and would devaluate the existing single family
residences in the area in view of the fact the "M" Multiple Residence
Zone as written in the Building Zone Ordinance leaves too much
latitude to the (w ner of "M" zone property.
It is further pointed out that the Planning Board does not
feel this "M° Multiple Residence District would lend itself to the
development of the area in which it is requested.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. Lefferts P. Edson and Mr. Henry J. Smith appeared before
the Planning Board to present a proposed subdivision map of
property being developed by Mr. Smith on the north side of the
North Road, Peconic. This proposed subdivision contains 21. 162
acres with a total of 35 lots. The road through the center of
this proposed subdivision will connect with "Miami Avenue" at
the northeast corner of the property. Mr. Smith advised the
Planning Board that he intends dedicating the roads to the Town.
On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
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RESOLVED that the Planning Board grant Henry J. Smith
preliminary approval of his proposed subdivision at North Road,
Peconic, New York. Map by Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son dated January
24, 1963.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,,
and Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. Lefferts P. Edson and Mr. Raymond Terry and Mr® Ellis
Terry appeared before the Planning Board to present a map of
proposed highway to be known as Jockey Creek Drive, located on
the east side Main Road, Southold in the Open Development Area
established by Susan H. and Raymond W. Terry. The Board was in
favor of the layout of the proposed road with the proposed easement
to Jockey-Creek. This easement will be for; the use of the Town
for drainage and access purposes. It is 50 ft. wide with a 106 ft.
turnaround at the creek. If this road is extended in the future
across the property of Leicht it will end at Oaklawn Avenue opposite
Wells Avenue. There is now proposed a 100 ft. turnaround where it
ends at the Leicht property.
. On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board approves the laying out of
Jockey Creek Drive with an easement to the creek as proposed by
Raymond and Ellis Terry. This easement will be turned over to the
Town for drainage and access purposes. The turnaround at the end
of Jockey Creek Drive where it abutts the Leicht property will be
turned back to the owners of the road if this road is ever extended
to Oaklawn Avenue.
Map by, Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son dated November .30, 1963. An
amended map will be supplied to the Planning Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebes
and Mr. Unkelbach.
On motion of Mr. Unkelbach, . seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the meeting of January 15, 1963
be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Unkelbach.
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The Board informally discussed a proposed change of zone
from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M" Multiple
Residence District to be presented by Mr. A. John Gadarof Fishers
Island, to the Planning Board in the near future.
Meeting adjourned at 10: 30 P.M.
Respectfully. submitted,
Judith T. Bokenr Secretary
Archibald N. Young, Acting Chairman