HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-04/28/1959 T Southold Town Planning Board
S O UTH O LD, L. 1., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Harold R. Reeve
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
I . U TES
Southold Town Planning Board
.April 28, 1959
A'-regular meeting-of- the Southold- Town' Planning-
Board-was held Tuesdayl -April 28, 1959; 7930-P.M:, at -
the Town Clerks Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were- present: - Messrs: John Wickham$ Chairman
Harold R. Reeve, henry Moisal Alfred Grebe, and Archibald
Young.
Also-present: Mr. Howard Me Terry, Building
Inspector..
Mr. Irving L. .Price . Jr., appeared before -the Planning
Board-relative to application-dated April-7 - 1959- of Costas
Stars, Main Road, East Marion, for an- Open bevelopment Area
of property described- as acreage- at Sound, being-developed
for sale of lotsl 'bounded north by Long Island Sound, east
by-lands of Schroeder, south by Maih Road• (Route- 25) and
Vest by lands of Dzenkoski Brown, Stamos, - Moack, and -
others'. - Map- appearing in- the file is by Otto W. Van Tuyl
and Son, Proposed-layout- of land of Costas Stars at East
Mation, N.Y., dated March 13, 1959•
"' 'Mr* Price - spoke for Mr. Stars and answered questions--
posed- by the- Board. -The Planning-Board-does not feel that
it -would--be practical--to-have a road the length -and width
requested by the applicant. Members of the Board viewed
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the- property -and 'it 3s "felt that 'the 'access ' should--be. 50
feet. Thee-present means of access "are "Aquaview Avenue Arid
Cedar" Drive," which are-" Town roads. - ,Mr Stars cafe' forward
and ®xplained certain points on the map and answered quest-
ions.
After much consideration it"vas' the determination"of
the "Boards on motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Reeve and
carried to
OLVE "that'the 'Planning Board recommend to -the Town
Board that r1ght of access be.. approved by way of Aquaview
Avenue "and Cedar -Drive to lots as fat down as the " one marked
He11DWA on map. of Otto W. Van"Tuyl" "&"Son' "Proposed layout
of"land of Costaw Stars at East Marion, New York dated March
13 s 1959•
It was further suggested" to the owner that 'a strip 15
feet-vide- on 'the north and "east of,Lot No: li and along
the east side of Lots' 2 through . be reserved
in "order to make 50'feet available for future public" road.
It "was--fwrther suggested that below"lots No 13L and 50 that
this- projected public road"be" on" one side or the other of
the property, rather than. down the middle..
. .". " Mr. ]FF& h Reed-came before - the Planning "Board for an
inforfal discussion. Mr. Reed presented a preliminary plan
of his property -at Cedar Beach and asked several questions
re size of -several lots: "The Board suggested several -changes
in the lot sizes and advised his overall- layout was 'quite'
satisfactory. �" Mr: Reed .intends to revise "the snap and present
it to .the Planning Board in the future for approval.
Mr. Reeve and Mr. Young submitted their individual
reports- on their recent review of the proposed trailer park
at Westphalia Road, Mattituek, New York$ &rid the feasibility
of that -particular location. Both &*. Reeve acid Mr. Young
ara oppposed to 'the'"proposed "location. Since a time Mr `
Sehelii� who proposed- the -trailer park, appeared before the
Planning" Board on April 7, 11959, there have- been 37 letters
of protest from property owners and residents in the neigh
boyhood: On motion of Mr. Moisafseconded by Mr. Grebe and
car-ried, it was
RESOLVED that a letter should`"be forwarded to Mr Roy
Schelin- advising that the- proposed- location of a trailer park
on Westphalia. Road, .Mattituck, does not" meetit with the--approval
of the Planning Board however they feel" that" a tr iler park
is greatly needed in Southold .Tovn- and would"be wit ling to
consider any proposal he may have for a more suitable location.
A -letter." was. also to -be forwarded to Mr. -Kenneth"G.-- Br own,
President of the Westphalia-Civic "Assoeiation Mattituck, ad-
vising of the disapproval and expressing the thanks of the
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Planning Board -for --the" Civic Aszociation_ts interest in the
matter"and -reques tins- that_ the members, of. ,the Association
be nottfied .of the Planning .Boardis action.
A letter vas received and read, to 'the members"of thee•
Planning -Board' from Mr: Harold R: Reeve Sr. , tending. his
g arn�. Board' and . .
resignation from the Southold Town .P1
Secretary of same to-take.-effect May l; 1959 Mr.: Reeve
expressed in his letter his pleasure .of be associated
with the":Planning Board A'nd' Southold `Town Board for the
past- three years p and gave his reasons- for resigning.
It- was'.the decision-of all- the members of the Board,
with the exception of Mr.. Reeve to table the resignation.
At this point (8i30' P.M.
. theregular� meeting of
the Southold Town. Plannin9-BoaVd recessed and' a Joint meeting
of the "Southold "Town.Board, Southold Town- Board of" Appeala�
and Southold Town Planning Board.was called to order.
The -regular' meeting. of the Southold Town Planning. Board
was resumed at 11:10 P.M.
._There" was considerable •discussion relative •to .lobbsteri;ng
out' of Fishers Islands and- Mr: Klipp who was present at this
point, advi"sed that: lie- would speak -to Mr Taske- r• ' Towa .Attorney, .
to-determine what the--laV:1s:and what can be -done" to prevent
Connecticut boats .from operating out of .Fishers Island or in
New.York•.State waters.
The minutes" -of--the meeting of--April 7. . .1959 .more approved
as submitted on motion of Mr. Grebe, secon�ed by Mr.'=Young
and carried.
The. proposed."letter to- the junk yards and those ndiv"tduals
whose property aay.le;'considered as yank=yardgjwas reviewed.
and':approved -and Secretary.vas instructed to prepare and
forward,::same., _
.A. communication was received-from-Walter- Uhl Vice
President of Woodhollow'Propertiest . Inc.;" atating, that- our
letter of Apr31 15, Z959 regarding certain matters. in- cony-
nection 'with property owned- by .Woodhol3.ow at Orient Point-
B:I:q New York was :received'. Mr:""Uhl stated• that the .contents
have 'been noteCindhave-been turned over to their attorney
for consideration and reply.
The4pe'tition of Genevieve Naugles, Mattituck, New .York.)
for a'change of Zone-from. «A". Residential-Agricultural; to
8" " Rmniness distriet- was- again brought- up for discussion.
Mrs Reeve and Nr: Young reported' that ""they visited tho;..Zito-
And would recommend _"the change-of zone`for- the establishment
of a fishing station: : On motion of Mr. - Moisa, 's®conded by
Mr. Grebe and carried it was
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RESOLVED, "that the 'Planhing Board recommend to_ the
Town: Board that. the-.change- from "An to "Bit be made on
property"iriclud"ed in -the legal'description:-by Otto-W. Van
Tuyl•* son' ..dated. January 31:,. 1949 snd mended "Mreh- 12,
1959,;"and_�eserbed -and"-bounded as follows: - Beginning :at
a*point on the northerly ltrie -of Naugles Drive, 1638. 'feet,
more -or less; "easterly_ aalong said northerly line -from Luther's
Road,- said Point- of- bi&*ing being the southeasterly corner
of land of DeWulf; :from said point..of beginning running
northerly along said land of-Dellulf`, 431 feet, more or--less,
to- the southerly line of a' 30'0 right of'way; thence easterly
along said southerly line of- said 30" right of way$ '60 feet]
more or'. less'; thence northerly across ' sad 301 right- 'of -way
and "along land of 'CaValiere and Pardon-"310. feet, mor,® or
less to Mattituck Inlet'; • therice' southeasterly along said' '
Matt tuck -Inlet- - 650 feet, more or Tessa to land,- of Chambers;
thence southwesterly along said land of Chambers 36o feet,
more or -less� �to said northerly line- of Naugles Drive; thence-
westerly along said northerly line 'of Naugles Drive, 107 feet,
more or less- to the point of beginning.- Containing. 4 acres,
more or less;
The"Planning Board has visited this property and feel
that this- is a suitable location for a fishing's*tation: : The
property faces .on "Federal waters which has- recently been
improved -by goverhmeint- agencies. It' is also near by- to a
ia O'C" Industrl. District of similar-use.-_ Farther$ the Plan-
ning" Board feels that some business development of our water-
front. is in the best interest of the Town of .Southold.
There' was- a brief discussion- relative to the matter of
the property of George y. Young at Orient.
The'"1958- Progress Report :of' the 'Suffolk County Planning
Board was received and ordered filed.
A''communication'was received from .the Suffolk County
Planning Board j R. .,M. Kammerer, Director of-Planning3 in reply
to-the "Planning Board 1 s 'letter -of ' April. -13, 1959 relative to
the' Fishers.'Island Civie Association concerning 'their park
district and in .which the- Southold Town-Planning Board'
suggestea- the possibilitycC the County" of Suffolk"'looking .
into the- situation. Mr.- Kamerer' advised that the matter
will- be brought up, at' the 'next Suffolk county Planning Board
meeting on April 30, 1959.
The' matter of: the petition- of John and Alexandra Drossos
was again-brought .before the- Planning Board for an official
report defining- the conditions described in" the-petition -and
deterilination of the area so affected- by the recommendation
of the Board: 'On motion of. Mr: Moisat seconded by Mr. Young
and unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board recommend to the
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Town Board -the: change--from " "At' 'Residential- Agricultural
to" 'B" Business "district, to be-made-'on the following
described property:. '- 'All"that--"certain" tract or- parcel of
land-situate near•Greenportf in the Town- of Southold,
County of Suffolk,' and State- of New York; and more" par-
ticularly'"bounded and-described as-follows: "-Beginning
at-the intersection ®f-the northwesterly line-of Main
South- Road- with'' the 0outhuesterly line of Chapel-:Lano and
running thence -'southwesterly along- the northwesterlyg-line
of Nia n$outh"Road`-about"36o0 feet "to land- of L. I. R. R.
Company'; thence- southwesterly`along land- `of.L. - I. R." R.
Company about 350 feet to -'a'a point 250-feet northwesterly
from the northwesterly."lane of Main. South""Road l measured
at right angles thereto;-- thence northeasterly poallel to
the northwesterly line--of Main" South Road about -3900 feet
to` the" southwesterly line" of "Chapel .Lane; thence south--
easterly along the southwesterly- line"-of"Chapel-.Lane 250
feet, or more,- to- the""point""of beginning.' The property
owners-having been contacted and apprdv a of the change
from "A" to "B114,
The"'Planning Board feels this property is more,.- suited
for business purposes than for residential. purposes there
being -non=conforming business and other enterprise"s-within
the boundaries of this.-property at the present time..
The next -meeting. :of"the Southold Town Planning Board
will. be., held at- 7830 P.M., Monday May lla 1959-at the
T&wn Clerks Office-- Main Road, Southold, New York.
21jere -vas" 'a briefdiscussion held relative-to -the matter
of-"trailer -parks in Southold Town -and it was the feeling- of
many m6mbers of" the-'Board that there should be a committee
appointed to look into same.
With reference to. the joint 'meeting between the: Tom
Board,, :Board `of Appeals`:arid`Planning" Board. the Southold
Town Planning Board determined that they should go on
feeord'.by the following
-RESOLUTIONi that the Planning 'Board will-be unwilling
to recommend anrq" extension of business"-zones on-the Middle
Road until such time as- -the' State'_-County and Town agree-
oft- 'type" "of road there shall be and where'it' is -to be .
located. _ Farther' the: Planning Board is -of the 'opinion that
the- -best interests" of: the Town of Southold would be served
by--having this a high speed road with the least amount of
business.
The Planning-"'Board;is agreed that- they will notehold
up more than three 'to: sic months the' determination of the
triangle in west Mattitnck and. adjacent property.
A copy 'of the" above resolution 'was-forwarded to the
Southold Town Board and Southold Town Board of .Appeals.
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Along--this same line- (rebuilding of Middle Road)-' 'a
communication was forwoMed- to Mr Milton E. Gou1� District
Engineer; New York- State' Department of- Public' 'Works q Babylonp
New York' stating that it has' come to the attention of- the
Southold Town Planning Board that'the State Highway Depart
bent may take -over and rebuild our present Middle- Road.
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i.e. County Route 27A. The Planning ' Board feels that there
is an Urgent need for' a'-high 'speed limited access Last West
highway and could probably be done economically in- the very
near'future. ' Mr' Goul' was" advised that 'the Planning" Board
is currently w•lthholding"approval of any petitions 'fo r' a
change 'of zone along this highway pending more information
on long range plans.
A- copy of--the above- letter-'was forwarded to the ' Southold
Town Board!"' Suffolk County Planning Board 9 -and the Suffolk
County Board of 'Supervisorso- With'the' Board 'Of Supervisors
letter a- covering 'letter was included stating" that in this
connection the Southold To—mn "Planning Board' is 'not certain
that it is in the best interests' of the Town to have the
State take over thishighway9' but feel that whether "the-
State or Suffolk 'County rebuild"and -relocate highwayl' the
long-range interests of our- Town dictate .careful 'planning
and consideration in order that we may both assure our Town
of rapid ' transportation'as well as aaintaining the natural
beauty of our landscape..
Meeting adjourned at 12:10 A.Me
Respectfully submitted)
Judith T. Boken
Secretary