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Southold Town Planning Board
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N..Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William Unkelbach
M I N U TEE S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
August 6, 1962
A regular meeting of the• Southold Town Planning Board was
held 7:30 P.M. , - Monday, August 6, 1962, at the Town Office, Main
Road,. Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. Archibald Young, Acting Chairman,
Henry. Mois�L,, Alfred Grebe, William Unkelbach, . and John Wickham,
. Chairman, who arrived .at 8: 00 P.M.
Also present: Messrs. Otto W. Van Tuyl, . Consultant and Howard
Terry, Building Inspector.
Mr. Harold Reese and Mr. Frederick Reese of 410 Jericho Turnpike,
Mineola, New York, . appeared before the- Planning Board to discuss their
proposed subdivision on the 34 acres of land they have purchased from
Sage at .Arshamomaque. There will be 51 lots, each containing over
20, 000 sq. ft. They have made six test holes for drainage and have
received favorable reports on them. The only matters for discussion
were the road ends. The easterly entrance road showed a 50 ft. dead-
end at the water and the Board insisted that this be widened to a
100 ft. by 100 ft. turn around. The road which ended at the proposed
canal on the west had a 50 ft. dead-end and the Board suggested that
Lot No. 1 and Lot No. 18 each be increased at their southwesterly and
northwesterly, respectively, boundaries by approximately 27 ft. by
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25 ft. by splitting the 50 ft. road in half at that point (thereby
eliminating the dead-end at the proposed canal. The Reese's agreed
. to this proposal.
On motion of-Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that Harold and Frederick.Reese be granted preliminary
approval of their preliminary map dated March 21, 1962 with corrections
by the Planning Board on August 6, 1962. Map by Otto W. Van Tuyl &
Son.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, Mr. Moisa, and
Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. Rene Gendron again appeared before the Planning Board to
discuss his proposed subdivision on the west side of 'Bayview Road,
. Southold. At the last meeting the Planning Board made suggestions
as to the road ending at the, westerly end of. the property and Mr.
Gendron agreed to make the suggested changes. Mr. Gendron now
presented a preliminary plan showing a turn-around of 190 ft. and
all lots having at least 100 ft. frontage. This subdivision will
have public water therefore some of the lots will have less than
20, 000 sq. ft: of area.
'Inhere was some discussion relative to the purchase of additional
land to widen . a 40 ft. road which would connect with South Harbor
Road on the west- of this subdivision. This road would have to be
private 'if it is not widened to 50 feet. . Mr. Gendron said he would
endeavor to purchase additional land.
On .motion of Mr. Unkelbach, .seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that Rene Gendron be granted preliminary approval
of his proposed subdivision plan dated June 23, 1962 and July 27,
1962 by Alden W. Young.
This preliminary approval is granted from Bayview Road to the
west boundary of the turn-around.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, . Mr. . Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Board discussed the matter of:Eastwood Estates, proposed
subdivision being developed by the George H. Fleet -Estate at Fleet's
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Neck, Cutchogue. Everything being in order and roads almost
complete,
On motion of Mr. Young, seconded by Mr. Moisa it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board grant tentative approval
of proposed subdivision to be known as Eastwood Estates ate Fleet's
Neck, Cutchogue, New York. Map by Ott6 W. Van Tuyl & Son. .
Vote of the Board: .ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. -Unkelbach.
On motion of Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board set 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday,
September 4, 1962, Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York as
time and place for hearing upon the question of approval of the
following plat:
Plat of property owned by George H. Fleet Estate, entitled
Eastwood Estates, consisting of a parcel of land of approximately
7.87 acres, situated at Cutchogue in the Town of Southold, Suffolk ,
County, New York, and bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at a monument on the northerly line of South Cross
Road 175 feet westerly along said line from the westerly line of
Fleet's Neck Road; running thence along said northerly line of. South
Cross Road S. 57042100"W.-360. 0 feet; thence along land of Vanderbeck
and other lands No. 32018100"W.-928. 20 feet to the southerly line of
Midwood Road; thence alongsaid southerly line of Midwood Road N. 500
8312011E.-363. 24 feet to land of Besemer; thence along said land of
Besemer and other lands S.32018' 00"E. -976.51 feet to the point of
beginning. Containing 7.87 acres.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkd.bach.
The Planning Board again discussed the application of Edwin H.
King for a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
District to "B" Szsiness District on Narrow River Road in Orient.
At the last meeting the Board decided to investigate this property
and make their recommendation at this meeting. Mr. Robert-W. Gillipsie,
Jr. a neighboring property owner and Mr. Percy Douglas appeared before
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the Board to speak relative to the proposed change of zone. Mr.
Gillispie stated that there is a question as to whether'Mr. King
owns all of this land or not. George Hallock agreed to sell Mr.
King the land but did not specify where the boundary was, however
Mr. King started bulldozing and he went on to the George Edwards
Estate property. He has done a complete job there without a change
of zone, and Mr. Gillispie stated that to recommend this favorably
would be- recommending spot zoning and would create a district over
which there would be no restriction as to the type of business which
could be conducted. Mr. Percy- Douglas concurred,fdith Mr. Gillespie.
The' Planning Board members were in agreement with .Mr. Gillispie,
all of them having investigated .this property. They were also in
touch with the Town Trustees and found that Mr. King has violated
their regulations.
After considerable discussion, on motion of Mr. Grebe, secs nded
by Mr. Young, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend to the Town Board
that this change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
District to "B" Business 'District on property of Edwin King at
Orient be denied.
This would be spot zoning and not consistent.with the best
development of : our waterfront.
In the Planning Board's mind the continued operation of this
marina without a permit is a flagrant violation of the Zoning
Ordinance and should be discontinued. Our entire Board has studied
this property and find that there are additional problems involving
the Town Trustees and also adjoining property owners.
This property is bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING
at a point of deflection in the southeasterly line of-Natrow River
Road where said line is intersected by the boundary line between
land of George W. Hallock and land .of Edwards and Gillespie; running
thence along said boundary line S.- 620 07 ' E. - 165 feet, more or
less, to ordinary high water mark of Hallock's Bay; thence along
said ordinary high water mark of Hallock's Bay southwesterly about
350 feet and then southeasterly about 260 feet to a point about 10
feet southeasterly from and old marine railway; thence along other
land of George W. Hallock; two courses, : as follows: (1) S. 352
43' 00" W. - - 80 feet, more or less; thence (2) S. 410 58' 30" W.' -
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221.79 feet to the easterly line of'Narrow River Road; thence along ,
said line of Narrow River' Road, two courses, as follows: (1) N. 390
43' 50" W. - 183.72 feet; thence (2) N. 210 481 40" E. - 465. 10 feet
to the point of beginning. Containing about one and one-half acres.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. William J. Baxter, Jr. appeared before the Planning Board to
request tentative approval of his proposed subdivision to be known as
Village Manor, at Mattituck, New York. Mr. Baxter has received the
-Health Department approval and Mr.. Van Tuyl has the cloth prints prepared.
The roads have not been installed by this time but Mr. Baxter hopes to
have them completed within 90 days after the subdivision is finally
approved and filed and if not he will post a performance bond.
On motion of Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Young, it was.
RESOLVED that- William J. Baxter, Jr. be granted tentative
approval of his proposed subdivision to be known as Village Manor ,
at-Mattituck. Map by Otto W. Van Tuyl &:-Son.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
- On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr.- Moisa, it was
-RESOLVED that the Planning Board set .7:30 P.M. , Tuesday,
. September 4, 1962, Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York as
time and place for hearing upon the question of approval of the
following plat:
Plat of property owned by William J. Baxter, Jr. , entitled
Village Manor, consisting of a parcel of land of 16. 345 ' acres,
situated at Mattituck in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New
York, . and bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a monument on the northerly line of Main Road
at the southeasterly corner of land of- Stewart -Estate; running
thence along said land of Stewart -Estate, two courses, as follows:
(1) N. 1.7 0 31'40"W.-242. 15 feet; thence
(2) S. 70'07150"W.-185. 97 feet; thence
along land of Tandy, two courses, as follows:
(1) N..25'34140"W. -167. 36 feet; thence
(2) S. 72°48130"W. -45. 14 feet; thence
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along land of Mattituck School District N. 17'11140"W.-1099. 64 feet;
thence along land of Long Island Railroad Company, two courses, as
folbws:
(1) on a curve to the right, having a radius of 2840. 18 feet,
a distance of' 390. 97 feet; thence
(2) N.59027100"E. -147.89 feet; thence
along land of Elmer ' D. Ruland, four courses, as follows:
(1) S. 19'17920"E.-454. 03 feet; thence
(2) 5. 16'393401-E.-225. 09 feet; thence
(30 S. 16005130"E. -246.47 feet; thence
(4) S. 17*39130"E.-283. 96 feet; thence
along land of Gillespie S. 17000100"E.-184. 21 feet; thence along land
of Coleman and otherlands S. 70007150"W.-214. 45 feet; thence along land
of Worthington 5. 17031940"E. -233.81 feet to said north line of Main
Road; thence along saidnorth line of Main Road S. 62008130"W.-60. 00 feet
to the point of beginning. Containing 16. 345 acres.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr.. Wickhaip, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
Mr. Wickham stated that he had met with Governor Rockefeller
at the new. university center at Stoney Brook, and also in Riverhead
and he had an opportunity to express his views regarding the Bridge
to Connecticut and the extension of the Expressway, as well as planned
projects. He stated that he felt the matter of a highway to the end
of Long Island and the Bridge to theNEw England States presents many
advantages , but it would encourage industries and agriculture would
decline and they should decide at an early date whether food is more
important than industrial development for EasternLong Island. He
discussed this personally with Governor Rockefd.ler and he was very
appreciative of the points that were brought out. Mr. Wickham also
talked with Speaker of the House Carlino and the Governor's secretary.
The Planning Board received the application for dedication of
the roads in the Oakridge Hills subdivision at Southold, owned by
Southold Builders, Inc. The Planning Board had approved the road
layout when this map was given final approval.
On motion of 'Mr. Young, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board approves the layout of
highways to be known as Jennings Road and Booth Road on property
of Southold Builders, Inc. , and described as follows:
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Parcel One. BEGINNING at a point on the southwesterly side of
Horton Lane distant 753. 50 feet southeasterly from the corner formed
by the intersection of the southwesterly side of Horton Lane with the
southeasterly side of' Sound View Avenue and which point of beginning
is also distant southeasterly 202. 62 feet along the said southwesterly
line of Horton Lane from a point where the same is intersected by the
southeasterly side of land now of Clement W. Booth; from said point of
beginning running the following eight (8) courses and distances:
(1) South 48 degrees, 25 minutes 00 seconds west 765.85 feet to
a monument and land of Jennings;
(2) North 35 degrees, 15 minutes 30 seconds west a distance of
50. 31 feet along said land of Jennings to a monument;
(3) North 48 degrees 25 minutes 00 seconds east a distance of
150 feet along land of Southold Builders, Inc. to a monument;
(4) North 35 degrees 15' minutes 30 seconds west a distance of
157. 14 feet along land of Southold Builders, Inc. to land of Booth;
(5) North 48 degrees 53 minutes 40 seconds east a distance of
50. 26 feet along land of Booth;
(6) South 35 degrees 15 minutes 30 seconds east a distance of
156. 73 feet along land of Southold Builders, Inc. to a monument;
(7) North 48 degrees 25 minutes 00 seconds east a distance of
554. 55 feet along land of Southold Builders, Inc. to a monument on
the southwesterly side of Horton Lane;
(8) South 47 degrees 48 minutes 00 seconds east a distance of
50. 30 feet along said southwesterly side of Horton Lane to a monument
and point of BEGINNING.
Parcel Two. BEGINNING at a point marked by a monument on the
southeasterly side of Sound View Avenue distant southwesterly 480
feet from the intersection of the said southeasterly line of Sound
View Avenue with the southwesterly side of Horton Lane; from said
point of beginning running the .following six (6) courses and distances:
(1) South 47 degrees 48 minutes 00 seconds east 328.90 feet along
land of Clement W. Booth and E. Kramer to a point;
(2) South 35 degrees 15 minutes 30 seconds east a distance of
170.82 feet to land of Southold Builders, Inc. , which point is also the
northwesterly terminus of the northeasterly side of Booth Road as
described in Parcel ONe above;
(3) South 48 degrees 53 minutes 40 seconds west a distance of
50. 26 feet along land of Southold Builders, Inc. to a point, which
point is also the northwesterly terminus of the northwesterly side
of Booth Road as described in Parcel One above;
(4) Nortb 35 degrees 15 minutes 30 seconds west a distance of
170.45 feet along land of Clement W. Booth to a monument;
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(5) North 47, degrees 48 minutes 00 seconds "West a distance of
323. 96 feet along land of Clement W. Booth and A. Garcia to a monument
on the southeasterly side of Sound View Avenue;
(6) Nor th .42 degrees 51 minutes 00 seconds east' a distance of
50. 00 feet along the said .southeasterly side .of Sound View Avenue toa
monument and the place of BEGINNING.
The above two parcels of described land comprise a road 50 feet
wide at all points running from Horton Lane southwesterly to land of
Henry Jennings thence from a point therein northwesterly to the south-
easterly side of Sound View Avenue.
The Plannin g Board approved this road layout for the filed
subdivision map known as "Oakridge Hills. "
Vote of' the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The- Planning Board received the file for the application to
dedicate highways by F. Harold Sayre. The Planning Board previously
reviewed this matter and on December 6, 1961 they did not recommend
their acceptance by the Town Board. The' Planning Board again reviewed
this matter and
On `motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that in the matter of the application of F. Harold Sayre
to layout North Parish Drive 'Extension and Northfield Lane at Bayview,
Southold, New York, th e' Planning Board has reviewed this case in light
of. our letter of :December 6, 1961 . to the Town Board. The rules and
regulations and the State Law allows us no latitude in this matter and
it would seem to us :that the advantages of 'a filed map both . to Mr. Sayre
and to the assessment rolls of the Town of Southold are both obvious and
considerable and in our mind overweighted by the considerations, there-
fore we are unable to recommend the acceptance of North Parish Drive
Extension and Northfield Lane to the Town of Southold until such time
as a subdivision map is filed.
North Parish Drive Extension and Northfield .Lane are described
as follows:
. North Parish Drive Extension. BEGINNING at the intersection of
the northerly line of North Parish Drive as now laid out with the
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easterly line of'Dayton Road and running thence along the several
lands of_ Siracusano, Kwasneski and Gilbert, South 75 degrees 54
minutes 50 seconds East, a distance of 273. 70 feet to a monument;
thence along land of Hundley and then along land of said F. Harold
Sayre, South 71cegrees 24 minutes 50 seconds East, a distance of
540. 0 feet to a monument at the northerly end of the easterly line of
proposed highway to be known as Northfield Lane as hereinafter
described; thence across the northerly end of said Northfield Lane,
. South 58 degrees 02 minutes 30 seconds West, a distance of 64. 76 feet
to a monument at the northerly end of the westerly line of said North-
field Lane; thence along land of said F. Harold Sayre, North 71 degrees
24 minutes 50 seconds West, a distance of 496.88 feet; thence along
land of said F. Harold Sayre and land of Callahan, North 75 degrees
54 minutes 50 seconds West, a distance of 271. 75 feet to a monument
on the easterly line of said Dayton Road; thence along said line of
Dayton Road, North14 degrees 05 minutes 10 seconds East, a distance
of 50. 0 feet to the point of beginning. The above described being a
strip of land 50 feet in width.
Northfield Lane. BEGINNING at a monument set on the easterly
line of Dayton Road, North 28 degrees 02 minutes 10 seconds East, a
distance of 128. 23 feet along said line from a monument at an angle
in the easterly line of North Road to Bayview; running from said
point of beginning along said line of Dayton Road, North 28 degrees
02 minutes 10 seconds East, a distance of 50 feet to a monument; thence
along land of said F. Harold Sayre, four courses, as follows:
(1) South 62 degrees 10 minutes 30 seconds East, a distance of
367.82 feet; thence
(2) On a curve to the left having a radius of 262. 19 feet, a distance
of 162. 56 feet; thence
(3) North 82 degrees 18 minutes 20 seconds East, a distance of
326. 90 feet to a monument; thence
(4) North 7 degrees 30 minutes 00 seconds East a distance of
170. 61 feet to a monument at the easterly end of the southerly line of
proposed North Parish Drive Extension hereinabove described; thence
across the end of said extension, North 58 degrees 02 minutes
30 seconds East, a distance of 64. 76 feet to a monument at the easterly
end of the northerly line of said extension; thence along land of said
F. Harold Sayre, four courses, as follows:
(1) South 7 degrees 30 minutes 00 seconds West, a distance of
250. 0 feet to a monument; thence
(2) South 82 degrees 18 minutes 10 secnnds 'West, a distance of
365. 12 feet; thence
(3) On a cur ve to the right having a radius of '312. 19 feet, a
distance of 193. 55 feet; thence
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(4) North 62 degrees 10 minutes 30 •seconds West, a distance of
368. 00 feet to the point of beginning.
The above described being a strip of land 50 feet in width.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of July 2, 1962 be approved as
submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The next meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board will be
held 7: 30 P.M. , Tuesday, September 4, 1962 at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York.
Meeting adjourned at 11: 00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Judith T. Boken, Secretary
4ohn Wickham, Chairman