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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-10/03/1961 An Southold Town Planning Board S O UTH O LD, L. I., N. Y. PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wickham, Chairman Henry Moisa Alfred Grebe Archibald Young William Unkelbach M I N U T'E S SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD O c tober 3, 1961 A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, . October 3, 1961 at the Town Clerk Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs. John-Wickham, Chairman, Henry Moisa, Alfred Grebe, Archibald Young, and William Unkelbach. Also present: Messrs. Otto W. Van Tuyl, . Consultant, Harold Price, Superintendent of Highways and Howard Terry, Building Inspector. .PUBLIC HEARING: On the question of approval of the follow- ing plat: 1. Plat of property owned by Stella M. Smith and Henry J. Smith, entitled Peconic Bay -Oaks, consisting of a parcel. of land of approximately 16.23 acres, .sitiated at- Peconic, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk- County, New York, and bounded and described -as follows: Beginning at a point on the southerly side of Indian Neck Road where the same is intersected by the easterly line of land now or formerly of L. A. Messenger; running thence North 78 degrees 44 minutes 00- seconds` East along the southerly side of Indian Neck Road 355.25 feet =to the northwesterly corner of land Southold Town Planning Board -2- October 3, 1961 now or formerly of E:- W. .Wood, thence along said Wood' s land the following seven courses and distances: (1) South 2.0 degrees 10 minutes 10 seconds East272.89 feet; (2) South 20 degrees 29 minutes 40 seconds East 190. 08 feet; , ,(3) ' South 20 degrees 26 minutes 50 seconds East 110.18feet; .(4): South 20. degrees 23 minutes 40 seconds `East 96.87 feet; (5) South . 20 degrees 05 minutes 00 seconds East -220.79. feet; (6) South 1.9 degrees 49 minutes 50 . seconds East 255.16 feet; (7) South 20 degrees 07. minutes 50 seconds 'East 414.19 feet to the mean high. water. line of Little Peconic Bay and running thence along the mean high water line of Little Peconic Bay, South 44 degrees 30 ,minutes 00 seconds 'West 200 feet; running thence .North . 23 degrees 50 minutes'West 300 feet; thence North 65 degrees 46 minutes West 45.58 feet; running thence southwesterly along an arc of a curve bearing to the right having a radius of 775 feet a distance along said arc of 317.66 feet; run- ning thence South 37 degrees 50 minutes .East .165 feet to the mean high water. line of Little Peconic Bay and running thence along the mean high water line of Little Peconic Bay the following two courses and distances: ' (1) South 44. degrees 30 minutes 00 seconds.'West 40 feet; (2) South 36 degrees 43 minutes 40 seconds West 169.55 feet to land now or formerly of Messenger and running thence along land or formerly of Messenger the following two courses and distances: (1) North 61 degrees 01 minutes 40 seconds West .85 feet; (2) North 12 degrees "33 minutes 50 seconds West 300 feet; running thence North 77 degrees 26 minutes 10 seconds East 148.61 feet; thence northeasterly along an arc -of a' cur ve bearing to the left having a radius of 725 feet a distance along' said arc of 274.45' feet; thence South 77 degrees 26 minutes 10 seconds. West 257.80 feet to land now or formerly -of Messenger and running thence along land now or form- erly of Messenger North 12 degrees 3.3 minutes 50 seconds West. 1297. 75 feet to the southerly side of Indian Neck Road at the point or place of beginning. The Chairman opened the hearing by reading legal notice of hearing with affidavit attesting to its publication in the official newspaper. THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak, in opposition .to this proposed subdivision? (There was no response. ) THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes . to speak for this proposed subdivision? 1 t Southold Town Planning Board -3- October 3, 1961 LEFFERTS P. . EDSON, ESQ. , Southold, New York: I. believe that everything is in order for the approval of:Mr. Henry -Smith- and Mrs. Stella' Smith's subdivision. The final plan is in conformity with the preliminary plan submitted previously. THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present- who wishes ' to speak before this Board either in favor of or in opposition to this subdivision to be known as Peconic Bay Oaks at Peconic in the Town of Southold? (There was no response. ) THE CHAIRMAN: Hearing none. I; will declare the hearing closed. 'On motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Young: WHEREAS ' Stella M. Smith and Henry J. . Smith has petitioned the Southold Town Planning Board for final approval of their plat known as 'Peconic Bay Oaks at- Indian Neck,Peconic", and WHEREAS the Southold Town, Superintendent of Highways has inspected the plat and found the highways in satisfactory con- dition for reasonable access and in compliance with the Highway Specifications of the Town of' Southold, and his report is hereby approved by the Planning Board; and WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to due notice thereof, held a public hearing on the matter of approval of the plat at which time all interested persons were given an, opportunity to be heard, and WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board waives the provision in the Rules and Regulations for the Subdivision of Land requiring park and playground area or cash equivalent; NOW THEREFORE BE' IT RESOLVED that the subdivision to be known as "Peconic Bay ,Oaks at Indian Neck, . Peconic", consisting of 16. 23 acres and owned by Stella M. Smith and Henry J. Smith, be approved on the basis that if dedication of the highways to the Town of Southold is not completed within 90 days from this date performance bond for their completion will be required. j Southold Town Planning Board -4- October 3, 1961 This plat is bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a point on the southerly si& of Indian Neck Road where the same is intersected by the eatterly line of land now or formerly of L. A. Messenger; running thence North 78 degrees 44 minutes 00 seconds East along the southerly side of Indian Neck' Road 355.25. feet to the northwesterly corner of land now or formerly of E. W. Wood, thence along said Wood' s land the following seven courses and distances: (1) South 20 degrees 10 minutes 10 seconds .East 272.89 feet; (2) South 20 degrees 29 minutes 40 seconds East 190. 08 feet; (3) South 20 degrees 26 minutes 50 seconds East 110.18 feet; (4) South 20 degrees 23 minutes 40 seconds East 96.87 feet; (5) South 20 degrees 05 minutes 00 seconds East 220.79 feet; (6)' South 19 degrees 49 minutes 50 seconds 'East 255.16 feet; (7) South ,20 degrees 07 minutes 50 seconds 'East 414.19 feet to the mean high water line of Little Peconic Bay and running thence along the mean high water line of' Little Peconic Bay, . South 44 degrees 30 minutes 00 seconds West 200 feet; running thence North 23 degrees 50 minutes West 300 feet; thence North 65 degrees 46 minutes 'West 45. 58 feet; running thence southwesterly along an arc of a curve bearing to the right having a radius of 775 feet a distance along said arc of 317.66 feet; running thence South 37 degrees 50 minutes' East 165 feet to the mean high waterline of Little Peconic Bay and running thence along the mean high water line of Little Peconic Bay the following two courses and distances: (1) South 44 degrees 30 minutes 00 seconds `West. 40 feet; (2)' South 36 degrees 43 minutes 40 seconds West 169.55 feet to land now or formerly of Messenger and running thence..along land now or formerly of Messenger the following two courses and distances: (1) North 61 degrees 01 minutes 40 seconds West 85 feet; (2) North 12 degrees 33 minutes 50 seconds West 300 feet; running thence North 77 degrees 26 minutes 10 seconds East 148. 61 feet; thence northeasterly along an arc of a curve bearing to the left having a radius of: 725 feet a distance along said arc of 274.45 feet; thence South 77 degrees 26 minutes 10 seconds West 257.80 feet to land now or formerly of Messenger and running thence alrn g land now or formerly of Messenger North 12 degrees 33 minutes 50 seconds. West 1297.75 feet to the southerly side of Indian Neck Road at the point or place of beginning. Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, •Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach. Southold Town Planning Board -5- October 3, 1961 PUBLIC HEARING: On the question of approval of the follow- ing plat: 2. Plat of property oNned by Woodhollow Properties, Inc, entitled Orient-By-The-Sea, Section Two, consisting of a parcel of land of approximately 68. 00 acres, situated at -Orient, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a point on the westerly line of land of the applicant and the easterly line of land of Joseph Moisa at a point about 300 feet northerly along said line from the northerly line of :Main or State Road; running thence along land of Joseph Moisa northerly about 1870 febt to land of Walter Millis; thence along said land of Walter Millis, three courses, as follows: (1) northerly 75feet; thence (2) easterly 100 feet; thence (3) northerly about 250 feet to Long Island Sound; thence easterly along said Long Island Sound about 800 feet to a point about 130 feet westerly from the northwesterly corner of Lot. Number .24 as shown on "Map of Orient By The Sea Section One" filed in Suffolk County Clerk ' s office November 21, 1957 as Map No. 2777; thence southerly along other land of the applicant. about 260 feet to a point on the northerly line of Sound View Road- about 110 feet -westerly from the south- westerly corner of said Lot Numbdr 24; thence southeasterly on a diagonal line across said Sound View Road about 55 feet to the north- westerly corner of Lot Number 25 on said map; thence southerly along the westerly line of said ,Lot Number 25, 146.26 feet; thence in a general easterly direction along the southerly end of lots numbers 25 to 33 inclusive, about 800 feet; thence in a general southerly direction along the westerly end of Lots numbers 34 to 43 inclusive and across two unnamed 50 foot strips and then along the westerly line of Lot Number 4, a 'total of about 1300 feet; thence westerly along the northerly line of Lot Number 2, thence across Plum Island . Lane and then along Lot number 1, about 430 feet; thence southerly along the westerly line of said .Lot Number 1, thence across Park View Lane and then along other land of the applicant, about 400 feet to the northeasterly corner of land of Edwin H. 'King; thence westerly along said land of 'Edwin H. King about 550 feet to the northwesterly corner of said King' s land; thence southwesterly along other land of the applicant about 520 feet; thence westerly along other land of the applicant about 110 feet to the point of beginning. The' Chairman opened the hearing.by readinglegal notice of hearing with affidavit attesting to its publication in the official newspaper. THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone who wishes to be heard in opposition to this proposed subdivision? Southold Town. Planning Board -6- October 3, 1961 (There was no response. ) THE ' CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to be heard in favor of this proposed subdivision? GEORGE McMANN, ESQ. , Greenport; New York: I speak for Orient-By-The-Sea, Section Two. ' We have conformed to the preliminary plan of the Planning Board and Town Board, and we believe that every- thing is in order for final approval. THE CHAIRMAN: At our last meeting we had under discussion some drainage problems, but- I see you have catch basins noted. MR. McMANN: There will be catch basins. XMr. Harold Price, Superintendent of Highways, stated that he has inspected the roads that have been installed up to date and find them satisfactory, of course the drainage has not been in-. stalled, but he is satisfied with the drainage plan as shown on the map. (Mr. Van Tuyl stated that there is one cloth copy of the map missing. The normal supplier is unable to make another map but Mr. Van Tuyl has made an effort to secure one and will have another cloth print in the near future. ) THE CHAIRMAN: We will waive the second cloth copy as long as it is forthcoming in the near future. THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who wishes to be heard either in favor of or in opposition to this subdivision known as Orient By The Sea, Section Two? (There was no response. ) THE CHAIRMAN: Hearing none I will declare the hearing closed. On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr.Unkelbach: WHEREAS Woodhollow Properties, Inc. has petitioned the Southold Town Planning Board for final approval of their plat Southold Town Planning Board -7- October 3, 1961 known as "Orient-By-The-Sea, . Section Two, " situated .at Orient Point, New York, and WHEREAS the Southold Town Superintendent of Highways has inspected the plat and found the highways in satisfactory con- dition for reasonable access and in compliance with the Highway Specifications of the Town of: Southold, and his report is hereby approved by the Planning Board; and WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to due notice thereof, held a public hearing on the matter of approval of the plat at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, and WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board waives the provision in the Rules and Regulations for the Subdivision of .Land requiring park and playground area or cash equivalent; NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the subdivision to be known as "Orient-By-The-Sea, Section Two", consisting of 68: 00 acres and owned by Woodhollow Properties,. Inc. , be approved on the basis that if dedication of the highways .to the Town of Southold is not com- pleted within 90 days from this date performance bond for their completion will be required. This plat is bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a point on the westerly line of land of the applicant and the easterly line of land of Joseph Moisa at a point about 300 feet northerly along said line from the northerly line of Main or State Road; running thence along land of Joseph Moisa northerly about 1870 feet to land of Walter Millis; thence along said land of Walter Millis, three courses, as follows: (1) northerly 75 feet; thence (2) easterly100 feet; thence (3) northerly about 250 feet to Long Island Sound; thence easterly along said Long Island Sound about 800 feet to a point about 130 feet westerly from the northwesterly corner of Lot Number 24 as shown on "Map of Orient By The Sea Section One" filed in Suffolk County Clerk's Office November 21, 1957 as Map No. 2777; thence southerly along other land of the applicant about 260 feet to a point on the northerly line of - Sound View Road about 11.0 feet westerly from the southwesterly corner of said Lot Number 24; thence south easterly on a diagonal line across said Sound View Road about 55 feet to the northwesterly corner of Lot Number 25 on said map; thence southerly along the westerly line of said Lot Number 25, 146. 26 feet; thence in a general easterly i; Southold Town Planning Boar. -8- October' 3l 1961 direction along the southerly end of ,lots numbers 25 to 33 inclusive, about 800 feet; thence in a general -southerly direction along the westerly end of.Lots numbers. 34 to 43 inclusive and across two unnamed 50 .foot strips and then along the westerly line of Lot Number 4, a total of about 1300 feet; thence westerly along the northerly line of Lot .Number 2, thence across' Plum Island Lane and then, along Lot number l, . about 430 feet; thence southerly along the westerly line.' of said Lot number 1, thence across ' Park- View Lane and then along other land of the applicant, about 400 feet to the northeasterly corner of land of Edwin H. King; thence westerly along said land of Edwin H. King about 550 feet to the northwesterly corner of said King's . land; thence southwesterly along other: land of the applicant about 520 feet; thence westerly along otherland of the applicant about 110 feet to the point of beginning. Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach. The Board discussed with Superintendent of Highways Price the matter of leaching areas. The Chairman stated: It is the understanding of the Planning Board that there is some question about the area of leaching areas and involving primarily the slope or actual net drainage area. and in a discussion sometime ago with the Superintendent of Highways it was the feeling of the Chairman that at some time in the future .this should be prescribed in detail by-the number of. square feet .of vertical drainage area required. In the meantime I feel this only fair to 1e_ave this up to the Superintendent of Highways. (Mr. Price stated he would give the Board a letter on this. -- Mr. Van Tuyl .is to prepare drawings of catch basins for the Board. ) . Irving L. Price, Jr. , Esq. . appeared before the Planning Board to again discuss ,Cleaves 'P.oint, Section Two at--.East Marion. The Planning Board stated that they have not received a reply from Town Attorney Tasker relative to the questions posed by Mr. Price at the last- Planning Board meeting. The Planning Board had not - given approval to the' C.leaves Point, . Section Two map because no access to water had been provided. Mr. Price contended. that the roads .are to be private therefore his client should not be made to provide. access to the water. The Chairman read the preamble of the Southold Town Planning Board -9- October 3, 1961 Rules and Regulations for the Subdivision of=Land to Mr.- Price. Item 3 states: "To provide adequate access for fire fighting equipment, snow removal equipment, ambulances, police cars, and other emergency vehicles. " Item 6 states: "To provide for the orderly development of waterfront property. " The Board directed that- a letter be forwarded to Town Attorney Tasker. requesting his immediate attention to the Planning Board' s letter of. October. 4th pertaining to Cleaves Point-. Section Two. The Board also asked that Mr. Tasker be present- at the next Planning Board meeting, if possible, to discuss "Cleaves Point with Mr. Price and the Planning Board. to A letter was also/be forwarded to Mr..' Price advising him that the Planning Board has requested the Town Attorney to be present at the next. meeting and if this can be arranged he will be notified. Mr. Van Tuyl inquired as to the status of the proposed dedica- tion of Gull Pond Lane at the proposed subdivision of 'Fordham Acres. As per the motion made at the Planning Board in September, the file was returned to the Town Board stating that the Planning- Board finds this application to be a departure from Town policy -in that this proposed road does not have the required turn-around at the water and the Planning Board would not be willing to approve the highway at the present time. The Planning Board received a letter from the Suffolk-County Department of Planning stating that -.Pursuant to Section 1304 of the Suffolk County Charter, the Suffolk -County--Planning Commission at a Special Meeting held on September 20, 1961, considered .Amendment No. 46, . Woodhollow Properties, Inc. , . Orient, . New York, amendment to the' Southold Town Building Zone Ordinance. It was the decision of the Commission to approve the amendment. The next meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board will be held November 1, 1961, Town Clerk .Office, Main Road,- Southold, New York at 7: 30 P.M. On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was ' RESOLVED that the minutes of the meeting of: September 13, 1961 be approved as read. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- -Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, . Mr. Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach. Southold Town Planning Board -10- October 3, 1961 Mr. Unkelbach apologized for his absence from the September meeting. Due to an error in the post office he did not receive his card until one week after the meeting had been held. As stated in the- September minutes, the following is the metes and bounds description in connection with the Victoria application for a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M" Multiple Residence District: Beginning at a point on the westerly boundary line of premises of William Victoria and Regina G. Victoria which point is located South 25053 ' West a distance of 250. 00 feet from a concrete monument set in the southerly line 'of Main Bayview Road at the northwest corner of said premises of William Victoria and Regina G. Victoria; running thence South 64007 ' east along lands of William Victoria and Regina G. Victoria a distance of 840. 00 feet to the westerly side of a private roadway; running thence South 50°15120" west along and across said private roadway a distance of 88.40 feet to a concrete monument and the meadow land now or formerly of Howard M. Terry and others; running thence North 83008 ' west along said last mentioned lands a distance of 75. 37 feet to a concrete monument and the shores of a pond; running thence along the shores of said pond as the same winds and turns the tie lines of which are South 75021' 50" west 257. 72 feet and North 0005110" west 72. 19 feet to a concrete monument; running thence North 65002 ' 10" west a distance of 21. 11 feet to a concrete monument; running thence South 18047120" west a distance of 146.11 feet to a post and the shores of Corey Creek; run- ning thence along the shores of. Corey Creek as the same winds and turns the tie line of which is South 77036120" west 639. 22 feet to lands now or formerly of the Koke Estate; running thence North 250 53 ' east through a concrete monument and along said lands now or formerly of the Koke Estate a distance of 748. 92 feet to the point or place of beginning. Meeting adjourned at , 10: 00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Judith T. Boken, Secretary John Wickham, Chairman