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T Southold Town Board of Appeals
SOUTHOLD, L. L, N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Charles Gregonis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Fred Hulse, Jr.
M I N U T E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
December 17s.1964
A" regular" meeting of the-'Southold Town Board of Appeals
was held at".7:30 P.M."a Thursdays.- December 17s. 1964s at the
Town Offices, Main Roads.. Southolds. New York.
There were present: Messrs: Robert-W.. Gillispies. Jr. s,
Chairman; Robert -Bergens, Fred Hulsey: Jr.
Absent: Messrs: . Charles Grigoniss. -Tr.-,,, Serge' Doyenr, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 735 ' - 7:30 P.M.- (E.'S:T:)a; upon
application of Valentine W. Stypes, Main Roads. Mattitucks. New
Yorks for a special. exception in accordance with the Zoning i
ordinancem. Article IIIs, Section 300a. Subsection lls, for 'per-
mission to erect an advertising sign on the property of:Edna
Andrews. Location of property: south side Main Roads. Laurels.
New Yorks bounded north by Main Roads, east by Fleischmann-Kahns.
south by Long Island Railroads; west by Chas. McNulty. Fee paid
$5.00.
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° Southold Town Board of App s -2- December 101964
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a special exceptions, legal notice of hearings, affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspapers. and notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
;(There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
:(There was no response)
After investigation and inspection the 'Board finds that
the applicant wishes to erect an off premises advertising sign.
This sign would be 4 feet by 6 feet', and would read as follows:
"Val W. Stypes, Appraisers, Real Estttes Insurance,; Main Roads
Mattitucks Telephone MAttituck 9-8481 or PE 4-6172". The Board
of Appeals has never in the past granted an advertising business
sign off premises except in the instances of those involving
the furnishing of foods lodgings. and amusement areass, which are
directional signs only. Consequentlys. to grant this privilege
would be to grant a right that is deniedto all others.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will not be served and the legally established
or permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will be permanently or ' substantially injured and the
spirit of the Ordinance will not -be observed.
On motion by Mr. Gillispies seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that Valentine W. Stypes Main Roads Mattitucks
New Yorks be denied permission to erect an advertising sign
on the property of Edna Andrewss. located south side Main Roads
Laurels. New York. ;
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispies, Mr. Bergens, Mr. Hulse.
` Southold Town Board of APP s -3- December 1 1964
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 736 - 7:45 P.,M:{(E:S.T:)�. Upon
application of John Haponic, Southold, New York, a/c Mario Fran-
zone, Arshamomaque Avenue, Southold, New York, for a variance
in accordance with the Zoning ordinance,. Article III,. Section
307, for permission to construct an addition to the existing
dwellin g with insufficient side yard. Location of property:
east side Arshamomaque Avenue, Bexidon' Estates, Lot-#13a, Southold,,
New `Fork. 'Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the appli-
cant.
John Haponic a/c Mario Franzone,_ idenified pictures of the
property in question, .,''
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
;(John Haponic was present,. however had nothing further' to
add to the application itself. The dimensons of the addition
were briefly discussed. )
THE CHAIRMAN: is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant wishes to build an addition to the existing
dwelling with insufficient side yard requirements. It is the
opinion of the Board that the addition to the Franzone house
will not change the character of the neighborhood. The use
of the property will remain an one family dwelling. At its
nearest point to the southerly line,. the proposed addition
will be at . least 12 feet. Since the total area involved is
approximately 21,750 square feet, it is well in excess of
the Zoning mininum requirement for area. There will be no
overcrowding of land. By the construction of this facility.-
the neighboring house to the south is approximately 15 feet
from the line, which is within the present zoning requirements.
Southold Town Board of ArQ s -4- December 1 1964
The Board finds that strict- application of the ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district;, and the variance does observe
the spirit of the- Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district, -
on motion by Mr. Gillispie,. seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED -that John Haponice: Southold,, New York,, a/c Mario
Franzone* Arshamomaque Avenue*, Southolde.- New York, be granted
permission to construct an addition to the existing dwelling
with ,-insufficient. side yard requirements,, on property located
.east side'Arshamomaque Avenue* Bexidon Estate, Lot #13, Southold,,
New York.
Vote of the Board: Ay.gs -jr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No.. 737 - 8: 00 P:M ;(EST) ,, Upon
application of Donald R. Gildersleeve,, Wickham-'Avenue,, Mattituck,
New York,; for a variance in accordance with the� Zoning Ordinance,
- Article III,, Section 303, Article x& Section 1000A,, for permission
to reduce frontage of lot. Location of property: west side
Wickham Avenue, Mattituck,, New York,, -bounded north by`E A . Wood-
ward,. east by'Wickham:'Avenue, south by Annie Tuthill,. west by
John Keogr. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a variance,- legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official ,newspaper, and notice to the appli-
cant. .
THE' CHAIRMAN: , Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application? -
,(Mr.. Donald Gildersleeve was present -at` the hearing: He
had- nothing further to add to the application. It was determined
that the lot in question is approximately 250 feet deep and has
an area of approximately 11h.,,000 square feet- after the applicant
sells 10 feet of the frontage)
THE CHAIRMAN: is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
Southold Town Board of A e s -5-- December 17•1964
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' After - investigation..and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant wishes to sell 10 feet of his property on;Wickham
Avenue to' David and. Barbara-• Tuthill,, adjoining property• owners.
The parcel of land onned by the applicant is approximately 250
feet deep, and 75 feet wide on-Wickham :-Avenue. After the
applicant. sells 10 feet on•Wickham Avenue, he will still have
approximately 17,,000 square feet of area, which is well in
excess of the area requirements of -the Zoning Ordinance. The
Board -is of- the opinion -that. this variance will not in any
way change the character of• the-�.neighborhoode, in view of the
fact that the property in question is being sold to the,
adjoining property owners on the south.
The Board- finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created .is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in .the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will not .change the character
of the; district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it mas
RESOLVED that-Donald•R. Gildersleeves, Wickham -Avenue,
Mattitucks New York, be granted permission to xeduce frontage
of-lot= by -selling 10 feet on :Wickham -Avenuee - Location of -
property: - west side'Wickham-Avenues, Mattitucks New York..
Vote of the Board: •Ayes: Mr: Gillispie&• Mr. Bergene Mr. Hulse.
The Board of= Appeals. again took up the matter of the
Simonsen Estate. This was a hearing upon application of
christi:an Simonsen Estates. Oak and Birch Avenues,- Southold,
New Yorke• fora variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,.
Article iII,,- Section 303, and Article 'Xs. Section 1000A0. for
permission to divide and sell lots with insufficient frontage
and area. Location of property: west side Birch Avenues. east
side" Oak Avenues. Goose Bay Estates,. Lots No; South west' one-half
of 228s, 229e 230, and south west one half of 251s, 252s, 253s. and
254e.. Southold, New York.
_. Southold Town Board of A
_ pp0ls -6- December l0, 1964
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant wishes to divide and sell property with insufficient
frontage and area. ' The Board is in agreement with the reasoning
of the applicant as stated in the application'. . To deny this
division of property would be to deny a privilege that .is enjoyed
by many others in Goose Bay Estates. The Board also. finds .that
the original covenant restrictions for building plots for this
develop4ient. required the purchase of three lots of 20 feet by
120 feet, or in other words, an area of 7,.200 squarer: feet. The
Board also finds that Mr.. Simonsen,: the original owner- ,of this
property. was in possession of the lots that were used to straighten
all .the other- lines- to parrallel position. it is apparent from
this Board='s investigation that the Simonsen' Estate is in possession
of 70 feet on Oak: Avenue,, tapering down to 60 feet in, width and
120 feet. in depth at .the easterly or rear end of the property: It
is also apparent that during the years he owned the property on
Oak' Avenue, he acquired one by one,. lots 230,, 229,, and one half of
16t 228, to the rear. While this Board is not in favor of reducing
the requirements for building lots, it is apparent., in the Boards
opinion, it would be an injustice to deny the division, of this
propertys. acquired prior to the passage of the Zoning Ordinance,,
when many other houses presently exist in the development on lots
which are normally 60 feet by 120 feet.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is uniques, in respect-. to the irregular
- shape of the lots? and would not be shared by all properties
alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and in, the
same use district; and the variance does observe the spirit
of the Ordinance and will not change the character of the
district.
� On motion by Mr. Gillispies, seconded by Mr. Bergen., it was
RESOLVED that the Christian Simonsen Estates; Oak'Avenue,,
and Birch Avenue,. Southoldc, New York,, be granted permission
to divide and sell property with insufficient .frontage and area
on property located ewest- side Birch Avenue, east side Oak
Avenues. Goose Bay Estates,, Lots Nos south west one half :of
228, 229,, and 230,,, and south west one half of 251,,, 2528 253,.
and 254,, Southold,; New York.
vote of the'Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispies, Mr. Bergens Mr. Hulse.
Southold Town Board of App is -7- December A, 964
PUBLIC HEARING:- appeal No. 738 - 8:15' P:M.' (E;'S,'T.;)',. Upon
. application- of Marjorie'Douglass, King Streets; orients. New York,,
;for a variance- in accordance with the Zoning• Ordinance,,. Article
III.,, Section 303,'. 304,, 307,, and Article Xs;'Section 1000A,, for
permission .to divide and .sell property with insufficient front-
-age. . Location of property: south side King Street,, Orient, New
York, bounded north by King Streets. east by- other land .of
Marjorie' Dou.glass�s. south by Robert -Douglass,. west by Nelson
Douglass Estate. Fee paid•#5. 00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a,variance,, legal notice of hearings, affidavit attesting to :its
publication in the official newspaper,_ and notice to ' the appli-
cant,
-THE CHAIRMAN: is there anyone present who wishes to' •speak
for' this application?
- '(,There was no -response..)
-THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present-who wishes to speak
.-against this application?
(There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant-wshes -to divide and sell property with insufficient
frontage and area. The Board finds that the property in question
is-- 59:69 -feet in the front, 58 feet in the rears, and 155. feet
deep. The Board is in complete agreement with the reasoning of
the- applicant as stated in the written application to this Board.
. Specifically,, there. will be no change in the charac.ter' of the
neighborhood. There is no way to enlarge this -lot.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and -in- the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
- on motion by Mr. Gillispie,, seconded by Mr. Bergen,: it was
Southold Town Board of Appeals -8- December 17,, 1964
RESOLVED that..Marjorie'Douglasse, King Street,, Orient, New
Yorks be .granted .permission to divide and sell property with
insufficient frontage .on property located south side King Street,
Orients New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispies. Mr. Bergen,, Mr. Hulse.
PUBLIC .HEARING: - Appeal No, 739 - 8:45' P M:;CEO S;T ').a, Upon.
application. of Lefferts P. Edson,_- Esq.,.- Southold... New York-,, a/c
Lounsberry Estates, Southold, New York,r,, for, a variance in
accordance with the Zoning' Ordinancer, Article III,, Section 303,,
Article 'X,. Section 1000A..., for permission to divide property:
Location of property: north side Soundview-Avenue�r, Southold,
New, York.. bounded .north by Pohl--Lounsberry,, east by other land
of-Lounsberry., south by 'Soundview Avenue.,.., west by other land
of Lounsberry. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the .hearing by reading application for
a v:ar:iance,,, le.gal .notice of .hearing,r affidavit attesting. to its
publication in the official newspapers, and notice to the appli-
cant.
THE' CHAIRMAN:. Is there anyone present who wishes. to speak
in favor of- this application?
LEFFERTS P: EDSONia.' ESQ : I wish to speak for it,.., for 'the
reasons stated in the application.
i.(Mrs. DeP.az gave a brief :history of the ownership .of the
property_ in question. Mr. Lounsberry used to rent the houses
on the property.)
THE.CHAIRMAN: Does anyone else have anything to add to this
application,- or have any questions?
(There was no response.)
TI-E CHAIRMAN: is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
;,(,There was no. response.)
Southold Town Board of Appeals -9- December 17&, 1964
After investigation and inspection the Board finds -that
the applicant. wishes to divide and set off a lot. The Board
is in complete agreement with the reasoning of the applicant .
as stated in .the written application to the Board. This property
will be divided as shown on the survey by Otto Van' Tuyl &'-Sono
dated October 288; 1964.
The Board finds that strict- application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary harclhhip;
the hardship created is unique and would not be .shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the -spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by Mr. Hulsea, seconded by Mr. Bergen&, it was
RESOLVED that Lefferts P.- Edson, Esq.,.., Southold, New York&,
a/c Lounsberry'Estates, Southold,. New York,, be granted permission
to divide property&, property located north side -'Soundview-Avenue&,
Southold, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie,, Mr. Bergena, Mr. Hulse,
The Board next took up the application of=Carl &' Ethel
Besch,m, Mattituck r- New York. This application was for a
riding academy on property located on the' Main Road, Mattituc]�
New York.
. After investigation and inspection the Board finds the
following:
The premises in question consist of approximately 512- acres
of land located on the north side of New York-State Route 25 in
the vicinity of the Hamlet of Mattitucke. The property is bounded
on the north by Long Island Rail Road tracks and right-of-way
and on the south by the aforesaid highway which is one of the
two main highways servicing the North Fork and .the. Town of' South-
o,ld. Lying immediately to the east of the premises is property
owned by one Henry Kernowski upon which a farm vegetable stand
is being operated and .has been so operated for ten to- twelUe years
last past. On the south side of Route 25 ' and in the vicinity
Southold Town Board of App s -10- December 10,1964
of the premises is a real estate office established -in the
Spring .of this year. Applicant stated at- the hearing that
he acquired the property in 1962 and from the date of" pur-
chase has used the premises for the stabling of horses.
Some -of- the horses are owned by the applicant- and occasionally
other horses may -be boarded on the premises for pay. - Applicant
also stated that horses were rented out for riding purposes to
ethers for hire on an hourly.., daily or longer periods of time.
' Applicant stated that he is also in the business of buying and
selling horses and colts and that approximately twenty horses
are maintained on the premises. The buildings used for the
housing of the horses were formerly chicken houses and were
converted for stable use. The applicant has had -a small riding
track bulldozed .on the premises. Upon inspection of the premises
the Board found that the area lying between the highway and the
buildings is completely devoid of 'any vegetation and consists of
bare earth which generates dust. There was testimony taken at the
hearing indicating the existence of flies and unsanitary conditions
which was confirmed by an inspection of the premises by the
Suffolk County Board of Health whose report to this Board also
indicated rodent i.nfestatione improper disposal of manure and
poor stable- conditi:ons, Testimony at the hearing also .indicatel
that the fly problem was injurious to the Vegetable stand business
and real estate office located adjacent to and in the vicinity
of the premises. Mr. Kernowski.a, the owner of the. vegetable stand
testified to a reduction in the volume of his business caused by
the fly problem. There was also testimony at the hearing that
in the summer of, 1964 one of the horses was killed by the Long
Island Rail Road train and that the rider of such horse 'narroww
escapedinjury.. At the hearing the applicant testified that
persons using horses housed on the premises ride the horses on
the premises as well as on the premises to the north and across
the Long Island Rail Road tracks. Applicant stated that permission
to use the premises to the north was obtained from the owners of
said premises. However& upon investigation this Board ascertained
that the owners of said premises lying to the- north have' not -given
permission for the use of thei.r' property for -this purpose and
letters to this effect are on file with this Board,
it is the position of the applicant that-when he acquired
, the premises he had a legal .right to use the same for -the stabling
of horses and that -the only use requireing a special exception
permit is the riding academy use of the premises. At -the time
' -'Southold Town Board of Ap_ -.is -il-- December , 1964
that the applicant acquired the property in 1962,_ the .property
was zoned "A" Agricultural. and-Residential-District, It .is
the., position of the applicant that the stabling of horses is
embraced within the term "agricultural farm" in' Article Ill..,
- Section 300,, Subdivision 4, of the Ordinance. it is this Board8s
opinion that theterm' "agricultural farm" permits only the
raising of crops and uses incidental thereto and does not include
the use of premises for the raising and keeping of animals or
for animal husbandry. When the applicant purchased the property
in 1962 - the use of premises as stables was permitted in the "B"
Business' District pursuant toArticle IV,, Section 400,- Subdivision
10,, of the Ordinance. This Board believes that this position is
borne out -by the fact that in an amendment to Article III and
Article IV. of the Ordinance adopted on July 71, .1964,, ,effective
July 27,, 1964, it permitted "stables and riding academies when
authorized as a special exception by the Board of: Appeals when
hereinafter provided" in the "A" Agricultural and Residential
District. Therefore, this Board believes that the applicant at
no time had a legal' `<Zright to use the premises for 'the present
use without- obtaining a special exception from this Board.'
. From the above,,; this Board .hereby determines:
1) That the proposed use of the premises will prevent- the
orderly and reasonable use of permitted or legally established
.uses in the district- wherein the proposed use is to be located.
2) That the safety,,, the health,, the welfare, .the comfort,
the convenience or the order of the Town will be adversely affected
by the proposed use and its location.
3) That- the use will not be in harmony with and will not
promote the general- purpose and intent of the 'Zoning Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Bergent, seconded by Mr. .Hulse,, it was
-RESOLVED that-Carl &Ethel Besch,, Main Road, Mattituck,,
New York, be denied permission to operate a riding academy
on property located north side 'Main Road, Mattitucka New York.
It. was further'RESOLVED that the use of these premises for
a live-rya, for the raising and keeping of horsesa, stabling of horses,,
or any other form of animal husbandry is hereby denied.
Vote of the Board: - Ayes: Mr. Gillisp�e,, Mr, Bergen,., Mr. Hulse.
• Southold Town Board of App is -12- December �., 1964
A letter was written to Town Attorney$. Robert Tasker
advising him of the lack of supply of the' Southold Town
Building."Zone' Ordinances. The Board thought -that perhaps
he could use his influence to speed up the production of
more copies of the' ordinance,
On motion by 'Mr. Gillispie., seconded by Mr. Hulse., it was
RESOLVED -that the Southold Town Board of Appeals approved
the minutes 4f'December" 3,. 1964t. as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. GillisprLd j. Mr. Bergen., Mr. Hulse.
There were no new applications for the Board of' Appeals.,
therefore, no• date has been set for the next meeting of the
Southold Town Board of- Appeals.
Meeting adjourned 9:40 'P:M.-
Respectfully submitted.,
Barbara L." Carroza. Secretary.
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