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Southold Town Planning Board
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p • O� SOUTHOLD, L. i., N. Y. 11971
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
William Unkeibach
Frank Coyle
M I N U T E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
November 2, 1967
A regular meeting of the Southold Town-.Planning Board
was held at 7: 30 P.M. , Thursday, November 2, 1967, at the
Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: John Wickham, Chairman; Henry
Moisa, William Unkelbach, Frank Coyle.
Absent: Mr. Alfred Grebe - weather conditions did not permit
flying from Fishers Island.
Also present: Messrs: Otto W. Van Tuyl, P.E. , Consultant;
Howard Terry, Building Inspector.
PUBLIC HEARING: Upon question of approval of the following
plat;' Plat 'of property owned by Stanley Sledzieski, entitled
Sunset Knolls, consisting of a parcel of land 9.45 acres,
situated at Mattituck, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County,
New York, and bouned and described as follows:
Southold Town Planning Board -2- November' 2, 1967
BEGINNING at a monument- on the northwesterly line of Luther's
Road which is south 19° 48P' West 1,76.07' feet as measured along the
northwesterly line of Luther's Road. from a point- marking the :inter-
section of said line with the southerly end of a curve leading
into' Ruth Road, having a radius of' 18.50 feet and a length. of 34.54
. feet; from said' monument or point of beginning running thence' South
190 48' West 453. 95 feet along the northwesterly line, of Luther's
Road to a monument and land of Charles B.- ]Kleinschmidt; running
thence along said land two courses and distances as follows: 1)' north
850 39' west 442.4 feet; thence :(2) north 880 47' west 406.4 feet
to a monument and land of Stanley Sledzieski; .running thence along
said land two courses and distances as follows: (1) north 6° 05.1
.east 150.00 feet; thence (2) north 730 31' 4.0" west 50.00 feeti to
a monument and land of John Moisa; .running ihence along ,said land.
and subdivision map of "Captain Kidd Estates"' north 100 55-' 30"
west 2.79. 90 feet- to a monument and land of Stanley' Sledzieski; ., . .
.running thence along said land' and land of others south-.87° 11"
east- 1088.45 feet to the monument or- point- of beginning.
The, Chairman opened the hearing by reading the legal notice
of hearing, and the affidavit of publicati on -from, the Bong Island
Traveler-Mattituck Watchman, .and the' Suffolk Weekly Times.
MR: UNKELBACH:: Shouldn't- the legal description read along -other
land of Stanley`Sledzieski?
THE CHAIRMAN: They are two separate parcels of land. I have
the application for approval and it seems to be in order. I have
a copy of the covenants, in duplicate. I have the estimate from
the Engineer for the roads at Sunset Knolls.
"Southold- Town Planning Board August 9,1967
Main' Street
Southold, New York
Re: Sunset Knolls
Gentlemen:
My .estimate for the roads at Sunset- Knoills , Mattituckt.
is as follows:
Land Clearing none
Rough grading 900 cy C' $.50/cy $ 450.00
fine grading: -900 if.0 $.30/lf 270,00
Southold Town- Planning Board -3- November 2, 1967
surfacing - 900 if C $4. 00%1f $3600. 00
drainage
2 catch.basins @ $500.0 ea. 1000.00.
2 leaching basins @ $1000.00 ea. 2000.00
50 if of -18" pipe,C $3.00%1f 150,600
Increase costs over 3� year period 730. 00
Administrative costs 800..00
$"9000. 00
Recommend a bond of $9,000.00
Respectfully submitted, /s/ Lawrence- Me Tuthi'll".
WILLIAM`WICKHAK ESQ.: May S bring up� at this point.. at 'this
point.we have a contract' entered into with Paul Corazzini & Sons
to do the. whole job for $6s,000.00. We wonder if you would take
thatinto consideration with your recommendation for the bond.
They wre going to start it inthe fall, but they are goirig to, wait
until next spring now.
THE` CHAIRMAN: if you add $1500.00 to this for increased cost
over three years, you would end' up with $7500.00.
WILLIAM WICKH'AKeESQ;: That is a contract cost.
THE' CHAIRMAN: My pdnt is that- we have these bonds for- three
years in order to give protection to the Town. We have, got. to
figure what: it. would' cost three years. from now. We are talking
about $7500.00. The Town needs some margin.
WILLIAM WICKHAM,ESQ.': Even if we have contracted to do this
within a certain amount- of time?
STANLEY SLEDZIESKI: This will be cmmpleted in May.
THE CHAIRMAN: Even. then it will be two years before you have
enough building.
STANLEY' SLEDZIESKI: 1- expect- to have two houses in there by
next summer.
THE CHAIRMAN: It's nice to have dedication and release of
the bond at- the same time. I know too many places, whre it- doesn't
work out- quite as nicely as it was anticipated. I see no reason why
we could not* reduce this bond somewaht.
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Southold Town' Planning Board -4- November, 2, :1967
, WILL]AM WICKHAM ESQ.: I was reminded' as I, came in that I
should deliver a letter of intent- on any future subdivision filed
by the applicant.
THE CHAIMRAN: This is right. I h ave a letter here from
the' Superintendent of Highways.
"Gentlemen:
I have inspected the map and approve "the layout of the proposed
road .(s) at SUNSET'KNOLLS, Mattituck, New York, however,, there is
one correction- to be made, for' Section 12 of the Highway Specifications
calls for'.a 'thirty-two (32) foot section in 'the center of the highway
area, not twenty-five, as. shown on the. map.
Very truly yours,, /s/ Raymond' C. Dean, Sup`t of Highways. "
STANLEY SLEDZIESKI: The suggestion on the. road was corrected.
THE, CHAIRMAN: As near as I can tell at this time everything
is in order ..w'ith :the. exception of that we need. the letter of intent,
and. straighten out the road requirement on the width. of the road,
At this time I will open up, the hearing and ask .for anyone
who wishes to speak 'in. opposition to this subdivision to be known
as Sunset Knolls to do so at this time.
;(There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: Hearing none,, Is there anyone present who
wishes to be heard in favor of this subdivision?
WILLIAM WICKEIAMR-M:: I have nothing further.
THE, CHAIRMAN: Hearing, nothing further we will declare- the
hearing closed and take action -later tonight. The letter-.:)of intent
should be in, compliance with the park and playgwound' provisionsof
the Town of Southold, and also we will need the profile of 'th e
road.
. Southold Town Planning Board -5-, November 2,, 1967
Mr.- Rne Gendron. appeared before the Planning Board with a
preliminary plan ,of Vista Bluff,, formerly Vincent prope$ty, located
north west side' Duck" Pond Road, Cutchogue.r New York. Mr. Van Tuyl
pointed out that' a turn-around circle would be used instead of the
original plan shown; that the-- number of lots along the .southerly
boundary line had been reduced from. five lots to four- lots. Mr.
Van Tuyl also stated that three or -four- of the lots were not
20,000 .square feet, and this has not been. taken up with the
Health Department- to see if they would approve this plan with lots
less than 20,OOO .square feet.
Mr. Gendron stated- that- Mr. Villa of the Health Department
had viewed the map. Mr. Gendron indicated on the map. just- where
Mr. Villa wanted test holes. - He said Mr. Villa would pass. on the
map after the test hole was done.
.The question was asked whether or not the applicant should
go ahead with work on .a final map. The' Chairman advised that
the applicant should wait until he finds out if the- Health
Department would go along, with the small lots. Itva.s pointed
out- that- the applicant has eight acres of land and only 13 lots.
It was generally agreed by the Planning Board that final work
could be started on the final maps for' Vista Bluff.
Mr. George Barzac, Jr. , appeared before the Board .with a,
preliminary application for "Redwood .Park" Boisseau Avenue,
Southold. Mr. Barzac stated that all of' the changes suggested
at the last meeting had been made, and that the name Redwood Park
has been approved by the County*Clerk's Office. The' Chairman
stated that- the park- and playground area had-,been -discussed and
this is okay. Mr. Van Tuyl stated, that: the-, land-would be graded
toward Boisseau Avenue and that the' Superintendent of Highways
had given his okay to hood up to the present storm-drainage- on
Boisseau Avenue. . The' Chairman read the estimate submitted by
Mr. Barzac for the completion of the roads and other. improvements.
The' Chairman advised that the� Planning Board also have their
engineer do an estimate for the completion of roads and other
improvements in the subdivision. This subdivision will have public
water. They need to have test holes done for the sewage disposal.
Also needd is a letter of approval of the roads from 'the
Superintendent of Highways.
It was agreed to authorize the Building' Inspector to issue
a building permit- for lot number 17 in Redwood Park,. upon reciept
of the approval of the County Board of Health.
Southold Town' Planning Board -6- Novmmber 2, 1967
Mr, Frank Thorp, et' alt, appeared before the' Planning Board
with a preliminary application for Gardiners Bay' Estates,. Section
III, at East- Marion. There are 16 lots involved in this section.
The- Chairman advised that the applicants will have to comply with
the park & Playground provisinns of the Town of Southold. . The
question of setting aside the beach was raised. Mr. Thorp stated
that all of the lots already sold on Gardiners Bay- Estates have
deeded beach rights. The chairman asked how wide the arm of the lake
is. Mr. Van Tuyl advised it is approximately 50 feet- wide.
Mr. Thorp stated that the parcel of land in question was the
last they owned and there would be no more property to be subdivided.
The' Chairman advised that they would need a letter of intent for
recreation purposes, depending on what they' applicant- wish to- .set
aside. The question of retaining' Fox Island as a- recreation area
was discussed and the' Chairman stated a leeter of intent could be
filed on, this. The, Chairman further advised the applicant that he
would have. to have the approval from the' Superiritendenit of Highways
on the layout of the road and the approval from the° Courity Board' of
Health.
Mr. Dona]d Tuthill appeared before the' Planning Board with a
sketch plan for a subdivision. This property is east side Boisseau
Avenue and Arshamomaque Pond comes in cn the north west- property
line. Mr. Van Tuyl showed an overall map , of the area showing the
subdivision to be Known as "Redwood Park, "owned by' George Barzac, Jr.
which is nearby the property of Tuthill. The width of' Laurel Lane
was discussed and it was determined that' Laurel Lane is 49Z feet
wide. It- was- thought this may be- used for access to the subdivision.
Mr. Tuhill pointed out- the low spots and the natural drainage on
the property. Mr. Tuthill also showed additional property owned
by him that they intended to file a map on at some future date. The
Planning Board advised, that it would .be in his own best interest
to file the whole thing at one time, rather than going through
the proceedure of filing a map twice. It was determined that all
lots involved in the land to be filed at- this time were at least
22, 000 square feet except for maybe two lots that-.were a little less.
Mr. Van Tuyl stated .it was the intent to have Village water
put in the subdivision. The location of the,.- roads were discussed
at some lenght. Mr. .Tuthill also stated he had given thought' to
making a lake area by the old brickyard area. He stated'he had
the Health Department down and. there is clay in this . immediiate area.
Southold..Town Planning Board -.7-. November 2, 1967
Tlequestion ..of, park and playground requirements was discussed.
.Vari zs1locations for the park- and playground in the subdivision
. were, discussed. The' Chairman advised Mr. Tuthill the area -involved
for' park .and playground would equal about one lot- for every 50,
lots in 'the,.subdivision. Mr. Tuthill was. advised to file for
' preliminary approval of the subdivision; that in general it met
with .the' Planning Board's approval. Mr.. Tuthill was advised he
could decide on what he wanted to set aside for park and playground.
Also he needs to .clear the road ,layout. with the' Superintenden t
of' Highways and show the catch basins. on the map.
On. motion by Mr: Coyle, seconded.by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED That the minutes of the' Southold Town Planning Board
dated October: 3, 1967, be approved -as' submitted.
Vote .of` the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On motion by Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the' Southold Town Planning Board recommend
to the: Southold. Town Board a performance bond .in the amount of
$8,500.00 .for .the completion of roads and other improvements in
the subdivision to be known' as "Sunset- Knolls", located at` Mattituck,
owned and. developed by' Stanley' Sledzieski.
The Planning Board recommends this amount-in view of the fact
the estimate submitted to Mr. Sledzieski by' Paul- Corazzini & Sons,_
Inc., is . substantially lessthan the estimate submitted- to the
Planning Board by Lawrence Tuthill, PE.'
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On- motion. by'Mr. Unkelbach, seconded by Mr. Moisa,- itwas
RESOLVED: WHEREAS Stanley Sledzieski, has petitioned the
Southold Town Planning Board for final. approval of 'their plat '
known .as "Sunset Knolls",. at Mattituck,'. N.Y. , and
WHEREAS the' Superintendent`. of Highways of the Town of Southold
has inspected the map, and approves this highway layout of' the, roads
to be constructed, and his report is hereby accepted by the, Plann-ing
Board, and
Southold town Planning Board -8- November 2,' m967
WHEREAS the applicant has filed a letter of' intent to meet
the park and playground requirements of the' Planning Board, and
WHEREAS the signing of the final maps by the' Chairman of the
Southold Town` Planning.,Board is waived until such time as the
performance bond is posted for the roads, and other improvements
in the' Subdivision, and said- bond. is accepted by the Southold' Town
Board,
NOWOTHEREFORE,, BE IT RESOLVED that the- Subdivision -to be- known
as "Sunset Knolls", at Mattituck,, New York, consisting of 9.45 .
acres , owned and developed by Stanley Sledzieksi, be and it hereby
is apppved.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham,,. Mr. -Moisa.' Mr. Unk'elbach,
Mr.- Coyle.
Mr., Otto Van Tuyl presented preliminary plan. for subdiNision
of George-,Ahlers in Southold. The' Chairman gave the- history of the
canal being dug and stated Mr:. Ahlers was advised to cease work on
the 'canal,, and the canal is to be filled back in.
On motion by Mr. Moisar seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was .
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board instruct
the' Southold- Town Building Inspector- not- to issueeany building
permits on any lots covered by the subdivision application of
George° Ahlers as shown on the map by' Otto W. Van Tuyl &-- Son,
map dated October 28,, 1967,. entitled "Preliminary' Plan of: Calves
Neck",, -until such time as the developer meets' all- the requirements
of the' Planning Board and files- a map,- -
Vote of' the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickhamr, Mr. Moisa, Mr.
Unkelbach, Mr.- Coyle.
Southold Town Planning Board -9- November' 2, .1967
' The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board .
will be held at 7:3& P01X* Tuesday, November 21, 1967, at the Town .
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
,The meeting was adjourned at 10: 00 P6M9
Respectfully submitted,
P
Barbara-C. Dittmann, ecretary
Southold Town' Planriing Board
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