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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-08/26/1959-PH o��FFo��co z T Southold Town Planning Board S O UTH O LD, L. I., N. Y. PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wickham, Chairman kdaxe'(J R.—R.63vxe Henry Moisa Alfred Grebe Archibald Young William Unkelbach MINUTES, P U B L I C H E A R I N G IN THE MATTER Or' THE ADOPTION Or! THE PROPOSED RULES AMID REGULATIONS r'OR THE SUBDIVISION O-`' LAND August 26, 1959 A public hearing was held in the matter of the adoption of the proposed Rules and Regulations for the Subdivision of Land in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County' New York' 8:30 P.M., Wednesday, August 262 1959, at the Town Clerkfs Office' Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs. Archibald Young, Acting dhairman, Henry Ivloisa,, Alfred Grebe, and William Unkelbach. Mr. John Wickham appeared after the hearing had been opened. Also present: Messrs. Hoi,:ard M. Terry, Building Inspec- tor and Robert W. Taske r, Town Attorney. Mr. Young, ActingChairm.an opened the hearing by reading legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting to its publica- tion in the official newspaper. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone here who wishes to speak for this application? DANIEL SMITH, Southold, New York: Why do we need additional restrictions, what is the reason? What purpose do you have in mind? That is the only thing that bothers me about it. I was on the first citizens committee formed here in Southold to talk Public Hearing - Southold Town Pjanning Board -2=� August 26.7 1959 about Zoning. If we have more restrictions, before long you will 'be making it an expensive operation and we will need h"igh ' legal counsel before being able to do anything. Are we' tying "ourselves down too much' CHAIPIVMs ' I think the rest" of theBoard' will agree that a good many of the changes we' made, in' the regulations were-. restric- tions or .laws .or regulations •based upon experiences .of other Tokens having had zoning .and we "had copies' from other towns " .' " We •were guided by" different things we:. f.ound we might "tun into trouble with. We .have :tried not, to make too many ;mistakes and have gone by mistakes others have made. In going over these Rules '.and Regulations in another five years..you""may see a lot of things.-, that should be :changed .and tightened up then.. MR. SMITH: At the . time ;Zoning was first 'discussed and when the Zoning -Board was appointed, everyone was to we would ..not . need a complicated Ordinance, Just a simple Ordinance.. . However that is .not what we got.: One thing leads .to another® We are tying ourselves up. We- are in the building and, real estate business, and especially 'this summer ,we have,-had more .and more .people inquir- ing for places to retire. . They say, "We "love Long Island$ but. we are unable to live here because. of-the price of property and good land') and taxes-" and, those People .,have 'gone Upstate ' to live instead of here. -. " I can .see "yo•u. want to get this so that we would get a good "elass , of. people he.re. .. " CHAIRMAAT- I do not think 'we are ,going to make things so tough we are going •,to drive people away. . MR a UNKELBACH. . You will find that a code of this type is the sort that will help. It. will keep -,the "fly-by-nights" out. MR. SMITH: Even a building' code will not". stop that. They wil do a shoddy job but abide by the building. c"ode. They even . ., build for r, .H.A® The problem is getting the. cost of our property so high wepwill not get "the., type :of people we like, . peopl:e who are figuring 'on retiring. The cost of. a subdivision, buy the time everything is taken care of; "it ,runs the cost up` terrifically and if there. .are going ,to be too many of the additional restric- tions put on I �do not know what the people .will do. MR.HOWARD TERRY: every year the "Toim Board -gets 'complaints from• "developnents that have -private, roads. that are impassable, the people are snowed in and cannot ,get "in ,by by snow. plows', the roads were ,a11 broken upm There was some 'talk. of specifying in the Rules and Regulations ally=weather roads Public Hearing' -. Southold Towne Planning Board -3= August '267 `1959 MR. ' TASKER: I thought, of this ,as having to do Frith 'fore- thought, because if you do not impose the restrictions and, reg- ulations, .at the time one of ' the -subdivisions are being developed it-' means these ,property owners will be given, a' false illusion. You are deluding them into the thought that this is all there is going to be After the roads break down,-, the cost is higher to fix them. than. it would have been if ,it were done right in the beginning., Actually it. is for' ,-the protection of the .developero' . MR SMITHi I s.ee,' that 'point. MR. TASK: . The Planning Board has experienced many. situations where the area,' has been developed .poorly and after it is developed. and everything is not right, then, they .come . to the Planning Board. and, blame the Planning Board. CHAIRMAN: Some are requirements of the -State. - Somethings are dictated to us by the County and `State. MR . . SMITH: As to the requirements' of .roads, Have private roads -that have 'to ,be made a. certain. way and have Town roads, a certain. way. Would it be' just.'as. well if you are going to require the roads be built -that way, that 'you. require that new roads -Vould have to -be turned over to the .To-vm2 CHAIRMAN: We are only laying do`,m the, specifications that the Highway Department .will demand. They are set up as a guide. Those area specifications that .will have, to. be ' me.t if. they do have the 'roads, dedicated® We are not telling the .subdivider to 'put these roads in, he has -to in...order to have. them taken.. over by ,the,' Town.:. . MRO' TERRY: We have had an engineer from the Health Depart- , went here who explained the latest rules and. regulations from the County before this was 'taken up: and put on paper. (Discussion of water supply and :sewage disposal was, held.) MR. JOHN WICM4.M: The highway 'specifications which we are using were effective June lst, -1956 and were put into effect by the loi.m Board.- Our original rules ,,and regulations were amended first on April 81 1958, and' had' been effective July 1 , 1955® I have to_ admit a slight hardship to owners of developments to re- quire that highways be oiled and surfaced, but we have tried at every step to be reasonable and to take steps that we',felt very definitely constructive, and we are not too anxious to add any more restrictions than there are. MR. SMITH: You can heat d6wn restrictions on.' land but are Public Hearing Southold Town Planning Board August 26, 1959 getting these so high the type of peopleYwould like here, retired prople, won't want to come® The tax costs along with building costs are getting so high no one can afford to build out here® (There was discussion held relative to the definition of sub- dlvision9 filing maps, and access roads. ) CHA,IRMA_Y: Is there anyone else present who wishes to speak? If there is no one else present who wishes to speak on this matter of the proposed. Rules and Regulations for the Subdivision of Land, 'the hearing is closed. Hearing closed at 104000 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Judith T. Boken Secretary .Archibald Young, 4cting Chairman