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Southold, N.Y. 11971
(516) 765-1938
The Southold Town Planning held a. special meeting on April
2, 1984 at. 7 :30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall.
Present were:
Henry E. Raynor, .Jr, Chairman
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.., Member
William F. Mullen, Jr. , Member
Ritchie Latham, Member
Victor Lessard, Building Administrator
7 :30 p.m. Mr.. Lark. scheduled_ a pre.-submission conference for
Brecknock Hall site plan located at Greenport. Mr. Maniello
and Mr. Wolowitz were present to discuss the proposal; Mr.
Maniello is from Land Design, P.C. and he represents the
developer Mr. Wolowitz . Mr. Maniello explained to the
Board that the proposal would have 4 phases , and phase . l
would include the recreation areas and the scenic easement.
Mr. Maniello further explained that the ,proposal would
include 350. cluster units on the property .cons.isting of
ranch and townhouse type -buildings . Mr. Raynor questioned
whether the buildings will. be in accordance with the building
code and Mr. Maniello told the Board that in every respect,
the ordinance will be followed as to :hegth, width and length..
Mr. Raynor brought. up the question: of the relief Mr. Maniello
is seeking on the set-back. along the 'bluff. Mr. Maniello had
indicated that some of the buildings along the bluff would
be set back. 100'. . Mr. Raynor had stated that no proposal
in the Town had been given relief since the Board was very
concerned with bluff erosion. Mr. Maniello mentioned that
he had been in touch with the Suffolk .County Planning
Commission and. since the Commission is only an advisory board.,
the Southold Town Planning Board can overrule their decision
with a majority plus one basis . Mr. Maniello then submitted
plans to the Board on an anaylsis of the bluff area which was
a result of a bluff study. Mr. Maniello explained that there
are 63 units within close proximity to the bluff, 29 are beyond
the 100 ' set back, 34 are within the 100 ' set back, the closest_
one is 50' and the average is 751 . He further explained that
the reasoning behind this was the marketability of .the units
as well as the soil condition which he deemed to be the major
reason for this . He stated that the highest point of the bluff
. was 58 ' while -the lowest was 36 ' . The Board was concerned with
regrading and Mr. Maniello stated that there would be no re-
grading on the bluff and minimal re-grading elsewhere .on the
site . Mr. Latham was concerned that if the bluff erodes , the
Town will be liable to the homeowner who looses property and
Pg (2) 4/2/84
Mr. Maniello explained that this will be a homeowner' s
association, and it may be the one to act in such a situation.
Mr. Maniello said that the buildings will have the potential
for basements and the garages of the units will be built so
that the grade will be the same in order to eliminate some
grading. Mr. Lessard questioned drainage on the property, and
Mr. Maniello explained that all drainage will be collected
inward, there will be no run-off. A1ltthe drainage is for
retention ponds and retention areas that. are -proposed. Mr.
Raynor asked specifically what phase 1 entails . Mr. Maniello
stated that the first phase would be the recreational area
since that will be the office, and he requested that this .
receive approval first since they will want to start work
on this in order to do. a. 'promotion with models.. Mr. Raynor
requested that Mr. Maniello submit the site plan which he
would want approval of first, this would be phase 1 . He stated
that it must conform to the ordinance under the section for
site plans . Mr. Raynor also requested that Mr. Maniello
determine where this project stands with regard to the Village
.of Greenport water. Mr. Maniello said that as of this
date, the Village had not taken any action with regard to
this . Mr. Maniello noted that the proposal for .an office
and model will not have a water or sewage line, only perhaps
a temporary hook-up. The Board requested that Mr. Maniello
submit a site plan for the proposed models and recreation
building showing all details as per the code, and a letter
of clarification from the Village of Greenport stating that
they will supply the water and sewage Mr. Mullen mentioned
that he was very concerned with the average set-back of 75 '
and he said that the Board will request a surety bond in
order that whatever is deemed necessary to prevent bluff
erosion will be done.
Grand View Estates-The Board reviewed the correspondence
from the US Department of Agriculture . Soil Conservation and
VegatatiorService regarding the landscape plans in .order to
prevent further bluff erosion.
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town-Planning Board determine
the cost of implementing the .recommendations of the. Soil
Conservation and Vegatation Service, establish a bond
and then conduct an on-site inspection to determination
the release of the bond, for the subdivision of Grand View Estates
located at Orient.
Vote of the .Board: Ayes : Raynor, Mullen, Orlowski, Latham
On a motion made by-:Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board request that
inspector John W. Davis make an inspection .of the roads with
in the subdiv isicn of Grand View Estates located at Orient
to determine the present condition of the roads and whether
they are acceptable for emergency Vehicles .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Mullen, Orlowski, Latham
pg (3) 4/�./84
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Orlowski it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept Inspector
Davis ' 'report No. 349 within the minor subdivision for Lynn
San Andres located at Mattituck and request compliance with
said report, regarding the access road
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mu llen,. Orlowski
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED .that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday,
May 7 , 1984 at 7 :30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall as the
date and place for a publ_ic 'hearing on the question of
approval of the minor subdivision of Lynn -San Andres located
at Mattituck.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Joseph Shipman-The Board reviewed correspondence founthe Building
Inspector regarding this proposed. site plan. It. was noted
that the correspondence mentioned that this proposal was to
be. a-- retail operation. However, at the applicant's pre-
submission conference of December. 5 , 1983 , he stated that
this was to be a tree service business with no retail sales .
It was the concensus of the Board to _refer this back to the
Building Inspector for certification in light of this fact.
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, ' seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare itself
dead agency with regard to the State Environmental Quality
Review Act for the minor subdivision of Robert and Aldona
Norkus located at Southold. An initial determination of
non-significance has been made.
Vote of the Board:Ayes: Raynor, .Mullen, Latham, Orlowski
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant sketch
approval to the minor subdivision of Robert and Aldona Norkus
located at Southold, sketch map dated February 18, 1983 ..
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Mullen, Latham,Orlowski
t...,,. pg (4) 4/2/84
Stegner-The Board reviewed the Zoning. .Board of Appeals
approval of. this subdivision which contains lots of
insufficient area. The Zoning Board of Appeals considered
this as a set-off and the applicant's attorney requested
that the .Planning Board consider it as such. It was the
concensus of the Board that the Zoning Board of Appeals
furnish all the specifics pertaining to the. application
of Stegner as well as the minutes of the meeting at which ,
approval was granted.
Zoning Board of Appeals Chairman, Gerard Goehringer was
present to advise the Board that he will be requesting the
Town Board to consider hiring a part-time summer worker
to aid the Planning Board Secretary and the Zoning Board
of Appeals Secretary.
Sledjeski-Charles
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board deny the
application for Sledjeski-Charles to set off a parcel located
at Orient since the buildable area of the set-off is less
that 8.0,000 square feet thus creating an undersized ..lot.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Mullen, Latham, Orlowski
It was also noted that the adjacent parcel contains two
existing dwellings, therefore, this piece should contain
160,000 square feet and if the set-off was granted it too
would have insufficient area.
Brickly The Board will make a field inspection of this subdivision
located at Cutchogue.
Wells : The Board reviewed the maps for the proposed set-off
of George Wells located at Southold. It was noted that the
area to the North of the set-off has only 166 ' of road front,
therefore, if this were to be a building lot in the future
it would require a variance. The Board requested that
revised maps .be submitted with the set-off moved South in
order that the adjacent area have 175 ' of road front.
Blower- The Board will make a field inspection of this subdivision
located at Southold.
pg (5) 4/2/84
McKay and Greenly
On a motion made by Mr. Mu'1:'.len, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board deny the application
of McKay and Greenly located at Cutchogue to subdivide into two
lots due to insufficient area.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Raynor, Mullen,Latham, Orlowski
Nicholas Aliano- The Board reviewed correspondence from the
Building Inspector with regard to, this proposed site plan
fora motel located at Greenport. It was the concensus of
the Board to request if the site plan is certifiable under
its present use .
The Board discussed correspondence .from Mr. Rudolph Bruer
regarding his request that we provide a detailed explanation
of the purposes . and uses to -wh. eli the.- inspectionfee , required
under Article II, Sectlon A 106-23 subsection A (2) . of the
Town. Code, are allotted. The Chairman noted that a copy
of this letter has been forwarded to the Town Board and
Town Attorney in order to obtain an allocation of funding
as distributed by the Town Board.
The Board discussed the correspondence from Raymond, Parish,
Pine and Weiner regarding additional payment for meetings
over the contract allottment.
Being no further business to come before .the Board a motion to adjourn
was made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham and carried.
The meeting was, adjourned at 9: 00 .p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
k,aPe M. Aul`tze --Secretar
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Southold Town Planning Board
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.F C�`- irman
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WAIVER OF NOTICE OF PLANNING BOARD MEETING
WE, the undersigned, being members of the Planning Board, of
the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, do hereby
severally waive notice of time, place and purpose of the
meeting of the Planning Board to be held at 7 :30 p.m. at the
Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York on Monday, April 2 , 1984..
. and do hereby consent that the same be held on said date for
the transaction of any business which may properly come before
said meeting.
DATED: April 2 1984
Henry E or, J , h a
Wil iam F. Mullen, Jr.
Geo rRitchip
B nnett Orlowski, Jr.
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