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O � SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William Unkelbach
MINUTE S
SOUTHOLD TOWN"PLANNING BOARD
June 3,, 1965
A regular meeting of the- Southold Town Planning Board was
held at 7:30. P.M:'t, Thursdays. June 31,1 19658, at .the Town Office,;
Main Road, Southoldr, New York.
There were present: Messrs: John Wickham... Chairman,; Henry
Moisas Alfred Grebe, Archibald Young j acting chairman until Mr.
Wickham was present,; and William' Unkelbach.
Also present: Messrs: Otto Van Tuyl;, Consultant,. Howard
Terry, Buld.ing Inspector.
Lefferts- P, Edsont Esq. . and Mr. Schneider appeared before
the Board to request- a date for a final hearing on Eastern" Shores,
at Greenportr, Section III. Mr. Youngs; acting 'Chairman,r.- advised
Mr. Edson that a letter ofapproval was needed from Harold Pricei.
Superintendent of Highways' on the 'layout .of the roads. Also,.
the Planning Board had not yet received an estimate fora per-
formance bond for the completion of the roads and water mains
in the subdivision. Mr. Young,, acting Chairman, further advised
Mr-. Edson that they would set a date for a hearing after' Mr.
Wickham was present.
Plan ing
Southold Town oar -2- June � 196,-
- Lefferts P. Edson,, - Esq. , and Mr._ Schneider also appeared
before the Board to obtain preliminary approval of the
subdivision to be known as "Eastern- Shores,,at Greenport,,- Section
IV",�p, This portion of the subdivision contains approximately
12 acres and is furbher 'bounded'and described as follows:
All that certain plot, piece or parcel of land, situates;
lying and being near 'Greenport,. Town of Southold,,- County of
Suffolk and State of 'New York, bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at .a point at the ordinary high water mark-of Long
Island Sound marking division of lands of 'F.H.S. Land and
Development Corp., and HJ.'S. Land & Development Corp;running
thence northerly' and then easterly along. said ordinary high j
water mark of Long Island Sound 2045 feet, more or less, to land
now or formerly of Burt; running thence southerly along said
land of Burt a distance of 320 feet, more . or less; running thence
through land of H 'J:S Land & Development-Corp. a distance of
450 feet to' Sound Drive as shown on- Map of Eastern Shores at
Greenport, Section II; running thence -northerly 50 feet,. south-
westerly 460 feet, more or less and thence southerly 50 feet, more
or less to the southwesterly corner_ of 'Sound Drive as shown on
said map; running thence southerly a distance of 206 feet along the
westerly line. of'Map of Eastern Shores at Greenport, Section II,
to land now or formerly of' Speeches; running thence along said
land.now or formerly of 'Speeches and land now or formerly of
Morrison in a westerly direction a distance of '500 feet, more' or
less, to a concrete monument; running- thence along said land now or
formerly of Morrison in a southerly direction a distance of 2'75
feet,. more or less to land of F�H.S� Land & Development' Corp;
running thence along said land of F HoS Land & Development- Corp,
in a westerly direction a distance of 500 feet, more or less,, to
the ordinary high watermark of:Long Island Sound at- the point or
place of beginning.
On motion by Mr. Unkelbach,. seconded by Mr. Moisat, it was
RESOLVED that- the subdivision to be known as "Eastern Shores
at Greenport, Section IV' ,. located at- Greenports. containing
approximately 12 acres'., owned and developed by H.-J S: Land & '
' Development Corp., be given preliminary approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: -Mr. Young, Mr. Grebe, Mr. Moisa,
Mr. Unklebach.
` Southold Town Planning Bc;.:�3 -3- June 196'
Edward Abitz appeared before the Board to request a date -
for ' a 'final hearing on the subdivisions_ "Mattituck Estates".
Mr. Young,, acting Chairman, advised him that 'they-tatould set
a date fora hearing as soon as possible, but would have to
wait for Mr. Wickham to seta definite date.
Mr. Abitz also presented the Board with photographs of
the type of entrance he would 4e to have to the subdivision.
He stated that this -entrance 'would be five feet to six feet
.back from the road and requested the Board's opinion on the
matter. Mr. Young advised Mr. Abitzs that .a wood entrance
would be more acceptable than abzbbewy shrubbery. There is
a chance that the shrubbery would become overgrown and obstruct
vision of the traffic. Mr. -Abitz was also advised that an
entrance such, as he proposed. would have to be 'set-back 35 feet
from the highway line,
(Mr. John Wickham,(a.s present at the meeting at 8:20 P.M:''r,
and presided as Chairman. )
On motion by Mr.- Moisa,. seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set 7:30 P:M ,
Tuesday) June 29,, 1965, at the Town Office,' Main Roads - Southold,.
New York, as time and place of 'hearing upori.question of approval
of the following plat:
1. Plat of property owned by He J.'Se Land &' Development
Corp.;, ' and J®M:S.- Land & Development Corps, entitled Eastern '
Shores at Greenport, Section III, consisting of .'a parcel of
land of 7.96 acres, situated at Greenportr' in the Town of
Southold...' Suffolk-County, New Yorks and more particularly
bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at a point- on the northerly line of :a proposed
50 .foot-hilghway to be known as "Homestead Way".... at the south-
easterly corner of Lot 89 as shown on "Map of Eastern Shores,
Section '2", from said point of beginning running. the following
courses: (I) N. 20° 57-' 50" W.-650.0 feet; thence (2) N. 80 53'
10" W.-284.11 feet'; thence (3) N.'- 22 40° ' W" E-.-55.90 feet;
thence (4) N. 7° 21' 00" W.-165.30 feet; thence (5) N. 860 07'
00" E.-103.0 feet; thence (6) N. 72° 31' 40" E.-109.81 °
feet;
thence
�� '(7) S.. 20° 57' 50" E.-142.02 feet; thence (8) S. 4
16 20 E.-52.20 feet; thence (,9) S. 200 57' 50" E.-950.0 feet
thence (10) S. 690 02" 10" W.-130.0 feet; thence (11) N. 20�
57' 5011 W.-50.0 feet; - thence (12) S. 690 02' 10" W.-200.0 feet
. to- the point ofbeginning.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham- Mr'- Moisa' Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Youngs . and Mr. Unkelbach.
Southold Town Planning B_-_d =4- June 3. 196.,
On,motion by Mr"' Greber .seconded by Mr. Unkelbach', it was
RESOLVED .that - the, Southold Town Planning Board set 7:30 P.M.''
Tuesday- June 29,, 1965, at the- Town Office', Main Road',. Southold',.
New York,, as time and place of .hearing upon, question of approval
of the following plat:
Plat .of 'property owned.by Mattituck Estates,, Inc...,.
entitled Mattituck- Estates at Mattituck, consisting of ;a
parcel. of land of 42.8 acres, situated at-Mattituckr, in the
Town of :Southoldr. Suffolk"County.r.'. New York* and.more particularly
bounded and ddscribed as follows::
Beginning at . a granite monument- set on the southerly line
of the- Main Road at the northwest corner of the premises -herein
described and. adjoining land of Joseph Miska on the west; running
thence along the southerly line of the,Main Road N. 880 08y 20"
E.-748467 feet to a granite monument; thence continuing. N. '"890
03: 00" E.-86 feet to land of:Elizabeth M. Tuthill; running thence
along said land of Tuthill .two courses and distances as follows:
(1) S. 10 34' 30" W.-200.0 feet', thence (2) N.; 89° 03: E.-125,0
feet to landd' of Filla; running thence along said 11and' of'Filla
So 10 34" 30" W.-904.70 feet - to a gutter; running thence again along
land"of Filla through said gutter N.. 50° 401 10" E.-452,34 .feet
to land of COB._ Ththill;running thence along said land of' Tuthill
S. 87° 26,t 30". E.- .288.74 feet to a I. pipe and land formerly of
Leicht',. now of Sidor; running thence along said land of Sidor
S. 70 43' 50" W.-1125.34 feet- to the northerly .line of New' Suffolk
Avenue; running thence along- the northerly line of New- Suffolk
Avenue N. 820 531 50" W.-550.0 feet to other land of Melot; running
thence along said land of'Melot three courses and distances as
follows: (1) N. 78 43y. 50" E.-500.0 feet; thence- ,(2) N,. 82° 5311
50" W.-350.0 feet thence, southwesterly about '250 feet to a
monument on the northwest corner of land of:Russel-D. Tuthill;
running thence albngg said land of Tuthill- S.. 10° 49= E.-262.1 , feet
to the northerly line of New' Suffolk-Avenue; running thence N. 820
53=- 50" W.- along the northerly line of New Suffolk-Avenue 28.500
.feet to land of'Miska; running thence along said land of-Miska
eight- courses and distances as follows: . '(1) N. 110 00": E.-160.0
feet, thence (2) N, 80 54" W.-104.35 :feet, thence��,(3) ' N. 790 2 9"
50" W.-240;`0 feet, thence (4) N. 6° 3721 50" E.-545.49 feet; thence
(5). N. 5° 2411 40" E.-410.42 feet- thence (6) S. 89 31'=.. 20" W.-
244--89 feet, thence ;(7) N. 6°' 371" 10" E.-394.51 .feet,, thence (8)
N. 3° 303 40" E.-134.0 feet to the monument and place of 'beginning.
Vote of the Board: , Ayes:-Mr. Wickham',, Mr. Mossa,, Mr. Grebe,,,
Mr. Young-, and Mr. Unkelbach.
Southold Town Planning BC.:..-d -5- June 3, 196,
Bernard and Theodore Kaplan appeared before the Board to
discuss the proposed subdivision to be known as "Dawn- Estates",,
located at Greenport, in the Town of Southoldt: Suffolk-County,' '
New, York, -owned and. developed by DawnEstates Builders .Corp.
This -subdivision will contain approximately 28 lots.' Mr.
Kaplan was advised that the Board would wait until they had a
report from Mr. Young on the meeting with the Town Trustees.
This meeting dealt-with the creation of man made cards ,, ., such
as proposed in the subdivision- "Dawn- Estates". It was felt
that themeeting' with .the trustees should not be discussed with
the applicants. Mr. Wickham advised the applicants that the
Planning Board would try to have an answer for them at their
next meeting.
Mr. Wickham felt that the lots in the subdivision were
too small, however, Mr. Kaplan felt that there was no real
basis to determine whether lots were too small or too .large.
He also felt that there are many people-who request smaller
lots. Mr. Young advised that the water table was a- serious
question and should be given very serchous consideration. Mr.
Kaplan didn't feel that the proposed canal in the subdivision -
would harm the water table,: in. vaew of 'the .fact- that the
subdivision would have village-water.
Mr. Wickham further advised that there are �tules and
regulations for the provision. of a park- and playground area
in the subdivision. . He also..Iiformed Mrs Kaplan that said
park and playground area would 'have to be for the public and
not just for 'the lot owners in the subdivision.
Lefferts P. Edson,.. Esq.•,' and Mr. and Mrs. Clayton Clarke
next appeared bebre the Board to discuss the following change
of zone application of Mr. amd Mrs. Clarke.
All that certain tract or parcel of land situated
at- Peconic,, in the Town of' Southold,, Suffolk'County,' New
York.,, and more particularly bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at a monument on the northerly line of North Road
marking the division of land of Clayton H., and'Rose M. Clarke,:
and the County of 'Suffolk; running thence north 450 37' 00"
W. along said division line a distance of '200 feet; running
thence through land of Clayton H.• Clarke and Rose M.• Clarke
south 590 27'' 30" W.- a distance of 445.35 feet more or less
to land now or formerly of :Laura and Kenneth Case; Runing thence
along said last mentioned land south 470 101 0:0" E.- a distance
of 100 feet more or less to 'land now or formerly of Belinski;
running thence along said last mentioned land two courses as
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Southold Town Planning Bo- -6 June 3j 196.
follows: 1. North 5.1* 581, 00" E. a distance of 16.20 .feet. 2.. South
40° 03: 00" E.- a distance of 100y feet-';to a- monument on the said
norkierly line of' North Road; rurining'`�e"I ce along the said north-
erly line of the North Road nor
t59;,=2.7`=' 30" E.- a distance of
445035 feet to the monument- at a-, point=:'of 'beginning.
Mr. Edson stated that the applicants were not- asking for the
whole farm to be changed to business. They only wanted a small
parcel of 'the farm,,, in order- to conduct their business,' namely ]
an antique shop, - Mr. Edson also stated that to the east .of the
property .in question is Kaelin's Farm Machinerys.. Doroski=-s and
Myers Factory,; all zoned business. The property of :Charles
Hubbard,' non-conforming business, is across the street from the
property in question. The applicants were advised that the :.
Planning Board was not willing to go along with this change of
zone. Such a change in this particular location would constitute
spot zoning. This would be a small business district in the
middle of a residential section. The Planning Board also pointed
out that-County 'Route 27A was to'be a high-speed highway and
should not have small businesses on the route,
Lefferts P. Edson appeared before the Board to discuss the
following change of zone application.
The petition of Vitaliano� Caroleo and others for a change
of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural. District to "B-2"
Business District on certain real property situated' at-Cutchogues
in the Town of Southold, Suffolk-County, New York, and more
particularly bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at- a monument on the southerly line of Middle Road
marking the division of lands ' of the applicants herein and L.
Glover; running thence along lands of the said. L. Glover .two courses
as follows: 1. south 44' 50. 00" E.- a distance of 43! , 162 feet- to
a monument. 2. south 67� 373 50" W.- a distance of 402:'84 feet to
the easterly line of Coxes Lane; runn34g thence along the said
easterly Line. of 'Coxes" Lane north 440 05= 50" W.- a distance of
350.02 feet to the southerly end of a curve connecting the easterly
line of�Coxes Lane with the southerly .line' of Micidle Road;. running
thence along the arc of' a curve to the right'EX the radius of 'which
is 58.98 feet a distance of 115.01 feet; running thence along the
southerly line of'Middle Road north 670 37' 50" E.- a distance of
308. 92 feet, to the monument-.at the point of 'beginning. containing
3.682 acres.
Southold Town..Planning ' ,__.rd -7- June 3,, 19-.,
The Planning Board advised Mr. Edson that the change of
zone would also constitute spot zoning.: This change of zone
is . also on the' County Route '27As, which the'Planning 'Board
feels should be maintained as a high-speed highway. Mr. Edson
requested that the Planning Board hold-up their recommendation
on this application until they receive a report from the 'County
on a study being made of County Route 27A.
On motion by Mr. Modsa, seconded by Mr. Grebe*,'. it was
. RESOLVED that-Lawrence Tuthill,, professional engineer.
be authorized to make an estimate for a performance bond for
-the completion of the roads and water mains in the subdivision
-to -be known as ' Eastern_ Shores at Greenport,, Section III, There
shall be a total for the completion of the roads,, and .a total
for .the water °mainsr. and the grand total.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr.- Wickhamr. Mr. Moisa,, Mr. Grebe,.
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Planning Board received from .the Town Board the
original petition of-.Anna C. Hansens: fora change of zone
from "A" Residential and Agricultural District- to "B-2"
Business-Dis.txict on certain real property, situated at
-Mattituck, in' the Town of SoutholdrSuffolk County,, New York,
with the instructions to prepare an official report defining
the conditions therein.This propertyasbounded and described
as follows:
Beginning at a monument-.on the nota;herly side of 'Mill Road
at the southeast corner of 'the premises described adjoining land
of Krupski on the east; running thence along said Mill Road five
courses and-distances as follows: (1) S. 680 142 50" ,W.-304..46
feet; (2) S. 83 31'= l0" W.-146.16 feet; (31 N. 57 48`= 50" W.-
252.76 feet;, (4)' No' 149° 25'i 30" W.-127.37 feet; (5)' N." 770 34=
50" W.-129.04 feet to other land of the petitioner zoned "B"; '
running thence along said "B" zone in a northerly direction about
400 feet; thence westerly about 300 feet to Mattituck-Creek;
running thence along Mattituck Creek northerly thence northeasterly
to the center of Sebastian'-s Gutter; thence southeasterly along
the center of :sebastian's Gutter to a gutter running in a north-
easterly direction; thence along the center of said gutter to
land of Krupski; running thence along said land of Krupski four
courses and distances . as follows: (1) N. 80° 52-8 40" E.-88.0 feet;
Southold Town Planning 1-._'rd -8- June
(2) N. 77' 419 20" E.-410.57 feet; , ,(3) S. 12° 059 10" E.-908.45
feet; (4)_ ..S. 12° 5 0=° 10" E.-241.0 feet to the point or place
of beginning.
On motion by Mro Moisa, seconded by Mr. Young,. it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board does not
favorably recommend to the Town Board the change of zone . from
"A" Residential . and Agricultural District to "B-2" Business
` District- on the property of Anna C. Hansen as described above.
The Planning Board feels that the property in question is
too large of an area to be zoned for business.
Vote of the .Board!" Ayes-.- Mr. Wickham,, Mr. Moisa, Mr, Grebe,,
Mr-. Young,, and Mr.Unkelbach.
The Planning Board again took up the matter of the petition
of `H.R. Reeve & Sons, Inc. , for a change of zone from" "A"
. Residential and Agricultural District to "B-2" Business District,
on certain real property situated at-Mattituck, in the Town of
Southold..,' Suffolk County, New York, and more particularly bounded
and described as follows:
Beginning at a concrete monument on the westerly side of
Wickham Avenue .at the northeasterly corner ' of land of Elmer
Ruland; running thence S. 470 381 W.-236 feet along said .land of
Ruland to. a concrete monument thence' S. 390 079` 20" E.-67.52
feet along said land of Ruland; thence along land formerly of Tyler
now.-of Zimnoski S. 43° 41: 20" E.-48 feet to other land of applicant
zone "B" Business; thence southwesterly along said "B" Business
zone about 280 feet to the easterly line of Maiden' Lane, said
point being 180 feet.northerly from Middle Road Extension; running
thence along the easterly line of Maiden' Lane N. 48e 571 30" W.-
315 feet,. more or less to Mattituck- Creek; running thence in a
northerly thence in- an easterly direction along Mattituck Creek
to land of Walter'Williams; thence running S. 44 . ll" E." along
said land of 'Williams 219..61 feet more or less; thence again
running along land of'Williams N. 47* 381� E.-101.34 feet to the
westerly line of Wickham Avenue; running thence S. 39° 07 = 20"
E.-4.9.58 feet along the westerly side of-Wickham-.Avenue to the
point or place of'beginning.
Southold Town Planning Lo"xd -9- June 3..., 19�,:;
On-motion by Mr. Grebe,; seconded by Mr. Young,, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board hold-up their recommendation
on the property of H.R. Reeve & Sons. Inc.,. until the Southold
Town Board takes action of the petition of Vina Baker and George
Van Buren,; for a change of zone from "A" Residential and'Agricultural
District to "B-2" Business 'District. This property is'�.in the
same vicinity as the property of 'H.R.' Reeve's Sonst Inc.
Vote of-the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham... Mr.. Moisa, Mr Grebe,.
Mr. Young.. and Mr. Unkelbach,
The Planning Board again took up the matter of the: pe-it4en
petition of William J. Pollert . for a change of zone from "A"
Residential and Agricultural--District to "B-2" Business District&,
on certain real property situated at Greenport, in the Town of
Southold,. Suffolk,County, New- York,, and more particularly bounded
and described as follows:
BegirxAing at a point on the westerly line of Manhanset
Avenue where the same- is intersected by the northerly line of
Champlin� Place and thence .running along said northerly line of
Champlin Place, south 580 35" 20" west,, 489.90 feet to a pointj,
running thence. north 31 243" 40" west, 832.03 feet to a point .on the
southerly line of the' North Road; thence along the southerly line
of North Road two courses,, as follows: (1) north 660 36240" east,
291.24 feet,, and (2) north 650 23` 50" east,: 228.44"feet; thence
abng land now or formerly of Benze,, two courses, as follows:
1) south 22° 30' loll east,, 191.59 feet, and (2) north 660 en
40" east 116:,,l.4 feet to the westerly line of- Manhanset Avenue;
thence along said line,, south 20 121 30" east... 569.68 feet to
the point or place of beginning.
On motion by Mr. Wickham, seconded by-Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board does not
favorably recommend to the Town. Board the change of zone from
"A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B-2" Business
District-.on the property of Wil9.iam J. Pollert as described
above.
It is the opinion of the Planning Board that a business
zone of this size and in this particular vicinity doesn't
appear to be needed at this time.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr, Young,, and Mr. Unkelbach.
Southold Town Planning B&� d -10- June 3., lsz_
A letter was sent to Hermon F. Bishop. commissioner, Depart-
ment of Public Works,- County of Suffolk, requesting a copy of
the plans for the future extension of 'County Route 2'7A, as soon
as they are available.
Howard Terry, Building Inspector,, reportedthat he had
talked to Mr. Williamsonr and he had given his approval on
the subdivision to be known as ` "blue Horizons". This subdivision
had been approved subject to a letter from Mr. Williamson. The
Chairman is to be notified when the Town Board accepts: the
performance bond ..so that he may sign the final maps.
On motion by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Young,.' it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Planning
Board. dated May 11,: 1965, be approved as submitted.
Vote of the' Board: Ayes:Mr. Wickham. Mr. Moisa, Mr, Grebe..
Mr. Young., and Mr.Unkelbach.
Mr._ Young- reported .on his meeting with the Town Trustees,:
Town .Attorney Robert Taskerr, Esq. , and Supervisor *Albertson.,
At the meeting the creation 'of man-made canals was discusseae
Mr. Young reported that Robert Tasker, Esq. informed them that
a man can dig in his back yard and create a canal- if he wants
to. The Planning Board then held more discussion on this
particular subject.
Mr. Young also reported that there should be an exchange'
of-minutes between the Town Board, Board of:Appeals, ' Planning
Board and Town Trustees.
A letter was sent to Brookhaven Town Planning Board and
Southampton Town Planning Board asking. them what their policy
has been in connection with the creation of man-made canals.
A letter was written to Bernard and Theodore Kaplan in
regard to the proposed subdivision "Dawn Estates. Section I� =
They were advised that the Planning Board would have a more
definite answer for them at their meeting in July. They will
be notified of 'the exact date.
Southold Town Planning Bc,__d -il- June 3,, 19�,�
The Southold Town Planning Board will. hold an executive
meeting on June . 2211. 1965r. at the Town Officer. Main Road,- SouthoJJdj
New York,, at 7:3 0 P:M.
The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board
will be held at ;:7:30 Peg.',., Tuesdays June 29r, 1965,' at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Meeting adjourned at 11:05 P:MO
RESPECTFULLY. SUBMITTED',
Barbara C.. Dittmann,' Secretary
diOHN WICKHAM,'- CHAIRMAN