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Southold Town Planning Board
S O UTH O LD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham. Chairman
Henry M oisa
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
William Unkelbach
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
October 19r 1965
A regular meeting of the' Southold Town Planning Board
was held on Tuesday, October 19, 1965, at 7:30 P.M., at
the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: John-Wickham,, Chairman,
Henry Moisa,- Alfred Grebe..- Archibald Young.
Absent: Mr. William Unkelbach (In'Europe on business)..
- Akso present: Messrs: Otto Van Tuy1, Consultant; 'Howard j
Terry, Building Inspector.
Mr. Harold Reese appeared before the Board to,: discuss
Section II of Harbor' Lights Estates. _ The Chairman advised
Mr. Reese that .the Town Board has been consistent in requiring
access on waterfront property. The Chairman also stated that ;
if ' there was a canal dug that thb would be considered water-
front property. The Chairman advised that in this case the
Town Board would require access to the canal. Mr. Reese
stated that they had intentions of digging a canal.
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The-- Chairman further advised Mr. Reese, whereas he had
substantial acreage to develope that the' Planning Board felt they
should not wait too long before requiring the park and play
ground area. Mr. Reese stated that he had the area for
dedication for'-the park and playground area approximately
located. He also stated that the rough road leading to this
area should be completed within thirtyydayss. however, he
stated it might be longer than 30 days. Mr. Van Tuyl will
map out- the specific area to be set aside for the park and
play ground area.
Mr. Reese stated that over a period of. a couple of years
he .intents to' develope three or four sections ,of this subdivision.
The total acreage of this land being subdivided is approximately.
125 acres. .. Seztion Il of this subdivision is to be approximately
25 acres.. . In: Section II,,. Mr.. 'Reese intents to provide parking
area for the residents in the subdivision by the beach. The
' Chairman advised Mr. Reese that-he would like to suggest the
possibility of withholding land on the waterfront to fullfill
the dedication requirements because the Town must'have' access
to waterfront .property. Mr.- Reese stated that he -has already
sold some lots and has given these- people rights to the water
front. Therefore, he will have to look into the legal aspects,
and see to what extent beach rights were given to the people
in the' Subdivision. Mr. Reese stated he had set aside 900 feet
of private beach for the residents in the subdivision.
A very lenghty discussion was 'held on ,the possibilities
of providing the necessary beach front and access to fullfill
the dedication requirements of ' the Town, and still maintain
the 900 feet of private beach for the residents of the. sub-
division.
Mr.. Grebe asked who would own the botbom of the Canal.
Mr. Reese stated that it .was their intention to have the
people form some sort-.of 'association and they would maintain
the canal. The Chairman made reference to Dawn Estates, to
be developed by Bernard and Theodore Kaplan. This subdivision
is also proposing a man-made canal and the' Chairman felt that
Mr. Reese would be interested to know how they intended to
maintain the canal. A copy of the letter from Kaplan is to
be sent-- to Mr. Reese. The Chairman advised Mr. Reese that the!
' Planning Board would like to have a clear and concise statement
in writing, stating who is to be responsible for the canal.
Mr. Reese said he would submit a letter: of .intent in regard td
the maintenance of the canal. Mr. Reese statedihat it has been
. made clear to the buyers of lots that the entrance to the canal
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will be kept open by the subdividers for about two years.
After there are a substantial'. number of property owners in
the subdivision, the carrtlwill be the responsibility of the
property owners..
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the
original petition of Martin' C. Nelsen relative to a change
of zone from A Residential . and Agricultural District to
"B--2" Business District with the instruction to prepare an
official report defining the conditions described therein.
This property is located in Greenport, Town of Southoldsl
- Suffolk County, New Yorks and wounded and described as
follows:
Beginning at the intersection of the southerly line of
Middle Road, with the easterly line of �Moores 'Lanej. from said
point - of beginning running along said southerly line of Middle
Road, three courses: (1) N. 66' 09: 10" E.-96.61 feet; thence
(2) N. 69-° 02' 10" E.-985.10 feet; thence .(3) N. 71° 28: --2 0"
E.-312.64 feet; thence' S. 160 011 50" E.-600.0 feet; thence
S. 69° 203 30" W.-1381.31 feet to said easterly line of 'Moores
Lane; thence along said-easterly line, N. 170 151 00" W.-
600.0 feet to the point- of beginning. Containing 19.303 acres.
. . On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board favorably recommend to
the Town Board the change of zone from "A" Residential and
Agricultural District- to "B-2" Business 'District on the property
of ,Martin-C. Nelsen as described above.
The Planning Board has had conference with the attorney
for Mr. Nelsen and with his engineer. The' Planning Board
feels that they have some very promising plans for this
property and we feel that it will be a very real asset to thej
Town of :Southold.
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Vote of the Board:' Ayes:-Mr. Wickham= Mr. Moisa, Mr. Young,
Mr. Grebe.
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On motion by Mr. Grebe, seconded bI Mr. Moisa. it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the ' Southold Town' Planning
Board dated October 5, 1965, be' approved as corrected.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Wickham,,. Mr. Moisa, Mr. Youngs
Mr. Grebe.
The next-.meeting of the' Southold Town ' Planning Board
will be held on November 9s 1965,. at 7:30 P.M--, at the Town
Office, Main Road,- Southold, New York.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Youngs it was
RESOLVED that a letter be written to Raymond and May
Associatea' and to-Cornell University requesting a study to
be made of preferential assessment of open spaces,, -including
farm land.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Wickham,, Mr. Moisa, Mr.Young',
Mr. Grebe.
The meeting was adjourned at. 9:10 P.M.
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Respectfully submitted,
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Barbara C.. Dittmann,, Secretary
T%L WICKHAMs CHAIRMAN
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