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Southold, N.Y. 11971
(516) 765-1938
A regular meeting of the Planning Board was held on August -20, 1984
at 7 :30 . p.m. at the Southold Town Hall.
Present were:
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. , Chairman
William F. Mullen, . Jr. Member
G. Ritchie Latham, Jr. , Member
James Wall, Member
Richard Ward, Member
Victor Lessard, Executive Administrator
Mr. Al Fickerson was present to discuss the amended site plan of
The North Fork Bank and Trust Co. , at Cutchogue. Mr. Garrett Strang
had scheduled a pre-submission- conference but was not present
for this meeting. Mr. Fickerson explained that the previously
approved plan called for curbing, but due to the cost of the
curbing, they were requesting .that they be allowed to install a
split rail fence around the property. The Chairman presented
ocrrespondence from the Board of Fire Commissioners of Cutchogue
who own the adjoining property. The Board of Fire Commissioners
were not in favor of the fence due to the fact that in emergencies ,
the trucks moving out of the lot at high speeds may hit the
fence. Mr. Fickerson explained that there must be some barrier
otherwise, people will be using the other property, for parking.
It was the consensus of the Board to request that concrete-
mountable type curbing be put in lieu of the fence to the grass ,
with the fence continuing to the rear of the property._
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board refer the
site plan amendement for the North Fork Bank and Trust Co. , to
the Buidling Department for certification subject to receipt of
six copies of the .site plan indicating concrete, mountable-type
curb, with split rail fence beginning at the grass and continuing
to the rear ofthe property.
Vot e of the Board: Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
academy Printing: set-off located at Southold. It was the consensus
of the Board that prior to any action, the Board will make a field
inspection of the property.
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J. Katherine -Tuthill-It was the consensus of the Board to conduct
a field inspection onthis property located at New Suffolk prior
to any action. The Board also requested that the property be
staked. Mrs . Tuthill was present for this discussion, and she
indicated tha t an application had been made to the Board of Appeals
for the insufficient area .
Thomas Perillo-Mr. Rudy Bruer,esq. was present for this discussion.
It was the consensus of the Board that prior to any action a field
inspection will be made of this minor subdivision at Matttiuck.
The Board noted that this may be handled as a set-off. Mr. Burer
noted that an application had been made to the Board of Appeals
for the insufficient area.
Mr. Anthony Conforti, esq. and Mr. Thomas Gill, esq. were present
to discuss the major subdivision of Harbor View, this was previously
filed under Bayview Ventures , Ltd. The _Chairman questioned how
far the applicants have come with the Suffolk County Department
of Health Services and Article 6 . Mr. Gill stated that the approvals
were on there way, as well as , the approval of the Department of
Environmental Conservation. The Chairman stated that if these
approvals were not anticipated prior to September 25 , that an
extension would have to be requested due to the time limit `.for
scheduling a public hearing. Mr. Conforti requested an extension
for the record to the time does not. lapse, however, the Chairman
requested that this be done in writing. Mr. Conforti explained
that they were going to the DEC for the entire property so when
the lots are sold the individual lot owners will not have to
obtain any permits . The Chairman told them that this subdivision
map has been reviewed by theinew Town Planner and the Town Engineer
and it was found that with the deletion of the wetlands from
the building lots, several of them are undersized. Mr. Conforti
presented' a memorandum citing court cases where this was challenged
and the courts ruled for the applicant. Mr. Conforti also
questioned the Board' s action as this is not a cluster subdivision
but a standard one, and there is. no provision for deleting wetlands .
Th Chairman quoted from the Southold -Town Ordinance Section 106-36C.
Mr. Gill explained the DEC had flagged all the lots and they had
made field inspections of the site . He went .to say that all the
building .envelopes were set back from the wetlands .The Chairman
said that the memorandum presented would be sent to the Town Attorney
for his review. Mr. Gill said that they would be unhappy to loose
any more lots due to the fact that tfor the Suffolk County Deparmtnet
of Health Services , they had to loose 2 lots for the water treatment
plant. The Chairman also presented correspondence from the Mattituck
Board of Fire Commissioners indicating the number of fire hydrants
and the required gallons per minute. THe attorney's requested a
copy of this letter and stated that they would be happy to comply
to the Fire Commissioners 'request. There was a question as to the
yard hydrants shown on the plan and the attorney' s stated that these
are for- irrigation purposes only.
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On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board , follwoing a field
inspection of the property, refer the site plan of John E. Rempe .
and Stacia M. Rempe for a storage building located at Greenport
dated July 18 , 1984 to the Buidling Department for Certification.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
Ernest Curran- Mr. Samuel Glickman, esq. was present to discuss
the set-off located at East Marion, which was also before the
Board of Appeals for a variance for the insufficient area.
He explained that both lots proposed contained pre-existing
houses which have been there prior-.to;..•-11-941. He also stated
that many of the lots in the surrounding area are as small or
smaller than those proposed. The attorney also stated that
these homes are served with fresh water with there own systems .
The Chairman reviewed the photographs which were 'presented
for the file. It was the consensus of the Board that a field
inspection will be made of the property prior to any actions
or recommendations .
David Brawner-Mr. Brawner was present to discuss this minor
subdivision at Orient whcih received approval from the Board
of Appeals for the insufficient area of the lots . It wa
noted in the Board of Appeals approval that a. request had
been made for an additional strip- of land to increase the
lot. size.
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr.. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the
set-off of David and Jeanne Brawner located at Main Road,
Orient, subject to the following conditions :
1. Receipt of and filed with the County Clerk covenants
and restrictions indicating no further subdivision of
the remaining lot in perpuity.
2 . Receipt of six (6) original copies of the survey
indicating the additional strip of land on the southerly
side of the parcel to be set-off as per. the Board of
Appeals .approval.
3 . Review of the suffolk County Planning Commission.
Vote of the Board:. Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
Koke and Bertani site plan- The Board reviewed this site plan
for retail establishments located at Southold. Mr. Ward, boardmenber,
had made some suggested changes on the plan Mr. Bertani and .
Mr. Koke were present andthe Board reviewed :these changes with
them. Mr. Bertanin and Mr. Koke were in agreement to these.
On a motion made by Mr. Latham,. seconded by Mr. Mullen it wa
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RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board refer the site
plan of Alexander Koke and John Bertani located at Southold for
retail establishments to the Buil ing Department for certiffcation
subject to reciept of six (6) copies of the site plan with
the indicated changes made .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall , Ward
Penelope and Pasquale Gemma-The Board reviewed the amended site plan
maps for this proposal for a restaurant and gift shop on the Main
Road at Cutchogue. The Board had made a field inspection of the
property.
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board refer the
site plan of Pasquale and Penelope Gemma for a restaurant and
gift shop located at Cutchogue to the Building Department for
certification subject to receipt of 'six (6) copies
of the map indicating asphalt paving and drainage.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall , Ward
280 North Road-This is a site plan for retail stores located at the
North Road at Greenport, formally referred to as the Greenport Mall .
The Board had ma de a field insptecion of the property and it was
the consensus that the applicant be brought in at the next availabe
meeting to discuss the proposal. Mr. Latham, boardmember, commented
onthe bad flooding in this area of the North Road.
Mt. Beulah Acres- Mr. Rudolph Bruer, esq. was present regarding
this approved major subdivision. Mr. Bruer requested that the
Board give consideration to the request of his applicant regarding
the spur road referred to as "Cosden Court" . Mr. Bruer proposed
to dedicate to the Town this road without improvements and offer
cash in the amount of $15 , 00o. for the improvements in lieu of
the performance bond presently held by the Town. Mr. Bruer stated
that the road was indicated on the plan at the request of the
Planning Board to provide access to the rear acreage in case that
ever. came in for a subdivision. It was the consensus of the .Board
to request an opinion from the Town Attorney as to the proceedure
for this and whether or not it can be done . . The Board will also
make a field inspection of the property. It was noted by Mr.
Mullen, Boardmember, that the bond amount is $20, OOO which is
more than the cash offered. -
Brewer Yacht Yard: Proposal to excavate and create new docks-
The Board reviewd this site plan although they did not get to
make a field inspection. It was noted that thet.own Board requested
the DEC to be lead agency and it was the consensus of the Board
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to wait until a 'negative declaration is issued by the DEC with
regard to .the environment prior to any action by the Board.
Reynold F. Blum: Chance of zone- The Chairman, Mr. Orlowski,
read a letter in to the minutes as follows :
Gentlemen: I wish to confirm, in whiting, my earlier
statement on the record, to the effect that I will
abstain from any involvment in connection with the
application of Reynold F. Blum for a change of zone.
Very truly yours,
BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR. ,
Mr. Orlowski then turned the file over the Board,r.member, William
Mullen and .left the room to get a drink of water. .
Mr. Mullen reviewed the file and noted that Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham,
and himself had `made a field inspection of the property. They
indicated that the proposed change of zone would be even .
to the zone-_of -Brawner -:on"the adjacent parcel . Mr. Mullen
read from the . fi.lo that the proposal is made so the applicant
can expand his present business and a s a result two jobs will
be created. The total acreage is 2 .9.
On a motion made by Mr. Wall, seconded by Mr. .Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, following a field
inspection , recommend to the Town Board that! the change. of zone
application of Reynold F. Blum located at. Cutchogue be approved.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
Abstained; Orlowski
Mr. Orlowski then came back in to the meeting.
'Hemblow located at Southold- Mrs . Gail Wickham, esq. was present
for this proposed set-off, of two .acres . The Board . discussed
covenants on parcel No. 2 for no further subdivision inperpuity,
which was agreed to by the attorney.
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Wall it was
RESOLVED THAT following a field inspection, the Southold Town
Planning Board approve the set-off of Ann Hemblo, et.al . located
at Southold dated last amended June 21, ,1984 subject to covenants
and restrictions filed withthe County Clerk as to no further
subdivision of Lot No. 2 in perpuity and review of the suffolk
County Planning Commission.
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Vote of the Board: Ayes-: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
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Sundown Farms located at Mattituck- The Board reviwed this minor
subdivision; the applicants are. Mr: and Mrs . Steifer. Mr. Rudolph
Bruer, esq.. was, present for the discussion. The Board questioned
covenants and restrictions as to further subdivision in perpuity
of lots since they are all over 2 acres. Mr. Bruer stated that
he would be agreeable to covenant and restrict lots 2 ,3 , and 4 only;
and .any further subdivision of lot' l would be restricted to a
minor of 4 lots .with Planning. Board approval. The Board also
questioned the right-of-way which follows a traveled dirt road.
and lies, inside and outside the subdivision. The Chairman
said that thePlanning Board only has jurisdiction over the
part of the road within the subdivision so this could be a
problem. Mr. Bruer presented a. decision from the Board of
Appeals granting conditional approval to a portion of this
right-of-way.. He also stated .that they wanted to imporve
the right-of-way as inexpensively as possible. Mr.. WArd noted
that there is a right-of-way currently running parallel to the
lot line which is totally outside of the subdivision and would
eliminate problems with moving the existing LILCO lines, hwoever,
the attorney expressed his concern with the fact that he is
not sure that his client has the legal right over that road.
The Chairman said that we will, get in .touch with the Town Attorney
in order to. get his opinion on the right-of-way . since it
lies inside and outside the subdivision and there are ftconsiderable
number of LILCO poles which would- have to be moved in order
to comply with the . movement of the right-of-way inside the
subdivision.
Kruse .located at Mattituck- The' Board had made. a second field
inspection. of the property and it was the consensus of the
Board to request that the right-of-way off of Grand Avenue
be widened to 50 ' and extended at a width of 25 ' along the
northerly boundary, parallel to the right-of-way of Fox.
Ricketts located at Mattituck- The Board reviewed this filed
which was inspected by Mr. Mullen.
On a motion made by ,Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Ward it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board re commend. denial
of the application of James and Beulah Ricketts to the Board of
Appeals due to .the considerably undersized lots which would be
created.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wail, Ward
Dr. Mercier: site . plan at Mattituck-The Board reviewed the
notes made on the plan by Victor Lessard. Mr. Lessard indicated
that this site plan was certified.
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ON a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the
sit Eplan of Or. Mercier located at Mattituck for a professional
office as certifed by the Building Department, subject to
receipt of three copies of a site plan which indicates
parking surface,drainage, and screening along the west property
line .
Vote of the Board: Ayes:Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, following a field
inspection, recommend to the _Town Board that the change of zone
application for Horton Construction Co. be denied since the
location is beyond the existing zone line and would not be in
conformance with the surrounding area.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen, Latha, Wall, Ward
Douglas Miller at. Laurel- Mr. Guldi, esq. was present for the
Board's review of this application. Mr. Mark Gross presented
a colored map which was drawn by John Raynor of Watermill indicating
the area around Laurel Lake which is where the subdivision is
proposed. ' Mr. Gross explained that they (Laurel Lake Associatdton)
were concerned with the eco system of the area and the vegatation,
as well as , the animals and birds who habitate the area. He
requested that all trees and vegatation within 100 ' of the water
be left and not removed due to the environmental impact it would
have. Mr.. Gross went on to say that he requested that any building
be done in such a way that the by-products do not run into the
lakq and he also requested that the Board consider his report and
requests . Mr. Guldi, attorney for the applicant, answered Mr.
Gross ' s concerns stating there would be minimum tree removal
they would use buffers , the buildings would be set back as far
as possible, and there would be minimal damage to the environment.
The Chairman stated :that the Board had taken all the environmental
factors intoconsideration, and is aware of the area.- However,
-according to Section 106-36C, the. Chairman explained that the _
_ areas subject to flooding are considered out of the computation, _
therefore, the building area of the lots are `less than two- acres
each so the lots are undersized. Mr. Mullen reviewed the_map
and noted that there was 152,000 square feet of upland and 16210.00
square feet of marshland so of the total acreage betterthan half
of that is marshland, and he recommended that the applicant
create two lots rather than the three as proposed. Mr. Mullen
said this was previously discussed with the attorney. -. Mr. :Mullen,
also, stated that he did not feel that the three lots were compatible
with the surrounding area. Mr. Guldi stated a two lot subdivision
was not economically feasible to the applicant, and that he felt
that the 1/4 acre upland would be one of the largest .lots with
buildings on the lake . - -
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Miller Cont.-Mr. Guldi . disagreed with' the reasoning of the Board
in their denial and the Chairman stated. "that .he would contact
the Town Attorney for -hi-s -opinion regarding this , It was the
consensus of the Board .to hold this application until an opinion
is obtained from the Town..Attorney regarding the deletion of
the wetlands from the buildable ,base of the lots under Section
A106-36C.
Stollmeyer located ,at Southold The Board made an inspection
of " this property and noted that the cottage indicated on the
survey was not actually on the property. Mr. Ward commented
that the lots are very Tow and he did not feel that it was
a good precedent to set-off the low lots .
On a motion made by Mr.Wall, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend that the
Zoning Board of Appeals deny the application of A.M. Stol 1.lmeyer
due to the low area of the lots , since the Planning Board does
not feel it is a good precedent to set-off the lots in low lying
areas .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen; Latham, Wall, Ward
On a motion made by Mr. Wall, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend to the
Town Board that the relief petition of Richmond -Creek Farms,
located at ,Peconic, be denied since after preliminary approval
was granted on Jurel5 , 1982 , the applicant went beyond the 180
days for filing for final approval. Therefore, the Planning
Board. fee.ls it was the applicant who was not diligent in
securing final approval .
Vote of the Board: Ayes :. Orlowski, Latham, Wall, Ward
Abstained: Mullen
Southold Mall site plan, Jim Gray principal- The Chairman
read correspondence from the Southold Town Chief of Police
regarding the ingress and egress. of .the site plan. Chief
Winters ' .correspondence-indicated that he had reviewed the
site and was in favor of the proposed lay-out. , The Chairman
also stated that the new post office is an out parcel on the
plan, however the land was purchased by the government from
Mr. Gray and was never subdivided by the Planning Board. This
was not picked up by the Building Department even though the
post office is under construction due to the fact that the
Federal Government is exempt from building permits . They do,
however, have to get Planning Board approval for the set-off
and Mr. Gray has filed an application with the Board for this.
The Board was in favor of the lay-out and stated that the
situation with the post office should not hold up the site plan
approval.
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On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Wall it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the site plan
of "Southold Mall ' Located at Southold, mapped May 3 , 1984 and amended
June 25,. and August 1, 1984 for the construction of seven retail
stores , one restaurant, and an addition on 'an existing restaurant .
as certified by .the Building Departmett subject to:
l. _ A one-year review by . the Planning Board
Uote of the Boards Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen; Latham, Wall, Ward
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that whereas , a formal application for the approval of a
subdivision plat entitled "Randazzo Building Co. , Inc . " located at
Southold was submitted to the Planning Board on December 14 , 1983
and filing fee was paid February 16 , 1984 ,
WHEREAS, a _ public hearing was held on said subdivision application
and plat at the Town Hall, Southold, New York, on July; 9 , 1584 at
7 :30 p.m. , and
WHEREAS, thesequirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town
of Southold have been met by said subdivision plat and application,
NOW, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of Randazzo Building
Co. , Inc. for approval of said subdivision plat prepared by R. Van Tuyl
with 11.259 acres , last dated March 14 , 1984 , be approved and the
Chairman be authorized to endorse approval on said subdivision plat
subject to the following conditions :
1.. Covenants and restrictions filed with the County Clerk
stating no further subdivision of Lot No. 4 in perpuity.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: orlowski, Mullen, Lathaml, Wall, Ward
ON a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that whereas , a formal application for .the approval of a
subdivision plat entitled "Charles S. Witherspoon" located at
Southold was .submitted to the Planning=Board onMarch 20, 1979
and, application fee in the amount of $20 was paid on A it 13 , 1979
and
Whereas , a public hearing was 'held on siad subdivision application
and plat at the Town Hall, Southold New York, on July 9 , 1984 at
7 ;45 p.m. , and
WHEREAS, a 11 the requirements of the Subdivision Regulationsof the
Town of Southold have Ineen met by said subdivision plat and application,
NOW, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of "Charles S .
Witherspoon" for approval of said subdivision plat subject to the
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followin g conditions within 60 days from the date of this
resolution:
1. Covenants and restrictions filed with the County Clerk
stating no .further subdivision for the unnumbered lot west of
Lot No. 1 in the subdivision.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
August Acres major subdivision at Southold- The Chairman read
correspondence from the Town Attorney regarding the approval
onthis subdivision and the applicant' s request for an extension
and a re-approval. "Dear Mr. Orlowski: This letter is in response
to .your letter to me of August 13 , 1984 relative to the above
mentioned subdivision, wherein you have requested ,by opinion as to the
manner in which the Planning Board should proceed with this matter.
It would appear from the information which you sent me that on
June 27 , 1975 , the Planning Board granted conditional final approval
of the subdivision map. It would also appear that the conditions imposed
on such final approval have not been complied with by the applicant.
Section A 106-24 F (2) of the Rules and Regulations for the subdivision
. . of land provides, in part, as follows : "Conditional approval of a
final plat shall expire within 180 days after the date of the
resolution granting conditional approval unless such requirement
has been certified as being completed. " A similar provision is contained
ins Section 279 Subdivision 4 of the Town Law. By reason of the
foregoing, it is my opinion that the final approval of the
subdivisionmap expired 180 days after the resolution conditionally
approving the same since the applicant did not, within such time ,
meet the conditions imposed. It would, therefore, be my opinion
that the Planning Board must request that the applicant file a new
application for final approval of the subdivisionmap in question
and then the Planning Board can proceed in the normal manner with the
hearing and consideration of the final approval, including the
amount of a bond to guarantee the completion of improvements remaining
uncompleted at this time. If you wish any further information or
wish me to appear before the Board to discuss this matter in further
detail, please so advise me. Yours very truly, Robert W. Tasker. "
On. a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board refer the
Town Attorney' s correspondence to Mr. James Posillico regarding
August Acres, and. the Board will make a field. inspection of the property
prior, to setting a public hearing date .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall,Ward
DEC Memorandum of Understanding: It was the consensus that the
recomendation to the Town Board on this matter be held over
until the Board has had a chance to review same.
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On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, August 27 ,
1984 at 7 :30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall as the next regular
meeting for the Planning' Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Ward it was
RESOLVED that the Southold 'Town Planning Board recommend_ to
grant approval of a building permit within the subdivision of
Qou,ntry Club Estates , Lot No. 32 subject to a 280-a approval
for the access road. This is conditional upon .no certificate
of occupancy being issued until completion of the road as per
the requirements of John W. Davis ' report and a review by
the Superintendent of Highways and. the Planning Board.
Vote of theBoard: Ayes : Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
There was discussion introduced by Gertrude King Reeves as to
the meaning of the term "C & R' s" which is used by the Chairman.
It was noted that this is a term for covenants and restrictions .
There was discussion regarding the condition of the road within
the subdivision of Seettler' s at Oysterponds at Orient. Mr. Latham
reviewed correspondence from Mrs . Wachsberger regarding the
flooding of this road. It was the consensus of the Board to
send correspondence to Mr. Horowitz regarding this and Mr. Latham
stated that he would try to contact Mr. Dean, Superintendent of
Highways .
Being no further business to come before the Board on a motion
made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen and carried the
meeting adjourned at 9 :50 p.m.
espectfully .submitted,
Dial. Schu tze, Secretary
Southold Town _Pl.anning Board
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Bennett Orlowski, Jr. , Chairman
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTHOLD TOWN CLERK
DATE HOUR1a:iaA•M .
Town Clerk, Town of Southold