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Southold Torn Planning Board
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
F-lenry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William Unkelbach
M 1 N U T E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
July 26j, 1960
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board
was held ?s30 P.M, , Tuesday,, July 26, 1960 at the Town. Clerk
Office,, Main Roads Southold,,, New York.
There were presents Messrs. John Wickham,, Chairman#,
.Henry Moisa* Alfred Grebe,.. Archibald Young# and William
Unkelbach.
Also presents Messrs. Otto W. Van Tuyl & Howard M. Terry.
and Mr. George Williamsons observing.
The minutes of the meeting of JLy 6-, . 1960r on motion of
Mr. Unkelbach„ seconded by Mr. . Grebe, and carried,, were approved
as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-- Mr.- Wickham Mr. Moisa-# Mr.
Grebe,- Mr. Young,,_ and Mr.. Unkelbach.
in discussing the resolution approving the subdivisions
it was the .suggestion of the Chairman that in the future the
word "hereby" be added to the followings " HF:RFAS the Southold
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Town Superintendent of Highways has inspected the plat and
found the highways in satisfactory conditim for reasonable
access and in compliance with the Highway Specifications of
the Town of Southold* and his report is HEREBY approved by
the Planning Board --. "
The Planning Board received, letters from the Planning
BoardRs of the Towns of Babylon, Huntington,, Islip and Smithtown*,
in response to our letters of July 7th requesting information
in regard to the allocation of parks and playgrounds or .the
collection of fees in lieu thereof..
The Town of Babylon does not require fees on small develop-
ments and the Rules and ReguJa tions for the Subdivision of Land
state that "The Planning Board shall specify to the extent
required,. the allocation of playfields,R parks and other open
public spaces that may be essential to the property development
of the areas or neighborhood. "
The Town of Huntington states that they generally require
cash which then can be used by the Town to acquire land where
it deems is the best location for a park,_ playground or other
recreational area. Up to 10% of the land may be designated, as
a park or recreational area, if in the Planning Board's opinion
It is in the interest of the general public due to topography,
historical interests., natural features or unusual conditions_
The Town of Huntington has a scale which runs from V0.00 per
lot for 1/3 acre plots. to $150. 00 for 1 and 2 acre lots and
$500.00 per acre for multiple family.
The Town of Islip requires 3/ of the areak exclusive of
streets* This requirement may be modified by the Planning Board
where it is,, in the opinion of the Boards advantageous to accept
in lieu of actual park and playground the equitable sum of $50. 00
per building plot for recreational purposes®
The Town of Smithtown states that our policy is precisely
the same as theirs. If a certain subdivision contains 50 lots
and the Town Assessors certify that the actual value of the
land at that ldcation is $5500 per acres, the park fee: would
than be determined by multiplying 50/100 times $5500 to arrive
at a fee of $2750 for that plat,
It was decided, since we were awaiting additional information
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from the Town. of Huntington and a reply to our letter from
the Town of Brookhaven„ that further discussion on this matter
would be held at the next Planning Board meeting.
Mrs_ Boken presented to the Planning Board a sample form
for a "Planning Board Action}' on the matter of subdivisions.
Authorization was given for a draft to be drawn of this form
for the Planning Board's perusal,
The Planning Board received, from the Suffolk County Plan-
ning Commission,, a letter giving the specifications for the Long
Island Expressway which is aligned as far- as Yaphank Avenue,
Yaphank, and a draft of a Resolution on Extending the Long Islas d
Expressway by the Planning Boards of Riverhead and Southold Towns.
The Planning Board thoroughly discussed this resolution at
some length and found it to be satisfactory with the exception
of the 4th paragraph and the insertion of an additional, paragraph#
which would then become the 4th paragraph.
On motion of Mr. Moisa._ seconded by Mr. Young, and carriedp.
it was RESOLVED that the resolution read as follows:
"RESOLUTION ON EXTENDING THE LONG ISLAND EXPRESSWAY
BY THE
PLANNING BOARDS OF RIVERHEAD AND SOUTHOLD TOWNS
WHEREAS,, good highway transportation is vital to the
economic life of Suffolk County, including the Town of Southold
and. the Town. of Riverhead;
WHEREAS,, these towns lack adequate east-west arterial
routes for the development of commerce and industry, for use
by the increasing number of residents#, and to provide commun-
ication with western Suffolk,E Nassau County and New York City.p
WHEREAS, the Long Island Expressway is under construction
as a major east west highway„ connecting the western towns of
Suffolk with Nassau and New York Cityt and is being extended as
far east as Riverhead„
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WHEREAS,t_ the present highway facilities in existence
in the Town s of Riverhead and Southold are totally inadequate
to handle the expected increase of traffic coming from and
going into the proposed terminus of the bong island Expressway
at Riverhead, BE IT THEREFORE
RESOLVED4 that the Planning Boards of the Town of Riverhead
and the Town of Southold recommend to the New York Btate Depart-
ment of Public Works the extension of the song Island Expressway
or a suitable arterial highway to a terminus in the Town of
Southold in order to serve the entire North Fork of Long Island
and Shelter Island; and BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED4 that the Planning Board of the Town of Southold
and the Town of Riverhead request the support of the County of
Suffolk for this extension of the Long island Expressway and
ask the County of Suffolk and State of New York to jointly
map a right-of-way for the Expressway extension; and
That for purpose of economy and good planning, land for
this right-of-way be acquired at the earliest opportunity,,.
either by the County,, to be turned over later to the State of
New York, or by the State itself, and
That the Planning Boards of Riverhead and Southold Towns
indicate their desire to cooperate fully with the County of
Suffolk and the New York State Department of Public Works in
mapping the route of the Expressway., and in planning service
roads;,. access roads and all other matters connected with the
proposed extension of the Expressway in which, action by the
towns may be helpful. "
Vote of the Boards Ayes:- Mr_ Wickham_ Mr. Moisa,R Mr.
Grebe, Mr. Young, and Mr.. Unkelbach.
On Motion of Mr. Grebe.,,. seconded by Mr. Unkelbach„_ and
carried* it was
RESOLVED that a letter be forwarded to Mr. William N.
Leonard,' Planning Consultant$,--to the Suffolk County Planning
Commission# stating that the Southold Planning .Board suggests
the resolutionto read as cited above and suggest that he take
it up with the Riverhead Planning Board and advise us of their
decision. It was further stated to Mr. Leonard that a letter
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with a copy of the resolution will be forwarded to Shelter
Island as they will become involved.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Wickahm,_ Mr. Moira,,, Mr_
Grebe,, Mr. Youngs and Mr. Unkelbach_
On motion of Mr. Young,, seconded by Mr. Moisa* and carried,
it was
RESOLVED that Mr. Van Tuyl be delegated to discuss this
matter of the Resolution with Shelter Island in the near future.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham,. Mr. Moisa,,. Mr.
Grebe, Mr, Young,, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Planning Board received, from the Town Board,, the
original petition of Alexander T. B1ooma relative to a change
of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to
"B" Business District on certain real property situated at
Mattituck, Town of Southold, and mpre particularly bounded, and
described as follows:
Beginning at a point on, the North side of Main (State)
Road at a concrete monument at the southeaterly corner of the
lands of one W. Konkel; and running thence the two following
courses along said lands of W. Konkelz-
(1) North 22 deg 55' 50" West 150 feet to a monument]
(2) South 52 deg. 021 101" West 60.18 feet to a monument
and land of G. Ira Tuthill;
thence along said land of Tuthill,, North 22 deg_ 58: 101"
West 36.41 feet to a steel axelt thence the 2 following courses
along lands of Charles A. Price IZZ:-
(1) North 23 deg. .03 " 00" West 258-91 feet to a monument;
(2) North 58 deg. 321 00" East 213.09 feet;
thence along the land now or formerly of Della H. Chew,
part of the way along the Westerly side of a certain driveway.,
the following 2 coursesz-
(1) South 23 deg. 03x 00" East 316.82 feet;
(2) South 37 deg. 5V 501" East 100.00 feet to an iron pipe
on the Said Northerly lane of the Main (State) Road;
thence along said Northerly line of the Main (State) Road,,
South 52 deg. 024 10" West 184.. 98 feet to the point or place of
beginning.
Southold Town Planning BoarA -6- July 260 1960
Map of land surveyed for Alexander Bloom at Mattituck,
Town of Southold, .New York,, by Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son, surveyed
May 17,. 1960.
Applicant gives the following reasons for the requested
change of zones I have contracted to sell the property to Sidney
Packer,- who is the owner of ,Packer's Wholesale Candy, Paper and
Syrup Distributor of 330 Nassau Road,_ Huntington Station,, New
York.. The sale of said land is contingent upon my being able to
have the property re zoned as business property. Mr. Packer is
desirous of extending his business to the Eastern part of Long
Island and would like to erect a building for his wholesale
distributing business. In the event of my being unsuccessfully
able to have the land rezoned, the contract is null and void and
the sale of the land would not be consumated.
It was the decision of the Board that they would investigate
the property before making their recommendation to the 'Town Board.
Since the property of Charles A. Price, III is already business,
and this would be the extension of a business district, Mr.
Unkelbach advised he would speak to Mr. Konkel about his feelings
relative to having his propertyalso zoned "B" Business.
'Phis application for. a change of zone from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to. ?B" Business District will be further
discussed at the next Planning Board meeting.
The Planning Board received, from Mr. George F. Grathwohl,
New Suffolk, New York three prints of the proposed layout of
two highways at New Suffolk which he and his wife desire to
dedicate to the Town of Southold for highway purposes_ Said
highways being shown as Fishers Road and Fred Street. Map of
proposed highways to be known as Fred Street and Fisher Road
at New Suffolk, Town of Southold, surveyed July 134 1960 by
Otto W, Van Tuyl & Song Greenport. Fred Street is the one
running northerly from the end of Fisher Road to Elsie Road
approximately 760 feet..,. Fisher Road is the one running easterly
from Grathwohl Road. In February 1960 Mr. Grathwohl was granted,
by the Planning Board,,- tentative permission to clear and grade
a proposed road at. New Suffolk running easterly from Grathwhol
Road approximately 345 feet and northerly toward an unnamed road
approximately 760 feet.
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On motion of Mr. Unkelbach}. seconded by Mr... Moisa, and .
carried*' it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board recommend to the Town
Board that the highway layout of George F. Grathwohl at New .
Suffolk. New York* be approved as shown on map of Proposed
Highways to be. Known as Fred Street and Fisher Road at New
Suffolk,. New York. ' Survey by Otto W. Van Tuyl & Song July
13,, 1960.
Vote of the Boards Ayes:-- Mr, Wickham,. Mr. Moisat. Mr.
Grebe,. Mr. Young* and Mr. Unkelbach.
It was further RESOLVED by Mr. Grebe,, seconded by Mr.
Unkelbach and carried,
That a copy of the above mentioned survey be forwarded
to the Town Board with the recommendation* a copy be forwarded
to Mr. Grathwohl,. c% Mr. Robert Dart, advising of our recom-
mendation, and a copy be retained for the files of the Planning
Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham Mr. Moisa* Mr.
Grebe, Mr. Younger and Mr, Unkelbach.
On motion of Mr. Young, seconded by Mr. Grebe.,_ and carriedv,
it was
RESOLVED that a letter be forwarded to Robert W„ Tasker„,
Esq., Town Attorney„ requesting that he be present at the next
meeting of the Planning Board to discuss the Health Department
ruling for 'lot sizes in subdivisions and the new State of New
York Public Health Law pertaining to filing a map where the sub-
division of land contains five or more lots_ The Planning Board
would also like to know if the Real Property Law has ever.. been
implemented by decisions or any ruling by the Court. The "Board
would further like to know whether or not the Town officials are
responsible for enforcing the government and State lawso.or are
they just responsible- fox enforcing the laws Set up by the Town
itself,
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickahm4 Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Grebe# Mr. Youngs and Mr. Unkelbach.
Southold Town Planning Board -8- July 26,. 1960
The next meeting of the Southold. Town Planning Board
will be held Tuesday., August 16,,E 196041 7:30 P.M. , at the
Town Clerk Office,.. Main Road, Southold, New York.
The Planning Board discussed the petition of Mary E. and
Margurite E. Scholtz for a change of zone from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "B" Business District on certain
reel property situated at Laurel,#- New York. On .July 7# 1960
the Planning Board had recommended this change of zone on the
Town Boards own motion to include all property from Aldrich
Lane west to and including the Eastern T. V. business building
owned by Edward Scholtz and also include the sand pit operation
located northeasterly from the Main Road-
Mr- Terry# Building Inspector# advised the Board that the
Town Board wished Mr. Van Tuyl to drawup a map on this area and
would like to have more specific boundaries that the Planning
Board had in mind,
Mr. Van Tuyl was advised that the zone should start at the
western boundary line of Eastern T.V. and run easterly to
Alrich Lane, thence northerly up the westerly side of Aldrich
Lane to include the cemetery and the potato building and part
of the sand pit operation which is located northeasterly from
the Main Road.
The Board briefly discussed the possibility of another
commercial airport in the Town, Mr. Terry advised a party
interested in such a venture had discussed it with him. The
Planning Board stated they would take it up at their next
meeting and consider picking out several possible locations
for this airport.
Meeting adjourned at 10:35 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,_
Judith T. Boken
Secretary
John Wickham, Chairman