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SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.4
Telephone SO 5-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Charles Gregonis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Fred Hulse; Jr.
M I N U T"E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN -BOARD OF APPEALS
July 23, 1964
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of-Appeals was
held at 7:30 P.M. , Thursday, July 23, 1964z. at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Robert' W. Gillispie,. Jr. , Chairman,
Robert Bergen, Fred Hulse, Jr.
Absent: Serge' Doyen,, Jr. ,. Charles Grigonis,_ Jr.
]PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 694 - 7:30 P.M. (E.D.S.T. ) ,, upon
application of Henry-R. Jacobi,. Sr. , Pequash .Avenue, Cutchogue,
New York, for recognition of access .in accordance with the State
of New York Town Law, Section 280A. . Location of 'property: east
side Private- right-of-way, off south side Soundview Avenue, Southold,.
New York, bounded north by Soundview Avenue, east by McDonough,
south by I.C.. Latham, west by Spurway. Fee paid $5.00.
The- Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
recognition of access, legal notice of hearing,, affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the
applicant.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
recognition_ of access, legal notice of hearing, affidavit- attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the
applicant.
THE`CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present- who -wishes to speak in
favor of this applicantion?
(There was no response,.)
The Board briefly discussed the access. Mr. Terry,- building
inspector stated that the access -had the approval of' the- County.
THE' CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present wish . to speak against
this application?
(There .was no' response. )
.After. investigation and inspection the Board finds that Norma
Grzesik request recognition of access on a 15 foot right-of-way
on the north side of North Road,, Greenport, New York. The Board
finds that this was a longer than usual lot,, and was divided into' _.
two lots. The right-of-way is .needed-to reach the rear lot. . The
Board finds that the' County has given approval for this access to
come out on the North Road. The Board finds that the access will
be accessible to fire trucks and other emergency equipment.
The Board finds that strict application of 'the Ord nance 'will
produce practical difficulties or ' unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike
in the immediate vicinity .of this property and in the same use
district;- and the variance does observe the spirit of the Ordinance
and will not change the character of the district._
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse,' it was
RESOLVED that-N.orma Grzesik, 245� So. 8th Street, Lindenhurst,
New York, be granted recognition of access on property located north
side North Road '(CR 27A) ,, Greenport, New York. It is the Board's
understanding that the existing cabin on the property will no longer ,
be used as a residents..
Vote of the Board:. Ayes:- Mr.. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
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THE' CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present-who wishessto speak in
favor of this application?
(There was no response. )
Mr. Jacobi was present-.at the meeting but he had nothing to
add to the application.
THE'CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone proent who wishes to speak
. against;- this application?
(There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that Henry
Jacobi, Sr. , request recognition of access on a private road off
the south side of Soundview Avenue., Southold, New York. The Board
finds that the road has been used by commercial enterprises to reach
their sand and -gravel pits. The road is 50 feet wide, and in good
usable condition. The road is accessible to fire trucks and other
emergency equipment.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance will
produce practical difficulties or 'unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not-be shared by all properties alike
in the immediate vicinity of this property and in the same use
district; and the variance does observe the spirit- of the' Ordinance
and will not change the character of the district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it- was
RESOLVED that Henry R. Jacobi,. Sr. , Pequash Avenue, Cutchogue,
New York, be granted recognition ofaccess on property located
east side private right-of-way, off south side ' Soundview Avenue,
Southold, New York.
Vote of theBoard: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie,, Mr, Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 695 ; - 7:40 P.M. (E.D.S.T. ) ,, upon
application of Norma Gresik, 245 ' So. 8th Street, Lindenhurst, New
York, for recognition of access in accordance with the State of
New York Town Law, Section 280A. . Location of property: north side
North Road, (CR 27A) , Greenport, New York, bounded north by -Long
Island Sound, east-by -P. Bendricksen, south by North Road-J. Grzesik,:
west by M. Blackman. Fee paid $5. 00.
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On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the- Southold Town Board of Appeals
dated July 9, 1964, be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr., Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 696 - 8: 00 P.M. '(E.D.S.T. ) ,, upon
application of Stanley S. . Corwin,. Esq. ,, 443 Main Street,, Greenport,,
New York, a/c Athanasios and Helen Spinthourakis, Main Road, East
Marion, New York, for a special exception in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III,- Section 300,, Subsection la,. for
permission to convert a building into a two-family dwelling. Location
of property: south west corner 'Main Road and- Orchard'Lane, East
Marion, New York, bounded north by Main Road, east by Orchard
Lane, south by-Spinthourakis, west by.-A.G. Doyle. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
special exception,, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting;
to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the
applicant.
THE'CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak in
favor of this application?
STANLEY 'CORWIN, ESQ. : I am attorney and agent for the applicant.
Let me submit to the Board that this is the type of house that the
Board, and I mean the Town Board, made the change in the Ordinance
to permit a two family house. The Ordinance was originally drawn
up to permit only a one family house in the residential area. Now
the Board finds that this presents difficulties. The owners of the
house will be better off withaan opportunity to convert into a two
family house. We submit that this type of thing was made possible
by the amendment to the Ordinance. This is a very large dwelling
and thereiis no reason why it shouldn't develope into a two family
dwelling. I submit that the Board take this iniv consideration.
I submit .that there are many similar houses in this area and
some of. them..a lower grade. Many of these uses in the area are
non-conforming uses. I assume that a large number' of the people
here in this room are here for the purpose to speak in opposition
to this application. I submit that the .dwelling is on a rather
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large lot and has sufficient square footage to meet all the side
yard, rear yard requirements, etc. The property is on the main
highway. I submit that this is to be used as a two family .dwelling
and that is all.
I also submit that there is. -.a• personal objection to this from
the people in.. this room; Theses personal objections were extended
in a previous application of Spinthourakis. It doesnat:make any
difference who the owner-of the property is. If the application
was being made by some of these people here tonight, I'm sure there
would not be any objection to it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who would like to speak in
favor of this application?
. (There was no response. )
](The Chairman explained that Mr. Corwin would have a chance to
rebut after the agruments against the application are heard. The
Chairman also explained that the wanted to give everyone' a chance to.
speak, however, the Board is only interested in facts and not .personal
feelings or opinions. )
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak against
this application?
'RENNETH SLOCUM, ESQ. : I appear 'here in opposition to this
application, first- as an attorney formany of the residents of
East Marion. I am also here as a resident and property -owner of
East Marion myself. I will try to stick as much to the actual
facts as possible. . First of all, I want to introduce for evidence
and the consideration of the Board a petition of opposition of 90
peolple who are residents and property owners of'East Marion and who
oppose this application. Mr. Corwin ask you to take notice of the
favorable facts, and that this application is being opposed because
of who the applicant is. I ask you to take a look- at the map in
front of you and see where the applicant owns land in between and
the applicant- also owns the Blue Dolplin, and the present property
which they are asking` to be rezoned to a two family dwelling.
I don't- think that many of the people here toniglit disagree
.that -old houses should have some relief. I wish to call the Board's
attention to the fact that the present application,, and I don't care
who they area except that it has to be tied in with the B1ue' Dolplin,
when they made their application before the Town Board in 1958,and
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I quote from it that they had purchased this house in order to
rent rooms and they found they could not rent to more than four
without a "M" Multiple Residence Classification. They stated
that we now find we can only rent to four and we have facilities
for 10. I see there was a direct impression there because they
,now have facilities that are enjoyed by 50 to 60 people.
THE CHAIRMAN: Your are stating that as a fact?
KENNETH SLOCUM,ES¢. :. Yes, as a fact. You can ride by- there
and count the number of people-, sitting on the front porch They
certainly don't all belong in one family. I point out to this
Board that this is an overcrowding of land. They will make the
same thing out .of this as they have at -the Blue'Dolplin. If the
applicant had set abetter example with the Blue Dolplin, surely
the people would not `be so objectional to this present, application.
This is a little country village, but if we allow this sort
of thing to come into the village, it will become an area of
"honkey took". I respectfully submit that this application should
.be denied.
THE' CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who would like to speak
against this application?
(There were about 35 residents of 'East Mation present at
. this hearing to object to this application. They all had similar
feelings against this application. They opposed the noise and
the overcrowding of the Blue Dolplin, also owned by the applicant,
and this reflected on the kind of two family, dwelling that would
be run by the applicant. )
Mrs. .Mary Ann Dzenkowski felt that this dwelling was converted
a long time ago and made facilities for sleeping quarters. Peter
Dykovitz complained of the noise which comes from the Blue Dolplin
and he felt- there should be some sort of Ordinance on noise. Mr.
Thorp wanted to know what could be done if this application was
granted for a two family house, however, the applicantocontinued to
house more than two families. The Chairman explained that the matter
should be reported to the Building Inspector, who will file the
information with the local justice of the peace. The applicant will
have to take care of the violation. Edward Schafer felt that a two
family house would .be down grading to East Marion.
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Henry Kratzke felt that the Ordinance should protect the people' of
East Marion and this sort of thing should not be allowed. He also
felt that there should be some sort of Ordinance on noise. The
Chairman explained that it is hard to set- up an' Ordinance for noise.
Mr. Thorp wanted to know what zone the area was. The chairman
explained that it- was a "A" Residential and Agricultural District,
and that two family dwellings were permitted by a special exception
from the Board of:Appeals in this district.Joe Dzenkowski mentioned
a 12 foot right-of-way and wanted to know if it was included in the
application. David Dzenkowski felt that if this,, applicant could
have a two family house than there is no reason why he couldn't have
one also. The Chairman explained that- a special exception is needed
and that Mr. Spinthourakis should not have taken this matter in his
own hands.
Peter' Dykovitz felt that- the Ordinance should be enforced a
little stronger. He feels that- the Ordinance says you can't do
such and such, and then some people do as they please anyway. The
Chairman asked Stanley Corwin,. Esq. how wide the piece of:property
was. Mr. Corwin described it and its boundries. The Chairman asked
if it extended over to the "M" zone. Mr. Corwin said he beleives
it goes along the property. 'The Chairman asked if there were any
other questions, and there was no response. The Chairman then. stated
the Stanely Corwin,. Esq.. would have his chance to rebut. Mr. Corwin
again stated that this application was fora two family house and
nothng more. Mr.. Corwin stated that there is nothing in any law
that- says you can not have 15 bedrooms and 10 bathrooms if you want.
He stated that this application was for a two family house. The
Chairman asked why Mr. Spinthouraks hadn't first gotten a permit
before converting the house. Mr.. Corwin explained, as it -is on the
application, that-the house was run down when bought by the applicant,
and while fixing it up they added certain facilities which prompted
the building inspector to declare 'it a two family dwelling. The
Chairman asked the building inspector to testify as to wka.t he found
while inspecting the applicant's premises. Howard Terry, Building
Inspector, stated that he inspected the premises and found that
the building had facilities for a two family dwelling. However,
he stated when he was there,there was no evidence of overcrowding
of land. Mrs. Warren asked when he was there, and he said during
the week. She suggested that he come on a weekend and he would find
an overcrowding of land then.
There was some discussion about when. a permit is needed to
build. Mr. Slocum stated that it was his understanding that a
permit was required from the building department before they could
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do any work on the exterior of the house. The' Chairman said that
he was correct. That- a permit was need for exterior alteration of
the house. It seems that an outside stairway has been added to the
house in question. Th.e' Chairman explained that it wasn't necessary
to have a permit for the interior of the house. However, if the
exterior of the house was expanded at all a permit is required.
Mrs. Doyle, the immediate adjacent property owner was not
able to attend the meeting to express her opinions, Mr. Hulse
asked -Mr.. Slocum if he represented Mrs. Doyle. He said that-he
did not represent her, however her .name maybe on the petition.
THE' CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions in connection with
this application?
(There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: Does anyone else wash to speak- against this
application?
(There was no response, )
. THE 'CHAIRMAN: Is• there anything one way or the other .,on this
application?
(There was no response. )
After the hearing the members of the-:Board held an executive
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session in which they reviewed the factsof the case and then made
their final decision.
Under=.Article VIII, Section- Cr the Board is required to grant,
or deny a special exception, giving particular attention Section (a) ,
1-12,. and to the end of'Section- C. Findings of the Board are as
follows: In reference to Article VIII, Section-C,. (1) (a) (1) 1. In
the Board's opinion the use of this property by the applicant will
effect the orderly and reasonable use of adjacent property in the
.,residential area. Under Subsection (3) the proposed use will
effect the order of the Town of'Southold .and the Board is •opposed to
a further extension of- a use which will permit more than one family
to occupy premises. The fact that- the applicant has converted a
dwelling without permission, from a one family residence to a two
family residence as pointed out-by the Building Inspector during
testi.mony, . is a self-imposed hardship, and not a point to be considered
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Wyy this Board. Under/section (4) The proposed use will not in the
Board's opinion promote the general purpose of the Ordinance;
specifically it will tend to increase and enlarge the adjacent
-Blue Dolphin Inn facilities,owned also by the applicant and used
as a transient multiple residence. A use which is objected to by
local residents presently, because of noise and overcrowsing.
Under' Article VIII, Section C, Subsection (b) (1) , it seems
to the Board that the character of the proposed use maybe
suggested by the conduct of the applicantIs business to the west,
zoned ' I'M" Multiple Residence-District, as' noted above. This
would affect future adjacent legal uses. Under subsection (2) ,
conservation of property values in the area would be adversely
-affected by this. , Testimony at the public hearing indicated
excessive noise extending to late hours of the night and over-
crowding on owners premises at the Blue Dolphin Inn. Under
subsection (10) from personal observation of members of' the Board,
. and from testimony of neighbors, indications are: There are
sometimes as many as 40 to 50 people on the owners premises at
the Blue' Dolphin Inn, representing in the Board's opinion anc;
overcrowding of land. Overcrowding can be an undesirable develop-
ment either on a permanent or transient basis.
- An estimated 35 residents of East Marion appeared in person
to object to the granting of this application, and Kenneth Slocum,
Esq. , attorney for ' some of the residents of East Marion, presented
a petition registering a firm protest and opposition to the application
with 90 signatures of residents of:East Marion.
The East Marion residents object from personal experience and
first hand observation based on knowledge acquired in observing
the conduct .of the business of the Blue Dolphin Inn,. over the
past five years.
The Board finds that the 'public convem ceirzn&--4abf,.axeiaind
justice will not be servede and the legally established or per-
mitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts
will be permanently or substantially injured and the spirit of
the Ordinance will not be observed.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that Stanley-S.. Corwin, Esq. , 443 Main Street,
Greenport, New York, a/c Athanasios and Helen Spinthourakis,
Main Road, East Marion, New York, be denied permission to convert
a building into a two family dwelling, on property located
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south west corner Main Road and Orchard Lane, East Marion, New
York.
Vote of the Board: . Ayes:-Mr. ' Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
On .motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the' Southold Town Board of- Appeals set '7:30 P.M.
(E.D.S.T. ) ,. Thursday,. August- 6, 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing upon application
of 'Edward' Abitz, Mattituck, New York,_ a/c Christos Varmava, 95
Seaman Avenue, New York, New York, for a variance in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 306, for permission to
build on a lot with insufficient setback and side yards. . Location
of property: north west corner of Central Drive and Luther' Road,
Lot-#114,. Captain Kidd Estates, Mattituck, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
On motion by Mr. Bergen,. seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 7:40 P.M. ,,
(E.D.S.T. ) , Thursday,- August 6, 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road,
Southold, - New York, as time and place of hearing upon application of
Eva Sinuta, North Road,. Greenport, New York, for a variance in
accordance with the, Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section303,
Article'X,,. Section 1000A, for permission to build on a lot with in-
sufficient area. Location of property: north side North Road (CR"25,-)I_)
Greenport, New York, bounded north by Time Structure, Inc. , east- by
Time Structurp,Inc. , south by North Road, west by Walter' Sledjeski.
vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Gillispie, it was .
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8: 00 P.M.
(E.D.S.T. ) , Thursday, August 6, 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing. upon application of
Going Sign Coinpany, Inc. , 206 Front Street, Mineola, New York for
a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
IV, Section 408,. Subsection (b) , for permission to erect. a sign on
the west- wall of the Bohack building in Mattituck. Location of
property: south side Main- Street, Mattituck, New York, bounded north
by Main Road, east by N. Kouros, south by Reeves Bros. , west by-C.
Howell.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie,, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
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on motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by. Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the• Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8:15 : P.M.
(E.D.S.T. )-,, Thursday, August 6r 1964, at the Town- Office, Main Road
Southold, New York, as time and place' of hearing upon application of
Edward King, Orient, New York, for a special exception in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinances. Article III, Section 300e Subsection 3ae
for permission to build a shed for the storage of boats. Location
of property: east side Narrow River' Road, Oriente New Yorke bounded
north by Edwards 'Estates east by 'Hallock Bay, south by other lands,
of King, west by Narrow River Road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Hulse,. it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of- Appeals set 8:45 ' P.M.
(E.D.S.T-. ) , Thursday, August- 6, 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing, upon application of
Constance Freeman, Main Road, Orient, New York, for a special exception
in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III.,. Section 300,
Subsection la, for permission to convert a one family dwelling into
a two family dwelling. Location -of property: south side Main Road,
Orient,. New York, bounded north by Main Road, east by right-of-way,
south by-R.T.. Spencer, west by-W.. Stromeyer.
Vote .of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
On motion. by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set . 9: 00 P.M.
(E.D.ST. ).,. Thursday, August . 6, 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York, for the time and place of hearing upon application
of Fredrick Gordon, 251 Fifth Avenue, Greenporte. New York,, a/c
Edward Speeches, North Road,, Greenport, New Yorke for a special
exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinancee Article III, - Section
300, Subsection la, for permission to convert a barn into a two
family dwelling. Location of property: north side North Road (CR 27A)
Greenporte New_ York, bounded north by J.M.S. Land & Development
Corp. e east by J.M.S.. Land & Development Corp.-Spicer, south by
North Road-Ebling, west by H. Morrison.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
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On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen., it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of -Appeals set9:.20 P.M.
(E.,D.S.T. ), Thursday, August 6, 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing upon application of
Beachcomber Motel and Restaurant, Inc.., Duck :Pnd Road, Cutchogue,
New York, for-' a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
-Ordinance, .Article III,. Section 300, . Subsection 11, for permission
to e.rect. a directional sign on the -property of:Edward A.- Zuhoski,
Jr. , Location of property: south side Middle Road, Cutchogue, New
York, bounded north by Middle Road, east by J. Haurus, south by
E.A.. Zuhoski, west by J. Simcik.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
In accordance with a letter received from Jamesport:Firemen's
Association, . on motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen,.*
it was
RESOLVED that the Jamesport Firemen's Association be granted
permission to display posters in the Town of' Southold advertising
their Annual Bazaar to be held July 21, thru July 25, 1964. .These
posters will.be removed promptly after the event. It is believed
this is in the public interest.
It is specifically forbidden to place these posters on
utility poles or on private property without permission.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:Mr. Gillispie, Mr.. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
A letter was sent- to Margaret Lipp, . Secretary,- P?aradise
Shores Association, Inc. , in reference to a letter received :
from her concerning the signs in Southold Town. . The Board
thanked her for.'her letter and advised they agree with her
and are aware of the problem of signs.
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The next-meeting of the Southold Town Board of'Appeals
will be held 7s30 P.M. , Thursday, August 6, 1964, at the
Town Office, Main Road,- Southold,, New York.
Meeting adjourned 11;10
Respectfully submitted,
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APPOVED Barbara- L.. Carroza, Secretary
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