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October 14, 198.8:=
The Southold Town Planning Board held a Special meeting on
Friday, October 14, 1988 at 3 : 00" p.m; at the Fisher' s Island
School, Town of Southold.
PRESENT WERE: Bennett Orlowski,.?r. Chairman
William F.. Mullen,jr. Member
G. Ritchie Latha , ter. Member m
Kenneth Edwards, Member
Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner
Mr. Orlowski: Good afternoon, I Would like to call this meeting
to order. Mr. Edwards, a board member, would like to say a few
words.
Mr. Edwards: I would ;ust lire to thank -e-erybody f cr ccr n;ng
and I would like to introduce the other members of my board. 'Re
usually meet on Monday evenings, at the Town Hall in Southold.
I thought this was a sigrifica.nt crowd on Fishers Island and I
would like people to speak out when trey get the chance. I
appreciate everyone taking the time off to come over here on a
Friday afternoon. On my far left, is Ritchie Latham, Bill
Mullen, .Chairman Ben Orlowski, Town Planner Valerie Scopaz. One
member of our board is not with us today because he had a prior
commitment with the Boy Scouts. He is very active with the Boy
Scouts. At this time I think I ' ll tarn the meeting back to Benny
so we can open- the hearing.
114r. Orlowski: O.K. , . First order of business is the Planning
Board would like to do a conditional Negative Declaration.
Valerie, would you like to read that?
Ms. Scopaz : O.K. , as I 'm sure you are aware that before the
board can act on the subdivision map it has to do an
Environmental Review. Pursuant to Article VIII of the
Environmental Conservation laws the State Environmental Quality
Review Act and part _VI of the New York State Conservation rules
and regulations part 617 , section 617 .10, Chapter 44 of the Code
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of. Southold. Notice is hereby given that Southold Town Planning
Board as Lead Agent for the action described below has
determined that the project does not have a significant effect
on -the Environment provided that specified mitigation measures
noted below are implemented. Can you ail hear me back there?
O.Y. , description of action, the major subdivision to be known
as Walsh Park Benevolent Corporation is for an affordable
housing project of twelve lots on 24. 33 acres, approximately in
the cluster concept located at Crescent Avenue and Fox Avenue,
Fishers island, Suffolk County Tax Map 1000-6-2-3 .1. The project
is not to have a significant effect on .the environment for the
following reasons:. the potential ::^pact :rill ?tee mitigated. The
identified impact in mitigation_ is as follows: First, the New
York State Department of Environmental Conservation commented
that ( 1) the project may have significant impact on a New York
State threatened species as a Osprey nest is located in the
vicinity' s of the subdivision. The department requests that any
construction related activity within 300 feet of the nest site
. be prohibited between March 15th, and August 1, and that a plan_
depicting the location of the nest in relation to the building
envelope be submitted. The mitigation measure that will address,
prohibited construction related activity within 300 feet of the
nest site between, Match 15 and August 1, this will be included
in covenants and restriction on the map before final approval is
granted. ( 2) Maps depicting the location of the. osprey nest in
relation to the building envelope will also be submitted. (3) A
wetland regulated by the department pursuant ---- .Environmental
Conservation law, Article XX1V, affixed on the property west of
avenue being and south of Crescent Avenue. The department
requests that the wetland be delineated and the line shown on
the site plan. Also, that any disturbance within 100 feet of
this line will require a permit from the department. The
mitigation that will address that concern are as follows: ( 1)
The building envelope shall be shown as concomitant with the 100
foot. buffer from the wetlands line. (2) The landscape easement
shall prohibit any construction or land alteration activity
including clearance within_ 100 feet of the wetlands. ( 3) That a
complete final assessment form be submitted. This has been
complied with. A completed Environmental Assessment form is in
the file. ( 4) The department has no objection regarding the
housing project on the old dump site, however they request the
following reservations: (a) no building should be built over the
landfill. Mitigation measures that address this are that all
the building set back lines shall be outside of the landfill
area and shall not in^l„ao the landscape easement area. The
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landscape easement' area. will be over the landfill. (b) Bi-
annual sampling for methane be required to continue for two
years after people . have homes built an the site. The mitigation
measure will be that there will be. compliance with .the
requirement that bi-annual sampling be conducted for two years
after people have homes built on the site. . (c; property for lots
surrounding the landfill advise future owners that a former
landfill is on the site. The mitigation measure that will
address that is that the property deeds will- indicate that
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information, (2) .The Suffolk County Department of Health
Services has an incomplete application in regard to the
inspection of the test holes on the site. Covenants for the
extension of public water, they believe that the presence that
an abandoned solid waste landfill on the site should be a
primary concern to all involved, due to the potential migration
of methane gas a substance on the .site. The department suggests
that maps be Submitted deleting the p-robable l a .df i l 1 area and
the wetland area and that all building lots be located outside
the old landfill area if possible. The mitigation measures that
address the concerns are ( 1) The landfill will ie delineated on
the map, all the building envelopes will be located outside of
that area. (2) The applicant will provide public water to the
site 'and the same will be verified by providing contracts for
the extension of the main to the site. (3) Larry Penny on behalf
of Southold Board of Trustees has advised that the
representation of the wetlands as shown on the Casually, Palmer
and King survey map that was revised on. July 25th, 1988
accurately represents the line of pink ribbon tied in the field
earlier this year. He feels that the map can be designated, can
be designed based on current yield in such a way that the
wetlands will be protected while the lots and their building .
areas will be sufficiently removed from them. Mr. Penny found
no endangered or threatened species or rare species of plants on
the site. However, the nesting osprey is a threatened animal
species. Mr. Penny also performed a test for methane gas on May
28th, 1988. When testing for lower explosion limit nothing
registered. on the meter. When testing for part per million
methane two readings were taken five minutes apart. The readings
were seventy- five parts -per million and eighty parts per
million respectively. The Planni_1q Board has requested all the
information mentioned by the different agencies and feels that
the plans in the cluster concept including all the mitigation
measures which ,I just mentioned will comply with `all of the
above mentioned concerned. The project will meet all the
requirements that the code of the Town of Southold subdivision
of land requirements.
Mr. Orlowski: i ' ll entertain a motion.
Mr. Edwards: I ' ll so *Hove, subject to the previous , read
conditions.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded, any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Orlowski, Mr,
Latham.
Mr, Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Plan.h.i.n., Board 4 October 14, 1988
Mr: Orlowski: We' ll open the public hearing on the question of
preliminary approval for this major subdivision on 24. 33 acres,'
located at Fishers Island. This 1"or a preliminary approval and
at this time everything is in order for a preliminary hearing
and I' ll ask if there are any objections to this cluster
subdivision?
Mr. Stanley: i reside at the corner of Avenue B and Crest Avenue
and I'm the president of the North Hill Association, a group of
approximately twenty six families whose homes or properties join
or overlook the proposed Walsh Park development. Since early
spring we have been in continual communication with the members
of our association regarding this proposed development and
members of our executive committee have also had frequent
discussions with Frank Baer, President and Mark Andrews, Vice
President of the Walsh Park Benevolent Corporation and' T_ would
like to take this opportunity to publicly thank them on behalf
of' our association for their willingness to sit down with us and
talk over our concerns and their cooperation in making available
.to us the site plans as they evolved over these past few months.
Our discussions with Walsh Park involve two main concerns,, the
site plan for the development and the number of units to be
built on the property. As to the site plan, I am glad to be able
to state that the plan which Walsh Park is presenting today has
the approval of. those of our members who own, property bordering
or abutting the Walsh Park tract. We feel the cul-de-sac
arrangement provides both the quiet street for .the residents and
a maximum area to be left as -%-r% Space which, is- one of the
prime objectives of the cluster development. As to the number of
houses we had hoped that this project might have been limited to
eight or ten units rather than twelve units which is a catch 22
situation. On the one hand Fishers Island is attempting to slow
down the rate of new housing and on the other there is a need to
reverse the trend of the diminishing year around population by
providing affordable housing. If the Walsh Park project succeeds
in keeping people on the island or. -in attracting new year round
residents it will have been worth the loss of a portion of the
last large or one of the last large undeveloped parcels on the '
west end. It is my personal feeling however, that Walsh Park and
" perhaps 173DCO should now direct their efforts towards accpuiring
ar_d. renovating existing housing as it becomes available before
building new housing. Also, if some of the applicants will be
giving up rental units efforts should be made to acquire these
units for year round tenants rather than having them taken over
by' summer tenants. Our discussions with the Walsh Park
management also addressed the question on how best to assure
that open space portions of the property will be managed and
protected. , I believe .we share a common desire that the portions
of the tract now used for street purposes or house lots shall
remain basically .in a natural state as open space except perhaps
for some screening planted along Fox and Crescent Avenues and
the , Planting of some natives shrubs and trees in other areas to
enhance the natural character of the tract. We are also in
agreement that the open space areas are.
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not to be used for park or recreational purposes but are to
remain essentially as wilderness land. I understand John Clavin,
and you can correct me John, that in his presentation of the
project to the civic association on Saturday, indicated that LIE--
was planned to place conservation easements on the rear portions
of the- building lots and on the remaining portion of the tctal
tract as concerned neighbors we would like to offer our in-put -in
in
drafting the necessary documents. In conclusion, 1 would like to
thank Valerie scoraz and Melissa Spiro .of the Southold Town
Planning Staff for answering .my map:y questions over the past few
months. I also wish to express my thanks to the members of the
Ul annln^y Board for tak' ny t-he 4 me f o come over to v4 sit the
site and for holding the hearing onyFiskiers. island. We are
naturally concerned that the project be carried out in
accordance with enviranmental. .and zcni::g laws and. that it be
done in an aesthetic manner. T feel that the development is off
to a good start with this site plan and I hope the Planning
Board and Walsh Park management can proceed through the approval
process as expeditiously as possible. 'Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Are there any other objections to this
subdivision?
Mr. Orlowski: Any endorsements of this subdivision?
John Clavin: Having worked on this project for a year I .can
assure the Planning Board that it is absolutely imperative that
we go ahead with the project. It is the only project underway
now to maintain at least in this small way the population that
we have now and hopefully be able "to build it up. you've seen.
all the documentation on the need for this island and this is
the first step. We' re trying to get on the fast track to get it
finished as quickly as possible and. it is imperative that we go
ahead immediately with it. We thank the board for coming over
here, I think it is above and beyond and we certainly appreciate
it.
Mr. Orlowski: . Any other endorsements of this subdivision?
Frank Burgen: I 'm the president of the Walsh Park Benevolent
Corporation. ! certainly want to thank everyone for their
statements and for everyone' s cooperation. I think we have made
a significant effort over the last eighteen months to have a
project that is responsive to the needs that ? know we are all
aware of and that _s : How do we make affordable owned .housing
available to people who want to ,live in this community and I
think we understand that this is a problem Which is not unique
to Fishers Island but is being addressed in every resort on the
Eastern seaboard and in most places not successfully. I think
the. reason that this will be successful, is that we do have
set of, goals which came out of the -Trust for Public Land Report
and the growth plan which was endorsed by the vast majority of
people on Fishers Island that said in effect that they wish to
see something done to at least stabilize if not enhance the size
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of the year round population on this island. The statistics are
quite compelling we have had over five hundred people living
here twenty years ago on a year round basis and we are under
three hundred today. It is easy to understand that there are
reasons beyond the fact that people can own or rent a home which
is not the only issue but it is an important issue. We believe
that the only way to address the multi-fold ircrease .of the
price of housing on this island Is to do something to subsidize
the year round population so they have an opportunity to live
and work on this island. We think it is important that this be a
year round island going forward as it has been in the past. We.
have attempted to put together a project which is not the only
solution . it is a project that will hopefully be the first of
several things that will be done over time to address this need.
I am very sympathetic to the remarks they were made with respect
to the fact that we should have as a community an interest in
housing that already exists and try and capture that for year
round people. We should have an interest in seeing that rental
property that does become available as a result of people moving
out of rental property and into these homes on the completion of
this project is either bought or made available to Year round
residents and does not add to the summer stock, which is
something we are trying not to do as it was expressed. I fully
endorse that expression. I can only say that Walsh Park
Benevolent Corporation, which has a board of thirteen people
representing both Island and summer people, feel very strongly
that this is not the last thing that this cooperation will be
involved in. We do have a continuing need -on this. isi.and. At the
moment, I can assure you that we are fully engaged in trying to
raise a very unique project. I am not aware of any affordable
housing project which is being done in the :Wanner we are doing
here. This is one hundred percent `affordable housing. This is
being subsidized by the contributions and efforts of the people
who live here in the summer and in 'the winter. It is not like
other affordable housing projects._ .As a result we have a private
corporation. We are going to set our own rules, which are going
to be rules which are compatible with this community and not
with some municipality or some government who does not know this
place and our needs and- requirements for this community. With
respect of the quality of what we are trying to do here, we do
not want the Planning Board to do anything that is .
extraordinary. We do not want to set precedences that are going
to set the island up for difficulties. We have said from the day
one that we don' t want special leave simply to do something that
benefits a few-people. We think we do have a project that is
compatible with the laws and the property of twenty four acres.
If we had wished- to we could have maded an application for a
change in zone.. That change of zone could have represented many
more houses and sites then we are talking about. I admit the
twelve sites is a lot, particularly given the desire to hold
down -development here. As it relates to year round housing, it
is not a lot. And as it relates to twenty four acres, twelve
sites on two acres each, in effect, it really. . .as you know from
the diagram of this property if the law permitted we would have
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had
twelve one half acre sites. Unfortunately, we have to have
twelve one acre sites. Our suggestion as the best way to deal
with the fact, that we do have to, .under the law, go to one acre
sites is to deed, restrict half of each acre. Obviously, if we
could have had a site plan that was different than this one, it
would have been only that it would be half acre sites. We hope
and believe that what we have suggested here has the same effect
as if we did. The bottom line of that is a relatively small
portion of the twenty four acres is going to have any building
on it and the rest will remain in its natural state. Hopefully
we can enhance . that. Co in conclusion I t?�iTk tbat without
going through all the nitty/gritty details, many of which I know
you are aware, of about how we plan to control this property.
Let me just say that one of the most important requirements for .
this project is that it remain in its affordable state for as
long as possible. The way we have addressed that is to have..
Walsh Park continue being the underlying owner of this property.
To issue long term leases to the people who will go into that
property. Those people will buy the home that goes on that
property. That lease will be renewable. That lease will only be
passed onto a person who fits the same qualifications as the
twelve immediate families, which is that they live and work on
Fishers Island and currently to not own a home here. Those are
the base requirements for the applicants that. will be going into
this project. We will attempt going forward to keep this
property. Even as these People leave Fishers ' Island, we hope
that through the maintenance of a list of people-•who are also
qualif ied .by the Walsh Park Board, 'we will have follow up
families that will go into this house. I would hope that we
. would have twenty five, fifty or one hundred years or more ahead
of us where these houses will remain in the year round housing
stock and not be flipped into the summer stock to further
exacerbate the problem that we are' all aware of. .That is too few
winter families and too many summer families. Again, I thank the
Board, as John did, on behalf of the Walsh Park Board. . We lock
forword to working with you as we. go- forward. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other endorsements of this subdivision?
Mr. Edwards: My name is -Ray Edwards. I think I am probably the
oldest. residing citizen of the island. 'I am talking about long
term resident. Yes, Bob and Emily. --From the middle twenties to
the forties and back again, I never really left the Island. I
want to thank the Planning Board for coming over for this ,
important heaxing and also want to .sympathize with the North
Hill _group. I know how they feel about their little section of
property out there. I remember running around .there playing
cowboys and Indians back .in the early thirties: I really want to
thank the Walsh Park Benevolent group for the hard work that
they have done in securing the property and .getting this thing
rolling against all of the stumbling blocks that they have had.
I think .it. is the best thing that has happen to Fishers Island
.in 'a long time. I have seen the decline of the residence going
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down. i, think something like this .-,an turn it around or at least
stabilize it. Again, I am one hundred percent toward this
project. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other endorsements of this subdivision?
Mr. Doherty: My name is Tom. Doherty. I am a Fire Chief on
Fishers Island. I would just like. to endorse this program on the
Board. i think this is a good thing for Fishers Island.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other endorsements? Is anyone out there
neither pro nor con but may have :information pertaining to this
subdivision that *,could be of interest to the Board?
Mrs. Raferty: I think I do. I am not sure. My name is cherry
Raferty, as everybody knows. I was asked to make a statement for
the Fishers island conservancy. John could not come here today
and asked me to say & few words. The Fishers Island conservancy
is interested in all aspects of the environment. This includes
water quality, plant species and *,gild life. Any development as
large as this will inevitably have an effect on the environment.
Good, bad, whatever. It will have an effect. We have been told
that the site plan that is being presented here by the .Walsh
Park Group, conforms to the requirements of the DEC on wetlands
and the protection of the Osprey and that. it provides for
preservation of open space ' We thank the Walsh park group for
its interest in the environmental- concerns. One additional
comment we have and that is the septic tanks. and .leaching
fields, which. as you know we have. been doing a lot of research
on lately. We Ask that they be properly sited and installed, so
as to prevent any possible massive pollution. to the ground water -
and the surrounding fresh and salt water wetlands. We also thank
the Planning Board for holding this hearing on . . t he island. We
look. forward to obtaining any minutes relative to the
environmental. review. There is one other thing I would.
personally say. I do know that there is some interesting species
in this area and I would like to ask },fiat the Park group or the
conversancy group go inthere and;take inventory. We certainly
do not want to hold .anything >>p by asking for an environmental
impact statement on the area. This would save time and it would
also be a good volunteer job for a number of us. I am also
concerned about the sand. and the gravel on the island. If we are
going to put, in a number of septic systems, I am wondering how,
'without taking sand and gravel from another area. -on the
mainland, get. . . sand of some sort so we don' t have to invade
our. sand dunes or our beach gravel in order to provide fill for
our septic systems. I don."t want to put our problem into
somebody else' s .back yard. Thank you.
Mr. Burgen: Mr. Chairman, may I respond. I just want to thank
chery for that statement and also to say that with respect to.
delineation of what is there in terms of plants please feel
free. I think it is great to have you do that. With respect to
the septic point and .beach rock, we are all sensitive to that.
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We
will do anything we can to see that we minimize that problem. I
can' t tell you today. Maybe Tom or John can. We don' t have plans
to do that. The need for it is obvious and it-. has to come from
some where. Do you have anything to add on that Tom?
Mr. Doherty: Not anything long range. We have had a lot of
people. ask about the septic systems. If we are going to have a
community system or how we are, going to arrange it. We did plan
on having twelve separate septic 'systems, so that they all will
be on certain different parcels of land. As far as the sand we
would not need it. It is loaded = ith sand, so we wouldn't have a
problem there. The gravel and beach stone, we are going to have
to eventually get it. Where we get it, we will have. to decide.
We have not gotten that far a long. Certainly we do not have any
surpluses in our budget that are .going to enable us to really .
spend great sums of money for getting things of that nature. I
would imagine it would be expensive. I don't know. We will
certainly note your concern and I''think it is a very good.
concern. We will see what we can do to minimize it.
Mrs. Raferty: Thank you. That is becoming more and more of a
problem here on the island.
Mr. Doherty: I agree with you.
Mr. Orlowski: Just to add'. This is a preliminary hearing. By the
time of the final hearing you .will have to go to. the Board of
Health and get all your approvals as far as sewer and.water: So'
before the final hearing those comments shall be addressed. Any
other questions or comments?
Man from audience I wonder if you can tell us what the process
is from here on out after this hearing.. Where do you go from
here?
Mr. Orlowski: Well, we will not close this hearing today, ,
because of the conditional negative declaration and the
questions asked. We will allow the applicant to finish the
impact statement, answering these-.questions. At some point, on
the island probably, at one of our meetings close this meeting.
From there the applicants will proceed with the Board of Health
and final maps and get ready for a final hearing. How ever long
the applicant takes is up to him. So, that is where it will go
from here.
Man from audience: Does the DEC .review your SEQRA determination
of today?
Mr. Orlowski: We have a conditional negative declaration. That
is what has been made today. wit.1 i all of those questions that
have been brought, out during this procedure. Once all those
questions are answered then we will. close this hearing. And then
proceed from there to final.,
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4 1998
Man from- audience: But does the DEC }hen review the negative?
Mr. Orlowski: No, we are the Lead Agency. So we have done all
the review with their comments and input. Basically it is their
questions that we are getting answered right now.
Ms. Scopaz: Mr. Chairman if I might clarify that. All the Board
Needs is for the mitigation measures to be shown on the map.
When they approve it, it lines up with the conditional negative
dec. Since the applicant has not had a chance to respond to it,
What he is saying is that, he is giving them a chance to put all
the information on the map so when they approve it it lines up
with the negative dec. All the mitigation measures will be
:narked on the map, so once the map is filed that information
will be there.
Man from Audience: Is that the preliminary map or the final map
that you refer to?
Ms. Scopaz: The preliminary map. The final map will }hen be
proformer. In other wards the map'-will essentially be complete
and the final map will just be. . . we are required to have two
hearings on it. The second hearing will be. . the only
difference, basically, the one map says preliminary and the
other one says final.
Man from audience: :lust one more question. isn' t the final plat
a much more detailed one with showing the street and how the
curbs and the location of septic systems and the rest of it?
Mr. Orlowski: Yes. This one is only preliminary. A basic out
line of the project.
' o f L J„ z,4 o o that Mr. Doherty: et me ,.�st say on the su�. c,. of the map t..a this
map has been adjusted once every two weeks on account of our
discussions and Jim Righters inputs and SWA' s own feelings and
for the benefit of those people who don' t know a little bit of
the back round. Chandler, Palmer, King will be the engineers for
this project. In order to get a little more attention and bring
some other parties to par on this site plan, Walsh Park hired
SWA Associates, which is a world wide consulting firm engaged in
this type of work. They are the same firm that is doing the
visibility on the bicycle path on the island. We asked them to
come to Fishers island and to walk-,this property. We gave them a
set of criteria. All of the things that we felt that were
important to this project. This is not the official map and the
one that is going to be submitted. The next that is going to
happen after today, the comments that were made by the Planning
Board in respect to things that they :,rant to see on the map. We
will incorporate those and ,have SWA in concert. with Chandler,
Palmer and King and in concert with the Town altogether render
what will become the first official map, if you will, so this is
not the final.
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Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments?
Mrs. Raferty: Is this the time to ask how much land you plan to
have between each one of the homes? Are the houses going to be
long on the quarter acre?
Ms. Scopaz: The lots are one acre lots: The Planning Board can
not cluster down to less then one acre lots. What this
particular plan shows is a landscape easement or a conservation
easement. All the land that the landfill is on, if I can just
show you on a map. The landfill is in this general area here.
The wetlands are over here. This line here shows the one hundred
foot buffer area. The building actually extends up to the wet
lands area but what the Board is saying is that this one hundred
foot line here. All the land between that line and the wetlands
will be covered by the preservation easement, which. will
prohibit any development or clearing in that area. Walsh Park
needs to go tothe DEC and get a permit, because what they are
essentlally saying is- that they are willing to protect that
area. All the development will be out side that area: Even
though the lots are one acre lots, the building areas a.e
smaller, closer to an half an acre. Same thing applies to all
these lots here. In effect that conservation easement will be a
permanent green buffer. It will prohibit clearing on this site
here. Ir_ fact, the cleared area will only be about half an .acre
in area even though the lots are actually one acre in size.
Mrs. Raferty: I just couldn' t figure out what; iris brownish area
is there.
Ms. Scopaz: Landscaping.
Mrs. Raferty: De we know how much land is between each piece of
property? It looks like quite a. hit.
Ms. Scopaz: That is not marked up on here, but the final maps
will have that.
Mrs. Raferty: Side yard. . .
Ms, Scopaz: On a - cluster subdivision the Manning Board has the
right to reduce the yard area. For instance, ordinarily on a two
acre piece of property the house has to be set back at least
.sixty feet. In a cluster they can be set back forty two feet. I
l i7 m ntion that it n ear � } most of the' houses are et
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back well beyond the minimum. It is -not like everything is going
to be right up to the road.
Mrs. Raferty: Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other questions? Hearing none, any questions
from the Board? Mr. Mullen?
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Mr. Mullen: No, but I would to make a brief statement. I would
like to congratulate you people for your diligents and hard
work. Particularly the Walsh Park Benevolent Association.
Secondly, a selfish motive, please come on over to Southold and
show us how to do it.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Latham?
Mr. Latham:, No. I am glad to be here and I am glad to see so
many people here. I hope we. can keep this thing moving.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Edwards?
Mr. Edwards: ! , just would like to congratulate Walsh Park Group.
for their recognizing the need on Fishers Island. I would
encourage the North Hill Associates along with the Conservancy
to work together and make this a project we will all be proud of .
Mr. Orlowski: Ms. Scopaz?
Ms. Scopaz: No.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Being no further questions or comments, at
this time I would entertain a motion 'to leave this hearing open.
Like I said, this is a preliminary hearing and T stated the
reasons for leaving it open and we will probably close it on the
Main Land. When time comes for the final hearing we will be back
here on the Island.
Mr. Edwards: So moved..
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor? .
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Edwards.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Respectfully submitted,
(Till M. Thorp,.. Secretary
:.,,'CEIVED AND ]FILED BY
THE SOUTHOLD TOWN CLERK
Chairman
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Town Clerk, Town of Southold