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Southold Town Planning Board
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. 'Y. 11971
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Molsa
Alfred Grebe
Henry Raynor
Frank Coyle
M I N U T E S
. SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
December 28, 1970
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was '
held at 7: 30 P.M. , Monday, December 28, 1970, at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York. -
There were present: Messrs: John Wickham, Chairman; Henry
Moisa, Vice-Chairman; Henry Raynor; Prank Coyle.
Absent: Mr. Alfred Grebe (due to unfavorable weather conditions. )
Also present: Howard Terry, Building Inspector
The Chairman read letter received from Otto Uhl, Jr. in
support of the Master Plan and urging its immediate adoption,
copy of "Franklin Letter" also received. Letter and pamphlet
placed do file.
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Notice of extension of bond coverage for "Corey Creek Estates"
was received from the International Fidelity Insurance Company.
Subject bond is extended until June 22, 1971.
The Planning Board was presented with three (3) copies of
revised map for minor subdivision of George R. Clary, property
located at N/S Sterling Road, W/S Horton Road, and S/S Lilac
Lane, Cutchogue, New York. The revised map showed adjoining
property owners as required by the Board at their last meeting.
Formal application and fee have been received.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant final
approval to the proposed minor subdivision of George R. Clary,
property located at N/S Sterling Road, W/S Horton Road, and S/S
Lilac Lane, Cutchogue, New York.
The Chairman signed the maps.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor, Coyle.
The Planning Board was presented with a copy of the revised
Highway Specifications of Riverhead Town for their inspection.
Under these specifications everything has to be blacktopped now,
no more oil, sand, and stone, all blacktop.
The Board was notified that the time extension on the
subdivision "Shorecrest" will expire on January 8, 1971. They
had a 90 day time extension, during which time they were to
post a bond, the time extension will be up on January 8, 197,1( ,'
and they have not yet posted a bond.
The Planning Board was presented with "Informational Bulletin
No. 8" of the Suffolk County Dept. of Planning. This bulletin
contains the Rules and Regulations for the Referral of Certain
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Municipal Zoning Actions, Variances, Special Permits and Subdivision
Plats to the Suffolk County Planning Commission Pursuant to Article
XIII, Suffolk County Charter and shall be effective January 1971.
John Miesner and Jerry Horton presented the Planning Board
with revised maps showing drainage plans for the proposed sub-
division "Peconic Homes, Inc. at Mattituck" , located at south
side of Main Road, Mattituck, New York. The revised map showed
2 leaching pools with catch basins at the south end of the turn
around as suggested by the Board at the last meeting. The Board
informed them that the overflow could either go down the drain
on the blacktop or in the opposite direction down the drainage
easement by means of 18" galvanized pipe.
On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize
the transmittal of the proposed map of "Peconic Homes, Inc.
at Mattituck" to the Suffolk County Planning Commission for
their study and report.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor, Coyle.
The Board discussed the proposed change of zone application
of Anna Hansen, relative to change of zone from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "M" Multiple Residence District on
PARCEL I, and from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to
"B" Business District on PARCEL II, property located at north
side of Mill Road, Mattituck, New York. In the last conversation
with the applicant' s attorney, Richard Lark, he requested that
recommendation be postponed temporarily. Howard Terry informed
the Board that the Town Board is planning to set up a hearing date,
for this proposed change of zone at their next meeting on January
5th. The Chairman telephoned Mr. Lark and advised him of the Town
Board' s plans to set a date for hearing. Mr. Lark stated that he
had no objections to going ahead with the matter.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the original
petition of Anna C. Hansen, Mattituck, New York, relative to change
of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M"
Multiple Residence District on PARCEL I, and from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "B" Business District on PARCEL II,
on certain real property, together with the instructions to prepare
an official report defining the conditions contained therein.
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This property is situated at Mattituck, in the Town of Southold,
County of Suffolk, and State of New York, and more particularly
bounded and described as follows:
PARCEL I - BEGINNING at a monument on the North Side of Mill
Road at the Southeast corner of the premises herein described, ad-
joining land of Krupski on the East; running thence along the
Northerly side of Mill Road two (2) courses and distances as follows:
(1) South 680 14' 50" West, 304.46 feet; (2) South 830 31 ' 10" West,
53. 25 feet to a point; running thence North 120 05 ' 10" West along
other land of Anna C. Hansen (Parcel II herein) 1193. 94 feet to land
of Krupski; thence North 770 41 ' 20" East along land of Krupski 350.
00 feet to a monument; running thence along said land of Krupski,
two (2) courses and distances as follows: (1) South 120 05 ' 10"
East 908.45 feet; (2) South 120 50' 10" East 241. 00 feet to a mon-
ument on the northerly line of Mill Road, the point or place of
beginning.
PARCEL II - BEGINNING at the monument on the Northerly side of
Mill Road marking the southwesterly corner of Parcel I, running thence
along the northerly side of Mill Road four (4) courses and distances
as follows: (1) South 830 31 ' 10" West 92. 91 feet,- (2) North 570 48 '
50" West 252. 76 feet; (3) North 490 25 ' 30" West 127 . 37 feet; (4)
.North 770 34' 50" West 229. 04 feet; running thence along other land
of Anna C. Hansen two (2) courses and distances as follows: (1) North
90 4' 50" West 400. 00 feet (2) South 800 55 ' 10" West 260. 00 feet more
or less to Mattituck Creek; thence northerly along said Creek about
500. 00 feet; thence northwesterly along said Creek about 260. 00 feet
to Sebastian' s Gutter; thence Southerly along said Gutter about 200
feet; thence along the center line of a Gutter that seperates property
of Hansen and O'Keefe as it winds and turns in a Easterly and North-
westerly direction to :land of Krupski approximately 300 feet; thence
along land of Krupski two (2) courses and distances as follows: (1)
North 80" 52 ' 40" East 88 feet thence; (2) North 770 41 ' 20" East
60. 57 feet; thence south 120 05 ' 10" East along other, larid of Hansen
1193. 94 feet to the point or place of Beginning.
A lengthly discussion was held on this proposed change of zone.
On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby confirms
their original recommendation with the following additional rec-
ommendations on the above described proposed change of zone:
It is recommended that this proposed project meet all of the
requirements of the proposed new amendments to the Zoning Ordinance,
including the density requirements.
It is also recommended that the meadow island be left in a
natural state and we are including in this recommendation a sketch
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which appears reasonable to the Planning Board. showing finger piers
on the east side of the island and a minimum 50 ft. roadway and 100
ft. turn-around:
We strongly recommend the proposed location of the gas dock
be changed to either the north or south extremity of the meadow
island.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: -Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor, Coyle.
The Planning Board was presented with copy of letter which
William Wickham, Esq. a/c Richard Babcock and Fred Rimler, sent
to Supervisor Martocchia in regard to the drainage on the lower
end of Babcock ' s property, adjoining the .proposed !'West Hill Road"
in the proposed subdivision "Calves Neck" , owned by George Ahlers.
This is a matter which must be resolved between the two property
owners. The Chairman dictated a letter to be sent to George Ahlers
advising him to resolve the matter with Mr. Babcock and his attorney,
copies to be sent to all concerned.
The Planning Board was presented with final maps for the
proposed minor subdivision of John H. , & Margaret H. Guest,
Fishers Island, New York. Formal application and fee have
been received. p
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant final
approval to the proposed minor subdivision map of John H.& Margaret
H. Guest, Fishers Island, New York.
The Chairman signed the maps.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor, Coyle.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the original
petition of Gus Schad, 5 Arista Drive, Dix Hills, New York, relative
to change of zone from "A" Residential and Agficultural District to
"M" Multiple Residence District on PARCEL A, and from "A" Residentilal
and Agricultural -District to "B-2" Business District on PARCEL B on
on certain real property, together with the instructions to prepare
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an official report defining the conditions contained therein.
This property is situated at Greenport, in the Town of Southold,
County of Suffolk and State of New York, and more particularly
bounded and described as follows:
PARCEL A - BEGINNING at a point on the northerly side of North
Road where it is intersected with the division of land of Gus Schad
and the southwesterly corner of land now or formerly of Ripley;
running thence along the northerly side of North Road South 660 01 '
20" West 525. 00 feet to a point; thence running the following five
courses and distances along other land of Gus Schad as follows: (1)
North 220 21 ' 30" West, 488. 29 feet; (2) North 11041 ' 20" East,
771. 04 feet; (3) North 240 34' 30" West, 1304. 59 feet; (4) North
370 54' 10" East, 465.41 feet; thence (5) North 300 10' 40" West,
600. 00 feet to the ordinarly high water line of the Long Island
Sound; thence along Long Island Sound, North 310 15 ' 10" East, 400.
00 feet to lands now or formerly of King; thence running the following
fifteen (15) courses and distances partly along lands now or formerly
of King and partly along lands now or formerly of Ripley: (1) South
300 10' 40" East, 910. 00 feet; (2) South 310 03 ' 40" East, 300. 01
feet; (3) South 280 19' 30" East, 89. 61ffEeet; (4) South 130 46 ' 30"
East, 33. 68 feet; , (5) 270 56 ' 50" West, 65.47 feet; (6) South 0° 19'
40" East, 179. 94 feet; (7) South 10 34' 00" East, 100. 93 feet; (11)
South 00 39' 30" East, 100. 15 feet; (12) South lc' 45 ' 00" East,
434. 17 feet; (13) South 70 02 ' 00" East, 40. 19 feet; (14) South 760
49' 10" West, 155. 11 feet; (15) South 240 34' 30" East, 805. 00 feet
to the northerly side of North Road and the point or place of
BEGINNING. Containing an area of 38. 282 acres.
PARCEL B - BEGINNING at a point on the northerly side of North
Road on the division line between the southwesterly corner of parcel
herein cescribed and the southeasterly corner of land now or form-
erly of Time Structures, In:c. ; running thence North 410 39' 10" West
along lands now or formerly of Time Structures, Inc. , 579. 18 feet
to a point; thence along land of Gus Schad, the following two (2)
courses and distances: (1) North 660 36 ' 40" East, 765. 20 feet;
thence (2) North 650 47 ' 10" East, 330.84 feet to lands of Schofield
and McIntosh; thence south 190 16 ' 00" East along lands of Schofield
and McIntosh 550. 14 feet to the northerly side of North Road; thence
along the northerly side of North Road the following two courses and
distances: (1) South 650 23 ' 50" West, 285. 49 feet to a point; thence
(2) South 660 36 ' 40" West, 589. 52 feet to the point or place of
BEGINNING. Containing an area of 12.436 acres.
A lengthly discussion was had on this proposed change of zone.
On motion by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board favorably
recommend to the Southold Town Board the change from "A" Residential
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and Agricultural District to "M" Multiple Residence on PARCEL A,
and from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B-2"
Business District on PARCEL B on the above described proposed
change of zone.
It is the opinion of the Planning Board that this is a very
comprehensive plan, well worked out.
There has been a need for additional apartment dwellings in
this area of the Town for quite some time, this project will fulfill
the urgent need. The light business area will be needed to round out
this development and for the surrounding residential area. Various
forms of recreation such as golf, boating, and fishing will be cont-
ained in the development for the residents use.
The Planning Board and the developer have been working on
this plan for some 8 months and it is our feeling that with the
low density requirements of the proposed new amendments to the
Zoning Ordinance, which the developer will have to meet, this
development will be outstandingly beneficial to the Town of
Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: -Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor, Coyle.
In reference to the text of the application and the scenic
easement contract pertaining to the above proposed change of zone,
the Planning Board made the following . suggestions:
Petition, page 2, # 3. , lst paragraph - balanced mix, The
Board suggests that a different phrase or word could be substituted
to define the ratio of the one and two bedroom units more clearly.
Grant of Scenic Easement, Exhibit 3, page 2, ## 2 (a) - Area
of land necessary for operation of sewerage plant should be stated,
i. e. area of land necessary for operation of sewerage plant not to
exceed X number of acres, or it could be described on a percentage
basis.
Grant of Scenic Easement, Exhibit 3, page 3, # 5. - It should
be clearly stated that this condition shall cover only such part of
the property that the condemnation or eminent domain proceedings
cover.
A list of the above suggestions to be sent to Richard Lark,
Attorney representing Gus Schad.
"Leeward Acres" was briefly discussed, the Chairman stated that
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!'Leeward Acres" was briefly discussed, the Chairman stated that
Mr. Tasker feels that subdivisions which have preliminary approval,
and have gone to the Health Dept. and have been referred to the
Review Board of Appeals, and have received a favorable determination,
should be granted an extension by the Planning Board.
The Planning Board discussed the proceedings which they will
follow to compile a list of approved subdivisions to be placed in
the amendments to the new zoning ordinance. The County is only
interested in those subdivisions which have 20 or more unsold lots.
The Planning Board must set their policy for review. There will be
3 classifications of subdivisions which have to be reviewed: 1. The
list in the back of the. present Zoning Ordinance must be checked out.
The subdivisions which are all sold out must be dropped from this
list. 2. The subdivisions from 1957 to Jan. 1, 1970. 3'. The
subdivisions from Jan. 1, 1970 to the present. It was suggested
that members of the Planning Board take turns reviewing all of
these subdivisions. After all subdivisions are reviewed and the
number of unsold lots in each are determined, firm rules for
reviewing them will be set up.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town
Planning Board be held at 7: 30 P.M. , Wednesday, .January 6, 1970,
at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor, Coyle.
The meetceng was adjourned at 10: 00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Betty Ne ille, Secretary
Southold Town Planning Board
ohn Wickham, Chairman