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Home My WebLink AboutTR-05/08/1992-S r TRUSTEES ��`�S�FFU��`'pG SUPERVISOR John M. Bredemeyer, III, President h y� SCOTT L.HARRIS Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President ti Henry P. Smith Town Hall John B. Tuthill �y �� 53095 Main Road William G. Albertson �0,( �a0 P.O. Box 1179 Telephone (516) 765-1892 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD EAST END TRUSTEES MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING MAY 8, 1992 C TRUSTEES �4�� SUPERVISOR John M. Bredemeyer, III, President �.` �,,� SCOTT L. HARRIS Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President cnk: Henry P. Smith eb- y , %» Town Hall John B. Tuthill �.j. �� 53095 Main Road William G. Albertson '®,( ��® P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Telephone (516) 765.-1892 Fax(516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD EAST END TRUSTEES MEETING SOUTHOLD TOWN HALL MAY 8, 1992 CALL TO ORDER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Cornell Cooperative Extension Marine Program: Hobart Road Drainage Project, Emerson Region Extension Specialist. Has> roo The Andros Patent in relation to 'local waterfront revitalization in Southold, John Bredemeyer, III , President, Southold Town Trustees. The Andros Patent in relation to"Waters" Edward P. Sharetts, Patent expert. Executive session of the East End Trustees to discuss property matters concerning them, potential involvement in the Long Island Landfill lawsuit and other matters appropriate to them. . Post-executive session - public discussion and possible resolutions. Closing Remarks TRUSTEES �'.,� °" , '. �� SUPERVISOR John M. Bredemeyer, III, President SCOTT L. HARRIS Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President Henry P. Smith ��'.< Town Hall 4.:.Y. E �zas' John B. Tuthill .�,, ��.; ,,..--' ��, 53095 Main Road William G. Albertson 'Vq F '� ,v P.O. Box 1179 Telephone (516) 765-1892 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD TO: Southold Town Clerk Southold Town Board FROM: John M. Bredemeyer, III, President Board of Trustees RE: The Andros Patent in relation to public water DATE: May 4, 1992 Very recently it has come to my attention that the Southold Town Board may have inadvertently assumed the Patent Authority of the Trustees in a number of cases in the historical past. In all such cases I believe that the Town Board was simply unaware of the Patent and the responsibilities of the Trustees. Certainly the Trustees were of little help in these matters and our present Town Board is to be highly lauded, not only for their efforts to return the original Patent to Southold Town, but for their better awareness of the Patent by obtaining Ed Sharretts• analysis of the document. It .is with these thoughts in mind that I must caution you that any action you are contemplating to take with respect to public water extension in the Town must also be approved by the Board of Trustees. My position grows directly out of the Andros Patent and Ed Sharretts 'analysis of the "Waters" section of the document and the statutory support the Trustees hold by virtue of the New York State Laws of 1893 ; which specifically grant the Trustees the authority to "Manage, Lease or Convey" properties they hold under the Patent. Consequently, water, a property held by Patent authority of the Trustees for the "well-governance" of our associates, the residents of Southold Town, and subject to the right of the Trustees to be managed, leased or conveyed under state law can . only be regulated by the Trustees. Any contract or agreement with the Suffolk County Water Authority which may have already been executed by the Town Board Present were: Southold Trustees; John M. Bredemeyer, III, President Albert J. Krupski, Vice-President Henry P. Smith, Member John B. Tuthill, Member William G. Albertson, Member Southampton Trustees: Edward J. Warner Scott Strough William Bennett Paul Parash East Hampton Trustees: James McCafferey Thomas Knobel Debbie Miller Robert E. Davis Judge Edward Sharretts Richard Manuel (Shelter Island) 7 :30 P.M. Call meeting to order. Pledge of Allegiance Cornell Cooperative Extension Marine Program:. Hobart Road Drainage Project, Emerson Hasbrook from Cornell. Emerson Hasbrook: Spoke about Hobart Road Drainage project. Explained project in detail and answered questions. . . .what we did was put a series of catch basins with 8 settling tanks under the road. They are essentially septic tank leaching rings under the road. . . .gets piped into here. Here is where there is going to be an artificial wetland .area. Most of the money goes to monitoring. Monitoring in. terms of what is coming in, what is being removed, what is left in the water, how is it being removed and what is the efficiency of removal of the two systems. So the construction part of it was the smallest part of the monies involved. Monitoring over a two year period is the most expensive part. We don't know if putting this in place at Town Creek is going to quote clean up that particular end of Town Creek, but in terms of storm water runoff in that area on Hobart Road was a significant contributor. The volume of water coming down Hobart Road and some of the side streets was a tramendas amount of water coming, in there. Even just trapping the sediment is going to help with that end of the creek. In terms of funding and cost, one of the things that really helped this project was the fact that we didn't have to buy this particular parcel. The Town was able to obtain an easement for this area from the land owner. The project on Mud Creek, Skunk Lane, the Town was able to get an easement from the property owners on the pond. (ten year lease) . There are some alternatives than buying the property. In order to use sumps, you need depth. The problem you find in the coastal area is that you usually don't have enough depth.ground water to put a sump in. In the Hobart Road area you have about 6" to a foot to ground water in .here, so there isn't much depth. Sumps work, but what do you do in the coastal zone where you don't have enough depth? . There are sumps that are 30, 40 feet deep and there are . sumps that are 4 ' deep and .longer. We have areas that are 8,10 foot deep before you are going to hit the groundwater. I don't know if they would be beneficial in those areas or not or if you just create a problem with the -'slowness of the filtration and then you would have your stagnate water possibly sitting there. With just a plan sump you don't get any treatment in terms of the soils. I guess you can call this area a sump with vegetation planted in it. All the rings have cast iron man holes to get the 'sediment out of there. . .through our monitoring we are actually going to be taking plant tissue to see what is being taken up by the plants. You might get some evaporation. This year I think they will be making some monies available to localities to address storm water runoff problems. The way they are going to allocate that money is through local water pollution coordinating committees, I think is the term that they .use. So each county is suppose to develope these local , coordinating committees. The committees are suppose to establish priorities and priority areas and then the local coordinating committees are suppose to submit a request to the DEC for funding. This is something I just recently become aware of. That is the only monies that I know of for storm water runoff control. The Andros Patent in relation to local waterfront revitalization in Southold, John Bredemeyer, III, President, Southold Town Trustees. See attached memo that was read into the record. The Andros Patent in relation to "Waters" Edward P. Sharretts, Patent expert. Judge Sharretts updated Boards on. Patent matters that he is working on in other Towns. Progress is good. Attached is a copy of. Judge Sharretts report Executive session of the East End Trustees to discuss property matters concerning them, potential involvement in the Long Island Landfill lawsuit and other matters appropriate to them. See attached resolutions discussed and voted on in. executive session. ALL but Southold Town Trustees left at this point. Post-executive session - public discussion and possible resolutions. The following actions were taken by the Southold Town Board of Trustees; COREY CREEK ASSOCIATION: RESOLVED to issue a negative declaration effective April 30, 1992 with regard to the Corey Creek Association. AYES: Bredemeyer, Smith, Tuthill Neys: Krupski, Albertson. BRICK COVE MARINA: whereas, certain work has been performed by the applicant which exceeded the limits specified in the permit; and, whereas, clearly the applicant is ,in violation of the specified conditions in permit #3959, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Southold Town Trustees RESCIND all resolutions of April 30, 1992 with respect to the Brick Cove Marina Inc. , request for a permit amendment. Be it further, RESOLVED that the permit is and same shall be suspended until further order of the Southold Board of Trustees. A discussion of a moratorium on all future homeowner Association marinas in Town waters. No resolution adopted. Meeting adjourned 11:20 p.m. TRUSTEES O`�$uFFO(�`'pG SUPERVISOR John M. Bredemeyer, III, President SCOTT L.HARRIS Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President c Henry R Smith Town Hall John B. Tuthill �iy �� 53095 Main Road William G. Albertson ��,( �`a P.O. Box 1179 Telephone (516) 765-1892 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD May 8 , 1992 The following action was taken by the Board of Trustees on Friday, May 8, 1992 at a special meeting: Resolution #1, 1992 Moved, the Southold Town Trustees authorize their clerk, John Tuthill, to work with the Town Historian, Antonia Booth, to purchase, at an ordinary cost an( , acid--free paper permanently bound ledger upon which the Trustees can execute such permanent resolutions as they deem appropriate and to permit the Trustee Clerk and or Town Historian to spread the words of the Andros Patent of 1676 across its' pages such that the, Southold Town Trustees can sign same in 1993 on the hundredth anniversary of the departure of the Town Board from this body and on the anniversary of the New York State Laws of 1893. in which .we vest our Patent authority in modern law. Resolved, approved and signed May 8, 1992. �tqTh M. Bredemeyer, III Albert Kr ps i, Jr. resident Vice President vl �c AV l )?, (� hn B. T thill William Albertson erk P. Smith ember & Past President cc. Town Historian Antonia Booth I TRUSTEES �0��$UFFO[�COG SUPERVISOR John M. Bredemeyer, III, President �. 'yam SCOTT L.HARRIS Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President y Henry P. Smith W.-y Town Hall John B. Tuthill 53095 Main Road William G. Albertson ��j �`�� P.O. Box 1179 Telephone (516) 765-1892 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD May 8, 1992 The following action was taken by the Board of Trustees on Friday, May 8, 1992 at a special meeting: Resolution #2, 1992 (to be recorded by Clerk John Tuthill on an acid . free permanently bound ledger) . Be it resolved that as an obligate prerequesite to the Southold Trustees enjoining or bringing separate lawsuit in the Long Island Landfill Lawsuit and properly handle all patent matters in such a way as to avoid any conflicts of interest or the appearance thereof, that the Town Board of Southold will at once and immediately provide sufficient funds for the Southold Trustees to be represented by counsel of their choice, provided exclusively to their board by an attorney who provides representation to no other governmental entity in Southold Town Suffolk County,. the Suffolk County Water Authority and New York State. ohn M. Bredemeyer, III Albert K upski, Jr. President Vice President " 63 Q� aL�41 1-- n B. Tut ill William Albertson C- erk Member Herlr P. Smith, Member TRUSTEES �O��S11FF0(,��oG SUPERVISOR John M. Bredemeyer, III, President h y� SCOTT L.HARRIS Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President ti Henry P. Smith W_ Town Hall John B. Tuthill �y 53095 Main Road William G. Albertson �41 �`a� P.O. Box 1179 Telephone (516) 765-1892 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD May 8, 1992 The' following action was taken by the Board of Trustees on Friday, May 8, 1992 at a special meeting: Resolution # 3, 1992 (to be recorded by Clerk John Tuthill in our permanent record) Be it resolved that no purveyor- of public water in Southold Town shall conduct activities such that water derived from the ground not under the control of the Southold Trustees is conveyed, pumped, dispersed, polluted and or released into Southold such that it may dissolve or otherwise contact the minerals and or dilute or contaminate the waters we hold by virtue of the. Andros Patent of 1676 and the Laws of 1893 without the express permission of the Southold Town Trustees. Be it further resolved that any groundwater derived from the Andros Patent .holdings by a public water purveyor shall not be sent beyond the Patent boundaries as set forth by Edmond Andros in 1676 nor co-mingled with a water from any other source not derived from Andros Patent water. The upper glacial acquifer of groundwater in Southold Town shall henceforth be officially known as the Andros Aquifer within Southold Town in all writings of this Board. Resolved, approved and signed May 8, 1992. John M. Bredemeyer, III Albert Krupski, Jr. President Vice President ohn B. Tuthill William Albertson Clerk Henry . Smith Membdk & Past President TRUSTEES O�Q$UFFO(�COG SUPERVISOR John M. Bredemeyer, III, President 0 � SCOTT L. HARRIS Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President y Henry P. Smith Town Hall John B. Tuthill �iy �� 53095 Main Road William G. Albertson �O,( �a0 P.O. Box 1179 Telephone (516) 765-1892 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD May 8, 1992 The following action was taken by the Boards of Trustees on Friday, May 8, 1992 at a special meeting: Resolution # 4, 1992 (to be 'recorded by Clerk John Tuthill in our permanent record) Moved, the Trustees of the Town of Southold, Southampton and East Hampton pray for the return. of the Andros Patent to the Town of Southold such that the priceless charter of the Town of Southold, the keystone of their cultural history and Public Trust Doctrine shall forever reside by the shores. of the Peconics. Trustees of the Town of aouthold / r a �•�1/I/tom V REC'EIVED AND FILED BY THE 6&HOLD TOWN CLERK DATE 7�� HOUR orn�Clerk, Town of,S'o`u#