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SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
I�a'sdldiR�ee�"e:
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
M I N U T E S
Southold Town Planning Board
June 8, 1959
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was
held Monday, June 8, 1959, 7:30 P.M. , at the Town Clerk' s Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. John Wickham, Chairman, Henry
Moisa, Alfred Grebe, and Archibald Young.
Also present: Mr. Howard M. Terry, Building Inspector,
and Mr. Otto Van Tuyl, Consulting Engineer.
Mr. Robert Villa from the Suffolk County Health Department
spoke to the Planning Board on matters of development of marsh
and filled meadow land, touching on the type of sewage disposal
field, dewatering, effect of detergents on the soil and require-
ments for subdivisions.
Mr. Villa stated that the requirements of the Suffolk
County Health Department for lot sizes in a subdivision is 1/2
acre, or 21,780 sq. it. , unless there is public water and sewer.
They would consider 1/2 the width of the road abutting the prop-
erty and the balance would be made up within the bounds of the
lot. The F.H.A. and the V.A. require 20,000 sq. ft. lot size.
With reference to putting in a sewage system, Mr. TIlla
stated the County requires two lots adjoining each other must
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be done at the same time in order that there may be created a
buffer district.
Mr. Villa described bog as anything where ground water
exists before good suitable material is found.
The Board discussed with Mr. Villa the particular problems
in Southold Totem, and the Hilton :Epp and Ralph Reed property were
discussed in particular. Mr. Grebe brought up for discussion
problems that exist on Fishers Island.
Mr. Villa left several bulletins with the Planning Board
for their information and stated additional copies may be
obtained upon request. It was. decided a letter should be
forwarded to the County Health Department for additional copies.
They are as follows:
Dated May 87 1959 Re: Development of marsh and meadow
lands from Philip J. Rafle, IvD, Commissioner of Health,
BY H. W. Davids, P.E. Director of Enviromental Sanita-
tion.
Dated .April 14, 1959, Memorandum from Dr. Rafle to Mr.
Davids under subject of Proposed Realty Subdivisions in
Marsh-Bog Low land areas.
Dated April 11+1 1959 entitled Engineering Report on Status
of Private Sewage Disposal Systems in Low Land Areas in
Suffolk County.
These aforementioned bulletins should be used in conjunction
with the minutes of this date. The bulletins elaborate fully upon
Mr. Villa's discussion with the Planning Bard.
After Mr. Villa had left the meeting, on motion of Mr. Grebe,
seconded by Mr. Moisa and carried, it was
RESOLVED that a letter be forwarded to the Suffolk County
Health Department, H. W. Davids, P.E., Director of Enviromental
Sanitation_ , expressing the sincere appreciation of the Planning
Board for making it possible for Mr. Robert Villa to be present
at this meeting to discuss the particular problems involved in
water supply, sewage disposal, etc. on filled land. Mr. Villa
rendered very helpful and constructive assistance which will aid
the Planning Board in dealing with many of its problems at hand.
It was further RESOLVED by Mr. Moisa, and seconded by Mr.
Young that a letter be forwarded to the Southold Toi.m Board of
Appeals calling their attention to the requirements of the
Suffolk County Department of Health as outlined in -the bulletins
provided by Mr. Villa and copies of which were forwarded to the
Board of Appeals for their files. In the future the Planning
-Board is going to be much more careful in their recommendations
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for approval of undersized lots for the reasons noted in the
bulletins.
The Planning Board held considerable discussion on the matter
of the proposed subdivision to be known as Hilton Heights at Bay-
view, Southold. On motion of Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe and
carried, it was
RESOLVED, that preliminary approval be granted Hilton Epp,
for the subdivision entitled Hilton Heights at Bayview, Southold,
map of Otto Van Tuyl & Son, Greenport, dated June 1, 1959.
The minutes of the May 26 1959 meeting, on motion of Mr.
Grebe, seconded by Mr. Young and carried, were approved as read.
A letter from Robert Tasker, Towh Attorney, rendering an
opinion on the matter of approval of access, Section 21 Orient-
By- The-Sea, was read. Mrs, Tasker indicated that according to
the Recommended Rules and Regulations for the subdivision of
land of the Town of Southold, the Plaming Board is not authorized
to disapprove an application for the subdivision of land upon the
grounds that it does not contain provisions for access to water.
After considerable discussion relative to -the aforementioned
letter of Mr. Tasker, it was RESOLVED by Mr. Grebe, seconded by
Kr. Young and carried that a letter should be forwarded to Mr:
Tasker requesting his presence at the next meeting of the Southold ,
Town Kanning Board, to be held Tuesday, June 23 , 1959, to discuss
the Rules and Regulations under which the Planning Board is operat-
ing, and any other matters he may.feel should be taken up with the
Planning Board relative to its operation.
The Planning Board received notification from the Southold
Totten Board indicating that the application of Edward Nidds for
the establishment of an Open Development Area was granted under
date of May 279 1959; The application of John and Alexandra
Drossos for a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
to 'IB" Business District, hearing held May 26, 1959, was granted
effective as of June 18, 1959; the application of Genevieve
Naugles for a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
to "B" Business District, hearing held May 26, 1959, was granted
effective as of June 18, 1959•
After considerable discussion relative to subdivisions and
highway specifications with relation to the requirements of the
Highway Department, on motion of Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Young
and carried, it was
RESOLVED that a letter be forwarded to the Southold Tom
Board advising of receipt of the letter from Mr. Tasker, Town
Attorney and requesting the Town Board 's consideration and the
possiblily of specifically authorizing the Planning Board to
enforce the highway specifications as a condition of approval
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judgment of the
of a subdivision, if.---in the/Planning Board feels it would be
in the best interests of the Town of Southold. Further, t1m
Planning Board feels the Recommended Rules and Regulations for
the Subdivision of Land should be amended to require larger lot
sizes in subdivisions where there is no public water or sewer
facilities, in view of the new requirements of 1/2 acre per lot
of the Suffolk County Department of Health, and the requirement
of 20,000 sq. ft. per lot by the F.H.A. and V.A.
T}a Chairman requested Mr. Howard Terry, Building Inspector,
to be present at the Town Board 's meeting on June 16th, when this
letter is read in order that he may discuss the matter with the
Town Board.
Meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Judith T. Boken
Secretary
John Wickham, Chairman