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S O UTH O LD, L. I., N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS -
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
'ttET'bEt1"R1i3bTi b�rg
Charles Gregonis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Fred Hulse, Jr.
M I N U T E' S
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
February 20,' 1964
. A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
was held 7:30 P.M. ,, Thursday, February 20, 1964 at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. Robert W. Gillispier Jr. ,
Chairman, Robert Bergen, Charles Grigonis, Jr. , . and Fred Hulse, Jr.
Absent: Mr.. Serge Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 633 - 7: 30 P.M. (E.S.T. ) , upon
application of J. Herbert -Cassidy, Hobart-Road, Southold, New
York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article X,.. Section 1003A, for permission to renew a
labor camp permit. on the property of I-41. Krupski,east side
Bridge Lane, - East Cutchogue, New York, property bounded north
by M. Zanowsk�,, east by- A. C. Davids,, south by P. Bedell,, and
west by Bridge Lane. Fee paid- $5. 00.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -2- February 20, 1964
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper and notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. J. HERBERT CASSIDY, Southold: I wish the permit continued
for another year.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response. )
MR. HULSE: How many do you have in the camp.?
MR. CASSIDY: About 20 or 22.
MR. BERGEN: Have there been any incidents since we granted
this permit?
MR. CASSIDY: Wehave had no problems at all.
The Board of Appeals finds that there are no apparent
objectors to the renewal of this labor camp permit. At the
original hearing in July 1962 16 individuals appeared in opposition
and in January 1963 at the hearing for the first renewal of this
permit only one individual appeared in opposition.
The compelling reason for granting a special exception to
operate this camp as a commercial labor camp still exists by
reason of the elimination of cooperative housing for approximately
200 workers formerly housed at the Greenpott Labor Camp. The
operators of farms conduct thdr operation in various locations
necessitating housing within the general area of operation in
order to perform grading operations to market the crops. Conditions
for the opening of the camp were established by the Suffolk County
Board of Health and involved two new cesspools, new well point,
pump, showers, sheet rocking the entire interior of the 20 ft. by
50 ft. building, as well as new floors, and division into a kitchen
and crew quarters as fetched by the Board of Health. No enlargement
of the original structure was made. ' Mr. Cassidy stated that the
Board of Health . complimented him on the operationof the camp.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -3- February 20, 1964
This camp enables the camp operator, J. Herbert -Cassidy, to
locate a crew far closer to his grading operation than formerly.
The A & P chain operated two large graders in Peconic but their
operation was intermittent during 1962 and the Cassidy grading
facilities were essential for marketing Peconic's major crop,
potatoes.
No complaints regarding this camp reached the Supervisor's
office during the 1962 and 1963 operations.
The Board is in agreement with the general feeling concerning
labor camps, however, we believe that the operation of camps has
vastly improved in recent years and that such camps are a tool as
essential to local agriculture as tractors. Accordingly our findings
have not changed essentially since July 5, 1962 as outlined in our
action of that date based on Appeal No. 481 of J. Herbert Cassidy
and January 3, 1963 as outlined in our action of that date based
on Appeal No. 535 of J. Herbert Cassidy.
On motion of Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that J. Herbert Cassidy be granted permission to
renew his labor camp permit on property of I. P. Krupski, east
side Bridge Lane, East Cutchogue, New York. This permit shall
run for the calendar year 1964.
See Schedules "A" and "B": - Findings herein and hereto
annexed are taken from the previous hearings of July 5, 1962
and January 3, 1963. Accordingly these findings have not changed
essentially.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Grigonis, and Mr.Hulse.
Mr. Constantine King, owner of the bowling alley building and
land on Moore' s Lane,. Greenport,, appeared before the Board of
Appeals for an informal discussion relative to the erection of
directional signs. Mr. Kingwas advised that directional signs
for this type of business are considered in the interest of the
traveling public. Mr. King is planning to add a charcoal steak
business to this bowling alley, therefore the signs would read:
SCHEDULE "A"
Nf.%% PORK
AV: 19-62
Ap!! June 22, 19b1
A: k-W Tail! ZUNINC UP i, 1 OV,
TO J. Herbert caeFidy
aobokxt iRoad
&Mthold, New YOrx
,t a mec*ii-• of the Zonina B ,.t: -f Appea', on "mrsday, JU1Y 5, INI the appeal
was constdc;-(l and the action. :,d,.,,.atA below was takoi. on you:
1 1 Request for %zjn.Lnc... due to 'ack of a;-cfss to ploi)clltv
K 1 RequeA for LjL :xeplmm under the' ZOni,%g
PZecjL;c,. for a variance !rj the Zoning Ordinan-n.
'ception (X) bc
','_%(_,T'PT,(!N. BY of lix 1, spe(.,l (",
-ai-,ted t 1 be denied pursuan,L :iub:wction paragraph
of 'I)e zon"n'-, Orli!:!:i". t,nd th: It. f?C rt,versed be
Aftor inspection vn(I invostLgatiOn tbO 80=4 finds that
the labor cue under consideratim It" be= operating Under CO%MtY
Health Dwtpaxtqont liCense for ebmt 15 your. At the present tin*
It JA being MOdOrnimod to comply with MW MOrO V*GtriCtLV* regula—
tions.
This caMp is located agairiat a wooded area &ad near the
railroad and about 400 toot from the nearest road. The canp
djoeq not require nay action an the part of this Hoard Weiru, it
to CantiMe Under the operatim 09 the MOMV. The only Chan" (OW.,
VARTANCE. By resolution of :he Board it was detqniim,,.'1 that
tal S'Lrirt ,piplication of the wouldi4wiaild no',) j):'1:d,.Ce pr.ictxal difficulties or unn(f -
ossary hardship because
(n) Thr hardship creatcu li.,j ii� joti uIlklito .:.rid (Nvuuld, lwoul( nw , ) shared by all properiie�
alike ii, the immediate ViCiFLILy of this property anJ in the sam,: i.r di;!!i;-t because
Thf, var ,:txc id-ws! uoes 1'
(if I,;( c ('11--o nd iwoul(', would not)
. 'n:w n( cii ,i,i( A tl,(
.tl ,t !W; !.# : .1, ['11. d V 15e , ranted i; L
in
b , revtrsed
JU41th T. &AMn# 2OC"tArY
tontinueed from #rant)
i.L manaq+eaeant twdor a 3 rear loase.
The vbj*ctors wrio were present at the bAwing were r*sidlents
_:ietant frost the raaW and tt-wir complaints were similas to those
re►ised whesever migrant workers are employed.
Prowisioa has be= made during the past 20 yens for "Oraticxy
of two large labor camro hcyusiay about 350 workers opsarated co-
operatively by farmers. This season one of the coops will not
operate amd the farmers will house the workers srquir*d to operate
thou ftresr. The ordinaace permits this provided the ,N p is
located closer t,j the farmer's residence than to another residence.
A special emeeption is required in other Cases.
Many of the tarmers operate fasces in various locaatioms.
This is &11 part of ono operation. without has inq facilities
for workers farmers in this aroa •:could not Werate►.
'!M liviny cmditions in the cog in qu*sti.on axe the equal
or superior to thee large oanoeP which will demos to opeslete pwasently
and time County Poard of Aealth rigorously wuP8Wvtsw0 the promises.
Me Hoard fl.n4a that the e,:sndaras and conditions set forth
is the wdinancee are fully cooglied with and a posh valid until
Decowber 31, 1962 should be Issued for the 16 occupants as applied
for.
This limitr d tines will enable everyorsa concerned further to
study the matter and observe the results.
Titerefore it was var. LV= that J. Norbert Cassidy be gsanted
per mios ion to rent a labor camp on the ,Property of I. P. Krupsk i,
east ,aide Bridge Lame, Wagt Cutchoque, mew York. R permit valid
until December 31, 1962 shcA ild be issued for the 16 acctapants as
applied for.
67311 k. 4. upl3n application of J. iwrbert
L:asai(ly, f,,QZat t Road. Southold, tiew York, for a special
Wtcepticxj it accacdance with t:l e ',.oniny ")rdinancs, +Akrtielee X,
Liectior, 1003a, far pex.mA"i on to rant a labor cAPAP an ProPsrtY
of j. P. Krupski, mist side arld9e Lane, Peconic, blew York.
Property bounded Wirth by X. 'zanowski, east by
uouth by P. ecde ll, and west by Hr i dV* Lane .
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SCHEDULE "B"
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Appeal No.
535 n.,'1 December 18, is"
ACTIOiv Oi' T:il_ ZON'N(� BOARI> t,F' APPEALS OF 'Cf;E ZOWN OF' SOUTHOLD
mtr. J. merbert easeldr Appellant
To mart Is oad
Southold.
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at a nu.rti,'g o: '..c . ,. ..:,� Board ,,1 1 teals o erY 3. 1963 tilt' appeal
was c•onAdercd and the actiun indicatt-d below wai taken (;n yout
I It(:(;ueat f.n, varianc, due to lack of access to property
t=) Reque t for a special exception under the Zoning Ordinance
1-1,equeb_ for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance
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1. SPEGIAI IMCEPTION By resolution of ,lie Board 11 N%as deter.nined that a special exception A) be
x Section 1�3a.. Subsection paragraph
granted l , be denied pursuant to Article _ ....... .. ..• •• -
�f the Zoning Ordulancr and the ,1ec ision of thv Buildine Inspector :x) be reversed ( ! be
tif?rmed aecan e t After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
c'owtrasy to t33r oriurieal }wariitg held �Y����, �nd atdthis is
appeared to register objections, only
hear iaq, a l thot gh he c i s IXO d tc• s Peak for three others Who are aea
half tiAe diatsnt jim ul � r t � �aed
by Mr• ua�kiVeze�iail to thoearired dh® rwx aigrsnt rkeii
are eaployed.
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resolution of the Boardwas det;•r:::,l1 'hat
L ioil of .the Ordinar,l %could .':uld : _' l-:'c'd,.ce practical diff:•lilties or uni
7145 P.M. (B.S.T. ) . upon application at S. Herbert
ca"l Hobart hood. Southold, New York for a eial excep ion
accocanom with the zoning Ordinanc*, Arjicle x. a-etion 100 A, for
permi"ion to resew labor camp perla�►i.t cn the property of I. P. Krupski,
ib"t side Bridge Lase, east Cutchogule, New YOZk. Proper �dl untied
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north by K. xaawsk i. east by f3. av i is, south by or. II
nest by aria" .awe. t • •
'r,l':'d t-is) Its llot, and o111c1: Ili: 11:, 111t1 1, sl,art,d by all prl:lml'
:Clnity of tll.
l`! 'r,�' itLl•. `1 ai" ';1iii 1. d. Jbecause:
(c) Tht var once Idocs, )does not) observe ,iiv spirit ()t 'he Cr(linanr: ;,nd would, mould ;1..
change the cilaral•trr of ,lie distr:c•t becauac
and therefore, it �t'a:: further determined that the reguestt be granted ( i be denied
,d miai,ce ( )
Ind th t tt.c p-cvicu� decisions of the Building In,�pectcx t ! be confirmed t be reversed.
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(Contiaved from frost
The c po11ing reison for graatiug a ey -Cial exasptism to
operate this camp as a coanercial labor camp still exists by
reason of the eli,niAatios of cooperatives housing for aplrrvx1nately
200 workers foreaerly housed at the Gresnpert I sbor Camp. TM
operators of farms conduct tlw it operation In various locations
necessitating housimi within the general area of operation is
order to perform grading operations to market the crops. Conditions
for the opening of the carp were es tab l ished by tho =u f fo lk County
Hoard of Ve'alth anJ involved two now cesspools, new well point,
Dom, showers, &hoot rooting the tautire interior ofthP 2i ft.
by SO ft. building, as well as new floors, and division into a
kitchen and crew quarters as sketched by the i3oard of wealth.
No enlargement of the original structure w&s made. M:. Cassidy
stated the Board of health c'+owglimented hits o» theroperation of
the camp.
This camp en.rb.lees th* cusp o erat--r, J. flarbart Cassidy, to
locate a crew tar closer to his grading operation than formerly. ,
The A & P chain-vyoerate4 two large graders in Peconic but their
operation was intermittent during 1962 and the Cassidy grading
facilities were es6entia3 for marketing Pecorac's nbjor crop, potatoes.
With regard to Mr. :.anowsklle verbatim etateemt which was
read into the record the last sentence of the third paragraph of
said statement. pre &ects a serious charge as follows "The police
blotter shoos stabbings, fi4hts, lye throwing, and drinking are
eorstaet at this cusp. " we have asked the Chief of the Southold
Tow Police for a report which is included in this record. Chief
Howard states that there were two instances when a patrolman was
called to the camp, on August S. 1962 and August 26. 1962. The
%uyust Sth lye incident Involved an unknown assailant, while the
assailant in the Auqust 26th ate Log incident was given a suspended
sentenc* of 30 daeyes both injuries were of a minor nature. The
opening statement of paragraph four of Chief t-toward's zeport reads
as follows: "ks for time incident rate at this camp, it is no gr-Meer
than: any other camp In Torsi. "
No complaint regarding this camp reached the Supervisor's
office during the 1962 operation.
The Hoard of Iq pesals is In agre4r&ept with the remora t fowl l n
concerninq labor camps . hawovwi, we believe that the upsratiorj of
can%ps has vastlf lugrcmed i.n recent years and that such canape are
a tool ab Pe4ential to local agriculturc as tractors. Accordingly
.adr findings have not c.raangod essentially since •.Tuly S, 1962 a3 : utl iac
Az our artio., of that date fused can Appeal Wc;. 481 of J. Herber$.
Ther*foree it was Rb60LVrD that J. Herbert Caaidy be granted
p fries iam to re a*p w his labor casry permit on property of I. P.
"upski, east aid* Pri,lge Lahee, Fast Cutchoque, Now Mork. Thin
permit area l l run for the calendar Year 1963.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -4- February 20, 1964
"Kingsst Steaks and Bowling, " with the proper directional
information. He also advised the Board that he is planning
to move the "Bowl" sign that is now on the roof in violation
and place it on the side of the building where it was originally
intended.
On motion of Mr. Gillispiet seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated February 6, 1964 be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Grigonis, and Mr.. Hulse.
The Board received an application from Frederick Gordon,
a/c Edward Speeches for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance to
permit the conversion of a barn into a two-family dwelling. The
Board reviewed this application and returned it to Mr. Gordon
advising that the Southold Town Board of Appeals has been reminded
by the County of Appeals in Albany that the proper authority to
change the type of use permitted in the "A" Residential-Agriculturdl
District is the Town Board. Accordingly this application was not
scheduled for a hearing. However, he may still apply if he wishes.
The Board is in sympathy with people who are attempting to convert
a large older dwelling into a two-family use, however, the proje;bt
proposed by Mr. Gordon for Mr. Speeches is somewhat different
from such a conversion.
The meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Judith T. Boken, Secretary