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Southold Town Planning Board
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PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
William Unkelbach
Frank Coyle
M I- N U• T E S
Southold Town Planning Board
December 12, 1967
A regular meeting of the' Southold .Town Planning board was
held at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, on
Tuesday, December 12, 1967" at--7:30 p.m.
There were present: Messrs: John Wickham, Chairman;
Henry'Moisa, Vice Chairman; William Unkelbach, and Frank
Coyle.
Absent: Mr. Alfred Grebe - weather conditions did not
permit flying from Fishers Island.
Also present: Otto W. Van Tuyl, P.E. , Consultant; Howard
- Terry, Building Inspector, Lawrence Tuthill, P.E. , Construction
Engineer; Raymond Dean, Superintendent. of Highways.
Mr.- Dominic Aurichio appeared before the' Planning Board
with a sketch plan for a subdivision on property located south
side Soundview Avenue and north side Middle Road. Mr. Aurichio
plans to subdivide approximately four acres .of land into 11 lots
with a 30-33 foot private road providing access. The lots will
be minimum size and some will be 15, 000 square feet. Mr.- Aurichio
felt this plan was in keeping with the lot size in the immddiate
area. Mr. Aurichio also stated that he planned to put in a
fire hydrant, thus relieving surrounding property of any further
hazard.
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Southold Town Planning Board -2- December 12,, 1967
The' Chairman advised Mr. Aurichio that the Planning Board
is very reluctant to approve much more than two lots per acre
for subdivisions. Mr.- Aurichio stated he plans to install city
water. The' Chairman also advised Mr.- Aurichio that the Planning
Board requires a 50 foot road and 100 foot frontage on all lots;
and informed him of the park and playground .requirements. Mr.
Aurichio pointed out- that no other lots in the immediately
surrounding area have 20,000 square feet. The Chairman advised
Mr. Aurichio that if he wanted the minimum size lots the Planning
Board could require a 50 foot road and a park and playground area.
The* Chairman suggested that Mr.- Aurichio have Mr. Van Tuyl
make a new map. It- was also pointed out that approval of the
highway layout must be obtained from the' Superintendent of
Highways and that `,he usually does not go along with odd-shaped
turn-arounds. Mr. Aurichio stated they wanted the turn-around
to discourage through traffic. The' Chairman also pointed out
that the road should be 'made 50 feet wide because invariably
An 10 or 15 years the people want to dedicate the road to the Town
. and have theTown Maintain them.
The water supply and drainage in the area was discussed
at some lenghth. Mr.; Aurichio felt he would be aiding the
drainage probF�ems in the area. The water table in the area was
also discussed.
Mr.- Aurichio was finally advised that the should have
a new map drawn. - Each lot must have 100 foot- frontage or more;
there must be a 50 foot road; and the small lots will have to
be approved by the Suffolk' County Board of Health.
Mr. Rene Gendron and James Olsen appeared before the Board
in regard to the subdivision to be known as Vista Bluff. Mr.,
Samuel Grimes,- Esq. , attorney for' "Birch Hills at' Cutchogue" was
also present. The chairman advised that a letter of approval of
the highway layout was needed. Mr. Grimes stated that the
layout of Vista Bluff had created two corner. lots in Birch Hills
at-Cutchogue, and he felt this lowered the value of these lots.
The' Chairman advised that corner lots are considered to be 25/
more valuable, however Mr. Grimes did not feel this held true
in Birch Hills at Cutchogue. Mr. Grimes stated that the map
of Birch Hills at' Cutchogue showed a park and playground area
as their lots did not go down to the highwaizer mark. He was
concerned with the 15 foot right of way shown on the map of Vista
Bluff. He felt this might appear to some people as a sidewalk
to the park and playground area in Birch Hills. The Chairman
felt there should not be too much difficulty.
SoutImId Town PlanningBoard -3- December 19, 1967
Mr.- Leander Glover was, also present and the Chairman asked
him.-how near the plan the roads were done in Birch Hills at
Cutchogue.. He stated the road is about 8 feet from the boundary
line. Mr.- Dean Stated he wanted the two roads to connect unless
one wants to have a private road, but if they are going to be
Town roads they must be connected. Mr. Grimes stated they may
want to keep the roads in Birch Hills at Cutchogue private for
awhile. The' Chairman advised this is okay. , All Mr. Grimes
needs to do is put a wall across at the end of the road and
there should be no problem.
The Chairman advised Mr., Olsen and Mr. Gendron that he wanted
to know what the problems would be in moving the 15 foot right
of. way to the other side. Mr. Van' Tuyl stated it would mean a
new deed and the title company may take new action. Itwas also
pointed out that Mr.' Vincent already has his foundation for his
house in. The Chairman stated he wants to know all the problems
involved in changing the right of way, before taking any further
action.
Walter, Kapp, Esq. , and George Barzac, Jr.. , appeared before
the Planning Board in regard to the subdivision to be known as
Redwood Park, Boisseau Avenue, Southold, New York. Mr. Barzac
requested permission to build houses on the lots facing on
Boisseau Avenue in order to finance the building of the road.
He would like to build on lots number 2,' 17, and 18. The
Chairman advised Mr. Barzac that the Board would discuss this
proposal and write him a letter. He was also addVised that the
Planning Board needs a letter stating the test holes are
Satisfactory. Mr. Kapp submitted the covenants and restrictions
for thelots to be sold in' Redwood Park.
Mr. Robert McCarthy appeared before the Board with a
proposal to set-aside one lot on a 1. 08 parcel of ' land. The
property is known as the Old School property, located in
Bayview. The Chairman advised that Mr. McCarthy could get
four lots out of this areaand for him to mark it out any-way
he wanted to. The Planning Board wants to see what the future
plans for the property are. It is not necessary to file or
record a map, but the Planning Board will have in their files
an overall plan for the remaining property.
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Southold Town .Planning Board -4- December 12, 1967
Mr. William.Wickham, Esq, appeared before the Board with ]
Mr. Warren and Mr. Hallock with a sketch plan for a minor sub
division on property presently owned by Mr. R. B. Grady. The
property is located on the south side' Peconic Bay Blvd. , Laurel.
The property is being purchased subject to the necessary
approval of the Board to subdivide 'it. Mr.. Wickham stated
there would be two lots with 100 foot frontage and one lot with
85 foot frontage. They wish to preserve the driveway just as it
is without changing any lines. There will be a total of five
lots, all of which will be at least 20,000 square feet in area.
It was determined that the driveway will be 20. The possibility
of increasing this to 50 feet was discussed. Th.e' Chairman advised
the applicants to file a formal survey of' the property .and
this will be handled as a minor subdivision.
Mr. Robert McCarthy appeared before the Board agi.n with lots
sketched on the survey. However, he show d five lots instead of
four lots and the Planning Board stated they wanted only four
lots from this parcel.
The Planning Board received the following letter from
Lawrence M. Tuthill:
"December 12, 1967
"Southold Town Planning Board, Southold, N.Y:
"Re: Birch Hills, Cutchogue, N.Y.
"Gentlemen:
"I have inspected the roads of Birch Hills, Cutchogue and
found the roads to meet the requirements of the' Southold Town
Planning Board except to note that the road has not been
connected to Vista Bluff as requested by the' Planning Board.
"Very truly yours, /s/ Lawrence M. Tuthill".
The above letter was placed on file.
Southold Town Planning Board -5 December 12, 1967
The Southold Town Planning Board received from the' Southold
Town Board the original resolution of the' Southold Town Board
in regard to a change of zone on the Town Board's own motion
from "B" Business District to "A"' Residential District, with the
instructions to prepare an official report thereon pur'suant- to
the provisions of Article IX�p Snottm of the Building Zone
Ordinance of the Town of= Southdd.
.This property is located at' Southold, in the Town of
Southold,- Suffolk' County and State of New York, and more
particularly bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at the intersection of the easterly line of
Kenney's Road, with the southerly line of North Sea Drive;
from said point of' beginning running easterly along said
southerly line of North Sea Drive, 183 feet more or less;
thence southerly 550 feet more or less, to the northerly
line of Dogwood Lane; thence westerly along said northerly
line of Dogwood Lane, 285 feet more or less, to said easterly .
line of' Kenney's Road; thence northerly along said easterly
line, 580 feet more or less to the point of beginning.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, .seconded by Mr.- Coyle, it was
RESOLVED that- the Southold .Town Planning Board favorably
recommends to the Southold Town Board the change of zone from
"B" Business' District to "A" Residential and Agricul[ural district
on the above described property.
.The Board finds there is no other business zone in this
immediate vicinity and the parcel in question was zoned business
by error in the original zoning plan.
Vote of' the Board: Ayes:- 'ALL
The' Planning Board received from. the Town Board the legal
papers for the dedication of the road known as Beebe Drive
Extension, located at East- Cutchogue, New York. - .The following
letter was written to the Southold Town board:
"Southold Town Board, 16' South Street, Greenport, New York
"Re: Berme DrivCuntcYioogue, New .York
"Dear' Sirs:
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Southold Town Planning Board -6- December 12, 1967
"We received from your Board the papers for the dedication
of Beebe Drive Extension, East- Cutchogue, New York. We are
holding. this up pending the filing of a sketch plan of this
property by the subdivider. This has never:.come before use
before because approval of access was granted by the Board of
- Appeals under Section 280A of' the New York State Town Law;, and
this has short-circuited our Board. . We feel it is important -
with the new subdivision regulations that we are .informed of
the subdivider' s intentions".
The Planning' Board .received from- Lefferts P. Edson, Esq. ,
a letter in regard to the right of way at Peconic' Homes,
Section II. The following letter was written to Mr. Edson.
"Lefferts P. Edson, Esq. , Main Street, Southold, New York.
"Re: Peconic Homes,, Section II - Right of way
"Dear .'Mr. Edson:
"We have your letter: of November 22, 1967. As far as the
right of way is concerned you assured us at our last meeting
you would have in our hands a statement that you would Ix ovide
for the rik}ht of way .for the property owners immediately to the
north. - On the strenght. of your statement. we released your map
for f!.li.ng. As it turns. out your letter states "will make every
effort to obtain an easement' , and this is not satisfactory.
We are expecting a letter from you stating that you- WILL obtain
an easement. We would prefer to have a recordable instrument
for our- files. In fact, our minutes of November 22, 1967, s lilo
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that you stated -that you .will supfly us with a legal irstrument. "
Mr. Otto Van Tuyl presented a preliminary subdivision map
of- Gardiners Bay- Estates, Section III, East-Marion, New York.
The map showed a parcel of' land still in the name of Gardners
Bay*Co. , Inc. This property was suppose -to have been sold to
another party. The' Chairman advised that the Planning Board is
not willing to allow a narrow strip of unuseable property.
The following letter was written to Gardners Bay- Co. , Inc. :
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Southold Town Planning Board -7- December 12, 1967
"Lois Johnson Thorp, President ,; GARDNERS BAY'COMPANY, INC. ,
120 Rockaway.Avenue, Rockville- Centre, New York.
"Re: Gardiners Bay Estates, Section III
"Dear Mrs. Thorp:
"In reviewing your preliminary map of Gardiners Bay' Estates
Section III, at our regular meeting of the' Planning Board on
December 12, 1967, we find there is a parcel of' land to the
northwest still in the name of- Gardners Bay'Company. . When you
met with the Board you informed us that this property was going
to be sold to another: owner. In fact,. we advised you to do just
that. In. view of the fact that the present. map is not in' accord
with what we have understood, we would like a calrification
before proceeding any further. , It is probable that a letter of
intent will be acceptable, but obviously if there is some change
from our agreed upon lay-out, the Planning Board needs to know
it and the reasons behind it. "
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Unkelbach, it was
RESOMED that the minutes of' the- Southold Town Planning
Board, dated November 21', 1967, be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes-.-ALL
A letter was written to George Barzac, Jr. , stating he
could build on lots 2, 17, and 18, in' Redwood Park, Boisseau
Avenue,- Southold, New York. However, it was pointed out to
Mr. Barzac that title to any of' the three lots could not be
conveyed until such time ans the map of Redwood Park was filed,
in the Office of the Suffolk' County Clerk.
' On motion by Mr. Unkelbad-, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED' that the Southold Town Building Inspector be
authorized to issue building permits for lots numbered 2, 17,
and 18, as shown on the map of the subdivision to be known as
Redwood Park, located on Boisseau Avenue, Southold, New York, and
as shown on the map by Otto W. Van Tuyl & Son,. map dated October
26, 196.7.
y Vote of the Board:' Ayes:- ALL
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Southold Town Planning Board -8- December 12, 1967
The next regular meeting of' the' Southold Town Planning
Board will be held at -7:30 P.M.-, Tuesday, January 16, 1967,
at the Town Office; Main Road, Southold, New York.
The Planning Board will meet with the' Southold Town Board
at 8: 00 p.m. , on Tuesday, December 19, 1967, at the Supervisor's
Office, 16 South Street, Greenport, New York, to discuss a
proposed dredging ordinance.
The' Chairman signed the final subdivision maps on- Sunset
Knolls, located at Matt tuck, Town of Southold, County of
Suffolk and State of New York, owned and developed by Stanley
Sledzieski.
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The' Chairman signed a special a xceptionto go before
the Board of Appeals for permission to obtain a permanent
permit for the sign located at Cliff Tylers Garage, Cutchogue,
New York, in view of the fact the Planning Board has been trying
for 10 years to widen Griffin Street, School- Street- Extension
and North Street to a 60 foot highway.
The meeting was adjourned at 1000 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara C. Dittmann, Secretary
Southold Town Planning Board
OHN WICKHAMe; CHA=RMAN
Southold Town Planning Board -9- December 12, 1967
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The Southold Town Planning Board received from the Southold
Town Board a proposal for amending the Building Zone Ordinance
of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, by adding
thereto a new article to be Article XI, to read as follows:
ARTICLE XI _ SECTION 1100 - Every application. to the town
board, the board of appeals and the planning board for a change
of zone, variance, exception, permission, approval of subdivision
plats or other relief under the provisions of this ordinance
or any law, rule -or regulation pertaining to zoning and planning
shall be accompanied by an affidavit executed by the applicant
and all owners, contract vendees and holders of any beneficial
interest in the property described in such application and- setting
forth the follows:
(a) therame and address of the applicant.
(b) The name and address of the owner of the property described
in the application.
(c) the Name and, address of every individual, partner.ship
and corporation having any interest direct or indirect in the
property described in the application and the nature of such
interest. Without limitation by the enumeration thereof, such
interest shall include a contract vendor, contract vendee, .lessor,
lessee, mortgagor, mortgagee, lienor, lienee, guarantor, assignee,
agent, broker or the holder of any beneficial interest in such
property.
(d) If any such interest in the property is held by a partner-
ship, the name, address and interest of every partner in' the partner-
ship for the last two years.
(e) If any `such interest in the property is held by 'a
corporation the name and address of the officers, directors
and stockholders of such corporation for the past two years.
The provisions of this paragraph shall not- however apply to banking
corporations, public corporations, corporations listed on a
stock exchange or corporations having more than 1, 0000stockholders.
(f) The relationship, if any, of any person named in said
affidavit to any officer or employee of the Town of Southold.
(g) In the event that there is any change in any of the
facts set forth in the affidavit submitted with any application
prior to a final determination of such application, a supplemental
affidavit containing such changes shall be filed with the
appropriate board prior to such final determination.
Southold Town BoardcF Appeals -10- December 12, 1967
SECTION 1101- If any member of the Town Board, planning
Board or board of appeals shall have an interest, direct or
indirect, in the property which is the subject of anyapplication
on file with the board of which he is a member, such member
shall, prior to any determination by said board with respect to
such application, publicly disclose the nature and extent of
such interest by executing an affidavit setting forth in detail
the nature and extent of such interest and fileing the same with
the Town Clerk.
It was RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board favor-
ably recommends to the Southold Town Board the amendment to the
Southold Town Building Zone Ordinance as set forth above. The
Planning Board is in full agreement with theTown Board as to the
reasons why such an act should be passed.