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Southold. Town Planning Board
S0UTH0LD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William Unkelbach
M I N U T E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN' PLANNING BOARD
October 1, 1963
A xegular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board
was held 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, October 1, 1963 at the Town
Office, Main Road,. Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. John' Wickham, Chairman,
Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe, Archibald Young, and William
Unkelbach.
Also present: Messrs. Otto W. Van Tuyl, Consultant, and
Howard M. Terry, Building Inspector.
Mr. Rene Gendron appeared before the' Planning Board to
request tentative approval of his subdivision .plat prior to
submitting his final cloth prints so that a date may be set
for a public hearing.
This proposed subdivision is. located on the west side of
Bayview Road, . Southold, New York, contains ten acres and is
bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a monument set
in the easterly side of South Harbor Road, said monument being
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distant 1262.22 feet- northerly as measured along the easterly
side of South Harbor Road from the corner formed by the inter-
section of the easterly side of South Harbor Road with the
northerly side of Bay Water Avenue, running from the point of
beginning along land of G. Nawrocki Estate North 85 degrees 13
minutes East 289. 68 feet to a monument; Thence running North
3 degrees 23 minutes 40 seconds West along land of said estate
and land of Nor thfork Water Company 375. 59 feet to a monument
and land of J. H. Lehr; thence running along last mentioned land
North 85 degrees 35 minutes 40 seconds East 1164.89 feet to a
monument set in the westerly side of Bayview Road; thence run-
ning along the westerly side of Bayview Road South 26 degrees 22
minutes West 479. 64 feet to a monument and land of B. W. Stepnoski;
thence running along last mentioned land South 85 degrees 09
minutes 50 seconds 'West 1213. 07 feet to a point on the easterly
side of South Harbor Road; thence running North 8 degrees 00
minutes West along the easterly side of South Harbor Road 43. 90
feet to the point or place of beginning. Map by Alden W. Young
dated June 23, 1962 and July 27, 1962.
The parcel will contain 18 building lots with a 50 ft. road
through the center ending in a turn-around before it continues
west to South-Harbor Road as a private road 42 ft. to 46 ft. wide.
This parcel adjoins the Village of Greenport water pumping
station on South Harbor Road and Mr. Gendron is making arrange-
ments to have public water in his subdivision.
On motion of Mr. Young, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that Rene Gendron be granted tentative approval
of his proposed subdivision to be known as "South Harbor Homes"
at Bayview Road, Southold, New York, map by Alden W. Young
dated June 23, 1962 and July 27, 1962.
Mr. Gendron was advised that he may now instruct his
engineer or surveyor to proceed with computing the map, preparing
the finished prints, submit cloth prints to the Health Depart-
ment for approval, and proceed with other matters necessary prior
to submitting them to the Planning Board for final consideration.
These prints must be submitted at least 15 days prior to a
regular meeting of the Planning Board.
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Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the
original petition of Irving J, Ellis F. and Russell E. Billard
for a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
District to "B" Business District withinstructions to prepare
an official report defining the conditions described in the
petition and determine the area so effected with the recommendation
of the Planning Board.
This property is located in Cutchogue and more particularly
bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a point on the
northerly line of Main Road at the southwest corner of land now
or formerly of Austin and running; thence S. ,490 38' 50" West
554. 04 feet along the northerly line of Main Road to a point,
said point being at the center line of a right of way at the
southwest corner of the lands herein described; thence N. 430
17 ' 50" West 635. 08 feet along the center line of the said right
of way to land now or formerly of R. Sterling Estate; thence
along said land of R. Sterling Estate N. 47' 061 20" East 551. 90
feet to land now or formerly of' Doroski; thence along said land
of Doroski S. 430571 18" East 493. 95 feet to a monument at the
northwest corner of land now or formerly of Austin; thence from
said monument along said land of Austin S. 41' 501 40" East
165.82 feet to the point or place of beginning. Map by Otto W.
Van Tuyl & Son dated September 16, 1963.
The Chairman disqualified himself from discussing or
voting on this application for a change of zone.
The Board discussed the property which is bounded on the
west..,by a "B" Business District and to the east 100 ft. away by
another "B" Business District. The business district to the
west is for a considerable depth, being the property of Sterling
and to the east the depth of the district is 350 feet on the
Doroski property. The applicant wishes his property zoned to
a depth of 350 ft.
On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend to the Town
Board the change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
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District to "B" Business District for a depth of 350 feet on
the property of Irving J. Billard, Ellis F. Billard and Russell
E. Billard at the north side Main Road, Cutchogue, New York.
The Board feels that this is a natural extension of the
business district as the area has been used for business purposes
for many years.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young,
and Mr. Unkelbach. The Chairman not voting as he disqualified
himself.
It was further' RESOLVED on motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded
by Mr. Moisa that the Planning Board further recommend to the
Town Board that the property of Austin immediately to the east
of the Billard property be included in this business district.
Since the Austin parcel is only 109 ft. wide it is the only
parcel which separates the Billard property and the present
business property of Doroski to the east.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young,
and Mr. Unkelbach. The Chairman not voting as he disqualified
himself.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the
orighal petition of Race Point- Corporation for a change of
zone -from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B"
Business District, with instructions to prepare an official
report defining the conditions described in the petition and
determine the area so affected with recommendation of the Planning
Board.
This property is the former Fort -Wright area on Fishers
Island, New York and is more particularly bounded and described
as follows: Parcel indicated as No. 2 on map of Plan of Fort
H. G. Wright Reservation by Chandler & Palmer, Revised February
21, 1957: Beginning at a point on the Northwesterly line of
Whistler Avenue, said point being located 210.48 feet South
of a point which is 5518.48 feet West of the said "PROS"
monument and thence running North 250 10' West 159. 9 feet;
thence South 530 151 -West 89.31 feet; thence South 670 17 `
West 157.85 feet; thence North 430 06' West 377.41 feet; these
last four lines abutting Northeasterly and Northwesterly on
land of the said Ferry District; thence South 480 08' West
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108.85 feet abutting Northwesterly on the land designated as
"U. S.C.G. Quarters Site";,' thence South 410 52 ' East 456. 33 feet,
abutting Southwesterly on said Ferry District land; thence along
said Whistler Avenue line North 670 13 ' East 322. 1 feet to the
point of beginning, the bearings in the above described parcel
are referred to true meridian.
Parcel indicated as No. 3 on map of Planof Fort H. G.
Wright-Reservation by Chandler & Palmer, Revised February 21,
1957: Beginning at a point on the Northwesterly line of Whistler
Avenue, said point being 346. 92 feet Southof a point which is
5843.34 feet West of the said "PROS" monument and thence running
North 410 52' West 618. 6 feet to land designated as the "U S.
Coast Guard .Site for' Fishers Island Life Boat Station", abutting
Northeasterly on said Ferry District land, this last bearing is
referred to the true meridian; thence South 550 30" West 205. 70
feet to a spike; abutting Ncr thwesterly on said Life Boat Station
Site; thence North 510 00' West 119. 95 feet to a rod, abutting
Northeasterly on said Life Boat Station Site and a Site of the
Department of the Navy; thence South 500 33 ' West 182. 75 feet;
thence North 490 51" West 25. 0 feet; thence North 500 33 ' East
40. 0 feet; thence North 490 51' West 200 feet to a rod; thence
North 410 09' East 317. 2 feet to a rod at the shore of Fishers
Island Sound, these last five lines abutting Northwesterly,
Northeasterly and Southeasterly on the said Navy Site, these
last seven bearings are referred to the magnetic meridian;
thence following the meanders of said shore line in a South-
westerly direction about 1800 feet to land of the said Ferry
District; thence North 670 13 ' East 785. 60 feet; thence South
220 47 ' East 125 feet' thence North 670 33 ' East 329. 2 feet;
thence North 220 47 ' West 125 feet; thence North 670 13 ' East 768.55
feet to the point of beginning, these last five lines abutting
Southeasterly, Southwesterly, Southeasterly, Northeasterly and
Southeasterly on land of said Ferry District, these last five
bearings are referred to the true meridian.
The Board discussed the proposed change and are in favor
of it. In fact, in January 1961 the Planning Board recommended
to the Town Board that the Town Board on its own motion change
this property from "A" Residential to "B" Business.
On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
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RESOLVED that the Planning Board favorably recommend to
the Town Board that the property of Race Point- Corporation,
Fishers Island, New York , situated in the former Fort Wright
area, as described heretofore, be changed from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "B" Business District.
The members of the Planning Board have inspected this
property. It is practically all occupied by warehouses, shops
and barracks and business type installations, some presently
in use by the Coast Guard and U. S. Navy. The property contains
practically no sites suitable for residential buildings and we
feel that if it were rezoned "B" Business some use would be made
of many of the existing buildings.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Chairman reported that he met with Mr. Whitlock of
Malcolm Pirinie and they agreed to have an estimate ready by
the 14th of October. They also agreed upon a program for the
study of water resource and it had four points. 1. To study
the data in bulletin GW-45; 2. to make laboratory analysis of
the percentage of precipitation which is added to the ground water;
3. To project the possible use of the ground water reserve in
terms of residential and agricultural municipalities and industry;
and 4. To arrive at a factor of safety to protect the Town against
salt invasion.
The Chairman also reported that he had met with six
professors from Cornell University on the 20th of September
and was very much encouraged, not only by what they said
but also because after he talked with the Director of Research
for Cornell he assured Mr. Wickham that they were very much
interested in certain phases of work in regard to the Master
Plan. Three departments are interested; the Director of Research
feels that this is a research problem of agriculture that really
needs study.
On October 14th three or four p€:ople from .Cornell are
planning to meet with the Planning Board.
There was a discussion relative to combining the 701 Plan
with the work of Raymond & May and Cornell.
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On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it
was
, RESOLVED that the minutes of September 17, 1963 be approved
as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The next meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board will
be held 7: 30 P.M. , Monday, October 14, 1963 at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York.
The Board next took up the Suffolk County Survey Series '
No. 5, Surface Waters of Eastern Suffolk County, and discussed
each creek and pond in Southold Town. Mr. Unkelbach was
delegated to meet with Mr. Herbert Davids of the Suffolk County
'Department of Health on Wednesday, October 2, 1963 and ask
him to make a thorough check of the creeks and drainage areas
in Southold Town that were indicated in the Report, including
all of the salted ponds and areas on Fishers Island.
Meeting adjourned at 10: 00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
\� Judith .T.: Bol�eri:,. .Secretary
John Wickham, Chairman