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Southold Town Planning Board
S0UTH0LD, L. I., N. Y.
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PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William Unkelbach
M I N U T E 'S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
January 15, 1963
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board
was held 7: 30' P.M. , Tuesday, January 15, 1963 at the Town
Office,. Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs.- Archibald Young, Acting
Chairman, Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe, and William .Unkelbach.
Absent: Mr. John:Wickham,- Chairman
Also present: Mr. Otto-W. Van Tuyl, Consultant, and Mr.
Howard Terry, Building Inspector.
Mr. Joseph Giordano and Mr.- Walter Kapp appeared before
the Planning Board to present a preliminary map of property at
Bayview,. Southold, now owned by 10 individuals. Mr. Giordano
advised that these 10 individuals are going to. reconvey their
lots back to the former- owner- Mr. Julius Zebroski and Mr.. Zebroski
will make an application. for a subdivision on the basis of the
preliminary map submitted. The revised map contains 9 lots,
and after the map is approved and filed Mr. Zebroski .will deed
the lots back to 9 of the present owners.
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On motion of Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that Julius Zebroski be granted preliminary approval
of his proposed subdivision map dated January 10, 1963 by-Otto
W. Van Tuyl.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Unkelbach.
PUBLIC HEARING: On the question of approval of the following
plat: 1. Plat of property owned by Christ Stratakis, Steve
Moraitis and Emanuel Moraitis, entitled Stratmors Estates,
consisting of a parcel of land of approximately 5. 0 acres,
situated at East Marion, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County,
New York, and bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at a point on the westerly line of Rocky Point
Road about 4860 feet northerly along said westerly line from the
Main Road, said point of beginning being the northeasterly corner
of land of Megdanis and the southeasterly corner of the premises
hereinbelow described; from said point of beginning running along
said land of Megdanis, 5 courses, as follows: (1) S.80'49130"W.
150.10 feet; thence (2) N. 7'05120"W. 63.64 feet to a monument;
thence (3) S. 77030140"W. 226.27 feet to a monument; thence (4)
N. 1102313011W. 250.47 feet; thence (5) N. 10O14=20"W. 193.38 feet
to land of Richardson; thence along said land of Richardson, 2
courses, as follows: (1) N. 79-01120"E. 186.47 feet; thence (2)
N. 13029140"W. 188. 19 feet to land of Brown; thence along said
land of Brown, 2 courses, as follows: (1) N.45000-20"E. 14. 96
feet; thence (2) N. 79'50120"E. 188. 68 feet to said westerly line
of Rocky -Point Road; thence along said westerly line of Rocky
Point Road, 2 courses, as follows: (1) S. 13'45110"E. 339.38 feet;
thence (2) S.7005120"E. 361. 53 feet to the point of beginning.
Acting Chairman Mr. Young opened the hear.in g by reading
legal notice of hearing, and affidavit attesting to its publication
in the official newspaper.
ACTING CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone who wishes to speak in
opposition to this proposed subdivision?
(Therewas no response. )
ACTING CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone who wishes to speak . in
favor of this proposed subdivision ?
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MR. CHRIST STRATAKIS: I am one of the owners. We have
requested your Board with the assistance of Mr. Van Tuyl to
permit this subdivision because we the owners would like to
take some of this property for our own person use. We have
been out here several years and we like the area and we would
like to build houses and spend some time here. In addition we
request the Board to permit the subdivision of the balance of
the property since we do have some friends who are respectable
citizens who are interested in buying some of this property.
We have sold five lots to relatives or good friends. If this
subdivision is approved we will not discredit the community
and we will be careful of the persons we are selling the property
to. . The fact we are keeping some of the property for our own
use is one of the safeguards.
ACTING' CHAIRMAN: Do yuu have approval of the water?
MR. VAN TUYL: The water test had been made but the analysis
was made for one thing and not another, but that has been cleared
up and the Health Department stamp is on the final map.
ACTING CHAIRMAN: This Stratmors Road will dead-end up
against the Rosenberg line?
MR. STRATAKIS: Yes. It has a 50 ft. width, the same as
Rocky Point- Road. About a year ago I asked Mr. Rosenberg' s
attorney, Mr. Corwin, if Mr. Rosenberg might want to extend the
road and he did not at the time, I have heard nothing further.
ACTING CHAIRMAN: Therefore, the road will be private until
such time as Mr. Rosenberg develops his property and it can be
carried through.
Is there anything further?
(There was no response. )
.ACTING CHAIRMAN: Since there is nothing further I will
declare the hearing closed.
On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
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RESOLVED: WHEREAS Christ- Stratakis, Steve Moraitis and
Emanuel Moraitis have petitioned the Southold Town Planning Board
for. final approval of their plat known as "Stratmors Estates" at
- East Marion, . New York, and
WHEREAS the Superintendent of Highways of the Town of Southold
has inspected the map and approves the highway layout of roads to
be constructed,.. and his report is hereby approved by the Planning
Board, and
WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to due
notice thereof, held a public hearing on the matter of approval
of the plat at which time all interested persons were given an
opportunity to be heard, and
WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board waives the provisions
in the Rules and Regulations for the Subdivision of Land requiring
park and playground area or cash equivalent;
WHEREAS the applicants to not intend to dedicate the highway
to the Town of Southold at this time, the highway in this subdivision
must meet the specifications of the Highway Superintendent before
being approved for dedication by,the Planning Board;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the subdivision to be known
as "Stratmors Estates" at East Marion, New York, consisting of
5. 0 acres and owned by Christ Stratakis, . Steve Moraitis and
Emanuel Moraitis be approved.
This plat is bounded and described as follows: Beginning
at- a point on the westerly line of Rocky Point Road about 4860
feet northerly alrn g said westerly line from the Main Road, , said
point of beginning being the northeasterly corner of land of
Megdanis and the southeasterly corner of the premises hereinbelow
described; from said point of beginning running along said land
of Megdanis, 5 courses, as follows: (1) S.80'49130"W. 150. 10
feet; thence (2) N. 7'05120"W. 63.64 feet to a monument; thence
(3) 5.7703014011W. 226. 27 feet to a monument; thence (4) N. 11'23=
3011W. 250.47 feet; thence (5) N.10'14120"W. 193.38 feet to land
of Richardson; thence along said land of Richardson, 2 courses,
as follows: (1) N. 79'01120"E. 186.47 feet; thence (2) N. 13"293
40"W. 188. 19 feet to land of Brown; thence along said land of
Brown, 2 courses, as follows: (1) N.45'00120"E. 14. 96 feet;
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thence (2) N:79c�50=20"E. 188. 68 feet, to said westerly line ,of
'Rocky -Point- Road; thence along said westerly line of Rocky
-Point Road, . 2 courses, as follows:. . . (1) S.13°45"10"E. 339.38
feet; thence (2) S.7.00512011E. 361.53 feet to the point -of
beginning.
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Vote of 'the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Young,' Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Grebe, and Mr., Unkelbach.
' PUBLIC HEARING: On the' matter of approval of the following
plat: 2. Plat of property owned by Nathaniel O.- Abelson,
entitled Arrowhead Cove, consisting of a parcel of land of
approximately 31.1 acresi situated at Indian Neck, Peconic, in
the, Town of Southold, Suffolk. County, New York, and bounded.and '
described as follows:
Beginning at a point bn the southerly side of .Indian Neck
Road where the same is intersected by 'the easterly side of. land ;
now or formerly of Anton Kull and formerly of. Flora Appelby;, and
running thence North 78 degrees -11 minutes 30 seconds East- along
the southerly. side of Indian Neck• Road 263.88 feet; thence South
5 degrees 50 minutes 10 seconds 'East- 1856. 65 feet; thence North ,
85 `degrees 36 minutes 40 seconds East 132. 39 feet; thence South
30 degrees 11 minutes 10 seconds East 493.20 feet to the mean high
water line of Little Peconic 'Bay; thence along the mean high water
line of�Little Peconic Bay on a tie line course of Sotth 20 degrees
35 minutes - 30 seconds 'West. 681.87 feet; thence continuing in a
southerly direction along the'mean high water line ofLittle
Peconic Bay a distance - of approximately 155 feet; thence North
. 70 degrees 39 minutes 20 'Seconds- West a distance of approx-
imately 415, feet. to a monument; thence North 70, degrees , 39
minutes 20 seconds.-West 255.•00 feet to- land now or •formerly of
- ,Anton Kull and formerly .of Flora Appelby; thence alorig 'said. last
mentioned .land the following courses and distan-ces: , (1) North
1 degree. 15 ,minutes 30 seconds West 587.29 feet; . (2) North 89
degrees 06 minutes 30 seconds '.East' 147.35 .feet; (3) North 1 degree
17 minutes ..40 seconds -West 2181.57 feet to the southerly side of
Indian Neck' Road at. the point or -place of .beginning-.
Acting Chairman Mr. Young opened the hearing byreading
legal :notice of hearing and affidavit attesting to its publication
in the official newspaper.
ACTING CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone who wishes- to speak in
opposition to this proposed subdivision?
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MR. NATHANIEL O. ABELSON: There is an error in the legal
description. It includes Mr. Horton's property. I bought
the Horton property and simultaneously deeded it back to Mr.
Horton.
THE CHAIRMAN: We will show the corrected description in
the minutes and that will be the description used if this sub-
division is approved.
(The correct description should also read: Excluding the
following described-_: .property of Mr. Philip Goldsmith Horton, Jr. :
Beginning at a point located the following courses and distances
from a point on the southerly side of Indian Neck Road .where the
same is intersected by the easterly side of land now or formerly
of Anton Kull and formerly of Flora Appelby: South 1 degree 17
minutes 40 seconds East 2181. 57 feet to a concrete monument; thence
South 89 degrees 06 minutes 30 seconds West 147.35 feet; thence
South 1 degree 15 minutes 30 seconds East 587. 29 feet; thence South
70 degrees 39 minutes 20 seconds East 255. 00 feet to the point or
place of beginning; running -thence from said point of beginning:
North 19 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds East 150 feet to a concrete
monument; thence South 70 degrees 39 minutes 20 seconds East 405
feet to the mean high water line of Little Peconic Bay; thence along
the mean high water line of Little Peconic Bay a distance of 150
feet more or less to lands of Commonors Shares; thence in a north-
westerly direction along land of Commonors Shares to the point
or place of beginning a distance of approximately 405 feet to
the point or place of beginning.
ACTING CHAIRMAN: Is there. anyone who wishes to speak in
opposition?
(There was no response. )
ACTING CHAIRMAN: Do you propose to dedicate the roads?
MR. ABELSON: For the time being the roads will remain private.
It will be built to town specifications however.
ACTING CHAIRMAN: Is there anything further?
(There was no response.. )
ACTING CHAIRMAN: There being nothing further I will declare
the hearing closed.
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On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED: WHEREAS Nathaniel 0.. Abelson has petitioned the
Southold Town Planning Board for final approval of his plat known
as "Arrowhead Cove" at Indian Neck, Peconic, New York, and
WHEREAS the Superintendent of Highways of the Town of Southold
has inspected the map and approves the highway layout of roads to
be constructed, and his report is hereby approved by the Planning
Board, and
WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to due
notice thereof, held a public hearing on the matter of approval
of the plat at which time all interested persons were given an
opportunity to be heard, and
WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board waives the provisions
in the Rules and Regulations for the Subdivision of Land requiring
park and playground area or cash equivalent;
WHEREAS the applicant does not intend to dedicate the highways
to the Town of Southold at this time, the highways in this sub-
division must meet the specifications of the Highway Superintendent
before being approved for dedication by the Planning Board and
the requirement for a performance bond is waived;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the subdivision to be
known as ".Arrowhead Cove" at Indian Neck, Peconic, New York,
consisting of 31. 1 acres and owned by Nathaniel 0. Abelson, be
approved.
This plat is bounded and described as follows: Beginning
at a point on the southerly side of Indian Neck Road where the
same is intersected by the easterly side of land now or formerly
of Anton Kull and formerly of Flora Appelby; and running thence
North 78 degrees 11' minutes 30 seconds East along the southerly
side of Indian Neck Road 263.88 feet; thence South 5 degrees 50
minutes 10 seconds East 1856.65 feet; thence North 85 degrees 36
minutes 40 seconds East 132.39 feet; thence South 30 degrees 11
minutes 10 seconds East 493. 20 feet to the mean high water line
of Little Peconic Bay; thence along the mean high water line of
Little Peconic Bay on a tit line course of South 20 degrees 35
minutes 30 seconds West 681.87 feet; thence continuing in a
southerly direction alcn g the mean higgh water line of Little
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Pecosaic Bay a distance of approximately 155 feet; thence North
70 degrees 39 minutes 20 seconds..West a distance .of approximately,
415 feet to a monument; thence North 70' degrees 39 minutes 20
seconds West 255. 00 feet to land now or formerly of Anton Kull
and formerly of Flora Appelby; thence along, said last mentioned--
land the following 3 courses and distances; (1) North 1 degree
15 minutes 30 seconds West 587.29 feet; (2) North 89 degrees- 06
minutes-. 30 seconds 'East 147.35 feet; (3) North 1 degree 17 minutes
40. seconds West 2181. 57 feet-.to the southerly side of Indian Neck
Road at the point or- place .of beginning..
Excluding from the above description the following described
property of Philip Goldsmith Horton, Jr. :
Beginning at- a point located the following courses and
distances from a point .on the southerly side of Indian Neck Road
where the same, is intersected by the easterly side of land now
or formerly of Anton Kull and formerly of Flora Appelby; South
1 degree 17 minutes 40 'seconds East, 2181.57 feet -to ,a concrete
monument thence� South 89 degrees 06 minutes 30 seconds West
147.35 feet; the'nce- South. l degree 15 minutes 30 sec on ds " East
587. 29 feet; thence ' South 70 degrees 39 minutes 20 seconds East
255. 00 feet :to the point.'or place of beginning; running thence
from said point -of beginning: North 19 degrees 20 minutes 40
seconds 'East 150 feet to a concrete monument; thence South 70 .
degrees 39 minutes .20 seconds �East, 405, feet to the mean high
water line of'Little Peconic Bay; thence along the mean '.ligh„
water line of Little Peconic. .Bay a distance of 150 feet-more or
less to lands of Commonors Shares; thence in a northwesterly
direction along land of*Commonors Shares to the point- or place.
of beginning a distance of approximately 405' feet to the point
or place of beginning.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, , Mr. Grebei
and Mr. .Unkelbach.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the original
petition. oE Ruth F. Wells, Bayview,. Southold, New York, for a
change of zone from :"A" Residential and Agricultural District to
"M" Multiple Residence 'District -with a request that the Planning .
Board paepare, an official report. defining the conditions described
in the petition and .determine 'the area so affected with the
recommendation of the Board.
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The property of Ruth F. Wells is bounded and described
as follows: Beginning at a point on the Main Bayview Road which
is the point of intersection of the easterly side of a private
road (which road leads southerly from said Main Bayview Road
over lands now or formerly of Richard L. HAmmel) with the southerly
side of said Main Bayview Road and which is the northwesterly
corner of the land hereinafter described; running thence along
the southerly side of Main ,Bayview Road the following three
courses and distances: (1) South 4905'30" East 91.47 feet;
(2) South 16059110"East 389. 09 feet; (3) South 52°59130"Eatt
to the westerly boundary of a private lane and land now or
formerly of Mary L. Dayton Estate still extending southerly along
said Main Bayview Road a distance of 115.42 feet; thence along
the westerly boundary of said private lane and land and the
extension southerly of said westerly boundary thereof. South
38042140" West 1899.63 feet to lands now or formerly of Mayer
and Dickerson; thence along said lands the following two courses
and distances: (1) North 51017120" West 87. 50 feet; (2) South
38042140"West 200 feet to a point on the ordinary high water line
of Little Peconic Bay; thence along the ordinary high water line
of Little Peconic Bay North 65016 '30" West 560. 15 feet to the
easterly boundary of land now or formerly of Giraud C. Campbell;
thence North 37058' 50" East along said land and private road
1053.68 feet to a point; thence North 34053 '10" West 35 feet to
Corey-Creek; thence along the ordinary .high water mark of .Corey
Creek on a tie line bearing North 38057 ' East 250. 55 feet to a
point the easterly line of land now or formerly of Richard L.
Hammel;, thence along said land and the easterly line of the
private road first above mentioned North 46008150" East 1150. 00
feet to the point or place of beginning. Map by Otto W. Van
Tuyl & .Son dated June 27, 1957 and revised January 18, 1961.
The applicant requests this change of zone from "A" To
"M" for the purpose of erecting garden type apartments. „
Mr. Walter Kapp, attorney for the applicant, and Mr.
William Wells, appeared before the Board to answer questions, and
to present an artists conception of the proposed garden--type
apartments. Mr. Wells also presente a photograph of an tae-rial
view of the property. They stated that there would be at least
a 50 ft. road serving these proposed apartments and they have
provided a buffer zone. at Main Bayview Road of approximately
738 feet.
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Since only two members of the Board had viewed this property,
it was proposed that the matter be held over to the next meeting
so that the remainder of the Board might visit the property and
become familiar with it.
Mr. Kapp also presented to the Board a preliminary plan for
a proposed subdivision to be. known as Paradise Point at Bayview,
Southold, New York. This proposed subdivision will contain approx-
imately 32 lots. , Lots 33 through 37 are to be omitted from the
proposed plan because they have been sold.
_ On motion. of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that Paradise Point Corporation.- be granted preliminary
approval of their 'proposed. s.ubdivisi:on to ..be. known as Paradise Point
at 'Bayview, . Southold, New Yorke -with the exclusion of lots 33 through
.37. Map by"Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son dated August22,, '19613. . ..
Mr.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Young./Moisa, Mr. Grebe, and
Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. Harold Wilsberg and his attorney Mr. Richard Cron 'appeared
before the Planning. Board :to present ,a .revised preliminary plan of
West Creek Estates at Southold, New ..York. This proposed plan contains
'33.2 acres, with ,52 lots.
After reviewing the layout and finding it satisfactory, on
motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded,by Mr. Grebe,. it was
RESOLVED that Ernest-' and Harold'.Wilsberg .be granted -preliminary
approval of their revieed preliminary plan of`West Creek Estates,
Southold, New. York. Map by-Otto W. Van Tuyl & :Son dated March 26,
1962' and revised November 30, 1962.
Vote ' of the Board: Ayes: Mr. ' Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,.'and
Mr. Unkelbach.
On motion of Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Grebe,_, it was.
RESOLVED that. the ,minutes of December 18, 1962 be approved as
submitted.
Vote of the. Board: Ayes: Mr. Young., Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, .,an d
Mr. Unkelbach.
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Mr. _Howard Terry presented to the Board for an informal
discussion and approval a map: of. property owned by Edwin H. King
at Greenport. Mr. King proposes to subdivide this property and
. there is, proposed a 50 ft. road running from' -old Main South Roads ,
into the property to be subdivided. This property is bounded
south. by Main Road; west by .Chapel Lane and north by Middle or
North Road.
The Board further discussed this layout and proposed road
and on motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that .this proposed layout with. 50 ft.. road be
approved to a .depth of 500 feet only, and subject -to filin g a
subdivision map on the entire area.
Vote of the Board: ,dyes:-- Mr. Young;" Mr. Moisa,. Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Board again discussed the application for a'' change of
zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M"
Multiple Residence'District by Martin Charles Pfeffer, 174 S.
First Street, Lindenhurst, New,York. This matter has been before
the Planning Board on several other occasions but held .over. to
determine the feelings of the neighbors. 'Mr. Young read a letter
he recently received from Cary.:Mulford Oxley. stating that she . is
in opposition 'to this change. of, zone..'. Mrs. , Oxley is an adjoining
property owner.
On motion . of Mr.' 'Grebe,' seconded by Mr.,, Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning_ Board does not recommend favorably
to the Town Board the change' of zone from "A" Residential and
Agricultural District to "M"- Multiple Residence 'District on the ,
property of Martin Charles Pfeffer._ This property is bounded and '.
described as follows:
All that certain plot,,. piece or parcel of land, situate, lying
and being at Greenport, Town 'of Southold, County of Suffolk .and
State of New York, bounded and described as follows:- BEGINNING
at- a point- on' the northerly side of North .Road (Middle Road) where''
it .is intersected by the easterly side of land now or formerly of
� Carey -Sawinson; thence along said last-mentioned land the following
two (2) courses and- distances:- 1. North: 23021140"West 125.87 feet;
2. North 26. 07'00" .West 568 feet- to the high water mark of =Long ,'Island
Sound; thence easterly along said high water mark to a point where it.
is intersected by a tie line from the preceeding course having a
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bearing of North 44000' East and a distance of 160 feet; thence
'South 26007100" East 734. 24 feet to the northerly side of North
Road (Middle Road) ; thence along the northerly side of North Road
(Middle Road) South 58048120" West 157. 13 feet to the point or place
of beginning. Map by Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son dated July 19t 1962.
The Planning Board feels this proposal would be spot zoning
and would not fit in with the general character of the neighborhood.
The property lies approximately 500 feet or more further east than
that nearest "M" Multiple Residence District and therefore would
not conform with the overall area.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Planning Board received a copy of the revised Highway
Specifications for the Town of Southold recently adopted by the
Southold Town Board.
The next ire eting of the Southold Town Planning Board will be
held 7:30 P.M. , Monday, February 11, 1963 at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York.
Meeting adjourned at 10:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Judith T. Boken, . Secretary
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Archibald N. Young, Acting Chairman