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PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES ,.
JUKE 19,1989
The Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting on
Monday, June 19, 1989 at 7 : 30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall,
Main Road Southold.
Present were: Bennett Orlowski, Jr. , Chairman
Member William Mullen
Member G. Richie Latham
Member Kenneth Edwards
Member Richard Ward
Town Planner Valerie Scopaz
Planner Melissa Spiro
Mr. Orlowski: Good evening, I would like to call this meeting
to order. First order of business is Sunbeau Associates -
Before I open the public hearing, I will entertain a motion to
recommend a revised bond estimate of $99,150 for Sunbeau
Associates to the Town Board for their approval.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham,
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: I would like to open this public hearing on the
amended map dated May 31, 1989. This subdivision is on 30. 637
acres located at Mattituck. We have proof of publication in the
Long Island Traveler Watchman and also have proof of publication
in the Suffolk Times. At this time everything is in order for
a public hearing. I' ll ask if there are any objections to this
subdivision? Hearing none, are there any endorsements of this
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subdivision? Hearing none, is there anyone out there neither
pro nor con but may have information pertaining to this
subdivision that would be of interest to the board? Are there
any questions from the board?
Board Members: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. , no further questions I' ll declare this
hearing closed. At this time since we are amending a
subdivision map which was approved, and since this is one lot
being transferred out of an approved subdivision, I ' ll entertain
a motion to approve the subdivision dated May 31, 1989.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward,
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: And also motion to authorize the Chairman to
endorse the maps dated May 31, 1989 upon completion of the
following conditions a payment of 6% inspection fee. I ' ll
entertain that motion.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham.,
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: North Road Associates - Board to keep the
public hearng open from February 6, 1989. This minor
subdivision is on 16.886 acres located at orient.
SCTM #1000-18-4-1.
Mr. Orlowski: The applicant has still not come up with the
information we need to close this hearing. What is the pleasure
of the board?
Mr. Latham: I move we keep it open until we receive all the
information we have requested.
PLANNING BOARD 3 JUNE 19, 1989
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Orlowski
Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Board to set Monday, July 10, 1989 at 7 :30 p.m.
at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold as the time and
place for the next regular Planning Board meeting.
Mr. Edwards-- So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen,
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Board to approve the minutes of the regular
meeting of June 5, 1989.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. Mullen.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
SUBDIVISIONS:
Finals:
Mr. Orlowski: Frank and Myrtle Hendrickson - Board to
authorize the chairman to endorse the final maps dated December
PLANNING BOARD 4 JUNE 19, 1989
2, 1988. This lot line change is on 95,756 square feet located
at Southold. SCTM #1000-70-4-44 & 45.
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order. All the conditions of the
final approval have been met and I' ll entertain a motion to
endorse it.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Mullen
Mr. Edwards.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. (Chairman signed five
maps) . John Wagner took one.
Preliminary:
None:
Sketches:
Mr. Orlowski: Fishers Island Utility - Board to review the
resolutions of June 5, 1989 for this subdivision. This minor
subdivision is on 2.53 acres located at Fishers Island.
SCTM #k1000-6-6-2.
Mr. Edwards: If you remember at out last meeting we granted
sketch approval on this parcel based on a letter from the ZBA
which stated that under the new master plan the parcel is zoned
R-40. Under proven inspection we found that it was not, it was
R-80. I would like to move that we recind our two motions of
the meeting of June 5, 1989.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowki: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Mullen
Mr. Edwards.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
SEQRA DETERMINATIONS:
PLANNING BOARD 5 JUNE 19, 1989
Mr. Orlowski: Paul Matthews - Board to start the coordination
process to determine lead agency and environmental
significance. This major subdivision is on 69.9 acres located
at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-100-2-1.
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to start this coordination
process.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Edwards
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: 7 :45 p.m. Russell Weiss - Public Hearing on the
amended map dated May 11, 1989. This subdivision is on 5.263
acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000 - 100-2-5.
Mr. Orlowski: We have proof of publication in the Long Island
Traveler Watchman and publication in the Suffolk Times.
Everything is in order at the present time. I' ll ask if there
are any objections to this subdivision? Hearing none, are there
any endorsements of this subdivision? Hearing none, is there
anyone out there neither pro nor con but may have information
pertaining to this subdivision that may be of interest to the
board? Any questions from the board?
Board members: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: At this time I will declare this hearing closed.
Mr. Orlowski: This is Russell Weiss' part of Sunbeau
subdivision and we are setting off a lot adjoining Mr. Weiss,
property. I would say that everything is in order to approve
the maps dated May 11, 1989 and to authorize the chairman to
endorse the same.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: I would just like to state for the record that
the C and R on the Sunbeau subdivision will go along on this
property which will be taken over by Mr. Weiss.
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Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward
Mr. Orlowski
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. (Chairman signed maps)
Mr. Orlowski: Dorothy Robertson - Board to make a
determination under the State Environmental Quality Review Act.
This minor subdivision is on 2. 568 acres located at orient.
SCTM #1000-13-1-10.
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order for a Negative Declaration.
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward,
Mr. Edwards
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Cedarfields/Mooresland - Board to make a
determination on the completeness of the Draft Environmental
Impact Statement. Board to initiate a public comment period of
thirty ( 30) calendar days from the date of this resolution.
This public comment period will run until July 19, 1989. Board
to set Monday, July 10, 1989 at 7 : 45 p.m. for a public hearing
on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. This project is
located on Moores Lane at Greenport.
SCTM #1000-4-5-1.
Mr. Orlowski: What is the board' s pleasure on the draft
environmental impact statement?
Mr. Edwards: Vote we except that.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Edwards: Motion to accept the bound Draft Environmental
Impact Statement together with the correspondence from Donald
Bracken dated April 19, 1989, as complete. The bound document
consists of the original document prepared in April 1987 and two
supplements dated and revised in June 1987, October 1988 and
PLANNING BOARD 7 JUNE 19, 1989
December 1988 . These documents were bound together and
submitted to the Planning Board office on May 19, 1989.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: I ' ll entertain a motion to initiate a public
comment period of thirty ( 30) calendar days from the date of
this resolution. This public comment period will run until July
19, 1989.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham. Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Mullen
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: I would like to make a motion to set a public
hearing on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Monday,
July 10, 1989 at 7:45 p.m.
Mr. Mullen: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. Latham
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
REPORTS AND BONDS:
Mr. Orlowski: Harbor View Realty - board to accept the Sidney
B. Bowne & Son report dated June 9, 1989, which reduces the bond
estimate to $854,190.00 . Board to extend the Irrevocable Letter
of Credit from June 20, 1989 to September 20, 1989, for the
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amount of $854,190.00. Board to recommend the reduced bond
estimate for $854,190 .00 and the extension an the Irrevocable
Letter of Credit to September 20, 1989 to the Town Board for
their review and approval of same.
SCTM. #1000-115-17-17 .
Mr. Mullen: I question why it wasn' t extended for a year which
it should be?
Mr. Orlowski: I was going to ask that same question. is there
anyone here representing Harbor View? The other one expires
tomorrow so I would say we accept this one.
Mr. Ward: I move resolution #1
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Mullen: I suggest, Mr. Chairman, that we advise the Town
Board and the attorney of our problem regarding the extensi-on
and suggest they get it for a minimum of one year.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K.
Mr. Mullen: Security Bond by the Town is usually for a three
year period.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. , we have a motion made and seconded to
recommend a reduced bond estimate and the extension of the
irrevocable letter of credit. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: I' ll entertain a motion to accept the Sidney
Bowne report dated June 9, 1989.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards
Mr. Orlowski:
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Mohring Enterprises - Board to review the
engineer report dated June 5, 1989. This minor subdivision is
on 34.5765 acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-75-6-7 .
PLANNING BOARD 9 JUNE 19, 1989
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to adopt this report.
Applicant already has a copy.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Long Meadow Estates - Board to review the
engineer report dated April 28, 1989. This major subdivision is
on 36. 9636 acres located at Mattituck..
SCTM #k1000-113-7-19. 2.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Mullen
Mr. Orlowski. Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: LoncF Pond Estates Section I - Board to review
the engineer report dated June 12, 1989. This major subdivision
is located at Southold.
SCTM #1000-52-8-(1-4)
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
PLANNING BOARD 10 JUNE 19, 1989
Mr. Orlowski: For the record we have a letter saying that they
will replace any trees that die within a years time
Mr. Orlowski: Elijah' s Lane, Section II - Board to make a
recommendation to the Town Board in regard to the Bond
Estimate. Board to set Monday, July 10, 1989 at 7:30 p.m. for a
public hearing on the final maps dated March 21, 1987 . This
major subdivision is an 20.3 acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-108-4-p/o 7.1.
Mr. Orlowski: The bond estimate is for $466,475 .00 and
everything is in order to make a recommendation to the Town
Board for approval.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward
Mr. Orlowski
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion to set a final hearing for July 10, 1989
at 7:30 p.m.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: We do need the updated Health approval but it
should be in by then.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Sean M. Dele,hap.�t Board to review the Suffolk
County Planning Commission report dated June 9, 1989. Board to
start the coordination process to determine lead agency and
environmental significance. This lot line change is on 2.74
acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-107-1-13-14.
PLANNING BOARD 11 JUNE 19, 1989
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to adopt the Planning
Commission report.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. We are adapting it
with five conditions. The other comments that are on this
report are only comments. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor.
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen
Mr. Orlowski
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Garrick L. Mal,lery - Board to review the
Suffolk County Planning Commission report dated June 12, 1989.
This lot line change is on 2.9 acres located at Nassau Point.
SCTM #1000-118-1-16,17,18. 1
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to adopt.
Mr. Mullen: Mr. Chairman, I would like to have a further review
of this situation because I believe approximately a year or so
ago there was another change in that immediate area where
someone had purchased a lot from this applicant and had put a
lot line change in there. I don' t believe this is proper for
the area.
Mr. Orlowski: Is anyone representing the applicant here?
Mr. Tuthill: I am with Richard Lark' s office representing the
applicant.
Mr. Mullen: I believe that not too long ago that this was a lot
owned by Mrs. Pfieff and it was set off with a stipulation to
one side of them and now they are doing something else to it. I
can' t quite understand the situation.
Mr. Tuthill: I 'm not clear as to.
Mr. Mullen: In other words, approximately a year ago in that
area there was a gentlemen to the other side of her that had
purchased a lot and they had divided it, now we are doing
further division of this property which is a very fragile area.
I would like to look at it a little closer if you do not mind.
Mr. Orlowski: We will set it up for an inspection. This was
already set off and we just want to see where this lot line is.
PLANNING BOARD 12 JUNE 19, 1989
Mr. Tuthill: Are you talking about lot 2 or 1?
Mr. Orlowski: Well, we want to check your side yard set-backs
Mr. Orlowski: Barbara Sowinski - Board to review the Suffolk
County Planning Commission report dated June 9, 1989. This
minor subdivision is an 4.3075 acres located at Cutchogue.
SCTM #1000-103-1-20. 2.
Mr. Orlowski: What is the pleasure of the board?
Mr. Edwards: I move to adopt the report numbers one through
five.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham
Mr. Orlowski
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Public Hearing of Thomas._ gh511=e - This is a
public hearing on the final maps dated January 2, 1989. This
minor subdivision is on 5.9130 acres located at Cutchogue.
SCTM #1000-84-4-11.
Mr. Orlowski: We have proof of publication in the Long Island
Traveler Watchman and the Suffolk Times. At this time
everything is in order to have a final hearing. I' ll ask if
there are any objections to this subdivision? Hearing none, are
there any endorsements of this subdivision?
Karen Stretz from Wickham, Wickham and Bressler. At this time I
have nothing to add to the application and I believe everything
is in order.
Mr. Orlowski: Rea-ring none, is there anyone out there who is
neither pro nor con but may have information pertaining to this
subdivision that might be of interest to the board? Hearing
none, are there any questions from the board?
Board members: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: No further questions, I will declare this hearing
closed.
PLANNING BOARD 13 JUNE 19, 1989
Mr. Orlowski: At this time everything is in order to approve
the map dated January 2, 1989 and also to authorize the Chairman
to endorse.
Mr. Ward: I would like to present the motion, Mr. Chairman.
WHEREAS, Thomas Shalvey, is the owner of the property
known and designated as Section 84, Block 4, Lot 11 located on
Bridge Lane at Cutchogue; and
WHEREAS, Thomas Shalvey, submitted to the Planning Board of
the Town of Southold an application for a minor subdivision
including an Environmental Assessment Form on July 11, 1988, in
compliance with New York State Environmental Quality Review Law;
and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Southold
pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act,
(Article 8) , Part 617 Title 6NYCRR having declared itself Lead
Agency and having issued a negative declaration on September 18,
1988; and
WHEREAS, a Public Hearing on such application was held on
June 19, 1989 at 8:00 p.m. at the Town Hall, Southold, New York;
and
WHEREAS, the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations
of the Town of Southold have been met by said subdivision
application;
NOW, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of
Thomas Shalvey, map dated January 2, 1989, be approved, and the
Chairman be authorized to endorse said approval with the
following condition.
( 1) Street trees are to be planted in accordance with
Town specifications
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
CHANGES OF ZONE:
None
PLANNING BOARD 14 JUNE 19, 1989
SITE PLANS
Mr. Orlowski - SunoilRefining - Board to start the coordination
process to determine lead agency and environmental
significance. This site plan is located on the Main Road and
Factory Avenue in Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-142-1-17.
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to start this coordination
process.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Mullen
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Agent for Applicant: May I ask the board for an indication of
the time frame that we will be proceeding in now? We also have
a pending application in the Zoning Board of Appeals. Will your
board take lead agency status?
Mr. Orlowski: We just did and we are starting the coordination
process and with SEQRA you know as well as I know if there are
no problems within the 30 day period we will move on. You' re at
the ZBA right now?
Agent for applicant: We' re filed but they are waiting the
outcome of your review before they proceed.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. , well we have to wait for 30 days.
Agent for applicant: The reason I asked the question as I am
sure you are aware, at the request of your staff we had
previously submitted a traffic study and if there is any
additional data or supplemental reports which you might require
of them to facilitate the SEQRA Review, just let me know and I
will try and get it to you as soon as possible.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. , our reviewers have the traffic study so if
there are any comments or questions we will have them get & hold
of you.
Mr. Orlowski: Port of Egypt - Board to make a determination
under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. This site
plan is located the the Main Road at Southold.
PLANNING BOARD 15 JUNE 19, 1989
SCTM. #1000-56-6-6.1.
Mr. Latham: The request should be made for the following items:
(1) The drainage plans, specifically in relation to
parking, and proposed building, must be revised so as to be
consistent with the up-dated site plan received in this office
on April 19, 1989.
(2) All maps must be signed and sealed by the licensed
New York State professional responsible for preparing the plans.
( 3) Site grades, grading, and drainage for the parking
areas must be shown. All areas shown as available for parking
must actually be available for parking.
( 4) A landscape plan must be submitted for review by the
Planning Board. Existing landscaping in the westerly front yard
should be indicated as such. April 19th, plan shows it as
parking.
(5) The location of all dumpsters and above ground fuel
storage tanks must be shown on the site plan.
Mr. Latham: I would like to make a motion for a negative
declaration and here are the reasons why: (a) The applicant is
to provide a positive on-site system to collect roof runoff and
site storm drainage. (b) An oil separator for the boat repair
and washdown area is provided, thus there will be no direct
discharge into the bay. (c) A porous surface of crushed stone
is to be used to absorb minor spills, and reduce direct run off
into the bay. (d) The Planning Board has required that a
landscape plan be submitted for review; with particular emphasis
on the road frontage. (e) The parking provided is satisfactory
to the Planning Board, however, all outside storage racks are
not to be utilized for boat storage during the summer months;
the area is needed for parking. ( f) The Planning Board has
determined that the proposed facility is a needed facility is a
needed facility in the community, and that the proposed locatio
is environmentally appropriate.
Mr. Mullen: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski.
Abstained: Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: I have one more resolution on Carl J. Graseck -
Board to make a determination under the State Environmental
Quality Review Act. Board to review the final map dated May 30,
1989. What is the pleasure of the board?
PLANNING BOARD 16 JUNE 19, 1989
Mr. Orlowski: I believe everything is in order and I would like
to make amotion to do an uncoordinated review. The Planning
Board takes Lead Agency, and as Lead Agency make a determination
of non-significance.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Edwards
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Also,
WHEREAS, Carl J. Gra-seck, is the owner of the property
known and designated as Section 63, Block 1, Lot 21 located on
the North Road at Southold; and
WHEREAS, Carl J. Graseck submitted to the Planning Board of
the Town of Southold a site plan application including an
Environmental Assessment form on April 3, 1989, in compliance
with New York State Environmental Quality Review Law; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Southold
pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article
8) , Part 617 Title 6NYCRR having declared itself Lead Agency and
having issued a negative declaration June 19, 1989; and
NOW, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of Carl
J. Gra-seck, map dated May 30, 1989, be approved and the Chairman
be authorized to endorse said approval subject to the following
condition:
1. The drainage calculation must be revised as follows:
Drainage calculations
(new existing pavement)
3 ,200 sq. ft. pavement
1,500 sq. ft. roof
4,700 sq. ft.
Proposed
1,408 sq. ft. pavement
1 500 sq. ft. roof
2908
Total 7,608 = 0.17 acre x 2. 5 x 1 = 1530 cu. ft.
PLANNING BOARD 17 JUNE 19, 1989
Provide 2 x 104 x 121 deep L.P.
68. 4 x 24 = 1642 cu. ft.
Provide 1,642 cu. ft.
Mr. Orlowski: This will go on as a condition.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
DISCUSSIONS:
Mr. Orlowski: Sidney Olmsted - Board to discuss this
application with the applicant. This minor subdivision is on 3+
acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM #1000-114-7-14.
Mr. Orlowski I will abstain from voting.
Mr. Olmsted If it would please the board, I would like to make
a statement so that I can get all my views across. I wrote this
this afternoon. I think the County and the Town has lost site
of what I am actually trying to do here. on one large lot I
have three existing houses. one built at the turn of the
century, one in 1949, one in 1974. We have no intention of
selling or otherwise changing anything, we are merely dividing
the lot so there will be a combined ownership. As you can see
we each own one lot totally and jointly share the third. It is
very easy to plan development on empty field, not so with an
existing homesites. I realize that when you saw the improved
groups drawing on lot two you would probably have thought I was
trying to put something over on you. We intend to remove the
portion of the improved driveway that is an lot one and connect
lot two to the proposed right-of-way. I note also that you
removed the waterfront privileges from lot number one because
you made the right-of-way so large. Understa ing when the ZBA
grants an appeal and approves lot lines, I understand more or
less they are settled then. I also note that under the Master
Plan I fa-11 under one acre zoning. I have perfect conditions
here, one acre lots, wells, great drainage, no run-off into the
creek because of all the fragile sand. In the sand, things
grow very slowly and if I have to install- a traffic circle half
the size of the Roanoke interchange, I will destroy naturally
seeded trees, Bayberries, Beach Plums and Wild Grapes that have
taken up to thirty years to get a start. There is also a
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question of a utility pole in the middle of this thing. The
cesspools are fairly close. If you look on the drawing the lot
nearest Westphalia Road has an odd looking thumb shaped cut from
the creek. That was caused by illegal run-off from Westphalia
Road soon after the dredging and fill in 1955 or 1956. Right
now both sides of Westphalia Road still illegally run-off onto
our property, but that is another matter which I will discuss
with someone else. If I were to construct a traffic circle as
you suggest, I might have still even more run-off into the creek
and if you noticed Mattituck Creek last week-end, June 10th and
llth, it was as pretty brown and I haven' t seen it that brown
since the 1955 hurricane. I do not want to contribute to this
run-off and I hope you feel the same way. This property has
been in my family since 1915. It is my roots and I plan to
retire here. I don' t cut the beach grass, I don' t pollute the
water and we chide people who do. I try to make mostly natural
plantings and the trustees require that no one shall fertilize
within 100 feet of the water or wetlands. I' ll do it, no
problem. I am a native son, not developer with lawyers or
consultants. I have not appeared here at any time to speed this
thing along even though you've been doing it since February of
1987. I also note that in the State Building Code Rule 280A
State and Town provides that there shall be provided a suitable
access road but no where does it say anything about a
turn-around or circle. We anticipate no problems getting in and
out of our property in the future nor did we have any problems
in the past. We also note that we have our approvals from the
Suffolk County Department of Health, the New York State of
Environmental Conservation in place for some time. I thank you
for your time.
Mr. Ward: There really is no reason the turn- around has to be
excluded, we can leave it as a right-of-way. One of the
problems with the layout is the fact that the. right-of-way is
taking away square footage from the lots. It could be a
right-of-way rather than a separate parcel and that way it could
just be property on the lot rather than have to be discounted.
Mr. Olmstead: The way I understand it, would jointly own the
right-of- way.
Mr. Ward: I think it might be cleaner just to leave the lot
lines through and have a right-of-way rather than dedicating out
the right-of-way because it would never be expanded.
Mr. Orlowski: It will be on the board' s next work session and
we will get back to you the end of next week.
Mr. Orlowski: Grange former Church of the Open Door) - Board
to discuss this proposal with the applicant. This proposal is
located on Beckwith Avenue at Southold.
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SCTM #1000-61-1-25.
Mr. Caminiti: I'm appearing for Walt Glassner on this Beckwith
property, the old church building of the Open Door and the story
goes back to when the church first assigned to sell the property
and to move. The church was appraised at $160,000, but because
of the poor market we were not able to sell that building. At
that time, I decided to buy that building and to move my office
from Main Road up to Beckwith. At the time, we thought we would
make it into an office building and I spoke to Victor and he
indicated to me that as long as I stayed out of the shopping
mall concept, he would allow one office and at that time all we
needed was the five parking spaces. I think the reasoning at
that time was, previously it was a meeting hall which required
thirty parking spaces. The building is a lovely building but it
lacks one thing, the building occupies most of the property. At
least two thirds of the parcel is occupied by the building
itself. The church received a special exception and- a
certificate of occupancy, which at that time also would have
allowed, or should have provided thirty parking spaces. It
operated in that capacity first as a grange and then as the
church in a very high density area requiring thirty spaces. The
thought was well if you are going to go from high density use to
low density use and you only require five parking spaces, it
would be an allowably change in use. Because the renovation is
much to high and Walter then decided, he' s a person of the
church, he purchased the building and received a court order.
He purchased the building for $160,000. The problem now very
frankly, we need your help, we don' t know what to do with the
building. Under the Master Plan it' s hamlet density and Walter
has in mind a office and small accessory apartment. He had in
mind at one time a two family house, but that could be too much
use for the septic system, but they would consider one office
and an accessory apartment. The problem now though is, we have
been informed that in order to do that we need twenty parking
spaces. It is just physically impossible to put in any parking
there at all. I think basically what we are doing is asking the
board if under the provisions of the town code if you could
waive that provision there is additional parking within 300 feet
or right behind the Mattituck Auto Parts with access from
Traveler Street. It is really what we would like and I
suggested to Walter to go before the board and at least get some
ideas as to, even if he wants to resell it. I think Nancy has
some preliminary sketches and ideas she would like to submit to,
but basically, it is a hardship to the man, there is really no
place to put parking other than Traveler Street.
Mr. Ward: Is there public water there?
Mr. Caminiti: Yes.
Mr. Ward: Is the Health Department still giving you a hard time
on the sanitary?
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Nancy Speelman: The Health Department, their major concern, we
talked to Bob Jewel, was that for two apartments it exceeded the
allowed amount of water per day and they would not allow the two
apartments.
Mr. Ward: What about enlarging the system?
Ms. Speelman: The area of the site is so small and so dense
that they wouldn' t accept it so we came back with possible one
apartment on the upper floor below that we would be less than
three hundred gallons a day.
Mr. Ward: Is the whole area served by public water?
Ms. Speelman: Not in every case. According to their records,
there is public water there but a lot of people try not to hook
up.
Mr. Ward: You have some wells in the area that are being
impacted?
Ms. Speelman: We felt that two apartments would be least amount
of parking, least amount of parking on the street. We thought
that was the best proposal but now we've come into a problem
with the Health apartment so we are looking for alternative uses
and let me show you. Here' s a survey of the property, he only
can put on four parking spaces. To do even four parking spaces
we have back out onto Travelers and it is tight. Three is fine
for realistic. There is a drop, a substantial drop towards this
part of the building from Travelers, it has to be filled.
Mr. Ward: Is the building line low as well as the floor line in
the back?
Ms. Speelman: The church used it as a play ground for kids so
it can be filled and used for parking. It is a small site, the
actual area of the site is about 4600 square feet.. Allowable in
this district is 20,000 so we are far below the minimum lot.
This is part of our problem. What we are thinking of and this
is just basically diagrams showing a one bedroom apartment on
the upper level which is the actual old section, the old
grange. Using that, this area is a one story in the rear and
then using the entire remaining portion of the building for
office space. This proposal yields 17 spaces, one for the upper
apartment and about 1600 square feet of office area so we' re
around 17 spaces. You can see where the side is we just can' t
do it. Mr. Caminiti is pointing out that within 300 feet, I
think it is almost 250, there is a lot that is being leased by
the town so potentially that clause in the parking would be some
relief for us as a waiver.
Mr. Latham: Is the town just leasing it?
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Ms. Speelman: That' s what we've been told by the Highway
Superintendent.
Mr. Ward: Along Traveler and Beckwith, what kind of parallel
parking capability is there?
Ms. Speelman: There is some, I don' t think it is actually
curbed at this point. Beckwith, a lot of people park on
Beckwith. Traveler Watchman is across the street, there is a
lot of activity here.
Mr. Mullen: They park down at the railroad station. There is
one advantage there. It' s a one-way street too.
Ms. Speelman: Yes, Beckwith is one-way.
Mr. Ward: Beckwith is one way, but I think there is some
discretion about making Traveler one-way East.
Mr. Latham: Does the railroad own the right of way? How far do
they go out.
Mr. Mullen: I think the whole parking area is theirs.
Mr. Edwards: Who actually owns the land that the Town is
leasing for public parking now?
Ms. Speelman: Matti-tuck Auto parts.
Mr. Ward: Do you know what the width of Traveler Street is?
Ms. Speelman: No I don' t. This is fairly wide here. Along
Beckwith now, there are accountants and it' s kind of a mixed use
area. I think next door there are two apartments.
Mr. Camineti: There is Malgraff' s property to the south, to the
west is the old Town Hall that was owned by Loretta DiMaggio.
That exits out onto Main Road right behind the pharmacy. Oh,
that' s right, she had that subdivided, the old post office.
Mr. Orlowski: Why don' t you give us the list of uses that you
are considering.
Mr. Ward: The rational for what you are doing, numbers that you
feel would be a practical number of use of cars for this kind of
business.
Ms. Scopaz: Would there be a possibility of perhaps curbing or
place some curbing around Traveler Street so that there is a
possibility of providing some on street parking there.
Mr. Ward: Maybe you can check the actual width of Traveler,
maybe we will be half way surprised and find a few more feet.
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Ms. Speelman: If what I recall, it is relatively wide at this
point.
Mr. Ward: Yes it is.
Mr. Mullen: Let' s get some input from them and then take a look
at it and check it out.
Ms. Speelman: O.K. , would you like us to submit a final
application at this point?
Mr. Ward: if you want, why don' t you do a rough one showing
parking and showing what you think can be done, what would be
reasonable before you go any further with it.
Ms. Speelman: O.K. , maybe what I can do is I can show you
directly where that adjacent lot is going to be.
Mr. Caminiti: We did have a problem with the visibility on this
corner.
Mr. Ward: Maybe you should check with Ray Jacobs.
Ms. Speelman: Yes, we' ll talk to him. What do you feel about
the on site parking that we have shown? Do you think that is
realistic?
Mr. Ward: Well, maybe as the apartment use because it is on
site for the permanent use and your secondary use in a sense
it's not there all the time, it' s the office.
Ms. Speelman: So one or two spaces in the rear.
Mr. Ward: Yes, I think otherwise you've got a problem.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. , I have nothing left on my agenda.
Mr. Orlowski: - Dorothy Bosco - I am here on behalf of my
mother and she has a hardship situation and I was hoping that
perhaps if you read the details that something could be done.
We are waiting for an answer and until we get an answer from the
Planning Board it holds up everything else.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. , we' ll review this.
Ms. Bosco: Thank you very much.
Mr. Orlowski: Nothing further on my agenda, any questions from
the board?
Board: No questions.
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Mr. Orlowski: No further questions, I ' ll entertain a motion.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Mullen: Second:
Mr. Orlowski: All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham,
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Being no further business to come before the board, on motion
made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham and carried, the
meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Jane Rousseau,
Temporary Secretary
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