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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-10/04/1960 f ' J �O Southold. Town Planning Board S0UTH0LD, L. I., N. Y. PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS. John Wickham, Chairman Henry Moisa Alfred Grebe Archibald Young William Unkelbach M I NU T B S SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD October 4x.. 1960 A regular meeting .of the Southold Town Planning Board was held 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, October 4,,. 1960., at the Town Clerk Office, Main Road,. Southold New York.. • There were presents Messrs_ John Wickham, . Chairman, Henry Moisa, Alfred GrebeR Archibald Young, and William Unkelbach. Also presents Mr_ Otto W, Van Tuyl„ Consultant. Mr. James A. Hewlett, representing Mr- Walter'Uhl of Woodhollow Properties, Inc...,, 3 Glen Laney Glenwood Landing, New York, appeared before the Planning Board to discuss the acceptance of the roads in Section 1 of orient-By-The-Sea. On September 14 Mr.. Uhl corresponded with the Chairman requesting that an inspection be made of the completed roads and sections of roads within Section 1, Orient-By-The-Sea', Orient Point since they are now ready to dedicate the roads to the Town of Southold. However, before preparing the nec- essary instrument they wished to know whether or not the Town Southold Town Planning Board -2- October 40 1960 would accept such dedication. The roads named werezPlum Lane, Parkview Lane,: Three Waters Lane and Soundview Road.. Upon receipt of the abovementioned letter a copy was forwarded to the Superintendent of Highways, Harold Price, referring the matter to him. His reply, dated September 28,E 1960... was that the Town of Southold will not accept roads as Town highways on water front property which do not terminate at the water. Upon inspection of the. roads, after the last rain, he found that all bains were full and running over and the Town is not satisfied with the basins taking care of the roads adequately. Mr.. Uhl sent a reply to Mr.. Pricexs letter on .September 30th to the Planning Board Chairman stating that he does not understand .one paragraph. He was of the opinion the matter of a road terminating at .the water would be resolved upon the filing of Section 2- Of Orient--By-The-Sea which would provide for a road terminating at the water and such a preliminary plat was approved by the Planning Board on August 22* 1960. On the matter of the road basins over- flowingr .Mr. Uhl recalled that there had been unusually severe rain storms with 4 inches of rain within 24 hours. However a few days later he inspected the drains and found they were draining satis- factorily and also there had been no washouts or road repairs necessary. Mr, Van'Tuyl stated that he had spoken with Harold Price and Mr. Price had advised that the construction of the roads in Section 1 were very good .and if they followed that in Section 2 it will be very good. However, he did not think the drainage would be adequate. There are two basins, one at each side of the entrance road to Orient-by--The--Sea which were supposed to take care of the flow so that it will not go on to the State road. Mr. Price indicated to Mr. . Van Tuyl that 'if he had some wind of statement from the State Department of Public Works that they will be satisfied with . the drains he will be willing to accept them. However,# the Chair- man stated he is not sure that the Town will accept dedication of the roads in Section 1 without an iron-clad agreement about the roads in Section 2. it is the opinion of the Planning Board that Mr. Uhl has three alternatives which are as followsz (1. ) Give a performance bond for that section of road to the beach which lies in Section 2. (This would have to have the approval of the Town Attorney. ) 2x(2.) Either this fall or next spring construct that section of Soundview Avenue Southold Town Planning Board -3- October 41 1960 in Section 2 which runs to the Sound and dedicate that part to the Town. (3. ) File the map of Section 2 and at that time take out a performance bond on some of the highways. (That will also require approval of the Town Attorney, ) The Board forwarded a letter to Mr. Uhl confirming the proceedings of the meeting and citing the three alternatives. It was suggested that Mr. Uhl consider these alternatives and indicate which looks most realistic to him at this time and if he will let the Planning Board know his decision we will be glad to pursue it further with Mr. Price and the Town Attorney who in the last analysis have to passon all dedications. It was stated to Mr. Uhl that there is nothing fixed about the Planning Boardl*s ideas on the matter and it is .entirely possible there may be some other combination or method by thich the Town Board can be assured that access to the water would be guaranteed. Mr.. Hewlett next discussed with' the Planning Board the matter of the Edwin H. King property at Orient Point_ Mr- Hewlett had forwarded a letter to the Planning Board dated September 30, 1960 requesting a brief statement in regard to the reasons for the Boards disapproval of the layout and asking if a different layout might be acceptable or commercial zoning is possible,. Mr. Hewlett said there were several thoughts for the use of the property, such as a motel site, or property for houses, or dredging a safe canal for the use of the property owners at Orient Hy9The--Sea. Mr. Hewlett was advised by the Board that after an investiga- tion by the Planning Board''s team it was felt this is a piece of : property which, if someone wants to develops either the federal government or State Park Commission will immediately step in and say it cannot be done. it certainly is not a choice residential. location. It was suggested that Mr. Hewlett get in touch with the federal government and State Park .Commission before making any further plans. The Planning Board received the original petition of William A. Davis from the. Town Board instructing the Planning Board to prepare 'an official report defining the conditions described in the petition and determine the area so effected with ,the recommen- dat2on of the Board. Mr. Davis requests a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M" Multiple Residence District on the following described propertys Located at the southwest corner of Fourth Street and Main Street, New Suffolk,. Southold Town Planning Board -4, October 4,#,. 1960 New Yorks Beginning at the northeasterly corner of land of the applicant ,an the southerly line of Main Street and westerly line . of Fourth Street* and running thence along the westerly .line of Fourth Street. S.5o00'W- 151. 97 feet to the northeasterly corner of land now or formerly of Ackery thence N. 8504213011W. 100_0 feet to the southeasterly corner of land now or formerly of Roaches thence N.50001E. 152.03 g feet to the southerly line of Main Streety thence S.85040130"E.. 100..0 feet along the southerly line of Main Street to the-point or place of beginning, As his reason for requesting this change of zone Mr. Davis states that the property is already in use as a boarding house with a two family cottage. He would like to -change the property as follows: leave the two family cottage as is, Oet .rid of restaurant type kitchen and dining room. Put in new bathrooms and kitchenette units to make efficiency apartments with quarters for my own familLy. The third floor is to be closed off at this time which has been used as a dormitory. They feel it is a are hazard and should not be used until fire escape or some other arrangements can be made. Mr. Young and Mr. Unkelbach .volunteered to investigate the .property and make a report at the next meeting, The Planning Board received an Information Bulletin from the Conservation Department and State Council of Parks of the State of New York relative to the $75, 000,,000 Park and Recreation Land Acquisition Bond Act. .This bulletin was ordered filed. The Planning Board received a letter from the Town of Riverhead Planning Board transmitting a copy of a resolution passed by. them relative to the proposed Long Island Expressway Extension., M,r. Walter Luce., Cutchoguex. New Yorkx appeared before the Planning Board and presented a map of property he desires to develop on Bay Avenuef, Cutchogue. The area he is irderested in developing at the present time is outlined in red and dated October 4A 1960 on map by Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son- There will be a total of 9 lots, two fronting on Bay Avenue. Each lot will contain in excess of ,20R 000 sq. ft. and a 50 ft* . road, to be known as "Alden Lane" will connect with the Town concrete road of Bay Avenue. 'This 50 ft. road .already has two coats of oil and Mr. Luce advised he intends to develop it further and dedicate it to the Town.. Southold Town Planning Board ►-5•-- October 4R 1960 After further discussion,, on motion of Mr, Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe*. and carried, it was RESOLVED that the Planning Board give Walter Luce preliminary approval of his plan containing nine lots located on the east side of Bay_Avenue, . Cutchogue,t New York. Area marked in red on map dated October 4,, 1960 by Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son,. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham* Mr. , Moisa, Mr,. Grebe,, Mr. Young, and Unkelbach, the Planning Board received a letter. from the Town Clerk transmitting the original petition of the Jr, Order United American Mechanics-& Mattituck Council 34, Mattituck, New Yorkt and instructing the Planning Board to prepare an official report defining the conditions described in the petition .and determine the area- so affected with the recommendation of the Board. This petition requests a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agri- District to "B" Business District on certain real property situated at Mattituck, New York, and more particularly bounded and described as follows: Parcel I. Northerly by the highway, eatterly by the burying ,grounds southerly by land formerly owned by the Fi.rst.Methodist Episcopal Church of Mattituck, westerly by land now or formerly owned by Mrs_ Martha Hazard being fifty feet more or less in front and rear and 75 feet deeps and being the same premises conveyed to The First Methodist Episcopal Church of Mattituck by deed recorded:'.-in the Office of the Clerk of Suffolk County in Liber 78 of deeds page 330 and also in Liber 456 of deeds at page 393, Parcel- ll, Northerly by land formerly owned by the First Methodist Episcopal Church of Mattituck 54 feet, easterly by the Mattituck Free Cemetery grounds 55 feet, southerly by the Mattituck Free Cemetery Grounds 54 feet, and westerly by the roadway leading into the cemetery grounds 55 feet, being the same premises conveyed to the First Methodist Episcopal Church of Mattituck by deed dated May 29;0 1897 and recorded in the Office of saidCounty Clerk in Liber 458 o,f Deeds at page 239 on June 1, 1897 being part of the same premises conveyed to the Brooklyn Church Society of the Methodist Episcopal Church by deed Arecorded in the office of the Clerk of Suffolk' County in Liber 955 of Deeds page 560 on the 4th day of October 1917 referred to in said deed as Parcel 1 and Parcel 2. Southold .Town Planning Board —6-- October 4,. 1960 The reason this change of zcne from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District is requested is to use the premises as a summer theatre. After further discussion, on motion of Mr- Grebe, seconded by Mr. Young, and carried; it was Ld RESaDVBD that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend to the Southold Town Board that this change of zonef rom "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District be made on the aforementioned property, Survey for Mattituck Council No. 34 Junior Order of United American Mechanics,, Mattituck, New York, Town ofSouthold4 Suffolk County by -Alden W. Young& dated December 71 1953 The Planning Board believes that the cultural value of such a project would be of considerable value to the Town of Southold& and although there is not adequate parking, at the same tame we feel the streets are wider than normal and they accomodate the members of the two churches without difficulty. Vote of the Boards. Ayes:.—, .Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, ' Mr,. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach. The Planning Board received a letter from the Town Clerk transmitting the original petition ofFRank Pumillo& Cutchogue& New York, asking for a change of zonefrom _"A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District on certain real property situated at Mattituck, New York,. and more particularly bounded and described as follows: Beginning on the boundary line dividing said Premises and land of Skuro 200 feet southerly from the monument on the south, erly side of Main Road marking the boundary line between said landsy running thence southerly along said land of Skuro 'and along land now or formerly of Abitz 242.32 feet to .a.monument and land of Shewell_;, running thence in an easterly-direction along said land of Shewell 266.3 feet to a monumnt and land of Biliunasy running thence in a northerly direction along said land of Shewell 75. 0 feet to a munument and land of Jacksony running thence westerly along said land of Jackson 79.8 feet to a monumenty - running thence northerly along said land of Jackson, Beinenger, Hallock and other land of Pumillo 285. 9 feet, more or less; running thence in a westerly direction 225.44 feet to the point or place of beginning. Southold Town Planning Board -7-1 October 4, 1960 zn ,his petition Mr. Pumillo stated that the southerly part of his property which he is asking zoned "A" is an irregularly shaped parcel with which he can do nothing under an "A" Residential Zone. It is impossible to subdivide or put one residence ;on due to the northerly part being zoned "B" and since it has no frontage on any roadway. If permission is granted to rezone to "B" Busin.ess it. is his intention to erect an attractive motel which will not only improve the location but be a needed asset to the village. After a thorough .discussion, on motion of Mr. Moisay seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, and carried, it was RESOLVED, that the Planning Hoard does not recommend the change of ,zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B" Business District as shown on map of property made for Frank Pumillo at Mattituck, New York, compiled from several surveys July 28, 1959 by 'Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son_ The Planning Board does not believe it is in the best interest of the Town pf Southold to have a motel in connection with a bar and grill. In addition., this would be out of character with the existing immediate adjacent residential area, Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickahm, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe, Mr, Young., and Mr. Unkelbach. Each member of the Planning Board received a copy of minutes submitted by Howard Terry„ Building-lnspector* of the meeting of all highway superintendents, supervisors, town planning boards.# Mr. H- L. Bishop,, Commissioner# D.P.W. and all members of County Planning Board on August 22* 1960 at the County Centers Riverhead_ The purpose of the abovementioned meeting was called by County Executive H_ Lee Dennison to consider highway matters. The minutes of the meeting .of September 6*, 1960,. on motion of Mr. Grebes sea)nded by Mr. Young.. and carriedg were approved as submitted, Vote of the Board: Ayes:�- Mr.. Wickhamx. Mr. moisa#. Mr_ Grebe* 'young; .and Mr. Unkelbach. Southold Town Planning Board -8- October. 4.1 1960 Mr. Terry referred to the Planning Board, for their perusal- a copy of the "Detailed Proposal for the Preparation of a Comprehensive Plan for the Town of Southold, " prepared by Edwin S. Voorhis & Son, Inc., Consulting Engineers and City Planners.,, 243 Main Street, Huntington., dated September 19,r 1960. Mr. Van Tuyl presented to the Planning Board the preliminary plat ofFordham Acres which receivedpreliminary approval on September 6* 1960. 'He stated that Mr. Raynor who owns the property south of Fordham Acres would like to extend Gull Pond Lane into his property to jointhe road to the south known as Anglers Road which extends to Manhanset Avenue to the south. Mr_ Raynor intends in the future to develop his property into lots_ The question posed by Mr. Preston is whether the Planning Board will require the 1.00 ft. to the water to be dedicated to the. Town as it is shown on the preliminary plan of Fordhaim.Acres if that loop road is established. The Planning Board expressed the opinion that they would not insist that they have the road there- It was stressed howevere that Mr. Van Tuyl advise Mr. Preston that the Planning Board is going to insist that the roads be dedicated to the Town of Southold and advise that it be taken up with the Town Board, but feel it would not be necessary for the Planning Board's approval of the subdivid.on as such. The next meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board will be held 7:30 P.M. .. Tuesday, November I-r. 1960, at the Town Clerk Office, Main Road,,, Southold, New York. Meeting adjourned at 10:40 P.M. Respectfully submittedo Judith T. Boken, Secretary �john Wickham, Chairman