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Southold, N.Y. 11971
HENRY E.RAYNOR,Jr.,Chairman TELEPHONE
JAMES WALL 765-1938
BENNETT ORLOWSKI,Jr.
GEORGE RITCHIE LATHAM,Jr.
WILLIAM F.MULLEN,Jr.
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held at
7 :30 p.m. , Monday, July 19, 1982 at the Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York. Present were:
Chairman Henry E. Raynor, Jr.
Member G. Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Member William F. Mullen, Jr.
Member Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Building Administrator. Victor Lassard
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept John Davis '
report 4228, thus approving the temporary access road to lot #10
within the subdivision known as Sea-Aire Estates, located at
Mattituck, and said access to be maintained at or-above its present
state.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend compliance
with John .Davis ' report #k230 for approval of the access road to lot
number one, within the subdivision known as David L. Gillispie, lo-
cated at East Marion, and such recommendation be forwarded to the
Building Department for their referral to the Builder.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
pg. (2) 7/19/82
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED to set 7 :30 p.m. , August 2 , 1982 , at the Town Hall, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a public hearing
on the question of the approval of the minor subdivision of Joseph
and Edwina Hataier, located at Orient.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made 'by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED to. set 7 : 45 p.m. , August 2 , 1982, at the Town Hall, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a public hearing
on the question of the approval of the minor subdivision of James
Manos, located at Mattituck.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED to set 7 :30 p.m. , August 30, 1982 , at the Town Hall, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a public hearing
on the question of the approval of the minor subdivision of New York
Telephone Co. , located at Greenport.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Or.lowski
On motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED to set 7 : 45 p.m. , August 30, 1982, at the Town Hall, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a public hearing
on the question of the approval of the minor subdivision of Vincent
Annabel, located at Cutchogue.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
pg. (3) 7/19/82
On motion made by Mr.. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED to set 8 : 00 p.m. , August 30, 1982 , at the Town Hall, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a public hearing
on the question of the approval of the minor subdivision of Annette
Zabohonski, located at Fishers Island.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED to set 7 :30 p.m. , Monday, August 2 , 1982 for the next meeting
of the Southold Town Planning Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED to set 7 :30 p.m. , Monday, August 30, 1982 for a regular
meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
The Board discussed the annual meeting of the Town to be held on
Fishers Island, August 18, 1982 and instructed the secretary to con-
tact Jim Wall for further information regarding the agenda of this
meeting.
Sebastian' s Cove - Mr. Richard Lark, Esq. met with the board to dis-
cuss this proposal . Mr. Raynor noted the recharge area was not in-
dicated on the map and stated Raymond Dean, Superintendent of Highways
had no objection to the offset of the road within 50 feet. Mr. Raynor
advised Mr. Lark of the following:
1 . ) The offset to be witnin the 50 foot right-of-way.
2 . ) Recharge of some description is necessary.
pg. (4) 7/19/82
3 . ) A planting schedule be obtained from Soil and Water
Conservation for the east side of the right-of-way,
due to the severe stripping in this area.
Mr. Raynor asked Mr. Lark to supply the board with information stating
the roads would not be dedicated to the town at any future date and
revisions on the map should indicate this proposal as Section II .
Moebius Associates - The board permitted Mr. Lark, Esq. to discuss
breifly the status of this subdivision. Mr. Raynor advised Mr. Lark
that the board did not approve the layout of this subdivision, in
particular the flag lot configuration. Mr. Lark stated such redesign
would cause encroaching on cesspools and sewerage. The board stated
they would rather the applicant' s make two lots instead of the three
proposed for this area. Mr. Lark stated he would like the board to
send him a letter stating such. Maps will be redesigned for submittal
at a future meeting.
Charles M. & Kathyrn B. Nelson - Mr. Rudolph Bruer, Esq. discussed this
proposal with the board, stating the subdivision proposed is consistant
with the area. He stated the parcels merged when placed in a family
trust, something that was a mistake and should never have been done.
The board stated they would field inspect this property prior to the
next meeting.
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that whereas, a formal application for the approval of a
subdivision plat entitled PUDGE CORP. , located at Southold, was
submitted to the Planning Board on March 22 , 1982 and, an application
fee of $100 was paid on March 25 , 1982 , and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on said subdivision application
and plat at the Town Hall, Southold, New York, on June 28 , 1982 at
7 :30 p.m. , and
WHEREAS, the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town
of Southold have been met by said subdivision plat and application,
NOW, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of PUDGE CORP.
for approval of said subdivision plat prepared by Roderick Van Tuyl,
P.C. , dated March 8, 1982 , be approved , and the Chairman be authorized
to endorse approval on said subdivision plat subject to the following
conditions :
pg. (5) 7/19/82
1 . No lot shall be resubdivided nor shall application be
made to the Planning Board or the Town of Southold for
resubdivision of any lot. This provision shall run in
perpetuity.
2 . All driveways on Middle Roag shall make an angle of at
least 700 and preferably 90 with the county road if
the driveway is to serve as both entrance and exit.
3 . No driveway or entrance road on Middle Road and Horton' s
Lane shall be located within fifty feet of the ends of
the property line at the intersection having the course
of 790 37 ' E. and a distance of 34 .78 feet.
4 . Each lot having frontage on Middle Road shall have a
turnaround provision, such as a T-shaped shunt, so that
a vehicle leaving a lot will not have to back out into
the traffic stream on the road.
5 . All stormwater runoff resulting from the development and
improvement of this subdivison or any of its lots shall
be retained on the site by adequate drainage structures
so that it will not flow out into the right-of-way of
Middle Road.
6 . Since the commercial development of this parcel can have
an adverse impact upon the county road a coordinate access
and parking plan shall be developed for this site. This
plan shall be binding upon future lot owners to insure
proper access to each lot and between lots so that vehicles
will not have to reenter the county road to go from one
lot to the other. In lieu of the parking plan an easement
shall be required so that when the parking areas are de-
signed in the future each lot will be interconnected.
7 . The above conditions shall be filed as covenants and re-
strictions in the office of the County Clerk on or prior
to the granting of approval of this subdivision.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that whereas, a formal application for the approval of a
subdivision plat entitled Stanley & Louise Gould located at Cutchogue
was submitted to the Planning Board on March 17 , 1982 and, an.
application fee of $75 was paid on May 24 , 1982, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on said subdivision application
and plat at the Town Hall, Southold, New York, on June 28 , 1982 at
7 : 45 p.m. , and
Pg• (6) 7/19/82
WHEREAS, the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town
of Southold have been met by said subdivision plat and application,
NOW, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of Stanley &
Louise Gould for approval of said subdivision plat prepared by
Roderick Van Tuyl, P.C. dated May 19 , 1982 , be approved and the
chairman be authorized to endorse approval on said subdivision plat
subject to receipt of three copies of the final map.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Herodotus Damianos - It was the concensus of the board to reserve
decision on this subdivision as the recommendations from the Suffolk
County Planning Department have not been received.
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that whereas , a formal application for the approval of. a
subdivision plat entitled Sal & Benny Caiola, Jr. , located at.
Greenport was submitted to the Planning Board on April 14 , 1982
,and, an application fee of $50 was paid June 8 , . 1982 , and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on said subdivision application
and plat at the Town Hall , Southold, New York, on June 28 , 1982 at
8 : 15 p.m. , and
WHEREAS, the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town
of Southold have been met by said subdivision plat. and application,
NOW, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of Sal & Benny
Caiola, Jr. , for approval of said subdivision plat prepared by
Roderick Van Tuyl , P.C. dated June 4 , 1982 , be approved and the
chairman be authorized to endorse -approval on said subdivision plat
subject to the following conditions , within six (6) months- from date
of resolution:
1 . Compliance with those conditions stated. in the Suffolk
County Planning Department' s resolution dated July 9,
1982 .
2 . Covenants and Restrictions filed with the ,County Clerk
stating no further subdivision will be made on the over-
sized parcels .
pg. (7) 7/19/82
3 . A structural plan for the stairway to the beach to be
submitted for approval by the Planning Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Charles P. Ziegler - The board made a field inspection on this property
and were in agreement that the lot lines were insufficient due to the
low area on lot number one. It was the concensus of the board to re-
quest the attorney for the applicant to revise maps by moving the lot
lines .
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare itself lead
agency in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in
the matter of the minor subdivision of Charles P. Ziegler, located at
Mattituck. An initial determination of nonsignificance has been made .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare itself lead
agency in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in
the matter of the minor subdivision of William C. & Particia Blake,
located at Peconic. An initial determination of nonsignificance has
been made.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve a set-off
( 106-13) as designated on the minor subdivision map of William C.
Blake, located at Peconic, dated June 4 , 1982 upon completion of
the State Environmental Quality Review Act.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
pg. (8) 7/19/82
Bay View Ventures Ltd. - Mr. David Saland, Mr. Howard Young, and the
applicant met with the board to discuss this proposal. The board in-
spected this property prior to the meeting and stated it was the con-
census of the board that the proposed area is acceptable, however,
the ingress and egress should be moved approximately 30 feet along
New Suffolk Avenue as the board would like as much distance possible
from the curb. The board informed the applicant that the Superinten-
dent of Highways would like to speak to those involved about the
utilization of blacktop and po ible waiver in width in lieu of the
oil road. The board asked tha Met again so that information can be
sent to the Highway Committee.
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the sketch map
of the major subdivision entitled Bay View Ventures, Ltd. , dated
March 5 , 1982 and amended June 14 , 1982 , located at Mattituck.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
John Miesner, Jr. - A field inspection was made on this property prior
to the meeting.
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare itself lead
agency in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in the
matter of the minor subdivision of John Miesner, Jr. , located at
Cutchogue. An .initial determination of nonsignificance has been made .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the sketch map
of the minor subdivison entitled John J. Miesner, Jr. , located at
Cutchogue, dated March 10, 1980.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
North Fork Bank & Trust Co. - The board field inspected this site
July 16 , 1982 . Ms. Abigail Wickham met with the board to discuss this
proposal . It was the concensus of the board to deny the location of
the proposed site as submitted due to potential problems with traffic
flow and congestion. The board suggested three alternate locations ;
A and C being the most favored by the board.
pg. (9) 7/19/82
(A) Southeast corner which would require a curb cut
for egress only.
(B) The west end as initially proposed
(C) The northwest building, using ingress and egress
on Factory Avenue
Ms. Wickham stated she would discuss the alternate locations with the
applicant and discuss same with the board at a later date .
Constantine Georgiopoulos - Ms . Abigail Wickham met with the board to
discuss this major subdivision. Mr. Raynor read the Conservation
Advisory Council ' s report stating there was no problem with the property.
Also discussed was the water study submitted to the board by the attorney.
Ms . Wickham stated the applicant' s are agreeable to giving money to the
Town in lieu of Park and Playground. Mr. Raynor noted lot number eight
would require a variance as it is only 100 feet wide.
On motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the sketch
map of the major subdivision entitled Constantine P. Georgiopoulos ,
located at Southold, dated December 28 , 1981 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Orient Point Property (Nicholas Schick) - Ms. Abigail Wickham, Esq. ,
Mr. Buchanon and Mr. Weintraub; Architects , Mr. Bodwell ; Engineer,
and Nicholas Schick; owner of the property met with the board to dis-
cuss the proposed change of zone and development plans for this property.
Mr. Schick has filed an application with the Town Board for a change of
zone from "A Residential and Agrigultural District to "M-l" General
Multiple Residence District on a 45 .8 parcel located at Orient. Mr.
Bodwell explained their intentions of using a reverse osmosis system
currently used in New York and Flordia to remove chlorides from the
water and an infiltration galary to provide fresh water. He noted
drainage problems with rain water and stated they would proceed to
correct this situation thus allowing the water to drain into the
ground rather than evaporate. Mr. Buchanon advised the board their
intentions to restore the Inn and relocate it to the north east section
of the property. The Inn would consist of a conference center, lounge,
restaurant, lobby, kitchen, etc..; the second and fourth floor would be
removed to accomodate the lounge area. Five large buildings are pro-
posed for the westerly portion of the property to give an open space
effect on the property. Two houses would be erected next to the Inn
itself. The board was asked to supply any restrictions they would
pg. ( 10) 7/19/82
impose on the number of units, open space and to provide input from
the town' s point of view so that the interested parties are able to
pursue their goals . Mr. Raynor stated that the board would make an
on site field inspection and should the board proceed they would get
together some draft restrictions with regard to deeding this particu-
lar zone application. The board asked the attorney for the applicant
to supply the board with topo information for review by the board
and referral to the Town Board.
Settler' s at Oysterponds - Mr. John J. Raynor, representing Mr.
Horowitz met with the board to discuss the proposed subdivision of
Settler' s at Oysterponds , located at Orient. The Chairman opened the
discussion with correspondence received from the Conservation Advisory
Council and the New York State Soil and Water Conservation. It was
noted by the Chairman that correspondence to the New York State Soil
and Water conservation, dated May 7 , 1982 , was not answered until the
morning of the meeting; this was a result of an inquiry made by the
Planning Board Secretary, July 16, 1982 . The Chairman reviewed the
comments from the Conservation Advisory Council, noting such recomen-
dations were made prior to Mr. J. Raynor' s submission of revised maps .
The secretary was instructed to send Mr. J. Raynor a copy of such
reports if she had not already done so. The Chairman noted a discrep-
ancy in the depth of the water table; Mr. J. Raynor states on the
assessment form a depth of four to seven feet, and the New York State
Soil and Water Conservation has determined it to be two feet. Mr. J.
Raynor stated because there are existing ponds on this parcel of prop-
erty and considering where the tests were done, in reality it should
be zero. He also stated objection to the Soil and Water Conservation
trespassing on the property and doing studies without permission from
the owners . The Chairman advised Mr. J. Raynor that never before did
anyone object to such actions taken by the board,or by other agencies ,
and stated that it would be noted in the minutes if at any such time
further studies should be necessary, Mr. J. Raynor' s office would be
contacted for permission to enter the property before pursuing such
information. The Chairman requested Mr. J. Raynor to complete Part
II and III of the Environmental Assessment Form and submit it to the
board. Mr. Raynor stated that through his experience with Shelter
Island and various other experiences , Part II and II should be com-
pleted by the Planning Board as the information requested pertains to
them. He stated this proposal has been before the board since February;
all recLuaTts of the board have been met and it was time for the board to
give sketch approval . Because of possible water problems on this
property, the Chairman stated he was not ready to give the owner a
vested interest by giving such approval, nor did he want to predigious
this piece of property. . The Chairman polled the board for their com-
ments regarding sketch approval; each board member stated they were
not ready to give sketch approval on this proposal. After a brief dis-
cussion with his clients , Mr. J. Raynor insisted that the board give
pg. ( 11) 7/19/82
him a vote for the approval of the sketch map. The Chairman asked
the board if they would entertain a motion for the approval of the
sketch map of Settler' s at Oysterponds, located at Orient; hearing
no motion, the Chairman declared the motion lost. The Chairman
stated the board wanted documentation with regard to the test holes
as the Department of Health indicated potential problems with this
development. Mr. J. Raynor advised the board that he would submit
these results at preliminary approval; under Article IV A106-40
(Documents to be Submitted, , Sketch Plan) such information is not re-
quired of the board. The Chairman stated such information has been
requested under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. At this
time Mr. J. Raynor stated he was in possession of a letter, signed
by the Chairman, stating "an inital determination of nonsignificance
has been made" . The Chairman noted a copy of the letter in the file,
dated April 28, 1982 , and stated such action was taken by the board
prior to the receipt of the Environmental Assessment Form which states
differently. Mr. J. Raynor asked for input from each board member.
Mr. Mullen stated that he would like to go on record in opposition
to giving sketch plan approval as he had not had an opportunity to
review correspondence from the Soil and Water Conservation due to
receiving it that evening and stated the water situation is a very
critical problem that needs to be looked into.
Mr. Orlowski asked Mr. Raynor if he would give the board the results
from the water tests done on this property. Mr. J. Raynor said the
reports would be discussed with his clients . Mr. Orlowski said such
information would be very helpful for the board in making a deter-
mination.
Mr. Lathams�ated his concern with the development of this property
and what impact the cesspools would have on Hallock Bay and the shell-
fish. He advised Mr. J. Raynor that he would not act on such a pro-
posal until all reports were studied.
Mr. J. Raynor asked that this matter be placed on the August 2 , 1982
agenda and because his attendance is required at the meetings on
Shelter Island the last Monday of each month, he asked the board to
consider this. when scheduling this proposal in the future.
The Chairman recessed the meeting for five minutes .
Ruth Oliva and Mrs . Burke addressed the board for input on the board':s
statement to the Town Board not to impose a moratorium on major sub-
divisions . The board stated they would not predigious applications
to subdivide and stated the base information on the Master Plan Update
would be completed in six to eight months. It was stated by the board
that although Major Subdivisions are approved, it does not necessarily
pg. ( 12) 7/19/82
mean 100% development on the property. The secretary was instructed
to supply Ms . Oliva with a copy of the proposed Master Plan Update.
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare itself lead
agency in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in
the matter of the minor subdivision of George Boehle, located at
Mattituck. An initial determination of nonsignificance has been
made.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve a set-off
106-13 as designated on the map of George Boehle, located at
Mattituck, dated June 14 , 1982 subject to completion of the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, and receipt of the filing fee in
the amount of $50.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare itself lead
agency in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in
the matter of the minor subdivision of Theodore P. Swick, located
at East Marion. An initial determination of nonsignificance has
been made.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve a set-off
106-13 as designated on the map of Theodore P. Swick, located at
East Marion, dated November 24 , 1970 and amended May 20, 1982 , with
a condition that the right-of-way be expanded to a width of 25 feet
on lots one and two.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
pg. (13) 7/19/82
Edward N. Cartnick - It was the concensus of the board to field
inspect this property prior to the next Planning Board meeting. No
action was taken on this proposed minor subdivision.
Frederick E. Bossert - It was the concensus of the board to field
inspect this property prior to the next Planning Board meeting. No
action was taken on this proposal .
Country Club Estates - It was the concensus of the board to field
inspect this property prior to the next Planning Board meeting and
review the covenants and restrictions contained in the file of the
major proposal under the same name. No action was taken on this pro-
posal .
Nalbantian. Bros . - It was the concensus of the board to field in-
spect this property prior to the next Planning Board meeting. _ No
action was taken on this proposed major subdivision.
Zoning Code Amendments - The board reviewed and discussed the pro-
posed amendments to the Zoning Code, as stated in the Town Attorney' s
letter of June 23 , 1982 . It was the concensus of the board to re-
quest that the word "detached" be deleted from the sentence as
written; this refers to page 5 , XXIV amendment to the first sentence
of the first unnumbered paragraph of Section 100-136 (Cluster Devel-
opment) .
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the access
to lot number four located within the subdivision known as Baxter
Properties, Inc. situated at Mattituck, based on John Davis ' report
#231 and said access to be maintained at or above its- present state.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
pg. (14) 7/19/82
Being no further business to come before the board, Mr. Mullen made
a motion to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, and carried. Meeting
adjourned at 10: 20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan E. Long, �Seretary
Southold Town Planning Board
Henry E. 4ynor, Chair ' n
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTHOLD TOWN CLERK
DATE'?1Q6 I8a HOUR A ' 49P N
To Clerk, toi 00 o d