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S0UTH0LD, L. I., N. Y.
01 Telephone SO 5-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
He.-1 —r1 R ene,g
Charles Gregonis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Fred Hulse, Jr.
M I N U T E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
May 28, 1964
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was
held 7:30 P.M. , Thursday, May 28, 1964, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr. , Chairman,
Robert Bergen, Fred Hulse, Jr. , Charles Gregonis, Jr.
Absent: Mr. Serge Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 665 - 7:30 P.M. (E.D.S.T. ) , upon
application of Edna Brown, Main Road, East Marion, New York, a/c
John A. LeBar, Box 53, RD 1, Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, for a
variance and recognition of access in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 303, Article X, . Section 1000a, and
the State of New York Town Law Section 280A, for permission to divide
and set off lot with insufficient width, and for approval of access.
Location of property: Right-of-way off west side Bay Avenue, East
Marion, New York, bounded north by Lake, east by L. Baltz, south
by Bay, and west by Edwards. Fee paid $5. 00.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a variance and recognition of access., legal notice of hearing.,.
affidavit attesting to its publication in the official newspaper.,;
and notice to the applicant.
The Board looked at .themmap of the property in question and
.discussed it with Mrs.- Edna Brown,
THE CHAIRMAN: Do these lots have the proper area?
HOWARD TERRY=. Building Ispector: There is more than enough area
on both of them.
THE CHAIRMAN: Can fire trucks go in here without any trouble?
MRS. BROWN: I guess they can go in without any trouble. They
can go in from Gardiners Bay Estates. I will show you the access
on the ,map.
Mrs. Brown showed the right-of-way in Gardiners Bay Estate on
a larger map. The Board discussed it.
THE- CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present -who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone who would like to ask any
questions in connection with this application?
(There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds t1t'Edna
Brown a/c John A. Lebar wishes to divide and set- off a lot with
insufficient width,,, and obtain approval of access. The Board finds
that the lots in: this vicinity vary in size. The Board agrees
with the reasoning in the application. The Board feels it is
reasonable to divide the lots in the manner suggested by Mr. Van
Tuyl and shown on the survey dated March 12t 1964,, and revised
May ll� 1964. The Board finds that the access is accessible to
fire trucks and other emergency equipment.
The Board finds that strict .application of the ordinance will
unnecessary hardship; ' the hardship
produce practical difficulties or
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike
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in the immediate vicinity of this property and in the same use
district; and the variance does observe the spirit. of the Ordinance
and.will .not change the character of the district.
On motion by Mi. Gillispie: seconded by Mr. Grigonis,, it was
RESOLVED that Edna Brown,, Main Road,. East Marions.. New York•g.
a/c John A. LeBar.,. Box 53,„ RD 1.,,. Stroudsburg.,.. Pennsylvania.,, be
granted permission to divide and set off a lot with insufficient
width,, and be granted approval of access on property located on
right-of-way off ,west side Bay Avenue.,. East-Marion.,, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse,,
and Mr. Gregonis,
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 666 -. 7.45' P.M. (E.D.S.T. ) ,, upon
application of -Joseph Milcetic,, 31-57 . 33rd .Street,,. Long Island
City.,, New York.,. for recognition of access in accordance with the
State of'New York Town Law.,;- Section 280A. Location of property:
Right-of-way east side Boisseau Avenue,,- Southold,' New York, bounded
north by-E. C. Maier,. east -by G. Barazac,. south by right-of-way-
Maier.,, west by John Milcetich. Fee paid $5.00
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
recognition of access, legal notice of hearing,,, affidavit attesting
to its pulication in the official newspaper-,,. and notice to the
applicant.
Mr. Howard Terry brought before the Board the tax maps,..- so that
they could better acquaint themselves with the location of ,the
property.
THE' CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who would like to speak
in favor of this application?
MR. JOSEPH MILCETIC: We are going to build a house and I have
to have. recognition of access before I can build this house.
MR. HULSE: How wide is the right-of-way?
MR. MILCETIC: It is 25 feet. It is only a farm road now.
MR. HULSE: Does it need to be scraped?
THE,'CHAIRMAN: Are there any other houses on this road?
MR. MILCETIC: There are no other houses there now.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is the right-of-way used now or is it just a
,farm road?
MR. HOWARD TERRY: It is just a farm road..
THE CHAIRMAN: I don't suppose there would be any problems
with this.
MR. GREGONIS: It is wide open down there.
MR. DELANY: What-would be the drainage problem with the
right-of-way. Wouldn't it have to be on a certain level to give
them drainage to the existing road?
THE 'CHAIRMAN: Mr. Gregonis can answer you better than I can.
Mr. Gregonis explained how the road level would have to be
in order' to give drainage to the existing road.
THE ,CHAIRMAN: If .you agree right here and now to put in
drainage, it would save you a lot of problems later ; on. Mr. Terry
would have to inspect this.
HOWARD TERRY: They should have Harold Price come down and look
at it. He could probably put it ..right in with the Town Road.
THE 'CHAIRMAN: I think the person to see would be Mr. Price.
HOWARD TERRY: I think Harold would go along- with this.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present-who would like to speak
against this application?
(There was no response. )
THE 'CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions in connection with
this application?
;(There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
Joseph Milcetic wishes to construct a 25 foot right-of-way, easterly
off Boisseau Avenue. The Board finds that- the applicant needs this
access in order to reach the house he is planning to build. The
Applicant plans to set up a system for drainage. The access will
be accessible to fire trucks and other emergency equipment.
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The Board finds - that - strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe the
spirit of the Ordinance'and will not- change the character of
the district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that Joseph Milcetic, 31-57 33rd Street,Long Is]a. nd
City, New York, be granted recognition of access on'-;property
located right-of-way east side Boisseau Avenue, Southold, New York,
subject- to the approval of Howard Terry, Building Inspector.
Vote of the Board: Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse, and
Mr. Grigon,is. (Ayes)
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 667 - 8: 00 P.M. (E.D.S.T. ) , upon
application of Stanley Corwin, Esq. , Greenport, New York, a/c
Joseph Aveta, Goldin Lane,,,,. Southold,; New York.,, for a variance
in accordance with the' Zoning 'Ordinance.,,,. Article III ,- Sections
303� 306,,, 307, 308.t: and Article X,,,,- Section 1000as. for permission
to change lot lines with insufficient side yard,, frontage.,, and
area. Location of property: Soundview Avenue and ,Goldin Lane,,, Lots
No. 6.- 7.,: and 21, Southold, New York' bounded north by Soundview
Avenue.l; east by Goldin Lane.i. south by lot-# �20,t, map of "Nathan
Goldin"Z. west by Levin. Fee paid $5. 00.
THE-CHAIRMAN: First I should obtain permission from the
applicant to add the sections that he didn't include in the
application himself.
STANLEY CORWIN; ESQ. : It is alright. It has been done.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a variance,, legal notice of hearing,..,,. affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper,. and notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: How big were these lots before?
STANELY 'CORWIN, ESQ. : They vary in size. They go as small as
50, x 901 .
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THE CHAIRMAN: Can you sell this property?
' STANLEY'-CORWIN, ESQ. : We are selling lot`--# 6 under contract*
and they get- water for 2 years.
THE CHAIRMAN: You guarantee water for ' two years. . Where is
. . the pump. house?
STANLEY CORWIN, ESQ. : On lot-# 20
MR. BERGEN: These light lines are they way -it was divided.„
and you want to divide it by tithe dark lines on the 'map?
' STANLEY _CORWIN, ESQ. : Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Who is the garage for?
STANLEY CORWIN, ESQ: That is on the south side of .Lot #21.
That is not shown on the map.
THE 'CHAIRMAN: You have approximately-16.,a,000 square feet of
land?
STAN 1 Y _CORWIN, ESQ. : Yes.
MR. HULSE: Whatis the 'purpose of leaving this 20 feet in
here?
STANLEY CORWIN, ESQ.: We want to give this fellow a garage.
THE CHAIRMAN: Be sure -to put the garage in the back yard
area.
ST Y CORWIN, ESQ. : Yes.
THE 'CHAIRMAN: The people that are going to buy lot-.#6s, are
they moving here for good.
STANLEYCORWIN, ESQ.. : For ' the summer.
MR. BERGEN: I think he has divided it the best .way he could.
THE' CHAIRMAN: Is there any other questions?
(There was no response. )
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THE' CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present, who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
Stanley -Corwinli:. Esq..,, a/c Joseph .Aveta wishes to change lot lines
with insufficient side yard.. frontage.:,, and area. The Board finds
that the applicant wishes to sell these lots. They cannot be
sold as they are because they will violate the side yard require-
ments. The buildings were erected on the property prior to the
Zoning Ordinance.
The Board finds that:st'rict application of the Ordinance will
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike
in the immediate vicinity of 'this property and in the same use
district; and the variance does observe the spirit- of the -Ordinance
and will not change the character of the district.
On motion by Mr. Gregonis, , seconded by Mr. Bergen.., it- was
RESOLVED that'-.Stanley Corwin.,,, Esq..,,. Greenport:t New York.,, a/c
Joseph Aveta... Goldin Lane.t,. Southold...., New Yorks, be granted permission
to change lot lines with .insufficient side yard..,, frontage.,,, and
area. Location of property: Soundview Avenue and Goldin'Lane:,
lots No. 6., 7.,., and 21.1,- Southold,, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillespie,,,, Mr. Bergen.., Mr. Hulse.:,
Mr. Gregonis.
On motion by Mr. Gillespie.,,,; seconded. by Mr. Bergen,, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated May 144,. 1964..., be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillespie,,,, Mr. Bergen•,;. Mr. Hulse
Mr. Gregonis.
Southold Town Board of'App( s . -8- May 28s, . 196-
On motion by Mr. Gillispie;;r,; seconded by.Mr. Bergen•'; it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of'Appeals set 7:30
P.M. (E.D.S.T. ):?, Thursday., June ll,r.. 1964t,, at the Town Offices,
Main Roadr, Southolds, New York.:, . as time and place of hearing.
upon application of=Peter' Sledj eski.s, Main Road,, Orients; New York
fora special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance.,'
Article,X.s.. Sect-ion 1003A.,..' for permission to renew a farm labor
camp permit granted May 23.,,. 1963. Location of property: south
side Route 25.r,. Orients, New Yorks, bounded north by Main Road,;
east by -J. B. Droskoski,, south and west by J. Tuthill and J.
Dyer.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie,.., Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse,
and Mr. Gregonis.
On motion by Mr. Bergen,. seconded by Mr. Hulse,. it was
RESOLVED that the' Southold Town Board of:Appeals set 7:40
P.M. (E.D.S.T. ),t, Thursday=, June 3.1.r, 1964s, at the Town Officer,
Main Road,, Southold,, New York,,,, as time and place of`hearing
upon application of'Elizabeth M. Connors'. Mattitucks. New York,..
for a variance and recognition. of .access in accordance with
the'Zoning Ordinance,.. Article III', Section 303.s, and Article
X.r.- Section 1000Ar, and New York, State Town, Law.r, Section 280A,
for permission to divide lots with insufficient frontage and
for approval of access. Location of property: south side. Peconic
Bay Blvd. r, Laurel ., New York.z bounded north by Peconic Bay
Blvd..,,'. east by :A. H. Patters on,,;. south by other land of 'Connorst
west by S.- D.Piquet.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr.Gillispie•s, Mr. Bergen' Mr. Hulse,,r.
Mr. Grigonis.
On motion by Mr. Hulse., . seconded by Mr. Gregonis.j. it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set- 7:50
P.M. (E.D.S.T. •t, Thursdays; June 11s, 1964,. at the Town Office.=,
Main Roada, Southold.., New Yorks:' as time and place of hearing
upon application of Fred R.- Wangelin,. 2054 Stirrup Path.,,;Seaford.,.
New Jerseys for a variance in accordance with the Zoning ,Ordinance• ,
Article III•LlSection 305s for permission to erect a dwelling-with
insufficient setback. Location of property: north side Ole JuLe
Lane,,r; Mattitucksi, New York.r. •bounded north by Nuart- Lane,,. east ,by
Zigmund Pylko,_ south by Ole Jule Lane , west by Ole Jule Lane.
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Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie•,, Mr. Bergen,,; Mr. H'rilse,,_
Mr. Gregonis.
On motion by Mr. Gregonis., seconded by Mr. Gillispies it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of'Appeals set 8: 10
P.M. (E.D.S.T. ).j. Thursday.,," June 11,. 1964,, at the Town Office...
Main Road,, Southold,. New Yorks, as time and place of hearing
upon application of :R. G. Terry Esq..s. Southold,, New York, a/c
Charlotte K. Gittinger,_ 3 Forest'-Drive.,, Springfield,; New Jerseys,
for a variance and recognition of 'access in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance.,,. Article III. Section 303,,. and New York State
Town Law:; Section 280A.s; for permission to divide lots with
insufficient frontage., and for approval of access. Location of
property: north side'Cedar Beach Road., and east- side Paradise
Point Roads, Southold., New York.,.., bounded north by-E. G.-Weymouth.,
east by Bay,.: south by Cedar 'Beach Road,,, west by Paradise Point
Road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie•.; Mr. Bergems, Mr. Hulse,,,.
Mr. .Gregonis.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie�.._seconded by Mr. Bergen., it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8:30
P.M. (E.D.S.T. ) Thursday,. June ; ,., 1964.t: at the Town Office.,
Main Road,, Southold,. New Yorki as time and place of hearing
upon application of Mae MacLeish,.., Bray,—Avenues, Laurel,: New York•.,
for a variance in accordance with the Zoning ordinance.,,. Article
III•,,;. Section 303,,, for permission to erect a building with insufficient
frontage. Location of property: west. side Bz;ay. Avenues. lot-#100,s.
Laureli New York,, bounded north by other land of MacLeish,, east
by-Bray. Avenue,t, south by T. T. Whittier.. west by -other land of
MacLeish.
Vote of the Board: ayes: Mr. Gillispie.s,. Mr. Bergens, Mr. Hulse,,.,
Mr. Gregonis.
On motion by Mr. Bergens, .seconded by Mr. Hulse.,; it was
RESOLVED that the' Southold Town Board of-Appeals set 8:45
P.M. (E.D.S.T. )•z, Thursdays. June ll.s 1964s: .at the Town Offices,
Main Road_,; Southold,,, New York,., as time and place of hearing
upon application of Herbert -W. Wells?: Jr.s,. Southold.. New York.;.,
Southold Town Board of 'Appeals -10- May 28s. 1964
a/c Vail Brothers: Inc..,_ Main Road,, Peconic., New Yorke. for
a special exception in accordance with the Zoning ordinance,
Article IV* Section 400,,, Subsection 9s, for permission to in-
stall a parking lot to sellnew and used cars. Location of
property: north east corner of Peconic Lane and Route 25,,;
- Peconic..s New York.,; bounded north by land now or formerly of
A. Cierach,a: east by land now or formerly of S. Cierachs: south
by Main Road.,, west by Peconic Lane.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie,, Mr. Bergen,, Mr. Hulse.,
Mr. Grigonis.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grigonisp; it was
RESOLVED that the ' SoutholddTown Boar d of Appeals set 9: 00
P.M. (E.D.S.T. ) , Thursday,; June 11.,, 1964 ;at the Town Office,,.
Main Road,, Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing
upon application of James Brewington= Main Roads, Cutchogue.,. New
Yorke for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinances. Article ivi, Section 400,, Subsection 9i for permission
to install a parking lot to sell used cars. Location of property:
south east corner of Main Road and Eugene Roads., Cutchogue, New
Yorks, bounded north by Main Road,, east by M. Abatelli,. south
by O. Glovers, west by Eugene Road.
Vote -of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,. Mr. Hulse,.,
Mr. Grigonis.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis.,, seconded by Mr. Gillispie., it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 9:30
P.M. (E.D.S.T. ),a upon application of J. Harry McGowanr,: 17. Aberdeen
Street,, Malverne,r, New York.=, for a special exception in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance,. Article Xg, Section 1007.,_ Subsection e�,
for permission to expand a non-conforming building. Location of
property: private right-of-ways south side Peconic Bay Blvd. , Laurbli,
New York,,, bounded north by J. Connellyll, east-by private road,; south
by M. McGowans west by J. McGowan.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie: Mr. Bergen,;. Mr. Hulse,,
Mr. Grigonis.
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. Southold Town Board of' Appe'� -11- May 280, 19G,-"
The next.meeting of the- Southold Town Board of-Appeals
will be held 7:30' P.M.T. Thursday,; June 11.,; 1964 ; at the
Town office&. .Main Roads; Southold&' New York.
Meeting adj ounned 10.-00 P. M.
Respectfully subm- ittedi,
Barbara L. Carrozat, Secretary
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ChairPanBoard of Appeals