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Southold Town Planning Board
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p ® SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry,Moisa
Alfred Grebe
William Unkelbach
M I N U:T' E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN'PLANNING BOARD
October 3, 1967
A regular meeting of: the Southold Town' Planning Board
was held at 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, October 3, 1967., at the
Town' Office, Main Road,- Southold, .New York.
.There were present: Messrs: John :Wickham, Chairman;
Henry'Moisa, William Unkelbach, Frank"Coyle, Alfred Grebe.
- Also present: Otto W.- Van Tuyl, Consultant; Lawrence
Tuthill, Construction' Engineer.
Lefferts P. Edson,- Esq. appeared before. the Board in
regard. to the waiving of -the performance bond for' Peconic
Homes, Section II, since the road has been completed. The
chairman advised that this would ,need -the 'approval of: the
Town Board in view ofthe fact the amount of the bond had
been :set and accepted.by the Town Board. Mr. Edson was advised
that when the Planning Board has: the letters of approval of the
roads from, Lawrtnce Tuthill, Construction' Engineer, and
Raymond Dead, Highway- Superintendent, and these are accepted
the' Vown Board, themaps could be signed.
Southold Town Planning Board -2- October 3, 1967
On motion by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED the' Chairman of the Southold Town Planning Board
be authorized to sign the final subdivision maps of Peconic -
Homes, Section 11, located at- Peconic, New York, owned and
developed by Henry J. Smith, when the letters of approval of the
roads from.Lawrence Tuthill, and Raymond Dean are in the files'
of the Planning Board, and when said approvals are accepted by
the Southold Town Board.
Vote of the BoardE- Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Unkelbach, Mr., Coyle, Mr. Grebe.
Mr. 'George Barzac, Jr. , appeared before the Planning Board
with a sketch plan for a subdivision located on the east side
Boisseau' Avenue, Southold, New York. The area involved in this
plan is' approximately 12 acres. The map showed an area of the
property not included in the subdivision plan. Mr. Barzac felt
this was not suitable for residence since it was adjoining
Cassidy property, however if the` Planning Board felt this should
be included it could be done. The sketch plan showed 18- lots.
The Planning Board does not like to see an oversize lot left ,
over because at some future date someone might want to divide
the property into two lots and there would be a problem of
access to the second lot. it was suggested that- the park area
be enlarged so that' an oversized lot is not left'. Mr. Van
Tuyl showed and overall plan of the adjoining properties, indicating
aceess to Sawicki's property and Moffat's property.
Mr. Barzac was advised that he should file a preliminary
application for the property under question. Mr. Barzac stated
he would like to Bart building a speculation house on one of
the lots facing Boisseau Avenue. The Board advised that nothing
should be constructed until more definit lot lines are
established.
The Southold town Planning Board received from the
Southold Town Board the original petition of Helmut Hass of
North Road, Greenport, New York, relative to a change of
zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B"
Business District on certain property situated in Peconic,
New York, with the instructions to prepare and official
report and define the conditions described therein.
Southold Town Planning Board -3- October 3,, 1967
This property is described as follows:
All that certain peice or parcel. of land situated at
Peconic. in the Town of Southold, Suffolk- County, New York
and more particularly bounded and described as- follows:
BEGINNING at a point on the southerly line of' Middle
Road, .as -widened, at the northeasterly corner of land of the 3rxx�
party of the first part, said point' of beginning being about
1400 feet easterly along said southerly line from'Carroll Avenue;
from said point of beginning running along land of Charles
Hubbard and along land of Suffolk County, S. 230, 531 30" E.-
437.10 feet; thence along land of the party of the first part,
two courses as follows: ,(1) S. 5.80 30' 30" W.-- 100.29 feet; thence
(2) N. 23° 53 ' 30" W.- 439..53 feet to said southerly line of
Middle. Road (as widened) ; thence northeasterly along said south-
erly,- line on a curve to the left, having a radius of 5789.58
feet, a distance of 100. 0' feet to the point- of beginning, containing
1. 00, acre.
The Board held a lenghty discussion on the property in
question. It. was felt this would be spot zoning;and the fact-'that
property adjoins Long Island Railroad property, characterized
as Industrial property, should not be andetermining .factor in
view of the fact- the Long Island Railroad is a special franchise._
The Beard looked at the maps showing what the County was taken
for the widening of. County Road 27.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded.by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the' Southold. Town Planning Board does not
favorably recommend .to the Southold Town Board the change of
zone from "A" Residential and -Agricultural-District-to "B"
Business District on the above described property.
The' Planning Board is not .willing to recommend a business
zone on, the south side of County Road #27, even under the
circumstances described in .the- petition. it is the' Planning
Board' s feeling that County 'Road 27 should be maintained as
a high-speed arterial without business build-up except- in
areas such as Mattituck, Southold, and in the immediate vicinity
of Peconic Lane, Peconic. - As a matter- of fact, Mr. Clarke,
who lives on the north side of County Road #27, about where this
property is located, presented a request for a business zone some
time ago and we refused to recommend that. Regardless of the spot
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zoning question, if a small business. zone is established in this
vicinity, we can logically expect a tremendous expanded business
area adjacent to this within two or three years.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, .
Mr. •Unkelbach, Mr. Grebe.
Mr.- Coyle abstained from voting.
The Southold' Town' Planning'Board received from the Town
Board the original petition of John Geier, North Road, Greenport, .
New ' York, relative to a change., of zone from- '.'A" Residential and
Agricultural District- to "B" Business District, on certain
property situated at''Greenport, New York, with the instructions
. to prepare an official report defining the conditions described
therein.
This property. is described as follows:
All that .certain tract, piece, or parcel of land
situated at Greenport, Town of Southold, County of
Suffolk, State of Net York, and more particularly bounded
and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a point- on the southerly side of Middle
Road (C.R... 27) North Road, where the same is intersected by
the westerly, side of land' now or formerly of Village of Green-
port, which point is distant 350.68 feet- westerly from the.
corner formed by the intersection of the southerly side- of said
Middle Road with. the westerly. side of Moore' s Lane, and
from said point of' beginning., running thence along said land
south 40 01' 10" east, 1106.60 feet; running thence still along
said land south 840 53 ' 30" west, 474..24 feet; running thence '
still along said land north 40 06 ' 1.0" west- 830.50 feet. to the
southerly side of- said Middle Road ; running thence along the
southerly side of said Middle Road north 550 01' 10" east, 554.24
feet- to the point or place of bdginning.
The Board briefly discussed this application.
� aouthold Town' Planning Board . -5- October 3, 1967
On motion by'Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board does not
favorably recommend to the Southold Town Board the change of
zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B"
Bui_ness property on the above described property.
-The Planning. Board is unwilling to recommend this change
,'-:of zone because the application is for the wrong zoning for
the type of' business intended. This change would constitute
spot zoning, and the Planning Board feels . the parcel in question
is too large to be considered under this application.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa,.
Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Coyle, Mr. Grebe.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the
original petition of Benson S. Telsey, Greenport, New Yo2r,
relative to a change of zone from "A" Residential and
Agricultural District- to "B" Business' District- on certain
real property situated at Greenport, New York, and are
instructed' to prepare an official report defining. the
conditions described therein,
This property is described as follows:
All that ..certain tract, piece, or parcel, of land
situated at Greenport_ in the Town of= Southold,- County
of- Suffolk,. and State of' New York, and more particularly
bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a monument on the northerly line of' North
Road, adjoining land of the Village ,of Greenport; from said
point of-beginning running along. said land of the Village of
Greenport three courses :' Cl) north 330 47; 30" west, 373. 04
feet to a monument; thenee ,(2) north 40 23 ` 20" east, 154.46
feet to a monument; 'thence- ,(3) north 50 46' 10" east, 114.80
feet to a monument; thence along land of H.J.S.- Land and
Development Corp. , three courses: (1) south 85012150"' east:,
92.12 feet; thence south 180 51' 20" east 356.15 feet; thence
(3) south 370 59' 20" east 167.82 feet to a monument on said
northerly line of North Road; thence along '.said northerly line
two courses: ;.(1) south 510 17' 40" west, 157.10 feet; thence
12) south 520 37 ' 20" west, 5 feet to the point or placeof
beginnings containing 2. 03 acres.
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On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that the' Southold Town Planning Board does not
favorably recommend to, th a Southold Town Board the changeof
zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B"
Business District on the above described property.
The. Planning Bca rd is of the opinion it- would be a mistake
to establish a business zone adjoining the property- of the 4illage
of Greenport, and the residen£ ;ally, zoned property. This, .of
course, would be spot zoning,.
The Planning Board also points out that- the' County Road
will probably'be subject- to wide&1at some future date in
this particular area.
- Vote of the Board: Ayes-:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa,
Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Coyle, Mr. Grebe.
The Southold Town Planning Board received from the Southold
Town Board the original petition of Irving' L. Price, Jr. , of .
238 Main -Street, Greenport, New York, :.,telative to Sealshipt Corp-
oration's request- for a change of zone from "A" Residential and
Agricultural District to "C" Industrial District, with the
instructions to prepare an official report defining the conditions
contained in the petition.
.This property is desc:c :bed as follows:
All that certain. tract, piece, or parcel of land
situate, lying and being at Greenport, in the Town of
Southold,.- County of Suffolk, and State of New York, and
more particularly bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at the intersection of the west- boundary line-
of the Village of Greenport where the same intersects the .north-
erly line of these and other premises of Sealshipt-Corp; thence
S. 640 .15 ' 3.0" W. 183.37.' feet; thence southerly 15 feet, more
or less, to ordinary high water mark of' Peconic Bayl thence
easterly. along said high watermark 40 feet, more or less,
thence southerly -along a bulkhead..79 feet, more or less; thence
along a bulkhead t2145 feet, more or less, to the corner of
said bulkhead; thence northeasterly 75 feet, more or' less, to
the south boundary line of the Village of Greenport; thence
northwesterly along the said boundary line of the Billage of
Dlanning
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Greenport- to the aforementioned west boundary line of the
Village of Greenportl thence northerly along°=the said west
boundary line of the Village.. of Greenport to the point .of
beginning.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it- was
RESOLVED that the' Southold Town 'Planning Board does
favorably recommend .to the' Southold Town Board: the change
fof Zone from. "A" Residential and Agricultuaal District to
"C" Industrial District- on the above described property,
The Board agrees with the reasons. for a Chan ge, of
zone as presented in the petition.
Vote of the Board: Ayes; - Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa,
Mr. Unkelbach, Mr. Coyle, Mr. ' Grebe.
Mr., Lawrence Tuthill, P.E. ,. Construction Engineer, presented
the following letter to the Southold Town Planning Board:
"Southold Town Planning Board,- Southold, New York, October
3, 1.967. "
"REE Peconic Homes, Section II .
"Gentlemen: - I- have inspected the roads of Peconic Homes,
Section II and have found them to meet the specification of the
Planning Board.
"Respectfully submitted, /s/ Lawrence M. Tuthill. "
on motion- by'Mr. Moisa, -seconded by' Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that- the Southold Town Planning Board recommend
to the' Southold Town. Boar.d that .the Bond for the roads in
Peconic Homes, Section II, Peconic, New York, owned and. developed
by Henry' Smith, be waived.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa,
Mr. Unkelbach, .Mr. Coyle, Mr. 'Brebe.
Southold Town 'Plahbing Board -8- October- 3, 1967
On ,motion by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr.. Unkelbach, it was
RESOLVED that Henry Moisa .be known as th e .official vice-
Chairman of the' Southold Town Planning Board.
Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Unkelbach, Mr.-., Grebe, Mr.: Coyle.
Mr. Lawrence Tuthill, P.E. , Construction Engineer
presented the .following letter to the' Planning Board:
"Southold Town Planning Board, Southold, .New York&,
October 30 1967.
"Re: Fordham Acres Sec. II
"Gentlemen: I have inspected the roads of Fordham
Acres Sec. II and have found them to meet the specifications of
the, Planning Board.
"Respectfully submitted, /s/ Lawrence M. Tuthill. "
On motion by Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the' Southold Town' Planning Board recommed
to the Southold Town Board that they. release the performance
bond on Fordham Acres, Section II, Greenport, New York, owned
and developed by Ruth Preston, and' Others, subject to receiving
a letter-of approval from the Superintendent of Highways.
Vote of ' the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Unkelbach, Mr. Coyle, Mr. Grebe.
On motion by Mr. Unkelbach,, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the' Southold Town Planning
Board elated- Septa mber 6, 1967, be' approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes::- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr.-
Unkelbach, . Mr., Cyle, Mr. Grebe.
Southold Town Planning Board -.9- October 3, 1967
Mr. Grebe bresented a map of land located.on Fishers
Island,. New York, known as the Pennisula. There is an
existing temporary road shown on the map. 'There was a question
of access .to certain.lots. 'The present owner of the property,
Mr. Elbert Burr, wishes to sell off lots in this area. The
following letter was written,,to Mr. Burr:
Dear Mr. Burr:
The Planning Board has looked over your:7map of the
Penninsula, Fishers Island, New York, date d .1913; revised
October, 1951; revised July, 1953; and revised September
1967.
The Board has determined that this map is so obsolete that
a new map must .be filed before any further division of land is -
made. All lots will have to have frontage of at least 100 feet
on the access road and meet the minimum area requirements.
(12,500 square feet with adequate public water, or 20,OOO square
feet without public water) . All roads. must be cleared and
improved at least to 20 feet wide, possible wider depending on
the final number of lots involved.
The New York State Real Property Law requires the- filing
of a map prior. to the sale of lots, and the Town- of Southold
has. just revised their' Rules and Regulations . for the Subdivision
of Lan . All property division and sales .from' October. l, 1967,
are subject to these .requirements. No building permits will- be
issued without this approval.
In the Matter of Mr. Burnham's lot, the Board recognizes
prior ownership and will recommend that the Board of Appeals
handle the approval .of access to this single lot under the
provisions of the New York' State Town Law, Section 280A, with
a mininum road width of 20 feet, cleared and graded.
Mr. Van' Tuyl presented a revised subdivision plan for
Richard A. Sheldon, Louis Ferretti, and William Jessup on
property located on east side`Cox Lane,- Cutchogue, New York.
This plan was very briefly discussed. No action.was taken on
the matter.
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Southold Town' Blanning Board _ -10- October 31 1967
A plan .for George' Ahler's subdivision. was briefly discussed
and.no. action ,w as taken on the matter.
Mr. Van' Tuyl showed a sketch plan for subdivision- of
property behind Gardiners .Bay- Estates, on Orchard Lane,
East. Mation,. New York. The Board .bXiefly discussed this plan.
It was determined that any roads cut in would have to be at
least 50 feet.-. wide. .
The next regular meeting of. the- Southold Town Planning
Board .will be held at 7:30 P.M. , Thursday, November 2, 1967,
at the Town office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
' The meeting was adjourned at 10: 00' P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara C. Dittmann, Secretary
Southold Town- Planning Board
+JOHN WICKHAM, CHAIRMAN
SOUTHOLD TOWN' PLANNING� BOARD