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Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 1 Southold. New York 119 71 TELEPHONE (5 16)7 65-19 3 8 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD December 1 , 1989 John J. Hart: Pelletreau St Pelletreau 20 Church Stireet Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Norris/Carr-Wanat SCTM #1000-122-5-4 Dear Mr. Hart: In response to your letter of October 26, 1989; a copy of which is attached for your convenience, enclosed please find copies of outstanding bills for review of the draft environmental impact statements for the Norris/Carr-Wanat subdivision plan. In response to your letter of August 24, 1989, we attempted to obtain the information requested. Szepatowski Associates will provide the information you requested upon the drafting of a contract and deposit for half of the work. If you wish to pursue this option, please contact us. Also in response to your letter of August 24, 1989 , the payment that your client had made was to the Town Board for review of the change of zone. The amount due to the Planning Board is for review of Norris subdivision not the change of zone application I-or Carr-Wanat. Prompt payment of $5,420. 00 would be appreciated. This is the amount that was mentioned in our June 19, 1989 correspondence (copy enclosed along with the supporting documentation) . Enclosed please find receipts for monies paid to the Town Board for review of the Change of Zone for this project. 1� e,r-5( truly your,9',? B�unett Orlowski , Jr. Chairman enc. cc; Richard Carr y�^u'fi !} Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 IK- Southold. New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD December 1, 1989 John J. Hart Pelletreau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Norris/Carr-Wanat SCTM #1000-122-5-4 Dear Mr. Hart: In response to your letter of October 26, 1989; a copy of which is attached for your convenience, enclosed please find copies of outstanding bills for review of the draft environmental impact statements for the Norris/Carr-Wanat subdivision plan. In response to your letter of August 24, 1989, we attempted to obtain the information requested. Szepatowski Associates will provide the information you requested upon the drafting of a contract and deposit for half of the work. If you wish to pursue this option, please contact us. Also in response to your letter of August 24, 1989 , the payment that your client had made was to the Town Board for review of the change of zone. The amount due to the Planning Board is for review of Norris subdivision not the change of zone application for Carr-Wanat. Prompt payment of $5,420. 00 would be appreciated. This is the amount that was mentioned in our June 19, 1989 correspondence (copy enclosed along with the .supporting documentation) . Enclosed please find receipts for monies paid to the Town Board for review of the Change of Zone for this project. trulyrouyr,:g�, Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman enc. cc: Richard Carr I VOICE SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS S41 DEC AI � F+•..MI C SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD DATE 12/29/88 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman NUMBER Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Cedarfields/Mooresland $ 35.00 Cliffside/Tidemark $ 35.00 Cove Beach Estates $ 315.00 Marina Bay Club $ 175.00 Norris Property:Carr-Wanat $ 315.00 Hamlet at Cutchogue $ 590.00 DBM Subdivision $ 35.00 Angel Shores $ 280.00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE _ $1780.00 Payment Due Upon Receipt. Thank You. t INVOICE SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS SAI DATE November 28, 1988 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. - ...__. _•.... - --. .... Planning Board- Chairman' NUMBER -- Southold Town Hall -- 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DESCRIPTION AMOUNT -------------- _.... . - - - ...-. ------------...-.._._......._t._. ............ ..... ...................._ ...- -- --- ----- Angel . Shores $ 70.00 Cedarfields/Mooresland $ 170.00 Cliffside $ 710.00 Cove Beach Estates $ 800.00 - _. . Marina Bay Club $ 100.00 Norris Property/Carr-Wanat $ 1185. 00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE _ $ 3035. 00 Payment Due Upon Receict Th h: 1`®u .l i ........S9.4_h9a.C1:............................... N. Y.'............. .............Noember, 28 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, N. Y., Dr. To..Sze atowski Associates Inc..... ...................................,.....................................Claimant Add ress?g.Narragansett. Avenue,. Jamestown .RI...02835 I..D. No. ..,r........ r..,:.:.::.:.�.�::..:�:. �Y - - - - - -- -- - or ocSecurity No - Review of the Following DEIS as per the resolution of the Planning Board: Norris Property/Carr-Wanat: _ --- ---- ----------Principal -Planner ---;.----- 3 0 hrs._ -.--... --70 - 00 - .. _.21 .. ... -..-� -- - Environmental Planner ... .. 19.5/hrs @ $ 50. 00 $ 975. 00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE _ $1185. 00 The undersigned (Claimant) (Acting on behalf of above named Claimant) does hereby certify that the (Cross out one) foregoing claim is true and correct and that no part thereof been paid, except as therein stated, and that the balance therein stated is actually due and owing. Dated November 28 19 88 .. .......................................... .. ...... .............................U.................. ..................... Signature t i1 } SAI E INVOICE SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTAtiJr O , �j UCT 2 61S� �--' s � - SOlIT�10•_0 DATE Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. October 25, 1988 Planning Board Chairman NUMBER Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, Ny 11971 DESCRIPTION ` AMOUNT Angel Shores $ 35.00 Cliffside $ 70.00 .Cove Beach Estates. $ 70. 00 Marina Bay Club $ 35 .00 Norris Property/Carr-Wanat $ 700.00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE _ $ 910. 00 PAYMENT DUE UPON RECEIPT THANK YOU SAI D U 13 OICE SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS ` CAI 1:1 SOUTHOLD TOWN P LANNING BOARD DATE September 29, 198 Mr. Bennet Orlowski, Jr. NUMBER Planning Board Chairman Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Angel Shores $ 70.00 Cove Beach Estates $ "455.00 Norris Property/Carr-Wanat $ 435.00 Tidemark/Cliffside $ 100.00 Hanauer & Bagley $ 425 .00 Gazza/Lettieri $ 35.00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE _ $1520 .00 PAYMENT DUE UPON RECEIPT THANK YOU t r SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS in-Go1 0 TOWN;. BOARD DATE Mr. Bennet Orlowski, Jr. 8/26/88 Planning Board Chairman Southold Town Hall NUMBER 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Angel Shores $ 905.00- August Acres $ 615. 00 Harold Reese/Cove Beach $ 885. 00 Norris Property/Carr-Wanat $ 900. 00 Marina Bay Club $ 70. 00 Cedarfields $ 35 . 00 Gazza/Lettieri $ 35. 00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE _ $3445. 00 PAYMENT DUE UPON RECEIPT THANK YOU 't _ r Southold....................................I MY......H 8 ugust.......... .. . TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, COUNTY .OF SUFFOLK, N. Y., Dr. TO..SzeP.atowski..Associates,.. In..... . ....... ._ .... ....Claimant Address..2.3..Naxraga .ett;.Av.�nu�,...J ----... -- - - ----- Fed. I. D. No. .................................. or Soc. Security No. lReview. of the following DEIS as per the resolution of fhe Planningi Board ? Norris Pro erty/Carr-Wanat: - - Principal Planner 2 .5/hrs @ $ 70.00 $ 175. 00 725 . 00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE _ $ 900.00 The undersigned (Claimant) (Acting on behalf of above named Claimant) does hereby certify that the (Cross out one) foregoing claim is true and correct and that no part thereof has been paid, except as therein stated, and that the balance therein stated is actually due and owing. Dated .....P,uc�ust..26................. 19 8 ....8 ........ .......... .. .. .... . ................................. ig ture } 4Q Al � � � � � � � INVOICE SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS &A I DATE Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. 7/29/88 Planning Board Chairman NUMBER Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Harold Reese/Cove Beach $ 35.00 August Acres . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $ 100.00 Costello . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $ 430.00 Norris Property/Carr-Wanat . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $ 1200.00 $ 1765.00 Payment Due Upon Receipt. Thank You. i c• q54 Southold M Y........ July..............19, 88 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, N. Y., Dr. F 0..S�cFako $ka..�ssaci.aes,..Inc.......................................Claimant Address..P. N rragansett Avenue, Jamestown, RI 02835 .................................................................... Fed. I. D. No. ............................... or Soc. Security No. ................... Review of the following DEIS as per the resolution of the Planning Board: Norris Property/Carr-Wanat Principal Planner 10.0/hrs @ $ 70. 00 $ 700. 00 Environmental TOTAL AMOUNT DUE _ $ 1200. 00 .µ. The undersigned (Claimant) (Acting on behalf of above named Claimant) does hereby ceft,ifV that the (Cross out one) foregoing claim is true and correct and that no part thereof has been paid, except as therein stated, and that the balance therein stated is actually due and owing. July 29 88 S6UrADated ............................................. 19............ ............................ Si nature INVOICE SZEEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS Southold Town Planning Board DATE 7/5/88 Southold Town Hall Main Road NUMBER Southold, New York 11971 DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Angel Shores $ 1515.00 August Acres $ 85.00 Harold Reese/Cove Beach $ 620.00 Marina Bay Club $ 790.00 Tidemark/Cliffside $ 690.00 Cedarfields/Mooreland $ 35.00 Norris Property/ Carr-Wanat $ .685.00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE _ $ 4420.00 Payment Due Upon Receipt. Thank You. SAI INVOICE SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS S41 DATE 2/l/88 Southold Planning Board Southold Town Hall NUMBER Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Professional Planning Services: \ Tidemark DEIS review .. .. . . .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. . . . . .. .. . . .. .. $ 420.00 Angel Shores DEIS review .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. . . .. .. . . . ... .. . . .. .. . $ 35.00 Marina Bay Club DEIS review .. .. .. . . .. . ... .. .. . . . . .. .. . . . . .. .. $ 140.00 Carr-Wanat Change of Zone . .. .. .. ... . .. . . .. .. .. .. . . .. .. .. .. . . . $ 111 �_ bi�� �T�/`��y / RECEIVED BY SCHf �.^.ir s nn!n DATE l J.� J PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHNJ•ROE.111 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I10 (I891-1943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD BRUCE T.WALLACE PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772_ (1950-1980) KEVIN A.SEAMAN TEL. 5 16 447-8900 _ - -""'ROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN• OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG FAX 516 475-56S I - DOUGLASJ.LEROSE 447-8906 i BRIAN McCAFFREY•• %+it 1 c.. s1 q V JAMES G.HYLAND 'ALSOADMITTED IN FLORIDA "ALSO ADMITTED IN ILLINOIS August 24, 1989 I ' Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road � . P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Planning Department Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Re: Norris/Carr/Wanat - DEIS Review Dear Chairman Orlowski: We have rechecked our records regarding SEQR Review payments made by our client for the above parcels . Mr . Carr made two (2) separate payments in 1988 . The first was for $350. 00 on May 13 , 1988 , and the second was for $1, 650.00 on June 15, 1988 . I have enclosed copies of those checks for your review. Kindly deduct that amount from the $5, 420.00 you list as his balance. Thank you. Very truly yours, PE ETREAU & PELLETREAU Jan . F. Haeberle Legal Assistant JFH: lyn Enclosure cc : Mr . Richard Carr Mr . Henry Raynor Mr . James A. Schondebare, Esq . 02U(34) Town 1. 53093 1�1 'n Hal ain Road '� ,� : ' •°' � P.O. Box 1 179 FAApp Southold. New York 11971 i TELEPHONE (516)7 65-19 38 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD June 19, 1989 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Norris/Carr/Wanat SCITM 111000-122-5-4 Dear Mr. Raynor: A review of our books indicates that the fees for the environmental review of the above-referenced project subject to the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act have exceeded the initial monies you have paid to the Planning Board to cover the environmental review. Enclosed you will find a copy of the bills that were sent -to the Planning Board by its environmental consultant, Szepatowski Associates, Inc. for the review of the above-named project. It would be appreciated if you would submit the balance, which is $5 ,420 . 00, to this office by July 3 , 1989. If you have any questions,• please do not hesitate to contact this office. Ve y- Yul y yours, •A/I � f'. I BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. � CHAII,.MAN cc: James A. Schondebare, Town Attorney John A. Cushman, Town Accountant y71 r kj Town Hall, 53095 Main Roac .E P.O. Box 1179 Southold,New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY TELEPHONE TOWN CLERK (516) 765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON MAY 31, 1988: RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold, in accordance with Chapter 44, Section 20 of the Code of the Town of Southold, and Part 617 NYCRR, hereby determines that a deposit of $2,000.00 shall be paid for scoping session and review of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect to the Carr/Wanat petition for a change of zone. Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk June 3, 1988 dc�' '� L _ Town Hall, 53095 Main RI P.O. Box 1179 -� � :•.� ..f�U Southold, New York 119' JUDITH T.TERRY TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS (516)765-1801 OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD June 3, 1988 John J. Hart, Esq. Pelletreau E Pelletreau 20 Church St. - Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 Re: Carr-Wanat Petition for Change of Zone Dear Mr. Hart: Transmitted herewith is a certified resolution of the Southold Town Board, adopted at their regular meeting held on May 31, 1988, determining that a deposit of $2,000.00 shall be paid for scoping session and review of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect to the Carr/Wanat petition for a change of zone. This deposit shall be paid prior to the scoping session. Whereas the scoping session has been held, and the petitioner has paid $350.00 for the session, $1,650.00 is still due the Town at this time. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Very truly yours, Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk Enclosure PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX Ilo 0891-1943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD RICHARD A.SCHOENFELI J.TIMOTHY SHEA PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) T.WALLACE KEVIN A.SEAMAN TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN• FAX 516 475-5651 OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG DIRECT DIAL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI Q DOUGLASJ.LEROSE 447-8906 DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY,JR. 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY May 13 , 1988 . sLi•y .yam, Town of Southold Town Hall .,•...y 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Judith Terry, Town Clerk Re: Carr-Wanat Change of Zone Dear Mrs . Terry: As per your letter of May 10, 1988 regarding the additional $350.00 charge by David Emilita for the scoping session, etc. , enclosed please find our clients check for that amount. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Janet F. Haeberle Legal Assistant for John J. Hart JF.H: lyn 4•ar•w.w•a�•w•e�•w•w•w.w.w.s•s•A.w•.as•�s•w�wp..�r.w TOWN CLERK "'°..•'°""+�•.s..•„� TOWN of souriIOLD j Suffolk (;aunty-. N(!w York 516 - 765-1801 R � • j.���' 264y:. Clouthuld. N. Y. 1197 19 eForDollars S 15,D d d Judi It '['.-I'cr y, Town C1 -rk j �fa.h n Cl)„ak j i �•s•w•s•s• �A+�•w••ew.•c•eera•�• ( ess•se. — ' J;.. ' r i 1 w Town Hall, 53095 Main Roa P.O. Box 1179 Southold,New York 1 1971 JUDITH T.TERRY TELEPHONE TOWN CLERK RE(;ISTRARUI:VITAL STATISTICS (SiG)765-1$01 OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD May 10, 1988 John J. Hart, Esq. Pelletreau E Pelletreau 20 Church St. - Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 Dear Mr. Hart: Please be advised that an additional $350.00 has been incurred with respect to the Carr-Wanat petition for a change of zone. This amount is the charge by David Emilita for the scoping session, preparation, etc. Please remit a check payable to the Southold Town Clerk at your earliest convenience. Thank you. Very truly yours, Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk t PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART (1B91-1943) .JOHN J.ROE.III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 RICHARDA.SCHOENFELE J. EDERIC TIMOTHY SH A PATCHOGUE,NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL.516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN• FAX 516 475-5651 OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O DOUGLAS J.LEROSE 447-8906 DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY,JR. *ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY June 15, 1988 CFRTIFI MATT RRR Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road EICZVAED P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Judith T. Terry, Town ClerkC7II+�„�.� (1-Irk RE: CARR-WANAT Change of Zone Dear Mrs . Terry: As per your letter dated June 3 , 1988 , enclosed please find the applicant ' s check for $1, 650 . 00 covering the balance owed on the DEIS review. Very truly yours, ,i,i,ETREAU & PELLETREAU et F. Haeberle ega1 Assistant _ JFH: hmm Encl . cc: Richard T. Carr lU/45 PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I1 O (IB91-CHO FREDERIC L.ATWOOD RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FR DE ICL.A WO PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 ()9SO-19e0) KEVIN A.SEAMAN TEL. 516 447-8900 �-,. Ts ritl r, na aROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' _ COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG FAX 516 475-5651 �; = _r �--_ #IN it DOUGLAS J.LEROSE 447-8906 fly ! BRIAN MCCAFFREY** AUG 2 JAMES G.HYLAND �� ✓y�s 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA **ALSO ADMITTED IN ILLINOIS P L A t4 80 �`� August 24, 1989 -a , Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road n, P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Planning Department Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Re: Norris/Carr/Wanat - DEIS Review Dear Chairman Orlowski : We have rechecked our records regarding SEQR Review payments made by our client for the above parcels. Mr. Carr made two (2) separate payments in 1988 . The first was for $350.00 on May 13 , 1988 , and the second was for $1, 650. 00 on June 15, 1988 . I have enclosed copies of those checks for your review. Kindly deduct that amount from the $5, 420.00 you list as his balance. Thank you. Very truly yours, PE ETREAU & PELLETREAU Ja F. Haeberle Le al Assistant JFH: lyn Enclosure cc: Mr . Richard Carr Mr. Henry Raynor Mr . James A. Schondebare, Esq. 02U(34) tv^`�,i r 3.1lrr i lAh.S` i Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 9 ' Ati Southold. New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD July 26, 1939 Henry Raynor _'Q0 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Norris/Carr/Wanat SCTM ##1000-122-5-4 Dear Mr. Raynor: On June 19, 1989 a letter was sent to you in regard to outstanding bills for environmental reviews. It is understood that the above mentioned letter has been sent to the applicant, however to date. the Planning Board office has not received payment. Please submit the balance, which is $5,420. 00, to this office by August 4, 1989 . If this payment is not received by August 4, 1989, this matter will have to be turned over to the Town Attorney' s office. Thank you for your cooperation. Very truly yourrs,,, p �; , BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN . cc: James A. Schondebare, Town Attorney John A. Cushman, Town Accountant John Hart, Pelletreau & Pelletreau i December 14, 1988 MTR Inc. 649 Commack Road Commack, N.Y. 11746 (516) 462-9580 I am the property owner adjacent to the north western portion of the Wanat property in Mattituck. Attached are a few of my general comments regarding the Norris Wanat proposal. My business address and phone are listed as the most convient location to contact me in the event that any documents that I have referenced might be of interest by either the Planning Board or Town Board. Respectfully Submitted, William C. Hess WCH/jlh In the early 1970 ' s I founded the North Fork Preservation Society. "Preservation Society" sounded as if it could be an organization devoted to collecting antiques so we deemed the name North Fork Environmental Council more appropriate to the overall goal and scope of what I thought might be achieved in making people responsible in the development of the fragile North-Eastern peninsula of Long Island. I have not been active or a member of the organization since the mid-seventies but it is gratifying to see that my original vision has resulted in an ongoing organization which is addressing the quality of environmental life in the Town of' Southold as well as Eastern Riverhead. Recent problems with Temix, the red tide , and medical waste washing up on beaches highlight the that we must observe diligence in using our land and water resources and also in policing our garbage and sewage wastes . The catalyst that prompted me to start the North Fork Preservation Society was the massive erosion of the bluffs and beaches in -the Mattituck Hills area, between the Riverhead town line and Mattituck Inlet, caused by the Levon project and the jetties constructed because of it. The Levon project in the Town of Riverhead on the Southold border was allowed as a result of their Town Board not properly evaluating the effects of such an alien project to an agricultural area, to a fragile shoreline and to a limited aquifier. My work along with others and in conjunction with then Attorney General Louis Lefkowitz in New York Stage ' s first environmental case resulted in the removal of the jetties , and in a limited way corrected some of the rape of the land. A few years later LILCO purchased the Levon site 'and attempted to construct two 1150 megawatt nuclear power plants . Again I became involved, as New York State ' s first and only individual intervenor against a nuclear power station. During my time opposing their project I was introduced to many environmental impact reports and learned that one can get so engrossed in the reports as to pre-suppose that the project has already been accepted. You start making corrections , additions and deletions to the report -- nuts and bolts type thinking --* rather than sit back and look at the big picture and ask "Is this project compatible with what we want for the area? A generation from now can we face our children or grandchildren and say we made the right decision for the use of this land, or will we have to hang our heads in shame and tell them that we squandered their heritage , polluted their water, poisoned their land; that we overbuilt and overpopulated the land to such an extent that there is no open space and no natural habitat; that we took the major industry of the area, agriculture, which was an honorable profession and way of life , and we fragmented it so badly that it died in two generations . " that case . About two years ago Mr - Lenz subdivided the Rothmayer property 1000 feet to the west into three 2 acre parcels (with a slight variance on one of the parcels which was close to but not quite 2 acres) . My neighbors and I strongly object and may take legal means to block the .Sound front parcels from being downzoned to 1 acre as that violates for no reason the Town Master Plan (see 5 . 36 figure A7 JAC Planning Corp. of the Environmental Impact Statement) . This violation of the Town Master Plan in the Coastal Zone has an impact from the New York State level . Adequate discussion and input has been conducted from New York State on this matter and the proposed situation of 1 acre parcels adjacent to the Sound is illegal. Page 5. 43 of the proposal addresses "communal use of the site ' s waterfront" . The land as now deeded runs from the mean high water line upland. Does this mean that there will be a common beach from the mean high water line to the base of the bluff? The bluff erodes at- an average of 1 foot per year in the area. This is from my measurements as well as LILCO' s geological work which I could supply to the Board. In a report commissioned by and paid for by the Town of Southold (as an ally with me) against the LILCO project, Dr . Douglas Glaser, an expert geologist from Duke University, states that the bluffs must be allowed to erode naturally to provide beach nourishment in conjunction with the west-to-east 'litoral drift. The comment on page A47 proposes building a stone wall at the base of the bluff . This is naive. •agd obviously written by someone who is not an expert. One' only has to look to the east near Mattituck Inlet to notice the railroad tie structure built at great expense by Dr. McCoy which was supposed to accomplish the same function. The wall caused the beach level to drop in front of it, causing collapse and further instability and erosion from the bluff side as well as the ends . Since my property is adjacent to the Wanat beach I would have to file a legal objection to the construction of such a seawall because the same natural phenomenon would occur.. Another naive proposal is to vegetate the bluff with crownvetch to prevent erosion. I personally have attempted to grow various species of vegetation on the bluff since 1946 . It is extremely difficult, as the clay and sand strata get to be brick-like in summer. The wind coming across the Sound dries vegetation , with intense force and a high degree of salt spray. Native bay berry , beach plums and poison ivy do moderately well . Crownvetch does not. My family is associated with expert landscapers (the owners of Atlantic Nurseries in Dix Hills) . We have tried crownvetch and it does not last. A basic problem is trying to water any vegetation on the bluff . Updraft renders watering from the top ineffective. The deck that is proposed would not last as designed. There are winters where the beach level drops 3 feet. The proposed 4 foot deep cement piles below beach level would be precariously inadequate. Swirling and wave action would scour the final foot. Ice forms on the beach and outward for several hundred feet in winter. Frost, and ice heaves would do quick work on the pilings of this structure. I doubt whether .the structure would last 1 year. Furthermore, any man made structure of this size would constitute a groin which would cause erosion to the east. Extensive documentation exists from the Levon project, the LILCO proposal and Dr. Glaser' s work to ,substantiate this statement. The New York State Coastal Zone Management as well as residents of the area would have serious verbal and legal objections to such a structure. The proposal of such a structure in light of the recent history of the area is again very naive and does not present a professional or expert view. A contradiction exists between pages 5. 54 and 5. 55. On page 5. 54 a projection of 294 residents is stated. On page 5.55 the number is 401 residents . The number of automobiles would certainly exceed 160 and I again find it naive to say that there would be no impact on air quality. Let us look at the population -density on the common beach. On a hot day we can project a beach population of 400 to 500 residents and guests. The beach width at high tide is about 50 feet. A rough calculation of useable beach is 30 , 000 square feet, or 60 square feet per person. That is a beach person density higher than at Jones Beach. Remember that the adjacent beaches are private property. above the high water mark, so these residents and guests must be confined to the Wanat beach. If the roads in the proposed development were to be dedicated to the Town of Southold, they would be public roads . This means the beach might be accessible to any Southold resident. Even with only the residents using the beach, the Town of Southold would be creating a densely populated public beach. Are lifeguards to be employed? Will safety swimming areas be roped off? Will this beach be chained off? What about refuse? It would be hard to believe that 300 to 500 people would not create waste. Can the Sound support that many bathers in a very small beach area? Can the shower area proposed in page 5,. 55 and inadequately addressed support this population? Where would the shower water runoff? There is no mention of rest rooms -- 100 , 200 , 300 , 400 , 500 people on the beach with no restrooms -- this is naive ! Coastal Zone Management would certainly require much more detail on this . What is being proposed is essentially a public beach! There is no plan proposed -- I object and my neighbors object. Would the Mattituck Park District be involved? From newspaper reports, they seem to be having problems running the Mattituck beach. In summary, I think that Joe Wanat should be allowed to submit a subdivision plan of 2 acre parcels compatible with the R-80 Master Plan Zoning for his Sound front property. Sale of those parcels would surely generate -enough capital to keep the remainder of his land in agricultural use. Perhaps 1 or 2 parcels could also be subdivided along Bergen Avenue for residential ,use. With the remainder of the land for agricultural use, a coffin nail would not be put in the area ' s main industry -- agriculture. I personally feel that Joe Wanat and his .family would be comfortable with this approach. Let the New York City developers find a more suitable location to build their high density housing. As a father of three sons in their twenties with one granddaughter I am acutely aware of the need for affordable housing for the next generation. However, there are still a number of parcels in Mattituck for this purpose without having to break up a major "keystone" farm, which could very well spell the death knoll for agriculture in the North Western Mattituck area. 1l 1 • 1 f 8 - I I III /' ' ••� '/ / a`•f f ALTER-NATIV S I TE A—c � ILI R-80 M .t•pl• I ' '' O A SI �•`'• i 0 ITR R-8o r A+C MAr'rrMK 2 H9r" a v LIO R-80 40 1 ; _ $ f I .1 � { •4f p t { R - , f Date FIgU ' A7 ISheet of •mLY, 1988 NORRIS ESTATES_ / DEVELOPMENT DEIS Scale In Feet ZONING Source: Master Plan Update, Last revised ill = 2,000 VE SITE May 1, 1987 JAC PLAN iP• 5-36 c o��FFou��o Town Hall, 53095 Main Road �O • P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823 TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD July, 13, 1989 i 0 9 I= 1 JUL 1 3 19,99 L _ Southold Town Planning Board -- '? RD Southold Town Hallf i F'fi1i JG s' Southold, New York 11971 Gentlemen: Transmitted herewith is a certified resolution of the Southold Town Board whereby they propose, on their own motion, to change the zone on the property owned by Richard Carr at New Suffolk Avenue and Camp Mineola Road, Mattituck, from Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District to Low Density Residential R-40 District. Please prepare an official report defining the conditions described in said petition and determine the area so affected by your recommendation, and transmit the same to me. Thank you. Very truly yours, Judith T. Terry Y Southold Town Clerk Attachment cc: John J. Hart, Esq. O��FF o�CD z • Town Hall, 53095 Main Road O O� P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823 TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS 1S TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JULY' 5, 1989: WHEREAS, the Town Board deems it in the public interest and in the promotion of the health, safety, morals or general welfare of the Town of Southold that certain premises at New Suffolk Avenue and Camp Mineola Road (also known as Reeve Avenue) , Mattituck, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000- 122-5-4, owned by Richard Carr, hereinafter more fully described, be rezoned from Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District to Low Density Residential R-40 District; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Zoning Code of the Town of Southold, including the Zoning Map forming a part thereof, be amended by the Town Board on its own motion by changing from Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District to Low Density Residential R-40 District, the following described premises: ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land, situate, lying and being in Mattituck, Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and .State of New York, bounded and described as follows : BEGINNING at a point on the easterly side of a twenty-five (25) foot right-of-way sometimes known as Reeve Avenue, distant thereon South 17 degrees 41 minutes 20 seconds West 220.51 feet from the corner formed by the intersection of the southerly side of New Suffolk Avenue and the easterly side of said. right-of-way; RUNNING THENCE along the east- erly side of said right-of-way the following three (3) courses and distances: (1) South 16 degrees 7 minutes 00 seconds West 550.85 feet; (2) South 7 degrees 32 minutes 00 seconds West 519,57 feet; and (3) South 7 degrees 7 minutes 00 seconds West 667.65 feet to land now or formerly of Reeve; THENCE along said land, North 86 degrees 47 minutes 40 seconds East 300. 00 feet; THENCE South 8 degrees 00 minutes 20 seconds East 98. 19 feet; THENCE North 86 degrees 34 minutes 20 seconds West 509.00 feet to land now or formerly of Norris; THENCE along said land the following two (2) courses and distances: (1) North 7 degrees 31 minutes 10 seconds West 523 feet; (2) North 7 degrees 30 minutes 20 seconds East 1195.61 feet, more or less, to other land of Bruce A. Norris; THENCE along .said land the following four (4) courses and distances: (1) North 73.degrees 38 minutes 30 seconds West 121.88 feet; (2) North 77 degrees 53 minutes 20 seconds West 96.70 feet; (3) North 77 degees 45 minutes 30 seconds West 91 .78 feet; and (4) North 76 degrees 27 minutes 30 seconds West 312.78 feet to the point or place of BEGINNING. AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized and directed to transmit this Resolution to the Southold Town Planning Board and the Suffolk County Department of Planning all in accordance with the Code of the Town of Southold and the Suffolk County Charter. ud It T. Terry Southold Town Clerk July 10, 1989 o Town Hall, 53095 Main Road n • P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823 TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS IS TO CERTIFY .THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JULY 5, 1989: RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, State Environmental Quality Review Act, and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 6.17. 10, and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that the .Southold Town Board, in conducting an uncoordinated review of this unlisted action, has determined that there will be no significant effect on the environment. Description of Action: Proposed change of zone, on the Town Board's own motion, on the parcel of land owned by Richard Carr, under tax map No. 1000-122-5-4, from Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District to Low Density Residential R-40 District. The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the environment because an Environmental Assessment Form has been submitted and reviewed and the Town Board has concluded that no significant adverse effect to the environment is likely to occur should the project be implemented as planned, inasmuch as the density allowed in the Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District is greater than the density allowed under the Low Density Residential R-40 District, therefore the change of zone will not have a detrimental effect on the environment, but rather will be an improvement thereon. Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk July 10, 1989 �o • e - m .. 9 LOCATION MAP ., SCALE, I =6O0 ., ,,, , F:Ij � SO, OW e'f siP I';G 80AI0 P. O. Drawer A Jamesp'ort, NY 11947 June 29, 1989 Bennett Orlowski, Jr. , Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 RE: Marina Bay Club 1000-117-8-18 and Norris/Carr/Wanat 1000-122-5-4 Dear Mr. Orlowski: Cliffside/Tidemark , Please be advised that I have notified by clients with regard to your letter of June 19, 1989 requesting additional fees for environmental review. These clients are reviewing these requests at this time. Sincerely, � nM Henry E5 Rayn , J . HER:ml CC : Richard Carr R PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I10 (1891-1943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDE ICL.A WO PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (19SO-1980) KEVIN A.SEAMAN TEL. 516 447—8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN* OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG FAX 516 475-5651 447-8906 �1 �� j rJ.-,_--_ _ ���DOUGLASJ.LEROSE. -- ,trp _• - BRIAN McCAFFREY" JAMES G.HYLAND - --""`-�-=i" AUG 3 r� 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA a f "ALSO ADMITTED IN ILLINOIS °J� August 2, 1989 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Planning Department Bennett Orlowski, Jr. , Chairman RE: MARINA BAY CLUB (SCTM *1000-117-8-18) - and - NORRIS/CARR/WANAT (SCTM 41000-122-5-4) Dear Mr . Orlowski: We are in receipt of copies of your letters to Mr. Raynor dated July 26, 1989 , regarding our client ' s outstanding bills for environmental reviews . Your prior letter to him of June 19th, 1989 , listed the various dates and fees submitted to your department by David Emilita for services rendered. However, many of the dates submitted by Mr . Emilita for the Marina Bay Club review have no explanation of the charges and none of the dates for the Norris/Carr/Wanat review have any explanation whatsoever . They are listed as follows: Marina Bay Club Date Fee Explanation 2/1/88 $ 140. DEIS Review 5/3/88 125 . DEIS 7/5/88 7.90. ---- 8/26/88 70. ---- 10/25/88 35 . ---- 11/88 100. ---- 12/88 175 . ---- PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Page 2 . August 2, 1989 Town of Southold Marina Bay Club - Cont ' d Date Fee Explanation 1/30/89 150. DEIS 3/1/89 2, 915 . FEIS 3/28/89 1, 310— ---- 4/27/89 160. FEIS TOTAL: $5, 670. Norris/Carr/Wanat Date Fee Explanation 7/88 $ 685 . ---- 7/88 1, 200. ---- 8/88 900. ---- 9/88 435 . ---- 10/88 700. ---- 11/88 1, 185 . ---- 12/88 315 . ---- TOTAL: $5,420. Your letter states that a total of $3 , 970. 00 is owed on the Marina project. Our records regarding payments submitted to the town are as follows: 1. On 8/17/87 a check for $2,000 was submitted along with the DEIS. This check was to cover the review of the DEIS. 2 . An "augmentation" fee of $2,000 was paid on 2/19/88 . 3 . Supplement *1 was delivered to the town on 3/11/88 . 4 . Supplement *2 was delivered to the town on 5/18/88 . Therefore, the total paid to the town on the Marina project was $4,000. Has this amount been credited to the applicant and are these charges of $3 , 970 in addition to the $4,000 already paid? As to Norris/Carr/Wanat, our records indicate that the DEIS was submitted on June 1, 1988, and then again on 8/12/88 . The addendum was received by the town on 10/17/88 . We have no record of any checks being sent to the town from our office to cover review fees on Norris/Carr/Wanat. The amount listed PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Page 3 . August 2 , 1989 Town of Southold above of $5, 420 coincides with the figure in your letter; however, no indication is given as to the services rendered . Before payment is issued, we would appreciate an explanation and documentation of each charge listed . for each project. Thank you for your cooperation. Very truly yours, LLETREAU & PELLETREAU c CJF n J . Oar:hmm cc: Richard Carr Henry Raynor James A. Schondebare, Esq. 1U/51-53 q c Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 ^ � Southold. New York 1 1971 TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD June 19, 1989 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Norris/Carr/Wanat SCTM #1000-12.2-5-4 Dear Mr. Raynor: A review of our books indicates that the fees for the environmental review of the above-referenced project subject to the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act have exceeded. the initial monies you have paid to the Planning Board to cover the environmental review. Enclosed you will find a copy of the bills that were sent -to the Planning Board. by its environmental consultant, Szepatowski Associates, Inc. for the review of the above-named project. It would be appreciated if you would submit the balance,. which is $5 ,420. 00, to this office by July 3 , 1989. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Ve my yours, BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN cc: James A. Schondebare, Town Attorney John A. Cushman, Town Accountant. R 2 0 19.89 1 SOUTHOLD TOWN COVENANTS AND RESTRI TIONSPLANNINGBOARD The undersigned, RICHARD T. CARR, residing at c/o Shamrock Properties, 350 5th Avenue, New York, New York. 10118 (hereinafter "CARR"), having filed a Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for premises owned by him at .Mattituck. Town of Southold, County of Suffolk Dist. and State of New York, bounded and described as shown in Exhibit "A", 1000 attached hereto and made a part hereof (hereinafter the "Norris Sect. Property"), in connection with the development of such property zoned 122 "M" Light-Multiple Residence District (presently Hamlet Density) . Block And in connection with such DEIS, having shown as an alternative 5 proposal use of the premises as amended by the owners to include a reduction in the number of residential units to be built on the Norris Lot 4 Property from Hamlet Density to that in accordance with Article IIIA (Low Density Residential R-40 District) .of_the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Southold combined with a rezoning of premises owned by the undersigned, JOSEPH A. WANAT, residing at Bergen Avenue, Mattituck,- New York (hereinafter "WANAT") such property, containing approximately 107.6 acres, being bounded and described as shown in Exhibit "B" attached hereto and made a.part. hereof (hereinafter the "Wanat Property") : said rezoning, which was-joined in by CARR as contract vendee, requested a change of zone from "A" Residential Agricultural District (now Agricultural Conservation A-C District) to "M" Light Multiple-Residence District (now Hamlet Density) and thereafter voluntarily amended to Low Residential R-40 District . AND the petition for Change of Zone having come on to be heard before the Town Board of the Town of Southold (hereinafter "Town Board") on March 14, 1989, and the Town Board having determined after due deliberation that the public health, safety and welfare of the Town of Southold and its residents, would be best served by the Wanat Property (described in Exhibit "B") be rezoned to R-40 in accordance with Article I I IA (Low Density Residential R-40 District) of the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Southold upon the condition that the undersigned covenant to restrict the number of residential units to be erected on the Norris Property: Such covenants and restrictions to run with the land and to be binding upon the undersigned his heirs, successors and assigns: NOW THEREFORE the undersigned does covenant as follows: I. That the Norris Property, as described in Schedule "A", attached hereto and made a part hereof, be developed in accordance with Article IIIA Low Density Residential District. 2. That this covenant shall run with theiamc and shad -be- binding upon the heirs, successors and assigns Qf the declarant hereto and may not be changed, except by a further agreement in writing executed by the then owners of the premises affected -and by the Town Board of the Town of Southold. IN WITNESS WHEREOF the declarant have executed the foregoing covenants and restrictions this �day of April, 1989. 7 4..RHA D T. CARR STATE OF NEW YORK) ss. COUNTY OF SUFFOLK) On this day of April, 1989, before me personally came RICHARD T. ARR, to me known and known to me to be the person described in and who executed the foregoing instrument and he acknowledged to me that he executed the same. m s on a are JA48Sa.ffickoNn 1► rQ gtst�a-y A d�In2SWia jh43 7�+5•`. .. . 'i•�, '.� 1. .9; 15".a :q. Z�1 r.. t•' . a:..'7 •►r.,"• ••, „y.�•.•.•;1,..'' �„r— _ _ �':�i.it. +''�'��:�'. •.,.�.i c�L.. 1y\ 'a�!'��L+yf �"!'?'.c ti: �.f .,,r �tia.t-`,• ;/.•'.r ± '. 7 ,.. I W P CEL I: , e, plot, piece or parcel of land, with the buildings and improvements thereon erected, situate, tying and bring i at Mattituck, Ton of Southcfid, County of Suffolk and State of New York, bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING at a point on the easterly side of a twenty-five (25) foot right-' of-sway scmnetimes known as Reeve Avenue, distant thereon South 170 41' 201, Nest 220.51. feet from the corner funned by the intersection of the southerly side of New Suffolk Avenue and the easterly side of said right-of-way; RUNNING THERM along the easterly side of said right-of-way the following three (3) courses and distances: �. (1) South 16° 7' 00" West 550.85 feet; (2) South -70 32' 00" West, 519.57 feet; and (3) South 70 7' 00" West 667.65 feet to land now or formerly of Reeve; F 7H= along said land, South 860 47' 40" East 809.45 feet to other land nay or formerly of Norris; Tfi XE along said land the following two (2) courses and distances; (1) North 70 31' 10" West 423 feet; a (2) North 70 30' 20" East 1195.61 feet, more or less, to other land of Bruce A. Norris; THENCE along said land the followina four (4) courses and distances: E: (1) North 73° 36' 30" West 121.88 feet; (2) North 770 53' 20" West 96.70 feet; (3) North 770 45' 30" West 91.78 feet; and k` (4) North 760 27' 30" West 312.78 feet to the point or place of BMINNING, !� TOGETHER with a non-exclusive right-of-way 50 feet in width running from the southerly side of New Suffolk Avenue southe.rly along lands formerly of George Brooks and along land being conveyed herein, a total distance of 400 feet for ingress and egress and taliation of underground utilities, which right-of-way ; i and described as follows: BF7G1?`'.-LN at a point on the southe lyesi of N particularly ffolk�Avenue at a monument at the northeasterly corner of land now of Norris, formerly of ' Brooks; RUI CLENC', :7,�M the following two (2) courses and distances-- (I) South 70 92' ' West 224.34 feet; (2) South 7° 30' 20" •West 175.66 feet; RUNNING THENCE in an easterly direction on a line draom perpendicular tc the aforesaid course a distance of 50 feet; RUNNING THENCE northerly along a line which is 50 feet easterly of the first two F courses above mentioned approximately 420 feet to the southerly side of. New Suffolk Avenue; RUNNING THEWM westerly along the southerly side of New Suffolk Avz2nue approximately 50 feet to the point or place of BEGINNING. i ' .. 'r. •. a, `;i• '�.% r.-;�. -- b.:r�.,::;:,.=-y-•tea• - - --- - » - - = - - - - _ -- ICM that certain plot, Piece or . • i �. . • nmm of Southold, 0ounty of Suffolk and Stbtee of New situate lyiM and and described follows: BEGINN= at the northwesterly corner of the premises about to be described, fir of beginning is distant South 86° 47' 40" East 300.00 feet as ad" the northerly side of a 20 foot right-of-fey, of a Private Road known as from a ��t located in the.e3Sterl, "Camp Mineola mod" also known as " monument is located 1,958.58 feet southerly as measured al Reeve Avenue-, de Private Road known as Camp Mineola mod" fr ly the easterly side c the southerly side of New SZuffolk THENCE tnlpo2t or ace Of beginning, land now rNo is, thefoo ng courses and distances: formerly (1) South 86° 47' 40" East, 509.45 feet to a monument; and (2) South 70 32' 10" East, 100.00 feet to a monument and land now or formerly pj-'N= TKD4CE along said last mentioned land and along land now or formerly of Jaquyllard and along land now or formerly of Johanna M. Sim , North 86° 34' 20" West, 509.00 feet to land now or formerly of Laurence P. Reeve; P� NG THENCE along said last mentioned land, North 8° 00' 20" West, 98.19 feet land now or formerly of Norris at the point or place of BEGIMING. a0GEIssi with a right of ingress and egress to the party of the second part, his } and assigns, in, to and over a strip of land twenty (20) feet in width extending i the northwesterly corner of the above described Preni-sus f a.in widthterly extending direction a the southerly side of land now or formerly of Bruce A. Norris to the easterly side a Private Road, also known as "camp Mineola Road", also known as " " northerly line of said right-of-way bears North 860 47-140" West and has a length 300.00 feet; and the south line is parallel thereto. B'DJG AND IN=ED 70 BE a portion of the same premises conveyed to Bruce A. Norri deed dated 9/23/83, recorded 9/30/83 in the Suffolk OcuntY Clerc's Office in Lib+s 9434, page 169. ToGrr EP wath an easement over other land of Norris as described belowin favor of premises described herein for the party of the second part: his heirs, successors maintain r assigns, to drill, install and maintain a well and water ntain and r s' lay, his eplace underground pipes and system and es PLmp and to enter upon the premises described below to do such other things as may be necessary to install and ,int$i, such system, together with the right to construct and use for well points within i easeTient herein granted. The party of the first part, for themselves, their heirs, successors and assigns, agree that no cesspools, septic tanYs, or se gage treatrrn^. facilities of any type shall be constructed or installed within a foot radius of such well points, except those that t�.o hundred (200) becares necessary for the ,Tangy}' exist. In the event i praruses described below for the the send part or his assigns to enter upon the water es des, the party of the a Purposesec of maintenance or repairing the well and disturbed to their prior condition. The of to psecondrouptly restore the premises days' notice of inte7t to.enter the premises party of mall give five H 9anc]' requiring earlier entry upon the premises is nece�ses unless an such water supply system is not installed within five, 5 are In the event tha: this easement shall be terminated and shall no to an' ( ) years from the date hereof described below•. The premises subject-_tcZ_.tha afc be a burden upon the premises follows: BEX;I2'4= at a resaid ;,asaTent is described as point distant the follo.•ing t,, (2) courses and distances from a land on the south side of New Suffolk Avenue at the northeasterly corner other larr3 of Norris, formerly of Brm}:s: (1) South 7° 42' West 22e s9 feet: (2) 7° 30' 20" west 110 feet; from said easterly boundary Point"of beginning, RfIIiti* ��,. along the dory of the premises conveyed above South 71 30' 20" West B00 feet; RIMING THENCE in an easterly direction perpendicular to the aforesaid course a ash other land of Norris a Tyne b of land of Norris aril to land no, or form tY 555 feet to the easterly bounder THENCE in a northerlyr1Y of the Matti direction tmck Air Base; RUt LNG along easterly boundary of land of Norris B00 fec THENCE in a westerly direction across land of Norris appr�imatel}, 535 feet i the point or place of BEGINKING, r.- ::g ALL that certain ploy. piece or parcel of* land, with the buildings and improvements thereon erected. situate, lying and being at Mattituck. Town of Southold. County of* Suffolk and State of New York, bounded and described as . follows: BEGINNING at a point which connects the northerly side of . Bergen Avenue with the westerly side of land now or formerly of Joseph T. Macari and Louis F. Simeone and from said point of beginning; RUNNING THENCE along the northerly side of Bergen Avenue. South 670 10 ' 40" West. 685. 93 feet to an angle point in Bergen Avenue. CONTINUING THENCE along the westerly side of Bergen Avenue. on a course bearing South 200 49 ' 50" East , 61 . 62 feet . CONTINUING THENCE along land now or formerly of William and Tompkins D. Entenmann: 1. South 590 491, 301, West, 200 feet; 2. North-1200 42 ' 30" West, 49. 99 feet: 3. South 560 13 ' 50" West. 258 . 98 feet ; 4 . North 210 50 ' 20" Nest, 429 . 45 feet ; 5. North 220 29 ' 50" West. 819.71 feet; 6. North 210 14 ' 40" West, 643 .02 feet; 7. North 220 11 ' 50" West, 392. 02 feet to a point and land now or formerly of John and Rose Koroleski . CONTINUING THENCE along said land of John and Rose Koroleski : 1 . North 710 23 ' 10" East , 95 . 00 feet ; 2. North 210 17 ' 50" West . 773 . 70 feet ; 3 . North 220 03 ' 501, West , 305 .71 feet to a point and land now or formerly of William Charles Hees _ CONTINUING THENCE along said land of'- William Charles Hees. North 220 27-' 50" West , 925 feet to a tie-line along the approximate high-water mark of the Long Island Sound . CONTINUING THENCE along said tie-line of the Long Island Sound . - North 690 43 ' 18" East. 651 . 62 feet to a point and other land now or formerly of Joseph A_ Wanat_ CONTINUING THENCE along said other land of Joseph A_ Wanat. South 220 31 ' 10" East. 770. 38 feet . "- RUNNING THENCE partially along said other land of Joseph A_ Wanat . and land now or formerly of Doris K. Brown and land now or formerly of Patri-ck Carrig and' Mark S. McDonald. North 840 10 ' 30" East . 574 . 20 feet to a point and land now or formerly Of' Joseph T. Macari and Louis F_ Simeone. thence South 220 31 ' 10" East . 2. 228 . 31 feet . y 1 CONTINUING THENCE along said land of Joseph .T. Macari and Louis F. Simeone, South 65* 45 ' 50" West. 139 . 16 feet . THENCE South 180 03 ' 10" East, 522.42 feet . CONTINUING THENCE along said land of Joseph T. Macari and Louis F. Simeone. South 200 10 ' 10" East, 475. 61 feet to the north side of Bergen Avenue and the point or place of BEGINNING. 0080U/1-2 :A PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.ROE.III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 (189I-1943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD BRUCE T.WALLACE PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 419SO-1980) KEVIN A.SEAMAN TEL. 516 447-B900 ROBE PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG FAX 516 475-5651 OF COUNSEL DOUGLAS J.LEROSE 447-8906 BRIAN G.HYL n nl7 17 JAMES G.HYLANDND ILiu 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA April 4, 1989AM - 5 90 Town of Southold SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Hon. Francis J . Murphy and Town Board Members RE: NORRIS ESTATES and CARR/WANAT Change of Zone Dear Supervisor Murphy - Town Board Members : Enclosed please find proposed Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions covering both the Norris Estates and Carr/Wanat parcels. If there is anything further you require or which you wish to discuss - please let me know. Thank you. Very truly yours, LETREAU & PELLETREAU J 'h J. Har JFH:hmm Encl . cc : See annexed Rider. 1U/94 PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider April 4, 1989 Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Ellen Larsen James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth E-dwards, -member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Robert Berntsson, Esq. 1U/95 COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS The undersigned. RICHARD T. CARR. residing at c/o Shamrock Properties. 350 5th Avenue. New York. New York 10118 (hereinafter "CARR") . having filed a Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS)for premises owned by him at Mattituck. Town of Southold. County of Suffolk and State of New York. bounded and described as shown in Exhibit "A" . attached hereto and made a part hereof" (hereinafter the "Norris Property") . in connection with the development of such property zoned "M" Light-Multiple Residence District (presently Hamlet density) with a permitted density of 132 residential units; with 168 units being proposed. And in connection with such DEIS. having shown as an alternative proposal use of the premises to include a reduction in the number of residential units to be built on the Norris Property from 108 to 25 combined with a rezoning of premises owned by the undersigned. JOSEPH A. WANAT. residing at Bergen Avenue. Mattituck, New York (hereinafter "WANAT") such property being bounded and described as shown in Exhibit "B" . attached hereto and made a part hereof (hereinafter the "Wanat Property") ; said rezoning. which was joined in by CARR as contract vendee. requested a change of zone from "A" Residential Agricultural District to "M" Light Multiple-Residence District (now Hamlet Density) for the erection of 107 single family residential units and said number having been reduced to 88 by the petitioner. AND the Petition for Change of Zone having come on to be heard before the Town Board of the Town of Southold (hereinafter "Town Board") on March 14 . 1989. and the Town Board having determined after due deliberation that the. proposed alternative. as set forth in the Norris Property DEIS. was the best use of the premises as described in Schedules "A" and "B" and in the best interests of the Town of Southold and its residents. and that the premises known as the Wanat Property (described in Exhibit "B") be rezoned to Hamlet density permitting the erection on said premises of 88 single family residential units upon the condition that the undersigned. and both of them. covenant to restrict the number of residential units to be erected on the Norris and Wanat Properties: Such covenants and restrictions to run with the land and to be binding upon the undersigned their heirs. successors and assigns: NOW. THEREFORE. the undersigned do covenant as follows: 1. That the number of units to be erected on the premises known as the Norris Property. as described in Schedule "A". attached hereto and made a part hereof. be reduced from 108 to 25 single family residential units and such garages and such other appurtenant out buildings as are common to single family residential units. all in accordance with 5100 of the Zoning Ordinance of the Town of Southold; and 2. That the number of units to be erected upon the Wanat Property. as described in Schedule "B" . be reduced from 107 units to 88 single family residential units to be built on lots having at least 40.000 square feet and such garages and other appurtenant out buildings as are common to single family residential units. all in accordance with §100 of the Zoning Ordinance; and 3. That this covenant shall run with the land and shall be binding upon the heirs. successors and assigns of the parties 2 - hereto and may not be changed, except by a further agreement in writing executed by the then owners of the premises affected and . by the Town Board of the Town of Southold. IN WITNESS WHEREOF the parties have executed the foregoing covenants and restrictions this day of 1989. RICHARD T. CARR JOSEPH A. WANAT STATE OF NEW YORK) ) ss. . COUNTY OF SUFFOLK) On 1989. .before me personally came RICHARD T. CARR, to me known and known to me to be the person described in and who executed the foregoing instrument and he acknowledged to me that he executed the same. Notary STATE OF NEW YORK) ss. . COUNTY OF SUFFOLK) On 1989. before me personally came JOSEPH A. WANAT, to me known and known to me to be the person described in and who executed the foregoing instrument and he acknowledged to me that he executed the same. Notary 2244C/1-3 3 - F IAR.0 E L I : Aja"_ ftr ,ruin plot, piece or parcel of Land, with the buildings and impm-ements thereon erected, situate, 'ring 8rtd kft at :!at tituck, Town of Southwla, Cevnty of Suffolk and State of New York, htandOd anc4, descri].�,_-3 as fo11 ; INNMNIG at a point on tl',- easterly side of a twenty-five (25) foot right- of-way sUrostirles krK7,an as peeve Avenue, distant thereon South 170 41' 20" :7est; 220.51, feet frcrn the corner ford by tha intersectio.i of the southerly side of New Suffolk Avenue ar4 the easterly side of said right-of-way; FL.�TInr- T"Mx= along t`;e easterly side of said ri,ghtof-way the following three (3) courses aral distances: (1) South 160 7' 00" :Test 550.85 feet; (2) South 7' 32' 00" West, 519. 57 feet; and : (3) South 70 7' 00" West 667.65 feet to land now or foxmexly of Reeve; T�O:TKZ along said land, South 86° 47' 60" cast 809.45 feet to other !and n � or formrly or Norris; Irr= along said land the following two (2) courses and distances; i (1) North 70 31' 10" 'Test 423 feet; (2) 70 30' 20e1 East 1195.61 feet, mare or less, to other land of B-Oce A. Norri .; i Tl a ong said la,-A the follcn� j-:o faux (4) courses and distances. (1) Nor.t.}, 731, 3E t 30" West 121.89 feet; (2) North 770 53' 20" West 96.70 feet) (3) North 770 45' 301; West 91.78 fe,-tt and (4) North 760 271 30" west 312.78 feet to the Merit or place of SMGj .,,D4G. ^:� ; with a nc�n-e�rClus,it,'a rio?;t-fix-.w v 50 feet in width r+.mnirg fr= the southerly side Of Vew Sw¢folx Avenue, sc,,'jtherIv alonq lands f�,,►�rly of G K-)rae Braoks and along rand b-e.Lr,;� convoyed hey.©ih, a total dista.r�ce of 400 feet for i+ :ess a dress and _nstaliat ion: of t:.* ?ens -cu..c? utilities, which ;.•fight--o`-way is more 1p, Licular?y hmmied and descn-ced as at a PoL'nt on the southerly side of N€A, Suffolk venue z:t a tronu nt at t; ;th �;erly comer of lama rc,w of Norris, formerly of the fcllcx,'irr t ao (2) courses and distar; s: {]) South 7° 42` west 22�1. 3; fc t; (2) South 7° 30' 20" West 175.66 feet; RLrt,?:I,�G fire an easterly d rwct:cr, O^ a "'ne dr avrr. P:rx'Kliculax to the &foresaid Ccurse a distance of 5o fc*et; "U%VD.G Ti3OK-E norteharif c.long a iir, whA4h IS 50 feet easterly of the first two sources ;'.t^ve I-r-- ;tlor�. aop.rox,dr�t,G1.y 420 fit: to t) southerly side of. New bUffolk ,venue; Ri✓' llh� x', '-'; s�,erly along the 5idP of New Sur folk A,.; ue : pprcximetely 50 fit to t�,o point or plaoe of 8EGA,,N,?XNG. ( i nu. WVM w wa.6 r-..., r+.aoe uz pia vi Jana, tiituate, lyirx3 w-4 bei„g-ht Town of -'Vutnold, Countb' of•9uffolk and &tits of New York, bvundad and d4acr1ixxl o, follows r swusanc of the nort�atesly oosner Of the lsxesrtit+es about to be described, w„G, of northerly is distant South 869 47' 40" rASt 300.00 16--t AS nwpured along ti:%• northeriv :e P ad a 20 foot right-of-ney, fr'Om a rstn;Wht located in the.aastar:; ,lof a Private Faced kmwn as "C� , K neola F ad" also known as "Reeve Avert �,t s", -W.- mrruarar t is 1cCaud 1,95B.5B feet fejutharly as Massred along the easterly sick• Private kad knorm as "OL.np 1''.ir,t:ola Fcad" f= the soatharly side of Now 5�1ffols. ; RLTZID4 T D,C£ frar. said point or place of !>winnaxl, along land now or fomrerly Norris, the fo2lowl»g tti (2) �ttzses and diutxvtss (1) Wirth 096" 47' 40" East, $09.45 feet to a m:nurrentl and (2) Sokrth 71 32'Aa.1 a�,sy 1 10." E,sst, 100.00 f**t to a mmmaoent and land now or fo Mrly c)f RUN'-'W :"k7 along said ]art mentioned land and e1,-nq lan n� Jam i-H al West, " or* lard now or formerly of Johanna M. .' or forrrrsrly of sind rn o, North 86° 3A' 20" 509,00 feat to Lsnd now or formerly of laurence Reeve) FU4-KING THN—^v .among said last mentioned land, UQrth 80 00. 20" west, 98.19 feet to land now or forrrsxly of Norris at the point or place of F1i:C21N_-r4. '1gCMMR with a right of ingress me egreas to the panty of the second per, his nc: the rorth and resigns, in, to and over a E;tzip of land twenty (20) feet in width e(tending fr-, '•est�ly corner of the At*, a descri.,bod prennises in a resterly direction alp• Ghe Fatherly site of lard now or fosT-N--"ly of Bruce A. Norris to the easterly rid: r. o Pr ivstt F*ad, also )v c. , as " p Gamp MinEo,s F�,d", al so Yr,o r as "lir�e��• �,,e.rn.34 ^, 11nOrt.Merly lit,. of said right-of-wy bars North 86° 47' 40" t,k:st &nd has a of I 300.00 iaet; 8rtd the avuth 14.pe is parallel therato. II BEL14 AJM DnT"M ro BF a poi-ticn of the acme prar%ises conveyed to Bruce A. Norris :'•I deed datad 9/23/83, recorded 9/30/83 in the &4ffolk c}xvuy Clerk's afliea in LiYar 9434, page 169. j ' with an ea-qa7rent over other land of NO:ris as described bolos' in fn:or c! : pam Wes dew M:Jed herein for the party o! the aenond Fart, his heirs, s,:ccEs:;ruS a 4;-gns, ta, doi11, instal. and Mintain a ur,l) and t.r,t•er rapply cyst&;. and u. lob. maintain and replaces underground piers and :'4, and tc u ter u n v,e,� pre-^;se s des r;ctid be1Gv to do such oG`Ier things as ray be naeecrary tc irs`.a?1 and mi.,t.4-r.- systan, tcYether with the right to const.ract and use Fa,;s 11 points witr,in tt,c ease:.-nt herein granted, The ;.Arty of thc, first ;art, for tharsalvys, their heirs, If sacce.so:s ar;d assigns, agree ttl.9t no cYss,x�ols, septa tanYs, or sv.,eragG trearne^.t faCilitje: of ary type shall be constructed or installed within a t►r, hL, d td9 (20, �iAcOt radius Of such well points, except thOse- that cusrajtly exist, 1A the avant It > 7res nec�ssa:/ far the art` of the :� ffI / pa.-t or hie assigns to seater u,:tar. thE- r s5st s descr ed :elc�.' for the w.�nsv of msInt4r-ance or re;: ring trsc %.ell ant) Paft-y o.. the sameCrd P&M agre*E to pr:r.;:-,l�• restore the pres-_ser- i: disturted to is,e:: prior crnd;tion, ;he ,carry of tho sson:: FA-L t shall givt• f:vG i5r slays' notate of :ntC1t to enter the prrrtises for the aDilK• p-rtosas unless a: ' r+t-rJe-tiry rtq-uxiry e4xlier entry u.=; the pre:ises is ntcessa_^y, .n t)e evcVt thct &'uch wrt�•r eu;:5,ly syste+ is no: irsralle'd Within five (5) years £par, the dat; hereof,this ca�r,t alball lta tacrrmanatEd and sr:sll no longer be a ba:dam UPC,; the pr"ses descr -1 Ye;aw. •)Tle premises subjcr_rt '-o the aforesaid aasca :t is d®scrirx•f s><fGilt�.3: 6Fr:?r'1.^.G at a pd:,nt d:.scant the faller�y tu0 (21 cvuxa&s and dicta•,:es f frcn 8 msnrnv,c a, the souC1) sitar of', 5;:ifalY Avenue at Wlr,c norhe5surly c�n,e: Of oche la d of taarr:3. S nresly o. 7' 30' 20" V•'st 210 feet; 5Q's' (1) South 70 42' west 224.34 fEv•; i21 ' fran s.id point, of bog;,rtning, R,^t: 7 0,Y-- along.tJ,c easterly ba nasty o. tl;e pranis:s conveyed above Sfiat." i° 30' 2G" West 800 feet; Rat:�Y; 7r in &n easterly diaection U'LrOxgh otner lard of Norris in a sine :,G:cioela to U:a aforesaid CcursC c,pPrnr.yrat_ely 555 fcwt tc the easterly bO_vj,1a,ry of land of Norris are to land now or fo.^mrl O Y the h'ettirack ,..r ease,,r3L'v it a !rarcrerly dirWtim along the ens".tray Lwndarf of land Ofr"is 800 feet; Ft47�:"M. il3EJJCE ir; a 6estexly �'--'tc"Oi across land of Norris opp.=irraccly 535 free co t)-,e paint or place o. fk'�_nZnlv�, ALL that certain plot. piece or parcel of land. with the buildings and improvements thereon erected." situate. lying and being at Mattituck. Town 'of' Southold. County of Suffolk and State of New York. bounded and described as follows.: BEGINNING at a point which connects the northerly side of Bergen Avenue with the westerly side of land now or f'ormerly of Joseph T. I4acari and Louis F. Simeone and from said .point of beginning; RUNNING THENCE along the northerly side of Bergen Avenue. South 670 10' 40" West. 685.93 feet to an angle point in Bergen Avenue. CONTINUING THENCE along the westerly side of Bergen Avenue. on a course bearing South 200 49 ' 50" East. 61 . 62 feet . CONTINUING THENCE along land now or formerly of William and Tompkins D. Entenmann: 1_ South 590 49 ' 30" West. 200 feet; 2. North 200 42 ' 30" West. 49.99 feet; 3. South 560 13 ' 50" West. 258 .98 feet; 4 . North 210 501 20" West. 429 .45 feet; .5. North 220 291 50" West. 819 .71 feet; 6. North 210 14 ' 40" West. 643.02 feet; 7. North 220 11 ' 50" West. 392 .02 feet to a point and land now or formerly of John and Rose Koroleski . CONTINUING THENCE along said land of John and Rose Koroleski : 1 . North 710 23 ' 10" East. 95 .00 feet; 2. North 210 171 50" West. 773.70 feet ; -3 _ North 220 03 ' 50" West. 305 .71 f'eet to a point and land now or formerly of William Charles Hees. CONTINUING THENCE along said land of William Charles Hees. North 220 27 ' 50" West . 925 feet to a tie-line along the approximate high-water mark of the Long Island Sound . CONTINUING THENCE along said tie-line of the Long Island Sound. North 690 43 ' 18" East. 651 .62 feet to a point and other land now or formerly of Joseph A. Wanat . CONTINUING THENCE along said other land of Joseph A_ Wanat . South 220 31 ' 10" East . 770. 38 feet . RUNNING THENCE partially along said other land of Joseph A_ Wanat . and land now or formerly of Doris K. Brown and land now a or formerly of Patrick Carrig and Mark S. McDonald, North 84" 10 , 30" East. 574 .20 feet to a point and land now or formerly of Joseph T_ Macari and Louis F. Simeone. thence South 220 31 ' 10" East. 2.228. 31 feet . A w s SCHEDULE "A" - �Cont a.'-" CONTINUING THENCE along said land. of Joseph T. Macari and Louis F. Simeone. South 65" 45 , 50" hest. 139'. 16 feet . THENCE South 180 03 ' 10" East,—+522.42 feet . CONTINUING THENCE along said land of Joseph T. Macari and Louis F. Simeone. South 200 10, 10" East. 475.61 feet to the north side of Bergen Avenue and the point or place of BEGINNING. EXCLUDING THEREFROM the Homestead premises of Joseph Nanat consisting of a house and out-buildings and ten (10) 'acres more or less. situate on the southwest corner of the premises as shown on the Subdivision Sketch Plan prepared for Richard T. Carr dated September S. 1987 and prepared by Howard Young. Surveyor - 80U/3-4 d /� 5U�fQL� • Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD January 18, 1989 John J. Hart Pelletreau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street Patchouge, NY -11772 RE: Your January 13th, 1989 letter regarding Norris Estates and Carr/Wanat Dear Mr. Hart: Your letter did not indicate what material you feel comprises "all of the information provided by the developer". In order to ensure that a complete packet is provided to the Suffolk County Planning Commission. as per your instructions is is requested that you office send two sets of same to the Planning Board office as. soon as possible. One set will be sent to the Suffolk County Planning Commission under separate cove. The second set will be placed in our file for the public record. Ve •ruly yours, BENNETT ORLOWSKI ,JR. CHAIRMAN cc: Artur Kunz, Director, SCDP Charles Lind, SCPC Town Board James A. Schodebare, Town Attorney Dave Emilita, Environmental Consultant Henry Raynor jt PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.ROE.III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I10 (1891-1943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD BRUCE T.WALLACE PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) KEVIN A.SEAMAN - TEL.'516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG FAX 516 475-5651 DOUGLASJ.LEROSE 447-8906 � L BRIAN McCAFFREY JAMES G.HYLAND Ipp,i 1 7 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA ( � Jh,� 1989 li January. 13 , 1989 _ y SCi�TI-101 D!CIMIN Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Chairman, Planning Board Re: Carr/Wanat Change of Zone Dear Mr . Orlowski: We are in receipt of the Planning Board ' s January 9, 1989 Resolution recommending denial of the Change of Zone Application. Please provide us with an explanation for the basis of the Board ' s decision. Thank you. Very truly yours, P-ELLETREAU & PELLETREAU o n J . rtV JFH: lyn cc: See additional rider 03U(14) PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider January 13 , 1989 Hon. Francis J . Murphy Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emi.lita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher , McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young 03U(15) PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART JOHN J.ROE.III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I10 (1891-1943) RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGU E, NEW YORK 11772 (19SO-1980) RE WALLACE KEVIN A.SEAMAN TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG FAX 516 475-5651 DOUGLAS J.LEROSE 447-8906 BRIAN McCAFFREY _ JAMES G.HYLAND i T1� 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA JAN 1989 January 13 , 1989 SOUTNOLD T0W1 PLANNING BOARD L n� Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Valerie Scopaz Town Planner Re: Norris Estates and Carr/Wanat Dear Ms. Scopaz : On behalf of our client, we are requesting that when the Planning Board submits the DEIS to the Suffolk County Planning Commission for its review, that all of the information provided by the developer to the Planning Board be submitted as well. Thank you for your cooperation. Very truly yours, P ETREAU & PELLETREAU Jo J. 1 t JFH: lyn cc: See additional rider 01U(61) PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider January 13 , 1989 Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Hon. Francis Murphy Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young O1U(62) SOJITHOLD TOiNN PLANPJJNG 80RD � .;�. Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 �a� �� Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY " FAX(516)765-1823 TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS .ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JANUARY 10, 1989: Resolution No. 27b: RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, State Environmental Quality Review, and 6NYCRR .Part 6.17, Section 617- 10, and Chapter 44 of .the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the action described below, has determined that the project, which is. a Type I action, will not have a significant effect on the environment. Description of Action: Petition of Carr/Wanat .for a .change of zone. from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M" Light Multiple Residence District on certain property located on the northerly side of Bergen Avenue, Mattituck, New York. The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the environment based upon mitigation measures identifed in the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk January 11, 1989 t Nk f UL d/��1py Y .:F "dam e Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY '� F•-� FAX(516)765-1823 TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS' IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JANUARY 16, 1989: Resolution No. 27a: RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds their Resolution No... 20, adopted on December. 27,. 1988 With respect to a negative declaration concerning the petition of Carr/Wanat for a change of zone, udith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk January 11, 1989 �t r Y, r Town Hall, 53095 Main Road 51 P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY 1 `� FAX(516)765-1823 TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS' ISM TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING .RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE. SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER. 27, 1988: Resolution No. 20.,: RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, State Environmental Quality Review, and 6NYCRR,Part: 617,. Section 617.10, .and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town. of Southold, . notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the action described below, has determined that the project, which is a Type I action,. will not.:have a significant. effect on the environment. Description of Action: Petition of Carr/Wanat .fora change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M" Light. Multiple Residence District on certain property located on the northerly side of Bergen Avenue, Mattituck, New York. The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the environment because .a draft environmental impact statement has been submitted which indicated that no. significant adverse effect to the.environment is likely to occur should the project be implemented as planned. �dith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk January 3, 1989 This resolution was rescinded by Resolution No. 27a on January 10, 1989. A new resolution was adopted - Resolution No. 27b on January 10, 1989. / ' �j PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW - JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.ROE.III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I10 'I991-1943) JOHN J. L..III RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FR DE I WALLACE PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 _ __ "� � 1 1 9 5 0-1 9801 KEVIN A.SEAMAN ,,�,� 1 TEL, 516 447-8900'�— ((� '`• �7� ROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' t� l� 11 BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG FAX,516 475-56 j� .�,.-•��"�- OF COUNSEL 1j p'rl� � DOUGLAS J.LEROSE 447-8906 BRIAN McCAFFREY JP• g JAMES G.HYLAND �1 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA January 6, 1989 SENT: OVEN - GHT MAIL Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Hon. Francis J . Murphy, Supervisor RE: NORRIS ESTATES/CARR/WANAT Dear Supervisor Murphy, Members of the Town Board. Chairman Orlowski and Members of the Planning Board: This letter is being sent as a clarification of a section of our letter dated January 4, 1989 . In paragraph two of that letter, we stated: "The developer intends to go forward with the maximum number of zoning units on the Norris parcel provided by law. " In order that no one misunderstands that statement, we offer the following clarification. The developer will only proceed with the maximum number of zoning units allowable on the Norris parcel a the alternative proposal of the .Norris Estates Draft Environmental Impact Statement is not acceptable to the Town. We hope that this explanation will be helpful to all concerned, and look forward to a favorable response from the Planning Board at their meeting on January 9, 1989 . Thank you for your cooperation. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU l .\ h John) J. H t JFH:hmm cc: See additional Rider 1U/84 L� PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider January 6, 1989 Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq. Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward. Member of ' the Planning Board Richard Latham, Member of the Planning' Board William Mullen, Member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, Member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher , McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing .Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young lU/85 Town Hall, 53095 Main Road ,4 ; P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 �� TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD January 10, 1989 Judith Terry Town Clerk Southold, NY 11971 RE: Carr/Wanat Change of Zone SCTM #1000-112-1-16 Dear Mrs. Terry: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, January 9, ,1989. RESOLVED that the Southold Town --Planning Board recommend to the Town Board that the Change of Zone be denied. The Change of Zone is not in keeping with the proposed Master Plan that the Planning Board adopted with regard to density in the Bergen Avenue area. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. 2Veryuly .yours, XT CHAIRMAN ; cc: John Hart Henry Raynor jt 15 � EXCELSIOR I STATE OF NEW YORK JAN 91989 n DEPARTMENT OF STATE SOJJTH OLD TOW I� ALBANY, N.Y. 1 223 1-0001 BOARD GAIL S.SHAFFER SECRETARY OF STATE December 19, 1988 Ms. Valerie Seopaz Town of Southold Planning Board Main Street Southold, NY 11971 Re: S-88-047 Draft Environmental Impact Statement- for--the Norris Estates Development Town of Southold Dear Ms. Scopaz: Thank you for sending us a copy of the above-referenced document -for our review and comments. According -to 6 -NYCRR 617.9(e) of the regulations -which implement the State Environmental Quality Review Act- (SEQRA), the- actions of involved state agencies occurring- in -the State's coastal-area must -be - consistent-with New York State's coastal -policies. Because this- proposal will require approvals from -a-state-agency (and possibly'--a federal-agency) and is located within the -coastal area, the Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) should, pursuant to-6 NYCRR-'617.14(f) (10) -of'-SEQRA,"include"the - identification and-analysis of coastal'policies -which=-may be applicable to this -proposal. A-copy -of-this'Department'-s--regulat ons..(.19 NYCRR 600) - containing these coastal policies is enclosed for your information and use. Based upon- our-review of -the DEIS and its' addendum,-the following policies are applicable and should be addressed in this proposal's DEIS: 600.5 (a) (2) -- Facilitate -the 'siting of water-dependent uses and facilities on or adjacent to coastal waters. The construction of private -residences on or adjacent to coastal -waters is not a- water-dependent-activity. This issue of conflicting land uses should be discussed in the DEIS. 600.5(c) -To-conserve and protect -agricultural -lands in- the State's coastal area, an action shall not result-in a- loss -nor impair the productivity of- important agricultural lands as -identified -on'-the' - - coastal area map, if that loss or impairment would adversely affect the viability of agriculture in an agricultural district or, if there is no agricultural district, in the area surrounding such lands. The DEIS should provide a discussion concerning the cumulative loss of important agricultural lands due to this and similarly designed developments. The loss of approximately 120 acres of actively farmed land is substantial. The mitigation of this loss is a subject that deserves investigation. 600.5(e)(2) -- Access to the publicly owned foreshore and to-lands immediately adjacent to the foreshore or the water's edge that are- - publicly owned shall be provided, and it should be provided in a manner compatible with adjoining uses. Such lands shall be retained in public ownership. The northernmost portion of the Heather Hills alternative lies adjacent to Long Island Sound according to the subdivision sketch- plan dated-May 25, 1988. The DEIS should examine the potential for providing general-public - access to this and the 28 acre Norris site. Although the 107-lot subdivision sketch plan for-Heather Hills shows 27 acres to be left as open space, the standard (without zoning change) plan indicates that only 9.5 •acres is to remain as open- space. The standard plan should include -a much greater open space area, especially on the-bluff and beach area adjacent to the Sound. How will these open space areas be managed and maintained? 600.5(g)(5) -- Activities and development, including the construction or reconstruction of erosion protection structures, shall be undertaken-so that there will be no measurable increase in erosion or flooding at the site of such activities or development or at other locations. - The DEIS should provide a discussion of the effects the proposed gabion structure (as described on-pp.5.43-5.47) will have on coastal-processes. How will its installation affect erosion rates of the immediate and -nearby shoreline properties? More information is needed to describe the adequacy of the minimum 6"-diameter stone bluff toe protection. The- plan and cross - --- section drawings (pp.5.45-5.46) should be revised-to -show- the-lines -of spring high, mean high, and mean low water. The deck, gabion, and bluff-protection may be out of U.S. Corps-of. Engineers jurisdiction if these structures and fill are placed above spring highwater. 600.5 (n)(5) -- Best management practices will be-utilized-to mini-mize the non-point-discharge of excess nutrients, organics and eroded soils into coastal waters. Despite the-nearly level-character of the Norris site and-most of the— Heather Hills site, best management -practices-should be utilized- to -minimize water quality-and--erosion- impacts-during-construction. -A management- plan- intended to handle these potential impacts should be incorporated into the DEIS. Two plans involving the use of the Norris and Wanat properties-are -- - briefly outlined on page 5.67 of -the DEIS. A third plan should be added to this short list, and its feasibility should be investigated: F Norris 25 single-family residences 24 single-family residences Wanat 41. single-family. residences 90 residential units The standard subdivision sketch plan should be the main planning instrument for the-Heather Hills-(Wanat) -property. . -This low-density option would-not-require a zoning change, and-the approximately 2-acre lots would be more-compatible with-the sensitivity of the -parcel. ..-Article 7 -6f the Groundwater Management- Zone -Map of the Suffolk-County-Health Code shows that both-Norris and Wanat -properties are located outside- of-Hydrogeologic Zone IV, which -has a-substantially limited water-supply. -However-,- the sites-are located- between- the-shoreline and this-zone, within an -area where water supplies-are--even-.further-limited. --The-DEIS -should include -an-expanded- discussion -of--this -groundwater limitation;-Article-7- defines the proposed subdivision locations as water supply sensitive sites. Page-5:27 of -the-DEIS accuratel-y--indicates -that -Article -24 of the- Environmental Conservation-Law.-protects-freshwater-wetlands over 5--hectares in size, However, -it should -be mentioned -that-the -regula-tions--also-cover - .. wetlands- less--than 5 hectares -in-size-that-•are of -unusual- local--importance, as indicated by the NYSDEC or a local municipality charged with implementing the law. - The-lowest density--option-should be completely-explored-for each--site to ensure-that- the -impact--of-development on ground-water.-quality-and quantity is minimized and-,to-ensure the- integrity-.of--existing-wetland areas. - -Lowering of-- the-water- table: -through -over-pumpage of-ground water -supplies- from- moderate to high--density-residential development could--induce- saltwater intrusion-, lead-.to increased nitrate-contamination, -and -adversely impact the salinity and water levels of freshwater and tidal wetlands. .We- hope the above-comments will-be--of-assistance to the Town--of Southold and-to -involved state agencies- in -the- review--of-this DEIS. --If there are any questions about these comments, please call me at (518) 474-3642. Sincerely, Michael Corey Se nor -Environmental Analyst Coastal Management Program MCak--.... Enclosure _. cc: NYSDEC Region 1 - Robert Greene v . NYS Department of State r Waterfront Revitalization and —vision of Coastal Resources and Waterfront Revitalization Coastal Resources (It N f CRR Part 600) 162 Washington Avenue Albany,NY 12231 POLICIES AND PROCEDURES are shown on the coastal area map on file in the office of the Secretary, as required by section 914 (2) of the Executive Section 600.1 Authority, intent and purpose. (a) This Law. A copy of the coastal area map has been provided to Part is adopted pursuant to section 913 of the Executive Law each State agency with jurisdiction over programs identified to implement the provisions of the Waterfront Revitalization by.the Secretary pursuant to Executive Law, article 42, as and Coastal Resources Act. having the potential to affect coastal resources. (b) This Part is intended to provide for State agencies (d) Direct action or directly undertaken action means an acting in the coastal area the necessary framework for the action planned and proposed for implementation by a State consideration and application of the State's policies with agency. Direct actions include but are not limited to capital respect to waterfront revitalization and coastal resources, as projects,procedure making and policy making. contained in article 42 of the Executive Law. (e) Funding means any financial support given by a State (c) It was the,intention of the Legislature that the preser- agency, including contracts, grants, subsidies, loans or other vation, enhancement and utilization of the natural and man- forms of direct or indirect financial assistance, in connection made resources of the State's unique coastal area take place in with a proposed action. a coordinated and comprehensive manner to insure the (f) Involved agency means a State agency that has juris- proper balance between those natural resources and the need diction by law to fund, approve or directly undertake a given to accommodate the needs of population growth and eco- action. nomic development. Accordingly, it is the intention of this (g) Permit means a permit, lease, license, certificate or Part to achieve a balance between economic development and other entitlement for use or permission to act that may be preservation that will permit the beneficial use of coastal granted or issued by a State agency. resources while preventing the loss of living marine resources (h) Secretary means the Secretary of State. and wildlife, diminution of open space areas or public access (i) State agency means any department, bureau, board, to the waterfront, shoreline erosion, impairment of scenic commission, public authority or other agency of the State, beauty, or permanent adverse changes to ecological systems. including any public benefit corporation, any member of (d) In adopting the Waterfront Revitalization and which is appointed by the Governor. Coastal Resources Act, it was the Legislature's intention that review by State agencies required pursuant to article 42 of the 600.3 General rules. (a) No State agency involved in Executive Law, to determine the consistency of proposed an action shall carry out, fund or approve the action until it actions with the policies of article 42 and with any applicable has complied with the provisions of article 42 of the Executive approved local Waterfront Revitalization Program, be coor- Law. dinated with and made a part of each agency's existing proce- (b) In accordance with Executive Law, article 42, actions dures, including reviews conducted under the State Environ- directly undertaken by State agencies within the coastal area, mental Quality Review Act (SEQR) (Environmental Conser- including grants, loans or other funding assistance, land use vation Law, article 8). Accordingly, in compliance with arti- and development, planning and land transactions, shall be cle 42, this Part provides a framework which is compatible consistent with the applicable coastal policies set forth in with and capable of coordination with a State agency's exist- section 600.5 of this Part so as to achieve a balance between ing review responsibilities under SEQR(6 NYCRR Part 20). the protection of natural resources and the need to accommo- date the needs of population growth and economic develop- 600.2 Definitions. (a) Actions mean either type I or ment, as provided in Executive Law, sections 910 and 912(1). unlisted actions as defined in SEQR(6 NYCRR 617.2), which It is intended that this balancing occur in the manner specified are undertaken by State agencies; the term shall not include in section 600.4 of this Part. excluded actions as defined in SEQR (6 NYCRR 617.2) or (c) In accordance with Executive Law article 42, when the actions not subject to SEQR pursuant to other provisions of Secretary has approved a local Government Waterfront Revi- law• talization Program, and has identified State agency program (b) Certification means a notice prepared and filed by a actions which are likely to affect the achievement of the State agency with the Secretary at 162 Washington Avenue, policies and purposes of such approved local Waterfront Albany, N.Y. 12231, which notice shall: Revitalization Program, the State agency program actions so (1) contain a statement that is a certification for pur- identified shall be undertaken in a manner which is consistent poses of article 42 of the Executive Law, the name and to the maximum extent practicable with the approved local address of the State agency and the name and telephone Waterfront Revitalization Program. number of a person who can provide further information; (d) This Part shall not apply to action for which a final (2) briefly state and precisely describe the nature,extent environmental impact statement has been prepared or for and location of the action; and which a determination has been made that the action will not (3) briefly state the reasons supporting certification. have a significant effect on the environment, pursuant to 6 (c) Coastal area means the State's coastal waters and the NYCRR Part 617 prior to the effective date of this Part. adjacent shorelands, as defined in article 42 of the Executive (e) Nothing in the Part shall be construed to authorize or Law. It includes Lakes Erie and Ontario, the St. Lawrence require the issuance of any permit, license, certification, or and Niagara Rivers, the Hudson River south of the Federal other approval or the approval of any grant, loan or other dam at Troy, the East River, the Harlem River, the Kill van funding assistance which is denied by the State agency having Kull and Arthur Kill, Long Island Sound and the Atlantic jurisdiction, pursuant to other provisions of law or which is Ocean, and their connecting waterbodies,bays, harbors,shal- conditioned by such agency pursuant to other provisions of lows and marshes. The specific boundaries of the coastal area law until such conditions are met. Mario M. Cuomo Governor Gall S.Shaffer Secretary of State 600.4 Initial review of actions. As early as pos in a decision on the action, file with tl* ,,cretary a certification ,State agency's formulation of an action it proposes io under- that the action will not substantia.., ..inder the achievement take, or as soon as a State agency receives an application for a of any of the policies and purposes of the applicable approved i funding or approval action, it shall determine whether the local Waterfront Revitalization Program and whenever prac- action is located within the coastal area. For purposes of this ticable will advance one or more of such policies. If the action Part, planning or rulemaking actions which affect land or will substantially hinder the achievement of any policy or water in the coastal area shall be deemed to be located purpose of the applicable approved local Waterfront Revitali- therein. At the time it is determined that the action is located zation Program, the State agency shall instead certify that the within the coastal area the State agency shall follow the following three requirements are satisfied: review procedures set forth in this Part, including the comple- (1) no reasonable alternatives exist which would permit tion of a coastal assessment form (CAF)in a form prescribed the action to be taken in a manner which would not sub- by the Secretary. The CAF shall be completed prior to the stantially hinder the achievement of such policy or purpose; agency's determination of significance pursuant to SEQR (6 (2) the action taken will minimize all adverse effects on NYCRR Part 617)so that it can then supplement other infor- the local policy and purpose to the maximum extent practi- mation used by State agencies in making determinations of cable;and significance pursuant to such Part 617. If it is determined that (3) the action will result in an overriding regional or an action will not have a significant effect on the environ- statewide public benefit. ment, the CAF is intended to assist State agencies in arriving Such certification shall constitute a determination that the at their decision as to certification if required by this section. action is consistent to the maximum extent practicable with Where any question on the CAF is answered yes, a brief and the approved local Waterfront Revitalization Program as precise description of the nature and extent of the action shall required by Executive Law article 42. be provided on the CAF,and a copy of the CAF forwarded to the Secretary; provided, however, this requirement does not 600.5 Coastal policies. In evaluating proposed actions apply to permit actions unless such actions involve Federal against the following policies, State agencies are strongly review, funding, or approval. For the purposes of complying encouraged to consider the coastal policy explanations and with the requirements of Executive Law article 42, State guidelines contained in the approved New York State Coastal agencies shall meet the requirements of either subdivision(a), Management Program document. (b)or(c)of this section,whichever applies. (a) . De (a) Where a determination is made pursuant to 6 NYCRR Development policies. (1) Restore, revitalize and Part 617 that an action may have a significant effect on the redevelop deteriorated and underutilized waterfront areas environment, the agency shall comply with the requirements for commercial and industrial, cultural, recreational and of 6 NYCRR 617.9(e). Fulfilling such requirements consti- other compatible uses. tutes a determination of consistency as required by Executive (2) Facilitate the siting of water-dependent uses and Law article 42. facilities on or adjacent to coastal waters. (b) Where a determination is made pursuant to 6 NYCRR (3) Encourage the development of the State's existing Part 617, that an action will not have a significant effect on major ports of Albany, Buffalo, New York, Ogdensburg the environment, and where a State agency is undertaking a and Oswego as centers of commerce and industry, and direct or funding action, other than rulemaking, the State encourage the siting, in these port areas, including those agency, at the time of making its decision on the action shall under the jurisdiction of State public authorities, of land file with the Secretary a certification that such action will not use and development which is essential to or in support of substantially hinder the achievement of any of the coastal waterborne transportation of cargo and people. policies set forth in section 600.5 of this Part and whenever (4) Strengthen the economic base of smaller harbor ar- practicable will advance one or more of such policies. if.the eas by encouraging the development and enhancement of action will substantially hinder the achievement of any policy, those traditional uses and activities which have provided the agency shall instead certify that the following four re- such areas with their unique maritime identity. quirements are satisfied: (5) Encourage the location of development in areas (1) no reasonable alternatives exist which would permit where public services and facilities essential to such devel- the action to be taken in a manner which would not sub- opment are adequate, except when such development has stantially hinder the achievement of such policy; special functional requirements or other characteristics (2) the action taken will minimize all adverse effects on which necessitate its location in other coastal areas. such policies to the maximum extent practicable; (b) Fish and wildlife policies. (1) Significant coastal (3) the action will advance one or more of the other fish and wildlife habitats, as identified on the coastal area coastal policies;and map, shall be protected, preserved and, where practical, (4) the action will result in an overriding regional or restored so as to maintain their viability as habitats. statewide public benefit. (2) Expand recreational use of fish and wildlife re- Such certification shall constitute a determination of consis- sources in coastal areas by increasing access to existing tency as required by Executive Law article 42. resources, supplementing existing stocks and developing (c) Where a determination is made pursuant to 6 NYCRR new resources. Such efforts shall be made in a manner Part 617 that an action will not have a significant effect on the which ensures the protection of renewable fish and wildlife environment, and where the action is in the coastal area resources and considers other activities dependent on them. within the boundaries of an approved local Waterfront Revi- (3) Further develop commercial finfish, shellfish and talization Program area, and the action is one identified by crustacean resources in the coastal area by: the Secretary pursuant to section 916(1)(a) of the Executive (i) encouraging the construction of new or improve- Law, a State agency shall submit, through appropriate exist- ment of existing onshore commercial fishing facilities; ing clearing house procedures, information on the proposed I (ii) increasing marketing of the State's seafood prod- action to the local government and, at the time of making its ucts; and t (iii) maintaining adequate stocks and expanding (g) Flooding and erosion hazards policies. (1) When- aquaculture facilities. Such efforts shall be made in a ever possible, use nonstructur-al measures to minimize manner which ensures the protection of such renewable damage to natural resources and property from flooding fish resources and considers other activities dependent on and erosion.Such measures shall include: them. (i) the setback of buildings and structures; (4) Ice managment practices shall not damage signifi- (ii) the planting of vegetation and the installation of cant fish and wildlife and their habitats, increase shoreline sand fencing and drainage systems; erosion or flooding, or interfere with the production of (iii) ,the reshaping of bluffs;and hydroelectric power. (iv) the flood-proofing of buildings or their elevation (c) Agricultural lands policy. To conserve and protect above the base flood level. agricultural lands in the State's coastal area, an action shall (2) Mining, excavation or dredging in coastal waters not result in a loss nor impair the productivty of important shall not significantly interfere with the natural coastal agriculture lands as identified on the coastal area map, if that processes which supply beach materials to land adjacent to loss or impairment would adversely affect the viability of such waters and shall be undertaken in a manner which will agriculture in an agricultural district or, if there is no not cause an increase in erosion of such land. agricultural district,in the area surrounding such lands. (3) The construction or reconstruction of erosion pro- d) Scenic quality policies. (1) Prevent impairment of tection structures shall be undertaken only if they have a scenic resources of state-wide significance, as identified on reasonable probability of controlling erosion for at least 30 the coastal area map. Impairment shall include: years as demonstrated in design and construction standards (i) the irreversible modification of geological forms, and/or assured maintenance or replacement programs. the destruction or removal of vegetation, the destruction (4) Activities or development in the coastal area will be or removal of structures, wherever the geologic forms, undertaken so as to minimize damage to natural resources vegetation or structures are significant to the scenic and property, from flooding and erosion by protecting quality of an identified resource;and natural protective features, including beaches, dunes, bar- (ii) the addition of structures which because of siting rier islands and bluffs. Primary dunes will be protected or scale will reduce identified views or which because of from all encroachments that could impair their natural scale, form or materials will diminish the scenic quality of protective capacity. an identified resource. (5) Activities and development, including the construc- (2) Protect, restore and enhance natural and man-made tion or reconstruction of erosion protection structures, shall resources which are not identified as being of statewide be undertaken so that there will be no measurable increase significance, but which contribute to the scenic quality of in erosion or flooding at the site of such activities or the coastal area. development or at other locations. (e) Public access policies. (1) Protect, maintain and (6) Public funds shall only be used for erosion protec- increase the levels and types of access to public water- tive structures where necessary to protect human life, and related recreation resources and facilities so that these new development which requires a location within or resources and facilities may be fully utilized by all the public adjacent to an erosion hazard area to be able to function, or in accordance with reasonably anticipated public recreation existing development; and only where the public benefits needs and the protection of historic and natural resources. outweigh the long-term monetary and other costs, including In providing such access, priority shall be given to public the potential for increasing erosion and adverse effects on beaches, boating facilities, fishing areas and waterfront natural protective features. parks. (h) Hater resources policies. (1) State coastal area (2) Access to the publicly owned foreshore and to lands policies and purposes of approved local waterfront revitali- immediately adjacent to the foreshore or the water's edge zation programs will be considered while reviewing coastal that are publicly owned shall be provided, and it should be water classifications and while modifying water quality provided in a manner compatible with adjoining uses. Such standards; however, those waters already overburdened lands shall be retained in public ownership. with contaminants will be recognized as being a develop- (f) Recreation policies. (1) Water dependent and wa- ment constraint. ter-enhanced recreation shall be encouraged and facilitated (2) Encourage the use of alternative or innovative and shall be given priority-over nonwater-related uses along sanitary waste systems in small communities where the costs the coast, provided it is consistent with the preservation and of conventional facilities are unreasonably high, given the enhancement of other coastal resources and takes into size of the existing tax base of these communities. account demand for such facilities. In facilitating such (3) Best management practices will be used to ensure the activities, priority shall be given to areas where access to the control of stormwater runoff and combined sewer over- recreation opportunities of the coast can be provided by . flows draining into coastal waters. new or existing public transportation services and to those (4) Discharge of waste materials from vessels into areas where the use of the,shore is severely restricted by coastal waters will be limited so as to protect significant fish existing development. and wildlife habitats, recreational areas and water supply (2) Development, when located adjacent to the shore, areas. shall provide for water-related recreation, as a multiple use, (5) Best management practices will be utilized to mini- whenever such recreational use is appropriate in light of mize the non-point discharge of excess nutrients, organics reasonably anticipated demand for such activities and the and eroded soils into coastal waters. primary purpose of the deveolpment. (i) To safeguard the vital economic, social and environ- (3) Protect, enhance and restore structures, districts, mental interests of the State and of its citizens, proposed areas or sites that are of significance in the history, major actions in the coastal area must give full consideration architecture, archeology or culture of the State, its commu- to those interests, and to the safeguards which the State has nities or the nation. established to protect valuable coastal resource areas. NYS Department of State ` ision of Coastal Resources aterfront Revitalization and and Waterfront Revitalization shiCoastal Resources (19 NYCRR Part 600) 162 WaAlbany NYtonv12231 POLICIES AND PROCEDURES are shown on the coastal area map on file in the office of the Secretary, as required by section 914 (2) of the Executive Section 600.1 Authority, intent and purpose. (a) This Law. A copy of the coastal area map has been provided to Part is adopted pursuant to section 913 of the Executive Law each State agency with jurisdiction over programs identified to implement the provisions of the Waterfront Revitalization by the Secretary pursuant to Executive Law, article 42, as and Coastal Resources Act. having the potential to affect coastal resources. (b) This Part is intended to provide for State agencies (d) Direct action or directly undertaken action means an acting in the coastal area the necessary framework for the ' action planned.and proposed for implementation by a State consideration and application of the State's policies with agency. Direct actions include but are not limited to capital respect to waterfront revitalization and coastal resources, as projects, procedure making and policy making. contained in article 42 of the Executive Law. (e) Funding means any financial support given by a State (c) It was the intention of the Legislature that the preser- agency, including contracts, grants, subsidies, loans or other vation, enhancement and utilization of the natural and man- forms of direct or indirect financial assistance, in connection made resources of the State's unique coastal area take place in with a proposed action. a coordinated and comprehensive manner to insure the (f) Involved agency means a State agency that has juris- proper balance between those natural resources and the need diction by law to fund, approve or directly undertake a given to accommodate the needs of population growth and eco- action. nomic development. Accordingly, it is the intention of this (g) Permit means.a permit, lease, license, certificate or Part to achieve a balance between economic development and other entitlement for use or permission to act that may be preservation that will permit the beneficial use of coastal granted or issued by a State agency. resources while preventing the loss of living marine resources (h) Secretary means the Secretary of State. and wildlife, diminution of open space areas or public access (i) State agency means any department, bureau, board, to the waterfront, shoreline erosion, impairment of scenic commission, public authority or other agency of the State, beauty, or permanent adverse changes to ecological systems. including any public benefit corporation, any member of (d) In adopting the Waterfront Revitalization and which is appointed by the Governor. Coastal Resources Act, it was the Legislature's intention that review by State agencies required pursuant to article 42 of the 600.3 General roles. (a) No State agency involved in Executive Law, to determine the consistency of proposed an action shall carry out, fund or approve the action until it actions with the policies of article 42 and with any applicable has complied with the provisions of article 42 of the Executive approved local Waterfront Revitalization Program, be coor- Law. dinated with and made a part of each agency's existing proce- I (b) In accordance with Executive Law, article 42, actions dures, including reviews conducted under the State Environ- directly undertaken by State agencies within the coastal area, mental Quality Review Act (SEQR) (Environmental Conser- including grants, loans or other funding assistance, land use vation Law, article 8). Accordingly, in compliance with arti- and development, planning and land transactions, shall be cle 42, this Part provides a framework which is compatible consistent with the applicable coastal policies set forth in with and capable of coordination with a State agency's exist- section 600.5 of this Part so as to achieve a balance between ing review responsibilities under SEQR(6 NYCRR Part 20). the protection of natural resources and the need to accommo- date the needs of population growth-and economic develop- 600.2 Definitions. (a) Actions mean either type I or ment, as provided in Executive Law, sections 910 and 912(1). unlisted actions as defined in SEQR(6 NYCRR 617.2), which It is intended that this balancing occur in the manner specified are undertaken by State agencies; the term shall not include in section 600.4 of this Part. excluded actions as defined in SEQR (6 NYCRR 617.2) or (c) In accordance with Executive Law article 42, when the actions not subject to SEQR pursuant to other provisions of Secretary has approved a local Government Waterfront Revi- law. talization Program, and has identified State agency program (b) Certification means a notice prepared and filed by a actions which are likely to affect the achievement of the State agency with the Secretary at 162 Washington Avenue, policies and purposes of such approved local Waterfront Albany, N.Y. 12231, which notice shall: Revitalization Program, the State agency program actions so (1) contain a statement that is a certification for pur- identified shall be undertaken in a manner which is consistent poses of article 42 of the Executive Law, the name and to the maximum extent practicable with the approved local address of the State agency and the name and telephone Waterfront Revitalization Program. number of a person who can provide further information; (d) This Part shall not apply to action for which a final (2) briefly state and precisely describe the nature, extent environmental impact statement has been prepared or for and location of the action; and which a determination has been made that the action will not (3) briefly state the reasons supporting certification. have a significant effect on the environment, pursuant to 6 (c) Coastal area means the State's coastal waters and the NYCRR Part 617 prior to the effective date of this Part. adjacent shorelands, as defined in article 42 of the Executive (e) Nothing in the Part shall be construed to authorize or Law. It includes Lakes Erie and Ontario, the St. Lawrence require the issuance of any permit, license, certification, or and Niagara Rivers, the Hudson River south of the Federal other approval or the approval of any grant, loan or other dam at Troy, the East River, the Harlem River, the Kill van funding assistance which is denied by the State agency having Kull and Arthur Kill, Long Island Sound and the Atlantic jurisdiction, pursuant to other provisions of law or which is Ocean, and their connecting waterbodies, bays, harbors, shal- conditioned by such agency pursuant to other provisions of lows and marshes. The specific boundaries of the coastal area law until such conditions are met. Mario M. Cuomo GaR S.Shaffer Governor Secretary of State 600.4 Initial review of actions. As early as possible in a decision on tine action, file with the Secretary a certification State agency's formulation of an action it proposes to under- that the action will not substantially hinder the achievement take, or as soon as a State agency receives an application for a of any of the policies and purposes of the applicable approved funding or approval action, it shall determine whether the local Waterfront Revitalization Program and whenever prac- , action is located within the coastal area. For purposes of this ticable will advance one or more of such policies. If the action Part, planning or rulemaking actions which affect land or will substantially hinder the achievement of any policy or water in the coastal area shall be deemed to be located purpose of the applicable approved local Waterfront Revitali- therein. At the time it is determined that the action is located zation Program, the State agency shall instead certify that the within the coastal area the State agency shall follow the following three requirements are satisfied: review procedures set forth in this Part, including the comple- (1) no reasonable alternatives exist which would permit tion of a coastal assessment form(CAF)in a form prescribed the action to be taken in a manner which would not sub- by the Secretary. The CAF shall be completed prior to the stantially hinder the achievement of such policy or purpose; agency's determination of significance pursuant to SEQR (6 (2) the action taken will minimize all adverse effects on NYCRR Part 617) so that it can then supplement other infor- the local policy and purpose to the maximum extent practi- mation used by State agencies in making determinations of cable; and -significance pursuant to such Part 617. If it is determined that (3) the action will result in an overriding regional or an action will not have a significant effect on the environ- statewide public benefit. ment, the CAF is intended to assist State agencies in arriving Such certification shall constitute a determination that the at their decision as to certification if required by this section. action is consistent to the maximum extent practicable with Where any question on the CAF is answered yes, a brief and the approved local Waterfront Revitalization Program as precise description of the nature and extent of the action shall required by Executive Law article 42. be provided on the CAF,and a copy of the CAF forwarded to the Secretary; provided, however, this requirement does not 600.5 Coastal policies. In evaluating proposed actions apply to permit actions unless such actions involve Federal against the following policies, State agencies are strongly review, funding, or approval. For the purposes of complying encouraged to consider the coastal policy explanations and with the requirements of Executive Law article 42, State guidelines contained in the approved New York State Coastal agencies shall meet the requirements of either subdivision(a), Management Program document. (b)or(c)of this section,whichever applies. ( (a) Development policies. (1) Restore, revitalize and a) Where a determination is made pursuant to 6 NYCRR redevelop deteriorated and underutilized waterfront areas Part 617 that an action may have a significant effect on the environment, the agency shall comply with the requirements for commercial and industrial, cultural, recreational and of 6 NYCRR 617:9(e). Fulfilling such requirements consti- other compatible uses. • lutes a determination of consistency as required by Executive (2) Facilitate the siting of water-dependent uses and Law article 42. facilities on or adjacent to coastal waters. (3) Encourage the development of the State's existing (b) Where a determination is made pursuant to 6 NYCRR major ports of Albany, Buffalo, New York, Ogdensburg Part 617, that an action will not have a significant effect on and Oswego as centers of commerce and industry, and the environment, and where a State agency is undertaking a encourage the siting, in these port areas, including those direct or funding action, other than rulemaking, the. State under the jurisdiction of State public authorities, of land agency, at the time of making its decision on the action shall use and development which is essential to or in support of file with the Secretary a certification that such action will not waterborne transportation of cargo and people. substantially hinder the achievement of any of the coastal (4) Strengthen the economic base of smaller harbor ar- policies set forth in section 600.5 of this Part and whenever eas by encouraging the development and enhancement of practicable will advance one or more of such policies. if.the those traditional uses and activities which have provided action will substantially hinder the achievement of any policy, such areas with their unique maritime identity. the agency shall instead certify that the following four re- (5) Encourage the location of development in areas quirements are satisfied: where public services and facilities essential to such devel- (1) no reasonable alternatives exist which.would permit opment are adequate, except when such development has the action to be taken in a manner which would not sub- special functional requirements or other characteristics stantially hinder the achievement of such policy; which necessitate its location in other coastal areas. (2) the action taken will minimize all adverse effects on such policies to the maximum extent practicable; (b) Fish and wildlife policies. (1) Significant coastal (3) the action will advance one or more of the other fish and wildlife habitats, as identified on the coastal area coastal policies;and map, shall be protected, preserved and, where practical, (4) the action will result in an overriding regional or restored so as to maintain their viability as habitats. statewide public benefit. (2) Expand recreational use of fish and wildlife re- Such certification shall constitute a determination of consis- sources in coastal areas by increasing access to existing tency as required by Executive Law article 42. resources, supplementing existing stocks and developing (c) Where a determination is made pursuant to 6 NYCRR new resources. Such efforts shall be made in a manner Part 617 that an action will not have a significant effect on the which ensures the protection of renewable fish and wildlife environment, and where the action is in the coastal area resources and considers other activities dependent on them. within the boundaries of an approved local Waterfront Revi- (3) Further develop commercial finfish, shellfish and talization Program area, and the action is one identified by crustacean resources in the coastal area by: the Secretary pursuant to section 916(1)(a) of the Executive (i) encouraging the construction of new or improve- Law, a State agency shall submit, through appropriate exist- ment of existing onshore commercial fishing facilities; ing clearing house procedures, information on the proposed (ii) increasing marketing of the State's seafood prod- action to the local government and, at the time of making its ucts; and { i t (iii) maintaining adequate stocks and expanding : (g) Flooding :and erosion hazy-J.. policies. (1) When- aquaculture facilities. Such efforts shall be made in a ever possible, use nonstructur-al measures to minimize manner which ensures the protection of such renewable damage, to natural resources and property from flooding f , fish resources and considers other activities dependent on" and eo"sion. Such measures shall include: them. (i) the setback of buildings and structures; (4) Ice managment practices shall not damage signifi- (ii) the planting of vegetation and the installation of cant fish and wildlife and their habitats, increase shoreline sand fencing and drainage systems; erosion or flooding, or interfere with the production of (iii) the reshaping of bluffs;and hydroelectric power. (iv) the flood-proofing of buildings or their elevation (c) Agricultural lands policy. To conserve and protect above the base flood level. agricultural lands in the State's coastal area, an action shall (2) Mining, excavation or dredging in coastal waters not result in a loss nor impair the productivty of important shall not significantly interfere with the natural coastal agriculture lands as identified on the coastal area map, if that processes which supply beach materials to land adjacent to loss or impairment would adversely affect the viability of such waters and shall be undertaken in a manner which will agriculture in an agricultural district or, if there is no not cause an increase in erosion of such land. agricultural district,in the area surrounding such lands. (3) The construction or reconstruction of erosion pro- d) Scenic quality policies. (1) Prevent impairment of tection structures shall be undertaken only if they have a scenic resources of state-wide significance, as identified on reasonable probability of controlling erosion for at least 30 the coastal area map. Impairment shall include: years as demonstrated in design and construction standards (i) the irreversible modification of geological forms, and/or assured maintenance.or replacement programs. the destruction or removal of vegetation, the destruction (4) Activities or development in the coastal area will be or removal of structures, wherever the geologic forms, undertaken so as to minimize damage to natural resources vegetation or structures are significant to the scenic and property from flooding and erosion by protecting quality of an identified resource; and natural protective features, including beaches, dunes, bar- (ii) the addition of structures which because of siting rier islands and bluffs. Primary dunes will be protected or scale will reduce identified views or which because of from all encroachments that could impair their natural scale, form or materials will diminish the scenic quality of protective capacity. an identified resource. (5) Activities and development, including the construc- (2) Protect, restore and enhance natural and man-made tion or.reconstruction of erosion protection structures, shall resources which are not identified as being of statewide be undertaken so that there will be no measurable increase significance, but which contribute to the scenic quality of in erosion or flooding at the site of such activities or the coastal area. development or at other locations. (e) Public access policies. (1) Protect, maintain and (6) Public funds shall only be used for erosion protec- increase the levels and types of access to public water- Live structures where necessary to protect human life, and related recreation resources and facilities so that these new development which requires a location within or resources and facilities may be fully utilized by all the public adjacent to an erosion hazard area to be able to function, or in accordance with reasonably anticipated public recreation existing development; and only where the public benefits needs and the protection of historic and natural resources. outweigh the long-term monetary and other costs, including In providing such access, priority shall be given to public the potential for increasing erosion and adverse effects on beaches, boating facilities, fishing areas and waterfront natural protective features. parks. (h) Water resources policies. (1) State coastal area (2) Access to the publicly owned foreshore and to lands policies and purposes of approved local waterfront revitali- immediately adjacent to the foreshore or the water's edge zation programs will be considered while reviewing coastal that are publicly owned shall be provided, and it should be water classifications and while modifying water quality' provided in a manner compatible with adjoining uses. Such standards; however, those waters already overburdened lands shall be retained in public ownership. with contaminants will be recognized as being a develop- (f) Recreation policies. (1) Water dependent and wa- ment constraint. ter-enhanced recreation shall be encouraged and facilitated (2) Encourage the use of alternative or innovative and shall be given priority over nonwater-related uses along sanitary waste systems in small communities where the costs the coast, provided it is consistent with the preservation and of conventional facilities are unreasonably high, given the enhancement of other coastal resources and takes into size of the existing tax base of these communities. account demand for such facilities. In facilitating such (3) Best management practices will be used to ensure the activities, priority shall be given to areas where access to the control of stormwater runoff and combined sewer over- recreation opportunities of the coast can be provided by flows draining into coastal waters. new or existing public transportation services and to those (4) Discharge of waste materials from vessels into areas where the use of the shore is severely restricted by coastal waters will be limited so as to protect significant fish existing development. and wildlife habitats, recreational areas and water supply (2) Development, when located adjacent to the shore, areas. shall provide for water-related recreation, as a multiple use, (5) Best management practices will be utilized to mini- whenever such recreational use is appropriate in light of mize the non-point discharge of excess nutrients, organics reasonably anticipated demand for such activities and the and eroded soils into coastal waters. primary purpose of the deveolpment. (i) To safeguard the vital economic, social and environ- (3) Protect, enhance and restore structures, districts, mental interests of the State and of its citizens, proposed areas or sites that are of significance in the history, major actions in the coastal area must give full consideration architecture, archeology or culture of the State, its commu- to those interests, and to the safeguards which the State has nities or the nation. established to protect valuable coastal resource areas. J JAN - 4 1989 P.P. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 SOUTyOLDTOWN January 2, 1989 PLANNING BOARD Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Main Road Cutchogue, NY 11935 Dear Mr. Orlowski : After reading the Long Island Traveler Watchman report from the Town Board meeting, there still appears to be a question pertaining to the quantity of water available at the Carr-Norris site. I. have taken the liberty of sending the synopsis of data pertaining to this issue. I believe in reading this section of the report by H2M the solution is self evident. There is more water recharged into the property than is being proposed to be withdrawn. These comments were forwarded to Dave Emilita last October and I believe the possibility exists that the Board may not have received copies of the enclosed. I would hope this would clarify the situation. Should you have any questions, please don' t hesitate to contact me . Best wishes for a happy and prosperous new year.. Sincerely, Cam' 'h -Henry Ray r, r __.;HER.-m1 -Enc CC _ .Valerie Scopaz, Town :Plann��__ - WRMP report_ referred to the `1983 report estimates. Recharge rates shown, in all reports approximate . 0.9 - 1.1 mgd . per _ 3 - ... - - ... . V:.: ..j }.., ..(. .d •. . .. -, a {- square 'mire. Figure 7 .I in NFWSP shows a broad brush type representation of.'the water budgetarea .and is not '..intended i s t_ o be 'site specific. A close examination of the figure shows some .':inlet (salt 'water areas) 'as "included but excludes other areas such as Mattituck Hills where they are already _public supply wells. There is no question that most of Norris site is a recharge area,- that a -.reasonable. permissive yield is . available but large municipal :wells would not. be appropriate The most recent plan .WRMP uses a recharge rate in the insular areas 'of :'_-1 .1: .million gallons per day per' square mile. The annual preciptation-.:in --Zone 3 is apparently 3..3 million, gallons per day .of ':which WRMP .would estimate 16.5 mgd as `available for recharge 4"Based on ;these figures which ^5t calculate to 1562 gallons perhdaystper acre, .there would be k ..�•,a.0 a�,"iww^`'' E}' i - -.., ? } .-✓ b. about ;115, 0 00 gallons }perayaf recharge in' f il,tratzng Ito �� .1 sr 3 F s f p 1 �' r u z�"rx S i.a •I`.c aarie�,`"' r x g-z�r `' z ,.. r4 4 r7i a �3 r�A �' ,:. �e t '�. u*., r. `•s y,� 1` the. .aquifer under the 114 acres. F The permissive sustained yield is the maximumA. rate at k 7 y JE 1 4 r ✓ - L a 'fir- ,F, •:x; ;< which water can be consumed perennially without bringing a f � u'. µf � 7 � J T1 ? f about adverse effects such as salt water intrusion to the water supply. A permissive sustained yield of 0 .35 mgd/sq mile of water budget area was recommended in the CPWS-24 and NFWSP for this water budget general area. Using a conservative recharge area of 50 -.acres of the 74-acre site provides a -permissive sustained yield of :'27., 350 gpd.. Of the 24 acres remaining, if 15 acres mme9k of is used at 0.25 mgd/sq. mile and the southerly 9 .acres is reserved for the Main Norris building, this would provide an added excess of 5859 gpd to provide a 50 percent excess with 33, 209 gpd available. In the Town of Southold, irrigation is the most influential factor regarding consumptive water use. Existing on the eastern parcel (B) of land is a 1.0-inch well ; , ... which has been used for irrigation over the entire Norris estate. It has been estimated that this well pumps .an average of 1 6 :mg throughout the duration :of the :irr.igation - _ - .. t ...season.. In -calculating. consumptive-_use,. we have increased 4 _ L our estimated use 2.o m o t illion 1 ns per year which gy equivalent to :2 .inches "of irrigation on -40 acres . -or .5;951 gallons per day average.,:... CIA .RCsr►� �C;,a�s. -p NanRIsl�a2r� corvTr��i _ --- 3 During the course of investigations by H2M, a pump test was performed on. the underlying aquifer. A pump test 'is made by pumping a well for a period of. time, and observing the change in hydraulic. head (water surface elevation) in the aquifer. With careful planning, the pump test yields pertinent data. --.which 'allows- the .-- computation .of certain . aquifer characteristics. To obtain this data, . the six-inch test ..well,#1 located on the western edge of the eastern parcel of land, was pumped for 12 hours at a rate averaging . 90 gpm. Water surface elevations were observed at various time intervals in the two-inch well located 5 feet. .south of the pumping well.. Within this time interval, a maximum drawdown of 0.14 feet was observed. From this data and experience on another nearby project the transmissivity of the aquifer has been determined to be approximately 160,-000 gpd/foot,: along with a storativity permeability of a ',of 0 .3, and a pproximately -1. :- 3, 555 .gpd/square foot or 47`5 ft/day.. ,,,This ,,compares "with average value shown in WRMP of 270 for Suffolk County After test pumping had ceased, measurements of the water surface elevations continued in the same two-inch monitoring well for approximately one-half hour. After this time, recovery of the well was 87 percent complete. This rate of recovery is equivalent to the rate at which the aquifer fills. While running a pump test on the aquifer, groundwater elevations were monitored. The elevation of the water "surface was determined at each well, and contour- lines (lines . of equal elevation) were drawn. Groundwater flow perpendicular to these lines, provided the aquifer is isotropic. It has been determined that this aquifer is- '_, isotropic up to the clay lens. From the data collected, the contours which were drawn indicate that the groundwater should flow radially towards adjacent salt water bodies (see figure 6) . The following material was abstracted from the .North 'ti'' Fork .Water Supply Plant ,(page relative to salt water :.. F intrusion , position of the interface has _ been_. determined _ - 4 during exploratory. drilling on. various projects by SCDHS, test well ,.installations associated ,with ,xthe -208 Program, an`d _ 3 .86 .. VFJAN419819 1 SOIiTHOLD TOVNN PLANNING BOARD Janu977'2, 1989 Southold Town Planning Board Main Road, Southold New York 11971 Gentlemen: If you were listening on December 19, 1988 when the proposed Carr development in New Suffolk was addressed, you heard a group of reasonable people asking you to limit the development to a reasonable size. If you were listening you also heard sound reasons for limiting the size of the development. New Suffolk cannot reasonably support a 350 seat restaurant, it is not reasonable to destroy a scallop bed and to limit access to the harbor because of an outflow pipe that has highly questionable legal grounds for its placement, it is not reasonable to try to fit a gallon size development into a quart size area. If you were listening we will know it by a decision from you to scale back this development to a size that reasonable people, working with a reasonable developer, can coexist in, 1Ylr:!.� onajbrg.ha.Tmony. Sincerely yours, Bayview Road Southold, NY 11971 ,OR 0- PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.ROE.III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I10 (1891-1943) JOHN J.R L..III RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 t1950-1980) BRUCE T.WALLACE KEVIN A.SEAMAN TEL. 516 447-8900 C� B RT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' % �C. OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG FAX 516 475-5651 DOUGLAS J.LEROSE 447-8925 D BRIAN McCAFFREY r 4 11 19aJ JAMES G.HYLAND 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA 1Dj0�dN January 4, 1989 SO� e � D� W Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Att: Hon. Francis J. Murphy, Supervisor Re-: Norris Estates/Carr/Wanat Dear Supervisor Murphy, Members of the Town Board, Chairman Orlowski and Members of the Planning Board: From the article appearing in the Long Island Traveler-Watchman on December 29, 1988, it appears that Members of the Planning Board are opposed to the development of the Norris Estates and Carr/Wanat parcels as proposed. It is our contention that the proposal which is an alternative to the condominium development at Norris offers a practical and desirable solution. It will not set a precedent for any other proposal. The developer intends to go forward with the maximum number of zoning units on the Norris parcel provided by law. There is sufficient water using a reverse osmosis system and providing for a tertiary sanitary system. It is hoped, as we said initially when this process was started, that it would not be necessary to take legal action to eniurce the landowner ' s property rights which are guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment. However, such action, if it becomes necessary, will be coupled with an action under 61983 to insure that the property owner is made whole. Thank you for your consideration. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU oh J. H � �- JFH:ma cc: See attached Rider 0001U/75 PELLETREAU 8& PELLETREAU Rider January 4, 1989 Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward, Member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, Member of the Planning Board William Mullen, Member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, Member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher , McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att:, David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young lU/77 d l Anson Environmental Environmental Audits 78 Dewey Street Hazardous ��rt"sWast Huntington, N.Y. 11743 Impact statements 516-549-4015 wetland Investigations December 16, 1988 Town of Southold Frank Murphy, Supervisor Town Board Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Planning Board 9 .„ pq Town Hall 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, N.Y. 11971 . Dear Messrs. Murphy and Orlowski: Anson Environmental, Ltd., the environmental consultant for Committee Against Norris Downzoning Organization, has completed its review of the DEIS for the Norris Estates Development, New Suffolk Avenue, Mattituck, New York, prepared for the Southold Town Planning Board. Three major areas of concern have surfaced during our review - accuracy of the traffic study, adequacy of the local water supply and absence of traffic and other environmental impacts from other projects ahead of Norris Estates in the development process. The Town needs reasonable assurance that the information presented in the DEIS is accurate and complete so they.can make an informed decision regarding the application. We believe that the information presented does not provide that assurance. The following comments explain why we have this belief, TRAFFIC The statement that the development of the Norris Estate will not have significant impaction the traffic in the area cannot be logical. The area south of New Suffolk Avenue and adjacent to the site between Ole Jule Lane and Marratooka Road has about. 100 houses. The primary proposed development will have 108 condominiums. Therefore, traffic in the immediate project area will approximately double. This is a significant impact. Anson Environmental J Page 2 The accuracy of the traffic study, is subject to question for several reasons including the following. Numerous local residents noted that the hoses connected to the traffic counting machines. were not across the road during the entire counting period. In fact, .there were long periods of time when counts were not being taken. Obviously, the traffic counts are not accurate. It is reasonable and customary for a traffic engineer to inspect the location of these hoses on at least a daily basis. The intersections of Marratooka Avenue/Marratooka Road and New Suffolk Avenue had vehicle volume counts and intersection turning movements on 9/ 17/86 not during July to August as stated on page C. 18. According to the DEIS these counts were not updated. These counts are probably low as the majority of the summer residents and visitors have left the area following the Labor Day holiday. Since the traffic counts were taken during 1986, are there any plans to update these counts to make them current? We believe that to obtain accurate traffic information, all the traffic counts should be repeated next summer or at least updated. LOCAL WATER SUPPLY If the underground reservior of freshwater is pictured as a "bowl of water", it is easy to understand what the impact of its use is on the quantity and quality of the water. If water is pumped from the bowl, the water level decreases. Water is replaced when it rains or when water enter-- the ground through cesspools. Of course, water introduced via cesspools is not clean and pure. Therefore, as the concentration of the cesspool water increases relative to the volume of_rainfall, the quality of the water in the "bowl" is adversely affected. The quality of the water is also adversely affected by the replacement of the freshwater by salt water intrusion. Local residents currently use groundwater as a source of potable water. These residents have been experiencing, at an increasing rate, salt water intrusion into their wells. This intrusion has been increasing in both area affected and rate of occurance. The reasons for this intrusion are that the delicate balance between fresh and salt water is being changed because Anson Environmental Page 3 fresh water is pumped from the ground, As the freshwater is pumped from the ground, the fresh/salt water interface moves both inland and nearer the ground surface. This is substantiated because new wells in the project area are being installed further inland. This will continue to occur as the freshwater is depleted because of the development of the project. Who will replace the current local residents' wells once they have experienced salt water intrusion as a result of the increased pumpage because of project development? To prevent salt water intrusion, the groundwater table must be maintained at a high level. This will occur if the drawdown, which is calculated using the Ghyben-Herzberg analysis, is kept to a minimum and the groundwater is replaced with freshwater from the surface. This balance is critical to keeping the fresh/salt water interface from advancing toward the land. This advance is what makes the existing wells go "bad". Once the salt water is allowed to advance into the existing wells, it is unclear whether that advance can be reversed by increased rainfall, As.Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrel pointout in the "Comprehensive Public Water Supply Study, Suffolk County", CPWS-24, Volume 11, pages 276-277, the ratio of tidal coast line to total land area as well as the low level of groundwater make the North Fork of Suffolk County one of the most susceptible to salt water intrusion. This means that since we do not have any control over the ratio of tidal coast line to total land, every effort shouln� made to maintain the level of groundwater in Mattituck. This can best be done by putting strict limitations on development of open land on the North Fork and particularly in areas like the N:nrris Estate where salt water intrusion has been documented. Obviously, the quality of the groundwater should also be maintained. Limiting the amount of cesspools wastes that are introduced into this fragile groundwater"6nvironmental will be very important to maintaining high quality groundwater. Anson Environmental Page 4 When the calculation of the amount of groundwater that can be pumped from the onsite aquifer was made, it would have been more conservative to use the amount of rainfall during a drought condition instead of a year with average rainfall. IMPACT ON SURFACE WATERBODIES The DEIS states that the project will not have any impact on surface waterbodies. This is hard to believe because of the proximity of Lake Marratooka to the proposed location of the water supply wells. The aquifer that Lake Marratooka recharges is the same one proposed for use as a source of drinking water for the project. As water is pumped from this aquifer, the level of the lake will be lowered. OTHER PROJECTS SEQR and the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) both require projects planned prior to the Norris Estates project to have their traffic and water consumption calculations added to the existing condition and thereby for the baseline condition. This addition was not made to determine the baseline condition. The Apple subdivision project located between Ole Jule Lane and Camp Mineola Road plans to build 7 houses. The Kreh/Allen subdivision plans the construction of 6 houses. When these 13 houses are added to the existing 100 houses in the immediate area bounding the Norris Estate you have the existing condition to which you should add the proposed 108 condominiums. Therefore, the true impacts of the I.!grris Estates project have not been calculated. Anson Environmental Page 5 SUMMARY The addition of either 108 condominiums to the project area with 100 existing houses, as well as other housing projects currently planned, will have significant impacts on local traffic, surface water and groundwater. These additions will have significant adverse impacts wh'ich the Board cannot allow to occur. Thank you for your time. Very truly yours, Dean Anson i DEC 1 4 1988 .AEG- 1 4 1988 Southold Tnv., t'!,.k ti y U-rZ� -� pL C,- - • Q _ ✓�o�c 14 q L MA DEC 14 IM Ply KING BONyRD 645 Wickham Avenue Mattituck, NY 11952 December 12, 1988 To Whom It May Concern: As concerned residents of Southold Town, we ask that you do not down-zone Bergen Avenue for the Carr/Wanat project. We feel that it should stay at the present zoning regulation of two acres. Respectfully submitt ; Barbara S. Brigha Timothy J. B 'gha C �) r .l'• 0 .:;�� 1�"ti J.'` pia ,. � Town Hall 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 O.a Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD December 20., 1988 John J. Hart 20 Church Street Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Norris/Carr/Wanat SCTM #1000-122-5-4 Dear Mr. Hart: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board, Monday, December 19, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board close the public comment period for the review of the Environmental Impact Statement. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Ver ly yours, t�� e BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN jt np, DEC 99 f988 i --((,,�� -we 9�a SOUTNULD TOWN Ui�a��sZur� �eu� 1I9S2 L PLANNING BOARD ,._..# Southold Town Board December 17, 1988 Southold Planning Board Att: Frank Murphy, Supervisor Re: Carr-Wanat Downzoning Dear Frank; I have enclosed a copy of the Newsday Article of Dec. 16th on the "Southold Town Water Studies" . The article mentions the IDEAL 10 acre zoning for the Water Protection Zone, this zone includes the Carr-Want property on Bergen Ave. that is presently being considered for down zoning to 3/4 acre. At the Public Hearing on Nov. 14th, I stated the future water supply as a reason for my objecting to the down- zoning, along with setting a precedent for the adjoinl=49,$00(�-Ac. Everyone, I have spoken to that has any roots in Southold, is concerned about the orderly and planned growth of the area, the water supply and the Real Estate Tax burden. I sincerely hope that you and the members of both boards, will not permit down zoning in the 'Water Protection Zone"-specifically the Carr-Wanat property. I chose to live in Southold for the past 23 years and I have travelled the North Fork in the course of my business for 50 years. My concerns are valid. Siincerely yours Jill 'Ie, e . �. E- rote cb a1 _ T= M, ti these areas-:represent the .-`:C6ifficIlman-.G -L.'Pp-nny IV expressed concern >C availh B 'D -bie- a' eorge .,.-They said 0 Is ele'v'ation'an"d I Argest quantity"of abdiit the fdriner' s in the watershed"area.- Board- worried-abot: grPun water T'o'*n P d Southold t the fa- en .:,But McDonald said'fakmerswill "b benefit from this r Pt e;ability-of -to supply drinking wa- _: - - . 1 - - .. C k ZZ I&i'-North Fork able drinking water. They suggested the-'town.regulate future building bbcauis'6 b S rl- considering the creation of an inland watershed y preserving open.space there.will always be and land use vs the:-core-area. -Villa Said new.. Ian!f6 tilein to farm.". VVIM • _ I r area. -ni re�thafi;6 of'the hem"atershed protection area,whiciiwo�ld be cr building within zne-:a±ea.,sh6uld be restricted to one -McD d that.* o 0 percent`of e- Sal fi' mits ozi`develo- went-and a pro' house' for each- 10 acres with a:transfer.'of develop all- '-'at6d',-tbk61i:g P` peo 16 livink'111-the waf6rShi4areas are small proper- C pm gram. p -der that-program, develop .under Which:devbl right to build -Un ty owners; most-of whose property values-would not opers.-would get the ri inqnt rights,program. n ers have' to build more units on-designated. exchange t6i not building be affecie-d-by-.ilie proposal-;'.''moret—nitz in.offie" -as 1 the right b inth r are sites outside--the.watershed-area In exchange for not ,If an aAvan- C: arq#�w. o . d _b t 2,600 a Cil W incl e-a'o*u' acres_q,pro- anything;"_he said, have zo ers.build�g,`in:the-._-*_ateish6d.'.I"_-zone..:'Developers.`would preserve-like setting,and-"property tAge,living inthis'preierve ll:tiiri�6ddevelppin ntrights..'��.'- d by 'the-�&uthold ,Water �also have,the fig fta e Th' P�6pqsal - . -vaIues--,w4_:,te�i�ositive,lyaffected. -plan- gives c tol that visi ee; which e*g'_d; n.-.ffi' 1983Ao-stiidy -Scopa�---,ij� Ad- b Irk j them.loni4erhi,benefits McDonald,urged the-town t--- with-the ought to b& e water: -wait- te measures w.-ij.9-preseiited7"tci,'�the,.. ,.::,. ,. ,. d: before. i3i�ie.'tikes..bvei.:.,.'If:.*e T PT'4W boaT.. tq act annin&�*to -preserve t t e,.',:it§,,.w4 ef,':.-Suppii6s, She,de"- jid; '-d work session by',tN4 ' tooT.,lo*'i,.,t,o_get a-program- ogether, p�mqy. e�,man-. water:,agency -;1.,e.,o r9ppse look'-" designate`:areas flhe to al I., p. ay uring,a,wo p mem i w :, -id bed for. d waterfront d& Viers,'� a,Sub town ti _.exT�cip 6-,`,�86ver -p Geos I i - I—. -,, - dat d the itate.*h6-49 ing,:tQ' subcommittee I I . ..h ;�661djiick�q Id' e ty antityl-_� . . -by- cience-,..�,,ve ophIpnt,.9ites t av�- . _?, Mark- McD'ria gec 1�nd-qu pyqser o=dwater-protectidfi, -vatibn, he Q;---And 4o �6rt e Villa,"�6hiel.en neer. of'the Suffolk -w ter - , or. :qpnKihg water- the�: _g , said 91 .- . , ' 'we I-Dep&rtinent---of` b '6d7-''d:developments public, �yst6m�,,_:�.- V- illa added:--" e towir-can:be-self-sufficient,41: --"The Health: othSoiitholdresi- ---..-.'p�ropos .. :,% ev ai,!-_lack water: C -pump-water in'.And os y to en't§- -It's too 6 1 she.said,thb�i:oih6i..i'ownrd*sideiits fe�Lr.newwells.diij d it properly-. t , ,; . _.. I- , , : - . man ...- - -develop- -Dub w-;lftdep'1*6"tt.b..�their-,qwn.:.pnvdte-well's.--: 'd d there many Pp9ple fear accelerate acre watershe Sh� 4 -b ed urren pop with t� 4 "P"aft '-- e creat AC6 d'§,6 W-.0rotbeft j a s� 0- OW0111 ea f _q AW: la' f, P_ ',000.-- 0 w 8 T,6, its. 6 x d� _p an Ruth OlivadgrOed: .!.Ve'r6_J6bking s, Mattifficle-I er y, ond Lane 2i pecte �,.�Saturdtion._-,, oint o v'ln outhzo,dl near from.the RiV h _ I- 9111r. W-V v Az db W R vwo�t;W-N K_ I;_ T NO'A�; 2 r2ri DEC 19 FA SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD December 17, 1988 Town Board Town of Southold 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Planning Board Town of Southold 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Members of the Town Board and the Town Planning Board: The undersigned are residents of the Hamlet of Mattituck in the Town of Southold and each of us lives immediately adjacent or in close proximity to the 100 acre parcel of land owned by the Wanat family. The purpose of this letter is to state our objections to the substance of the change of zone application, which would substantially increase the density of development on the Wanat parcel (presently zoned for two acre development) as well as to the procedures which have been followed by both Boards in handling the review of this application. The procedures which have been followed by both the Town Board and the Planning Board in their reviews of the Wanat change of zone proposal and the Norris Estates condominium project have caused a good deal of confusion among affected members of the public. They have certainly not been designed to produce a full and fair disclosure of the various issues involved in those developments and the resulting confusion has restricted the opportunity of affected residents of the Town to voice their concerns about one or both of these projects. To begin with, it has become increasingly clear that the developer of both the Norris Estate and Wanat properties, Mr. Carr, would prefer to have the Town Board change the zoning classification of the Wanat property to something less than one unit per acre so that he can more than double the number of houses on the Wanat property (which he does not yet own, but apparently has a right to buy) . In exchange for this change in zoning classification; Mr. Carr has allegedly offered to build a fewer number of units than would be permitted under hamlet density zoning for the Norris Estates property. In .other words, his preferred project is the downzoning of the Wanat property, although the DEIS suggests that the proposed project is 108 condominiums on the Norris Estate. We understand that several months ago, the Town Board realized that the request to change the zoning for the Wanat property was a separate action that required a full-blown review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. However, for no apparent reason, the Town Board has informally permitted the applicant to examine the potential impacts of the Wanat change of zone in the context of a draft environmental impact statement on an unrelated project, the Norris Estates development. We have difficulty believing that the potentially significant impacts on our property from the Wanat change of zone can be properly evaluated as a minor part of the environmental review on a separate project. All of this is very unclear and confusing to us and is hardly fostering the kind of full and open debate that should occur on a development of this magnitude. In November of this year, there was a hearing convened by both the Town Board and the Planning Board, apparently on the Norris Estates' draft environmental impact statement. However, there is some indication that at least some of the parties to .the Norris Estates' application intended that hearing to address only the alternative project of the Wanat change of zone. It seems to us to be highly improper to conduct a public hearing on one project as part of an environmental review on a separate project. Did the November hearing constitute the SEQRA hearing on the Wanat project? Are we to assume that the "joint hearing" on the Wanat change of zone "alternative" to the Norris Estates' project was both the SEQRA review for the Wanat project and, perhaps, the legislative hearing on the change of zone application itself? Was the purpose of the hearing in November simply to decide whether the Town Board should proceed to have Mr. Carr prepare a draft EIS on the Wanat project as originally intended, so that we will have a full and thorough review of that project? The Town and Planning Boards' actions in reviewing these projects are raising more questions than they are answering, and local residents who will be affected by one or both of these developments need to have a clear explanation of what the Town thinks it's reviewing. It should also be kept in mind that at ,least some residents and public officials question whether Mr. Carr will ultimately obtain approval to build all of the units that he claims he can build on the Norris Estates property. To our knowledge, the Department of Health has not issued the approvals necessary for that project to proceed. Given the concern about water consumption and water quality all over the North Fork, we would not be surprised if the density of the Norris Estates project were significantly reduced after all reviews have been completed. As we all know, a particular zoning classification does not guaranty a landowner that he or she can develop a piece of property to the maximum density allowed in the ordinance, if natural constraints limit development. That may well be the case with the Norris Estates project, and it seems to us that the ultimate question of density on the Norris Estates parcel needs to be resolved before Mr. Carr can claim a right to shift those development rights to some other location in the Town. It also appears to us that Mr. Carr's proposal to change the zoning of property that he intends to buy looks very much like an illegal "spot zoning" designed to benefit a single property owner. We object to any effort by the Town to exercise its zoning authority in such an arbitrary fashion. We think it is incumbent upon our elected officials to carefully examine any change in zoning classification in the context of the objectives of the Town's Master Plan and such considerations as the recently released recommendations for a watershed protection zone (including the Wanat property) by the Southold Water Advisory Committee. Clearly, Mr. Carr's rezoning proposal flies directly in the face of this recommendation. It should be apparent that the Town's review of the Wanat change of zone application, either as a separate project or as an adjunct or alternative to the Norris Estates development, leaves much to be desired. It has been a piecemeal and segmented review, and confusing to members of the public. The important land use and environmental issues involved in the change of zone have been given a cursory examination. If the Town Board (or Planning Board) seriously intends to continue with the review of the change of zone application, then the proper procedure would be to go back to the Town's original request for the preparation of the draft EIS on the Wanat change of zone and for that project to be separately considered on its own merits in the context of the planning issues identified above, as well as many other concerns that local residents will raise. We earnestly hope that the members of both Boards will take these recommendations under advisement and that they will be incorporated into any future reviews of these two projects. Sincerely, The Committee to Preserve 2 Acre Z ng on Bergen Avenue ° I LAW OFFICES WICKHAM, WICKHAM & BRESSLER, P.C. MAIN ROAD, P.O. BOX 1424 MATTITUCK, LONG ISLAND WILLIAM WICKHAM MORTGAGE OFFICE ERIC J.BRESSLER NEW YORK 11952 ABIGAILA.WICKHAM 516-298-5300 516-298-8353 DANIEL C.ROSS KAREN J.HAGEN HUBERT F.SULLIVAN December 19, 1988 ' Southold Town Planning Board DEC 1 91988 Town Hall Main Road SOUTHOLD TOWN Southold, New York 11971 PLANNING BOARD Re: Carr Draft Environmental Impact Statement Gentlemen: We are the attorneys for Wendy Norris, the beneficial owner of the property to the East of the proposed Carr condominium project. She has asked us to submit the following comments on the draft Environmental Impact Statement submitted by Mr. Carr. 1 . The DEIS presents two alternatives for discharge of treated water: a) into two 300' deep recharge wells; or, in the alternative, b) via a discharge pipe into Peconic Bay in an easement over the Norris parcel . Please be advised that as to alternative (b) , no such easement exists, nor has Mr. Carr negotiated or discussed same with the.Norris family. It should therefore not be listed as an alternative means of discharge. This leaves alternative (a) as the only possibility for discharge. 2. Given that treated water must be discharged into two 300' deep recharge wells, we have the following comments: a) The impact of this discharge on the Marratooka Lake system does not appear to be discussed. b) There is apparently no alternative available to this discharge method, and it may therefore require greater scrutiny. 3. We note that the location of the sewer treatment plant has been proposed where it has the most negative impact on the Norris parcel , namely, directly adjoining the area where clustered lots would be located in the event of subdivision of the Norris farm. The impact of this location, particularly from olfactory and aesthetic perspectives, has not been addressed, nor have alternatives to its location been provided. We note that the prevailing wind direction is southwest during the warmer months, resulting in the possibility of odors directly on to the portion of the Norris farm, which would be developed into single family residences. This is to confirm the statement made at the public hearing and agreed to by Mr. Carr's attorney that there would be another public hearing in the event that no transfer of development rights is made and the Carr parcel is to be developed as a condominium project. Thank you for your consideration. Very truly yours, 4Abail A. Wickham AAW:amm Anson Environmental Environmental Audits 78 Dewey .Street Hazardous Waste Huntington, N.Y. 11743 Asbestos Surveys 516-549-4015 Impact Statements Wedand Investigations F" PLANNING 1 9 19M December 16, 1988OLD TOWN BOARD Town of Southold Frank Murphy, Supervisor Town Board Bennett Orlowski, Chairman/ Planning Board � � c� 7 r Town Hal I 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, N.Y. 11971 Dear Messrs. Murphy and Orlowski; Anson Environmental, Ltd., the environmental consultant for Committee Against Norris Downzoning Organization, has completed its review of the DEIS for the Norris Estates Development, New Suffolk Avenue, Mattituck, New York, prepared for the Southold Town Planning Board. Three major areas of concern have surfaced during our review - accuracy of the traffic study, adequacy of the local water supply and absence of traffic and other environmental impacts from other projects ahead of Norris Estates in the development process. The Town needs reasonable assurance that the information presented in the DEIS is accurate and complete so they can make an informed decision regarding the application. We believe that the information presented does not provide that assurance. The following comments explain why we have this belief. TRAFFIC The statement that the development of the Norris Estate will not have significant impact,:on the traffic in the area cannot be logical. The area south of New Suffolk Avenue and adjacent to the site between Ole Jule Lane and Marratooka Road has about 100 houses. The primary proposed development will have 108 condominiums. Therefore, traffic in the immediate project area will approximately double. This is a significant impact. Anson Environmental Page 2 The accuracy of the traffic study is subject to question for several reasons including the following. Numerous local residents noted that the hoses connected to the traffic counting machines- were not across the road during the entire counting period. In fact, there were long periods of time when counts were not being taken. Obviously, the traffic counts are not accurate. It is reasonable and customary for a traffic engineer to inspect the location of these hoses on at least a daily basis. The intersections of Marratooka Avenue/Marratooka Road and New Suffolk Avenue had vehicle volume counts and intersection turning movements on 9/ 17/86 not during July to August as stated on page C. 18. According to the DEIS these counts were not updated. These counts are probably low as the majority of the summer residents and visitors have left the area following the Labor Day holiday. Since the traffic counts were taken during 1986, are there any plans to update these counts to make them current? We believe that to obtain accurate traffic information, all the traffic counts should be repeated next summer or at least updated. LOCAL WATER SUPPLY If the underground reservior of freshwater is pictured as a "bowl of water", it is easy to understand what the impact of its use is on the quantity and quality of the water. If water is pumped from the bowl, the water level decreases. Water is replaced when it rains or when water enters the ground through cesspools. Of course, water introduced via cesspools is not clean and pure. Therefore, as the concentration of the cesspool water increases relative to the volume of rainfall, the quality of the water in the "bowl" is adversely affected. The quality of the water is also adversely affected by the replacement of the freshwater by salt water intrusion. Local residents currently use groundwater as a source of potable water. These residents have been experiencing, at an increasing rate, salt water intrusion into their wells. This intrusion has been increasing in both area affected and rate of occurance. The reasons for this intrusion are that the delicate balance between fresh and salt water is being changed because Anson Environmental Page 3 fresh water is pumped from the ground. As the freshwater is pumped from the ground, the fresh/salt water interface moves both inland and nearer the ground surface. This is substantiated because new wells in the project area are being installed further inland. This will continue to occur as the freshwater is depleted because of the development of the project. Who will replace the current local residents' wells once they have experienced salt water intrusion as a result of the increased pumpage because of project development? To prevent salt water intrusion, the groundwater table must be maintained at a high level, This will occur if the drawdown, which is calculated using the Ghyben-Herzberg analysis, is kept to a minimum and the groundwater is replaced with freshwater from the surface. This balance is critical to keeping the fresh/salt water interface from advancing toward the land. This advance is what makes the existing wells go "bad". Once the salt water is allowed to advance into the existing wells, it is unclear whether that advance can be reversed by increased rainfall. As Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrel pointout in the "Comprehensive Public Water Supply Study, Suffolk County", CPWS-24, Volume 11, pages 276-277, the ratio of tidal coast line to total land area as well as the low level of groundwater make the North Fork of Suffolk County one of the most susceptible to salt water intrusion, This means that since we do not have any control over the ratio of tidal coast line to total land, every effort should be made to maintain the level of groundwater in Mattituck, This can best be done by putting strict limitations on development of open land on the North Fork and particularly in areas like the Norris Estate where salt water intrusion has been documented. Obviously, the quality of the groundwater should also be maintained. Limiting the amount of cesspools wastes that are introduced into this fragile groundwater environmental will be very important to maintaining high quality groundwater. Anson Environmental Page 4 When the calculation of the amount of groundwater that can be pumped from the onsite aquifer was made, it would have been more conservative to use the amount of rainfall during a drought condition instead of a year with average rainfall. IMPACT ON SURFACE WATERBOD I ES The DE I S states that the project will not have any impact on surface waterbodies. This is hard to believe because of the proximity of Lake Marratooka to the proposed location of the water supply wells. The aquifer that Lake Marratooka recharges is the same one proposed for use as a source of drinking water for the project. As water is pumped from this aquifer, the level of the lake will be lowered. OTHER PROJECTS SEAR and the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) both require projects planned prior to the Norris Estates project to have their traffic and water consumption calculations added to the existing condition and thereby for the baseline condition. This addition was not made to determine the baseline condition, The Apple subdivision project located between Ole Jule Lane and Camp Mineola Road plans to build 7 houses. The Kreh/Allen subdivision plans the construction of 6 houses. When these 13 houses are added to the existing 100 houses in the immediate area bounding the Norris Estate you have the existing condition to which you should add the proposed 108 condominiums. Therefore, the true impacts of the Norris Estates project have not been calculated. Anson Environmental Page 5 SUMMARY The addition of either 108 condominiums to the project area with 100 existing houses, as well as other housing projects currently planned, will have significant impacts on local traffic, surface water and groundwater. These additions will have significant adverse impacts which the Board cannot allow to occur. Thank you for your time. Very truly yours, Dean Anson r � PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART - ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.ROE.Ili 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I10 (1891-1943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11 772 RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD J.TIMOTHY SHEA t 1950-19801 BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' FAX 516 475-5651 {� M �L- F IISEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O EiNlNf DOUGLAS J.LEROSE BRIAN McCAFFREY 447-8906 1JAMES G.HYLAND ADMITTED IN FLORIDA HO ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY December 9 , 1988 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Supervisor Murphy RE: NORRIS ESTATES and CARR/WANAT Dear Supervisor Murphy, Members of the Town Board, Chairman Orlowski and Members of the Planning Board: As we stated in our letter dated November 15, 1988 , we would address the various comments made at the public hearing .on - November 14, 1988 . This letter and its attendant memos from Holzmacher , McLendon & Murrell and Dunn Engineering constitute our reponses to those comments . We shall address as many individual comments as specifically as possible . The main issues of concern appear to be water quality and traffic . As a representative of the North Fork Environmental Council , Ronnie Wacker stated her belief that the water found on the Norris site was of poor quality due to its iron content . However , we have two (2) well sites that fully meet the health standards of the Suffolk County Department of Health Services . If iron were found to be present, there are readily available treatment systems which will solve this problem. Councilwoman Ellen Larsen relayed the concerns of the Norris Estates ' neighbors regarding both traffic and water . We believe a review of the memos attached to this letter will allay any fears they might have. PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU December 9 , 1988 Page 2 . Dean Anson' s questions regarding the traffic counts taken on the Norris property have been answered thoroughly in the memo by Dunn Engineering and we direct you there for an appropriate response . Several comments and concerns about water and development were mentioned regarding the Wanat parcel . Warren Brady, a resident of Bergen Avenue, questioned whether there would be sufficient water . If the alternative site is accepted, the developer will install a private water system built to County standards . Councilwoman Ruth Oliva ' s questions regarding water on the Wanat site are best answered by H2M1s memo. A question was raised by Kathryn Simichick regarding the "down zoning" of the Wanat parcel . This does not establish a precedent as it is a unique transfer for density purposes only. Planning Board member Richard Ward expressed concern over the possibility of "clustering" on Wanat . In our letter dated November 17, 1988 , to Valerie Scopaz, we referred to those same concerns . We would, , again, ask for the opportunity to meet with the Planning Board in order to discuss this element of the site planning. The clustering aspect will be worked out with . the Planning Board rather than the Town Board. We thank you for the opportunity to address these matters which concern us all . Very truly yours , LL.ETREAU & PELLETREAU ohn J . Hart JFH: hmm Encl . cc : See additional Rider 3U/13-14 PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider December 9 , 1988 Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq. Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz , Town Planner Richard Ward, Member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, Member of the Planning Board William Mullen, Member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, Member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher , McLendon & Murrell Att : Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron - Niego Associates Att': Sol Ni.ego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att : Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att : Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att : David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young 3U/15 iGRC)UP Holzm2cher, McLendon and Murrell, P.C. • Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, Inc. ® H2M tabs, Inc. Engineers, Architect, Planners, Scientist 5-5 Broad Hollow Road, NJeh•ille, N.Y. 11747.5076 (516) "756-8000 9 (201) 575-5400 FAX 51 h-G91-y J 22 ' November 16, 1988 Councilwoman Ruth Oliva Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Dear Councilwoman Oliva: I am responding to your questions and comments expressed at the November 14, 1988 joint meeting of the Southold -Town Board and Planning Board relative to the Norris/Wanat DEIS. 1. There were 2 additional test wells constructed which were sampled and found satisfactory by the Suffolk County Health Department at Norris . These results are shown on Appendix A page 9 in the Addendum to the D.E. I . S. There is no assurance that all 25 plots would have the same quality, probably not, but treatment systems are readily available for iron. We believe we have shown .in the- -engineering report and D.E.I.S. that there is sufficient water recharged on - Norris property for the -- 132 condo/single family project I, so there should be more than enough for 25 single family homes. 2 . The proposed well field (3 wells) at Wanat is situated near existing perched water ponds and wetland . Apparently there is sufficient hardpan and/or clay in the immediate vicinity to retard downward flow to the water table at these locations . They would tend to dry up during drought and high evaporation periods but since they are not hydraulically interconnected with the water table, pumping from the water table aquifer should have no affect or their water levels. 3 . The water quality is expected to be acceptable from the 3 wells proposed, based on a vertical profile test well which was constructed and sampled at several depths. Melville,NY 0 Fiverhead,N.Y.•Fairfield,NJ UP Councilwoman Oliva November 16, 1986 Town of Southold Page Two 4 . The potential brine disposal system shown adjacent to or near the shoreline of the Long Island Sound should present no problems. It will only. be constructed and used if denitrification is required. It would be mixed with the natural fresh water underflow to the Sound. 5. Your concerns about the operation reliability of another small water system are valid. The Developer prefers to own and operate the system as a private water company until such time as an expanded other system is near. A second alternative is to have the system operate as an additional satellite system of -the Suffolk County Water Authority. It could also be operated as a Town Water District. With the other nearby properties in need of potable water, it appears that the Suffolk County Water Authority should expand their Captain Kidd system to the area and include this Wanat system therein. There were a few other statements made by others at the meeting which need addressing. a. It is not true that development reduces recharge of -water. Except in areas where the runoff is piped to saltwater creeks etc, the recharge is increased. The increase in recharge ' is readily demonstrated by the fact that even minor preciptation on paved surfaces or roofs will find its way into leaching . basins where evapotranspiration is only a small fraction of what it is for a wooded area or even a vegetated area . Unless rainfall exceeds 1/4 to 1/2 inch in a short time or occurs on consecutive days or periods it is lost to the vegetation and near surface evaporation. b . If reverse osmosis were used as a treatment system for a brackish (salty) well supply at Norris, the tertiary treated waste water returned to the ground would represent a sizeable increase in fresh water in the area . It could replace much of the freshwater underflow now wasting to Peconic Bay. A GROUP fI -r Councilwoman Oliva November 16 , 1988 Town of Southold Page Three c. The statements about cost savings to the developer by the transfer are not correct. Please refer to Appendix D page 58 for a comparative water and sewer costs for Plan I or Plan II . I trust the above comments and responses are adequate for your needs. Very truly yours, HOLZMACHER, McLENDON & MURRELL, P.C. Z N. C1(.14c eb� P.E. SCM:mo cc: Supv. F. Murphy Members of the Town Board Bennett Orlowski, Jr. , Chairman of the -Planning Board Members of the Planning Board R. Carr --;- J. Hart H. Raynor J.A.C. Corp RE C Nov �LLfTRbgU & PELLETREAU Dunn Engineering Associaies Consulting Engineers 66 Main Street Westhampton Beach, N.Y. 11978 516-288-2480 December 5, 1988 Ms. Janet F. laeberle Pelletreau 6 Pelletreau Attorneys and Counsellors at Law 20 Churcli Street Box 110 Patchogue, NY 11772 Re: Norris Estates and Wanat Public Hearing Comments/Responses Dear Ms. Haeberle: We have reviewed the comments on the Traffic Impact Study prepared for the Norris Estates project submitted by Mr. Dean Anson and Ms. Ellen Larsen at the November 149 1988 public hearing. We offer the following responses to those comments: 1. Mr. Anson suggested that- in order to- find the "true traffic count" it would be necessary to add traffic from other subdivision projects that were accepted prior to the Norris Estates Project, namely the -Appel and Kreh subdivisions. The effects of these subdivisions has been accounted for in the impact study. In the analysis of traffic conditions in the "1989 Build Year", the existing traffic counts were increased by a factor of 3% per year to account for traffic growth. This- adjustment will account for increases in traffic generated by the Appel and Kreh subdivisions. The use of a steady growth factor more realistically accounts for changes in traffic patterns than focusing on specific nearby projects. For instance, in the case of the Kreh subdivision, which was approved many years ago, no new traffic has been generated and the site may not generate new traffic in the foreseeable future. The use of a steady growth factor smooths out the inconsistency in site specific data and is therefore more reliable. 2. Ms. Ellen Larsen commented that traffic was one of the concerns of the Norris Estates neighbors and that the traffic issues should be addressed further. We have prepared on extensive Traffic Impact Study that analyzes traffic conditions at all of the key intersections in the vicinity of the Norris Property. The study showed that the proposed development will generate a minimal amount of traffic and that this traffic can readily be accommodated by the existing road network. All traffic related issues were fully addressed in the Traffic Impact Study. December 5, 1988 Page 2 If you have any questions or require any additional information, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Sincerely,, ' al 0-a74--- AMES W. 0'CALLAGHAN, P.E. Vice President JOC/lam L880436 P860051 yt o f JAMES A.SCHONDEBARE Town Hall, 53095 Main Road TOWN ATTORNEY ®� P.O. Box 1179 ROBERT H.BERNTSSON ®1 Southold, New York 11971 ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY TELEPHONE (516)765-1939 OFFICE OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY TOWN OF SOUTHOLD November 28, 1988 sia��L Pelletreau 8 Pelletreau .` yo� 2 9 1 20 Church Street, Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 SOtitNOLD T0Id Attention: John J. Hart, Esq. -' PLANNING BOARD Ref: DEIS, Norris and Carr/Wanat Dear Mr. Hart: I have reviewed the minutes of the public hearing together with your letters of November 17, 1988, to the Town Clerk, Town Planner and Planning Board. must disagree with your opinion that the additional thirty day public comment period is limited to the Office of Coastal Zoning Management. A reading of the minutes indicate to me that the additional thirty days for comments is open to the public. Very truly yours, James A. Schondebare Town Attorney JAS:rbw cc: Town Board Planning Board PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETERV.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART (1891-1943) JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 RICHARDA.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (19SO-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN• FAX 516 475-5651 SEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG N 0 RUSSELL C.BURCHERI 0 �! DOUGLAS J.LEROSE Nov [Q�Q DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY,JR. 447-8925 o 2 1 P�^+ *ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD November 17, 1988 Honorable Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman 53095 Main Road Southold, N.Y. 1.1971 Dear Planning Board Chairman Orlowski: This will acknowledge receipt of your letter of November 15th. It is our understanding that the comment extension to December 19th was for the specific purpose of giving Coastal Zone Management an opportunity to respond to the proposal. We do not consent to nor have we waived any of our rights under SEQRA. Specifically, we would strenuously object to any attempt by anyone other than a Governmental body which would attempt to use this extended period for the purpose of .introducing new material or attempting to influence the decision of the Board. We will, of course, respond to those comments which were raised at the November 14th meeting. It is my understanding from Mr. Onufrak, by letter dated November 14, 1988 a copy of which is enclosed, that his opposition is to the "condominiumization" of the Norris property. It is my understanding that in the event the change of zone was denied that there would be further site plan discussions with the Planning Board concerning Norris. We would, of course, submit a plan which was based on the original proposal which the Courts have approved. Thank you for your attention. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU John J. Hart JJH:mw *See Rider Attached 1C/45-7 PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU *Rider October 17 , 1988 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq. Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART (1891-1943) JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK11772 (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN• FAX 516 475-5651 VSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG IT U RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O DOUGLAS J.LEROSE !J lS DENNIS 0.O'DOHERTY,JR. 447-8925 Q �1aV 2 1 *ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY TQVVI� gpUTNOLD PLANNING BOARD November 17, 1988 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 ATTN: MS. VALERIE- SCOPAZ, TOWN PLANNER Dear Ms . Scopaz : At Monday' s meeting there appeared to be some question raised by some Board members concerning clustering on the Wanat parcel . We would appreciarte an opportunity to discuss these elements of the site plan further with the Planning Board. It is our understanding that there is a Planning Board meeting set for November 30th. We would request an appointment at that meeting to clarify this situation. Thank you. Very truly yours, ql-gLLETREAU & PELLETREAU tJn A. art JJH:mw 1C/44 * See rider attached. PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU *Rider October .17, 1988 Hon. Francis J . Murphy Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher. McLendon & Murrell Att: " Sam McLendon D.ravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART 41891-19431 JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I 10 RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11 772 1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' FAX 516 475-5651 O S BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG pi RUSSELL C.BURCHERI0 U DOUGLAS J.LEROSE I , 1 Q JAMES G.HYLAND 447-8925 1�14 NOV 2 I '�sv�+ 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA QALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD November 17, 1988 Ms . Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk Town Hall 53095 Main Road PO Box 1179 Southold, NY 11971 Dear Ms . Terry: I am in receipt of your letter dated November 17th transmitting the certified resolution of the Southold Town Board . It is the position of the applicant that the Town Board is concerned only with the change of zone portion of the alternative set forth in the DEIS. We, therefore, wish to go on record as opposing any extention of the period for comment by any person, persons or agencies other than the Office of Coastal Zoning Management . The applicant will respond during the period of time allotted to any and all inquiries . We do not, nor have we, waived any of our rights under any applicable law or resolution and would strenuously object to any .new material being introduced in opposition to the application and to any attempt to limit the rights of the property owner . Very truly yours, ELLETREAU & PELLETREAU In i rt JJH:mw 1C/49 *See rider attached. i PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider November 17, 1988 Hon. Francis J . Murphy Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny 'IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, .Town Planner Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards , member of. the Planning. Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher; McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter. Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje .Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young lU/1.1 Tr PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU 'I ATTORNEYS AND COUNSEL A J ROBERT S.PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER 'BOX IIO jjp911p43� LD JOHN J.HART PO CHURCH STREET RICH A. JOHN J.ROE,III iipso-i9eo� FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU J.TIMOTHY SHEA TEL. 516 447-B900 BRUCE T.WALLACE OF COUNSEL KEVIN A.SEAMAN FAX 516 475-5651 _ VANESSA M.SHEEHAN* BENJAMIN L.HERZVUEIG D (� o RUSSELLC UBRCHER10 447-8906 �Y I DOUGLAS J.LEROSE 4 E BRIAN McCAFFREY n ` t JAMES G.HYLAND ' ' j ` F 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA O ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY SOUTHOLJ?i;ti;iV ! .'8 1 November 15. 1988 �� ��♦ Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 is J . Murphy, Chairman, Town Board Attention: Hon. Franc • RE: Norris Estates and Carr/Wanat Dear Chairman Murphy, Members of the Town Board, Chairman Orlowski and Members of the Planning Board: opportunity to thank you for the We would like to take this Dint Planning . time given to our group at last evening' s j Board/Town Board public hearing on the DEIS for the above properties. We are presently drafting Our responses forwardosame to the eyou�shortlyraised at last night ' s hearing and shall Thank you for your courtesy and cooperation. Very truly yours, PE LETREAU & PELI,ETREAU ,-z Jdhn Har JJH: jlm cc: *See Attached Rider 3U(10) jaELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider November 15, 1988 Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr . .Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young &Young Att: Howard Young lU/1.1 1 - �� P r C4a ' c dr1clrJ�, •� Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold,New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY TELEPHONE TOWN CLERK ''- � (516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD November 17, .1988: NOV 1 110 SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD John J . Hart, Esq. Pelletreau 8 �Pelletreau 20 Church Street, P. O. Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11935 Dear Mr. Hart: Transmitted herewith is a certified resolution of the Southold Town Board, adopted at their regular meeting held on November 15, 198801 extending the comment period with respect to the Norris/.Carr/Wanat Draft Environmental Impact Statement an additional 30 days. Very truly yours, Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk Enclosure / cc: Planning Board Henry E. Raynor David J.S. Emilita 1 O Town Hall, 53095 Main Road 01 P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY �l l ' TELEPHONE TOWN CLERK (516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS IS' TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 15, 1988:: RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby extends the comment period with respect to the Norris/Carr/Wanat Draft Environ- mental Impact Statement for an additional 30 days to December 19, 1988*.' Xud/ith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk November 17, 1988 i Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE - (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD November 15, 1988 John J. Hart Pelletreau & Pelletreau P.O. Box 110 Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Norris/Carr/Wanat DEIS SCTM #1000-122-5-4 SCTM 41000-112-1-16 Dear Mr. Hart: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, November 14, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board extend the comment period thirty days from November 19, 1988 to December. 19, 1988. It is understood that there is an agreement with yourself and Joseph J. Onufrak, Attorney for Cando Committee, that, if the change of zone does not take place, another public hearing will be scheduled in regards to the Norris site. The public hearing on the DEIS of the above noted proposal was opened and closed at the meeting of Monday, November 141 1988. r If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to . . contact this office. Very troy yours, BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN cc: Town Board David Emilita jt Mike Corey, NYS Coastal Management Program November 14, 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Board We the undersigned reside in an area that is slated for development, a projected 300 homes or more . Examples of development, Thorton Smith project, Farmveu, and Long Meadows Estates, to name a few. All these developments will be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes to build 107 houses on 107 acres. This project will build homes on one acre parcels . We oppose spot down zoning on this parcel and feel it is not conducive to the area where a two acre zoning restriction exists . Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is allowed to proceed with this development, future developers on large tracts of land will demand the same considerations . We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres . Thank you. November 14 , 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Board We the undersigned reside in an area that is slated for development, a projected 300 homes or more . Examples of development, Thorton Smith project, Farmveu, and Long Meadows Estates, to name a few. All these developments will be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes to build 107 houses on 107 acres . This project will build homes on one acre parcels. We oppose spot down zoning on this parcel and feel it is not conducive to the area where a two acre zoning restriction exists . Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is allowed to proceed with this development, future developers on large tracts of land will demand the same considerations . We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres. Thank you. y t� _ November 14 , 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Board We the undersigned reside in an area that is slated for development, a projected 300 homes or more . Examples of development, Thorton Smith project, Farmveu, and Long Meadows Estates, to name a few. All these developments will be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes to build 107 houses on 107 acres . This project will build homes on one acre parcels . We oppose spot down zoning on this parcel and feel it is not conducive to the area where a two acre zoning restriction exists . Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is allowed to proceed with this development, . future developers on large tracts of land will demand the same considerations . We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres. Thank you. �l/`� coy- 7- ✓err �!.� �� �`��✓ November 14 , 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Board We the undersigned reside in an area that is slated for development, a projected 300 homes or more Examples of development, Thorton Smith project, Farmveu, and Long Meadows Estates, to name a few. All these developments will be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes to build 107 houses on 107 acres. This project will build homes on one acre parcels . We oppose spot down zoning on this parcel and feel it is not conducive to the area where a two acre zoning restriction exists . Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is allowed to proceed with this development, future developers on large tracts of land will demand the same considerations . We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres. Thank you. November 14 , 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Board We the undersigned reside in an area that is slated for development, a projected 300 homes or more . Examples of development, Thorton Smith project, Farmveu, and Long Meadows Estates, to name a few. All these developments will be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes to build 107 houses on 107 acres. This project will build homes on one acre parcels. We oppose spot down zoning on this parcel and feel it is not conducive to the area where a two acre zoning restriction exists . Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is allowed to proceed with this development, future developers on large tracts of land will demand the same considerations . We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres. Thank you. 62�1Z1111,4 eJc November 14 , 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Board We the undersigned reside in an area that is slated for development, a projected 300 homes or more Examples of development, Thorton Smith project, Farmveu, and Long Meadows Estates, to name a few. All these developments will be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes to build 107 houses on 107 acres . This project will build homes on one acre parcels. We oppose spot down zoning on this parcel and feel it is not conducive to the area where a two acre zoning restriction exists . Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is allowed to proceed with this development, future developers on large tracts of land will demand the same considerations . We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres. Thank you. November 14 , 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Southold -Town Board We the undersigned reside in an area that is slated for development, a projected 300 homes or more Examples of development, Thorton Smith project, Farmveu, and Long Meadows Estates, to name a few. All these developments will be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes to build 107 houses on 107 acres. This project will build homes on one acre parcels. We oppose spot down zoning on this parcel and feel it is not conducive to the area wherea two acre zoning restriction exists . Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is allowed to proceed with this development, future developers on large tracts of land will demand the same considerations . We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres. Thank you. November 14 , 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Board We the undersigned reside in an area that is slated for development, a projected 300 homes or more - . Examples of development, Thorton Smith project, Farmveu, and Long Meadows Estates , to name a few. All these developments will be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes ' to build 107 houses on 107 acres. This project will build homes on one acre parcels. We oppose spot down zoning on this parcel and feel it is not conducive to the area where a two acre zoning restriction exists . Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is allowed to proceed with this development, 'future developers on large tracts of land will demand the same considerations . We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres.. Thank you. November 14 , 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Board We the undersigned reside in an area that is slated for development, a projected 300 homes or more Examples of development, Thorton Smith project, Farmveu, and Long Meadows Estates, to name a few. All these developments will be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes to build 107 houses on 107 acres. This project will build homes on one acre parcels . We oppose spot down zoning on this parcel and feel it is not conducive to the area where a two acre zoning restriction exists . Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is allowed to proceed with this development, future developers on large tracts of land will demand the same considerations . We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres. Thank you. /2 � LL11E L�1, d \ t Gov i g i9s� SOU t HOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD v N November 14, 1988 Town Supervisor Members of the Town Council Chairman of the Planning Board Members of the Planning Board Southold 'Township Town Hall Southold, New York Re: DEIS Norris Estates/Wanat Property Gentlemen: On behalf of the Committee Against Norris Downzoning Organization, the community group which, as you know, has been a major opponent of condominiumization of the Norris Estates . I write to confirm for the record our understanding that the public hearing scheduled for November 14, 1988 is limited in scope to a discussion of Richard Carr's plan B, in his DEIS statement, that is, an alternate proposal to build single family houses on the Norris site and to approve a yield transfer of zoning to the Wanat site at Bergen Avenue. In the event the Town undertakes to consider Mr. Carr's plan A, calling for condominiumization of the Norris Estates, I respectfully request the opportunity to be heard on behalf of the Committee at a public hearing to renew our opposition to the latter proposal . Very truly yours, Joseph J. Onufrak JJO:pak t l QYo NOV 14 ANC;I�G 8a R� November 14, 1988 Town Supervisor Members of the Town Council Chairman of the Planning Board Members of the Planning Board Southold Township Town Hall Southold, New York Re: DEIS Norris Estates/Wanat Property Gentlemen: On behalf of the Committee Against Norris Downzoning Organization, the community group which, as you know, has been a major opponent of condominiumization of the Norris Estates . I write to confirm for the record our understanding that the public hearing scheduled for November 14, 1988 is limited in scope to a discussion of Richard Carr's plan B, in his DEIS statement, that is, an alternate proposal to build single family houses on the Norris site and to approve a yield transfer of zoning to the Wanat site at Bergen Avenue. In the event the Town undertakes to consider Mr. Carr's plan A, calling for condominiumization of the Norris Estates, I respectfully request the opportunity to be heard on behalf of the Committee at a public hearing to renew our opposition to the ''latter proposal . Very truly yours, Joseph J. Onufrak JJO:pak REMVED 10V 91,988 Southold Town n c►_rk _ NOV 9 W8 �._. SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD November 1, 1988 Town Hall Town of Southold 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Town Board RE: NORRIS ESTATES and CARR/WANAT CHANGE OF ZONE Dear Supervisor Murphy and Town Board Members: We, the undersigned , are residents of Bergen Avenue, the area involved in the proposed Carr/Wanat Change of Zone application that has been before the board since October 22, 1987. We have examined the application and do not oppose the proposed development into one acre lots. We ask that you set a date for the Change of Zone hearing. Hopefully, this could be on the 14th of November , 1988. simultaneously with the public hearing on the Norris project. Thank you for your attention. Very truly yours. J 1U/84 ,Y Age RECEIVED 'NOV 919ss Southold Town Clerk November 1, 1988 Town Hall Town of Southold 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Town Board RE: NORRIS ESTATES and CARR/WANAT CHANGE OF ZONE Dear Supervisor Murphy and Town Board Members: We, the undersigned, are residents of Bergen Avenue, the area involved in the proposed Carr/Wanat Change of Zone application that has been before the board since October 22, 1987. We have examined the application and do not oppose the proposed development into one acre lots. We ask that you set a date for the Change of Zone hearing. Hopefully, this could be on the 14th of November , 1988. simultaneously with the public hearing on the Norris project. Thank you for your attention. Very truly yours, 1U/84 z LEGAL.NOTICE Notice of Public Hearing• NOTICE ' IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to Section CO U N TY O F S U F FO L K ss: 276 of the Town Law, a public STATE OF NEW YO R K -hearing will.'be held, by the Southold'10wn:Planning Board, f at the Town'Hall, Main.Road, Southold, New .York in said Patricia Wood, being duly sworn, says that she is the Town on the "14th day of "Editor, of THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER-WATCHMAN November, 1988 on the question of the following: a public newspaper printed at Southold, in Suffolk County; .7:30 p.m. A joint Planning and that the notice of which the annexed is a printed copy, Board/Town Board public hear- ing-on-the Draft Environmental has been published in said. Long Island Traveler-Watchman Impact Statement with,respect I once each week for . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .�. . . . weeks to Norris Estates land the Carr/ Wanat Change of Zone;•located at the Town.of Southold,Coun- I successively, commencing on the . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ty of Suffolk; State of'New l York. Suffolk County'Pax Map No. 1000-122-54. day of U V�-•>--�• 19 . . SEQR lead agency for the Draft Environmental Impact I � / Statement is the Southold.Plan- ning Board. SEQR lead agency for the change of zone is the Southold Town Board. Copies of the Draft Environmental Im- pact Statement are on file at the Sworn to before me this . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . day of Office of the Southold Town Planning Board, Town Hall, � 1 'Main Road, Southold, New "' . . . . . . . . f / . . . . . 19 . . York,and may be reviewed dur- ing regular,business hours. 8:00 p.m: Public.hearing on I the Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect'to Cliff. side/Tidemark, located at the • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • Town-of Southold, County of Notary Public Suffolk,and State of New York. BARBARA A. SCHNEI DER Suffolk County.Tax Map No:1000-45-14. NOTARY PUBLIC, State of New York SEQR -lead••agency is the No. 4806846 Southold Town Planning Board. Qualified in Suffolk County .�/�� Copies of,the,',Draft Environ- - -- reliminary Commission Expires cP 8:30 p.m. P ap- i mental Iriipact Statemehi`are on proval of the major subdivision file at the Office of the Southold of Long Meadow Estates, i Town Planning Board, Town located at the Town of Hall, Main Road, Southold, Southold, County of Suffolk, j New York,and may be review- and State of New York.Suffolk ed during regular business County Tax Map No. hours. 1000-1113-7-19.2. The property is bordered on 8:15 p.m'. Preliminary ap- The property is bordered on the North by Hiawatha's Path; proval of the major subdivision the north by Sound Avenue;on on the East by land now or of Farmveu Associates, located the East by land now or former- formerly of Helen-Verity, by at the Town of Southold,Coun- ly of Joseph and Lee Pufahl,by land now or formerly of Theo- ty of Suffolk 'and State of New land now on formerly of John dore•and Bridget-Shimlick, by York.Suffolk County Tax,Map and Catherine Simicich;on the land now;or formerly of Sarkus; No. 1000-121-3-2. South by land now:'or formerly on the South by land,now or The property is bordered on of John and Catherine'Simicich, formerly of Whittington;on the the North by Sound Avenue,by by land now or formerly of West by land now or formerly of land now or formerly of H. Kevin'and Lesley Milowski, by St..Patrick's'Church, by land Denys;on the East by land now land now'or formerly of Chu- now or formerly of Thomas'and or formerly of E. Davison, by diak; on the west by Cox Neck Erika Taggart.` ; land now or formerly of I. Road, Any person desiring to be Matzger; on the,South-East by 8:45`p.m. Final approval of heard. on the. above, matters. land now or formerly of L: the minor subdivision on Town should appear at the ,nne•au, Matzger, ,by land now or owned property at Hiawatha's place'specified. formerly of Aldrich Land Real- Path with respect to affordable BY ORDER-OF ty Association;on the South-'by housing,located at the Town of THE SOUTHOLD TOWN larid,'nbvr''or formerly of J. Southold, County of Suffolk, PLANNING BOARD Ku j awski;on the West by Ald- and State of New York.Suffolk BENNETT ORLOWSKI JR. rich Land, by land now.or County Tax Map No. 1000-78-3- CHAIRMAN formerly of J. Dioreraon. 51- IX,, 11/3/88 (21) -- -- — — — L8:1 p5 m Preliminary approval of LEGAL NOTICE I the major subdivision of Farmveu Notice of Public Hearing Associates,located at the Town.of NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that Southold, County of Suffolk, and STATE OF NEW YORK) pursuant to Section 276 of th win State of New York.S folk County Law,a public hearing will be held b Ij Tax Map No 1-3-2. )SS: the Southold Town Planning Board,! The property is bordered on the COUNTY OF SUFFOLK) at the Town Hall, Main Road,l North by Sound.Avenue, by land Southold,New York in said Town on now or formerly of H.Denys;on the the 14th day of November, 1988 on', East by land now or formerly of E. Christina t1113 C'OIIt an i- Of Mattituck the question of the following: Davison,by land now or formerly of- , In 7:30 p.m. A joint Planning I.Matzger;on the..South-East by land.. said County,being duly sworn,Says that he/she is Principal\1_ Board/Town Board public hearing on now or formerly�of`L.Matzger,by " the Draft Environmental Impact! Land now or formerly of Aldrich Land Clerk of THE SUFFdLK TIMES, a Weekly Newspaper, Statement with respect.to Norris Es-; Realty Association;on the South by published at Mattituck, in the Town of Southold, County of tates and the Carr/Wanat Change of; land now or formerly of J.Kujawski; Suffolk and State of New Yor and that the Notice of whicp Zone, located at the Town of on the West by Aldrich Land,by land Southold,County of Suffolk,State of now or formerly of J.Dioreraon. the annexed IS a printed copy,has been regularly published In New York.Suffolk County Tax Map 8:30 p.m.Preliminary approval of No.10001122-54. the major subdivision of Long said•Newspaper once each week for] weeks SEQR lead agency for the Draft Meadow Estates,located at the Town SUCCeSSIV@Iy, commencing On the 3 day o f Environmental Impact Statement isi of Southold,County of Suffolk,and the Southold Planning Board.SEQR1 State of New York.Suffolk County _Nnyemh_A'r 19 14-R lead agency for the change of zone is!. Tax Map No.1000-113-7-19.2. the Southold Town Board.Copies of The property is bordered on the the Draft Environmental Impact- north by Sound Avenue;on the East Statement'are on file at the Office o1 by land now or formerly of Joseph the Southold Town Planning-Board,' and Lee Pufahl,by land now or for- Town Hall, Main Road, Southold; merly of John and Catherine Simi- New York,and may be reviewed dur- cich;on the South by land now or. t' Principal Clerk ing regular business hours. formerly of John and Catherine 8:00 p.m. Public hearing on the Simicich,by land now or formerly of Draft Environmental Impact State- Kevin and Lesley Milowski,by land ment with respect to• Cliff- now or formerly of Chudiak;on the side/fidemark,located at the Town of i west by Cox Neck Road. Sworn to before this i Southold, County of Suffolk, and (J {yARY K.DEGNAN State of New York.Suffolk County 8:45 p.m. Final approval of the day Of 19 Tax Map No.1000-45-1-1. minor subdivision on Town owned NOTARY PUBLIC,State of New York SEQR lead agency is the Southold property at Hiawatha's Path with re- Suffolk County No.4 4 860 Town Planning Board.Copies of the spect to affordable housing,located at e_ Term Expires Februar 19y Draft Environmental Impact State- the Town of Southold, County of „ ment are on file at the Office of the Suffolk, and State of New York. Southold Town Planning Board, Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000- Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, 78-3-51. New York,and may be reviewed dur- The property.is bordered on the ing regular business hours. North by Hiawatha's Path; on the East by land now or formerly of He- len Verity,by land now or formerly of Theodore and Bridget-Shimlick,by land now or formerly.of Sarkus;on the South by land now or formerly of Whittington; on the West by land now or formerly of St. Patrick's Church,by land now or formerly of Thomas and Erika Taggart. Any person desiring to be heard on the above matters should appear at the time and place specified BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR CHAIRMAN 6112-1TN3 r � i Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 ItW Southold, New York 11971 �110 P TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD November 1, 1988 Henry Raynor -- 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Norris Estates ;- SCTM #1000-122-5-4 Dear Mr. Raynor: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, October 31, 1988 . RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set a joint Planning Board/Town Board public hearing on the DEIS for Norris Estates and the DEIS for Carr/Wanat change of zone to be held on Monday, November 14, 1988 at 7: 30 P.M. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Very truly yours, BENNETT 'ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN cc: David Emilita John J. Hart, Pelletreau & Pelletreau Suffolk County Department of Health Services Suffolk county Planning Commission NYS Department of Environmental Conservation Thomas C. Jorling, DEC Commissioner Judith Terry, Town Clerk Building Department Board of Appeals ` Board of Trustees Applicant Planning Board LEGALS NOTICE Notice of Public Hearing NOTICE IS HEREBY, GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276 of the Town Law; . a public hearing will be held by the Southold Town Planning Board, at the Town Hall, Main Road Southold, New York in said Town on the 14th day of November, 1988 on the question of the following: 7: 30 p.m. A joint Planning Board/Town Board public hearing on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect to Norris Estates and the Carr/Wanat Change of Zone, located at the Town of Southold, county of Suffolk, State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-122-5-4. SEQR lead agency for the Draft Environmental Impact Statement is the Southold Planning Board. SEQR lead agency for the change of zone is the Southold Town Board. Copies of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement are on file at the Office of the Southold Town Planning Board, Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, and may be reviewed during regular business hours. 8: 00 p.m. public hearing on the Supplemental Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect to Cliffside/Tidemark, located at the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-45-1-1. SEQR lead agency is the Southold Town Planning Board. Copies of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement are on_ file at the Office of the Southold;.Town Planning Board, Town Hall, ,_._ Main Road, Southold, New York, and may be reviewed during regular business hours. 8: 15 p.m. Preliminary approval of the major subdivision of Farmveu Associates, located at the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New"York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-121-3-2. The property is bordered on the North by Sound Avenup, by land now or- formerly of H. Denys; on the East by land now or formerly of E. Davison, by land now or formerly of I. Matzger; on the South-East by land now or formerly of L. Matzger, by Land now or formerly of Aldrich Land Realty Association; on the South by land now or formerly of J. Kujawski; on the West by Aldrich Land, by land now or formerly of J. Dioreraon. 8:30 Preliminary approval of the major subdivision of Long Meadow Estates, located at the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-113-7-19.2. The property is bordered on the north by Sound Avenue; on the East by land now or formerly of Joseph and Lee Pufahl, by land now or formerly of John and Catherine Simicich; on the South by land now or formerly of John and Catherine Simicich, by land now or formerly of Kevin and Lesley Milowski, by land now or formerly of Chudiak; on the west by Cox Neck .Road. 8 : 45 p.m. Final approval of the minor subidivision on Town owned property at Hiawatha' s Path with respect to affordable housing, located at the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-78-3-51. The property is bordered on the North by Hiawatha's Path; on the East by lnad now or formerly of Helen Verity, by land now or formerly of Theodore and Bridget Shimlick, by land now or formerly of Sarkus; on the South by land now or formerly of Whittington; on the West by land now or formerly of St. Patricks Church, by land now or formerly of Thomas and Erika Taggart. Any person desiring to be heard on the above matters should appear at the time and place specified. BY -ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN PLEASE PRINT ONCE ON THURSDAY NOVEMBER 3rd AND FORWARD ,five ( 5) AFFIDAVIT TO THIS OFFICE, THANK YOU. COPIES SENT TO: Long Island Travler/Watchman :..- Suffolk Times 1 l LEGALS NOTICE Notice of Public Hearing NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276 of the Town Law, a public hearing will be held by the Southold Town Planning Board, at the Town Hall, Main Road Southold, New York in said Town on the 14th day of November, 1988 on the question of the following: 7: 30 p.m. A joint Planning Board/Town Board public hearing on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect to Norris Estates and the Carr/Wanat Change of Zone, located at the Town of Southold, county of Suffolk, State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-122-5-4. SEQR lead agency for the Draft Environmental Impact Statement is the Southold Planning Board. SEQR lead agency for the change of zone is the Southold Town Board. Copies of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement are on file at the Office of the Southold Town Planning Board, Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, and may be reviewed during regular business hours. .8: 00 p.m. public hearing on the Supplemental Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect to Cliffside/Tidemark, located at the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-45-1-1. SEQR lead agency is the Southold Town Planning Board. Copies of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement are on, file at the Office of the Southold Town Planning Board, Town Hall, ,..- Main Road, Southold, New York, and may be reviewed during regular business hours. 8: 15 p.m. Preliminary approval of the major subdivision of Farmveu Associates, located at the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-121-3-2. The property is bordered on the North by Sound Avenue, by land now or.. formerly of H. Denys; on the East by land now or formerly of E. Davison, by land now or formerly of I'. Matzger; on ,the South-East by land now or formerly of L. Matzger, by Land now or formerly of Aldrich Land Realty Association; on the South by land now or formerly of J. Kujawski; on the West by Aldrich Land, by land now or formerly of J. Dioreraon: 8: 30 Preliminary approval of the major subdivision of Long Meadow Estates, located at the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-113-7-19.2. The property is bordered on the north by Sound Avenue; on the East by land now or formerly of Joseph and Lee Pufahl, by land now or formerly of John and Catherine Simicich; on the South by land now or formerly of John and Catherine Simicich, by land now or formerly of Kevin and Lesley Milowski, by land now or formerly of Chudiak; on the west by Cox Neck Road. 8:45 p.m. Final approval of the minor subidivision on Town owned property at Hiawatha' s Path with respect to affordable housing, located at the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-78-3-51. The property is bordered on the North by Hiawatha' s Path; on the East by lnad now or formerly of Helen Verity, by land now or formerly of Theodore and Bridget Shimlick, by land now or formerly of Sarkus; on the South by land now or formerly of Whittington; on the West by land now or formerly of St. Patricks Church, by land now or formerly of Thomas and Erika Taggart. Any person desiring to be heard on the above matters should appear at the time and place specified. =- BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN PLEASE PRINT ONCE ON THURSDAY NOVEMBER 3rd AND FORWARD five ( 5) AFFIDAVIT TO TAIS OFFICE, THANK YOU. COPIES SENT TO: Long Island Travler/Watchman Suffolk Times GGRR 7ua, October 31, 1988 Re : D E I S for Norris Estate submittet by Richard Carr d/b/a Shamrock Holdings , Dear Mrs. Scopaz We are the residents of the northerly side of Alois Lane in Mattituck, bordering on the southerly side of the Norris Estates project. We have. examined the Subdivision Sketch Plan, Norris Estates , dated June 20 1988 submitted by- Mr. Carr,. and prepared by Young and Young, which was received by the Southold Town Planning Board on August 12, 1988. That plan indicated that Mr. Carr has designated acreage in the south- easterly portion of the site for "Open Space and drainage." The location of the sump area concerns us. In each case, our wells are located within 50 feet of .the purposed drainage area. The close proximity of the runoff collec- tion area on Mr. Carrs ' s property to our drinking water is objectionable. We ask you to require Mr. Carr to reposition his drain- age area so that it burdens us no more than he would have it burden those to whom he purposes to sell his subdivided:: lots. Thank you for your consideration in this matter. Very truly yours, Iv1r. && pMrs Edward. Siegmann Mrs . & -Mrs Harry Jaqukllard Mr. & MM ss ra 111 oney ,�� FoUr�o� yam, Town Hall, 53095 Main Road 0 P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 ofi TELEPHONE , (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD MEMORANDUM To: All involved agencies From: The Planning Board office Re: Draft Envionmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for Norris Estates Date: October 24, 1988. Enclosed please find a copy of the addendum to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Norris Estates. The Draft Environmental Impact Statement was mailed to you on August 12, 1988. On Monday, October 17, ' 1988 the Planning Board deemed the DEIS complete upon receipt. of all information bound into one document. The thirty day comment period will end on November 19, 1988. A public hearing will be held within this thirty day comment period. cc: David Emilita Suffolk County Department of Health Services Suffolk County Planning - Commission NYS Department of Environmental Conservation Thomas C. Jorling, DEC Commissioner Judith Terry, Town Clerk Building Department Board of Appeals Board. of Trustees it b 8Ao�ytk S FIP t a . . rim Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD MEMORANDUM To: All involved agencies From: The Planning Board office Re: Draft Envionmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for Norris Estates Date: October 24, 1988. Enclosed please find a copy of the addendum to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Norris Estates. The Draft Environmental Impact Statement was mailed to you on August 12, 1988. On Monday, October 17, 1988 the Planning Board deemed the DEIS complete upon receipt of all information bound into one document. The thirty day comment per-iod will end on November 19, 1988. A public hearing will be held within this thirty day comment period. cc: David Emilita Suffolk County Department of Health Services Suffolk County Planning Commission NYS Department of Environmental Conservation Thomas C. Jorling, DEC Commissioner Judith Terry, Town Clerk Building Department ' Board of Appeals Board of Trustees jt Jio PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I1 O 4 189 1-1 943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE NEW YORK 11772 RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD , J.TIMOTHY SHEA 11950-1980> BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 KEVIN A.SEAMAN ROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' FAX 516 475-5651 BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG OF COUNSEL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O DOUGLAS J.LEROSE BRIAN McCAFFREY 447-8906 ^n �.......a.. JAMES G.HYLAND 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA O ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEYOff 1 O 1988 pt � i114 11`J October 18, 1988 a SOUTHOL D TOWN PLANPJING 60.4R0 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Chairman, Planning Board RE: NORRIS ESTATES Dear Chairman Orlowski: Pursuant to the meeting held by your Board on October 17, 1988, enclosed please find the Addendum to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement as requested. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU *. Jo J . Hart v' JFH: jlm Enclosure cc: **See Attached Rider** 1U(74) PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider October 18. 1988 Hon. Francis J . Murphy Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher. McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, .P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young 1U/75 f i PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.ROE,111 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I (1891-1943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD f� D A.SCHOENFELD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 1177 LY J.TIMOTHY SHEA � � � a M �C 1950-19801 BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900w" ll �C T KEVIN A.SEAMAN H.PELLETREAU N M.SHEEHAN' FAX 516 475-5651 BE OCT BENJAMIJAMIN L.HERZWEIG knam F COUNSEL RM RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O DOUGLAS J.LEROSE SOilTHOLD TOW N BRIAN M cCAF FREY 4 4 7-8 9 0 6 PLANNING BOARD JAMES G.HYLAND 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA O ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY October 13 , 1.988 Town of Southampton 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Valerie Scopaz Town Planner, Planning Department RE: NORRIS ESTATES/WANAT Sent: Express Mail Dear Ms . Scopaz : It is our understanding that the questions posed by you and the Planning Board are answered and that the Planning Board will make a recommendation at the meeting to be held on Monday, October 17, 1988 . Very truly yours, 3P . ETRE & PELLETREAU Joh J . Oar j lm cc : **See Attached Rider** 1U(63) A r + PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider October 14, 1988 Hon. Francis J . Murphy Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celende.r Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young 1U/08 0CT 2 4 �6 , � cn1'y' Town Hall, 53095 Main Road SOUTHOLD TOWN j. P.O. Box 1179 PLANNING BOARD' 4t Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY �� TELEPHONE TOWN CLERK (516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OFF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD October 24, •1988' John J. Hart, Esq. Pelletreau 8 Pelletreau 20 Church Street, P. O. Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 Dear Mr. Hart: Transmitted herewith is a certified. resolution of the Southold Town Board, adopted at their regular meeting held on October 18, 1988, with respect to the Carr/Wanat/Norris Draft Environmental Impact Statement. Very truly yours, Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk Enclosure cc: Planning Board Henry E. Raynor David J . S. Emilita �A s _ o��Ff01Kc�� o Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY 1 TELEPHONE TOWN CLERK (516) 765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS IS TO CERTIFY .THAT .THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN 'BOARD AT :A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 18,, 198&: RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect to the Carr/Wanat change of zone petition, said acceptance to. be upon receipt of a completed DEIS' which shall include certain supplemental information which was received and, approved by the Planning Board on October 17, .1988.; and be it further RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby authorizes the Planning Board to publish notice of.a joint Planning Board/Town Board public hearing on the aforesaid DEIS to be held on Monday, November 14, 198&, at the Southold, Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Judith T. Terry Southold Town Cler . October 21, 198& ff PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHNJ.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I10 (1891-1943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEWYORK 11772 RICHARDA.SCHOENFELD J.TIMOTHY SHEA (1950-1980) BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 KEVIN A.SEAMAN ROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' FAX 516 475-5651 BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG OF COUNSEL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O DOUGLAS J.LEROSE BRIAN McCAFFREY 447-8906 —_''+I� JAMES G.HYLAND 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA I `-� y O ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY 4 October 18 , 1988 SOUTHOLD TOWN PLrtidsdltVG BOt?RD Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Bennett Orlowski, Jr. . Chairman, Planning Board RE: NORRIS ESTATES Dear Chairman Orlowski : Pursuant to the meeting held by your Board on October 17 , 1988, enclosed please find the Addendum to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement as requested. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU *onJ . Hart v' JFH: jlm Enclosure cc : **See Attached Rider** lU(74) PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider October 18 , 1988 Hon. Francis J . Murphy Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celende.r Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young 1U/75 a PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I 10 (1891-1 943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE NEWYORK 11772 RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD , J.TIMOTHY SHEA (1950-1980) BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 KEVIN A.SEAMAN ROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' FAX 516 475-5651 BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG OF COUNSEL ( RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O DOUGLASJ.LEROSEo' l7 6 BRIAN McCAFFREY 447-8906 t� IIIJJJ - JAMES G.HYLAND 6 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OCT 18 IV= O ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEYSOUTHOLDi October 14, 1.988 PLANNING TOWN .,..; PLANNING BOAR Town of Southold 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Bennett Orlowski, Planning Board Chairman RE: NORRIS ESTATES Dear Chairman Orlowski: It is our understanding that as a condition precedent, the Suffolk County Department of Health Services will not act upon their Board of Review decision with respect to any variance application until the SEQR process is completed by the Town. Very truly yours, EL,LETREAU & PELLETREAU C "nJrt H: j1m cc: **See Attached Rider** IU(66) PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider October 14, 1988 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon. Ellen. Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of .the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher. McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young 1U/67 ,ram ay 7, Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 4., TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD October 18, 1988 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Norris Estates SCTM *1000-122-5-4. Dear Mr. Raynor: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, October 17, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board deem the. Draft Environmental Impact Statement complete upon receipt of all information bound into one document. The thirty day comment period will start upon receipt of the above. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Very truly yours, BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. w CHAIRMAN cc: David Emilita John J. Hart, Att. Judith Terry, Town Clerk jt MEMORANDUM TO: Planning Board FROM: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner RE: Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Norris Estates. DATE: October 17, 1988 Pursuant to your request at the October 3rd meeting, the applicant has submitted additional information. The JAC Planning Corp answered the concerns other than water. The H2M Group responded to the water concerns by providing two things: a copy of the water supply easement over the adjoining parcel which is otherwise not a part of the development proposal; and a discussion of the reverse osmosis system which the appli- cant is willing to install, should he need to. Dave Emilita has recommended the acceptance of these additional pieces of information upon the binding of these additional pages into one document. I refer you to his memorandum of Ocotber 17, 1988. 0 I S41 SZEPATOWSKE ASSOGIATES INC. FNIARGNMEKTAL CONSULTANTS Zvi M100RANDI; 7 0 z TO: Southold To"in Planning Board FROM. David J_S. it, sz--patowski Associates, Inc. LR op RE: Draft EIS - Carrf*anal/Norris Rstate Development (rI (Addendum and Additional Information) kill DATB: 17 Occtober 1988 N We have received several pieces of information from JAC Plams ng � Corporation {October 7th and Rath} and from B2M Group [October � 7th, ldth, and 12th) on tie above captioned RIS. These have D been transmitted directly to us in response to our Memo of 12 I September and to also address the Concerns of Valerie Scoraz. � Upon review of the items cited above against the comments made in our Memo of 12 September, we fiAd that the points in that t Memo have beer, responded to and when assembled, and Incorporated w 'between two covers", the two volume DBIS can be deemed complete and adevuate to review under SEAR. We make this finding in � order for the Board to make a response to the applicant at the Planninc Board Meeting today. Due to the presently onattacted U) pieces of supplementary information, the DEIS is not *Complete' 0 aS of today's date, but could be deemed ao when received as a 0 formally bound document.. To deem the document complete today would start the review clock prematurely and invite contusion among the involved agencies, and chaos among the public parties trying to review mbaz admittedly is already a complicated project. !-I As always we will wish to cake substantive comments on the DAIS i when you have finally declared it to be complete. Y Ijf 23 HarraganseY Fore. Iarc.estoi.m,R102S35 I4O(o d23-043o :t. ' I 0 i S41 I SUPATOWSKE ASSOCIATES INC. ENMROttiMENTAL CONSULTANTS ~ MEMORANDU 1 � j 0 7 To: Southold ; uvn Planning Board F+ FROM. David J.S. a, Szepatowski -Associates, Inc. 1 .. RE: Draft EIS - CarrAoCanat/Norris Estate Development � i (Addendum and Additional Information) DATE: 17 October 1989 N We have received several pieces of infOfMatiOn grog JAC Planning M Corporation (October 7th and Iltb} and fLam B2m Group (October 7th, 18th, and 12th) on the above captioned EIS. These have 1`+ peen transmitted directly to us in responses to our memo of 12 ..) September and to also address the concerns of Valerie 5copoz. 0 Upon review of the items cited above agair_st the comments made z in our Memo of 12 September, we find that the points in that if) Memo have been. responded to and when assembled, and .incorporated H "between two covers, the two volume DEIS can be deemed complete and adeRuate to review under SEAR. We make this finding i:1 � ordez for the Board to make a response to the applicant at the Planninc Board Meeting today. Due to the presently unattached pieces of supplenentaiy information, the DEIS is not 'complete' aS of today's date, but could be deemed ac wben received as a V formally bound document. To deem the document complete today would start the review clock prematurely and invite confusion 0 among the involved agencies, and chaos among the public parties trying to review what admittedly is already a complicated project. H As always we will wish to make substantive co=ents on the LEIS i when you have finally declared it to be complete. ?.3 iJau ansea 06we. Iarc.tsr06W.R!02.S3S 14OIa s23.0430 h} P. O. Drawer A u� Jamesport, NY 11947 pLp70WN October 7, 1988 ING gOpRD Bennett Orlowski, Jr. , Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 RE: Carr/Wanat Dear Mr. Orlowski : Pursuant to my conversation with Melissa, I am forwarding separately the responses requested by your Board to Szepatowski Associates as well as tp your office. By routing these answers in this direction we hope to enable the Board to reach a satisfactory decision on the 17th with regard to the DEIS. After speaking with Mr. Emilita, he feels this is the fastest method for him to allow a review from his office to the Board. He has indicated this will be a verbal response from his office if the October 17 date is to be met. If you have any questions, please don' t hesitate to contact me. Sincerely, r ' enry Rayn :�._.J . HER:ml CC: Szepatowski Associates Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. Sol Niego J.A.C. Planning Holzmacher, Murrell and McLendon,. Walter Dunn, P. E. JAC PLANNING CORP. 8 Bond Street, Suite 300 Great Neck, NY 11021 • 516-487-4549 October 7 , 1938 OCT 1 11988 Dave Emilita FIANNIhG BO RD Szepatowsky Associates 23 Narragansett Avenue Jamestown, RI 02835 RE : DEIS Norris Estates/Wanat Development Dear Mr . Emilita: Enclosed is an Addendum to the DEIS that includes JAC Planning Corp. 's response to your comments contained in a i September 12 , 1988 memorandum from you to the Southold Planning Board. H2M is responding to your comments regarding water quality and supply issues under seperate cover . However, as. noted in the attached addendum, in response to -your comments regarding the Mitigation Section, we have enclosed H2M's schematic of the proposed water :supply systems for both sites . We hope that these responses clarify the issues you raised. If we could be of further assistance in your review of this document don ' t hesitate to call . Very truly yours, JAC PLANNING CORP . Jean A. Celender; President JAC : bj cc : - v'!�outhold Planning Board (without Ii2M' s schematic) Dick Carr Jack Hart , Esq. Sol. Niego Sam McLendon Henry Raynor OCT ADDENDUM TO THE DRAFT EN PLANNING BOARD VAR®NME�OITAL .:. _ IMPACT STATEMENT NORRIS ESTATES DEVELOPMENT NEW Suffolk AVENUE MATTITUck, NEW Ybnk JAC PLANNING CORP. Prepared for Southold Town Planning Board t ADDENDUM TO THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT NORRIS ESTATES RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEW SUFFOLK AVENUE MATTITUCK, NEW YORK Location 28-acre site on south side of New Suffolk Avenue, east of Reeve/Camp Mineola Road, between Mar. r.atooka Lake and Peconic Bay in the Mattituck-Cutchogue #9 School District in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York Lead Agency Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall 53095 Main Road, P . O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 Applicant Shamrock Properties Corp. 350 Fifth Avenue, Room 1826 New York, New York 10118 Richard T. Carr , President ( 212 ) . 868-4777 Principal Preparer JAC Planning Corp . 8 Bond Street , Suite 300 Great Neck, New York 11021 Jean A. Celender, President (516) 487-4549 with. Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell , P . C. , water supply, wastewater and site engineers Dunn Engineering, P.. C . , traffic engineers Niego Associates, architects B .Laing Associates , ecology and permits Henry E . Raynor, Jr . , planning consultant John J. Hart , Esq. , Pelletreau and Pelletreau, attorney Young & Young, surveyors and site planners Archaeological Services Inc, . , Cultural Resources Survey Contact Person Southold Town Planning Board 53095 Main Road, P . O . Box 728 Southold, New York 3.1971 Secr . to Planning Board ( 516 ) 765-1938 Preparation Date : October, 1988 Acceptance Date : 1988 Deadline Date for Comments : 1988 INTRODUCTION Environmental Impart Statement (DETS) for the proposed construction of 108 condominium units on a 28-acre site south of New Suffolk Avenue, east of Reeve/Camp Mineola Road called "Norris Estates Residential Development" was prepared by JAC Planning Corp. This DEIS was submitted to the Southold Planning Board which on August 15 , 1988 sent the DEIS to David Emilita, Planning Consultant , for his review. This addendum to the DEIS has been prepared to respond to September 12 , 1988 comments received from David Emilita (Appendix A) . As in this memorandum, comments are keyed to page numbers in the DEIS . Responses to Comments Page 2 . 13 There are other approvals required (NYSDEC - LI Well Permit , Wetlands Permits , NYSDOS CZM Consistency Review) and the Suffolk County Planning Commission would also review the zone change. Response: The above is noted arid will be added to the list of approvals needed . Page 3 . 5 to 3 . 8 CPWS-24 has been superseded by the Suffolk County ater Resources Management Plan and the North Fork Comprehensive Water Supply Plan, and should not be utilized as a. primary information Source . The concept of water budget area and permissive sustained Yield must be updated with today' s data . The North Fork Water Supf)2y S tildy shows that most of the Norris site is outride of i:h.e water budget area . The text needs to be modified and detailed to include the two more recent reports . 1 Response: From H2M under seperate cover . Pages 3 . 7 and 3 . 11 Allusions to other data are made without specific citations or copies of the ether. data . (e . g. "other research" , second paragraph on p. 3 . 7 references to well logs , random samples of wells , etc. ) Conclusions are drawn without showing the data. Response: From H2M under seperate cover . Page 3 . 12 and 3 . 13 The discussion does not correlate with the tabular data. The easterly well appears to have the worst - water quality . The central well testing is incomplete. What are "aesthetic reasons"? What are " . . .a limited number of analysis from other studies in the area. . . "? A much more rigorous discussion of groundwater quality impacts is necessary. The discussion on pages 3 . 8 through 3 . 13 is totally unconvincing that there is sufficient water quantity that would cause no significant adverse impacts on groundwater in surrounding areas . Response: From H2M under seperate cover . Page 3 . 25 The discussion of the comprehensive plan should be brought up to date . The Southold Planning Board adopted an updated Master. Plan in December of 1985 and amended it .in August of 1987 . The Zoning Ordinance Amendments have been and continue to be identified as the "Master Plan" . This is a misnomer and .should be corrected for the dr,aft . Response : T ,92 1 ast parac rax�Yi�t pacge 3 -2 5 is changed to read: "An da tc=-d as t e-_ n�w s :do �d:17' n*D.e_ce mb e r o f 19.8.5 and amencfEd irAugus_t of 1987 . Zoning Ordinance D m f�.ndnte�l t s, v e]o- th. Lzr p.o_5.e-of-i.m.p l e.m e n t i n.g - OJ lthe Master P._l.an up-cl.ate,.were presented to the So,utholc,wn__Lio:_3rd�in�My, 1988 . Although previous PJ_anning-B-oar-d-Master Plan implementation recommen- da i-1- tbat the si�c�be designated two-acre residerii_- al_, A-80 , the zoning map-wh.i_c.h dEssi nztes the srLt,ject prnperty as HD or Hamlet Density R e s 2 Page 3 . 31 The discussion on water supply needs to be more detailed and maps of the salinity problem areas and Health Department waivers need to be shown. Response : From H2M under seperate cover . Page 4 . 2 The discussion on groundwater impacts needs to be rewritten entirely. The one paragraph conclusion presented can not be drawn from the earlier text statements . There needs to be a discussion on the groundwater quality recharged in the zones of concentration of all proposed well sites to begin to determine the long term viability of the wells . Response : It must be noted that al.1 of the groundwater and water use discussions included in the DEIS were - summarized from the "Water Supply and Wastewater Treatment Systems" prepared by the H2M Group and presented in Appendix B of Volume 2 of the DEIS . This should have been stated on Page 4 . 2 . The discussion in the DEIS was intentionally brief . For further discussion and support data the reader should refer to Appendix B . Page 4 . 15 The communication with the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Response: This letter was included in Appendix A in Volume 2 of this report (-)n page A. 7 and is included in the Appendix of this addendum for reference . In addition, also included in this Addendum is a September 6 , 1988 letter from the Mattituck Fire District regarding the Heather. Hills Subdivision. In this letter found in Appendix A, three wells were recommended : 1- On the Property Line between lots 6 and 7 2- On the Property Line between lots 23 and 24 3- On the South Side of the road opposite the Row between lots 36 and 37 These wells would be in addition to the hydrants installed with the prOpor>ed water system as long as there was a minimum 6" main. Page 4 . 16 Why was 70 gpd selected? 100 TO 110 is a normal planning figure. The location of the proposed well and distribution system needs to be shown. Response : From H2M under seperate cover . :,: 3 Page 4 . 18 to 4 . 21 Where is the recharge for the treatment plant? Where is it in relation to the well recharge zone? Response: From H2M under seperate cover. Pages 4 . 24 to 4 . 26 Surely a more accurate depiction of the municipal cost/benefit of multi-family developments can be found than a quote from the 1967 Comprehensive Plan. The impact on the school , fire, police systems should be detailed and verified with the local authorities. Response .- M The following cost/benefits for the proposed development have been calculated: 1 ) School District : The cost per student can be estimated at $5 , 300 per: ,a telephone conversation with Roger Burns; school superintendent , on December 8 , 1987 . Calculating 4 school age children generated by the proposed development (p. 4 . 16-DEIS) annual cost would be $21 , 200 as opposed to $427, 820 projected tax revenue contribution to the school district . 2 ) Fire District : According to the Town of Southold December 1 , 1986 - November. 30 , 1987 budget the Mattituck Fire District budget is $264 , 000 . The LILCO population estimate for Mattituck (p. 3 . 28--DEIS) is 4 , 270 . This figure gives a per capita fire district cost of $61 . 83 . Assuming a population inr;r. ease of 201. persons for the proposed Project as explained on page 4 . 13 of the DEIS , fire protection per capita costs woi.tld be increasod by $12 , 428 . When cnitipal ed. to projected tax revenues of $24 , 574 the proposed project would have a beneficial economic impact to the fire district . Pages 5 . 5 and 5 . 56 The proposed water treatment plant appear to impact on Wetlands B, C,. and D yet the text sates that there will be no impact . This appears "tb be contradictory. In terms of environmental impact, the water plant could be placed in a better location. 4 Response : From H2M under separate cover. . Page 5 . 57 to 5 . 58 The water analysis to justify the equipment proposed is not included in the text . Response: 1 This analysis is included in Appendix B, page B . 58 . Again the body of. the DEIS , as stated on Page 5 . 55 , was a summary of Appendix B . Page 5 . 8 & rear pocket Which plan is being advocated, Niego Assoicates or Yound and Young, for the Heather Hills site? Response: At this time, subject to regulatory review, the Niego <Assoc-i_a_tes—pLan—i,s the preferred plan. 74 Page 5 . 59 Evidence as to sufficiency of the storage and distribution systems from the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Response : This has been responded to previously in the discussion for Page 4 . 15 . Pages 6 . 1 to 6 . 6 The impacts need to be shown on the site plan. There is no coordination between the plan and the impacts cited nor are mitigation measures shown. Response : In order to clarify the mitigations discussed in Section 6 . 0 enclosed are : A. Two site maps which describe Aternatives 1 and 2 of the traffic mitigations . B. Three plans from H2M which show :,ewer-age and water systems siting for both the Norris and Wanat Parcels 1 . Sewerage & Water. System Siting (Norris) 2 . Floor. Plan and Well Details (Wanat) 3 . Plan IT. , Proposed' Water Layout (Gvr�.ria t ) Appendix B Reference is made to the rPWS - 24 which is outdated .information. This sho(ild be updated with current information, as stated in our second comment . Response : From H2M under separate cover . 5 APPENDIX A CORRESPONDENCE AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION A m AVE. W v SUFFOLK m . NE onstruct a Dedication 25-foot roadwa �- to south for 200 LM v feet Widen to 28- - feet to acces oadway • • rash Gate--- • . .• • . • Rough O grade for W emergency vehicle agce q„ only a r � Q � U Crash Gate---- , _ KRAUS RD;_ w c z Ji E I ALTERNATIVE 1 SITE MAP SCALE: 1'-500' A.1 �m m AVE. 74 1b. m o x 1 EW v SUFFOLK r*1 Dedication or De cation of .5 feet ro 200 feet sout 25 feet south w S•uffolk venue to c ss point for 50 feet. then • —' Dedication oil Reconstru t mp Mineola Road ,as' a 12.5 feet to 28-foot o way centered on .50-foot. access right o w Crash Gate Rough W Grade Z ' U Crash Gate--- KRAUS RD;_ c z Q) F ALTERNATIVE 2 J SITE MAP A.2 SCALE: 1`500' SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS lJ IS OIL SAO 0 1 6 1988 MEMORANDUM TOWN AWAKING BOARD. TO: Southold Town Planning Board FROM: David J.S. Emilita, Szepatowski Associates, Inc. RE: Draft EIS - Norris Estate -Development i DATE: 12 September 1988 Apparently without benefit of our memo of 22 July, a draft = DEIS was submitted to you on 12 August. Should you move to accept this DEIS, many flaws will have to be- corrected, in our opinion. Rather than delay the SEQR process further, we would advise accepting it for public review at this time. Our comments are keyed to the page numbers in the DEIS. Page 2.13 There are other approvals required (NYSDEC - LI Well Permit, Wetlands Permits, NYSDOS CZM Consistency Review) and the Suffolk County Planning Commission would also review the zone change. Page 3.5 to 3. 8 CPWS-24 has been superseded by the Suffolk County Water Resources Management Plan and the North Fork Comprehensive Water Supply Plan, and should not be utilized as a primary information source. The concept of water budget area and permissive sustained yield must be updated with today's data. The North Fork Water Supply Study shows that most of the Norris site is outside of the water budget area. The text needs to be modified and detailed to include the two more recent reports. Pages 3.7 and 3.11 Allusions to other data are made without specific citations or copies of the other data. (e. g. "other research" , second paragraph on p. 3.7 references to well logs, random samples of wells, etc. ) Conclusions are drawn without showing the data. A.3 23 Narragansett Ave. RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 Pages 3.12 and 3.13 The discussion does not correlate with the tabular data. The easterly well appears to have the worst water quality. The central well testing is incomplete. What are "aesthetic reasons"? What are " . . .a limited number of analysis from other studies in the area. . . "? A much more rigorous discussion of groundwater quality impacts is necessary. The discussion on pages 3. 8 through 3.13 is totally unconvincing that there is sufficient water quantity of a quality that would cause no significant adverse impacts on groundwater in surrounding areas. Page 3.25 The discussion of the comprehensive plan . should be. brought up 'to date. The Southold Planning Board adopted an updated Master Plan in December of 1985 and amended it in August of 1987. The Zoning Ordinance Amendments have been and continue to be identified as the "Master Plan". This is a misnomer and should be corrected for the draft. Page 3.31 The discussion on water supply needs to be more detailed and maps of the salinity problem areas and Health Department waivers need to be shown. Page 4.2 The discussion on groundwater impacts needs to be rewritten entirely. The one paragraph conclusion presented can not be drawn from the earlier text statements. There needs to be a discussion on the groundwater quality recharged in the zones of concentration of all proposed well sites to begin to determine the long term viability of the wells. Page 4.15 The communication with the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Page 4.16 Why was 70 gpd selected? 100 to 110 is a normal planning figure. The location of the proposed well and distribution system needs to be shown. Page 4.18 to 4.21 Where is the recharge for the treatment plant? Where is it in relation to the well recharge zone? Pages 4.24- to 4.26 Surely a more accurate depiction of the municipal cost/benefit of multi-family developments can be found than a quote from the 1967 Comprehensive Plan. The impact on the school, ' fire, police systems should be det=ailed and verified with .the local authorities. Ltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS �""�, A.4 Pages 5.5 and 5.56 The proposed water treatment plant appear to impact on Wetlands B, C, and D yet the text states that there will be no impact. This appears to be contradictory. In terms of environmental impact, the water plant could be placed in a better location. Page 5.57 to 5.58 The water analysis to justify the equipment proposed is not included in the text. Page 5. 8 & rear pocket Which plan is being advocated, Niego Associates or Young and Young, for the Heather Hills site? Page 5. 59 Evidence as to sufficiency of the storage and distribution systems from the Mattituck Fire _ - District needs to be shown. Pages 6.1 to 6. 6 The impacts need to be shown on the site plan. There is no coordination between the plan and the impacts cited nor are mitigation measures shown. Appendix B Reference is made to the CPWS - 24 which is outdated information. This should be updated with current information, as stated in our second comment. Ltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS ��� A.5 { Phone 298-883.3 y v MATTITUCK FIRE I TRI'u- MATTITUCK. LONG ISLAND. N. Y. 11952 1 i i , i i 1 September 6, 198 Mr. Henry E. Raynor Jr. PC Drawer A Jamesport, N.Y. 11947 i ie : r:eather floods Subdivision j Dear Henry: The Board of Fire Commissioners of the Mattituck Fire District have reviewed the Heather ;'oods Subdivision ?•;ap that you provided. The Board has taken into consideration the proposed water system 1 that you explained was bein.7 considered and with this in mind have placed three wells on the map and are as follows : 1 - On the Property Line between lots 6 and 2 - On the Propert? Line between lots 23 and 24 3 - On the South side of the road opposite the ROW between t lots 36 and 37. j 211s,12 —and would be in addition to the hydrants__in-stall-e-d�wit _ the oropos_e_d-wat.er syst.em pr_ovi`ded th-ioa—g- _yg-t.emQ ad a minimum of 6" main. If there is a decision made not _t_o install the water system, then an ddit be installed, minimum of three. Please contact the undersigned, or one of tbti- Commissioners if you need further information. i i Cordially, tattitucVVFir A. ogh, S ct. -jist. A.6 Phone 2DB-8833 MATTITUCK FIRE DISTRICT MATTITUCK. LONG ISLAND. N. Y. 11952 t November 12, 1986 Mr.' Richard Carr .,: c/o..Shamrock Properties Carp. -.:'.;::.::: .:.�50. Fifth Ave.. - Room 1826 _:: . . New York, N.Y. 10118 + `. Dear.Sir: !._..:.` After reviewing the proposed Norris Estates condominium project with'Mr. Henry: Raynor the Board o� Fire Commissioners of the Mattituck Fire District have only the recommendations put forth to Mr. Raynor regarding the five fire .wells, as noted on the map Mr. Raynor retains and the full paving to the West access and rough grading to the intersection of Kraus Road, to finalize this projectls fire protection. With these recommendations the Board considers this project well protected with the equipment on hand and the water access provided by the project. It would be appreciated if a revised co of the copy point project map be sent to the Board as soon as it is completed. Cordially, St Loll, rtha rfucFire ssard S t .k' Dist. A.7 Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, P.C. 0 Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, Inc. 0 112M Labs, Inc. Engineers,Architects, Planners, Scientists 575 Broad Hollow Road, Melville, N.Y. 11747-5076 (516) 756-8000 0 (201) 575-5400 FAX:516-694-4122 October 10, 1988 60T 1 ! 1985 Ms Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Reference: Norris Estates Wanat Dear Ms. Scopaz: We enclose a copy of the deed and easement from Norris to Richard Carr which s—summarized ai_sf follows: Parcel I is the main condo parcel which together with Parcel II constitute Parcel A with respect to the application pending. The water supply easement over part of Parcel B is described beginning in the middle of page 2 (after a description of Parcel II) . Schedule A elaborates on the easement terms. The area covered by the easement is for the full width of Parcel B starting about 334 feet south of New Suffolk Avenue and extending 800 feet southerly. The area is 10 acres. The terms of the easement appear to be complete, including construction, operation and maintenance of up to 4 wells and appurtenant facilities. With regard to the easement effect on density of development of parcel B, we presume a clustered development should be designed leaving at least the 10 acres as open space. This does not seem to present any problem. The location of the easement and the water and waste- water system facilities proposed are shown on the drawing. The test and monitoring well locations are also shown on the plan. We o—no-t- have the vertical profile of the test wells but to the best of our khbw-- - ge the formation was sandy all the way to about elevation - 50 when the confining clay was encountered. Melville,N.Y.0 Riverhead,N.Y.&Fairfield,NJ. GROUP Ms Valerie Scopaz October 10, 1988 Town Planner Page Two I also sent you a copy of the material and Mr. Emilita late on Friday. Another is enclosed in case the mails went astray. I also enclose a reverse osmosis optional water supply for Norris condos which Mr. Carr is willing to do if necessary. Also enclosed are 3 copies of the revised Norris Estates Condo Water & Service Plan and a possible revision to the Wanat (Heatherwood) water plant. We would appreciate a prompt and favorable response to the proposed project. If you need anything else, please advise. Very truly yours, HO ZMACHER, McLENDON & MURRELL, P.C. l S. McLen P.E. SCM:mo cc: R. Carr H. Raynor J. Hart, Esq. David Emilita J. Celender NORRIS ESTATE OPTIONAL WATER SUPPLY & TREATMENT SYSTEM The Developer/Owner has committed to an optional water supply and treatment system using reverse osmosis (RO) under two (2) conditions. (a) If it is required by the Town as a condition of ��fs -� ��. approval for the water supply for the 132 units Norris, or r3� _ (b) If it is determined at a future date that consumptive water use is greater than calculated and a reduction in fresh water with drawn from the project site is necessary. The optional water system would consist. of the following. Reverse osmosis has been a proven, even though expensive, technology for many years. Additional demands and research have resulted in improved membranes, including those better designed to convert saline water to fresh. The saline supply source is proposed to be two (2) 8" wells (WSA1 and WSA2 on site plan) approximately 250 feet deep with 8 inch casing and 6 inch diameter stainless steel screen 20 feet long. The proposed capacity, depending on -1- final design of reverse osmosis components, will approximate 300 gallons per minute such that a 150 g-p-m product will be available at a 50 percent rejection rate. The other 150 g_pm,,- as waste water, will be disposed of either by injection into the deep�qui_fei at 300 feet or by p�ina to or near Peconic Bay. Piping to the Bay would be more economical but will be subject to the availability of easements for pumping and dispersion system. Either method of disposal would be subject to a discharge permit (SPDES) by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation. The proposed deep wells for reject water injection would consist of two (2) 300 feet deep wells, 8" in diameter each with 40 feet of 6 inch screen. Under normal operation one well will be used for recharge, with twice the screen length as the supply well and with only one half the flow. When the. first well develops excessive back pressure due to clogging, the second will be placed in service. The first well would be then treated, restored to capacity and placed - in a standby mode. The standby wells and the injection wells would be constructed by cable tool method or by rotary -2- method with a cement grout seal between the drilled hole and the outside of the well casing to prevent any communication or hydraulic conductivity between the saline to brackish water below the clay and the reservoir of fresh water above the clay. A monitoring well will be installed just above the clay in the vicinity of each supply well and near each injection ell so that water levels and quality samples can be �ollected to show there is no negative effect on water level I t quality in the fresh aquifer. If easements can be obtained to direct the reverse osmosis reject to Peconic Bay, the simplest method of disposal would be through a pipe submerged at a bulkhead. If this is not available, it may be necessary to construct a dispersion pipe just below bay bottom. The quality of the wastewater would be less saline than the bay water, only twice that pumped from the brackish well . Multistage units, probably' 3 stage, with 6 module rated at 30 gpm product water each will provide 150 gpm normal plus one reserve 30 gpm unit. They will be designed for saline well water anticipating about 50% the concentration of sea water or some 10, 000 mgl of sodium carbide and 14, 000 mg01 total needs. -3- The brackish well water will be chemically treated to provide pH adjustment and scale control and then pass through a 5 micron mesh prefilter. High pressure pumps will deliver water to the membranes at about 800 .- 900 psi. The schematic diagram of the treatment plant is attached. Should higher solinities be experienced in the future, higher pressures would be required. A typical RO membrane is designed and constructed with- a production rating measured by flux of water through it - i.e. gal/day ft2. The flux of a membrane depends on membrane physical characteristics and system condition (.temperature, differential pressure across the -membrane and salt concentration) . The flux value will gradually decrease during the lifetime of a membrane due to a slow densification of the membrane structure, which results in a decrease in the membrane pore diameters. This gradual flux reduction occurs in all membranes and it is permanent, not reversible. The membrane must be replaced when the flux has reached a minimal acceptable value. The flux versus time duration will plot as a straight- line on log-log paper. The life span of a membrane may range from two months to two years, depending on flow and water conditions. -4- The most common membrane used is made of cellulose acetate. These membranes have low water permeability and can, reject over 99 percent of the salts. The water flux is very low. The main types of mounting hardware employed in reverse osmosis equipment modules are classified as 1 ) tubular, 2) hollow fiber and 3) spiral wound. The most common saltwater/brine membrane type are made in the spiral would fashion. In the spiral-would mounting, a porous hollow tube is spirally wrapped with a porous sheet for the feed flow, and a membrane sheet and a porous sheet for the product water flow to give a spiral sandwich type wrapping. The spiral module is encased in a pressure vessel , and the . feed flow through the porous sheet is in an axial direction to the porous tube. As the -feed flow passes through the porous sheet, a portion of the flow passes through the membrane into the porous sheet annular space for the product water. From there the product water flows spirally to the porous center tube and is discharged from the conduit in the tube. The brine is discharged from the down stream end of the porous sheet for the feed flow. -5- The modular RO system will have a production capacity Of 150 gpm (reject 150 gpm) for a daily maximum flow capacity of 216, 000 gallons (a sixth 30 gpm unit will be in reserve) . In this way the unit will . be able to produce the required 171 , 000 gpd of flow (0.9 gpm per dwelling unit) in roughly 19 . hours of operation with 5 of the 6 . modules in service. The units will be skid mounted for flexible installation. Thirty (30) gpm from each module will permit one of these units to be held in reserve in order to facilitate routine maintenance on one of the five operational units and will act as a spare should one operational unit break down. The flow through the units is divided into stages. Each , 30 gpm unit has 8 permeators which are staged 5-2-1 . In each module or unit the first stage has 60 gpm of raw water flow to it and the membranes allow 45 gpm to pass while rejecting 15 gpm. The second stage receives the 45 gpm and allows 35 gpm to pass while rejecting 10 gpm. The third stage allows 30 gpm of the 35 gpm to pass while rejecting 5 gpm. In each stage the product water has less and less total solids and the reject water has greater solids concentrations. Approximately 50 f -6- percent of the flow will pass the series of membranes and 50 percent will be rejected. Both inlet and outlet water will be equipped with a conductivity meter to indicate raw water total solids but with an arrangement to alternately test the reject water for increase in conductivity. The product water will be pH adjusted then chlorinated, using automatic chemical solution pumps to deliver caustic or soda ash and sodium hypochlorite to the demineralized 'water. After final treatment the water will flow to the storage tanks. -7- PRETREATMENT POST CHEMICAL ULTRA FILTRATION DESCALING TREATMENT UNITS TREATMENT ALKALI CHLORINE f REVERSE TWO PARALLEL OSMOSIS STORAGE TANKS • � : _ . . . .. UNIT , I PUMPS PUMPS Feor % �rtc.L S O O REJECT I R.O. WATER t. . =R o LVA -ro =tj4EC.Tiod WFLLs r- I oR TO DIFFUSERS IN BAY HYDROPNEUMATIC TANK BOOSTER PU PS TO DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM REVERSE OSMOSIS UNIT PLAN SCHEMATIC NOR 1.5 DEVELOPMENT 4jA7-7,-/7-0c K�. NEW YORK : lH2AGRf-N P ENGINEERS • ARCHITECtS • PLANNERS • SCIENTISTS MELVILLE. N.Y. RIVERHEAD, N.Y. FAIRFIELD, N.J. 7 y OCj P. O. Drawer A u Jamesport, NY 11947 p�T�WN October 7, 1988 Bennett Orlowski, Jr. , Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 RE: Carr/Wanat Dear Mc. Orlowski : Pursuant to my conversation with Melissa, I am forwarding separately the responses requested by your Board to Szepatowski Associates as well as to your office. By routing these answers in this direction we hope to enable the Board to reach a satisfactory decision on the 17th with regard to the DEIS. After speaking with Mr. Emilita, he feels this is the fastest method for him to allow a review from his office to the Board. He has indicated this will be a verbal response from his office if the October 17 date is to be met. If you have any questions, please don' t hesitate to contact me. Sincerely, enry Rayn , J . H- .ER: i1 CC: Szepatowski Associates Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. Sol Niego J.A.C. Planning Holzmacher, Murrell and McLendoni. Walter Dunn, P. E. JAC PLANNING CORP. i 8 Bond Street, Suite 300 Great Neck, NY 11021 • 516-487-4549 October 7 , 1938 OCT 0 i f SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD Dave Emilita Szepatowsky Associates 23 Narragansett Avenue Jamestown, RI 02835 RE : DEIS Norris Estates/Wanat Development Dear Mr . Emilita: Enclosed is an Addendum to the DEIS that includes JAC . Planning , Corp. 's response to your comments contained in a September 12 , 1988 memorandum from you to the Southold Planning Board. H2M is responding to your comments regarding water quality and supply issues under seperate cover . However, as. noted in the attached addendum, in response to 'your comments regarding the Mitigation Section_, we have enclosed H2M's schematic of the proposed water supply systems for both sites . We hope that these responses clarify the issues you raised. If we could be of further assistance in your review of. this document don' t hesitate to call . Very truly yours, JAC PLANNING CORP . Jean A. Celender, President JAC : bbj CC : ✓Southold Planning Board (without H2M' s schematic) Dick Carr Jack Hart , Esq. Sol. Niego Sam McLendon Henry Raynor i t r t I ` OCT ADDENDUM TO THE SOUTH OLDTOINN DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING BOARD IMPACT STATEMENT NORRIS ESTATES DEVELOPMENT NEW Suffolk AVENUE MATTITUd(, NEW Yorzk JAC PLANNING CORP. Prepared for Southold Town Planning Board ADDENDUM TO THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT NORRIS ESTATES RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEW SUFFOLK AVENUE MATTITUCK, NEW YORK Location 28-acre site on south side of New Suffolk Avenue, east of - . Reeve/Camp Mineola Road, between Mar. r.atook.a Lake and Peconic Bay in the Mattituck-Cutchogue #9 School District in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York Lead Agency Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall 53095 Main Road, P. O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 Applicant Shamrock Properties Corp. 350 Fifth Avenue, Room 1826 New York, New York 10118 Richard T. Carr, President ( 212 ) 868-4777 Principal Preparer JAC Planning Corp. 8 Bond Street , Suite 300 Great Neck, New York 11021 Jean A. Celender, President (516) 487-4549 with: Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell , P . C . , water supply, wastewater and site engineers Dunn Engineering, P. C. , traffic engineers Niego Associates, architects B.Laing Associates, ecology and permits Henry E . Raynor, Jr . , planning consultant John J. Hart , Esq. , Pelletreau and Pelletreau, attorney Young & Young, surveyors and site planners Archaeological Services Inc . , Cultural Resources Survey Contact Person Southold Town Planning Board 53095 Main Road, P . O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 Secr . to Planning Board ( 516) 765-1938 Preparation Date : October, 1988 Acceptance Date : 1988 Deadline Date for Comments : , 1988 ' I INTRODUCTION Environmental Impart Statement (DEIS) for the proposed construction of 108 condominium units on a 28-acre. site south of New Suffolk Avenue, east of Reeve/Camp Mineola Road called "Norris Estates Residential Development" was prepared by JAC Planning Corp. This DEIS was submitted to the Southold Planning. Board which on August 15 , 1988 sent the DEIS to David Emili.ta, Planning Consultant , for his review. This addendum to -the DEIS has been prepared to respond to September 12 , 1988 comments received from David Emilita (Appendix A) . As in this memorandum, comments are keyed to page numbers in the DEIS . Responses to Comments Page 2 . 13 There are other approvals required (NYSDEC - LI Well Permit , Wetlands Permits , NYSDOS CZM Consistency Review) and the Suffolk County Planning Commission would also review the zone change . Response : The above is noted and will be added to the list of approvals needed. Page 3 . 5 to 3 . 8 CPWS-24 has been superceded by the Suffolk County ater Resources Management Plan and the North .Fork Comprehensive Water Supply Plan, and should not be utilized as a primary information source . The concept of water budget area and permissive sustained yield must be iapd.ated with today's data. The North Fork Water Supply Study shows that most of the Norris site is outside of the water budget area . The text needs to be modified and detailed to include the two more recent reports . 1 Response: From H2M under seperate cover . Pages 3 . 7 .and 3 . 11 Allusions to other data are made without specific citations or copies of the other data . (e .g. "other research" , second paragraph on p. 3 . 7 references to well logs, random samples of wells , etc . ) Conclusions are drawn without showing the data. Response: From H2M under seperate cover . Page 3 . 12 and 3 . 13 The discussion does not correlate with the tabular data . The easterly well appears to have the worst water quality. The central well testing is incomplete . What are "aesthetic reasons"? What are " . . .a limited number of analysis from other studies in the area. . . "? A much more rigorous discussion of groundwater quality impacts is necessary. The discussion on pages 3 . 8 through 3 . 13 is totally unconvincing that there is sufficient water quantity that would cause no significant adverse impacts on groundwater in surrounding areas . Response: From H2M under seperate cover . Page 3 . 25 The discussion of the comprehensive plan should be brought up to date. The Southold Planning Board adopted an updated Master. Plan in December of 1985 and amended it .in August of 1987 . The Zoning Ordinance Amendments have been and continue to be identified as the "Master Plan" . This is a misnomer and should be corrected for the draft . Response : The last paragraph on page 3 . 25 is . changed to read: "An updated Master Plan was adopted in December of 1985 and amended in August of 1987 . Zoning Ordinance Amendments, developed for the purpose of implementing the Master Plan update , were presented to the Southold Town Board in May, 1988 . Although previous Planning Board Master Plan implementation recommen- dations suggested that the site be designated two-acre residential , or A-80, the zoning map which accompanied the zoning ordinance amendments designates the subject property as HD or Hamlet Density Residential District (;gee Figure 8) " . 2 Page 3 . 31 The discussion on water supply needs to be more detailed and maps of the salinity problem areas and Health Department waivers need to be shown. Response : From H2M under seperate cover . Page 4 . 2 The discussion on groundwater impacts needs to be rewritten entirely. The one paragraph conclusion presented can not be drawn from the earlier text statements . There needs to be a discussion on the groundwater quality recharged in the zones of concentration of all proposed well sites to begin to determine the long term viability of the wells . Response : It must be noted that all of the groundwater and water use discussions included in the DEIS were summarized from the "Water Supply and Wastewater Treatment Systems" prepared by the H2M Group and presented in Appendix B of Volume 2 of the DEIS . This should have been stated on Page 4 . 2 . The discussion in the DEIS was intentionally brief . For further discussion and support data the reader should refer to Appendix B . Page 4 . 15 The communication with the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Response: This letter was included in Appendix A in Volume 2 of this report on page A . 7 and is included in the Appendix of this addendum for reference. In addition, also included in this Addendum is a September 6, 1988 letter from the Mattituck Fire District regarding the Heather. Hills Subdivision. In this letter found in Appendix A, three wells were recommended: 1- On the Property Line between lots 6 and 7 2- On the Property Line. between lots 23 and 24 3- On the South Side of the road. opposite the Row between lots 36 and 37 These wells would be in addition to the hydrants installed with the proposed water system as long as there was a minimum 6" main. Page 4 . 16 Why was 70 gpd selected? 100 TO 110 is a normal planning figure . The location of the proposed well and distribution system needs to be shown. Response : From H2M tinder, seperate cover . 3 Page 4 . 18 to 4 . 21 Where is the recharge for the treatment plant? Where is it in relation to the well recharge zone? Response: From H2M under seperate cover . Pages 4 . 24 to 4 . 26 Surely a more accurate depiction of the municipal cost/benefit of multi-family developments can be found than a quote from the 1967 Comprehensive Plan. The impact on the school , fire, police systems should be detailed and verified with •the local authorities . Response : The following cost/benefits for the proposed development have been calculated: 1 ) School District : The cost per student can be estimated at $5 , 300 per a telephone conversation with Roger Burns, school superintendent , on December 8 , 1987 . Calculating 4 school age children generated by the proposed development (p. 4 . 16-DEIS) annual cost would be $21 , 200 as opposed to $427 , 820 projected tax revenue contribution to the school district . 2 ) Fire District : According to the Town of Southold December 1 , 1986 - November. 30 , 1987 budget the Mattituck Fire District budget is $264, 000 . The LILCO population estimate for Mattituck (p. 3 . 28--DEIS) is 4, 270. This figure gives a per capita fire district cost of $61 . 83 . Assuming a population increase of 201 persons for the proposed project as explained on page 4 .-13 of the DEIS , fire protection per capita costs would be increased by $12 , 428 . When compared to projected tax revenues of $24 , 574 the proposed project would have a beneficial economic impact to the fire district . Pages 5 . 5 and 5 . 56 The proposed water treatment plant appear to impact on Wetlands B, C, and D yet the text states that there will be no impact . This appears to be contradictory. In terms of environmental impact , the water plant could be placed in a better location. 4 Response : From H2M under separate cover . Page 5 . 57 to 5 . 58 The water analysis to justify the equipment proposed is not included in the text . Response: This analysis is included in Appendix B, page B. 58 . Again the body of the )LEIS , as stated on Page 5 . 55 , was a summary of Appendix B . Page 5 . 8 & rear pocket Which plan is being advocated, Niego Assoccates or Yound and Young, for the Heather Hills site? Response: At this time, subject to regulatory review, the Niego Associates plan is the preferred plan. Page 5 . 59 Evidence as to sufficiency of the storage and distribution systems from the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Response: This has been responded to previously in the discussion for Page 4 . 15 . Pages 6 . 1 to 6 . 6 The impacts need to be shown on the site plan. There is no coordination between the plan and the impacts cited nor are mitigation measures shown. Response : In order to clarify the mitigations discussed in Section 6 . 0 enclosed are : A. Two site maps which describe Aternatives 1 and 2 of the traffic mitigations . B. Three plans from H2M which show sewerage and water systems siting for both the Norris and Wanat Parcels 1 . Sewerage & Water System Siting (Norris) 2 . Floor. Plan and Well Details (Wariat) 3 . Plan II , Proposed Water Layout (Wanat) Appendix B Reference is made to the CPWS - 24 which is outdated information. This should be LYpdated with current information, as stated in our ;second comment . Response : From H2M under separate cover . 5 3 i APPENDIX A CORRESPONDENCE AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION U m AVE. t� SUFFOLK , NE . onstruct a Dedication 25-foot roadwa ~- �f Lu south for 200 Z feet W Widen to 28- feet to acces oadway rash Gate--- . . . �' Rough O grade for Z ~� emergency ' _.__. � vehicle agce only —C r � Q —' Crash Gate---- - _ KRAUS RDA_ c z • Q -J >> Jr E ALTERNATIVE 1 SITE MAP SCALE: 1'-500' A.1 AVE. 94 W v SUFFOLK -� Dedication of Dedication of .5 feet ro 200 feet sout 25 feet south w Suffolk venue to c ss point for 50 feet . •Ed then -' Dedication ofC Reconstru t mp Mineola Road as a 12.5 feet to 28-foot o way centered on 50-foot access right o w - Crash Gate-- J Rough � — Grade ? ; vu ••,•: CL no. L` �+ Crash Gate--- _ KRAUS RD. W Q O ✓/��E ALTERNATIVE 2 SITE MAP A.2 SCALE: 1'-500' ,mg SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS O v 1 6 1988 MEMORANDUM SOUTHOLD TOWN KING BOARD. TO: Southold Town Planning Board FROM: David J.S. Emilita, Szepatowski Associates, Inc. RE: Draft EIS - Norris Estate •Development DATE: 12 September 1988 Apparently without benefit of our memo of 22 July, a draft - DEIS was submitted to you on 12 August. Should you move to accept this DEIS, many flaws will have to be - corrected, in our opinion. Rather than delay the SEQR process further, we would advise accepting it for public review at this time. Our comments are keyed to the page numbers in the DEIS. Page 2 .13 There are other approvals required (NYSDEC - LI Well Permit, Wetlands Permits, NYSDOS CZM Consistency Review) and the Suffolk County Planning Commission would also review the zone change. Page 3.5 to 3. 8 CPWS-24 has been superseded by the Suffolk County Water Resources Management Plan and the North Fork Comprehensive Water Supply Plan, and should not be utilized as a primary information source. The concept of water budget area and permissive sustained yield must be updated with today' s data. The North Fork Water Supply Study shows that most of the Norris site is outside of the water budget area. The text needs to be modified and detailed to include the two more recent reports. Pages 3.7 and 3.11 Allusions to other data are made without specific citations or copies of the other data. (e.g. "other research", second paragraph on p. 3 .7 references to well logs, random samples of wells, etc. ) Conclusions are drawn without showing the data. A.3 23 Narragansett Ave. )arnu_,cmvii, RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 err.,r k h i➢4 . Pages 3.12 and 3.13 The discussion does not correlate with the tabular data. The easterly well appears to have the. worst water quality. The central well testing is incomplete. What are "aesthetic reasons"? What x` are ". . .a limited number of analysis from other studies in the area. . . "? A much more rigorous discussion of groundwater quality impacts is necessary. The discussion on pages 3. 8 through 3.13 is totally unconvincing that there is sufficient water quantity of a quality that would cause no significant adverse impacts on groundwater in surrounding areas. Page 3.25 The discussion of the comprehensive plan . should be. brought up to date. The Southold Planning Board adopted an updated Master Plan in December of :1985 and amended it in August of 1987. The Zoning Ordinance Amendments have been and continue to be identified as the "Master Plan". This is a misnomer and should be corrected for the draft. Page 3.31 The discussion on water supply needs to be more detailed and maps of the salinity problem areas and Health Department waivers need to be shown. Page 4.2 The discussion on groundwater impacts needs to be rewritten entirely. The one paragraph conclusion presented can not be drawn from the earlier text statements. There needs to be a discussion on the groundwater quality recharged in the zones of concentration of all proposed well sites to begin to determine the long term viability of the wells. Page 4.15 The communication with the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Page 4.16 Why was 70 gpd selected? 100 to 110 is a normal planning figure. The location of the proposed well and distribution system needs to be shown. Page 4.18 to 4.21 Where is the recharge for the treatment plant? Where is it in relation to the well recharge zone? Pages 4.24- to 4 .26 Surely a more accurate depiction of the municipal cost/benefit of multi-family developments can be found than a quote from the 1967 Comprehensive Plan. The impact on the school, fire, police systems should be detailed and verified with .the local authorities. SA, Ltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS S141 A.4 j Pages 5.5 and 5.56 The proposed water treatment plant appear to impact on Wetlands B, C, and D yet the text states that there will be no impact. This appears to be contradictory. In terms of environmental impact, the water plant could be placed in a better' location. Page 5.57 to 5.58 The -water analysis to justify the equipment proposed is not included in the text. Page 5. 8 & rear pocket Which plan is being advocated, Niego Associates or Young and Young, for the Heather Hills site? Page 5.59 Evidence as to sufficiency of the storage and distribution ,systems from the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Pages 6.1 to 6. 6 The impacts need to be shown on the site plan. There is no coordination between the plan and the. impacts cited nor are mitigation measures shown. Appendix B _ Reference is made to the CPWS - 24 which is outdated information. This should be updated with current information, as stated in our second. comment. Ltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS AI A.5 r { Phone 298-8833 LTTITUCK FIRE DISTRIC� MATTITUCK. LONG ISLAND. N. Y. 11952 1 September 61, 198: i Mr. Henry E. Raynor Jr. PC Drawer n Jamesport, N.Y. 11947 f. ie : Heather `floods Subdivision Dear Henry: 1 The Board of Eire Commissioners of the -.Kattituck Eire District have I reviewed the Heather Woods. Subdivision heap that you provided. J The Board has taken into consideration the proposed water system that you explained was being considered and with this in mind have placed three wells on the map and are as follows : 1 1 - On the ?roperty Line between lots 6 and 7 2 - Or. the Property Line between lots 23 and 24 3 - On the South side of the road opposite the HOW between lots 36 and 37, Wells 1 , 2, and 3 would be in addition to the hydrants installed with the proposed water system provided this system had a minimum of 6" main. j If there is a decision made not to install the water system, then an 1 additional number of wells should be installed_ , minimum of three. jPlease contact the undersigned, or one of the Commissioners if you need further information. I Cordially, oh Stattit�cVFir g ct. jJist.j A.6 Phone 298.8833 MATTITUCK FIRE DISTRICT MATTITUCK. LONG ISLAND. N. Y. 11952 November.'12,..•1986 Mr.' Richard Carr ..., C/o.Shamrock Properties Cgrp. ,5.0. Fifth Ave.. - Room. 1826 '' ..,. . :.:New York, N:Y. 1011.8 :Dear.Sir: -. After reviewin the proposed Norris Estates condominium . : � P P project with Mr .• • ...Henry'Raynor the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Mattituck Fire District have only the recommendations put forth to Mr. Raynor regarding the five fire .wells, as -,noted on the map Mr.. Raynor retains, and the full paving to the West access and rough grading to the intersection of Kraus Road, to finalize this project's fire protection. With these recommendations the Board considers this project well protected with the- equipment.on hand and the water access provided by the project. } •.; . It would be appreciated if a revised copy of the joint project map be sent to .the Board as soon as it is completed. i s '`` `.::`•;:,.. Cordially, eor Lessard Sr.k' ha 1 '= •.' '. tt uc File Dist. A.7 P � G OU Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, P.C. • Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, Inc. • H2M Labs, Inc. Engineers,Architects, Planners, Scientists 575 Broad Hollow Road, Melville, N.Y. 11747-5076 (516) 756-8000 0 (201) 575-5400 FAX:516-694-4122 T T October 10, 1988 Ms Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Reference: Norris Estates Wanat Dear Ms. Scopaz: We enclose a copy of the deed and easement from Norris to Richard Carr which is summarized as follows: Parcel I is the main condo parcel which together with Parcel II constitute Parcel A with respect to the application pending. The water supply easement over part of Parcel B is described beginning in the middle of page 2 (after a description of Parcel II) . Schedule A elaborates on the easement terms. The area covered by the easement is for the full width of Parcel B starting about 334 feet south of New Suffolk Avenue and extending 800 feet southerly. The area is 10 acres . The terms of the easement appear to be complete, including construction, operation and maintenance of up to 4 wells and appurtenant facilities. With regard to the easement effect on density of development of parcel B, we presume a clustered development should be designed leaving at least the 10 acres as open space. This does not seem to present any problem. The location of the easement and the water and waste- water system facilities proposed are shown on the drawing. The test and monitoring well locations are also shown on the plan. We do not have the vertical profile of the test wells but to the best of our knowledge the formation was sandy all the way to about elevation - 50 when the confining clay was encountered. Melville,N.Y.0 Riverhead,N.Y.•Fairfield,NJ. IIDMGROUP Ms Valerie Scopaz, October 10, 1988 Town Planner Page Two I also sent you a copy of the material and Mr. Emilita late on Friday. Another is enclosed in case the mails went astray. I also enclose a reverse osmosis optional water supply for Norris condos which Mr. Carr is willing to do if necessary. Also enclosed are 3 copies of the revised Norris Estates Condo Water & Service Plan and a possible revision to the Wanat (Heatherwood) water plant. We would appreciate a prompt and favorable response to the proposed project. If you need anything else, please advise. Very truly yours, kZHO7MACHER, McLENDON & MURRELL, P.C. McLen P.E. SCM:mo cc: R. Carr H. Raynor J. Hart, Esq. David Emilita J. Celender NORRIS ESTATE OPTIONAL WATER SUPPLY & TREATMENT SYSTEM The Developer/Owner has committed to an optional water supply and treatment system using reverse osmosis (RO) under two (2) conditions. (a) If it is required by the Town as a condition of approval for the water supply for the 132 units at Norris, or (b) If it is determined at a future date that consumptive water use is greater than calculated and a reduction in fresh water with drawn from the project site is necessary. The optional water system would consist of the following. Reverse osmosis has been a proven, even though expensive, technology for many years. Additional demands and research have resulted in improved membranes, including those better designed to convert saline water to fresh. The saline supply source is proposed to be two (2) 8" wells (WSA1 and WSA2 on site plan) approximately 250 feet deep with 8 inch casing and 6 inch diameter stainless steel screen 20 feet long. The proposed capacity, depending on !I -1- final design of reverse osmosis components, will approximate 300 gallons per minute such that a 150 g-p-m product will be available at a 50 percent rejection rate. The other 150 gpm, as waste water, will be disposed of either by injection into the deeper aquifer at 300 feet or by piping to or near Peconic Bay. Piping to the Bay would be more economical but will be subject to the availability of easements for pumping and dispersion system. Either method of disposal would be subject to a discharge permit (SPDES) by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation. The proposed deep wells for reject water injection would consist of two (2) 300 feet deep wells, 8" in diameter each with 40 feet of 6 inch screen. Under normal operation one well will be used for recharge, with twice the screen length as the supply well and with only one half the flow. When the, first well develops excessive back pressure due to clogging, the second will be placed in service. The first well would be then treated, restored to capacity and placed in a standby mode. The standby wells and the injection wells would be constructed by cable tool method or by rotary -2- I method with a cement grout seal between the drilled hole and the outside of the well casing to prevent any communication or hydraulic conductivity between the saline to brackish water below the clay and the reservoir of fresh water above the clay. A monitoring well will be installed just above the clay in the vicinity of each supply well and near each injection well so that water levels and quality samples can be collected to show there is no negative effect on water level or quality in the fresh aquifer. If easements can be obtained to direct the reverse osmosis reject to Peconic Bay, the simplest method of disposal would be through a pipe submerged at a bulkhead. If this is not available, it may be necessary to construct a dispersion pipe just below bay bottom. The quality of the wastewater would be less saline than the bay water, only twice that pumped from the brackish well . Multistage units, probably' 3 stage, with 6 module rated at 30 gpm product water each will provide 150 gpm normal plus one reserve 30 gpm unit. They will be designed for saline well water anticipating about 50% the concentration of sea water or some 10, 000 mgl of sodium carbide and 14, 000 mg®1 total needs. -3- The brackish well water will be chemically treated to provide pH adjustment and scale control and then pass through a 5 micron mesh prefilter. High pressure pumps will deliver water to the membranes at about 800 - 900 psi. The schematic diagram of the treatment plant is attached. Should higher solinities be experienced in the future, higher pressures would be required. A typical RO membrane is designed and constructed with a production rating measured by flux of water through it - i.e. gal/day ft2. The flux of a membrane depends on membrane physical characteristics and system condition (temperature, differential. pressure across the membrane and salt concentration) . The flux value will gradually decrease during the lifetime . of a membrane due to a slow densification of the membrane structure, which results in a decrease in the membrane pore diameters. This gradual flux reduction ;occurs in 'all membranes and it is permanent, not reversible. The membrane must be replaced when the flux has reached a minimal acceptable value. The flux versus time duration will plot as a straight line on log-log paper. The life span of a membrane may range from two months to two years, depending on flow and water conditions. 4 -4- The most common membrane used is made of cellulose acetate. These membranes have low water permeability and can. reject over 99 percent of the salts. The water flux is very low. The main types of mounting hardware employed in reverse osmosis equipment modules are classified as 1 ) tubular, 2) hollow fiber and 3) spiral wound. The most common saltwater/brine membrane type are made in the spiral would fashion. In the spiral-would mounting, a porous hollow tube is spirally wrapped with a porous sheet for the feed flow, and a membrane sheet and a porous sheet for the product water flow to give a spiral sandwich type wrapping. The spiral module is encased in a pressure vessel, and the feed flow through the porous sheet is in an axial direction to the porous tube. As the -feed flow passes through the porous sheet, a portion of the flow passes through the membrane into the porous sheet annular space for the product water. From there the product water flows spirally to the porous center tube and is discharged from the conduit in the tube. The brine is discharged from the down stream end of the porous sheet for the feed flow. -5- The modular RO system will have a production capacity of 150 gpm (reject 150 gpm) for a daily maximum flow capacity of 216, 000 gallons (a sixth 30 gpm unit will be in reserve) . In this way the unit will be able to produce the required 171 , 000 gpd of flow (0 .9 gpm per dwelling unit) in roughly 19 hours of operation with 5 of the 6 modules in service. The units will be skid mounted for flexible installation. Thirty (30) gpm from each module will permit -one of these units to be held in reserve in order to facilitate routine maintenance on one of the five operational units , and will act as a spare should one operational unit break down. The flow through the units is divided into stages. Each 30 gpm unit has 8 permeators which are staged 5-2-1 . In each module or unit the first stage has 60 gpm of raw water flow to it and the membranes allow 45 gpm to pass while rejecting 15 gpm. The second stage receives the 45 gpm and allows 35 gpm to pass while rejecting 10 gpm. The third stage allows 30 gpm of the 35 gpm to pass while rejecting 5 gpm. In each stage the product water has less and less total solids and the reject water has greater solids concentrations. Approximately 50 percent of the flow will pass the series of membranes and 50 percent will be rejected. Both inlet and outlet water will be equipped with a conductivity meter to indicate raw water total solids but with an arrangement to alternately test the reject water for increase in conductivity. The product water will be pH adjusted then chlorinated, using automatic chemical solution pumps to deliver caustic or soda ash and sodium hypochlorite to the demineralized water. After final treatment the water will flow to the storage tanks. -7- PRETREATMENT. POST CHEMICAL ULTRA FILTRATION DESCALING TREATMENT UNITS TREATMENT ALKALI CHLORINE REVERSE TWO PARALLEL OSMOSIS STORAGE TANKS UNIT PUMPS PUMPS ran tJ4U-S O O U `i REJECT R.O. WATER :` Z R o I . "r'0 =N.I EGT10 Al WELLS -- -- R CrnOVAL I ©lt I TO DIFFUSERS IN BAY HYDROPNEUMATIC TANK BOOSTER PU PS rT O TO DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM REVERSE OSMOSIS UNIT PLAN SCHEMATIC NoRR 1�5 DEVELOPMENT i4A-rT/7-0<,- K�. NEW YORK X lH2tv%(,.7_%ROUP ENGINEERS • ARCHIT' CtS • PLANNERS • SCIENTISTS MELVILLE. N.Y. RIVERHEAD. N.Y. FAIRFIELD. N.J. :23 PELLETRDr U Ord C�tiMT1f f 1A1 fait STAU AI N6W TOm IN" Or of the day of Cass February 1986 , before ate 4u dtie day at 19 .brt®se patso=lly tam R ' 'R TOSIM and Why c .t IAULS J. to I= known to be the individuals deseri'txd in and who to mt known to�� individual described in � � the foregoing ittstnu nmt. sad arledge�d that executed tfie same. cut' and adWowl they �auewed the same. awoW • 4' IVOT i+U8t1C VAlT OF FLORIDA MY COMMISSION EXPIRES OCT 17 1987 . �IyOEA Tt1►W CsEhIW1L WsURANa UNR y 'MOM OP � f STA" NEW Y01A COUNTY 00 STATI OF NOW TOM ie _before ate ®a tho day Of 19 ' hd m m on th-1 dry of •• oaw* : . .. With to I Wile,permmally b& by um duly mom did d sAd 127;i7aymy bra d q that be at awhom� '� tom • he the be kbowt-! Of mcp mnd why eked I Who .�.fost�t>� hu tsent, sal ,�� d aa►4 ' kegs the 'apt of aid • l. . � w ess, was P"mat sad slue to said �t is mch as a1 vrss to ;and drat wid Wilts ak aced m4elr ot.fife boxad b�+ h a thttre�o by idre at the sine tiate snbtxrfbad 6 tauaae tuba.• tuft, sod dot sia�d r� SI MON J�- r - BLOCK TrrU NO. LOT & lauJ• &mCUta]rs f COt KTV OR TOWN $ A. NORM deceased ac de - to CfItCi" TITta INSURANM 00UPANT a ;f Ream by am to Distributed by & pEligL�"L�1?�AIJ, 9f�. 20 sum - P.O.. BOX 110 ; y Pam, N� Z�p No, 31772 ♦ � �1 g d7 Y'k {`WYI.. _7 CI '88 14:I'D PELLETPEHLi r.E='::.�'1 --J''`•-�t�l r.c I PancVtor•b Ope -'-inq��mWl or Jr�.. ..t ,•ri• TIR3 ONLY U&narartl N.v.P.7,u. Pa+n8D10 � jTi1{� VOI& 1AM-TM ftsu MIM W>, -1 dSl0 by L,AW r ` T YOUR t,AwlfTi`t' � � mkde the �� day i F'ebru niutRea�r buadoed and eighty-six !� ft�DEIRV ; ASS JR, both residing at 12100 i�:1'VIPREN '1 ]�lU and IAUla J. � fib'. 6�r Avenue, Nor Miami, 33161, Ancillary Co- the tint wt11 sad teftmeat of as Ameaws A. NOWS, dosed, who died a resident of Dade Ccnmty, Florida, on 126MG center 31, 1985 and whose Will was admitted to probate by the Dude Coon ircudt Comt of Flccida as 1/3/86 and whose Will was adariatted to ancillary Probate bry the S=ogate a Court of the Comty of Suffolk on 1/21/8.6; { Martyof the firstpart end ! (dip, T. C' a residing at 444 East 86 Street, ijew York, NY 10023, i e f party of the second per, that the party of the first virtue of tfie and-sutllority given in sad by said last �'f(hl �"�, f"rt,b y wilt and tastamen% and in consideration of ------------------- --------------------------------- "lars, party of the -I. lawful amey of the United States, paid by the pa y SI GT second part, does hereby grant aad release unto the party of the second psrt, the heirs or sueeessors and f amigm of the party of the second part forever, MCHI coin plot,piece or pit of land, dtoatt, lying and bv4*od . at 14ittituck, Town of Southcold, County of Suffolk ar:d Stage of 6 Yack, .bo xzW and .4eecrihed as follows: BEM44MG at a 'point an the easterly y side of a twenty-five (25) foot right:- B f-way scmtlms I=wa as Reeve Avenue, distant thereon South 17° 41' 20" West 220.51 .000 eet tided tie corner formed by the intersectlan of the zoutharly side of New Suffolk Il s venue sad the easterly side of said rigbt-of-wy t f RMM TRM a1mg the easterly side of said remit-af--tpy the f®UmIng three . . (3) Pow ,jd.*di9tiA,,0", 9 r ( .. ...8duth 16•':71 `W' mist 550' 85 feet= (2) 'r 32' 0011 West, '519.57'feet; sand ,( . south T� '; 00`' West 667:65 feet lend-now orfa arly of - r r 1104CZ alai&, said Land, South 86 47 W Sast 809 45 feet: to other land now fo=erly of Norris t 32.000 ' ,R said laved tM followlig (2) courrses and disterms: (2)` North 79 31" 10"Test 423 feet '(2) =7'.•30`-' 20" East 1195-61 feet, sari or lass; to other.Lend Of Die A. lborris i . THE" ,said land.tie fo11 3nR foLw (4)• r,,ts and.distances: (1) _. bath 73° 38' 30" West: 121.88 feat; . (2) North 770 531 2(P" West 96.70 feet (3) +`Noarth^770 45'•'-30" West 91.78 feet t *0 :, (4) North 76° 27' 30" West 312.78 feet to the point or place of Br;C,'1NNZNG. IDQMzk'4iih . -+�cClwjve, right-ot-way .50 feet in width t'ttrnLing frame the ly side of New Suffolk Avenue southerly along lands formerly of George Brooks ry r ^.,.�teyed hereein� a total distance of 400 feet for ingress and greas an ond installati 'of ground utilit"I e4, which rtg}tt-of-wsy is =re particu- ly bounded..arid described as follows: BW1C'at a point an the• southerly side f New &:ffolk Avenue at a wnummt at the r=theasterly comer of Lid now of Norris,, sriawtly of Bro*,S& R NNIy+1(1 THOM the following two (2) courses and distances: (1) th 7 42' hest 224.34 feet; (2) South 7° 30' 20" West 175.66 feet; RLtWW Tim an easterly direction an a line Fawn perpendicular to the aforesaid course a istaw,a of 50 feet; R1•pIlVYNG THDM northerly along a line which is 50 feet easterly the first two courses above mentioned apprwdmately 420 feet to the southerly ide of New Suffallu Avenue a 'RMM.MM the southgrly side of OCT u7 '83e 1=1-20 PELLETRE4J ES-1 i'S.516-475-r651 C is i. �i SCHEDULE A ti SUBJECT TO the right of the party of the first part , their successors and assigns, to use , maintain and replace the existing well located near the northeast corner of the premises described A herein as Parcel. 1 and the pipes running from said well to the t residence located northerly of said well (Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-115-9-3) until such time as the party of the second part, his successors and assigns , connects said residence to the water supply system described in the aforesaid easement. 1 RESERVING to the party of the first part, their successors and assigns, a right-of-way for ingress and egress .and underground utilities over the roads now existing or hereafter constructed on the premises described herein and a right-of-way over Reeve Avenue, such right-of-way to continue notwithstanding the subdivision of the premises owned by the party of the first part, and reserving i to the party of the second part the right to relocate any of the roads now existing or hereafter constructed on the premises described herein. r ,r t ez 1, L i ij 1yy"t E 1' �PP• (4L4 f It 1 k; p1{ t e ts. a v k k Y t 0"' '88 14:20 PELLETREHU r.•4 Sui folk Avetae w, �roxu Ay S0 feet to the poinL �r p; of BaGMH0M. - ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land, situate, lying and being at ttituck, Town of Southold. County of Suffolk and State of New York, bounded and Jescribed as follows: BSA-3DR-UNG at .the northwesterly corner of the premises about to be described, point of begi=dng is distant South 86° 47' 40" East 300-00 feet as measured long the motherly side of a 20 foot right-of-way, 'from a ant located in the rerly side of a Private Road law-m as "Camp Mineola Road" also kacmn as Meow v ", 4Ach MXAMent is located- 1,9958.58 feet Orly 'as wAsured along tko terly side of the private Read k wm as "Camp Mineola Rm&' from the southerly side of New Suffolk Avenue; RU44ING Tim from said point or place of beginniang„ alaag, land now or formerly Norris, .the following tw (2) courses and distances: - (1) South 860 47' 40". East, 509.45 feet to a mocumt; and (2) South 7° 32' 10" East, 100.o0 feet to a mxii> t and.laond now or formerly f Maloney j. RLbfi1M TE�= al said last metbtl,J l=d And along land now or formerly ate Jagu�illaxd and along�d now or formerly of JoYaarrc•�a M. Sieg=, North 86. 34' 0 West, 509.00 feet to land now or formerly of l Loewe P. Rem; RLHT•0<1G 110= along said last mentioned land, North 8° 00' 20" West, 98.19 eet to land now or fcxmearly of Norris at the point or place of BEG'IEMM. TOG M§M with a right of ingress and egress to the party of the. second part, heirs and assigns, In, to aid d over a strip of land twenty (20) feet An width, erbW. facom the northwesterly camex of the above described premrLses in a westerly irectim along the southerly side of land now or formerly of Bruce A. Norris to easterly side of a Private Road, also lax&n as "Camp Mineola Road", also known as I"Reeve Aviavae". 11* northerly line of said right-of-way bears North 86° 47' 40" at and has a length of 300.00 feet; and the south line is parallel thereto. BEING AID) UMN= TO BE a portion of the same premises conveyed to Brune A. is by deed dated 9/23/83, recorded 9/30/83 in the Suffolk. County Clerk's Office Liber 9434, page 169. TOOL' with an easement mer other land of Norris as descar bed below in favor f the premises described herein for the party of the swm d part, his heirs, asors and asaig w, to drill, install and maintain a well and water supply stew and to lay, maintain and replace underground pipes and pump and to enter upon premises described below to do such other things as may be necessary to install vaix Wn. such,q tw, together with the aright to construct and use foer well ante within' die'easazent herein granted. The party of the first pert, for themselves,, it heirs, suceessace said assigns, agree that no cas,spODIS, septic' ta&so roar sew�xagpe eat�ment , cilities" #ay type shall be ccntructed or iastalled..within 4 awed f 200•)• foot radius of well points, exC.5pt those that cuan�cently'e�t. `fin the t it becomes nooeB Ease shep of the--second part or bis asai$ps to enter the prima dekcibed belm for purpose of.maintan pe soar repairing the 1. �d . 1 water .dys�, tw party of the rA part.. zees t0114060- awdy test •theArb pricac a Lion._ •'•The�wty 'ppam eshm } five '(5)-days notice of intent to enter the pprrewi,sea for the above purposes leas an requiring earlier entry upon the premises i6'hecessary. In the +ant that such water supply system is not installed within, five (5) years from the to hereon£,, dAs mot: shall be tarminated and sl>aU no logger be a burden upon pesos'&a&ibed below. The premWes a bjen to the aforesaid :easement is ackOxed as fold: SING at a point distant the follcxtijlg two (2) omzws distawxes from a tmaca tent on tbe south side ci Ikea Suffolk Ave nue at lbe t ly �f=Odor land of Norris, f ly'of &oo6j (I)' -Smh 7* 2' West 224.34 list, ('2) &m:th 7' 30' 2001 West: 110 feet i from mW point-of �;� the easterly bad•a)f theOre�ees ` a�y ed. above S .7• 20't: Week 800 fMtj i=fINC 'in'•an easterly di'.rec ough other land f Norris n a line PerPeto the aforesaid COLW" awxgacimately, 555 feet t .west ),y� of =laond of rr"'snd ,to lanJ now..;w ,food ZY of :dki tti.tuck; Base; HUNNM THM' in a northerly direction slang the westerly bc>vodary of Of Norris 800 feet; RUNNING IHL= in a westerly directi= agros ;land of ,Barris npz tely 535 feet to the point or place' of 1EGAKINd. k Saw= A =ACM Fi ETO F.OR AMI,TIONAL PROVIEICNS. 4 } u, ,T Of '88 14:c- PELLETREHU E'=,il'=, ,1r,-�!"'`-� ,51 F.• �, y TOGET �Ritb A Oht•title gad Wtcmt,if guy,of the parh' of the first part of, in and to any streets and '• raids abutting the ahoveAmn'bed p to the center lines thereof, ,ram ,tth the appw'cp>tznCet , and also 85 the estate which the said decedent had at the time of dtcedenes 6,th in aid primes,and Aw the estate therein,which the party of the first part has or has power o of, whetlticr individually, or by virtue of said wilt or otherwise, to eoavey or dittpose k To HAVE AM To HOLD the pytudaft bcteixt meted unto the party of the second part,(the heirs or sutxessors aatd asegns of the party of the second part forever. ;'4..� ..NOl .a?5.��, ��/ ��w+ivy.• •...'• , :.. ..•. • � :... .. '* �jt Ott at.tl�e p" of the first "d bu M daft Of stdfutd .. ' � :�•• '` ��'.�y ®r�stev�t,,ra�rt,its;a>lotqwd... . ...:... . of tb�ffsiittp"ss'!�"is!ACC•�t ire witb Sectim 13 of the I1M taw,envenants that the, Me first part vriri roctYvc thee�aldefatioes for this conveyance sad will held the right to receive such consideration v a trait iu W to be applied first f b.r the of payi99 tb; eat:of the impr�rc mast and w�! apsaty the to ihr P!Fxneut of 04 Qwt of the improvertmat'before Usbi tiny Paft of Vie.PDW of the,tutmae far sense of .tlds �y other purpo�. The wo8d vsty'" . be wed as if it read '°parties" wlu cr the ' mare a ► :.� .. -� •,- MN'WffNLU P,the",of tie Brit jpait bax dully►a4fttd tbb deed the cby and ym first Am 1, Ale Ale ry _:,, .r2MGR0UP Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, P.C. • Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, Inc. • 112M Labs, Inc. Engineers,Architects, Planners, Scientists 575 Broad Hollow Road, Melville, N.Y. 11747-5076 (516) 756-8000 0 (201) 575-5400 FAX:516-694-4122 October 10, 1988 Ms Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Reference: Norris Estates Wanat Dear Ms. Scopaz: We enclose a copy of the deed and easement from Norris to Richard Carr which is summarized as follows: Parcel I is the main condo parcel which together with Parcel 'II constitute Parcel A with respect to the application pending. The water supply easement over part of Parcel B is described beginning in the middle of page 2 (after a description of Parcel II) . Schedule A elaborates on the easement terms. The area covered by the easement is for the full width of Parcel B starting about 334 feet south of New Suffolk Avenue and extending 800 feet southerly. The area is 10 acres. The terms of the easement appear to be complete, including construction, operation and maintenance of up to 4 wells and appurtenant facilities. With regard to, the easement effect on density of development of parcel B, we presume a clustered development should be designed leaving at least the 10 acres as open space. This does not seem to present any problem.. The location of the easement . and the water and waste- water system facilities proposed are shown on the drawing. The test and monitoring well locations are also shown on the Plan. We do not have the vertical profile of the test wells but to the best of our knowledge the formation was sandy all the way to about elevation - 50 when the confining clay was encountered. Melville,N.Y.0 Riverhead,N.Y.0 Fairfield,NJ. -i GROUP Ms Valerie Scopaz October 10, 1988 Town Planner Page Two I also sent you a copy of the material and Mr. Emilita late On Friday. Another is enclosed in case the mails went astray. I also enclose a reverse osmosis optional water supply for Norris condos which Mr. Carr is willing to do if necessary. Also enclosed are 3 copies of the revised Norris Estates Condo Water & Service Plan and a possible revision to the Wanat (Heatherwood) water plant. We would appreciate a prompt and favorable response to the proposed project. If you need anything else, please advise. Very truly yours, *HOCHER, McLENDON & MURRELL, P.C. McLen P.E. SCM:mo cc: R. Carr H. Raynor J. Hart, Esq. David Emilit.a J. Celender NORRIS ESTATE OPTIONAL WATER SUPPLY a TREATMENT SYSTEM The Developer/Owner has committed to an optional water supply and treatment system using reverse osmosis (RO) under two (2) conditions. (a) If it is required by the Town as a condition of approval for the water supply. for the 132 units at Norris, or (b) If it is determined at a future date that consumptive water use is greater than calculated and a reduction in fresh water with drawn from the project site is necessary. The optional water system would consist of the following. Reverse osmosis has been a proven, even though expensive, technology for many years. Additional demands and research have resulted in improved membranes, including those better designed to convert saline water to fresh. The saline supply source is proposed to be two (2) 8" wells (WSA1 and WSA2 on site plan) approximately 250 feet deep with 8 inch casing and 6 inch diameter stainless steel screen 20 feet long. The proposed capacity, depending on I -1- final design of reverse osmosis components, will approximate 300 gallons per minute such that a 150 g-p-m product will be available at a 50 percent rejection rate. The other 150 gpm, as waste water, will be disposed of either by injection into the deeper aquifer at 300 feet or by piping to or near Peconic Bay. Piping to the Bay would be more economical but will be subject to the availability of easements for pumping and dispersion system. Either method of disposal would be subject to a discharge permit (SPDES) by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation. The proposed deep wells for reject water injection would consist of two (2) 300 feet deep wells, 8" in diameter each with 40 feet of 6 inch screen. Under normal operation one well will be used for recharge, with twice the screen length as the supply well and with only one half the flow. When the first well develops excessive back pressure due to clogging, the second will be placed in service. The first well would be then treated, restored to capacity and placed in a standby mode. The standby wells and the injection wells would be constructed by cable tool method or by rotary -2_ 1 method with a cement grout seal between the drilled hole and the, outside of the well casing to prevent any communication or hydraulic conductivity between the saline to brackish water below the clay and the reservoir of fresh water above the clay. A monitoring well will be installed just above the clay in the vicinity of each supply well and near each injection well so that water levels and quality samples can be collected to show there, is no negative effect on water level or quality in the fresh aquifer. If easements can be obtained to direct the reverse osmosis reject to Peconic Bay, the simplest method of disposal would be through a pipe submerged at a bulkhead. If this isnot available, it may be necessary to construct a dispersion pipe just below bay bottom. The quality of the wastewater would be less saline than the bay water, only twice that pumped from the brackish well . Multistage units, probably' 3 stage, with 6 module rated at 30 gpm product water each will provide 150 gpm normal plus one reserve 30 gpm unit. They will be designed for saline well water anticipating about 50% the concentration of sea water or some 10, 000 mgl of sodium carbide and 14, 000 mg®1 total needs. -3- The brackish well water will be chemically treated to provide pH adjustment and scale control and then pass through a 5 micron mesh prefilter. High pressure pumps will deliver water to the membranes at about 800 - 900 psi. The schematic diagram of the treatment plant is attached. Should higher solinities be experienced in the future, higher pressures would be required. A typical RO membrane is designed and constructed with a production rating measured by flux of water through it - i.e. gal/day ft2. The flux of a membrane depends on membrane physical characteristics and system condition (temperature, differential pressure across the membrane and salt concentration) . The flux. value will gradually decrease during the lifetime of a membrane due ' to a slow densification of the membrane structure, which results in a decrease in the membrane pore diameters. This gradual flux reduction occurs in all membranes and it is permanent, not reversible. The membrane must be replaced when the flux has reached a minimal acceptable value. The flux versus time duration will plot as a straight line on log-log paper. The life span of a membrane may range from two months to two years, depending on flow and water conditions. -4- The most common membrane used is made of cellulose acetate. These membranes have low water permeability and can reject over 99 percent of the salts. The water flux is very low. The main types of mounting hardware employed in reverse osmosis equipment modules are classified as 1 ) tubular, 2) hollow fiber and 3) spiral wound. The most common saltwater/brine membrane type are made in the spiral would fashion. In the spiral-would mounting, a porous hollow tube is spirally wrapped with 'a porous sheet for the feed flow, and a membrane sheet and a porous sheet for the product water flow to give a spiral sandwich type wrapping. The spiral module is encased in a pressure vessel , and the feed flow through the porous sheet is in an axial direction to the porous tube. As the feed flow passes through the porous sheet, a portion of the flow passes through the membrane into the porous sheet annular space for the product water. From there the product water flows spirally to the porous center tube and is discharged from the conduit in the tube. The brine is discharged from the down stream end of the porous sheet for the feed flow. -5- The modular RO system will have a production capacity of 150 gpm (reject 150 gpm) for a daily maximum flow capacity of 216, 000 gallons (a sixth 30 gpm unit will be in reserve) . In this way the unit will be able to produce the required 171 , 000 gpd of flow (0.9 gpm per dwelling unit) in roughly 19 hours of operation with 5 of the 6 modules in service. The units will be skid mounted for flexible installation. Thirty (30) gpm from each module will permit one of these units to be held in reserve in order to facilitate routine maintenance on one of the five operational units and will act as a spare should one operational unit break down. The flow through the units is divided into stages. Each 30 gpm unit has 8 permeators which are staged 5-2-1 . In each module or unit the first stage has 60 gpm of raw water flow to it and the membranes allow 45 gpm to pass while rejecting 15 gpm. The second stage receives the 45 gpm and allows 35 gpm to pass while rejecting 10 gpm. The third stage allows 30 gpm of the 35 gpm to pass while rejecting 5 gpm. In each stage the product water has less and less total solids and the reject water has greater solids concentrations. Approximately 50 -6- percent of the flow will pass the series of membranes and 50 percent will be rejected. Both inlet and outlet water will be equipped with a conductivity meter to indicate raw water total solids but with an arrangement to alternately test the reject water for increase in conductivity. The product water will be pH adjusted then chlorinated, using automatic chemical solution pumps to deliver caustic or soda ash and sodium hypochlorite to the demineralized -water. After final treatment the water will flow to the storage tanks. I ' t - I t PRETREATMENT POST CHEMICAL I ULTRA FILTRATION DESCALING TREATMENT UNITS TREATMENT ALKALI CHLORINE REVERSE TWO PARALLEL OSMOSIS UNIT STORAGE TANKS • PUMPS PUMPS iJtiu-s 0 0 REJECT R.O. WATER Z R o nJ I '�•p =N1 EC'T/OtI elf EL1.s R CrnoVAL ©R TO DIFFUSERS IN BAY HYDROPNEUMATIC 1 # TANK BOOS PS R 'TO DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM REVERSE OSMOSIS UNIT PLAN SCHEMATIC NOR 1.5 DEVELOPMENT 4IA? 7,-17- c K j, NEW YORK ,u - IH2AGROUP ENGLNEERS ARCHIT�R� ,5 EAD PY tR ANNERS SCIENTISTS ELD, N.J. OCT 07 PELLEiPEHu co �p�yp p� @� �y p� �y �p ' .Alal{i6fti] coum � W'LWx 7N'1 �A�■ !!C ��iA i V.a,` Vr t ` 04 the If 1l day of February 1986 , before me � tht day of 19 ,before a�;; prs�ally mm ROGER lM and . Y cam IAUIS J. .1�i. to me known to be the Mvid%W s descr�'bed 'a �d who 0o cnk known, to be the individual dcscribed in as>td who I "e+c:utcd tM foregoing instruasenk mM sdmawledged that "ecuttd tbo rqui� un nrnto and admowled ;exteuted the : y ataated tbt MY ',Td 0TxR4 KWC STATE OF FLORIDA MY COMMISSION EXPIRES OCT 17 1987 Y' NXO ThW QNPAL IKSURANa WrR VAU Q# NNW TOR& cool TY a �i< STA" OF H$W V*W t$pY1tT1P Af � C day of 19 , before me On the day of 19 bd.me me yWith me did sad . the slafa 4MAC wl to the orq e of y a �.. . - in �s ed t& fo �; _ �: R ka�ows the ' of aid scat armed ,described in � expwW ,the forcgoiV ` cl Whom, was pint and saw 1 0o s t is � eon toil: bat it was so tit las, sad �. Up cod Ada of,the board o diradar��►f s oo�rpots- swore t#�eci and dustd�' '_ tiaa. sr►d tW be agoW h I ra *tceW by 180 i zMW. at ib* mine tia� d � amume ss as P Y } d" 1 4.r M I�tttttt�x'�itcb swnow ✓Ma SU)CiL TMA NO. LOT Wilma COV?i_n OM TOWWL k M A• I3M, &ceasedto ppd"' "t TffU Y'�`U A`� UMye•�`� 03WANY T. Cm" "am by No to > r U&IM/lift!0 ftv m OW OF mu own= Distributed by PLUATREAU & PELMMAU, HU. Ito or>t '1t� 20 smm - P.O. L 110 w Pam. W 11772 aF'F9 - wIll I •�� �+ Ny✓ IE' u T 0 '88 14: 19 FELLETP RI 1 P.� Stanford N.Y.p.7.U. FOM8010 �, E,cncua' G•oou—ino aua a, m�•- „,. T MA ifltMlf� 0; 4lils , TM '"� 041MUMMI >a ` ;ie UTAC AY uwYpis ONLY /PIN day�Oi Febx�� .ni hundred day eighty-six a max . `~,#wi '1 �]Qand S J. .TR. , both residing at 12100 I .E. 16thAvenue, t�rnc Miami, 3 61, j t ' - E Amillary Co- the lad wnU and ted meat of as odors of A. NMM, dwcesased, wbo died a resident of Dade. County, Florida, on VEM center 31, 1985 and whose Will was admitted to probate by the Dade Coun Treat Court of Fkxida cn 1/3/86 and whose Will was admitted to sneil.lary pprro to by the S ogate's Court of the County of Suffolk on 1/21/86; arty of . £ixbt ppart. and RIICHARD,T R. residir4 at 444 East 86 Street. New York, NY 10023, i I party of the odd put. WY'1'pii E`ii ,that Fly of the first part,by virtue ei the power and,authority given in and by said last ! wiA and testament, and in consideration of k ---------------- •-------- -------------------- dollars, paid by the party of the - -- _ ;awful uwney► of the United Statrs,. 'S;zuCZ st:eond party data hereby grant ,sad relmu unto the party of the se=rd part, the hero or sueecssors On.4 saa,gr a of the peaty of the send part forever, T Cemin plat.piece or paml of land, ritQate, iviu sad be at &tti.t uck, Town of Southold, minty of Suffolk and State of Yo*, boksmW des.'ibed as folloM: T IECDWM at a point on the easterly side of a sty-five (25) foot right- X. f-way sowtimes � as Reeve Avenue, distant therm South 17° 41' 20" West 220.51 q00 eet frcam the corner fed by the interseoaon of the southerly side of New Suffolk t vexaue gad the eaa3texly side of said right-of-w®yt wsiR .T RIM TW a. the eAsterly side of sad right-of-wry the following three (3)300 eetet , d'di,et<tt 'ICi�l (11 `'South 160 =7' W' W of 550.85 feet i. (2) 7` 32' W' West, '519.57'�feett and 'tom satith r -'=•00" West' 667:65 feet t6 land-now oar,f®oc rly of LUX i 9IWkE alang said l.ar4q South 86o 471, 40„ East 809°45 feet to other land tray formerly of Noxx'isl 51 000 _ 41ong sad land the folly tW (2) CaXW and distances: (l.) h 7° 31" 10"Vest 423 feet: '(2) North:7°'30` 2Q" t 1195:.61 feet, tie vc 1 a;' to other lend of S vca A. b3narris i T<� land•the'frs2 ns four 40- .disterifts . (1) 14orti 73' 38' 30" West 121.88 feet; (2) North 779 S3' 20" West 96.70 feeti (3),il,NoKth.W. 45V;-30" West 91.78 feet i &rd (4) North 76° 27' 30" West 312.78 feet to the point or place of BEGIMING. iath a . elusive right-of-way 50 feet in width. ruing i:rom. the ly aide of MW Suffolk Avenue southerly alang lands formerly of George Brooks a g 1 being cmveyed hereein, a total di.stm ve of 400 feet far ingress and gress snd installatian'of urjder&Totmd utilit ', 'ubich right-of-my is mare particu- ly .arid deacrIbed as follow a- BWIMM)at i point ears the' southerly side f New Saf folk Avenue at a monuamc at the rmtrewterly CO er of land now of Norris, a rly of t RUWM THM the following two (2) courses and distances: (1) 7 42' West 224.34 feet (2) &uth 7° 39' 20" West 175.66 feet; Ft IWW TIWXE an easterly direction on a line drawn perpendicular co the aforesaid course a istane,e of 50 feet.; Rt ING THENCE northerly along a line which is 50 feet easterly the first two courses above mentioned approximately 420 feet; to the southerly ifde of New 9&folk Avenwi :RING IMM =%j�q4 tbe. sout1grly side of - I U( '1 Y 14:ZU F LLLL I f�LHU tlt.-4',t-t�t," I H.3 _ I r P, SCHEDULE A K SUBJECT TO. the right of the party of the first part , their successors, and assigns, to use , maintain and replace the existing a r: well 1oeated' near the northeast corner of the premises described herein as Parcel 1 and the pipes running from said well to the residence located northerly of said well (Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000--115-9' 3) until such time as the party of the second f I: part, his successors and assigns, connects said residence to the water supply system described in the aforesaid easement. I RESERVING to the party of the first part , their successors and assigns, a right-of-way for ingress and egress .and underground r utilities over the roads now existing or hereafter constructed i; on the premises described herein and a right-of-way over Reeve Avenue , such right-of-way to continue notwithstanding the subdivision of the premises owned by the party of the first part, and reserving to the party of the second part the right to relocate any of f the roads now existing or hereafter constructed on the premises described herein. t I I f 1. f r I I . I [ Ui 3B 1-4:_0 FELLL7REHU r.4 &Iffolk Avetwie �., /roxi, � 4y 50 feet to the point or F � ,e of BEG'.QiY M. ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land, situate, lying and being at tticuck, Town of Southold, Cotnty of Suffolk and State of New York. bounded and described as follows: &i,,DaMqG at the northwesterly corner of the premises about to be described, point of begirating is distant South 86° 47' 40" East 300.00 feet as �aasured F7ide;of the northerly side of a 20 foot rig -of-way, from a monument Located #n the ly side of a Private Road lau m as "Camp Mineola Road" also known as Meevie ", which mamtuuent: is located• 1,.958.58 feet sauthnly 'as measured along the ly side of the Private Road as '"Cam Mi.n,eola Road' from'tbe southerly New Suffolk Avenue; Ruww T*= from said point: or place of begicuzirv4, along..land rww or formerly Norris, the following two (2) c c wcses and distances: (1) , South 860 47' 40". East, 509.45 feet to a ma+rtua mt; and (2) South 70 32' Jolt East, 100.00 feet to a met and land now or formerly f baloney; RBI 114G THEICE along said last motioned land and along land now or formerly Jaquillard and .elor�g land now or formerly of Johanna M. Siegnan, Borth 860 34" 0" West. 509.00 feet to, land now or f onaerly of Laux�ce P. Reeve; RtlEB�]7M TWjM sung said last mentioned land, Borth 8° 00' 20" Weat, 98.19 stet; to lard now or formerly of Norris at the point or place of BEGII�lM. TOMM with a right of ingress and egress to the party of the. second part, heirs and assigns, in, to over a strip of 1" testy (20) feet in width, frm the north esterly convex of the above described premises in a westerly irection along the southerly side of land now or formerly of Bruce A. Morris to easterly side of a Private Road, also knmm as "Camp Mineola Road", also known "Reeve Averoue". The northerly line of said right-of-way bears North 86° 47' 40" st and has a length of 300.00 feets and the south line is parallel thereto. BEING AND INIENDD TO BE a portio<. C 2—amp premises conveyed to Bruce A. is by deed dated 9/23/83, recorded 9/30/83 in the Suffolk Canty Clerk's Office Liber 9434, page 169. M'IM with an east over other land of Dorris as described below in fawn f .the premises described herein, for .the party of the second part, his heirs, cessors and assigns, to drill, install and mintain a well and water supply stela and to lay, maintain and replace vndergroand pipes and pump and to enter upon premises de&xibed below to do such other things as may be necessary to install maintain ouch.system, .together with the right to consr=t and use four well ints within' that'eaiisamiant herein granted. The party of the first part, for themselves._ it Beira, sixcleasars and assigns, agree that no casepools, septic. tanks, oar ts+ac ragge eat wwLt:.f acilitiea'of ady type shall be caantructed or installed vidiin $,.to Ynanr�ed 200)• foot ridiui of 46ch well points, -PC 't.hat �tly'apt38t: tt�e t it beowmes necsess�ry face :-the a et e seeexsd part a tie alai tw meter the pt on4es deKribed below fxrp pwose of.meiate►��e x"firing 0* . 1l iWA ra ter ,system, the party of the second part,Wass tro' �ra�t?ly� test lore �e lea wed pricac tiara.z '2b "party "'tom "par't rahM ' fivaa .(5): dey#." n►atiee of intent to enter the pprremd.sea fn r the above purposes less an emerSency regLiring earlier entry'upon tTae premises is 'necessarry. In the ant that guch water supply system is nit installed within five (5) years from the to hereof, this easamnt shall be terminated and shall. no lac�g�ar be a burden.upon sear'd�s6dbei be". The promises subject to ft a►f0resaid Wit: is fol.l atm t H=WMC at a point distant the follaat two (2) courses dish fraam a mxaxAt on .Lte south side of Nast &9folk flv+an w,at:the t exly wniW;of=Odu c lend of Norris, farmeely. of Bro*s I . 41), swth 2 West: 224.34 Wit; 12) •6 xmb 7® 30' 20" Vest 110• feet, from sa#d point-of • tt "Sts7rly •od the PrerA Ws ed..�baie Sci�tth .7• r' 2001: VIeer 800 feet{-W10M I' 'in•Bn easteily 'direcCion� Coin otlex.•land f N rria in a liter perpendiculAw to the aforesaid terse apprwdmately 555'feet t:� .westa�arly b� of -land a �-aW to land now pr foaranerly of t1ie�liatti.tuck Bases RLWM 'I'"_MWX in a northerly direction along the westerly boundary of of Norris 800 feet; RUNNING VENCE in a westerly directi,ac..a�ros�r laaod„a�.;$�xrris roxAmet;ely 535 feet to the point or place' of r .• 40wm A ATrACHED ME= FOP, AMITI,ONAL PROVISICOS. � Y. { j r ?CT 07 '88 14:c PELLETPEHi i E•-J'=f c516-4�` r TOGEMM Witb alt right,title lad interet►t,if say,of the party of the first part of, in and to any streets and i rids abuttittC the above-&Wrlobed ptaaises to the center lines thereof, C' TOC Wkb the apputter=ces, and also an the estate which the said decedent had at the time of decedents do& in seW premises,and also the estate therein, which the party of the first part has or has power to mvey or digwt of, whethtr indl dually, or by virtue of said will or otherwise, Ta HAVE AND To HOLD the 1 aft Mate granted unto the party of the wcoad part, the heirs or "f suecesson &tad asaigas of the party of the wood part forever. a• 1 • 1 M, • r AiN� t11N•Z�of$6 film"n >tbat. Pa�Y of the tint part bsa a0R dace of ff" is $gjjft • 1st als>tY �i• �:_. - , t t ebsripl9»e with Section 13 of the Ida t&w,a ovenaats that fhc per►of ibi first part wM receive the eomkUtation for this oosrveyaace MA WM bald the right to receive such consideration W s bud toW to be applied tutu fhr Ole PMPM Of"Y'M U Est.of the imprawe t lad Will apt► dse tt tt»i i4 u ,,py s Mf*'�am of the impr+�rarxat be ttsbdg my Put of Ott tio�l of the atne for `_ The Nord "pr' sun .. L m..a «.�. t.,�� ►�, -Mat of this UY Odw Matmed as as •. •....� a-- 8*'� .*IMAM?$the party, of&C AM]pas#t�s dt�r d�deed the di y and year&ryt stboate �� ` ...• . . J. Aff4eij Jr. A. �d n � k Ftt L) , Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823 TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD . July 13, 1989 � =1 �f'ttj Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Hall Southold, New York 11971 Gentlemen: Transmitted herewith is a certified resolution of the Southold Town Board whereby they propose, . on their own motion, to change the zone on the property owned by Richard Carr at New Suffolk Avenue and Camp Mineola Road, Mattituck, from Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District to Low y Residential R-40 District. Please prepare an official report defining the conditions described in said petition and determine the area so affected by your recommendation, and transmit the same to me. Thank you. Very truly yours, Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk Attachment cc: John J. Hart, Esq. I ca f QU°r�;�r Town Hall, 53095-Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823 TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS 1S TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JU.LY' 5, 1989: WHEREAS, the Town Board deems it in the public interest and in the promotion of the health, safety, morals or general welfare of the Town of Southold that certain premises at New Suffolk Avenue and Camp Mineola Road (also known as Reeve Avenue) , Mattituck, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000- 122-5-4, owned by Richard Carr, hereinafter more fully described, be rezoned from Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District to Low. Density Residential R-40 District; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Zoning Code of the Town of Southold, including the Zoning Map forming a part thereof, be amended by the Town Board on its own motion by changing from Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District to' Low Density Residential R-40 District, the following described premises: ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land, situate, lying and being in Mattituck, Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and .State of New York, bounded and described as follows : BEGINNING at a point on the easterly side of'a twenty-five (25) foot right-of-way sometimes known as Reeve Avenue, distant thereon South 17 degrees 41 minutes 20 seconds West 220.51 feet from the corner formed by the intersection of the southerly side of New Suffolk Avenue and the easterly side of said right-of-way; RUNNING THENCE along the east- erly side of said right-of-way the following three (3) courses and distances: (1) South 16 degrees 7 minutes 00 seconds West 550.85 feet; (2) South 7 degrees 32 minutes 00 seconds West 519,57 feet; and (3) South 7 degrees 7 minutes 00 seconds West 667.65 feet to land now or formerly of Reeve; THENCE along said land, North 86 degrees 47 minutes 40 seconds East 300. 00 feet; THENCE South 8 degrees 00 minutes 20 seconds East 98. 19 feet; THENCE North' 86 degrees 34 minutes 20 seconds West 509.00 feet to land now or formerly of Norris; THENCE along said land the following two (2) courses and distances: (1) North 7 degrees 31 minutes 10 seconds West 523 feet; (2) North 7 degrees 30 minutes 20 seconds East 1195.61 feet, more or less, to other land of Bruce A. Norris; THENCE along .said land the following four (4) courses and.distances: (1) North 73 degrees 38 minutes 30 seconds West 121.88 feet.; (2) North 77 degrees 53 minutes 20 seconds West 96.70 feet; (3) North 77 degees 45 minutes 30 seconds West 91 .78 feet; and (4) North 76 degrees 27 minutes 30 seconds West 312.78 feet to the point or place of BEGINNING. AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized and directed to transmit this Resolution to the Southold Town Planning Board and the Suffolk County Department of Planning all in accordance with the Code of. the Town of Southold and the Suffolk County Charter. udit T. Terry Southold Town Clerk July 10, 1989 I roZ� , T _ Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 9 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY "r FAX(516)765-1.823 TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERIC TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS 1S TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD. ON JULY 5, 1989: RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, State Environmental Quality Review Act, and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 617. 10, and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board, in conducting an uncoordinated review of this unlisted action, has determined that there will be no significant effect on the environment. Description of Action: Proposed change of zone, on the Town Board's own motion, on the parcel of land owned by Richard Carr, under tax map No. 1000-122-5-4, from Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District to Low Density Residential R-40 District. The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the environment because an Environmental Assessment Form has been submitted and reviewed and the Town Board has concluded that no significant adverse effect to the environment is likely to occur should the project be implemented as planned, inasmuch as the density allowed in the Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District is greater than the density allowed under the Low Density Residential R-40 District, therefore the change of zone will not have a detrimental effect on the environment, but rather will be an improvement thereon. Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk July 10, 1989 y� - y 9 • 1 LOCATION MAP SCALE I =600 ,. , NOVEMBER 14, 1988 The Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting on Monday, November 14, 1988 at 7: 30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold. PRESENT WERE: _. Bennett Orlowski,Jr. , Chairman Member William Mullen Member G. Ritchie Latham Member Richard G. Ward - Member Kenneth Edwards Town Planner Valerie Scopaz Assistant Planner Melissa Spiro Secretary Jill Thorp 7 : 30 Joint Planning Board/Town Board public hearing on Norris Estates/Carr./Wanat. Present for this hearing were: Supervisor Frank J. Murphy, Councilwoman Ruth Oliva, Councilwoman Jean Cochran, Councilwoman Ellen Larsen, Councilman George Penny, Councilman Ray Edwards, Town Attorney James Schondebare, Town Clerk Judith Terry, Environmental Consultant David Emilita, Diane Schultz. Mr. Orlowski: Good Evening. I would like to call this meeting to order. This is a little different tonight. You will see two boards sitting in front of you. That is the Town Board down below and the Planning Board up here. This is a joint Planning Board/Town Board public hearing on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the Norris Estates and the Carr/Wanat Change of Zone. The Norris Estate Project is a condominium project in Mattituck. The Carr/Wanat project is an alternate to the Norris Estates project. We decided to hold this hearing for comments on the Environmental Impact Statement together. We have proof . of publication in the Suffolk Times and also in. the Long Island Traveler/Watchman. Everything is in order for this hearing. I will start out in asking for any comments. Since there is lot here tonight, we will start on my. left. Is there Planni Boi 7 Page 2 • November 14, 1988 any comments from anybody over here. (to the left) ? SCTM #1000-122-5-4,1000-112-1-16. Ronnie Wacker: Is this on the first one? Norris Estates? Mr. Orlowski: Yes. Mrs. Wacker: My name ,is Ronnie Wacker and I am representing the North Fork Environmental Council. I would like to say that I feel that the Norris property has problems. Not only is it a plain uninteresting parcel without trees and the physical attraction, but the water is not much good. In fact it stinks. It contains a great deal of iron and sulfur. While this does not oppose a hazard to life, it does have a disagreeable oder. Presuming that there will be enough people willing to put up with the smell or agreeable to the use of filtration systems; pumping of the water for additional residents would cause severe water problems for those living in the immediate vicinity, . especially down in the Camp Mineola area. Many .of them already suffer salt water intrusion, according to the man who dug-the test wells on the Norris property. Pumping water for twenty five more houses would be brackish and foul smelling water for many more of the residents already in the area. Mr. Carr has applied for twenty four well permits from the County Health Department for the Norris Property. And for ninety four units on the Wanat property, where he hopes to use development rights from the Norris area. We question how he can transfer development rights he doesn't yet have. The Health Depar.tment: may not grant permission to go ahead with pumping which would adversely affect so many of his neighbors. We contend that the Town, in interest of the health of the citizens in the area should rezone this nonconforming parcel to two acres. Which it has been designated in the latest master plan, but since the Town has zoned the Norris property hamlet density, this has raised Mr. Carr's hopes of realizing a greater profit from the parcel then two acre zoning would allow him. We would like to suggest a compromise, that he be allowed to transfer the difference in the number of lots allowed in the two acre zoning and allowed in the one acre zoning. This may be about twelve lots. If he has twenty five there, half of that is twelve, twelve and a half, thirteen. Add them to the total number of lots allowed on the Wanat property. Another point we would like make is that, if Mr. Carr did develop the Norris property in hamlet density, which by law would allow him one hundred and thirty two units on twenty two acres; he would have to construct a central water and sewage treatment plant or bring in public water at tremendous expense. Now, in permitting him to transfer the development rights that he could use on the Norris property only if he spent a great deal of money, the Town in our thinking is making a present to Mr. Carr of the money he doesn' t have to spend for water treatment systems and thus permitting him to take those development rights to another property. He doesn' t have to spend this, so he could go over and use those development rights for Planning Bo, Page 3 • ember 14, 1988 the other property. Which nobody would, has said no to, so far. I wonder how much the Town is willing to give away. Perhaps, a happy compromise would be two acres zoning on the Norris property and add the twelve lots to the Wanat parcel. Another reason we find the Environmental Impact Study deficient, is its assessment of traffic. The project surveyors metered the road, according to the witnesses in the area, right in front of the property. They did not count the number of cars that turned right immediately before the Norris property into one of the largest marina' s on the North Fork, Strong' s Marina. Traffic would be extremely heavy for anyone traveling down that road to a new development. On both counts, we feel that the impact statement could be improved. The assessment of traffic and water. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Any ether comments from this side? Mr. Onufrak: Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen. I am Joseph Onufrak. I am an attorney representing CANDO, The Committee Against Norris Downzoning Organization. Which, you all know is a community group made up of individuals and other community groups, mostly neighborhood associations, which for almost fifteen years has been the leading opponent for condominiumization. For the record, I also happen to be a resident of the community. I live near the southwest portion of the Norris Estates. I will be very brief. I have had opportunities on behalf of CANDO to speak before this panel of public officials at the Master Plan hearings and at other meetings in the Town in the past, so I will be brief. The Town has, for a very long time, had a problem with respect to the Norris Estate site. There is a court decision that some thirteen or fourteen years old, which would argue for the right of the Town to rezone. Although that decision never indicated that the condominiums were an appropriate use of the property, never the less, it appears to the community group, CANDO, and to its constituents, that the proposal that Mr. Carr has offered in his Environmental Impact Statement for a yield transfer is an interesting and creative compromise, that we think this goes a long way in solving the community problems and the Towns problems. There is essentially three difficulties in consideration of this site for a long time. As Ronnie Wacker has indicated, there is a traffic problem. There is a water problem. There is essentially an Environmental problem. Generally a quality of life problem. We think that the compromises that are offered in Plan B, as it were in the Wanat and the Norris proposal, meet those objections. This is a compromise in the community point of view. We have long asked the Town to reconsider the concerns of the community based on what has happened in the neighboring community for nearly thirteen years, since the court discesion. We think that a dramatically lesser reduction of density will aid our water supply problems Plan tg I rd Page ` November 14 , 1988 considerably. Although they won' t conclude our problems. We think a dramatic reduction in housing in the area will go a long way in dealing with the traffic problems, which we continue to be plagued with. New Suffolk Avenue at Main Road is nightmare right now. Substantially greater density would add to that nightmare. We think the present proposal with plan B will go a long way in solving that. The Third point is a residential one. That is a review of the neighborhood. A trip into the community, will help you to realize that the community is a residential one of single family homes. Although that is not an absolute reason why condominiumization is inappropriate, nevertheless, the proposal goes a long way to maintaining the quality of life and the consistency of the community. My comments for the record are based on the assumption that' it is our understanding that the only issue that is being entertained today is the ability to transfer the density rights. If it is incorrect we would ask the Board to give the community group, this and other community groups, an opportunity to make a full presentation. -We won'.t bore you with that 'tonight, but we would like to 'make clear for the record. I have a letter that I have addressed to the Town Supervisor, the Planning Board Chairman and the members of the Council and the Planning Board that state that point of order for the record. We would appreciate if the Chair would correct us if that is not the understanding. That is, no entertainment tonight will be made of the discussion of the rights, the merits of condominiumization of the Norris Estate. It goes strictly to the question of the Plan B and whether it is appropriate to transfer rights to the Wanat Estates. Mr. Orlowski: We are addressing the Impact Statement right now. This is comments on the Impact Statement, whether there is an impact on the Environment. The Environmental Impact Statement, if you have reviewed it, you can make comment on that right now. Mr. Onufrak: I am afraid, if you wouldn't mind clarifying. I have made explicit point of statement, that I am not sure you are responsive to. Mr. Orlowski: Tonight we are dealing with the impact statement. O.K? Whether there exists an impact or not. So any comments should be addressing the Environmental Impact Statement. Not the project itself right now. Mr. Onufrak: Alright, that is understood. I will leave my comments as they are. Thank you very much. I have written, by mail today, a copy of this letter to the membership, of the Planning Board and the Town Council. Supervisor Murphy: Can you sign the letter please? Mr. Onufrak: The mailed copies are signed. Supervisor Murphy: I will give this to Judy Terry. Planning Bc" i Page 5 • _ember 14, 1988 Mr. Orlowski: Are there any other comments from this side? Mr. Sigman: My name is Ed Sigman. I live on the South side of the Norris Property. There is a line of four onefamily houses. I am speaking for all those people tonight. As you know I've had a lot to say in the past about this Norris problem. We probably wouldn' t be standing here tonight discussing it at all had we been able to get a fourth vote at the time we brought it before the Town Board. In reference of making it two acre zoning. Since we were not able to do that we feel that the change from ninety five condominiums coming down to twenty five condominiums if that' s what that property would be able support. We feel that it is a step in the right direction to solve the problem for the people living in that area. There is no doubt in our mind that if ninety five condominiums where built on those twenty seven acres that it would have to cause a problem for the people living in that area with their wells. Only four hundred to five hundred feet from the southwest corner of the Norris Property there is a well that was put in there a few years ago. That well will show more salt water today than it did three years ago when it was put in. So, our feeling was that if ninety five condominiums went in there it definitely would have to pull the salt water further from the bay than it has. We feel that at least we have a fighting chance with our wells if the Town were to support the twenty five houses or whatever it would hold on the Norris property. Thank You. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from this side? Hearing none any comments from the center section? Mr. Hart: Mr. Chairman, Mr. Supervisor, Gentlemen and Ladies. I am John Hart. I represent Mr. Carr. I am going to tell you that I think we have an opportunity here, today, to do something that would be in the best interest of the people of the Town of Southold. I think it is an opportunity that very rarely comes to a Town. Right now there are, under the zoning ordinances in the Town of Southold, a hundred and seventy three units that can be built on this property. I am talking about the property which is the Norris property and the Wanat property. What we propose, is to do something that is suggested by the Town and by the Planners in the Town. That is to reach a compromise. A compromise that would be in the best interest of the everybody in the Town. It would be in the best interest of the people who live near Camp Mineola Road and it Would be in the best interest everyone within the Town of Southold. That is to work out something that is unique. A new concept in the Town of Southold. Something that I think that your very able planners are conscious of and are supportive of. That is a new amalgam, so that we would have a combined unit of the both the Wanat and the Norris properties that would reduce from the one hundred and seventy three units as of right, at the moment. So as of the moment we have one hundred and thirty two units as of right. We go back to the Court determination, which determines that there are one hundred and thirty two units as of right on the Norris Plann Bc 3 Page November 14, 1988 property and the forty one units, as of right on the Wanat property. We propose that we shall reduce those by sixty six units. We suggest to you that this is a proposal that would give to the people on the Camp Mineola Road property twenty five units on twenty eight point two tenths units, approximately. And would give to the one hundred and seven units of the one hundred and seven acres on Wanat or one acre per unit. So that what we would have in total would be sixty six units less then is presently, legally allowable on those two units. We suggest to you that it is a proposal that makes a lot of sense both legally and environmentally. It is something can be looked at. We could weigh those. I think the Suffolk Times said that they weigh six pounds. I don't know if they are worth six pounds or ten pounds or twenty pounds. There has been an enormous amount of time spent. There has been an enormous amount of time .spent by the Developer, by your planners, and by everyone concerned with this. I would suggest to you that it is time to go ahead with it. And to make the change. of zone final, to go forward and to put an end to something that has gone on for, at the moment, almost twenty years. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments form the center section? Mrs. Simicich: Good Evening. My name is Katherine Simicich. I reside on. Supervisor Murphy: Cathy can you turn that down a little? Thank you. Mrs. Simicich: My husband and I reside on Bergen Avenue in Mattituck. We own forty five acres right now in vineyards. We were the original plaintiffs on this Norris business came up on Camp Mineola Road. We have moved to Bergen Avenue right now. We see this compromise coming our way. Our area is slated for a large development projected of three hundred homes or more in Aldrich Lane, Sound Avenue, Bergen Avenue, Cox Neck Road. Samples of the development: Thornton Smith project, Farmveu, Long Meadow Estates to name a few. All these developments are to be built on two acres or more. The Carr/Wanat project on Bergen Avenue proposes to build one hundred seven homes on one hundred seven acres. This project will build homes on less than an acre, which is three quarters of an acre. We oppose the down zoning of - this parcel. The Environment Impact is not conducive to the area -where two acre zoning restrictions exist. Our concern is if Carr/Wanat is' allowed to proceed with this development, future developments on large tracts of land in that area will demand the same considerations. We are not opposed to the present zoning regulations in our area of two acres. I have a few names on these letters that were signed I would like to present them to the Town Planning Board and we will come up with a. few more. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Any other comments from the center section? Planning Bo 1 Page 7. ' • "ember 14, 1988 Mr. Brady: Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of both Boards. My name is Warren Brady and I live on Sound to the west of this proposed development. I own five acres and also have a thirty five hundred foot by twenty five foot road going to Bergen Avenue, so Bergen Avenue has been my original address. In all _the testing they have done for water in their area along Bergen .Avenue, they have not gotten satisfactory water. I feel that if you set a precedent by allowing this downzoning on the Wanat property the other three to five acres in the area will insist on the same thing. I don' t think the Town of Southold is set up to handle the additional services required. To handle all these people, their garbage and the water problems. I feel the Board should give this serious, consideration before allowing this down zoning. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments for the center section? Mr. Hart: If I may answer Mr. Brady, of whom I 've known a long time. In sofaras Mr: Brady' s concerns are important, and they are very important, I would tell you that it is the obligation of the developer to provide you, Warren, with any kind of water that you are entitled to. So that there will be denigration of any rights that you have. There is no question that there will be sufficient water and there will be, from whatever source, because they, Suffolk County Water Authority, may require us to build a deep well and provide you with water. So that there will be no denigration of your rights whatsoever. I am certain working with the Town we will be able to provide whatever kinds of insurances you need. Mr. Brady: Thank you, Jack. However, I am not really concerned with water. I am concerned with the entire community and burdening of the community with the services required with the increase of the population. That is my concern. Mr. Orlowski: Alright, this comments for the Board not a question and answer session. Mr. Wood: I am John. Wood. I live on Old Jule Lane. That is west of the Norris property. Between Norris and James Creek. I just heard the lawyer for Mr. Carr say, that if the development affects my water, will he be. obligated to supply me with fresh water. Because right now I do have fresh water. People ' in my neighborhood are slowly going salt. If Mr. Carr builds up property and I think the regular zoning in the Town is two acres. I think you are putting twenty five on approximately twenty five acres. Will he be obligated to supply me with water if my water goes bad? Mr. Orlowski: That is question that this Board can' t answer and I don' t believe so. Mr. Wood: I just heard Mr. Carr say that he would supply this other gentlemen with water? Would he be obligated to supply me Plane g ird Page • November 14 , 1988 with water. Another dilemma I have, maybe a simile could explain it. I wear a size eight shoes. You give me a pair of shoes that are size five on my left foot. When I complain about it you say, take it ;off your left foot and but it on your right foot and now you feel better. It seems that we are transferring a problem in one neighborhood right to the other neighborhood. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from the center section? Mr. Zuldessy: My name is William Zuldessy. I live on Bergen Avenue. I am hearing one hundred and twenty seven condos and hundreds of acres. I only own a quarter acre with another quarter acre next to me. It took almost twenty seven years to realize the dream of a lifetime to get out here. I understand that you can't stop progress. In relation to what this other gentlemen was saying about shoes. I am six two and half, I go into a shoe store. I try on size eleven. But twelves feel so good, I buy size thirteen, which is my size. What I am trying to say, is time marches on and things will happen. But little guys like me and even Mr. Simicich will be drowned in. When I came here two years ago and really built a dream of a lifetime I ran into terrible water problems. I reiterate the same question this other gentlemen said. If I run into problems will the big guys take care of my water? Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from the center section? Hearing none, any comments from anyone on my right? Mr. Ansen: Good Evening. My name is Dean Ansen I am a Environmental Consultant for CANDO. I briefly- reviewed the Environmental report and I have several comments. I am going to follow up with written comments later, but my verbal comments are addressing two issues that have already been talked about tonight. Traffic and water supply. The traffic, there are two issues that I have with the Environmental Impact Statement. One is that under NEPA, National Environmental Policy Act, when you develop your base line in traffic you add in all your projects that are ahead of your project, then you add the existing condition to that. That is the base line in which you add the traffic of this project. .-That was not done. There are two projects that are ahead of this project. One is the Appel property and the other is the Kreh property. Both of those are housing developments with a total of thirteen units. Those should be added to existing traffic and then Mr. Carr' s added on top of that. Secondly, a number residents told me that during the traffic counting, when the meters were on the road, the hoses were not intact. That is they were not stretch across the road. So the counts were obviously not accurate. Other traffic engineers, when they take counts, will check their meters on at least a daily bases. My understanding is, for several days traffic meters were not counting cars. When the traffic projections were made, the existing Department of Transportation counts were used. These counts have been known to be in error up to twenty percent. Planning Bo 'i Page .'9 • 'Tember 14, 1988 With .regard to the water supply, I think what we are seeing here is, and I will clock this when I get the rest of the data, is that as the pumpage rate is increased by the current residents, the salt water is intruding further and further inland. What we do is we put the pump station for Mr. Carr' s property up in the northeast corner. I think we are going to see two things. One is, I think we are going to see further salt water intrusion. And- secondly, I think we are going to see an effect on Lake Marratooka. I think that will have a greater impact further north. These are my brief comments. I will follow up with more detail of written comments within the regulated comment period. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from this side? Mr. Cuddy: My name is Charles Cuddy. I am appear for myself at this point. I live nearby the 'Norris Property. I have a question . for the Board, in fact I have two questions. The first one is, when does the public comments end? That is when does the public comment period finished. Is there a day certain that that_. is on? Mr. Orlowski: It ends November the nineteenth, but we have a request from the New York State Coastal Management for a extension of time so that they can answer. This Board will probably extend it when we close this hearing. Mr. Cuddy: My second question is partly in form of a statement. I think it is laudable, if my understanding is correct and if it is not, my understanding is, and I think that Mr. Hart is suggesting this, that what is being done tonight is that these two Boards are considering the question of the transfer of development rights and the effect that the Environmental Impact Statement has upon that transfer. Not necessarily the entire merits, the condominium verses non-condominium. It is very important that there be an distinction that is made. The transfer of development rights, I think base upon what lawyers would call prima facie case, that is their Environmental Impact Statement convinces you that it is sufficient to go ahead and transfer these development rights because the water at that site is adequate. There are a number of people here, myself and others, that might take issue with that finding. If were made after full hearing, after a debate and so on. That is not what we are doing here tonight. At least, that is my understanding we are not doing that tonight. What I believe that is being done is that you are being asked to look at their statement and to decide, if on its face, if their statement is sufficient to cause that transfer. That is an important distinction. If that can be done, that is fine. If not, and if that is not what is really happening, you are saying this is the condominium project. This the transfer project. This' is the whole. thing rapped into one. I would request that there be additional time. Because there are a lot of people who have not understood that, including myself. I realize from your statement before, that Mr. Onufrak had asked you, what is being done. Maybe that is not Plan ig ] rd Page • November 14, 1988 clear. If that is not so, a number of people will, I am sure, offer opposition very different then what has been offered here tonight. I think that Mr. Hart is probably correct, that it is time to end fourteen years. I was there in December 1974, as other people were. Many of us would like to bring this to a conclusion. I am very hopeful that the point I am making is clear. That is, that we are just talking about the transfer of those development rights. Mr. Orlowski: The transfer is an alternate and addressed in the Impact Statement. From the Norris Impact Statement, which this Board is addressing. On the Norris project. The Town Board is here addressing the alternate, which is transferring the rights. Relieving one area and putting it into another area. So that is why we are here together. It appears, that I think the Board vote to extend it for another thirty ( 30) days, as requested by Coastal Management. Mr. Cuddy: If we could during that time, get further classification. Because, again it is important for those who have taken position for fourteen years. Opposed to the project. To know whether or not, in fact, we are talking about the marriage of the condominiums at that site or whether we are talking about the question, which is a refined question, of whether or not the water at this point is satisfactory based upon their reports. And if we can do that, that is fine. If you can get back to me and let me know. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Mr. Sigman: Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask that question in a different way. Because I don' t understand sometimes when lawyers talk what the answers 'are. I want to ask you a simple question. If you were to turn down the switch, would you be making a decision at the same time that says that Carr has the right to build the condominium on the Norris property. Or would get another public hearing if you turned it down? Will we get another public, where we can talk in reference to the condominium project? Mr. Schondebare: This is the SEQRA hearing on the whole total package condominiums and the alternate site of Wanat property. This is the SEQRA hearing on the Condominiums. As a proposed alternate plan, is the Carr/Wanat property. This is it. Now the Board finishes tonight. - Ends comment period. That is just the end of the SEQRA process. You would still have with regards to the change of zone a further hearing. We are just doing SEQRA now. The SEQRA process, on what we are having hear tonight is on the condos. It is on the water. It is the condos as an alternate plan. It is also Carr/Wanat. It is both. Mr. Sigman: Let me ask you, even simpler if I can. If you were to turn down the switch and we said nothing tonight about the situation of the water on the Norris property. Would that mean Planning ] rd Page i] g • _.ovember 14, 1988 you are accepting the thought that we are in favor of ninety five condominiums on the Norris Property? Mr. Schondebare: I don't know how I can answer that one. Mr. Sigman: I can't ask it any simpler. Mr. Schondebare: I think you made your point clear, here tonight. That you are in favor of alternate, that you call plan B not plan A. But we are doing the SEQRA on plan A and the alternate site B. Mr. Sigman: Look, everyone of you people up there know that when You went around to find out about making your master plan for the entire area you know that the people that did the investigating for you said that that area at the Norris property should be two acre zoning. There must be a damn good reason that they said it should be two acre zoning. Because the -water wouldn' t support ninety five condominiums. I said before tonight that I felt that coming along with a proposal of one acre lots over there would at least give us a fighting chance as far as our wells are concerned. I ' ll tell you right now, ninety five _ condominiums on that same twenty seven acres would never be able to have anything but trouble for our wells. If you have salt water coming in now with nothing being done with that property, not even being watered for farm land or anything. Where no water is being taken out of there and if houses are still getting salt water intrusion. Once you start to pull for ninety five condominiums at that point you got to suck more salt water in. We are saying, I don' t want to say we, I am saying for the People that I was talking for, that we would be willing to accept one acre zoning or one 'acre lots because of, at least, we feel maybe the salt water wouldn't come in in that fashion. But we know damn well with ninety five condominiums, with two and three bedrooms, the salt water has to come into that area. So I am saying that tonight because of the answer that you gave me. Since you are saying that we could wake up and find bulldozers working in the back on ninety five condominiums. If you turn down the switch. We don' t want to see any bulldozers. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. I am still on this side here (the right) . Are there any other comments from this side? Hearing none, are there any other comments? Mrs. Wacker: I just wanted to not exactly answer Ed Sigman. But it is my understanding that, according to the Environmental Impact Statement, that if the condominiums were to go in that there would have to be a central water system and sewage system. A public water system. I think that that is right. Isn' t it? Mr. Orlowski: Yes, it is. No further comments from the audience. Any comments from the members of the Town Board? Planni Bo,, l Page 1• November 14 , 1988 Mr. Brady: I would like to make another remark, if I may. One of the things that I have not heard discussed is that presently when you have vacant land every time it rains we are recharging the aquifer under that land. When you cover that land with houses and paved roads you reduce the amount of water that gets back into aquifer. So that magnifies this problem with water and salt water intrusion. We have not have serious droughts in recent years, but fifteen, twenty years ago the lake started to dry up in the area. We had a really serious drought. Now if that happens the Water Authority has to get the water from some were. They can't pull it out of the skies. I don't think we are going to have any desalinization plants set up. My concern is that we just can't handle real dense residential construction or any, type of construction that is going to be density area due to our water situation. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments. Mr. Onufrak: I would like both Council' s indulgement for just a moment. Again I am Joseph Onufrak. I am attorney for a very large community organization that represents in the vicinity of three hundred people. One of the major reasons that the master plan public hearing was so prolific with people, Ladies and Gentlemen, is because CANDO got them there. Before we go on I would like to speak to Mr. Hart, to who I made three public requests for a conversation. I would like a stipulation from Mr. Hart and Mr. Carr. Since the tone of the conversation that is involved tonight is inconsistent with discussions between the parties and Town officials. That in the event that the Board is not prepared to go forward with the transfer plan B. Which is what was proposed by the Town Board officials to us is the scope of this meeting. Then Mr. Hart and Mr. Carr would stipulate to another public hearing with respect to condominiumization of the Norris Estates. If that is not the case then I will ask for adjournment to bring in witnesses appropriate to the transaction, so that both Boards can be fully informed. We have been through this process now for a considerable period of time and there is little doubt that the reason asked by half a dozen people tonight is because., flatly and without question, the scope of the discussions today, even with respect to the minutes that have been handed' out, go to the appropriateness of the alternate plan B. A review of the Environmental Impact Statement calls for Mr. Hart and Mr. Carr to advise that B will be the discussion of issue, not A. Mr. Hart: There is no question, Mr. Onufrak, that what we are talking about is the alternative plan. Mr. Onufrak: Do you stipulate for the record, that in the event. . . Mr. Hart: Yes. No question on it. Mr. Onufrak: Could have that writing please. Planning Boa Page 13 • 1-amber 14 , 1988 Mr. Hart: Yes, question about that. Mr. Onufrak: Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Is there anybody else? Comments from the Town Board? Supervisor Murphy: Ruth? Mrs. Oliva: I just have a couple of questions that I really would like to have answered. On the Norris property I commend the idea of the transfer of development rights. But I wondered even on the Norris property with one acre zoning. You do not _have any test results as far as the quality of the water. I would really like to see more of a study done just to see if it could support, one acre zoning and not affect the wells surrounding that area. Are we going to be drawing salt water in all over the place down there? Because it is just a -insulated peninsula down there and other people have problems with water. I am wondering if it could support the one acre zoning on_ that. As far as the Carr/Wanat property is concerned. I notice that- the proposed wells, again there is no criteria in here as far as the quality of water on the Carr/Wanat property, which I would like to see. I also notice that the three wells proposed are really in between the ponds and the two wetlands. I wonder what effect that would have on both the wetlands and the pond. And what the zone of influence would be surrounding that whole area. I do have questions about releasing brine into the Long Island Sound, even though it is a minute quantity, per se will be diluted. But then again we could have other projects come along wanting to do the same thing. And again the Town does not have a basic water system that we can say, from the middle of the Island we can pump out to you. Do we want all these tiny little water systems with nobody knowing who is going to operate and manage if they are drawn to exact specification. I have questions about that. I also have a question as to your zone change is for multiple. That and the end result can lead to condominiums on half acre zoning with public water system. Is this going to be single and separate lots or condominiums? If it perceives to be condominiums. I would like to see a cost analysis as to the assessed valuation of between single lots and condominiums. Condominiums are assessed at a lower value then single family homes. That will be a detriment to our own tax rolls. Supervisor Murphy: George, any comment? Mr. Penny: No. Supervisor Murphy: Jean? Mrs. Cochran: No. Supervisor Murphy: Ellen? Plani g B -d Page • November 14, 1988 . Mrs. Larsen: The only comment that I would like to make is that, once again, when the public has the opportunity to speak on densities, high density areas, that traffic and water supply are raised again and again from the public in the neighboring areas. In regard to major subdivisions. Of course, the public is concerned with the lack of open space, the loss of scenic areas of the Town and the increase in suburbanization of the Town as consequence of this increased development. These are the considerations from the public that I would like addressed. Supervisor Murphy: Raymond? Mr. Edwards: Nothing Francis, thank you. Supervisor Murphy: Ben, it's all yours. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Emilita do you have any comments? Mr. Emilita: No. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Any questions from the Board? Mr. Mullen? Mr. Mullen: No. - Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Latham? Mr. Latham: No. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Ward? Mr. Ward: Just one comment. Is the fact that the Carr/Wanat property if actually is the "M" _zone with the restrictions on it per density. The "M" zone does give the Town a greater flexibility of clustering and doing less impact upon the overall property then going with a one acre or two acre zone. The overall impact in the surrounding .community could be substantially reduced by a cluster subdivision. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Edwards? Mr. Kenneth Edwards: No. Mr. Orlowski: Hearing no further comments from the Board. Would you consent to extending the comment period an additional thirty days? I ' ll ask the applicant. Mr. Carr? Mr. Carr: May I say a word? Mr. Orlowski: Yes. Mr. Carr: My name is Dick Carr. I am the applicant. This has been going on for the last three or four years and I realize the pressure on all the different groups. As a group and also the individuals that try to reach a compromise that fits everybody' s Planning Bo< Page 15 1__ g � ember 14 , 1988 goal. I am afraid I can not do all of those things. I am trying to achieve something that is sensible, is practical, is financial feasible, meets the criteria of as many people as I can satisfy. Obviously, even from tonight' s discussion we may be getting close but we are still not there. Every time the Town Board or the Planning has asked me to do something on a project I have developed in the Town of Southold, I 've complied with. I have accepted every request, I have accepted every suggestion we have put into our plan. You cough, we get pneumonia in terms of the processing and the amount of money involved. I adopted this solution because I thought it was a better solution. It would be a quicker solution. It would be better for everyone. Once' again I will accept a request for thirty day extension for more comments. I accept Mr. Onufrack' s request that public comment period is available, in fact, we are going to go ahead with the condominium program on Norris. But I also like to suggest that we developers also have some rights. It is our money. I bought these properties subject to what was legally permitted to be done. I realize everyone wants it to be done the way I want it to be done or what' s on the books to be done. There is going to be a point, I think, that the Town of Southold has to accept that we can' t keep accommodating inanimately. There is going to be groups of people, individuals, that do not like what we are purposing to do. The development is here. The wave is here. Moratoriums, postponements, delays are really not the answers. Guys like me have to be accommodated. We really want to accommodate you and of course the people you represent. So again I will accept your request. I will accept Mr. Onufrak' s request for another public hearing if in fact we can not come to an agreement on the alternative plan. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. As you all understand, you all have an additional thirty days, or will have, when the Board makes a motion to make comment to either Board on the Environmental Impact. That should extend it to the nineteenth of December. I will entertain that motion to the Board. Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded to extend it an additional thirty days from the nineteenth. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. I will declare this hearing closed and thank you for coming down. r PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHNJ.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 (1891-1943) FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE NEW YORK 11772 RICHARDA.SCHOENFELD , J.TIMOTHY SHEA (1950-1980) BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 KEVIN A.SEAMAN ROBERT H.PELLETREAU VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' FAX 516 475-5651 BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG OF COUNSEL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O DOUGLAS J.LEROSE BRIAN McCAFFREY - 447-8906 JAMES G.HYLAND t 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA t /� t O ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY OV j98 1 lj `6 � October 4, 1988 z SOUTHOLD TOWN P1RNNING BOARD Hon Bennett Orlowski, Jr . M t� Planning Board Chairman Town of Southold D ` � t 53095 Main Road , �.M� � Southold, New York .1971 RE: NORRIS ESTATES AND CARR/WANAT i`" , , S01iTSOLDBOARU Dear_ Chairman Orlowski: Please accept our thanks for the time given to our group at last evening ' s Planning Board meeting. As discussed, we shall return in two (2) weeks, October 17, 1988 , for a final determination. Very truly yours, TJ EA & PELLETREAU rt JFH: jlm cc : Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Jean W. Cochran Hon George L. Penny IV *see additional Rider_* 1.U(39) PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider October 4, 1988 James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young 3_U/23 1 MEMORANDUM TO: The Planning Board FROM: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner RE: Review of the Draft EIS for Norris Estates DATE: . October 3 , 1988 The draft environmental impact statement could be im- proved by the addition of the following information: 1. The dimensions of the watershed easement could be shown on the proposed site plan. 2. The terms of the watershed easement could be spelled out in the text. Appendix B. (page B. 25) discusses the presence of such a deed restriction, but does not include a copy for our review. Questions that should be answered by this section are: -What are the terms of the restriction? -Has the adjoining property owner agreed to the place- ment of this restriction on his land? -How will control over this easement area by maintained? -Will this easement area have any effect on the proposed density of the larger parcel? -Where will the wells be placed within the easement area? 3. A map showing the locations of all the test wells on both the Norris Property and the Wanat Property should be included in the Executive Summary and Appendix B to facilitate understanding of the text. The wells should be numbered, and the same numbering system used on both the map, the site plan and in the text.. 4. A diagram of the :groundwater hydrology on the Norris property would be- helpful, along with the profiles of the test hole borings. 1 ,1 MEMORANDUM TO: Planning Board FROM: Valerie 'Scopaz , Town Planner RE: Proposed draft Environmental Impact Statement for Norris Estates. DATE: October 3 , 1988 The Planning Board must determine whether to accept the proposed draft environmental impact statement as -complete for public review. It has on file a memorandum from Dave Erdilita which states the information that Emilita feels is missing from the document. The Board has two options. One is to accept the document as it is written, then request the additional information as part of a supplement which would be subject to public review also. The other is to request the provision of the data that Mr. Emilita refers to in his memoranda of July 22nd and September 12th, at this time, then have one public review period on the complete document. t- T S41 SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS D LS O SA 1 6 1988 MEMORANDUM SOUTHOLD TOWN ING BOARD T0: Southold Town Planning Board - FROM: David J.S. Emilita, Szepatowski Associates, Inc. RE: Draft EIS - Norris Estate Development DATE: 12 September 1988 Apparently without benefit of our memo of 22 July, a draft DEIS was submitted to you on 12 August. Should you move to accept this DEIS, many flaws will have to be corrected, in our opinion. Rather than delay the SEQR process further, we would advise accepting it for public review at this time. Our comments are keyed to the page numbers in the DEIS. Page 2.13 There are other approvals required (NYSDEC - LI Well Permit, Wetlands Permits, NYSDOS CZM Consistency Review) and the Suffolk County Planning Commission would also review the zone change. Page 3.5 to 3.8 CPWS-24 has been superseded by the Suffolk County Water Resources Management Plan and the North Fork Comprehensive Water Supply Plan, and should not be utilized as a primary information source. The concept of water budget area and permissive sustained yield must be updated with today's data. The North Fork Water Supply Study shows that most of the Norris site is outside of the water budget area. The text needs to be modified and detailed to include the two more recent reports. Pages 3.7 and 3.11 Allusions to other data are made without specific citations or copies of - the other data. (e.g. "other research", second paragraph on p. 3.7 references to well logs, random samples of wells, etc. ) Conclusions are drawn without showing the data. 23 Narragansett Ave. Jamestown, RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 .. •� ice.'.:.!► . � _ Pages 3.12 and 3.13 The discussion does not correlate with the tabular data. The easterly well appears to have the worst water quality. The central well testing is incomplete. What are "aesthetic reasons"? What are ". . .a limited number of analysis from other studies in the area. . . "? A much more rigorous discussion of groundwater quality impacts is necessary. The discussion on pages 3. 8 through 3.13 is totally unconvincing that there is sufficient water quantity of a quality that would cause no significant adverse impacts on groundwater in surrounding areas. Page 3.25 The discussion of the comprehensive plan should be brought up to date. The Southold Planning Board adopted an updated Master Plan in December of 1985 and amended it in August of 1987. The Zoning -- Ordinance Amendments have been and continue to be identified as the "Master Plan". This is a misnomer and should be corrected for the draft. Page 3.31 The discussion on water supply needs to be more detailed and maps of the salinity problem areas and Health Department waivers need to be shown. Page 4.2 The discussion on groundwater impacts needs to be rewritten entirely. The one paragraph conclusion presented can not be drawn from the earlier text statements. There needs to be a discussion on the groundwater quality recharged in the zones of concentration of all proposed well sites to begin to determine the long term viability of the wells. Page 4.15 The communication with the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Page 4.16 Why was 70 gpd selected? 100 to 110 is a normal planning figure. The location of the proposed well and distribution system needs to be shown. Page 4.18 to 4.21 Where is the recharge for the treatment plant? Where is it in relation to the well recharge zone? Pages 4.24- to 4.26 Surely a more accurate depiction of the municipal cost/benefit of multi-family developments can be found than a quote from the 1967 Comprehensive Plan. The impact on the school, fire, police systems should be detailed and verified with the local authorities. Ltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS. t S Pages 5.5 and 5.56 The proposed water treatment plant appear to impact on Wetlands B, C, and D yet the text states that there will be no impact. This appears to be contradictory. In terms of environmental impact, the water plant could be placed in a better location. Page 5.57 to 5.58 The water analysis to justify the equipment proposed is not included in the text. Page 5.8 & rear pocket Which plan is being advocated, Niego Associates or Young and Young, for the Heather Hills site? Page 5.59 Evidence as to sufficiency of the storage and distribution systems from the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Pages 6.1 to 6.6 The impacts need to be shown on the site plan. There is no coordination between the plan and the impacts cited nor are mitigation measures shown. Appendix B Reference is made to the CPWS - 24 which is outdated information. This should be updated with current information, as stated in our second comment. Ltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS r ` S41 SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS K v ' 6 1988 MEMORANDUM S4 :. TOWN NG BOARD TO: Southold Town Planning Board FROM: David J.S. Emilita, Szepatowski Associates, Inc. RE: Draft EIS - Norris Estate Development DATE: 12 September 1988 Apparently without benefit of our memo of 22 July, a draft DEIS was submitted to you on 12 August. Should you move to accept this DEIS, many flaws will have to be corrected, in our opinion. Rather than delay the SEQR process further, we would advise accepting it for public review at this time. Our comments are keyed to the page numbers in the DEIS. Page 2.13 There are other approvals required (NYSDEC - LI Well Permit, Wetlands Permits, NYSDOS CZM Consistency Review) and the Suffolk County Planning Commission would also review the zone change. Page 3.5 to 3.8 CPWS-24 has been superseded by the Suffolk County Water Resources Management Plan and the North Fork Comprehensive Water Supply Plan, and should not be utilized as a primary information source. The concept of water budget area and permissive sustained yield must be updated with today' s data. The North Fork Water Supply Study shows that most of the Norris site is outside of the water budget area. The text needs to be modified and detailed to include the two more recent reports. Pages 3.7 and 3.11 Allusions to other data are made without specific citations or copies of the other data. (e.g. "other research", second paragraph on p. 3.7 references to well logs, random samples of wells, etc. ) Conclusions are drawn without showing the data. 23 Narragansett Ave. Jamestown, RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 , Pages 3.12 and 3.13 The discussion does not correlate with the tabular data. The easterly well appears to have the worst water quality. The central well testing is incomplete. What are "aesthetic reasons"? What are ". . .a limited number of analysis from other studies in the area. . . "? A much more rigorous discussion of groundwater quality impacts is necessary. The discussion on pages 3.8 through 3.13 is totally unconvincing that there is sufficient water quantity of a quality that would cause no significant adverse impacts on groundwater in surrounding areas. Page 3.25 The discussion of the comprehensive plan should be brought up to date. The Southold Planning Board adopted an updated Master Plan in December of 1985 and amended it in August of 1987. The Zoning Ordinance Amendments have been and continue to be identified as the "Master Plan". This is a misnomer and should be corrected for the draft. Page 3.31 The discussion on water supply needs to be more detailed and maps of the salinity problem areas and Health Department waivers need to be shown. Page 4.2 The discussion on groundwater impacts needs to be rewritten entirely. The one paragraph conclusion presented can not be drawn from the earlier text statements. There needs to be a discussion on the groundwater quality recharged in the zones of concentration of all proposed well sites to begin to determine the long term viability of the wells. Page 4.15 The communication with the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Page 4.16 Why was 70 gpd selected? 100 to 110 is a normal planning figure. The location of the proposed well and distribution system needs to be shown. Page 4.18 to 4.21 Where is the recharge for the treatment plant? Where is it in relation to the well recharge zone? Pages 4.24- to 4.26 Surely a more accurate depiction of the municipal cost/benefit of multi-family developments can be found than a quote from the 1967 Comprehensive Plan. The impact on the school, fire, police systems should be detailed and verified with the local authorities. SA' Ltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS SAI Pages 5.5 and 5.56 The proposed water treatment plant appear to impact on Wetlands B, C, and D yet the text states that there will be no impact. This appears to be contradictory. In terms of environmental impact, the water plant could be placed in a better' location. Page 5.57 to 5.58 The water analysis to justify the equipment proposed is not included in the text. Page 5.8 & rear pocket Which plan is being advocated, Niego Associates or Young and Young, for the Heather Hills site? Page 5.59 Evidence as to sufficiency of the storage .and distribution systems from the Mattituck Fire District needs to be shown. Pages 6.1 to 6.6 The impacts need to be shown on the site plan. There is no coordination between the plan and the impacts cited nor are mitigation measures shown. Appendix B Reference is made to the CPWS - 24 which is outdated information. This should be updated with current information, as stated in our second comment. S411-td. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS M SEP 3 199a SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD September 12, 1988 To The Parties Listed On The Enclosed Distribution Sheet Re: Norris Estates Site, Mattituck, New York Gentlemen: I am an attorney, maintaining a home in Mattituck. I write as a member and as a representative of the Committee Against Norris Downzoning Organization ( "CANDO" ) , a community group comprised of hundreds of residents and numerous neighborhood associations of the New Suffolk Avenue, Lake Maratooka, Ole Jule Lane, and James Creek and Deep Hole Creek vicinities . CANDO's members have been concerned for many years with the zoning and development of the Norris Estates site at New Suffolk Avenue, in Mattituck. CANDO has learned that the owner of the Norris Estates, Richard Carr, or the corporation he controls, has filed a preliminary draft environmental impact statement ( "DEIS" ) with respect to the Norris Estates site. We understand further that he has offered alternative development proposals for the site in conjunction with a highly publicized plan to rezone- the Wanat site on Bergen Avenue in Mattituck. CANDO does not have complete details of the proposals at this date. We do not oppose the concept of the zoning rights transfer as we understand it through publicity in local newspapers . We are, however, aware that the Town has only a few weeks to review the DEIS, and we desire to remind the Town of certain community concerns . CANDO has consistently argued that the continuance of multiple-dwelling zoning on the Norris site is outmoded. The i position of hundreds of members of the Mattituck community was set forth at length in the 1987 Public Hearings on the Southhold Master Plan. Community representatives, buttressed by expert testimony, challenged much of the "preliminary data" Mr. Carr had made available to the Town in support of a condominium plan prior to the hearing. The challenges included the following, among others : evidence that Mr. Carr's traffic analysis ignored key flow patterns (e.g. , Main Road at New Suffolk Avenue) and the reality of seasonal traffic problems and increasing Strong' s marina traffic flow; evidence that the traffic analysis explained "favorable" traffic flow at intersections that in fact do not exist (near Lake Maratooka) ; - expert testimony on increasing salt-water intrusion throughout the entire peninsula rather than merely at the Bay shore area, as Mr. Carr has alleged (ironically, such intrusion included a well on the Norris site itself) . The analysis filed by Mr. Carr prior to the DEIS, and which probably represents the research which makes up the DEIS, has been and can be shown to be fatally flawed. CANDO hopes the Town and Planning Boards will remember these problems and other community challenges to Mr. Carr's analyses before the DEIS is accepted as complete. There is legitimate concern among our members that in the process of evaluating, and hopefully approving, the zoning rights transfer from the Norris site to the Bergen Avenue site, the Town should not make concessions to Mr. Carr which further the prospect of, or constitute approval of, any contingent plan for condominium development of the Norris Estates site. We are aware of the difficulty of the Town's task in resolving this protracted controversy. We ask you to continue to keep in focus the larger community interests as you permit Mr. Carr to complete the process to which he is due. To this end, we trust you will apprise the community of any actions contemplated in connection with Mr. Carr's interesting proposals, and afford us an opportunity to comment . Should any clarification of the community's position be helpful, please feel free to contact the undersigned (212-632- 3025 ) or Edward Siegmann of Mattituck, CANDO's principal spokesman ( 516-298-5114 ) . Very truly yours, i Jos h J. 01}tifrak A -2- DISTRIBUTION TO: Hon. Francis J. Murphy, Supervisor Hon. Jean W. Cochran Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. George L. Penny IV James Schondebare, Esq. , Town Attorney Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Richard Ward, Member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, Member of the Planning Board William Mullen, Member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, Member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Edward Siegmann J •r�;a -3- j } PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART (1891-1943) JOHNJ.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX I10 RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 DQRER�j n t1 T H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN FPr, VANESSA M.SHEEHAN• FAX 516 475-5651 L`r V �J u COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG RUSSELL C.BURCHER10 1 F1 JL AUG 26 DOUGLASJ.LEROSE 447-8 906 DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY,JR. •ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA PLANNIOLD TOWN OALSO ADMITTED IN NEWJERSEY I��r��r�0 BOARD August 25, 1988 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner RE: R I CHARD T. CARR:-- Dear Mrs . Scopaz: Please accept this lettei as a .confirmatioh o,f, my telephone conversation of this date with Jill of your office regarding a meeting scheduled for September 22, 1988 at 2 :00 P.M. at your office. Mr. Hart will be accompanied by Mr. Henry Raynor . Thank you for your cooperation. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU J net F. Haeberle Legal Assistant (for John J . Hart, Esq. ) JFH:hmm cc: Richard T. Carr Henry Raynor 1U/43 i 37r i^. X Town Hall, 53095 Main Road �' P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD August 16, 1988 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 .RE: Norris Estate' Development SCTM 41000-122-5-4 Dear Mr. Raynor: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, August 15, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold mown planning Board send the Draft Environmental Impact Statement to David Emilita, Planning Consultant, for his review. This was received by the Planning Board office on August 12, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board take a thirty ( 30) day extension for review of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. This will extend the review period, which would end on September 11, 1988, to October 11, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board ask that the correspondence from David Emilita, Planning Consultant, dated July 22, 1988, be discussed in the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. If you. have any questions, please do not hesitate to -contact this office. V r truly yours / BENNETT OR_LOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN cc: David Emilita it Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 �( TELEPHONE (516)765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD MEMORANDUM TO-: Thomas- C. Jorling, N.Y.S.D.E.C. Robert A. Greene, N.Y.S.D.E.C. Suffolk County Dept. .of Health FROM: . Planning Board Office RE: Preliminary Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Norris Estates (and the Carr-Wanat Change of Zone) DATE: August 12, 1988 _. . Enclosed please find a copy of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the Norris Estates Subdivision. This document has just been received for review by the Planning Board and the Town Board to determine whether it should be accepted as complete. Comments as to the completeness of this document must be received within thirty days of the date of this memorandum. UF��1�r P , SLO y Southold, N.Y. 119.71 (516) 765-1938 June 21, 1988 Stephen A. Costa, PE Chief Suffolk County Health Services Wastewater Management County Center Riverhead, NY 11901 RE: . Norris Estates- proposed major subdivision SCTM# 1000-122-5-4 1000-123-6-2 Carr/Wanat- proposed change of zone SCTM# 1000-112-1-16 Dear Mr. Costa, The Town is reviewing the above mentioned projects concurrently. At this point in time the Town needs to know the yield that the Norris property can sustain. We have been informed by the applicants for the above mentioned projects that your office will not make a recommendation based on a Draft Environmental Impact Statement that has been submitted by the applicant. At this time, the Planning Board is in receipt of only a preliminary Draft Environmental Impact Statement, which has. not yet been accepted as complete by our Environmental Consultant. According to the Consultant, this preliminary document is incomplete with regard to the yield that can be sustained by the water supply. The Planning Board would like to know whether the Norris property can sustain the density that is proposed before they review the change of zone proposal. Please send us your comments on the. above matter. Also include a listing of any additional information that your office needs to make a recommendation from either the Planning Board or the applicant. Thank you for your assistance. Very truly yours, BENNETT ORLOWSKI, R. CHAIRMAN ! "� I -- cc: David Emilita II� ms I �I r' r i i i i RECEIVED BY' 'SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOB 2 7: 1958 DATE P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 June 24, 1988 Y William Mullen, Jr. , Member Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Mullen: Please find enclosed a copy of memos from Pelletreau & Pelletreau with regard to the Norris Estates and Wanant properties. incerely, H nr rr, J Y Ra Y HER:ml Enc. CC: William Mullen, Jr. Bayberry Road Cutchogue, NY 11935 MEMO ON NORRIS ESTATES SUBMISSIONS January 30. 1986 Letter =r r from John` J_ Hart'.•to Bennett-, Orlowski r b r e T �} e questing th own of Southold to pass�;.a�-: - f resolution designating_. the, Planning- Board as d. , - G • rf.,� ��ahJ k°fie,.i, t ti r �. f 4 •\ s 1, lea agency "w"g fi a�-. January 31, 1986 Letter from John J. Hart to Bennett Orlowski asking, the proposed master plan be amended to show the Norris zoning of M Light Multiple Residence - February S.. 1986 A second, letter from John J_ Hart to Bennett Orlowski asking the Planning Board to be lead agency. March 3, 1986 The Planning Board declares themselves lead agency with regard to SEQR on the Norris Estates. April 1, 1986 The original site plan was submitted to Bennett Orlowski by Henry Raynor_ July 21, 1986 Scoping session held for Norris Estates. August 8, 1986 Letter from David Emilita to John J. Hart regarding the submission of a $2.000.'00 DEIS review fee. "November 6, 1986 Richard T. Carr, John J. Hart and Henry Raynor appear at the Town Board meeting. November 12, 1986 Henry Raynor sent a letter to Bennett Orlowski regarding the Suffolk County Department of Health Services preliminary evaluation and approvals of Norris Estates. November 1S, 1986 Henry Raynor sent a letter to Bennett Orlowski with the recommendations from the Mattituck Fire District. December 16. 1986 A letter was sent from Bennett Orlowski to Henry Raynor stating the Planning Board is no in., a position to schedule a pre-submission conference until SEQR has been completed. January 7, 1987 John J. Hart sent a letter to the Town Board regarding density and water studies on the Norris site. e Memo Norris Estates Submissions Cont 'd w Page 2 <. -. - + . ;:tM A' q �f wt „_' January 16, - 1987.. •: Letter Baas, sent.-from John` J. Hart to the Town Board regarding traffic study updates. March S. 1987 John J.. Hart sent a letter to Bennett Orlowski in. response to Rene Eastin's letter to. the Planning Board dated February 11. 1987 regarding hydrology and geology on the „ Norris Estates site and surrounding area. * November 30, 1987 Bennett Orlowski requested the water results on the Norris Estates property. * March 10, 1988 The water results were sent to the Town Board. * April S. 1988 John J. Hart wrote a letter to the Town Board regarding the parallel applications of both the Norris Estates property and the Wanat change of zone. * April 11, 1988 Bennett Orlowski sent a letter to John J. Hart regarding the Town's lead agency status. * April 18, 1988 David Emilita sent a letter to John J. Hart regarding lead agency status, the DEIS and "as of right" development of the Norris Estates property. * April 21. 1988 John J. Hart sent a reply letter to David Emilita regarding lead .ragency status. DEIS and "as of right" development. April 26, 1988 John J. Hart sent a letter to David Emilita regarding the number of units referred to in the EIS (132 to 108) . * May 16, 1988 David Emilita sent a second letter to John J. Hart regarding "as of right" development. * May 24, 1988 John J. Hart sent a second letter to David Emilita regarding "as of right" development property. t Y�r,7 ,t a. Memo.; .. - - - ,,�• n.,5 Norris Estates Submissions Cont 'd f f Page 1 k r ,l}y Y"6 ._ t 1 .a� - �i i June 1, a•,1988 John J.' Hart_ 9 nt=.-a letter."to Bennett Orlowski, reguesting that the lead agency be the proper authority. to ask- the Suffolk' +`a : County Department of Health Services to" make - ' a recommendation.,. . "' F * . June 8,. 1988 John J. Hart.' sent, a-letter. to Bennett Orlowski requesting recommendation on the change of zone on the Wanat parcel. * June 8, 1988 Bennett Orlowski sent a letter to David Emilita with a copy of the resolution passed by the Town Board on June 6, 1988 stating that the DEIS would be sent to Mr. Emilita for his review. * Copies of these pieces of correspondence are also to be found in the Memo regarding the Wanat parcel. 0137U/2-4 MEMO ON CARR/WANAT CHANGE OF ZONE APPLICATION ME ; x October 221987 Change of: Zone application was,' submittea„ to:' µ he Town of Southold Included s t Ln`. thJ. he were 3rctoples of the Environmentali ; „r,p�Ew Assessment form; Part I I' copies of �.F�t,. .,s r Y•i% i 0 ,,. .. . . .. petit.ion. : 6: cop1es, of 'the"curve T` y: a check.. for $500.00. to cover the filing fee and a check for $180.00 to cover David Emilita 's review of the EAF. * November 30, 1987 Bennett Orlowski stated that the Planning Board would not comment on the change of zone because it needed the information regarding the water on the Norris Estates property from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services. December 10, 1987 A letter from Henry Raynor to Judith Terry, Town Clerk, asking for a letter from the Town Board directed to the Suffolk County Department of Health Services since the Suffolk County Department of Health Services would not respond to an applicant ' s request for information. The Town was to pass a resolution to execute a letter to the Suffolk County Department of Health Services requesting information pertaining to lot density and water supply regarding both the Norris Estates and the Wanat parcels. December 18. 1987 A letter was sent from Supervisor Murphy to Roy Reynolds at the Suffolk County Department of Health Services requesting the above. December 23. 1987. A letter was sent from Roy Reynolds at the Suffolk County Department of Health Services to Supervisor Murphy regarding the applications on both Norris Estates and Wanat. January 22, 1988 A letter was sent from John J. Hart to Supervisor Murphy requesting the Change of Zone application be entertained prior to the Suffolk County Department of Health Services' determination of water supply on the Norris Estates property. February 8. 1988 A letter from .Walter Hazlitt regarding the Captain Kidd Water Company' s inability to supply water to the Wanat parcel was i S t Carr/Wanat Change of Zone Application Cont 'd_ Paget delivered to.'H2M. to 'submit to the Suffolk County Department of Health Services. February 26. 1988 A letter from Judith Terry, Town Clerk, along with _a. resolution of the Town Board was sent to- John J. Hart stating that the change of-' zone is a type 1 action for SEQR and a positive declaration of the Wanat parcel was declared. The applicant was requested to prepare a DEIS on the Wanat parcel. March 8, 1988 A letter from John J. Hart to the Town Board quoted David Emilita as saying that the Wanat parcel would be listed as an alternative project on the Norris Estates DEIS. No separate DEIS would be necessary for the Wanat parcel_ * March 10, 1988 Test results on the water on the Norris Estates property was sent to the Town Board. * April 5, 1988 There was a Town Board scoping session on the Wanat parcel which was attended by the applicant and various spokesmen for the applicant. * April 5, 1988 John J. Hart submitted a memo to the Town Board delineating parallel course of approvals for both thetWanat parcel and the Norris Estates parcel. * April 11. 1988 Bennett Orlowski sent a letter to John J_ Hart stating that the Town Board was lead agency on Wanat; the Planning Board was lead agency on the Norris Estates property and the Wanat parcel would be listed as an alternative in the Norris Estates DEIS. * April 18. 1988 David Emilita sent a letter to John J. Hart regarding Norris Estates and Wanat and their lead agency status; the DEIS and "as of right" development on the Norris Estates parcel. Memo Carr/Wanat Change of Zone Application Cont 'd. Page 3. April 21, 1988 John_ J Hat sent- letter to David Emlita` regarding an answer to the "as of right" development and EIS on both the Norris Estates and Wanat parcels. May 10, 1988 Judith Terry, Town Clerk, requested a $350.00 check for David Emilita 's scoping session fee. May 13. 1988 A check for $350.00 was sent from Pelletreau & Pelletreau to Judith Terry to cover David Emilita ' s' fee. * May 16. 1988 A second letter from David Emilita was sent to John J. Hart regarding "as of right" development on the Norris Estates parcel. * May 24, 1988 A second letter from John J. Hart to David Emilita regarding "as of right" development and its legal terminology. June 1, 1988 The DEIS on the Norris Estates parcel listing the Wanat parcel as an alternative was submitted to the Town Board by JAC Planning Corp. * June 1, 1988 John J. Hart sent a letter to Bennett Orlowski stating that the Suffolk County Department of Health Services will not make any recommendation based upon an applicant 's submission. The lead agency must forward . the DEIS to them with a request for a recommendation. We requested them to do so. June 3, 1988 A letter and resolution from Judith Terry, Town Clerk, regarding a $2.000.00 payment for review of the DEIS on Wanat was sent to John J. Hart. $1. 650.00 was due and payable since the scoping session fee of $350.00 had already been submitted. * June 8, 1988 John J. Hart sent a letter to Bennett Orlowski stating that the DEIS; site plans; yield maps and. Suffolk County Department a ` ,L7em0.... ;,, ..--, _ ' ':'. • ,P s t i„i r` ,g;ek i`7 ,�'e�. y-�... s Carr/Wanat Ch eang of Zone Application Cont'd X �4� pA T r ru `` r Pa e 4 VW .�''�"�ar�k�v ass r car a„ . ,# v i. - o :► : tee' $ 'S'i i.rtrRY �'` • ja `4.e.�,, v•-x{. S .k�, fit}z1-�1d 1'P ..i .� ^�.. •y'_.�1�sEr P 'rr t F x �,�..,i, atA� ii Y'ia�-.+'.'x" a,.!_l" „'• � ss� ��;"�R4g, Y ?plyr c3 y�, + x's, ti�s '4a.*. 7i �..•ir lrkh` 3 ,F'�; % of Health Services .nformation"`re:. .> �''�"�'.,,y df'k ���,j,A. ��xv'• SEQR has already been submitted to the Planning: Board. therefore._-: a.,• request was3 zrh �t� sµ x made:` for;,the Planning Board to' give its ,, ., r r r recommendation ono: the change of zone 3 #" p application > t June 15,` 1988 A check for $1.650^ OD was, sent,' to Judith x Terry; Town' Clerk. as had .been requested to cover David Emilita 's review of the DEIS. * Copies of these papers have also been included in the Memo regarding the Norris Estates parcel. 0137U/5-8 PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETERV.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERTS.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART (1891-1943) JOHNJ.ROE.III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 RICHARDA.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' FAX S16 475-56S1 OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG DIRECT DIAL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O DOUGLAS J.LEROSE 447-8925 DENNISD.O'DOHERTY,JR. RECEIM BY 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA SOUTHOLD TOViVI i UfVNING BOARD OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY a J JUN 13 imo-v June 8, 1988 Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Planning Board Director Town of Southold 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 RE: NORRIS ESTATES and CARR/WANAT Dear Chairman Orlowski: At the request of the Planning Board, the applicant has submitted the following documents regarding the above properties : 1. A draft working copy of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement; 2 . Two (2) site plans; 3 . Two (2) yield maps; and 4. The information requested from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services with regard to the SEQR proceedings. In addition, the applicant has scheduled an appearance before your a�l�cansr Board on June 20, 1988 . WZ\\ *-V At this time, we would respectfully request a recommendation from be meet",5 the Board regarding the Change of Zone Application. wl%-Pep, �4)015 no-V Kindly telephone the undersigned if you have any questions . PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU June 8 , 1988 Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Page 2 . Thank you for your cooperation and courtesy. Very truly yours , Pf1,QLETREAU & PELLETREAU Jo J. JFH:hmm cc: Hon. Francis J . Murphy, Supervisor Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran Councilwoman Ellen Larsen Councilwoman Ruth Oliva Councilman George L. Penny, IV Justice Raymond W. Edwards Judith Terry, Town Clerk of the Town of Southold Mr . David Emilita Mr. Richard T. Carr lU/28-29 ter, �FF�C�-�, P I> �1 D T �, , SOLD, D �- { , Y Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 June 8, 1988 David Emilita Szepatowski Associates,Inc. 23 Narragansett Avenue Jamestown, Rhode Island 02835 RE: Norris Estate Preliminary DEIS SCTM 41000-122-5-4 Dear- Mr. Emilita: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, June 6, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning. Board send the Preliminary working Draft Environmental Impact Statement to David Emilita, Planning Consultant, for his review. This parcel Is for 28.147 acres located at Mattituck. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Very y yours, BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN cc: John Hart -Enc. Jt TQ Ln Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 June 2, 1988 Dave Emlita Szepatowski Associates, Inc. 23 Narragansett Avenue Jamestown, Rhode Island 02835 RE: DEIS of Norris Estates SCTM 41000-122-5-4 Dear Dave, Enclosed please find the Draft Enviornmental Impact Statement of Norris Estates for your review. The Planning Board office received this on June 1, 1988, however a cover letter was not received. As soon as we receive a cover letter, we will forward a copy to you. The Planning Board, at its next regular meeting, June 6, intends to have a resolution asking for your review. At that time the resolution will be forwarded to you. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to, contact this office. Very ly yours, BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN Enc: Jt PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART (1891-1943) JOHNJ.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 RICHARDA.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN• FAX 516 475-5651 OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG DIRECT DIAL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O DOUGLAS J.LEROSE DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY,JR. 447-8925 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY [?ECEiVE® B1( Express Mail SOR�i� {;i��jls°�� P AN`WR ' June 1, 1988 t4�JlY '1 vS- DATE Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Director Town of Southold 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Re: NORRIS ESTATES and CARR/WANAT Dear Chairman Orlowski: The Draft Environmental Impact Statement as requested by the Planning Board is being delivered to your office under separate cover . We have been informed by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services that they will not make a recommendation based upon a submission by the applicant. It is their request that the Lead Agency forward the DEIS to them with a request for a recommendation. We would appreciate your following their procedure. Thank you for your attention to this matter . Should you have any further questions, please contact the undersigned. Very truly yours, P LETREAU PELLETREAU Jo n J. ar , Esq. -F :hmm Encl. cc: Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon. Jean W. Cochran Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. George L. Penny, IV Ms . Judith Terry, Town Clerk Mr. David Emilita, Town Consultant 1U/28 PEA LETREAU & PELLETREAU PETERV.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART (I89I-I943) JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 RICHARDA.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (1950-I980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN• FAX 516 475-5651 OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG DIRECT DIAL .. RUSSELR ERIO 447-8925 � a V DOUGLASJ LE.LEROSE �q IIIJJJ DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY,JR. gs 1 P� *ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDAgyTyI OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY l April 21, 1988 ! David J . S. Emilita, Principal Planner AICP SAI Limited 23 Narragansett Avenue Jamestown, Rhode Island 02835 Re: April 18 , 1988 Letter - Wanat - Norris Dear Mr . Emilita: This is in response to your letter to me dated April 18, 1988 , which was received by us on April 20, 1988 . From reading your paragraph numbered. l, we conclude that there will be a single draft EIS covering both sites of . a two-sited project . It is our understanding that the Wanat site will be treated as a project alternative for the draft EIS for Norris . We disagree with the conclusions reached in your paragraph numbered 2 . The Norris property, by reason of the rezoning to multiple use, which was affirmed by the courts , has acquired a legal "as of right" development yield . This is subject only to " legitimate" concerns regarding water , sewage, traffic and other items of legal impact. Your paragraph numbered 3 is confusing. I enclose herewith a letter dated April 11, 1988 addressed to me from the Planning Board of the Town of Southold . That letter indicates that a copy was also sent to you. The second paragraph of the April llth letter indicates that the Planning Board understands that the Town Board remains the lead agency on the change of zone of the Wanat property. This was my understanding. We do not disagree that the Town Board must approve or disapprove the zone change . f _ PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU David J .S. Emilita, Principal Planner Page 2 April 21, - 1988 It is the intent of the developer to proceed in good faith to provide a draft EIS for the Wanat property as an alternative to Norris . In the event the change of zone on Wanat is granted, the developer will covenant with the Town as to the combined density on both parcels . In the event the zone change is not granted for Wanat, it is the intent of the developer to proceed with its "as of right" development of the Norris property. It is our understanding, assuming the zone change on the Wanat parcel, that the Planning Board 11i be considering the site plans for both parcels . I realize that this is a first . I hope that we are able to iron out our technical difficulties and reach a conclusion that is in the best interests of the parties and the Town. Sincerely yours, LLETREAU & PELLETREAU n J . Hart s JJH:ma Enclosure cc : Judith Terry, Town Clerk James A. Schondebare, Esq . , Town Attorney Val-e-ri-e - Scopaz, Town Planner P.S. It is my understanding that an informal meeting to iron out details will be set up with Henry Raynor and Janet Eaeberie, from our office. 0001C/41-42 RECEIVE D_ �FIF P D APR 14 ;988 D PELLCTREAU & PELLETREAL) S Y Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 April 11 , 1988 John J. Hart, Esq. Pelletreau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street Box 110 Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Proposed Major subdivision of Norris Estates Mattituck SCTM # 1000-122-5-4 Dear Mr. Hart: The Planning Board, at its April 7th work session, was informed of the results of the scoping session held before the Town -Board on April 5 , 1988. The Planning Board understands that it remains the lead agency on the above named subdivision. propsal. It also understands that the Town Board' s the lead. agency on a petition to change the zone of the Carr-Wanat property froo,"A" Residential and Agricultural to "M" Light Multiple Residence.. Furthermore, it is understood, that when the draft Environmental Impact Statement for Norris Estates is submitted to the Planning Board for -its review, the "Alternatives" section of the DEIS will contain a detailed reference to the proposed Carr-Wanat petition as one of the possible alternatives . Very truly yours , BENNETT ORLOWSKI JR. CHAIRMAN ` cc: Francis J. Murphy, Supervisor Councilwoman Cochran Councilwoman Oliva Councilwoman Larsen Councilman Penny Judith T. Terry, Town Clerk James A. Schondebare ; Town Attorney David Emilita , Szepatowski Associates Henry Raynor, Representative, Richard T. Carr APR 2 8 M PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART (1891-1943) JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' FAX 516 475-5651 OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG DIRECT DIAL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI0 447-8906 DOUGLAS J.LEROSE DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY.JR. *ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA *ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY April 26, 1988 David J .S. Emilita, AICP C/o SAI 23 Naragansett Avenue Jamestown, Rhode Island 02835 Re: Norris Estate, Southold, New York Dear lair . Emilita: Please accept this letter as a clarification of one . point of our letter dated April 5, 1988, a copy of which is attached. In paragraph 4 of page 2, we refer to the development of the Norris property with 132 units, which is the maximum "as of . right" development of the property. The Environmental Impact Statement for the Norris Estate ' s project will address the construction of 108 multi-family units, not 132. We offer this by way of clarification. Thank you for your consideration. Very truly vourg; LLETREAU & PELLETREAU l oh J . 4 rt JFH: lyn Enclosure cc: Valerie Scopaz Town Planner Town of Southold Olu(s) " 4, PELLETREAU & PELL•ETREAU PETERV.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART (I891-1943) JOHN J.ROE.111 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 _ RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE,NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) J TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT'H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN• FAX S16 475-5651 OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG DIRECT DIAL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI0 447-8925 DOUGLAS J.LE ROSE DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY.JR. 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA QALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY April 5, 1.988 Hon. Francis J . Murphy Supervisor, Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Hon. Jean W. Cochran Hon. Ruth Oliva P.O. Box 285 Town Hall Southold, N.Y. 11971 53095 Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11 --- Hon. Raymond W. Edwards P.O. Box 511 Hon. Ellen Larsen Fishor_s Island, N.Y. 06390 Town Hall 53095 Main Road. Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Southold, N.Y. 11971 Planning Board Chairman Town of Southold Hon. George L. Penny, IV Main Road P.O. Box 57 Southold, N.Y. 11971 Greenport, N.Y. 11944 Re: Carr-Wanat Application for Change of Zone Dear Supervisor Murphy, Members of the Town Board and Planning Board Chairman Orlowski : I am writing th.i.s; leLter to you to confirm my unders;tsanding of the result of. the "scoping" session held at the Town Hall on Tuesday, April. 5, 1.988 with the Town Board . An Application for a Change. of. 7.one from "A11 Residential Agricultural District to IIM11 Light Multiple-Residence. Distr. ict for Richard T. Carr. and Joseph A. Wanat was under consideration at. 1:1►is meeting. r , PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Supervisor Murphy and Members of Town Board Page 2 April 5 , 1988 By Resolution adopted' by the Town Board at a regular meeting held on February 23 , 1988., the Board, as "lead agency" requested Mr . Carr and Mr . Wanat to prepare a draft Environmental Impact Statement (Exhibit "A" ) . Attached to the Resolution was a State Environmental Quality Review Positive Declaration bearing date January, 1988 , prepared by Mr . Emilita which is also enclosed (Exhibit "B" ) . The Resolc,ll on of February 23 , 1988 was preceded on November 6, 1987 by a letter addressed to the New York State Department of Environmental Conservati.on indicating that the Town Board was lead agency and requesting the Department ' s vi.ews on the project (Exhibit "C" ) . On December 18 , 1987 , the Town 'Board wrote to the Suffolk County Department of Health Services requesting information regarding the water supply at the "Norris" property. It is my further understanding that the Planning Board is the lead agency f..or. the Norris pr.opor•Ly and continues in that capacity. - The applicant i.s, therefore, proceeding on parallel courses which will provide the following: a draft Environmental. Impact Statement to be presented to the Town Board for the 107 acre Carr-Wanat property, which will furnish the information requested showing the impact of 107 single family dwellings on the this parcel . We will. also furnish copi-es of -the draft Environmental Impact Statement being ..prepared for the Planning Board for the Norris, pr.operLy. This; will consider the - development of the- Norris property "as of ri.ght" with 132 units . In addition, there will be an alternative proposal which the Planning Board will recce i ve which will show 25 units on thci Norris property, to be coupled with the 107 imit.s on the Carr-Wanat property. If the alternative solution on Lbe Norris property is . adopted, it will regc,ire action by the Planning Board to approve the site plan for Norris and a change of zone by the Town Board with simultaneous site . plan approval by the Planning Board for Carr.-Wanat. It is my understanding that this action will proceed on parallel tracks and that the decision-making process will be simultaneous . In the event, for whatever reason, the change of zone for Carr-Wanat and the Norris 25 iini,L site plan are not approved , it is the intent of the applicant to proceed with its "as of right" application for Norris , which is already before the Planning Board. r PELLETREAU &,PELLETREAU Supervisor Murphy and Members of Town Board Page 3 April 5, . 1988 The applicant, Richard Carr, is .going forward on his understanding of the resolutions of both the Town Board and the Planning Board and is acting in reliance thereon. If this statement of our understanding of the determination of the Town Board and the Planning Board is in any way incorrect, please advise us immediately as the applicant is expending tens of thousands of dollars in reliance upon his understanding of the action taken by the Town Board and the Planning Board and statements made in connection therewith. We are hopeful that we will be in a position over the next several weeks to furnish you with all the information that has been requested. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely yours, PEI,LETREAU & ELLETREAU • �1�� /JfN C J n J .-Hart .JJH:ma cc: Richard Carr Shamrock Associates James Schondebare, Esq. , Town Attorney David Emilita Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Judith Terry, Town Clerk Team Members : Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher , McLendon & Murrell Att : Gary Loesch Dravo Van Houten, Inc. Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att:Michael Bontje 2163C/1-3 SUFFOLK COUNTY Dt.PT. Oi* �;'.• i i ti DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERFI pf c:,.1. J i' , .� „ Date Requested DRINKING MATEY SUPPLY SECTION .1 .1901 Test Well SafPling 11AR 188 (3) TEST WELL Appointment Date (2 ) _ 1, `c C\ 5 Day Subd�visionr N ( 9 ) e 11 JJ J� `L Time Stree � ( 8) (30) Community Map Coordinate i1 - (7 ) Township Code TBA TBR Location MAR 2 TEH THU TIS ✓ TOS TRI TSH TSI TSM (20) COMM NCOM __jZPRIV TAX MAP NUMBER ( 14) District /00 _ Well Driller ��� - ( 13) Section /ZZ . ( 16 ) Block S. Phone 9��- Z� l (17 ) Lot WELL INFORMATION _ 1 �1�', (•^ ( 1 ) Test Well # . . 1 2 ' Ir 4 ( 23 ) Subdiv Lot # . (31 ) Depth . . . . . . . . (33) Depth to Water Z-S' fir (42 ) Casing Size SAMPLE INFORMATION /�O) (51 ) Sample Date ZZ Samp Type[ // Bact ( 54) Sample Tap Q ,` artial Ch7SC + MBAS Time Start `Q3fl Small SCO Pest Time Stop Other .,�L� (11 ) Elapsed Run Time �� lit/c Remarks (24) Gallons Per Minute Depth Checked Yes No Sanitarian 83ti0 Lab No. Date Received In Lab IEB 22 1988 FO Field No. Public Water Date: Private Water Time: Other Col. By: Date Completed +DES 2 !38Pi (Name not initials) Examined By LA— SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY CH MICAL EXAMINATION OF WATER �''`*�" Owner or Name District Location Point of Collection .,�� M_ R RR ry� R Remarks:/'.id- MAR (1) Results Reported as Micrograms Per Liter. O UUT HOLD TOWN Partial 6Y.", Complete 11 Metals Only 0 75 Spec.Cond. —ALmhos/cm Q T.Alkalinity (mg/I CaCO3) 81 WAS(mg/1) ea 73 pH 82 1 Hardness (mg/l CaCO3) 88 Total Hyd P(mg/1) 78 Nitrites+ 83 Ca Hardness m / Nitrates(m /I N) � I ( g I CaCO3) 90 Fluoride(mg/I F) 76 Free Ammonia(mg/l N) O v I Mg Hardness (mg/I CaCO3) 77 Nitrites(mg/I N) ;0 Chlorides(mg/l Cl) 3 37 Su Kates(mg/l SO4) 3 8 120 Arsenic (1) '00 Iron(mg/I Fe) / I> 125 Selenium (1) 01 Manganese(mg/I Mn) 122 Cadmium (1) 02 Copper(mg/l Cu) 123 Lead (1) 06 Sodium(mg/l Na) f 126 Silver (1) -03 Zinc(mg/l Zn) 1 104 Chromium (1) 124 Mercury (1) 121 Barium (mg/I Ba) Director form No.PHL-1 18-308..9/66as J Lab No . TO--7- Re c 'd at Lab Field No .,r^- - Public Water Date Private Water Time Other Col . By Date Completed Examined By SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DIVISION OF MEDICAL LEGAL INVESTIGATIONS & FORENSIC SCIENCES PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY TRACE ORGANIC ANALYSIS OF WATER Name �� �� � Owner or District Location Point of Collection �.► �./� Remarks : Compound ppb Compound ppb SO6vinyl chloride . . . . . . . . 41 _ 250 benzene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .C( 305 methylene chloride . . . . 4 251 toluene ,e,( 290 bromochloromethane _ 258 chlorobenzene . . . . . . . . . . . 323 1 , 1 dichloroethane . . . . 1- 1 259 ethylbenzene . . . . . . . . . . . . .L! 309 trans dichloroethylene . 254 o-xylene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . =L- 300 chloroform . . . . . . . . . . . . . 252 m-xylene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . �( 324 1, 2 dichloroethane 4! 253 p-xylene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<f 3.21 1 , 1 , 1 trichloroethane . 4 ! 255 total xylenes 304 carbon tetrachloride . . . ,� i 257 bromobenzene . . . . . . . . . . . 294 1 bromo 2 chloroethane .4 266 o-chlorotoluene 405 1, 2 dichloropropane . . . �,r 267 m-chlorotoluene ( � 310 1 , 1 , 2 trichloroethylene 268 p-chlorotoluene 303 chlorodibromomethane . . -: f 265 total chlorotoluene . . . . - 293 1 , 2 dibromoethane . . . . . . 4'19 1 , 3 , 5 trimethylbenzene . � t 420 2 bromo 1 chloropropane ��_ 418 1, 2 , 4 trimethylbenzene . 301 bromoform . . . . . . . . . . . . . 415 m, p-dichlorobenzene . . . . 311 tetrachloroethylene . . . 412 o-dichlorobenzene . . . . . . " 308 cis dichloroethylene . . �, I 432 p-diethylbenzene . . . . . . . .4 ( 320 freon 113 435 1, 2 , 4 , 5 tetramethylbenz ' { ( 292 dibromomethane �� 437 1 2 4 trichlorobenzene . ' 307 1, 1 dichloroethylene . . _ 438 1, 2, 3 trichlorobenzene . 302 bromodichloromethane f 409 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 tetrachl 'oethane 406 2, 3 dichloropropene 430 1, 2 , 2 , 3 tetrachl ' propane 407 cis dichloropropene . . . � ; 295 s-tetrachloroethane . . . . 408 trans dichloropropene 431 1 , 191 , 2 tetrachl 'propane 322 1 , 1 , 2 trichloroethane 433 1 , 2 , 3 trichloropropane �_ Lab No. P- 0;88247 Rec ' d in L Field No. Public Water ( 51 ) Date Private Water Time , Other Col . By _ '> Date Comp let SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DIVISION OF MEDICAL LEGAL INVESTIGATIONS & FORENSIC SCIENCES PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY PESTICIPE ANALYSIS OF WATER (3) Last Name /�; . �;;.����/,'//� �/mil, (2) First ( 4) Street N o . ( 9 ) Street 1,�i;,�i �,.. !- .��✓ ,!4.r,,,, •�� (8) Community / ,-��`� .�,; / Sampling Poit >t. ./.o Mailing Address �1 (20) Pub Ncom Priv / (14) District �✓�� ( 15) Distance to Farm ft . / ( 13) Section /-2-.2 (30) Map Coordinates / / / (16 ) Block --� ( 31 ) Well Depth ft . / (17 ) L,ot (57 ) Resample? Yes Key R No _ / Owner ' COMPOUND PPB /• MG/L (223 ) ' Aldicarb L / ( 78 ) Nitrate . . . . . . . . . . . ( 425) Aldicarb Sulfoxide . . . / (426 ) Aldicarb Sulfone . . . . . . / ( 224) Carbofuran . . . . . . . . . . . / (427 ) 3 -Hydroxycarbofuran . . L / ( 428) Oxamyl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . / (429 ) Carbaryl . . . . . . . . . . . . . �) / ( 30) Methomyl . . . . . . . . . . . . . � I / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . � I / 18-1 347:6/86 _ s B SUFFOLK COIINT ���� � •� r „_ _ DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICE Date Requested OJ DRINKING WATER SUPPLY SECTION .. * i" Test Well Sampling 9OUTHOLD.70INN PLANNING 80ARD _ (3) TEST WELL Appointment Date 12 / 28 F7 VvOr-,rX ® Subdivisi,n,Name o.2 ( 9 ) N e-,-^i 1'� AJ 2 T'i me I D ` 3 A-M . �. Street . � !. ( 8 ) „� 0- 1 ` yC'i (3 0) Community Map Coordinates (7 ) Township Code TBA TBR Location 5 �� Si�, W"��►'e- :� TEH THU TIS V TOS TRI TSH TSI T SM. (20) COMM NCOM PRIV TAX MAP NUMBER ( 1.4) District 1000. Well Driller ( 13) Section �yz. ��� 3- Zg1l ( 16 ) Block s" Phone 0 7 ) Lot WELL INFORMATION (1 ) Test Well # 2 S 3 4 ( 23 ) Subdiv Lot # (3 1 ) Depth L14 6 rp (.e(a ( 33) Depth to Water L0 (42 ) Casing Size . . SANPLE INFOR ATIOH (51 ) Sample Date 2 -cLB-87 Sample Type Bact ( 54) Sample Tap rump Partial Chemical + MBAS Time Start �. `JD /D.OU Small SCO SC Pest Time Stop /�.�0 P1;®.� Other p l A axe-e.� ,.&k 6Nell (11 ) Elapsed Run Time Remvkss j (24 ) Gallons Per Minute �a l�� Depth Checked Yes No WPJ/jola, Sanitarian S.. N • 1 DEC -8987 Lab No. Date Received in Lab Field No. 1 O Public Water Date: f ca --S 7 Private Water k Time: Other Col. By: y Ae is yZ'��, Date Completed DEC 31 1987 (Name not initials) Examined By SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY CHEMICAL EXAMINATION OF WATER Owner or Name N 0fL l4 lS E 5T A' r475 T' w. � District E Location A V E`— Point of Collection 1P V ^4 P Remarks: F (1) Results Reported as Micrograms Per Liter. Partial Complete ❑ Metals Only 13 Spec.Cond. 84 T. Alkalinity (mgll CaCO3) 81 MBAS(mg/1) mhos/cm pH 3 82 T. Hardness (mg/I CaCO3) 88 Total Hyd P(mg/1) Nitritbs+ Z 83 Ca Hardness (mg/I CaCO3) 90 Fluoride(mg/I F) Nitrates(mg/1 N) Free Ammonia(mgll N) 0 S (P Mg Hardness (mgll CaCO3) 77 Nitrites(mgll N) Chlorides(mg/I CI) I Sulfates(mgll 504) 3 120 Arsenic (1) Iron(mgll Fe) 3, 3/ 1 5 Selenium (1) Manganese(mg/1 Mn) 0 o 122 Cadmium (1) Copper(mg/I Cu) D 0 123 Lead (1) Sodium(mgll Na) 126 Silver (1) 'I Zinc(mg/I Zn) 104 Chromium (1) 124 Mercury (1) 121 Barium (mg/I Ba) l_nr�J�r ✓�!' Director no No.PHL-1 16�W.Ylbot . Lab No . TO-/.2?7 y Rec'd at Lab s:;'+•,.. Field No . ((py Public- Water Date Private Water . Time Any Other lVsai Col . By VERVZZP, Date. Completed ►6-r,o-�,� ` Examined By �'• 1L ;; ;� SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DIVISION OF MEDICAL LEGAL INVESTIGATIONS & FORENSIC SCIENCES << PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY TRACE ORGANIC ANALYSIS OF WATER Name Owner or District ?— Location /l1 F- uJ SV F r-OG+-- Agg' , MA T"T ITOC W. • ,;;sue Point of Collection to moo " ,.A Remarks . Compound ppb Compound 306 vinyl chloride . . . . . . . . 250 benzene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .41 305 methylene chloride 251 toluene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . / "t - 290 bromochloromethane . . . . - 258 chlorobenzene. . . . . . . . . . . . ' 323 1 , 1 dichloroethane 259 ethylbenzene - . - . . . . . . . . . 309 trans dichloroethylene . i 254 o-xylene : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 !^ 300 chloroform . . . . . . . . . . . . 252 m-xylene .. i 324 1, 2 dichloroethane . . . . 253 p-xylene 321 1 , 1 , 1 trichloroethane 255 total xylenea . . . . . . . . . . - 304 carbon tetrachloride . . . ; 257 bromobenzene - . - . . . . . . . . 294. 1 bromo 2 chloroethane 266 o-chlorotoluene ,,..E 405 1 2 dichloro ro ane . - . p p 267 m-chlorotoluene . . . . . . . . �_ 310 1 1 2 trichloroeth lene 268 : ", y p-chlorotoluene . . . . . . . . 4f - 303 chlorodibromomethane . . 265 total chlorotoluene 293 1 , 2 dibromoethane . . . . . _ ' 419 1 ,3,5 trimethylbenzene 420 2 bromo 1 chloropropane _ 418 1, 2 , 4 trimethylbenzene � ( '•' 301 bromoform 4 _ 415 m, p-dichlorobenzene . . . . : ,� 311 tetrachloroethylene . . . .4 412 o-dichlorobenzene . . too . A. '308 cis dichloroethylene . . 41— 432 p-diethylbenzene _ mo- 320 freon 113 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 435 1, 2, 4 , 5 tetramethylbenz' I - 292 dibromomethane 437 1 , 2 , 4 trichlorobenzene . 307 1, 1 dichloroethylene 438 1, 2, 3 trichlorobenzene . L 302 bromodichloromethane . . 409 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 tetrachl 'oethane , - 406 2, 3 dichloropropene . . . 430 1, 2 , 2, 3 tetrachl ' propane 407 cis dichloropropene . . . 295 s-tetrachloroethane . . . . _ 408 trans dichloropropene . 431 1, 1 , 1 , 2 tetrachl ' propane —_- 322 1 , 1 , 2 trichloroethane - -- 1 433 1 , 2 , 3 trichloropropane .. I IA.19Ad A/RC= '' y r � � 31 (I.(ab 0 1287386 Rec'd in Lab Field No. 1 ! orb Public Water (51) Date 1 0O.-ast—;P 7 Private Water Time Other Col. By VEA y14-8 Date Completed,)z 31 SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DIVISION OF MEDICAL LEGAL INVESTIGATIONS & FORENSIC SCIENCES PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY PESTICIDE ANALYSIS OF WATER (3) Last Name ESTATES T' W. ( (2) First (4) Street No. (9) Street N� w S F FDA-►f� f't�1 E (8) Community 14fF T T I T tIC-It / Sampling Point - PvZ4 10 Mailing Address (20) Pub Ncom Priv / (14) District 0 0 (15) Distance to Farm ft. / (13) Section 1 9-�c'PL (30) 'Map Coordinates / / / (16) Block (31) Well Depth 6 6 rt. / (17) Lot (57) Resample? Yes Key R No / Remarks Last Result / Owner COMPOUND PP13 / MG/L (223) Aldicarb.......... ....................... t / (431) Metham . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . �. (425) Aldicarb Sulfoxide....................... / (078) Nitrate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .8i (426) Aldicarb Sulfone.........................� / 1 (224) Carbofuran............................... ! / (427) 3-Hydroxycarbofuran................... / (4 8) Oxamyl................................... / Carbaryl.I ................................. I / 1-Naphthol............................... �4, 0' Mefhomyl................................ / • , .. 'ipri'y'- :i•.'• �$,"cN�'?F �.+� �,�t;,. •• ,��;,•�i�• iR• .`•.i tit�y4, .�,'t k� ._ y�Fatfi'� 'e'..., 1'..."� der...+(�iJP`�'!`�$.3�?i°v�rN'�•- r 1 • i < < �'U pG R �! 37 Lab No. Date Received in Lab Field No.. Public Water Date: t a S 7 Private Water Time: Other Col. By: VE R yl /p Date Completed (Name not Initials) Examined By µ' SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY CHEMICAL EXAMINATION OF WATER Owner or Name AJ0 A JQ I S E .s 7-14 TES T•W• Q, District Location N 957 w S U FFO L IK Ar Vj=—%, t1,4 T T! TU c t< Point of Collection PV M P Remarks: 8A 5 (1) Results Reported as Micrograms Per Liter. Partial Complete 11 Metals Only 0 75 Spec.Cond. 84 T. Alkalinity (mg/I CaCO3) 81 MBAS(mg/1) mhos/cm 73 pH 62 T. Hardness (mg/l CaCO3) 68 Total Hyd P(mglq 78 Nitrlles+ 6 83 Ca Hardness (mg/I CaCO3) 90 Fluoride(mgll F) Nitrates(m ll N) 76 Free Ammonia(mgll NI Mg Hardness (mg/I CaCO3) 77 Nitrites(mg/I N) 90 Chlorides(mgll Cl) S 87 Sullales(mg/I SO4) 120 Arsenic (1) 100 Iron(mg/I Fe) Z qV10 125 Selenium (1) 101 Manganese(mg/I Mn) oo, 122 Cadmium (1) 102 Copper(mg/I Cu) 123 Lead (1) 106 Sodium(mgll Na) 126 Silver (1) 103 Zinc(mgll Zn) 104 Chromium (1) 124 Mercury (1) 121 Barium (mg/l Ba) Director Form No.PHL•1 • , iM308_fil��,� ' •.t�'+' ; tom. a'vo { t7 -� Re c'd,_a t Lab o • Lab u tik: Field NoTO�tta.S- Public, Water . 1 " Private Water `rKs,;•. Date �o'L-,4LR tB Other Time /4'M Completed _ k�-.k- Col. Date `•' BY V&R.Yl-�l2 Examined By SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DIVISION OF MEDICAL LEGAL INVESTIGATIONS & FORENSIC SCIENCES PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY TRACE ORGANIC ANALYSIS OF WATER ? " Name 1VOR/Q/S ESTArjES 17 W oL Owner or District ._` •;; Location AIAW S yF`oLIL y� /°9 TT/ T!/�!� Point of Collection -EU141 to Remarks . t�'(f <:'rr4� Compound ppb Compound ppb_ tY:=rJ f4 306 vinyl chloride tl. 250 benzene 305 methylene chloride . . . . < ` 251 toluene . • . • • • • • • • • • • • • • ' ( 1 258 chlorobenzene. 290 bromochloromethane • . • • _ • • • • • • • • • • 4 _ 323 1 , 1 dichloroethane . . . . < l 259 ethylbenzene . . . . . . . . . . . . . r 254 o-xylene . . . . . . 309 trans dichloroethylene. : 1 . . . . . . . . . I 300 chloroform 252 m-xylene . . . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . 324 1, 2 dichloroethane • . • • 253 p-xylene . . • • • • • • • • • •.• • • =�_ :: :` _ 321 1 , 1 , 1 trichloroethane . 255 total xyleues - 304 carbon tetrachloride . . . 257 bromobenzene 294 1 bromo 2 chloroethane 2'66 o-chlorotoluene . • • • • • • • � { 405 1, 2 dichloropropane 267 m-chlorotoluene 310 1 , 1 ,2 trichloroethylene 268 p-chlorotoluene ;,.,. 303 chlorodibromomethane . . _ ' 265 total chlorotoluene • . • • t='� 293 1 , 2 dibromoethane . . . . • _ ' 419 1 , 3 , 5 trimethylbenzene • .`?.' 420 2 bromo 1 chloropropane _ 418 1, 2 , 4 trimethylbenzene • .< 1 301 bromoform . . • • • • • • • • . 415 m,p-d'i'chlorobenzene . . . . 4 _ 311 tetrachloroethylene . . . _ 412 o-dichlorobenzene . . . . ... L�_ ;` 308 cis dichloroethylene . . _ c 432 p-.diethylbenzene . • • • • • • <( 320 freon 113 _ 435 1, 2, 4 , 5 tetramethylbenz' t1 292 dibromomethane . . . . . • • • i 437 1 , 2,4 trichlorobenzene . 307 1, 1 dichloroethylene • - 41 438 1, 2, 3 trichlorobenzene C, 302 bromodichloromethane . . .41 409 1 , 1 , 1 ,2 tetrachl 'oethane .4 406 2, 3 dichloropropene . • • 41 430 1, 2, 2, 3 tetrachl ' propane - 407 cis dichloropropene . . . 295 s-tetrachloroethane 408 trans dichloropropene . 431 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 tetrachl 'propane 322 1 , 1 , 2 trichloroethane . - i 433 1 , 2 , 3 trichloropropane t 1A.19Ad A/Ar. v...,..,......_ Rec'd in Lab (11 .ab 9 __ Public Water Fie d No. I '� Private Water (51) Date -r Other Time - Date Completed z Col. By V SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DIVISION OF MEDICAL LEGAL INVESTIGATIONS 8 FORENSIC SCIENCES PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY PESTICIDE ANALYSIS OF WATER (3) Last Name LA)• cP . (2) First (4) Street No. (9) Street NE YJ .S YJ' FO'-tt A'y (8) Community Ue- / Sampling Point. �vM Mailing Address (20) Pub Ncom Priv / (14) District (15) Distance to Farm O / N. / (13) Section (30) Map Coordinates / / I (16) Block 57 (31) Well Depth 6 - ft. / (17) Lot (57) Resample? Yes Key R No / Remarks Last Result / Owner COMPOUND PPB / MG/L (223) Aldicarb.......... ....................... / (431) Metham . (425) Aldicarb Sulloxide....................... / (078) Nitrate . . . . . . (426) Aldicarb Sullone.........................—i_- / 224 Carboluran.......:....................... 41 / (427) 3-Hydroxycarboturan................... / (4 .8) Oxamyl............... ................... C ` / 9) Carbaryl.................................. 4) 1-Naphthol............................... / 4 0) Melhomyl................................ / 1�•11i2.1��:st at 'OpY FOR YOUR MEMORANDUM To: Judith Terry, Town Clerk From: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner RE: Carr/Wanat Change of Zone Application Date: March 11, 1988 I am in receipt of Mr. John J. Hart's letter to the Town Board dated March 8, 1988. The letter states that they are preparing a statement which would be part of the Norris Estate DEIS. The Norris Estate DEIS is for a subdivision. The Carr/Wanat DEIS that the Town Board requested is for a change of zone. I do not think that the applicant can ,on his own, answer the Town Board' s request for a DEIS by supplementing a DEIS that is before the Planning Board for another matter. Perhaps, the Town Board should._consult with Mr. Emilita and the Town Attorney, then respond to Mr. Hart' s letter so as to clear any possible misunderstanding . Furthermore, the test well results should be sent to Mr. Emilita for his review aaell. Enc. attached letter cc: Planning. Board ]t ./8 /-7C-/ 'T r PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW JOHN J.HART ROBERT S PELLETREAI JOHNJ.ROE.III 20 CHURCH STREET B (1891-1943)OX I10 RICHARDA.SCHOENFEL J.TIMOTHYEDERIC SH A PATCHOGUE,NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.KEVIN A.SEAMAN TEL. 516 447-896o ROBERT H.PELLE-TREAL VANESSAM.SHE FAX 516/475-5651 VANESSA M.SHEEHAN' OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG DIRECT DIAL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI O 447-8 9 0 6 DOUGLAS J.LEROSE DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY,JR. 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA *ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY March 8 , 1988 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Supervisor, Town or Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, ' New York 11971 Council Members: Hon. Jean W_.- Cochran P.O. Box 285 Southold, New York 11971 Hon. Raymond W. Edwards P.O. Box 511 Fishers Island, New York 06390 �° U t� Hon. George L. Penny, IV (S P.O. Box 57 Greenport, New York 11944 Hon. James Schondebare TOWN tdliBOARD P.O. Box 1,018 Southold, New York 11971 Hon. -Paul Stoutenburgh Skunk Lane Cutchogue., New York 11935 Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Planning Board Director Town of Southold Main Road.. . Mattit-uck, New York 11952 RE: CARR/WANAT CHANGE OF ZONE Mattituck, New York Dear Supervisor Murphy, Council Members and Mr . Or-lowski.: We are in. receipt of a . letter from Judith Terry dated February 26 , 1988 ,---a copy o-f which is attached, requesting the { T PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Page 2 March 8, 1988 Re: Mat tituck, NY petitioner to prepare a Draft Environmental Impact Statement on the above proposed Change of Zone property. We are presently accumulating the information necessary to prepare such a statement, however , a separate DEIS should not be necessary. At the request of the ;Town' s Environmental Consultant, David Emilita, we are coordinating the Wanat and .Norris Estates ' Environmental Impact Statements . The Wanat property will be presented as an alternative plan for the Norris Estates project. The DEIS on the Norris Estates property has already been filed with the Town. Should you have any questions regarding the above, please feel free to contact the undrsigned. Very truly yours, P LETREAU & PELLETREAU. oh J . Ha t JFH:hmm Encl . 1U/29-30 FULk Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 JUDITH T.TERRY TELEPHONE TOWN CLERK (516) 765-1801 REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD February 26, 1988 Janet Haeberle Pelletrau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street - Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 Dear Ms. Haeberle: Enclosed is a certified resolution of the Southold Town Board determining that the Carr-Wanat change of zone proposal is a Type I action and is likely to have a significant effect on the environment, as, well as a copy of the Positive Declaration. The petition is hereby requested to prepare a draft environmental impact statement. Please submit same to me upon completion. Thank you. Very truly yours, i:K',_-_7t"h T. T .Southold Town Clerk Enclosures ' , - - • r' i PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU 11 AR 7 PETER V. SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S. PELLETREAU JOHN J. HART 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 (1891-1943) JOHN J.ROE,III l RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD RATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 y (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 515 475-5656 ROBERT H. PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN OF COUNSEL VANESSA M. SHEEHAN* BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA March 5 , 1987 Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Chairman Town of Southold Planning Board Southold, New York 11971 RE: NORRIS ESTATES Dear Chairman Orlowski: This letter is in response to the letter dated February 11, 1987 addressed to the Planning Board by Rene Eastin, Ph.D. , Consultant for hydrology and geology. As a general comment, it is clear that the writer of that letter has painted a picture with a very broad brush. His comments could apply to any property in the Town of Southold. On the other hand, H2M (Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell - quoted by the writer in his second paragraph) made a specific and exhaustive study of the water conditions on the Norris site. They have found that there is sufficient good water on the Norris site, not only for the proposed development, but for additional users as well . As a matter of fact, there is a fresh water lens at the Norris site, almost 100 feet in depth. It is unfortunate, as stated in Mr . Eastin' s third paragraph, that there was substantial small-lot development near the shore line in the past. This over-utilization (in some cases with a density of four to the acre) has created the problem to which Mr. Eastin alludes . In his fourth paragraph, Mr . Eastin talks of the loss of ground water by "surface runoff" . As you are aware, there is a requirement that there be 100% site retention of runoff . 1 PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU March 5, 1987 Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Page 2 . The runoff from the site will be returned to the ground on the site. In addition to the runoff , there will be a return to the ground of the effluent from the tertiary system. Quality of the water returned to the ground, as Mr . Eastin points out, will be superior to that recharged when septic tanks are used. Mr . Eastin suggests clustering as a means of conserving ground water . The proposed Norris Development will of course be clustered. Again, there will be no "runoff into the Bays" as we will retain all surface water on the site. There is difference of opinion that "paved and developed areas also increase surface runoff" ; there is a school of thought that contends that paved areas increase the percentage of recharge when properly directed. In paragaph six of his letter, Mr . Eastin suggests measures which the Planning Board, the Developer and the Health Department of Suffolk County are examining with respect to the Norris site . Rather than dealing in generalities the Developer, his Engineers, the Planning Board and the Health Department and other interested agencies have been dealing in specifics . They are all concerned that the site be developed properly in accordance with the existing long-standing zoning and that all concerns regarding water, sewage, traffic and environmental impact be addressed and exact answers be furnished. Mr . Eastin' s suggestion that we erect a barrier around the Town of Southold to prevent further development is selfish and unrealistic. The proposed development of the Norris property (which has never been zoned two acres) , with the proper safeguards imposed by the Health Department, the Planning Board and other agencies having jurisdiction, will in all probability use less water than the prior farm irrigation for potatoes . We would again restate our position. We have specific answers for specific questions and are prepared to develop the property in accordance with the zoning and with the law. PELLETREAU 8& PELLETREAU March 5, 1987 Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Page 3 . Thank you for your consideration. Very truly yours, E " TREAW PELLETREAU oh J . at JJH:hmm Enclosures cc : Hon. Francis J . Murphy Supervisor Town of Southold Old Main Road Mattituck, New York 11952 Council Members: Hon. Jean W. Cochran P.O. Box 285 Southold, New York 11971 Hon, Raymond W. Edwards P.O. Box 511 Fishers Island, New York 06390 Hon. George L. Penny, IV P.O. Box 57 Greenport, New York 11944 Hon. James Schondebare P.O. Box 1018 Southold, New York 11971 Hon. Paul Stoutenburgh Skunk Lane Cutchogue, New York 11935 Richard Carr c/o Shamrock Property Corp. 350 Fifth Avenue Room 1826 New York, New York 10118 1C/1=3 'JAN 2 5 1988 PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V.SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S.PELLETREAU JOHN J.HART 0891-1943) JOHN J.ROE,III 20 CHURCH STREET-BOX 110 RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT H.PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN FAX 516/475-5651 VANESSA M.SHEEHAN* OF COUNSEL BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG DIRECT DIAL RUSSELL C.BURCHERI 0 447-8906 DOUGLAS J.LEROSE DENNIS D.O'DOHERTY,JR. 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEWJERSEY January 22, 1988 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Supervisor Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 RE: HEATHER HILLS Dear Supervisor Murphy: We have received the enclosed letter dated .November 30, 1987, from the Planning Board. We feel that the position taken by the Department of Health Services in its letter of December 23, 1987, a copy of which is enclosed, saying that "the proposed population densities appear to be in conformance with .Article• VI of the Suffolk County Sanitary Code" indicates that the zone change, which is a density function, can be addressed prior to the determination regarding water supply at the Norris property. As a matter of fact, it is our understanding that the Environmentalist employed by the Town has recommended that the proposal regarding the increase of density on the Wanat site be included in the alternative section of the Environmental Impact Statement for the Norris property. We, therefore, respectfully request the application for the change of zone on the Wanat property be entertained prior to the determination by' the Department of Health Services of the water supply at Norris . r i PELLETREAU 8& PELLETREAU January 22, 1988 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Page 2 . We appreciate your attention to this matter. Very truly yours, TR ' & PELLETREAU John J . t JFH:hmm cc: Counselwoman Jean W. Cochran Counselwoman Ellen Larsen Counselwoman Ruth Oliva counselman George L. Penny, IV Justice Raymond W. Edwards -Bennett---Orlowski;-- J_r-.-,- Chairman of the Planning Board of the Town of Southold Judith Terry, Town Clerk of the Town of Southold Mr . Richard T. Carr lU/11-12 7 7 � f PLA-ZiNING 3UA.IID TO; f O7OU IiQLD S UEEO- XIC -TI TTY Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 November 30, 1987 Judith T. Terry, Town Clerk Southold Town Hall Southold, NY 11971 Re: Richard T. Carr and Joseph A. Wanat Change of Zone request Dear Mrs. Terry: The Planning Board declines to comment on this change of zone request because the applicant so far has not supplied it with crucial information from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services regarding water supply at the Norris property. Consequently, there has been no decision on the allowable yield for the Norris property. The Planning Board feels that the Norris yield figure must be determined before .it can realistically judge the proposed transfer of yield to this new site. I When the applicant provides the requested information, the Planning Board will proceed with its review and send its comments on to the Town Board. Very truly yours, BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR. CIiAIR,iiAN SOUTHOLD TOWN -PLANNING BOARD cc: John J. Hart, Esq. ✓Henry E. Raynor, Jr. RECEIVED JA Nt- 61988 RELLETREAji A PELLETRf AU " COUNTY OF SUFFOLK COPY FOR YOUR NFORMATION PETER F.COHALAN SUFFOLK COUNTY EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DAvIo HARRIS.M.D..M.P.H. • COMMISSIONER TO: Francis J. *lurphv DATE: December 23, 1987 SuTxervisor Town Hall ..�" 53095 Main Rd. Pn Box 1179 Southold, N.Y. 11971 DEC 2 1987 RE: Car.r-T•Tanat - Change of Zone & Norris Estates SC74 1000-112-1.-16 & 1000-122-5-4 & 1000-123-6-2 Dearr1r. Murphy: _...._.. _....... We are in receipt of your letter dated December 18. 1987 concerning the above referenced project. ❑X 1. This Department has no objection to your designation of lead agency status. El2. Insufficient information is available for technical comments. ❑ 3 . There is no record of an application to this Department. ❑ A more accurate project .location is needed. (Suffolk County Tax Map No. ) El. 4 . This Department has received an application and it is : ❑ Complete Incomplete ❑ Other: ❑ 5 . It appears that the project can be served by: Sewage Disposal System ❑ Sewer System and Treatment Works ❑ Subsurface Sewage Disposal System(s ) ❑ Other: WWM-067 COUNTY CENTER RIVtHnEA0.NV. It901 (OVER) ( 516 ) 548-331'. 5. (cont'd) .• ' Water Supply System . [] A Public Water Supply .System Individual Water Supply System(s) [� Other: ® 6. Comments : The Health Department's primary environmental concern pertaining to development is that the applicant comply with the requirements of the Suffolk County Sanitary Code especially Articles V and VI, and relevant construction standards for water supply and sanitary sewage disposal. These considerations are to be reviewed completely at the time of application. Full considera- tion in placement of water supply wells and disposal systems is given to State and Town wetland requirements. The Health Depart ment maintains jurisdiction over final location of disposal and well systems and the applicant should not undertake to construct any water supply or disposal system without Health Department approval. Other portions of the Suffolk County Sanitary Code also apply to commercial development such as Articles. VII and XII. The Lead Agency is requested to forward a copy of this form to the applicant with its findings. Applications have been received for both the Carr and Norris Estates Subdivisions. Twenty-five residential parcels are proposed for Norris Estates and 95 parcels for the Carr Subdivision. Individual water supply wells and sewage disposal facilities are proposed for both projects. This Department is awaiting test well and test hole results, prior to processing the application further. The proposed population densities appear to be in conformance with Article VI of the Suffolk County Sanitary Code. Further comment may be provided upon, completion of the application review. Name 2 n c �. �s -✓<< �� Phone 548-3312 . YOUNG 0& YOUNG JA�,1 / 400 08TRANDER AVENUE 2 1988 RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK zrgor 516-727-2303 ALDEN W.YOUNG HOWIARD W.YOUNG Poof mional Engineer 9P Land Surveyor Land. Surveyor January 19, 1988 Town of Southold Planning Board Southold, New York 11971 ATT: Ms. Valerie Scopaz RE: Norris Estates Camp Mineola Road Mattituck, T/0 Southold, N.Y. Richard Carr (Wanat) Bergen Avenue Mattituck, T/0 Southold, N.Y. Dear Valerie: I met with you in early December to briefly discuss the above captioned subdivisions in hopes of obtaining your input prior to formal submission. At that time, ' I left a copy of each of the subdivisions with you, and the understanding that you would review and com- ment on these projects. Please let me know if any progress has been made, or if you need any additional data from us. Very truly yours, Howard W. Young HW /kak Encl . cc: Mr. Richard Carr Mr. David Saland t y - ✓ PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V. SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S. PELLETREAU JOHN J. HART 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 (1891-1943) JOHN J.;ROE,111 RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL.516 475-5656 ROBERT H. PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN OF COUNSEL VANESSA M. SHEEHAN* BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG *ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA January 16, 1987 Hon. Francis J . Murphy Supervisor Town of Southold Old Main Road Mattituck, New York 11952 Council Members : Hon. Jean W. Cochran P.O. Box 285 Southold, New York 11971 Hon. Raymond W. Edwards P.O. Box 511 Fishers Island, New York 06390 Hon. George L. Penny, IV P.O. Box 57 Greenport, New York 11944 Hon. James Schondebare P.O. Box 1018 Southold, New York 11971 Hon. Paul Stoutenburgh Skunk Lane Cutchogue, New York 11935 Mr . Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Chairman Town of Southold Planning Board Southold, New York 11971 Re: Norris Estates Dear Supervisor Murphy, Council Members and Mr. Orlowski : This letter is intended to provide you with an update on the status of our preparation of the traffic impact study for the proposed Norris Estates Condominiums . k 7 T y r PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU January 16, 1987 Supervisor Murphy, Council Members and Mr. Orlowski: Re: Norris Estates Page 2. Dunn Engineering, P.C. , collected detailed traffic engineering data during August, 1986 . Included in this data were: (a) 24 hour machine counts; and (b) intersection turning movement counts . It should be noted that the August traffic conditions generally represent the highest traffic in this section of the Town of Southold. At present, they are completing their detailed intersection capacity analyses at the surrounding intersections . They are also addressing the concerns of the community as expressed by the residents in relation to Camp Mineola Road and the access location for the site. Based upon preliminary findings, it is anticipated that the proposed development will have no adverse traffic impact on the adjacent roadway network. Detailed analyses and conclusions are attached hereto. If you have any questions, or require any other information, please contact me. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU 4 b . Joh J . Hart JFH:hmm Encl . lU/9-10 4 ' ,JAN 2 0 � � A T T A C H M E N T # 1 MACHINE TRAFFIC COUNTS AUGUST 1986 BUNN ENGINEERING, P.C. 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'INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEbJ Sv FFcI_�'- V E��E @ mpq,TzArTcOkA TZoAQ DATE _ �5-gCP TIME NEW SuFFoLr— AQEhj%:£ DAY ' S�G`` 33 COMPILED BY �Z • �`l1 METHOD OF COUNT �- Narth TRAFFIC CONTROL p. % iZ ^? 7 2 hrF v T 1 _ NC-W SuF�� A�E�u E l DUNN ENGINEERING .` P . C . WESTHAMPTON BEACH . N . r V thlULt V ULUM-t VU yT .JNTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NNW Mq Z7 4TC Y A TZoAI� DATE 0 TIME NElrt S�FFc�,� A�Eti►�:E D A Y 5ATU2DAl N COMPILED BY -aZ _ W N METHOD OF COUNT �-- North w o � TRAFFIC CONTROL 71 c � p 8 G G � N �u o N N NeU:i SU► rC1_!L Am6kjoE f DUN.N ENGINEERING , P . C . WESTHAMPTON BEACH . N . ' VChIUL � / VLUiVlC C.� V 1N ' ERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEW SUFFOLK AMEWE @ MALQa100KA V.0 D D A T E T I M E 17.I p:rn WEW S ur-V oLK AQ6... D A Y SATYR ORS lrCOMPILED BY tl� 0 METHOD OF COUNT ,. ��. North P► (p TRAFFIC CONTROL 3 � a 49 Z`� 70 o ro 0 93 Z °o D 2Z 713 yy iy 38 � 8 � v � d Lu v w Q Uu " NE1J.1 Su�TOLr D U N N ENGINEERING ; P . 0 WESTHAMPTON BEACH . N . ', V crMiLtz V ULUMt Vvr ; INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION mF\y SuFFOLu/- AENVE @ MN?-SZN-\00Y-A goP%D D A T L• '7-l� to TIME 1-7 pT�;. NSW Sl1FFo�K q�E. DAY 5A-rU2pp,,4 COMPILED EY METHOD OF COUNT �- North = o W _ TRAFFIC CONTROL O p. o f3 9 s S3 > ZO 73 3� to ZS wl I rF o y v � J 1 N N N W DUNN ENGINEERING , P . C. WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . - VEHICLE OLUM-E C0 " T INTERSECTION -TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEW SUFFOO� AVENUE @ MACLQAJcOYCA 'ROAD DATE _B*Cp TIME 2-3P.M NEW SU;:;:CLV- A46. D A Y 5A'tuR0pt COMPILED . BY ' s METHOD OF COUN.T �- North _ TRAFFIC CONTROL tn 70 p 9 v ® zc 0 3 13 o 7 g v � J .o iv .o DUNN ENGINEERING , P . 0 WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . ' VF- HIGL. E VOLUME COI7JT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEW SUFFOLK- ANENVE (2 cAAZQAA-\ooKA 7.c D DATE' .. _�l _ BCD T I ME NEW S Ul,'r-QLK A\)E. DAY SA"t uR OI�� COMPILED BY cr METHOD OF COUNT `�- North CID N w TRA F F I(C CONTROL w � 3 3 3 3� 4 �� b O ® Y0 O 710 Z$ t d Z3 t4 G s DUNN ENGINEERING , P . 0 WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . VEHICLE — ' 0LUME C _O _1T IN ;' ERSECTIO�N TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NE�rj. S�FFOL(� AV�t�VE MA��q�O�KA go►�D DATE TIME NEW SDr-FOLI- q\JE. D A Y 5A'Tu7C)pt nt COMPILED BY N METHOD OF COUNT North TRAFFIC CONTROL N -J Q? J � L 3 A 9 a p n 00 > 13 70 38 1S 3 0 ,d c - 0 DUNN ENGINEERING , P . 0 WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . ' VEHICLE" -VOLUME CO _ 'NT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEW SUFFOL;1 A\IENVE @ MA?-?.AlooKA SzoAD DATE -7�jC17$(p TIME 5.(�,�r• New S Vi:FOLK Aq6- D A Y SA'Tu?Opts na COMPILED BY cn v' METHOD OF COUNT • J �- North c� TRAFFIC CONTROL • � �ioP �v���s 10 37 g ! 70 A 3 9 v 6d 3'1 0 D 12 70 Z3 6I rF c 5 � � � d v o � v w .a .o • w a� NEy,1 5u'FrO��C �rVE. i R. DUNN ENGINEERING , P - C WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . VEHICLE VOLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEW SUFFoI.y AVENUE (2? A\ZWM DRX\IE DATE -I-�g-Sb TIME NEW 50FFOLK A\IC-W )E D A Y _SATVR�A�� COMPILED BY 'v. S.K- METHOD OF COUNT North v J TRAFFIC CONTROL 6�' N 61ol� 516o D IL 710 IZ � S � IZ m L 0 d J N Q, � NEW SuFFOti.K F1t1E1�vE . DUNN ENGINEERING , P . C . WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . Y . VEHICLE VOLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION n1EvJ Sc ARWAI DZ\W- DATE 9-_ TIME NC-W SU AQG . DAY _SANU�DA-I COMPJLED BY S.K. N — N W METHOD OF 'COUNT North w Go TRAFFIC CONTROL 13 _N G N NEW SU��OLjC A�1C- . DUNN ENGINEERING , P . C . WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . Y . VEHICLE VOL-UME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION !y�W S�FFOL� ,4yE t\;V E AIQ-W A� DrZIQE DATE 1-i9-�%,[✓ TIME •i-Z PM. A NEW SvFFOLK ACE. D A Y SATk; A IComp LED BY r� �a v METHOD OF COUNT ' N North s TRAFFIC CONTROL 9 33 .`5 N . G rn co l� ' N N ' x N NEW S�FFi'sLf' ,�vE D U N N ENGINEERING , P . C . WE'STHAMPTON BEACH , N . Y . VEHICLE VOLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NE\J,1 SUFFOL1L DATE -7--19-e)b TIME2-37N1 ,.1CU� S��Fi�(� AvENuC- D A Y SATui2DA j ��..� COMPJLED BY SiG r� N W METHOD OF COUNT North s _ G TRAFFIC CONTROL S � G N N 1 new suF'�:Uic AvEN3uC DUNN ENGINEERING , P - C . . WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . Y . VEHICLE VOLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION �E�l SUF�Or_�G MGN IOE C AkRZW -j DRIVE DATE -1- 0-8b TIME '3-4 N&tJ SUi=GO .K AQ&kj EE DAY SkTu ZDA� COMPJLED BY 5.4. METHOD OF COUNT c North TRAFFIC CONTROL s oP sic") t 3 � • Ig � Ny � i • m v �n p r t31 DUNN ENGINEERING , P . C . WESTHAMPTO.N BEACH , N . Y . VEHICLE VOLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEW SUF(=OLIL NEWe A 42W41 DRIvC- DATE "�-�9-�(o TIME 'y"-S p.►�. tJEvJ `�J�FULIL fWE►•� DAY sATu[LDA� COMPILED BY N - S.K• s METHOD OF COUNT N North TRAFFIC CONTROL WO 7 zo — a m w c J N J DUNN ENGINEERING , P . C . WESTHAMPTON BEACH ,. N . Y . VEHICLE VOLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEW 507_��OLK AQE?JVE @ A%RWAI DRIVE DATE - -19-8b TIME vEvW S'Jri:OLK A\ CG.� DAY _ S ATOgoAj COMPJLED BY 5.K• w METHOD OF COUNT C North °' N 10 TRAFFIC CONTROL D Z5 � C i3 G in Ln O G 1N .. T N rm7C S�G�-OLIC AMC DUNN ENGINEERING , P . C . WESTHAMPTON BEACH, N . Y . s VEHICLE VOLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVE MENTS L O C A T 10 N l<R AUSS P-D , a CAMP 1-1WE4_*lL A •RD. DATE 7,Ze, $B6 TIME D A.Y MoNj[)m cAHI > MIr J EOLA 'Rc> COMPILED DY V .D METHOD OF COUNT -North - a .TRAF'FIC CONTROL G - TZ G Zq O Tj 6 N N i CAN►? ,-�wE���- 'R!; DUNN ENGINEERING , P . 0 WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . VEHICLE OLUIUIE COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS L O C A T 10 N K R AOS S 'R D Co, C E}NP MINC--OLA Q p DATE -7.28-8b TIME 8-44." D A Y _ mm)CA P CAKIP M\MECLIc 'MCA-b I COMPLED BY • 1C D W METHOD OF COUNT North N TRAFFJC CONTROL• C. 15 cn V) �1 Z 7d q Z7 2 io .t Q N t • s _ C�tt-�P �cNEo�.4 'Rc�o DUNN ENGINEERING , P . 0 WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . VEHICLE ✓ OLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS L O C A T 10 N KcAv55 -eD , c, CAHp Ml&lEaLA RD. DATE 7.29.8b TIME D A Y TUC-S DA J CAMP HlNEOLi} WA-D COMPJLED BY p • — METHOD OF COUNT North o TRAFFIC CONTROL . 0 0 A V, 2 4 �O �l _ 3-s N �O I CARP t• WECLA tZCAC> DUNN ENGINEERING , P . 0 WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . VEHICLE OLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS L O C A T 10 N KRM5-S. Rb. @ CARP MiMeCLA 1w , DATE '7.29.8b TIME D A Y -rUEG bAj CAM ' N kME-OLA ' -oA:D COMPILED BY Kp METHOD OF COUNT North - TRAFFIC CONTROL 34 I 2� ZS w C c' N • w w tcAm'p Mkk?C CLA j2LPrb DUNN ENGINEERING , P . 0 WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . :;VEHICLE OLUfV1E COUIV - INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION Nc-vl) SUFFOLK- A\1E RT ZS DATE -7-1e-61b TIME 7-8 A.M. 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VEHICLE tOLUME COUNT ° INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEW SUF�OLIC 1��1C-I�;vE @ izovTE ZS DATE TIME 0 A Y - RNbA,/ 0000 COMPILED BY METHOD OF COUNT North TRAFFIC CONTROL C �oZ 52.9 5610 G lyos 12�11 rj N - 803 W O W J NE\J So-j:FOLK A,1C-m E I DUNN ENGINEERING , P . C . WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . Y . VEHICLE VOLUME CO NT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS L O C A T 10 N N JEW A,IENLE C To07E 25 DATE -7-19-86 TIRE D A Y SATvQL�A� COMPILED BY LP METHOD OF COUNT North TRAFFIC CONTROL s C 63 C 539 5E{� G m 30 -t Iszz m 1363 �?92 760 �q 111 1.3 2- `o W - -rAr s 6' N ' N - NEW SuFFOL K AQENu'E DUNN ENGINEERING , P . C. WESTHAMPTON BEACH , N . Y - 1 VEHICLt VOLUME COUNT INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENTS LOCATION NEW Sv�FOLK A�iE�I�E @ 1ZOV�E ZS DATE 7-19-eb TIRE DAY S. TUR Uly� COMPILED BY Lp METHOD OF COUNT North TRAFFIC CONTROL. • • . �b SioP S�Ur� 54N Si$ 554 G f�l •3 6 -� C�143) T 129 7 ul 837 r3I J W Q' 4F- -j J L O r1EW SJFFOI-� ME. DUNN ENGINEERING . P . C. WESTHAMPTON BEACH . N . 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Saturday Peak Hour (12-1 PM) Development Enter Exit Enter Exit Enter Exit Townhouses 7 35 35 17 25 21 �1 SITE GENERATED TRAFFIC BAN 2 ^D PELLETREAU & PEL iETREAU PETER V. SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLC, ;S AT LAW ROBERT S. PELLETREAU JOHN J. HART 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 (1691-1943) JOHN J.ROE,III RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 (1950-1960) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE TEL. 516 475-5656 ROBERT H. PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN OF COUNSEL VANESSA M. SHEEHAN* BENJAMIN L.HERZWEIG .AL50 ADMITTED IN FLORIDA January 15, 1987 Mr . Bennett Orlowski, Jr . Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Southold, New York 11971 RE: Norris Estates Mattituck, New York 11952 Dear Mr. Orlowski : Enclosed please find a copy of the letter sent to the Town of Southold Board Members on January 7, 1987 regarding the above property. We are forwarding this to you for your information. Very truly yours. PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU J et F. Haeberle Legal Assistant JFH:hmm Enclosures lU/8 PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETER V. SNYDER ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ROBERT S. PELLETREAU JOHN J. HART 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 1159I-19431 JOHN J. ROE,111 _ RICHARD A.SCHOENFELD FREDERIC L.ATWOOD PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 (1060-1980) J.TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T.WALLACE TEL.5I6 475-5656 'ROBERT H. PELLETREAU KEVIN A.SEAMAN OF COUNSEL VANESSA M. SHEEHAN• BENJAMIN L.HERZWEI3 -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA January 7. 1987 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Supervisor Town of Southold Old Main Road Mattituck, New' York 11952 Council Members: Hon. Jean W. Cochran P.O. Box 285 Southold, New York 11971 Hon. Raymond W. Edwards P.O. Box 511 Fishers Island, New York 06390 Hon. George L. Penny, IV P.O. Box 57 Greenport, New York 11944 Hon. James Schondebare P.O. Box 1018 Southold, New York 11971 Hon. Paul Stoutenburgh Skunk Lane Cutchogue, New York 11935 Re: Norris Estates Dear Supervisor Murphy and Council Members : This letter is being written to you in connection with the application of Richard Carr to develop the Norris property in accordance with its present zoning and with that proposed in - the new master plan. This particular parcel, which was the object of prolonged and expensive litigation and on which the developer has expended great sums of money, has been tested and re-tested so that it PELLETREAU PELLETREAU Re: Norris Estates Page 2 January 7, 1987 can provide for the Hamlet of Mattituck; within the constraints of the Hamlet Density zoning, the residential density appropriate to the area: As you are aware, at the time of the original zoning, there was a restrictive covenant filed running with the land which binds subsequent owners of both the parcel rezoned for multiple density and that remaining in the Norris estate. The overall density proposed will be 1. 6 units per acre on the entire parcel . This density is substantially lower than the density in the. existing housing to the south of the premises. H2M, the consulting engineers, have been diligent in addressing the concerns voiced by the residents to the south concerning the effect upon the surrounding community of the proposed development with respect to water supply- and sewage disposal . It is interesting to note that the proposed use will consume less water than that used in the past for farming purposes . Projections, assuming full time occupancy of each of the units indicate there would be a net water usage of 21, 372 gallons per day. In fact, a study made of similar units within the Town of Southold indicates that the full time occupancy rate is only 15%. or 3 ,206 gallons per day. There have been a number of wells drilled on the property. The proposed primary well will be located in the northeast quadrant of the easement area. Based upon the projected drawdown of water (using 21. 372 gallons per day) , there is no measurable effect on the water supply. The engineers have also concluded that there will be no discernable impact upon Lake Maratooka . (In arriving at these conclusions, the engineers used, not the 15% occupancy rate, but a full time 100% occupancy rate. ) The wells drilled indicate the following. Water is reached at 20 feet; the water, sand and gravel stratum continues for another 50 feet - there is then another 50 feet of clay. The depth of the clay stratum has not been plumbed. The depth of the clay lense would mitigate against any salt water intrusion. There has been continuing correspondence between the Suffolk County Department of Health Services and' H2M concerning water quality, quantities of water , ground water levels and i PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Re: Norris Estates Page 3 January 7, 1987. contours . H2M has concluded that the project is good from a water supply viewpoint since it offers a nucleus or base for public water in the area. The Suffolk County Department of Health Services has requested (1) that the project be coordinated with the Suffolk -County Water Authority; (2) that the engineers evaluate the impact of the proposed water supply pumpage on the quantity and quality of neighboring private wells; and (3) that they evaluate pump test data to determine effects of pumpage on the movement of the fresh-water/salt-water interface; and (4) that there be an evaluation of the proposed sewage treatment ground water discharge on private wells . It is apparent that the County of Suffolk Department of Health Services is diligent in insuring that the interests of the residents of the community are addressed. There will not be approval of any proposal without satisfactory determination of the water and sewage issues . There is an existing mechanism which addresses the issues raised by those in the community who oppose the .present zoning and the master plan. The Town and the courts have recognized the need in the community for the Norris site development. Hamlet density has wisely been provided for in the Hamlets of the Town of Southold. Most of the proposed increased density use is east of the Hamlet of Mattituck. There are residents in the Hamlet of Mattituck who would welcome the kind of housing that is proposed on the Norris site. No site is perfect. Any application will be met with opposition by someone. There is, unfortunately a "not in my backyard" syndrome which would eliminate all change. This attitude is understandable, but not defensible. There is a need for the kind of housing which is proposed on the Norris site and there are adequate safeguards already in place which will insure that the residents of the adjoining properties are not adversely affected in any measureable way. Rather, the values of adjoining properties will be enhanced by a first rate, first class development with its own water system and with its own tertiary sewage treatment plant . The sewage treatment plant will produce an effluent which must meet drinking water standards . The effluent will be returned to the ground in an area at the northern end of the property so PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Re: Norris Estates Page 4 January 7, 1987 that the southeast flow will by-pass any residential areas presently existing to the south. We will, as other data is received from the va.rious engineers and consultants, pass the information on to you. Thank you for your attention and concern. incerel_y rs, r J . HART JJH:ma 01C(2-5)