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Southold, New York 11971
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PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 12, 1988
The Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting on
Monday, September 12, 1988 at 7 :30 p.m. at the Southold Town
Hall, Main Road, Southold. .
PRESENT WERE
Bennett Orlowski; Jr. , Chairman
Member William Mullen
Member G. Ritchie Latham
Member Richard Ward
Town Planner Valerie Scopaz -
Planner Melissa Spiro
Secretary Jill Thorp
Building Inspector Victor Lessard
ABSENT:
Member Kenneth Edwards.
.Mr. Orlowski: I would. like ao call this meeting to order. First
order of business is Walter.L. Grabie, Jr.- Public hearing on
the question of final approval for this lot line change. 'This
parcel is located on the Main Road at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-114-11-7.1 & 9. We have proof of publication in the
Suffolk Times and also in the Long Island Traveler/ Watchman..
Everything is in Iorder for a public hearing. I will ask if there
are any objections to this subdivision.? Hearing none, are there
any endorsements to this subdivision? Hearing none, is there
anyone: out there that is neither. pro nor con but may have
information
pertaining to this subdivision that. would be of
interest to the Board? Hearing none, any questions from the
Board? Mr. Mullen? Mr. Latham? Mr. Ward?
Reply of Board: No questions..
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Mr. Orlowski: Ms. Scopaz?
Ms. Scopaz: No.
Mr. Orlowski: Being no further questions, I will declare this
hearing closed and thank you for coming.
Mr. Orlowski: Board to set Monday, October 3, 1988 at 7:30 p.m.
at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold as the time and
place for the next regular Planning Board meeting.
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? A11 those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. The next meeting I would like
to set .for Fishers Island on October 1, 1988.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
. Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Horse Haven- Board to review the map for final
approval. This parcel is on -2.027 acres located at Laurel.
SCTM #1000-125-2-1.24. This was approved by the Board on April
2, 1987 . We. have Health approval and comments from Suffolk
County Planning. On their comments they move to approve it
subject to the filing of these maps. I think we can entertain a
motion to sign these maps subject to that Suffolk County Comment
and receiving mylars.
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any- questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
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Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr,. Orlowski: North Grove Estates. (Greenfield Estates)- Board
to review the Suffolk County Planning Commission report dated
August 23, 1988. Board to set Monday, October 3, 1988 at 7:30
p.m. for a public hearing on the question of . the preliminary
approval for this major subdivision. This parcel is on 46.5712
acres located. at Cutchogue. SCTM #1000-95-4-4.1. Mr. Cuddy are
you representing the .applicant?
Mr. Cuddy: Yes.
Mr. Orlowski: Do you have any problem with meeting these
conditions:?
Mr. Cuddy: I can not tell you, because I have not seen them.
Mr. Ward: We also had a couple of comments about. the road
alignment. We were a little concerned about the right angle, not
being a right angle connection here with this curb. We were just:
trying to. . . Then we were looking to possibly take. . . since
there was a pretty good slope down here, that maybe two of these
lots would go up front.
Mr. . Cuddy: O.K.
Ms. Spiro: And the extension of Old Sattle..:.Lane.. It is just a
tiny little. . . it is marked on there.
Mr. Ward: The extension of that. . .the dedication.
Mr. Cuddy: Can I get a copy of that?
Mr. Ward: Yes.
Ms. Spiro:- We will copy that for you and get a copy of the
comments. to you also.
Mr. Cuddy: It is no problem doing this by October 3, 1989.
Mr. Orlowski: Can you, otherwise we will have to cancel. the
hearing.
Mr. Cuddy.: I will try-and get. it back to you by next week.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. will you make that a motion?
Mr. Ward: So. moved to accept report and set hearing.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
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Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, .Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr'. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered..
Mr. Cuddy: Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: George R. Furse- Board to take action on the
sketch map for this set-off, survey dated and amended April 12,
1988. In your agenda it says November 12, but it is April. Board
to .start the coordination process to determine lead agency and;
environmental significance. This parcel is on 3 .64 acres located
at Fishers. Island. SCTM #1000-9-3-2. The ZBA has granted a
variance. Everything is in order for sketch subject' to C and Rs
stating no further subdivision of lot number one and that the
cottage never be considered a principal dwelling. I .think if we
ask for that everything will be alright. Mr. Edwards is in favor
of that.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. We can do this as an unlisted
action, because .of non-significance.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Robert & Sidney Olmsted- Board to take action on
this ,sketch map for this minor subdivision, survey dated and
amended November 18, 1986. Board to start the Coordination
process to determine lead agency and environmental significance.
This parcel is on 3+ acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-114-7-14. I will . abstain from any voting on this
since Mr. Olmsted is a relative. One of the few I have without
s.k.i. What is the Boards pleasure on sketch?
Mr. Mullen: I move we proceed.
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Mr. Latham: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion.? All those in favor?
Person from audience: Just one question. Has this been approved
by ZBA.
Mr. Orlowski: Yes.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Abstain: Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Noting I abstain. Lead
agency?
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Cove Beach Estates- Board to grant a 30 day
extension, from September 28, 1988 to October 28, 1988, for the
review of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. This parcel.
is on 96 acres located at East Marion. SCTM #1000-22-3-15.1 &
18.3 .
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Walsh Park Benevolent. Corp.- Board to set
October 1, 1988 for a meeting on Fishers Island to make a
determination under the State Environmental Quality Review Act
and to hold a public hearing on the preliminary map.
SCTM #1000-6-2-3.1.
Mr. Latham: Move it.
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Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes:Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Bertram Holder- Board to make a determination
under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. This parcel is
on 34.619 acres located at Ashamomaque. SCTM #1000-57-2-1.1.
Everything is in order for a negative dec. What is the pleasure
of the Board?
Mr. Latham: Move for a negative dec.
Mr. Ward: Just a comment along with that. The reason being that
we are adding substantially to the small lots along the creek
front. We see nothing but a benefit to the overall plan by doing
this.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Motion made and seconded. Any questions on
the motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen; Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Howard Rosenstone- Board to make a determination
under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. This parcel is
on 13 .64 acres located at Cutchogue. SCTM #1000-83-3-2.
Everything is in order for a negative dec.
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board.; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Thomas Shalvey- Board to make a determination
under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. This parcel is
on 13. 64 acres located at Cutchogue. SCTM #1000-84-4-11. All in
order for a negative dec.
Mr. Latham: I' ll move that.
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Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and second. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski.: Katherine Bitses- Board to review the Suffolk
County Planning Commission review dated .September 3 ,. 1987 . Board
to make a determination under the State Environmental Quality
Review Act. This parcel is on 11.8 acres located at Southold.
SCTM #1000-87-5-p/o 2.1.1,21.2. Without reading the report, I
think the Board would request compliance of the Planning
Commission and at this time. it is O.K. to negative dec.
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the. Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Elijah' s Lane Estates, Sections 1,2 & 3- Board
to review the engineer's report, dated September 1, 1988. This
parcel is on 20.345 acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-108-4-7.1. This is O.K. to accept. Section three maps
will now have to be changed to reflect the change in the
drainage. We are taking it out of the open space and Sidney
Bowne said we will be O.K. using the existing drainage that is
there. What is the pleasure of the Board on the report?
Mr. Ward: Move for compliance. with the report.
Mr. Latham: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions to the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen., Latham, Ward..
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Cox Lane Industrial park—Board to start the
coordination process to determine lead agency and environmental.
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significance. This parcel is located on Cox's Lane off CR 48 at
Cutchogue. SCTM #1000-84-1-26.
Mr. Mullen: Mr. Chairman I must refrain from commenting on this
project for possible conflict of interest.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K.
Mr. Latham: I move we start the coordination process.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward.
Abstain: Mullen.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. I think the only other
questions we had on this was the landscaping . and what the
exterior would be on the outside the building.
Mr. Orlowski: John & Joan Polywoda- Board to make a
determination on the final map of this site plan, survey dated
and amended October 28; 1987. This parcel is located on the Main
Road at Southold. SCTM #1000-62-3-2.
Mr. Ward: Move for approval.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: The only comment we had on that was the drainage.
They have to get that drywell in there. We can make it subject
to that.
Mr. Ward: Yes.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Andrew Stype- Board to authorize the Chairman to
endorse the final survey, dated and amended April 11, 1988. This
parcel is located on the Main Road at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-122-7-6. 6.
Mr. Latham: Move it.
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Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr: Ward: I think we can add it into there that there be a. final
drainage review. As it relates to not only this site but to the
adjacent site.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. I' ll entertain a motion to approve and sign
subject to those conditions.
Mr. Ward: Alright.
Mr. Latham: O.K.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion?. All those. in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Fishers Island Country Club- Board to authorize
the Chairman to endorse the final survey, dated and amended July
30, 1988. This parcel is located on Fishers Island.
SCTM #1000-4-4-9..
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham., Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. (four maps signed)
Mr. Orlowski: Brisotti & Silkworth.- Board to send this site
plan, survey dated. September 12, 1988, to the Building
Department for certification. This parcel is located on the Main
Road in 'Mattituck.. SCTM #1000-122-7-p/o6.3 . Everything is in
order. What is the pleasure of the Board.
Mr. Latham: I move we send it.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So .ordered.
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Mr. Orlowski: Marina Bay Club- Board to review correspondence
from Suffolk County Department of- Health Services, dated
September 8, 1988. This parcel is located at New Suffolk.
SCTM #1000-117-8-18. We have two comments.. Without reading the
whole thing; One .is in regard to -water supply alternatives. Two
the application requirements. I would like to .entertain a motion
to accept this report and send it onto the applicant.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward. .
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Raynor, do you know if
this is . an active file?
Mr. Raynor: Yes, it is Mr. Chairman. It is active and on going.
Both recommendations made by the Suffolk. County Department of
Health Services, number one with regard to water supply have
been persued by H2M. Number two the. . .permit required has- been
applied for already, contrary. to any rumor you.may have heard.
The set backs with regard to the one hundred. and fifty foot from
the well casement because we are using a reverse osmosis system
and the fifty foot clearance on the drainage and that is being
addressed by H2M. All of these issues are being addressed and
yes it is on going.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Very good.
Mr. Orlowski: Young' s Marina- Board to make a determination on
the final maps, dated and amended March 23, 1988. This parcel is
located on Sage Blvd. at Greenport. SCTM #1000-57-1-38.3 .
Mr. .Ward: Mr. Chairman, for the record our review of this is
related to the up land of Young' s Marina. The addition of marina
slips is under the jurisdiction of the Town Trustees. In our
environmental review of this plan to expand,the parking area the
Planning Board to O.K. into account the following factors with
regard to the determination to approve this site plan proposal
to expand the parking area. One is the installation of a
drainage system to the parking area. At present, the storm water
runoff tends to discharge directly from the parking area into
the surface water surrounding the marina because of the clay
composition of the soils. The proposed drainage system is
designed to catch and filter the runoff before it discharges
into the surface waters. The system consists of a two foot wide
collection trench and a .catch basin located between the parking
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area and the surface
waters. The trench contains gravel and a perforated pipe. The
pipe and the trench are sloped towards one of two four foot deep
leaching basins. These drainage plans have been modified and
approved by the Town' s engineering consultants. Secondly, the
installation of landscaping', to screen the .parking area from
view. A supplemental landscape plan will include at least the
following elements, which we are going to be requiring:.
horizontal and vertical stringing through a combination of
evergreen shrubs and trees.
With all this in mind it be RESOLVED. that the Planning
Board approve the site plan for this parcel subject dated March
23, 1988 for Young' s Marina subject to the following conditions:
Final certificate of occupancy will not be granted till -the
following have been met:
1. the drainage system has been determined to be
working correctly, that is during construction
should a conflict arise between a location of a
existing sanitary leaching basins and proposed.
drainage in drainage area number two, the
drainage system must be modified in accordance
with the Town Engineer' s recommendations, as
approved by the Planning Board.
2. A supplemental landscape._plan .has been submitted,
which shows a double stagger row of the Hetz
junipers, planted four foot on center and a
series of clustered red cedars between four and
six foot in height within the juniper boarder-.
The plantings are to be placed between the
parking area and the service waters of the marina
and the bay. The drainage system shall lie
between the bumper logs of the parking area and
these plantings.
I would like to move that.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered..
Mr. Orlowski: Gristina Winery— Board to start the coordination
process to determine lead agency and environmental significance.
This parcel is on the Main Road at Cutchogue. -SCTM
#1000-109-1-13.
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Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Thompson' s Emporium- Board to recommend the
issuance of a certificate of occupancy by the Building
Department subject to a one year review by the Planning Board..
SCTM #k1000-63-3-8.
Mr. Mullen: So- moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Sandford Frieman- In Cutchogue. I will entertain
a motion to take lead agency, and do an uncoordinated review.
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Latham: . Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Do you have . any problems with
this Dick?
Mr. Ward: No.
Mr. Orlowski: It is O.K. to send over.
Mr. Ward: I moved we send over for certification, to the
Building Department.
Mr. Orlowski: Do you certify it without Zoning Board approval,
Victor?
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Mr. Lessard: No.
Mr. Ward: I' ll withdraw the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: You can make a motion to send it subject to
approval of a special exception. That is all that it is over
there for.
Mr. Ward: O.K. Subject to the Special exception.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Discussions: Amendment to Chapter A106
(Subdivision of Land)- Board to set Monday, October 3 , 1988 at
7 : 45 p.m. for a public hearing on the question of an amendment
to Chapter A1.06. This amendment deals with the Planning Board's
ability to waive major road specs and substitue alternative road
specs. in major subdivisions where the number. of lots are four
or less, which is a minor.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: A Local Law in Relation to Zoning (Land
Dedication) - Board to make a recommendation to the Town Board
on this Local Law. This is to allow the Town to except the
dedication of the open space in cluster Subdivisions.
.Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I feel that we should recommend approval
of this. I think it is not the intent that every cluster
subdivision would be property that would go to the Town, but in*
some cases where potentially 'well sites are needed, and other
public facilities, it could be taken and used for some of. these
purposes. I think it would provide some flexibility in the
present clustering provisions that we have. Therefore, I move
that we recommend that it be •adopted.
Mr. Latham: Where is the law, is it written.
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Mr. Orlowski: Yes, you have a copy of it.
Mr. Mullen: I did not know it was going .to be on tonight. I have
not had an opportunity to review it. I would like to put it off,
also a liability exposure I would like to look into.
Mr. Ward: O.K. I will withdraw my motion. So we will put it off
till the 3rd?
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. We will put it on hold.
Mr. Orlowski: Daniel Jacoby- Board to discuss this application
with the applicant. This parcel is on 10.5790 acres located. at
Mattituck.
Mr, Jacoby: The .land in question, was bought seventeen years
ago. It was a boys camp that needed repair. Nine small buildings
tumbled down, windows, toilets were thrown around. We slowly
cleaned it up and kept the small house, which was the office. We
fixed it up and that is where we live.
A little bit about my wife and myself, because it has a
bearing on. this. As past president of the Lald Lyman Langdon.
Audubon society. It is probably the largest one on Long Island.
I have been an organic gardening enthusiast for the past forty
years and a member of the Tomato Genetic Society, for thirty five
years. I experiment with them.
We kept the 11 acres wild, no lawns no chemical
fertilizers. We have a huge organic garden which I take care of
myself.
e The meadow is about five acres, woods are the rest. The
meadow is very beautiful. I have photos here, which I would like.
to give you. Visitors come and look at the meadow. They can' t
believe that it exists in Matti-tuck.
Our house is very tiny, real tiny. We thought some years
ago that we would like to build a house, we never did it. We
have three children, many grandchildren. We want to build a
house that could accommodate them.
To put a highway thru the meadow, which the Planning Board
is requesting, it would be sacrilege. Really if you see the.
photo, it would spoil the entire area.
What exists now: We have a hard road around the perimeter.
I have photos here. We have an existing road a continuation of
Sound Avenue to continue on the property.
We also have an agreement on file with your office with
Peconic Homes, Mr. Horton, that they will build a road from
their new road to our present house. The road Peconic is
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building, we are a prisoner of apparently, because you want us
to continue it.
The question that I ask is, how can we build a house for
ourselves, SOON, on the property without a road in the center.
I want to give a picture and other things. A picture of the
meadow. Here are the existing roads and here' is the contract
that they will build a road from this, from his road.
Mr. Orlowski: The question of,the Board is, if you are dividing
this into four lots, how are you going to have access to any of
these lots without a road.
Mr. Jacoby: We have a road around the perimeter.
Mr. Orlowski: But you handed in a survey that shows a proposed
road going through the middle and cul-de-sac' s with four lots.
Mr. Jacoby: That is because the Planning Board insists on it. I
got a letter saying I have to continue Horton' s fifty foot road.
Mr. Orlowski: I don' t see any other way to access your lots. You
want to make four building lots down there.
Mr. Ward: He could do the original proposal. A. 'cul-de-sac with
flag lots.
Mr. Jacoby: It would go right through the meadow. It would look
like a highway.
Mr. Latham: I think you misunderstood Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: In other words the original proposal was the
cul-de-sac at the end of the forth. Then from the there, from
the cul-de-sac you take off with two flag lots.
Mr. Orlowski: This proposal here. (Map spread out) .
Mr. Ward: Since we are not extending through the property that
is probably the best way to go.
Mr. Orlowski: This was the original map. This had two flag lots
and these two lots. You have to put a cul-de-sac here.
Mr. Jacoby: Right there. That is an improvement.
Mr. Orlowski: I would say.
Mr. Jacoby: Then we would not have to do all this mess?
Mr. Orlowski: Is that what the Board wants.
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Mr. Ward: Right. We want cul-de-sac' s, we are not continuing the
roads.
Mr. Jacoby: Fine. Good. So there wont be a road through this
beautiful meadow?
Mr. Orlowski: No.
Mr. Ward: I don't think you are going to be able to develope it
with this kind of a thing.
Mr. Jacoby So you vill authorize this.
Mr. Orlowski: Right. You can make those changes and get those
maps to us.
Mr. Jacoby: New Map.
Mr. Orlowski.: Or if you have a bunch of these left. We. only have
one.
Mr. Jacoby: How will I know what to tell him.
Mr. Orlowski: Take this one with you. We will want a covenant of
no further subdivision.
Mr. Jacoby: Thank you so much.
Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Elijah' s Lane Estates, Sec. 2 & 3-
Board to refer this subdivision to the Town Board for a
determination on the amount of money to be deposited with the.
Town in lieu of land for park and playground..
SCTM #1000-108-4-7.2.
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Harbor Lights, Sec. 4- Board to make a .
recommendation to the Town Board on the Letter of Credit.
Mr. Mullen: There are things on the agenda that we have not had
an opportunity to review. I think it is wrong. We started on
Thursday with seventeen items. Tonight we have twenty-seven. I
don' t mind a few, but I will not go fourth any longer with. this
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kind of operation. I can not do what I think is wrong. This is a
- typical example and there are a few others. that I will point out
to you later.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K.
Mr. Latham: Lets hold that one over till we can talk about it.
Mr. Orlowski: It is just an extension of a letter of credit.
Mr. Latham: An existing letter of credit.
Mr. Orlowski: I,t is a $35,000.00 Letter. of Credit for one year,
which we usually throw on when we find.
Mr. Mullen: I still refrain from voting.
Mr. Orlowski: We just got the thing today. We will hold it over.
Mr. Ward:, I will withdraw my vote.
Mr. Orlowski: I have nothing left on my agenda. Any questions
from the Board?
Board' s Reply: No Questions.
Mr. Orlowski: I will entertain. a motion to adjourn.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Seconded..
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Vote of the Board; Ayes: . Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
.m.
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
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DATE 7 I/ 1� HOUR I
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Town Clerk, Town of Southold 1
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4outhold Town Planning Board
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