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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-11/02/1979-S Southold Town. Planning Board i SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 119 71 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wickham, Chairman Henry Molsa Alfred Grebe Henry Raynor Frank Coyle M I N U T E S SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD November 2 , 1972 There was a Special Meeting of the Southold Town. Planning Board with the Southold Town Board on November 2 , 1972 , at 7 : 30 p.m. , at the Supervisor' s Office, 16 South. Street, Greenport, New York. There were present: Messrs. John Wickham, Chairman; Henry Moisa, Vice Chairman; Henry Raynor; Frank Coyle . - Planning Board. Supervisor Albert Martocchia; Councilman James Homan; Justice Louis M. Demarest; Justice Martin Suter (8 :45 p.m. ) Town Board. Also present: Howard Terry, Building Inspector. Mr. Terry presented the map .of Lands End Subdivision at Orient, which is to be set up for a final hearing. A bond of $100,000 was recommended tothe Town Board and final Southold Town Planning Board - 2 - November 2 , 1972 maps are being prepared by Van Tuy.l & Son. The map has preliminary approval of the County Planning Commission. There was discussion as to requiring cash payment in lieu of park and playground. Mr. Wickham said the Planning Board requires the equivalent ' of one, lot for each 50 lots . It was discussed changing this to one lot for each 25 or 30 lots. The Town Board will require one half acre for a recharge area to be taken from lots #15 and #16 . The roads will be regraded . so the water will run to the recharge area. The area is to be dedicated to the Town. Supervisor Martocchia said drainage in some subdivisions is inadequate or , it is underdesigned. Mr. Wickham .reported that -on some maps the engineer did not mark ,.and locate the catch basins and they were not put in. The Highway Specifications call for catch basins and leaching pools and the bond calls for them, but the map does not show them. The Planning Board says as long as they are covered .by the bond they have to be put in. We will not recommend release of the bond until they are put in: There .was discussion of the roads in Shorecrest Subdivision. Justice Demarest questioned putting the entrance on the west end. Mr. Terry said the County wanted it there. There was also discussion as to changing the Highway Specifications to require leveling and sowing the roads with some type of ,cover before .the roads are put down.. On flat lands with a dip in the road it .would be better to 'get a piece of land for recharge rather than a basin. Mr. Wickham said another way of doing this- is using a diffusion well where the elevation is 20 or more. feet above sea level. It is similar to a leaching basin but it is down to water. Mr: Wickham asked for permission to get the specifications from East Hampton Town and try this method, specifically for Blue Horizons Subdivision. The proposed major subdivision for Pebble Beach Realty on Francisco property at East Marion was discussed. Southold Town Planning Board - 3 November 2 , 1972 Mr. Wickham said it is strictly residential with a sewer plant and average 3/4 acre lots. They propose approximately 250 lots. Mr: Terry said .he, had talked to Ray Dean about the roads and he .indicated he did not want cul de sacs and he wanted .more cohnecting roads off to the east. Mr... Wickham said the Planning Board told the developers that- the lots along the, Sound bluff would have to be much deeper due to erosion along the bluff. Supervisor Martocchia inquired about the frontage . of some of the lots and Mr. Terry said the new Ordinance requires 135 feet at the building line. Mr. Wickham said the Planning Board also told them there should be more green belting. The walkways would belong to the property owners association. They were also told about_ putting in a ;spur . for the proposed road along the Sound. The Planning Board .is going to send the map to the Soil and Water Conservation District. It was- reported that William Esseks, Esq., , was before. the Planning Board in regard to putting condominuims on 22 acres. on Tuckers Lane Southold. They want to put up four units per acre. After discussion it was the opinion of the Town Board that the Master Plan, recommending only one area of this type in Southold, Mattituck and adjacent to Greenport, be followed. Since there is a change of zone to M-1 in Southold and one . in Greenport for multiple housing, the ' Town Board is not favorable to another one in Southold. The roads in Harbor Lights Subdivision were discussed. The roads must meet the . specifications they were bonded . for. Justice Suter said he would write a letter to the developer stating the requirements of the Town. Southold Town Planning Board - 4 November 2 , 1972 . Supervisor Martocchia said he had received a letter from Edward G. Abitz in regard to the roads in Deep Hole ,Creek Estates. . The .following letter was sent by the Superintendent of Highways in answer: Dear Mr. Abitz: At the Town Board meeting held on October. 24 , 1972 , at the Supervisor ' s Office in Greenport, New York. it was the unanimous decision of the Town Board that in order for any roads to be accepted by the Town of Southold the roads must be brought up to date with the present town 'specifications and also that $40, 000. 00 Assessed Building Valuation per mile or .pro rated be met. Mr. Howard Terry, Building Inspector for the Town of Southold may be contacted at the Town Clerk ' s Office, Main .Street, Southold, New York 11971 for any specifications that you may nddd. Very truly yours, Raymond C. Dean Sup 't of Highways Mr. Wickham reported that Mr. Uhl, owner of Orient-.By- The-Sea Subdivision has agreed to abandon part of the subdivision and ,refile. This is the - section bounded by Ryder Farm Lane and Plum Island Lane. They will be one acre lots. After discussion . Supervisor Martocchia said he would talk to Mr. Tasker ' about amending the ordinance. There was discussion about the roads in Laurel Country Estates . Justice Demarest said the Town won' t take the roads unless they can drain them. If they comply with the bond we have to release it but we ..don't have' to accept dedication of the roads . , Supervisor Martocchia said he sent the owner a copy of the letter the Town Board received from the property owners association. Southold Town Planning Board - 5 - November 2 , 1972 The Town Board reviewed the proposed map of property owned by Russell Case et al at Cutchogue. This is a proposal for cluster development. There is no provision for cluster housing in, the Ordinance. It would have to be a contract with the Town Board. Mr. Raynor said the Planning .Board has informed Mr. Case they would .not accept any more minor subdivisions on the property. Mr. Wickham said the low land would be tied up. The Town Board will not consider the map until Mr. Case delineates exactly what he wants to do, but they would be receptive to the proposal. Mr. Terry said Lefferts P. Edson . sold lots in Highwood Subdivision before the roads were finished and now the property owners don't want the roads graded on their property. It was - decided that they must comply to the 1968 specifications which they are bonded for. , Mr. Terry said Soundcrest Woods, Section 2 is ready for a final approval. There was discussion about removing original files from the Town Clerk ' s office . The files are not to be removed unless they are to be used for a hearing. There was some discussion as to proposed amendments of the Highway Specifications and Subdivision regulations. 1. a Southold Town Planning Board - 6 - November 2 , 1972 There will be a Special Meeting of the Planning Board and Town Board on November 20 , 1972 , at the Supervisor ' s Office, 16 South Street, Greenport, at 7 : 30 p.m. The meeting was adjourned at 10 :30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Terri Lee Elak, Secretary Southold Town Planning Board John Wickham, Chairman Southold Town Planning Board