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Southold Town Planning Board
0� S0UTH0LD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William Unkelbach
M I N U T :E -S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
June 6, 1961
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board
was held 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, June 6, 1961, at the Town Clerk
:Office, . Main Road, . Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs.. John Wickham, Chairman,
Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe, Archibald Young, and William
Unkelbach.
Also present: Mr. Otto W. Van Tuyl, Consultant and
Harold Price, : Superintendent of Highways.
Mr. Michael=. Zukas, Southold, appeared before the Board for
:an informal discussion. Mr. Zukas has several- acres of land on
Main Bayview Road and facing -West-Creek, Southold, which he wishes
to divide into lots. The lots would run the length of the property
which is 184. 67 ' ft. by approxinately 1000ft. in depth, with a 30 ft.
road. The- Planning Board advised that as per the rules that if
there are four or less lots that would be a matter of access, but
five or more would require the filing of a subdivision. Mr. Zukas
advised he would possibly file for :an Open .Development-Area with
four . lots each containing over 20, 000 sq. ft.
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Mr.. Dan Smith, . Southold, appeared before the Planning Board
to answer questions relative to the petition of George W. Smith
& :Sons, Inc. , for a change of.zone. from "A" Residential and
Agricultural District to "M" Multiple Residence District on
certain .real property situated at .Lake Drive and Kenny Road,
Southold. Legal description was previously setforth in the
Planning Board minutes of May 10, . 1961. Mr. Smith stated that
he has .a prospective purchaser fnr this property who plans to
erect a motel after the change of zone is secured. The Planning
Board .advised that they look with favor on this application but
they wish to see the plans for the proposed motel. Mr... Smith
stated he would contact the prospective purchaser and attempt to
secure plans for the Planning, Board to look at.
Mr. Martin Graemlich and Mr. Henry Graemlich of Greenway
Realty Corp. appeared before the Planning Board to discuss their
proposed subdivision to be known as Green.Acres at Orient. There
was . a lengthy discussion relative to drainage problems and also
a road ending at the water. .. After a thorough discussion the follow-
ing was arrived at in the matter .of Green Acres 'at Orient, map by .
:Otto W. Van Tuyl dated April 11, 1961 and revised April 14, 1961 and
May 29, 1961. The Planning Board insisted and the owners agreed
that there would be a 100 ft. . turn-around at the Sound and it will
be on the easterly edge of land presently in the area marked "for
residents only" on the map. In addition, the owners suggested a
flush leaching area in conjunction with a landscaping project
adjacent to Route 25 on the west side of Greenway East. Finally,
there was agreement between the Planning Board, the owners and
the Superintendent of Highways Price of .a drainage area of at
least 150 ft. on the westerly line, including parts of lots 12
and 13 and the drainage area on the east side to include at least
actual pond area and take in .all of lot 31 and all of the lot
marked "park".. The Planning' Board approved the layout . of .th'e
map subject .only to the receipt -of:a new map showing the above-
mentioned changes.
Mr. Joseph .Snellenberg and Mr. Julius ' Zebroski appeared before
the Planning Board to discuss property owned by Mr. Zebroski at
Bayview Road, Sathold. Mr. Snellenberg- advised that he had made
application to the' Board of :Appeals for approval of access to a
lot owned by Mr. Leslie Gazzola but it was denied because there
had been no hardship shown, nor was the requested access to a
lot owned entirely by. Mr. Gazzola, it was to a larger area than
Mr. Gazzola owned. Mr. Snellenberg stated that at the present
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time there is an agreement between the owners of the lots purchased
from Mr. Zebroski to deed them back to Mr. Zebroski so that he may
redivide them with larger area. After considerable discussion
relative to the possibility of .an Open. Development --Area or whether
Mr. Zebroski should file for a subdivision when the land is all
deeded back to him, the following was the' Planning Board's deter-
mination: - The Board is willing to accept four lots but are not
going out ,on a limb against the Board of Appeals, and the Board
of Appeals is apparently insisting that the lots are in the name
of -Zebroski, or at least in legal agreement and this appears to
the Planning Board to be reasonable. Following this line of think-
ing the Planning Board would like to see a complete realignment
-of lots with an engineers map and property owners agreement to go
with it. It would then seem to the Planning Board that since the
Board of Appeals have granted access on one side of the road
perpendicular to Bayview Road which parenthically we find was
not cut in until long after the effective date of .Zoning, but
nevertheless having been granted access on one side of this road
to one owner the Board of Appeals cannot well refuse another.
. When and if they are straightened out and this would leave not
more than four lots which the Planning Board can and would be
willing to handle.
Mr. Van Tuyl brought up the matter of Orient-By-The-Sea,
Section 2. Mr. Uhl is in the process of selling lot .No. 52 and
the proposed 100 ft. road to the Sound to the adjoining property
owner Millis. He would like to change the road to the Sound to
Lot No. ' 44 which is also 100 ft. wide and adjoining the previous
proposed road.
. On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Youngr it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board is in agreement-with the
proposal by Walter Uhl to change the proposed 100 ft. road to
the Sound to Lot No. 44 on map of Orient-By-The-Sea, Section 2,
dated May 10, . 1961, by Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son.
Vote of the Board: Ayus:- Mr. . Moisa, . Mr. Grebe, Mr.
Young, and Mr. Unkelbach. (Mr. Wickham did not vote as he
had left the meeting prior to a discussion on this matter. )
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A letter covering the Board's action was to be forwarded
to Mr. Uhl.
The next meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board will
be held 7: 30 P.M. , Tuesday, June 20, 1961, at the Town Clerk
Office, Main .Road, Southold, New York.
The minutes of the meeting of May 10, 1961, on motion of
Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Moisa, were approved as read.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- , Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr.
Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
Meeting adjourned at 11: 00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
eudEith T. Boken, Secretary
John Wickham, Chairman
Archibald N. Young,
Vice-Chairman