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Southold Town Planning Board
�+' • SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Molsa
Alfred Grebe
Henry Raynor
Frank Coyle
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN' 'PLANNING BOARD
September 1'" 1970
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was
held at . 7:30 PM:,, Tuesday.. September 1, 19701. at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold,. New . York.
There- were present: Messrs: John Wickham,. Chairman; Henry
Moisar. Vice-Chairman; Henry Raynor;. Frank Coyle; Alfred Grebe.
Also present: Howard Terry,. Building Inspector
. Joseph Snellenburgr. Esq. appeared before the Planning Board
in reference to proposed subdivision of Andrew Dzenkowski,_ property
located at east side of Rocky Point Road, and north and south side
of Southern Blvd. to Cedar Drive.. East Marion. Preliminary approval
was previously requested, but not granted because the Board suggested
that he negoiate with Edna Brown to purchase her: right-of-way adjoining
,the property on the north end. Mr. Snellenburg advised the Board that
negoiations have been completed,,. Mrs. Brown has agreed to sell the
right-of-way,, but title has not been cleared yet. The Board inspected
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the map again. All lots on the north side of Southern Blvd. contain -
40,000 sq. ft. of area or over, but the lots on the south side of
Southern Blvd. contain only 33,.000 -to 36,000 sq. ft. of area,- and
the 2 lots on the east side of: Cedar Road contain only 33,.,000 sq.
ft. of area each. The Vice Chairman suggested that we take no
action on this subdivision until such time as an approval is received
from the Health Dept. for these undersized lots. Mr. Snellenburg
stated that he had spoke with the Health Dept. informally and that
they told him that they would more or less have to allow these lots
because of the shape of the property which makes it impossible to
divide it differently. The, Chairman suggested that the' Planning
Board could send a letter of transmittal to the Health Dept.
recommending approval on the basis of Southern Blvd., being an
existing Town Highway which makes it impossible to change the
location of the road,-, and on the basis of the fact that the- application
was submitted before 'January 1,. 1970. The Chairman also suggested
that the large lot on the northeast corner of Southern Blvd. and
Rocky' Point Road,. which contains Dzenkowski='s residencet' be given
a number to prevent him from subdividing it any further in the future.
Decision reserved at this time,..' to be made later in the evening.
Mrs. Constance Moore appeared before the Planning Board in
reference to the- Samuel E. Darby Estates Nassau Point,: Cutchogue.
The property contains approximately 1.'9 acres of land. The family
wishes to divide the estate .into 3 parcels so that each can have
a part of the estate. On the westerly half of the property which
fronts on the Bay..' is a large 3 story house which Mrs. Moore wishes
to acquire for herself,' on the northeast end is a garage: with apart-
ments above which one of the brothers will receive,' the southeast
section will go to the other brother. The right-of-way at. the
entrance to the property is 25 feet :in width,, but widens out to
75 feet in the center of the property due to a fairly large circle
of land contained in the center of the right-of-way. The Chairman
suggested eliminating this right-of-way at its present location
and replacing it with a 25 ft. right-of-way to be located further
to the west so as to balance the area of the 3 lots more closely.
The' Chairman sketched in the new location of the proposed right-
of-way and the division lines of the proposed :lots. This division
will create lots of less than 40,;000 sq. ft.,, which the Board will
approve due to the fact that the map of Nassau Point Properties is
part of the Zoning Ordinance.' Mrs. Moore to have map revised by
Van Tuyl as shown on this preliminary map dated Feb. 13,-' 19702
revised August 6a_ 1970 by Van Tuyl.
On motion by Mr. Coylez-. seconded by Mr. Raynor,. it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant preliminary
approval to the proposed rwinor subdivision map :af .the Samuel E. Darby
Estate,, property located at southwest end of Vanston Road,- Nassau
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Point,; Cutchogue, New .York,' as sketched in by the Chairman on map
dated Feb. 13.. 1970,; revised August 6,,, 1970 by Otto Van Tuyl.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Messrs:- Wickham,. Moisa,, Raynor,,: ,
Coyle,, Grebe.
Mr. .& Mrs. Russell Broache appeared before the Planning
Board in reference to Cove Beach Estates..' property located at
East' Marion. Mr. Otto Uhl had previously appeared at the
Planning Board meeting held on July 13the at which time he
requested approval of a major subdivision of 15 lots,. 5 lots,
fronting on L:'I. Sound and 10 "interior lots immediately 'to
the south. The Board advised him -that the lots fronting. on
the Sound must have at least 135ft. frontage,. and that" the
right-of-way should be at least 50 .ft. wide and labeled as
"reserved for possible future dedication to the Town. " At
that time Mr. Uhl was- to have map revised accordingly. Mr.
Broache presented the Board. with revised map showing only
the 5 lots fronting on the Sound,. the frontage has been
increased to 135 ft, and the right-of-way- widened to 50 ft.
and labeled as "reserved for possible future dedication to
the Town. " The Chairman advised them .that the -Board will
not- accept this map as presented because of the large ..parcels
of land to the south and east which are in the same ownership
and not shown on the, map as part of the subdivision.
Mr. Ernest Wilsberg presented the Planning Board. with
preliminary map ,for proposed subdivision to be located -at
south side of Orchard Streets Orient,, Entire parcel contains
12.4 acres of land. The preliminary map showed 8 lots,: all
containing over 40e000 sq. ft, of area. The southwesterly
section of property,' about 4 acres,- was not contained. within
the subdivision. The Board advised him .that since this is a
major subdivision it could be divided into section one and
two,. the southeasterly parcel could be Section Il, and the
southwesterly parcel could be section II.
On motion by Mr. Wickham,' seconded by Mr. Grebe,. it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant
preliminary approval to Section I of the proposed subdivision
of Ernest & Harold Wilsberg,- property located at south side
of"Orchard Stree ,Oriente" New York,. as shown on survey by
Van Tuyl dated August 5, 1960.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Messrs: Wickham, Moisa,' Raynor,:
Coyles' Grebe.
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Mr, Andrew Cyprus` President of Nick & Nicki Hair: Stylistsr,
appeared before the Planning Board to request final approval of
his minor subdivision, property located at south side of Sound
Beach Drive and north side of Summit Drive,,; Lot # 10 of Capt.
Kidd Estates,,. Mattituck. The .map showed 2 lots each containing
at least 20,000 sq. ft. of area. The map showed a 15 ft. right-
of-way on .the west side of Lot fronting on Summit Drive. This
right-of-way is to be used as access for the lot fronting on
Sound Beach Drive. , The Board. was agreeable to accepting this
minor subdivision on the basis of the fact that the property
has city water supplied by the Capt.' Kidd Water Co. which
allows him to have the minimum of 20s:000 sq. ft. of area per
lot,: and on the basis that the applicant owns no adjoining
lands, or other land in the area.
On motion by Mr. Coyle,; seconded by Mr. Grebeil it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant final
approval to the minor subdivision of Nick & Nicki Hair Stylists,,
Inc.. property located at south side of Sound Beach Drive,,, and
north side of Summit Drives_ Mattituck:: New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham,' Moisas_ Raynor,,•
Coyle,. Grebe,
The Planning Board received from the .Town Board the original
petition of Dri-Gen Realty,,. Corp. ..; Inc. : North Oakwood Drive.,,
Laurel,, New York,. relative to a change of zone from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "B-2" Business District. on certain
real property,_ together with the instructions to prepare an official
report defining the conditions contained therein.
This property is situated at Greenport, in the Town of Southold,.
County of Suffolk and State of New York,, and more particularly
bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a stone monument set at the intersection of the
. southerly side of Main Road with the westerly side of Ninth Street;
running thence along -the westerly side of Ninth Street south
12 degrees 12 minutes 10' seconds West 756.57 feet to a railroad
monument set in the Northerly boundary of land now or formerly of
the Long Island Railroad Company;
thence along, said northerly boundary of land of the' Long
Island Railroad Company south 84 degrees 10 minutes 40 seconds
West 418.70 feet to a stone monument set in the southeasterly
corner of land now or formerly of Cassidy;
e:L thence along the easterly boundary of said land of Cassidy
North 11 degrees 26 minutes 00 seconds `East 767.10 feet to a
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stone monument set in- the southerly- side of Main Road;
thence along the southerly side of Main Road North 81 degrees
49 minutes 10 seconds East 194.20 feet to, a stone monument;
thence continuing along the southerly side• of Main .Road North
8.9 degrees 33 minutes 30 seconds' East 232,16 feet to the point or
place of beginning.
Which said premises are more particularly bounded and described
as follows: ALL those certain plots, pieces, or parcels of land with
the buildings and improvements there on erected known and designated
as Lot numbers' One (1) through twenty eight (28) inclusive.. as shown
on Map of Greenport Homes at Greenport., Town of Southold,; Suffolk
County,; New York, filed in the Office of the Clerk of Suffolk County
as Map No. 2014 on January 20,' 1953.
The Board discussed this proposed change of zone at some length.
Decision was reserved on the above proposed .change of zone
until later in the evening.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the original
petition. of Andiew" Cassidy,, Albertson Lane, Greenport,. New York.'
relative to a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
District to"M-1" Multiple Residence District,, on certain real
property, together with the instructions to ,prepare an official
report defining the conditions contained therein.
This property is situated at- Greenport,; in the Town of Southold..
County of Suffolk and State of .New York,. and more particularly
bounded and described as follows:
Bounded northerly by the Main Road running between Greenport
and Southold; easterly by land and buildings of Dri-Gen Realty
Corporation; southerly by land of Long Island Railroad Company;
westerly by land and buildings of Fleet Lumber Company; containing
four and twenty-six hundreths acres (4.26A) and being the same
premises owned by Andrew Cassidy.
After much discussion it was agreed that it would be .better
to have a "B-2" Business classification, similar to the application
on the adjoining premises of Driscoll & 'Gendron on the easterly
side. Letter to be sent to Mr. Cassidy suggesting that he amend
his application to read "B-2" Business District.; '
On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Moisa,_ it was
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RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board table
recommendation on the application of Dri=Gen Realty Corp. ,.
North Oakwood Roads Laurels, New York,, for proposed change
of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to
"B-2" Business District on property located at south side
Main Road, Greenport, New York.
It is the opinion of the Planning Board that this application
should be considered in conjunction with the application on the
adjoining premises of Andrew Cassidy.
. Recommendations will be made' on both of these proposed change'
of zone application upon receiving the amended petition of Andrew
Cassidy.
Vote of .the Board: Ayes:-Messrs: Wickham.. Moisas_ Raynor,,.
Coyle, Grebe,
Arnold Larsen appeared before the Planning Board in reference
to proposed minor subdivision of Theodore Dowd, property located at
south side Soundview Ave: and east side of Lighthouse Road,, Southold.
The map showed 8 lots.. 3 'fronting on Soundview Ave. .. and 5 'fronting
on Lighthouse Road., all containing over 20..000 sq. ft. of area, but
less than 40,000 sq.' ft. of area. The Board informed him ..that they
will not accept lots containing less than 40,.000 sq, ft, of area.
The Chairman suggested .that it be cut down to 5 lots,,. 2 on Soundview
Ave. and 3 on Lighthouse Road, Mr. Larsen stated that it would be
impractical to cut the 3 lots on Soundview Ave. Down to 2 .1ots
because it would create lots with excessive road frontage. The
Chairman stated that the Board might possibly accept 6 lots, depending
on the lay-out. . Map to be revised by- surveyor,
Mrs. Rose Koroleski appeared before the Planning Board in
regard to the status of the improvements in "Rosewood Estates".
Riverhead Cement Block had installed the curbing and drainage
during the spring of 1969. Corazzini was to do, the roads
shortly thereafterr.' but due to a setback in scheduler the roads
have not yet been completed, Mr. Corazzini is ready to proceeds
but wants a letter from the Planning Board stating that the
curbing and drainage meet all of the specifications.. Chairman
John Wickham.: Supt. of Highways Ray Dean, and Construction
Inspector Chas. Abrahams,,. to make an inspection of the improve-
ments and send copies of report to Koroleskis`.. Riverhead
Cement Block,. and Corazzini.
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RichardLarkr. Esq. appeared before the Planning Board to
request approval .of_ division of property for George R, Clary,,
lot located at north side Sterling Road, west side of Horton
Road, and south side of Lilac Lanet Nassau. Point, Cutchogue.
The lot has 100 .ft, frontage on Sterling Road, 362.5"ft. frontage
on Horton Roads and 118+ft. on Lilac' Lane... it contains approxi-
mately 37,000 sq, ft, of area. Mr. Clary is requesting permission
to divide this lot in half. 'The lot to the west has been sold
to R. Reibe, it is no longer owned by Clary. The Board discussed
this proposed division at some .length,: no action taken at this
time, to be discussed again .at the next meeting.
The Chairman read the report of the Agricultural Study
submitted by Dr. Joseph Sullivan.
The Chairman informed the Board that the Commoners of the
Town of Southold are ready to enter into scenic easement and
negative easement contracts. The Chairman has received several
contracts which he will present to the Town Board at their next
meeting on Sept. 8th.
Final information meeting on Master Plan, to be held sometime
at -the end of the month or early October. The. Chairman suggested
that information be sent to the newspapers to inform the public
and brief them on the material. The Chairman also suggested that
some sort of 'fly folder or information sheet, be printed to hand
out to the people at the meeting.
Richard Lark,. Esq. and Gus Schad appeared before -the Planning
Board- for an informal discussion on proposed change of zone application
of Gus Schad,; property located at' north side of Route 25... Greenportr:
N.'Y.' The proposed density will be 7 units per. acre,. there will be
29 apartment buildings,, containing a total of 350 units. There is
still some discretion on how the 150 ft. strip off the road should
be zoned. The Board suggested that a scenic easement be placed on
it" Mr. Schad was a little hesitant about placing a scenic easement
on it. Decision to be made by Mr. Schad and application to be
amended accordingly.
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Richard Lark... Esq. presented the Board with map of property
owned by Elsie Grathwohl located at E/S Grathwohl Road and W/S
Fred Street,: New Suffolk,- and property of G:W ' Grathwohl. Estate
located at E/ S New Suffolk Lane..; S/S Tuthill Road' and MIS
Grathwohl Road.: New Suffolk,, New York. Mr. Lark requested
suggestions for dividing this property. . Preliminary map to
be drawn up and presented in the future.
On motion by Mr: Wickham,,_ seconded by Mr. Moisa,,- it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Planning Board
dated August 10r; 1970- be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Wickham' . Moisa., Raynori
Coyle._ Grebe.
On motion by Mr. Moisa..: seconded by Mr.' Raynor., it was
RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town
Planning Board be held at 7:30 P.X,' Thursday.4' September 3t 1970i,
at the Town Office,. Main Roadlf SotithoIldat! New YorXq;
Vote of'..the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Wickham,. Moisa; Raynor;
Coyle,.; Grebe.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:45 P.'IM.
Respectfully submitted&.'
Betty a ille'z.*` Secretary
Southold Town 'Plannning Board
n- IcKnamg Chairman
Southold Town Planning Board