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TRUSTEES SUPERVISOR
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I John M. Bredemeyer, III, President . �� ��,� SCOTT L.HARRIS
Albert J. Krupski,' Jr.,Vice President
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Henry P. Smith n, Town Hall
John B. Tuthill ,3. ® �W 53095 Main Road
William G. Albertson �Ol �►`a® P.O. Box 1179
Telephone (516) 765-1892 Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-1923 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
June 25, 1992
Anthony B. Tohill, P.C.
Attorneys at Law
12 'First Street
P.O. Box 1330
Riverhead, NY 11901
Re: Narrow River Marina
Dear Mr. Tohill:
Recently via phone you indicated to me in very strong terms your
opinion that Trustee John Tuthill cannot properly participate in,
any action on the navigation aids for the above' referenced site.
As an officer of the court, I would appreciate,..that you contact
this office or the Town attorney in writing such that your
concerns are officially made known.
Outstanding matters in relation to the marina which we shall
proceed with independently of this issue are:
1) . Proof of proper insurance for the navigation aids & marine
operations in the amount of $1,000,000m00 liability policy
naming the town as insured.
2) The final marine survey for the completed dredge project is
now due in. that the wetland permit has expired by: more than 90
days. ,
Absent a very prompt submission on these above items, we will be
forced to start an enforcement for substantive violations of the
existing permit.
Very tr ly yours,
John M. Bredeme er, III
President, Board of Trustees
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PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Environmental Planners & Consultants One Bootleg Alley P.O.Box672
Greenport,New York 11944
December 30, 1992 (516)477-0030
Fax(516)477-0198
Mr. James W. Haggerty
Chief Eastern Permits Section
Department of the Army
New York District Corps of Engineers
Jacob K. Javits Federal Building
New York, NY 10278-0090
Dear Mr. Haggerty:
Based on our understanding and telephone conversations, enclosed are combined
applications with New York State Department of Environmental Conservation for storm
damage related repairs and reconstruction, along with copies of the D.E.C. Permits
issued for the following property owners:
o Research Charters
o Claudio Family Corporation
o Narrow River Marina
o Henry Traendly.
It is our understanding that, with these documents in hand, it is your plan to authorize
the in kind replacement under the Nation Wide Permit.
Please note that the work authorized for Research Charters is part of a previous request
made under your Application No. 92-10270-L2. The portion of the work authorized by
D.E.C. Permit# GWH-44 for protection of adjacent properties is being removed from
the original application. Revised applications to reflect the change are being made to
the Village of Greenport (Lead Agency), the D.E.C., C.Z.M., and the Corps of
Engineers.
Sincerely,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Merlon E. Wiggin, ?hr. ,M.E.
President
Enclosures: Per Text
cc: Town of Southold
Village of Greenport
N.Y.S.D.E.C.
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ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G. 2 Q 1992
ATTORNEYS RSTSTREET�w �a= �
ANTHONY B.TOHILL TELEPHONE..
P. 0. BOX 1330 (516)727-8383
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD
OF COUNSEL RIVEAHEAD, NEW YORK 11901
TELECOPIER:
(516)727-6336
May 19, 1992
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
P. 0. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Re. : Narrow River Marina
Dear Jay:
Thank you for your letter of May 13, 1992 that probably
has crossed in the mail with other correspondence from me on the
same points . I will assume that I am to await the agenda. To
the extent that May 21 and May 28 are quickly approaching, I will
appreciate your earliest reply.
Very truly yours, -
Anthony B. Tohill
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1100;P�105
DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS
THIS DECLARATION, made the 24th day of February, 1990 by
FRED DACIMO, residing at 31 Oswegatchie Road, Waterford, Connecti-
EIST . cut, 06385, hereinafter referred to as the DECLARANT, the owner of
0000 the premises described in Schedule "A" annexed hereto, hereinafter
SECT . referred to as the PREMISES, who desires to restrict the use and
� 27.00 enjoyment of said PREMISES and has for such purposes determined to
BLOCK impose on said PREMISES covenants and restrictions and does hereby
C 2.00 declare that said PREMISES' shall be held and shall be conveyed
LOT- subject to the following covenants and restrictions:
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1. WHEREAS DECLARANT has made application to the Board of
Trustees of the Town of Southold for a permit to dredge certain
parts of a body of water known as "Narrow River" on and in the vi-
cinity of DECLARANT'S PREMISES ; and
FEB 27 1990 2 . WHEREAS The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold has
agreed to issue said permit only if there be a record covenant
that boats with marine toilets, also known as "heads," capable of
direct discharge overboard shall not be afforded bearthing and/or
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mooring space at the PREMISES;
IT IS DECLARED AND COVENANTED BY DECLARANT, his heirs or suc-
cessors and assigns forever, that boats with marine toilets, also
known as '.'heads," capable of direct discharge overboard shall not
be afforded bearthing and/or mooring space at the PREMISES .
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3. The DECLARANT, his successors and assigns shall set forth
these covenants, agreements and declarations in any and all leases
to occupants, tenants and/or lessees of the above-described prop-
erty and shall, by their terms, subject same to the covenants and
restrictions contained herein. Failure of the DECLARANT, his suc-
cessors and assigns. to so condition the leases shall not invalidate
their automatic subjugation to the covenants and restrictions.
4. All of the covenants and restrictions contained herein
i shall be construed to be in addition to and not in derogation or
�j limitation upon any provisions of local, state and federal laws,
ordinances and/or regulations in effect at the time of execution of
1 this agreement, or at the time. such laws, ordinances and/or regu-
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lations may thereafter be revised, amended or promulgated.
5. This document is made subject to the provisions of all
laws required by law or by their provisions to be incorporated
herein and they . are deemed to be incorporated herein and made a
part hereof, as though fully Set forth.
6. The aforementioned restrictive covenants shall be en-
forceable by The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold by in-
junctive relief or by any other remedy in equity or at law. The
failure of said Board to enforce the same shall not be deemed to
affect the validity of this covenant nor to impose any liability E
whatsoever upon The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold or i
any officer or employee thereof. j
7. These covenants and restrictions shall run with the land f
and shall be binding upon the DECLARANT, his successors and assigns
and upon all persons or entities claiming under them, and may be
terminated, revoked or amended. by the owner of the PREMISES only
with the written consent of The Board of Trustees of the Town of
Southold.
STATE OF NEW YORK
ss.:
County of Suffolk
I, EDWARD P. ROMAINE,Clerk of the County of Suffolk and Clerk of the Supreme Court of the State
of New York in and for said County(said Coy rt be ng a�C,-o rt of Record)DO HEREBY CERTIFY that
I ave compared the annexed copy of AJuL�`"�
rh . �: ), i/`9 Dv // and
and that it is a just and true copy of such original
of the whole thereof.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF,I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County
and Court this o2? day of 19
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Form No. 104
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peared FRED DACIMO, to me known and known to me to be the same in-
dividual descri, -ed in and who executed the above instrument and
who duly ac owledged to me that he executed the same.
Notary Public
ED%VAir JOHW BOYD 5th
t{071f,2Y PUBLIC,State of NLw York
No.0376625,Suffolk County
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a TOWN OF`5bUfi�iOLD;'Y�EtVYdI�.� DATE ....�Y..b y 1971
ACTION OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Appeal No. 14�4 Dated April 10, 1971
ACTION OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
To Rudolph & Edna Koubek Appellant
24 Champlin Avenue
East Islip, New York 11730
at a meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals on May 61 19 71 the appeal
was considered and the action indicated below was taken on your
( ) Request for.variance due' to lack of access to property
a(). Request for a special exception under the Zoning Ordinance
( ) Request for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance
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1. SPECIAL EXCEPTION. By resolution of the Board it was determined that a special exception ( ) be
granted ( ) be denied pursuant to Article .................... Section .................... Subsection .................... paragraph
.................... of the Zoning Ordinance and the decision. of the Building. Inspector ( ) be reversed ( ) be
confirmed because - 6:15 P.iq. (E.D.S.T'), upon application of Rudolph &
Edna Koubek, 24 Champlin Avenue,' East Islip, New York, for a
special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinanoep
Article III, Saction 300, Subsection' 5 (T), for permission to
operate existing marina in the "A" Residential-Agricultural
District with servicing privileges by new owner. " Location of
property: east side of Narrow River Road, Orient, New York,
bounded north by NarrowRiver Road, east by Hallock Bay, south
by Plainland Realty Corp. , west by Narrow ;fiver .load. Fee paid $5.00.
2. VARIANCE. By resolution of the Board it was determined that
(a) Strict application of the Ordinance (would) (would not) produce practical difficulties or- unnecessary
hardship because „
SEE REVERSE
(b) The hardship created. (is) (is not) unique and (would) (would not). be shared by all properties
alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and in the same use district because
SEE REVERSE
(c) The variance (does) (does not) observe the spirit of the Ordinance and (would) (would not)
change the character of the district because
SEE REVERSE
and therefore, it was further determined that the requested variance ( ' ) be •granted ( ) be denied and
that the previous decisions of the Building Inspector ( ) be confirmed ( j be reversed.
SEE REVERSE
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
FORM ZB4
Marjorie McDermott, Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Appeal No, 1424
Findings of the Board of Appeals are that the applicant has
applied for a Special Exception to operate a residential marina
in an Agricultural-Residential zone to service up to 75 boats.
Amendment # 68 of April 68 1965 to the' Zoning Ordinance limits
the granting of Special Exceptions in the A zone to "marinas for
the docking, mooring ' or accomodation of not more than six (6)
non-commercial boatst. Accordingly; the Board is prohibited
from acting on Application- No. 1424.
It should be pointed out to the applicant, however, that
Edwin H. Zing, deceased, obtained permission to operate a resi-
dential marina on the promises under application on September 5,.
1963, Appeal No. 565, desoribed in a November 8, 1962 location
map prepared by Van Tuyl & Son, Greenport, N. Y. , and that this
permission extended only to the property which was determined by
Supreme Court action to be the property of Edwin H, King-, In
addition, it should be pointed out that on April 6, 1965,, the
King Marina became a non-conforming use by reason of Amendment
# 68 limiting the number of boats to six. Whatever legally
permissible uses and facilities existed. at the King Purina on
that date may be used and continued by a new owner.
A condition of granting Application No. 565 follows:
"With the full understanding of the applicant all commercial
and/or business activity is forbidden on' these premises, however,
in determining what constitutes a business activity the Board is
of the opinion that this condition should, be interpreted to
distinguish possible future activities which are installed
primarily for the convenience of local residents rather than for
the profit of the owner. Questions arising concerning interpre-
tation of this condition should be referred to the Board of
Appeals."
Questions of interpretation of future activities at this"
marina by the present applicant are therefore properly a concern
of the Board of Appeals and are further limited, as follows:
1. All operations must conform to existing law."
--'2. Permission is granted to- remove 'the old barge . and
replace with floats,
3. Sale of gasoline, soft drinks and toe is prohibited,
4. All commercial or business activity, including vending
machines, is prohibited.
5. :, ' isitorage of boats other than those of the owner
Is prohibited.
6. Use of these ff�ciltties".by commercial fishermen or
party boats pis ,prohibited.
7. The number. -of pleasure boats which may use this faoility
Is limited_,,to no more than 75.
In making th®,,foregbing determination the Board is acting
under the condition noted above in the Board's action on
Application No, $65 darted September 5, 1963.
ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY B.TOHILL TELEPHONE:
P. O. BOX 1330
(516)727-8383
MICHAELT.CLIFFORD
OF COUNSEL RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901
TELECO PIER:
(516)727-6336
May 15, 1992
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John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees '' 1 81992
Town of Southold L.
P. 0. Box 1179 Tn in E )
Southold, New York 11971 -1-so LD
Re. : Narrow River Marina
Dear Jay:
I am awaiting the agenda on Dacimo/Narrow River. I do
not know how to respond to selection of a forum for a meeting until
I have the agenda. You know my concerns since I have expressed
them as plainly as I can. If I could have an agenda, some of those
concerns might diminish. I continue to worry about this file more
than any other matter that I have with any other regulatory agency.
Please let me hear from you quickly since I am not pleased with all
of the delays . I do not think that it is fair to a property owner
to have a regulatory agency hovering over his premises or his
permits for as long as has taken place here and certainly I do not
think anyone thinks it is right for permits to be constantly under
challenge as has occurred here.
Very truly yours,
Anthony B. Tohill
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TRUSTEES SUPERVISOR
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John M. Bredemeyer, III, President 5� a' l � �y� SCOTT L. HARRIS
Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President
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HenryP. Smith � '� ,,� .:r:� °� Town Hall
John B. Tuthill 53095 Main Road
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William G. Albertson �� a=' P.O. Box 1179
Telephone (516) 765-1892 Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-1923 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
May 13 , 1992
Anthony B. Tohill, P.C.
Attorney at Law
12 First Street
P.O. Box 1330
Riverhead, Ny 11901
Re: Narrow River Marina
SCTM #1000-27-2-4
Dear Mr. Tohill:
Confirming our conversation this date, the Trustees would be
available to discuss the issues surrounding the Narrow River
Marina navigation markers at our field survey on May 21, 1992 or
on May 28, 1992 at our regular meeting work session at 6: 00 p.m.
at Town Hall.
In an attempt to bring this matter into accord with everyone' s
concerns, I would have no objection to fixing an agenda for the
discussion in this matter in advance of that meeting, provided
we could establish an agenda prior to May 21 with input from
every Trustee established in writing ahead of that date.
Very trul yours,
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
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ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G.
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ANTHONY B.TOHILL 12 FIRST STREET TELEPHONE;
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(516)727-6363
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORDtV J
OF COUNSEL RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901 e
TELECOPIER:
(516)727-6336
May 6, 1992
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
P. 0. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Jay:
I have your message from late on May 1 . I would
appreciate if you and I could have a telephone conversation well in
advance of May 22 , 1992 . At that time time I will want to know
what agenda we are following on the Narrow River Marina matter.
Very truly yours,
Anthony B. Tohill
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ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.Q, M r�
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY S.TOHILL P. O. BOX 1330 yg'{"�y�'
TELEPHONE:
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MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD
OF COUNSEL RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901
TELECOPIER:
(516)727-6336
May 11 1992
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
P. O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Re. : Narrow River Marina
Dear Jay:
I have been tying to confirm our meeting date for
May 8, but I have now been advised that is Mother' s Day weekend and
there will be difficulty assembling everyone. I suggest
4 p.m. , Friday, May 22, as the next best date subject to everyone ' s
availability. Could you please confirm.
Very truly yours,
�y
Anthony B. Tohill
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cc: Mr. Merlon E. Wiggin
Mr. Fred Dacimo
n" ^ 11992
ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G. H
ATTORNEYS AT LAW :—`�j
12 FIRST STREET TO J��
ANTHONY B.TOHILL P. O. BOX 1330 ®""'�'+ TELEPHONE:
(516)727-8383
MICHAELT.CLIFFORD
OF COUN5EL AIVERHEAD, NEw YOEK 11901
TELECOPI ER:
(5I6)727-6336
April 28, 1992
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
P. 0. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Re. : Narrow River Marina
Dear Jay:
Before another meeting convenes on Narrow River Marina,
you and I must have at the very least a telephone conference on a
pre-arranged basis . I am unhappy with the way in which your
Board is handling this matter and you and I should exchange some
information before May 8, 1992 . When we talk I will want to
setup a fail-safe system so that what occurred on April 17 cannot
occur again. I tried to reach you last Friday and left a message
with Jill for you to call me. Instead John Tuthill called on
Saturday. Unless you and I can agree on an agenda for any
reconvened meeting, I am disinclined to have the meeting.
Very truly yours,
Anthony B. Tohill
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ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY B.TOHILL TELEPHONE:
P. 0. BOX 1330 (516)727-8383
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD _
OF COUN5EL RIVERHEAD, NEW YoRK 11901
TELECOPI ER:
(516)727.6336
April 8, 1992
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
P. 0. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Re. : Narrow River Marina
Dear Jay:
Fred Dacimo ' s wife (Fred is travelling on business)
called this morning after receiving my April 6, 1992 letter
advising that you had called and set-up an April 10, 1992 meeting
at 6 : 30 p.m. . Fred' s wife indicated that Fred had advised you that
date was not good for him. Could you speak to me so that we could
reschedule without a lot of extra delays .
Very truly yours,
_&_25rL�_
Anthony B. Tohill
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ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY B.TOHILL TELEPHONE:
P. O. BOX 1330 (516)727-8383
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD
OF COUNSEL RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901
TELECOPI ER:
(516)727-6336
March 13, 1992
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees 4 �! 61910)2
Town of Southold W MAR I
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Southold, New York 11971 °x `�a��j�y '� 2—G�dL !
Re. : Narrow River Marina
Dear Jay:
I spoke to Fred Dacimo about your March 2, 1992 letter.
Fred is unavailable for a meeting on March 26, 1992 . I
suggest that you and I work out a later date.
When we have a chance to talk, I would like to follow up
on the Board' s request for indemnity coverage.
Very truly yours,
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Anthony B. Tohill
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ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G. 77=.]
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY B.TOHILL P. 0. BOX 1330 TOWN OF S1RALPH J.BAVARO L �
AIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD TELECOPIER:
OF COUNSEL (516)727.6335
December 6, 1991
Mr. John M. Bredemeyer III, Chairman
Trustees of the Commonalty
Town of Southold
Town Hall
P. 0. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Jay:
You called late on December 4 and I tried to reach you
back that afternoon, yesterday afternoon and again this morning,
but there was no answer on December 4 or this morning and the
person who answered yesterday said that there was no one in the
Trustees ' office. The secretary here said that you were calling
about Narrow River Marina but there was no message. Given the
hard time that I had reaching you back, is there any way in which
you could let me know by a telephone message or a note whether
there is some information that you need or whether there is a way
in which I could be of help to you and the Board.
Very truly yours,
Anthony B. Tohill
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TRUSTEES
John M.Bredemeyer,III,President _ � . a SUPERVISOR
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Henry P. Smith,Vice President `' Wyk= SCOTT L.HARRIS
Albert J.Krupski,Jr. ttnm
John L.Bednosld,Jr. ,�'®d �.��� Town Hall
John B.Tuthill 53095 Main Road
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES P.O.Box 1179
Telephone(516)765-1892 � Southold,New York 11971
Fax(516)765-1823 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
CERTIFIED MAIL
March 2, 1992
Anthony Tohill
12 First Street
Riverhead, NY 11901
RE: Narrow River
SCTM *1000-27-2-4
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Dear Mr. Tohill:
The Southold Town Trustees would like to extend to you and your
client the opportunity. to be heard at our next regular meeting
during the work session at 6:00p.m. on March 26, 1992.
However, as a question of liability to the Town exists in that
these pilings are the first private aids to navigation in the
open waters of the Town, we would ask that as a condition of
this meeting you have your client secure a rider to their
existing liability insurance policy naming the Southold Town
Trustees as the insured in the amount of 2, 000,000. 00 against
personal injury and property loss in the advent of person(s)
directly or indirectly colliding with them.
As the Trustees realize we are all trying to navigate
Hallock's Bay and not the rubicon, we will defer to this
meeting the question of whether it is appropriate to
characterize our decision(s) as unilateral.
Although we understand our application form was sent under
separate cover, we have included an additional one for your
use. Please call if you have any questions with respect to this
matter.
Very truly yours, a
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
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cc: Fred & Vincent Dacimo
Town Attorney
ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY B.TOHILL TELEPHONE:
P. O. BOX 1330
(516)727-8383
RALPH J.BAVARO
RIVEIiHEAD, NEW YOI3K 11901
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD TELECOPIER:
OF COUNSEL (516)727-6336
February 19, 1992
John M. Bredemeyer, III FEB 2 419T
President, Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
P. O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971 a
Dear Jay:
I have your February 14, 1992 letter concerning Narrow
River Marina in today' s mail . There was no enclosure such as you
mentioned in your third paragraph.
I have just returned from major surgery at Lenox Hill
Hospital: I work for an hour to an hour and a half each day
subject to doctor ' s approval and subject to certain medical tests
that will not take place until early March.
If you wish to proceed on the schedule outlined in the
last paragraph of your letter, you should let me know that you have
elected to take this position unilaterally without discussion and
without an opportunity to be heard. I will need to know this
information right away. Given my medical problems and given that
I have only received your letter today, there will not be any
submission within one month since I do not even have an opportunity
to consider whether or not I will make the submission at this time.
You can understand that given the information that I have on hand
it would be important to discuss with my clients their options . As
you may know, their options are multiple under the circumstances .
Very truly yours,
Anthony B. Tohill
ABT: l.s
TRUSTEES
b �
John M.Bredemeyer,III,President �� :,.,;> %� SUPERVISOR
Henry P. Smith,Vice President SCOTT L.HARRIS
Albert J.Krupski,Jr. . ` ''
John L.Bednoski Jr. Town Hall
John B.Tuthill ' = *'' 53095 Main Road
P.O.Box 1179
Telephone(516)765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Southold,New York 11971
Fax(516)765-1823 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
February 14, 1992.
Anthony B. Tohill
Attorney at Law
12 First Street
Riverhead, NY 11901
RE: Narrow River Marina
SCTM #1000-27-2-4
Dear MR. Tohill:
The Southold Town Trustees discussed the aids to navigation of
the Narrow River Marina at our January 16, 1992 meeting.
Although the Board will not endeavor to deny your client the
right to place navigation aids for the ordinary navigation needs
of the marina patrons, we will need to review an application for
a Trustee permit considering all relevant aspects of placement
of markers on Town property.
Enclosed for your use is a permit application used for Trustee
applications. Since it is not specific to navigation aids,
please submit a map showing the location of the
proposed/existing aids, their loran coordinates and their
dimensions.
Absent an application submitted within one month we will proceed
with legal action. There can be no further delays in this
matter.
Very truly yours,
ao_hn�M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
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cc: Town Attorney
Bay Constable
Fred and Vincent Dacimo, Narrow River Marina
Merlon Wiggins
�o��FFOLK��G SEP 2 3 1991
HARVEY A. ARNOFF O SCOTT L. HARRIS
Town Attorney = Supervisor
OF SOUTHOLD
MATTHEW G. KIERNAN y own Hall, 53095 Main Road
Assistant Town Attorney �,y` ��� P.O. Box 1179
0,[ il Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1800
OFFICE OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
INTER-OFFICE MEMORANDUM
TO: John M. Bredemeyer, III, President, Trustees
FROM: Matthew G. Kiernan, Assistant Town Attorney N� G
DATE: September 23, 1991
RE: Narrow River Marina
This is in response to your memorandum of September 9, 1991 with regard
to the above-referenced matter.
Please be advised that I have finally been able to track down both John
Courtney and David Gilmartin. Mr. Gilmartin is handling the appeal of this case
for the East Hampton Trustees and promised that he would forward to me copies of
all relevant papers including the appellate briefs submitted by both parties.
I will advise you when the papers have been received. If I can be of any
further assistance, please let me know.
cc: Harvey A. Arnoff, Town Attorney
FF�(
TRUSTEES
John M.Bredemeyer,III,President SUPERVISOR
Henry P. Smith,Vice President .4? �. k4 . SCOTT L.HARRIS
Albert J.Krupski,Jr.
John L.Bednoski,Jr. 116 Town Hall
John B.Tuthill "= b 53095 Main Road
P.O.Box 1179
Telephone(516)765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Southold,New York 11971
Fax(516)765-1823 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
TO: Harvey Arnoff, Town Attorney
Matt Kiernan, Assistant Town Attorney
FROM: John M. Bredemeyer, III, President
Board of Trustees ip
RE: Narrow River Marina = Aids to Navigation
DATE: September 9, 1991 -
As per our brief discussion Friday September 6, 1991 concerning
verbal information I received from Anthony Tohill, Esquire
alleging potentially damaging litigation he has won against the
East Hampton Trustees: I have found from a conversation with
John Courtney, Esquire, Attorney to the East Hampton Trustees,
that Mr. Tohill in fact won a case against the East Hampton
Trustees in Town Court which is now being appealed by special
attorney for the case David Gilmartin. ,
Could you please contact Mr. Courtney and Mr. Gilmartin as
we have temporarily suspended initiating enforcement against
Narrow River Marina pending a review of this matter.
If we are not prepared to make a decision by our September
26th Special meeting the Board will seek outside council in
this matter. I will be available most Thursday and Friday
afternoons ( late) . Please leave word with Jill for a convenient
time that we can meet.
cc: Trustees
ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY B.TOHILL TELEPHONE
P. O. BOX 1330 :
(516)727-8383
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD
OF COUNSEL RIVERHEAD, NEW YOEK 11901
TELECOP I ER:
(516)727-6336
August 22, 1991
Board of Town Trustees V
P.U. Box 1179
Southold, New York . 11971 ,LIAWW2 6IM
Attention: Jill `
"'WHOLo
RE: Narrow River Marina am 21j..
Dear Jill:
Enclosed is my office check payable to "The Trustees of
the Town of Southold" in a sum not to exceed twenty-five dollars.
Would you please copy the below listed documents and then
complete the amount portion of the check, sending a note back to
me with the copied materials listed below indicating how much the
amount was when you completed the check. I am always grateful
for your cooperation.
!Ast of documents requested:
Minutes of Trustees, August 24, 1989
Minutes of Trustees, February 22, 1990
--,Check-off list on inside left side of Trustee ' s file
✓folder for Narrow River Marina
LZopy of letter from Don Densikowski, dated June 26,
1991
vEopy of letter of Stewart Horton, dated April 18, 1990
\/Copy of letter of John Bredemeyer to DEC dated
March 27, 1990
(,Minutes of any meeting at which a resolution was
adopted by Trustees as described at Page 3 of
August 2, 1991 letter from John Bredemeyer to the
undersigned, and a copy of that resolution.
I would appreciate if you could prepare these documents
and forward them promptly.
Very truly yours,
ANTHONY B. TOHILL
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ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY B.TOHILL P. 0. BOX 1330 TELEPHONE:
(516)727-8383
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD
OF COUNSEL RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901
TELECO P I ER:
(516)727-6336
August 22, 1991
John M. Bredemeyer III, President
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
RE: Narrow River Marina - Your letter of
August 2, 1991
Dear Jay:
I was disappointed to receive the letter in caption. I
believe that there is an erroneous analysis of the file and the
Board's jurisdiction evident in that letter. I have tried
repeatedly to reach you at the Health Department telephone
number. Today is Thursday, and I have tried for four successive
days, at least three times each day, to reach you at 852-2100 .
That phone line has never been open to receive a telephone call,
and has been persistently busy. This is frustrating, since it is
important that I be able to communicate with you, given the power
you are asserting in your letter of August 2, 1991. Is there a
way to make an appointment to see you where I don't have to
depend upon your Health Department telephone number?
In the meantime, please understand that I do not agree
with any of the positions or conclusions reached in your letter
of August 2, 1991, accepting that indeed the nature of a Chapter
32 application is no more than a ministerial task, particularly
on this record.
Very truly yours,
ANTHONY B. TOHILL
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Robert Gordon 401 First Avenue New York, N.Y. 10010 212 725-8761
August 13, 1991
Mr. John M Bredemeyer III
President, Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
PO Box 1179 53095 Main Road
Southold, NY 11971 `
Dear Mr. Bredemeyer:
As a thirty-year resident and property owner in orient, I have not pre-
viously put my views of public affairs forward since I did not feel I had any par-
ticular expertise to offer. At this time however, there is an issue in which I
have interest, experionce an.d insight to uffCl'"1Nniuh I believe will be helpful to
you and your colleagues.
I refer to the staking and revivifying of the old potato channel in
Halleck's Creek. I have sailed in the creek for almost thirty years, and kept
boats at Narrow River Marina as far back as the days in which it was known as Ed
King's Marina. During all those years, old timers spoke of the channel, which had
been there since commercial boats used it to load potatoes at a point close to the
location of the marina. Most boaters no longer knew its path, and used an alter-
nate, longer way to Orient Bay.
Staking the old channel is a service only to the small-boat sailors and plea-
sure boaters who use Narrow River Marina, and is of no use to others. The
channel's present depth of 4 feet does not allow access to larger boats. It only
makes access more convenient and safe for those few who have always used Narrow
River Marina. Having a clearly marked channel will protect any shellfish beds
which may possibly revive in the shallows of the Creek, over which we would fre-
quently drag our centerboards and outboard motor propellers in the absence of a
marked channel.
The new stakes are neat, well-kept, not unsightly, and lead to a marina
whose limited depth and capacity prevent the influx of large boats. I don't be-
lieve that restoring the old channel will cause any problems for the environment
or the users of Halleck's Creek.
On the other hand, a serious problem which exists at present, and not in
some imaginary future, is the roaring into and around the creek of super-fast pow-
erboats, jet-skis and other noisy and dangerous speed-vehicles. These are a visual
disturbance, a noise problem and definitely dangerous. They are not from the area
bordering the creek, but use its sheltered water anyway. If you wish to deal with
a real and present problem, perhaps you could deal with that one.
Thanks for considering these views, and for your efforts in behalf of the
town, which are very much appreciated.
Sincerely y s,
i
Robert Gordlon G
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TRUSTEES V
John M.Bredemeyer,III,Presidents SUPERVISOR
Henry P. Smith,Vice President '� ' SCOTT L.HARRIS
Albert J.Krupski,Jr. ��
John L.Bednoski,Jr. ` � s. � Town Hall
John B.Tuthill - 53095 Main Road
P.O.Box 1179
Telephone(516)765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Southold,New York 11971
Fax(516)765-1823 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
August 2, 1991
Anthony B. Tohill
Attorney At Law
12 First Street
Riverhead, NY 11901
RE: Narrow River Marina
SCTM #1000-27-2-4
Dear o
As promised in my letter of July 22, 1991 herein you will find a
detailed account why the Southold Trustees do not consider any
permit is in force for the Aids to Navigation recently installed
by the Narrow River Marina, Orient.
NEED FOR A PERMIT-Statutory Authority, Board Policy, Processing
The Southold Trustees routinely require permits for activities
in and near Tidal and Freshwater wetlands within the Town (Town
Code Chapter 97) and permits governing activities related to our
historic. grant of underwater lands under the Andros Patent
( 1676) as affirmed in the NYS Laws of 1893 and Town Code
Chapter 32.
As a matter of efficiency and simplicity the Town Trustees
routinely process a single uniform permit application when both
Chapter 97 (wetlands) and Chapter 32 (Boats,Docks, Wharves)
permission are required. Although activities applied for under
Chapter 32 are ministerial in nature and would not ordinarily
require a public hearing, the Board in practice has often
afforded the public a hearing when we are, aware that community
concerns are many or when the Board deems it appropriate to
conduct business in a new or precedent setting area.
In addition to their ministerial nature most applications for
permits under Chapter 32 are Type II actions under the State
Environmental Quality Review Act (S.E.Q.R.A. ) . This policy
covers all single stakes and moorings installed under our
Andros Patent Control (Chapter 32) whether single, double or
aggregate groupings over Trustee lands. This is consistent with
theNYS Department. of Environmental Conservation policy of
not requiring a permit for single stakes and individual moorings.
All uniform applications and those processed solely under
Chapter 97 or 32 (when not Type II actions) are processed
pursuant to Town and State S.E.Q.R.A. Complete application
notices required under these codes have recently been developed
to- help avoid confusion of the type associated with this
application.
It is the position of the Trustees developed at our July 11,
1991 meeting and by our precedents herein outlined above that
the Narrow River Marina must secure a permit under Chapter 32
(Boats, Docks and Wharves) for the installation of pilings as
navigation aids on Trustee underwater land in Hallocks Bay
(Long Beach Bay) , Orient.
REVIEW OF THE FILE-Why a permit under Chapter 32 does not exist
Although the uniform Chapter 97,32 application filed on July 24,
1989 by Peconic .Associates, Inc. on behalf of Narrow River
Marina included a covering letter mentioning the Channel
markers, and page 1 and page 2 "maps" and photographs depicting
them, the body .of the permit application contains no reference
to markers in the required verbal description routinely used by
the Board for meeting agenda and public hearing entries.
The application process led to the submission of an amended page
1 map pursuant to numerous pre- and post-submission
conferences between the applicant/owner and community. During
these conferences the navigation aids on this page were
specifically discussed and were changed to floating temporary
markers as opposed to the stakes in order to facilitate ice boat
launchings. The page 1 area includes the confines of the marina
proper and is where all of the dredging activity took place.
The page 1 map was the only amended map. approved by Board vote
during our permit and SEQRA review at our February 13, 1990
meeting. This was because we were aware of strong objections by
the community and the NYSDEC to dredging proposed on map page
2 which also included all the proposed stakes we now see in
Hallocks Bay. Absent submission of an amended page two map
removing the dredging questioned by the NYSDEC, the Board
never considered page two part of the active application as we
proceeded with SEQRA and permitting. If the verbal description
had been complete I am sure a discussion of the stakes would
have ensued as a matter of necessity to clarify the application.
The absence however, of a verbal description and a page two
amendment gave the impression that the stakes had been dropped
along with the questioned dredging. This false impression was
certainly inadvertent by the applicant and was a function. of
several minor errors compounded by the extremely intense look
taken by the Board on dredging and sanitation issues in the area
of the page 1 map. The public, applicant and Board were simply
i
just too absorbed in page 1 discussions to pick up on
inadvertent omissions creating the pattern and effect of a
purposeful deletion.
Since there was no numbered agenda item entry or public hearing
entry which, included the words"aid to navigation" , "pilings" , or
"markers" no public discussion was had on this matter. .
Additionally, the applicant was never asked to remit the permit
fees associated with permanent stakes installed on Trustee lands.
REQUEST FOR PERMIT-Chapter 32 (Boats, Docks, Wharves)
r
The Board of Trustees has unanimously approved a resolution that
you submit us a Chapter 32 application for the installation of
channel markers in Hallocks Bay. As per my letter to you of
July 22, 1991, we wish to have the required final surveys of the
dredging submitted to this office for a compliance inspection by
the Bay Constable.
As Board records show that the public only new of and commented
on the dredging proposal; we feel that once the aforementioned
dredge permit compliance is established, this file should be
closed to further amendment.
The installation of aids to navigation shall be treated as a
separate permit application. Enclosed is a Chapter 32 permit
application for your use. In addition the Board requests that
you submit us copies of applications submitted to the USCOE
and the Coast Guard for the navigation markers as presently
configured.
Absent receipt of an application or the legal equivalent thereof
and the final surveys required in the existing town permit
within 30 calendar days of receipt of this letter, I will be
obligated to have the Board consider enforcement proceedings
under Chapter 97/32 as appropriate. The Board has decided that
the public will be afforded a "public hearing" on any permit
action for this- proposal.
Thank you for your cooperation in these matters.
Very truly yours,
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
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cc: Town Attorney
Bay Constable
Fred Dacimo.
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ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY B.TOHILL TELEPHONE:
_ P. O. BOX 1330 (516)727-6383
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD
OF COUNSEL RIVERHEAD, NEW FORK 11901
T ELECOPI ER:
(516)727-6336
July 29, 1991
Mr. John M. Bredemeyer III
President, Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
Town Hall
P .O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
RE: Narrow River Marina - Your letter of July 22, 1991
Dear Mr. Bredemeyer:
Please be advised that Narrow River Marina will submit
a soundings survey within ninety days of the completion of the
dredging.
Very truly yours,
-4;h r
ANTHONY B. TOHILL
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TRUSTEES �o�pS�FFOC,��OG
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John M.Bredemeyer,III,President c SUPERVISOR
Henry P. Smith,Vice President ,� SCOTT L.RABBIS
Albert J.Krupski,Jr.
John L.Bednoski,Jr. 't1Q1 �.a� Town Hall
John B.Tuthill 53095 Main Road
P.O.Box 1179
Telephone(516)765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Southold,New York 11971
Fax(516)7654823 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
July 22, 1991
Anthony B. Tohill, P.C.
Attorneys At Law
12 First Street
P.O. Box 1330
Riverhead, NY 11901
RE: Narrow River Marina
Dear Mr. Tohill:
With respect to your letter of July 3 , 1991 concerning Narrow
River Marina; I am presently preparing a formal Board response
as a result of the Boards review 'of the file at our regular
meeting on July 11, 1991.
In the interim, I would like to bring to your attention the need
of your clients to provide this office with an accurate as-built
survey of the completed dredge project as required in their
permit (photo copy of letters of 2/27/90 and 6/4/90 provided) .
To date we have not seen these plans which you will note should
be submitted within 90 days of the completion of the dredging.
The soundings used for these surveys should be at no more than
1 ' (one foot) increments.
Thank you for your cooperation ih these matters.
Very truly yours,
��
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
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cc: Bay Constable
Robert Thurber.
Fred Dacimo
Merlon Wiggins
o�oS�FFo���o
TRUSTEES
John M.Bredemeyer,III,President cz r�� SUPERVISOR
Henry P. Smith,Vice President o SCOTT L.HARRIS
Albert J.Krups1d,Jr. -,1, • �`�
John L. Bednos1d,Jr. '�1Q1 �a0 Town Hall
John B.Tuthill 53095 Main Road
P.O.Box 1179
Telephone(516)765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Southold,New York 11971
Fax(516)765-1823 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
July 11, 1991
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RE: Narrow River Marina
The following action was taken by the Southold Town Board of
Trustees at the regular meeting of July 11, 1991:
On a motion made by TRUSTEE SMITH and seconded by TRUSTEE
TUTHILL it was RESOLVED that the' Southold Town Board of Trustees
request that a permit application under Chapter 32 of the Town
Code be submitted for the aids to navigation for Narrow River
Marina.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
ANTHONY B. TOHILL, P.G.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW JUL .. 5 1991
12 FIRST STREET
ANTHONY B.TOHILL P. O. BOX 1330 TOWN OF SOUND 3
MICHAEL T.CLIFFORD OF COUNSEL RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901
(]f1 TELECOPIER:
July 3, 19 91 (5I6)727-6336
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John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
Town of Southold F , >.
WON-
53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Dear Jay:
Narrow River Marina is a client of this office and has
consulted me with respect to the questions raised concerning the
omission of the channel markers from the Trustees ' permit.
To the extent that the dredging and all other work has
been completed, and to the further extent that the Trustees have
the power to approve channel markers, the proper procedure here
would not be to file a new permit application but instead for the
Trustees to adopt an amendatory curative resolution. No further
ceremony is required, since the problem is only clerical and the
owner has acquired protected vested rights in reliance upon all
of the previously issued permits.
I am copying Matt Kiernan with this letter requesting
that he discuss the point with me when he has a chance and that
he provide you with guidance accordingly. I will be happy to
discuss the matter with you as well when you wish.
Very truly yours,
1-
Anthony B. Tohill
ABT/b aw
cc; Matt Kiernan
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TRUSTEES
John M.Bredeme er III President i'
Y � ,- . � a=.`� -4 SUPERVISOR
.;
Henry P. Smith,Vice President "' L' *. , ; SCOTT L.RABBIS
Albert J.Krupski,Jr. '� =` '
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John L.Bednoski,Jr. Town Hall
John B.Tuthill 53095 Main Road
P.O.Box 1179
Telephone(516)765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Southold,New York 11971
Fax(516)765-1823 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
July 1, 1991
To: Supervisor Scott L. Harris
Members, Southold Town Board
From: John M. Bredemeyer, III, Presi e
Southold Town Trustees
Re: Speed Limit; Channel to Narrow River Marina
As a question has been raised as to the permit status of the private
aids to navigation now in place for Narrow River Marina, you may wish
to consider forestalling or conditioning any vote on speed limits there
on Trustee and Coast Guard final' approvals.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter.
cc: Board of Trustees
New York State Department of Environmental Cons
ervation
Building 40—SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11790-2356
(516)759-1389 D a U
JUN 2 8 1991
Thomas C. Jorling
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD. Commissioner
Juna 26, 1991
Narrow River Marina
Narrow River Rd.
Orient, N.Y. 11957
Attn: Fred Dacimo
RE: NYSDEC Permit # 10-89-0209
Dear Mr. Dacimo:
It has come to DEC's attention that the U.S. Army Corps permit
authorizes dredging in an area not approved by NYSDEG for dredging.
The DEC permit is only for dredging the marina and immediate
approach channel (a maximum of 400' seaward of the dock at the
marina.
You are advised not to conduct unauthorized work as such work
would be in violation of New York State's Environmental Conservation
Law Article 25 (Tidal Wetlands) and Article 15 (Protection of Waters) .
Under Article 71 (Enforcement) conducting unauthorized work is
punishable by a fine up to $ 10,000.00_ per 'day under the Tidal
Wetlands Act and by a fine of up to $5,000.00 per day under the
Protection of Waters Act.
Both you and the contractor would be liable.
You agreed upon DEC suggestion to relocate the channel to the
west of ."area #2" into existing deeper water.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Very truly yours,
Robert N. Thurber
Senior Environmental Analyst
RNT/rw
cc:. Bredeme� aI�II'""
USACOE (J. Haggerty)
M. Persand
G. Stadnik
file
POLICE
�<< POLICE DEPARTMENT, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
ADMINISTRATIVE PECONIC NY 11958
TELEPHONE516 765-2600
EMERGENCY DIAL 911 516 734-6022 Sronley DrosliosW
CHIEF OF POLICE
To: Judith Terry , Town Clerk O �. D W I
From: Donald Dzenkowski
Senior Bay Constable 1991IMI
Re: Speed Limit For Hallocks Bay TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Date: June 26, 1991
I would like to request the Town Board
to pass a resolution establishing a 5 MPH speed limit in the
newly marked North Channel of Hallocks Bay , Orient.
cc: Town Attorney
Board of Trustees
New York State Cep artment of Environmental Conservation
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Building 40—SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11790-2356
° 516)751-7900
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Thomas C. Jorling
Commissioner
June 20 , 1990
Mr. Merlon Wiggin
President JUI� 2 7 l�
Peconic Associates Inc. L�� i
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One Bootle AlleyP.O.Box 672 �C
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Greenport, NY 11944 ��� °�� �►a �
Re: NYSDEC Application #10-89-0209
Narrow River Marina Dredging - Orient, NY
Dear Mr. Wiggin:
In response to your letter dated June 4, 1990, please note
that this office sent you a letter (also dated June 4, 1990) ,
requesting the same information and ,revisions to the plans
previously called for in our letter dated April 11, 1990 .
In addition, please submit information explaining how the
existing marina area has the capacity, for up to 75 boats, within
its present physical limit, without expanding further into the
bay.
If all the information and revisions are submitted so that
the project is fully and acceptably represented, the permit can II
then be issued. I
If you 'have any questions, please call Robert Thurber at
751-7900 ext. 346, or George Stadnick at 751-8468. t
Sincerel
F
Harold D. Berger
Regional Director
HDB:jf
cc: Assemblyman Joseph Sawicki
F. Dacimo
J. Bredemeyer V
A. Machlin
R. Thurber
G. Stadnick
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New York State Department of Environmental Co_ns_ervation __.
Region 1 Headquarters , ��•; ' br-`
SUNY, Building 40, Stony Brook, NY41-!8411790-2356
(516) 751-1389k �
�� � 3 �� � � r� Thomas C. Jorling
Commissioner
. - June 4;1990
Mr. Merlon Wiggins
Peconic Associates
P. 0. Box 672 One Bootleg Alley
Greenport, N. Y. 11944
RE: NYSDEC Application No. 10-89-0209, Narrow River Marina Dredging
Dear Mr. Wiggins:
The Department has reviewed your submittals received May 8, 1990. Please
refer to the comments in my letter to you dated April 11 , 1990 and its attached
sketch showing acceptable (to DEC) dredge area (enclosed) with regards to the
previous and following comments:
1. Dredging plans
a. Your latest plans do not conform with the sketch sent you.
Please revise to eliminate those areas shown inked out in
red on a copy of your latest revision showing the acceptable
dredge area superimposed on it (highlighted in yellow) .
NOTE: Seaward of the dredged channel the channel would
simply be marked thru the 4. 1 '-4.3'-4.0 area (no dredging) .
b. Dredging in the southeast corner of the marina still must
be reduced by 15' (also inked out in red) .
c. Relocate the channel on Sheet 2 in existing deeper water to
avoid -3.2' shoal and rocks, avoiding a perceived "need" to
dredge.
sw e. Describing the spoil site containment measures still needs
to be shown on the plans and a cross-section view of these
as is the cross-section for dredging.
g. Names of adjoining landowners still need to be identified
on the plans as requested before (also stated on basic
checklist pg.: 2: A # 1, enclosed) .
2. The marina plot -Plan indicates spaces for 68 boats. Unless you
can show the- existing marina area has space for additional boats
NYSDEC would approve the mooring of only 68 boats or that number
up to 75 which can be shown to reasonably fit into the existing
marina area.
1� 31900
Merlon Wiggins `, jU4 I
June 4, 1990
Page 2
The changes and information requested in my April 11th letter parts 1(d) ,
1(f) , 1(h) , 2, 3, 4 and 5 have been submitted. .
Upon receipt of all the requested changes and information as indicated
above and revised acceptable plans DEC can issue a permit with special conditions.
Please respond by July 15, 1990. Thank you for your cooperation.
Very truly yours,
Robert N. Thurber
Senior Environmental Analyst
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enclosures
cc: F. Dacimo (w/enc.)
J. Bredemeyer (w/enc.)
M. Infurna (w/enc.)
M. Persand (w/enc.)
P. Wenczel (w/enc.)
G. Stadnick
D. Ninivaggi
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Mr. Merlon Wiggins !
Peconic Associates
P.O. Box 672 One bootleg Alley f ;E
Greeport, NY 11944 ! �;
Re: NYSDEC App. No. 10-89-0209
Narrow River Marina dredging '
Dear Mr. Wiggins:
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This is to confirm the nature of our meeting on April 6, 1990 at the
marina that the following is needed:
1. Revised and re-dated dredging plans (four copies) as follows:
(a) The dredging will be limited to the marina itself and the 30'. wide
approach channel which is to be equidistant from the north and south
shores.
(b) Dredging in the southeasterly corner of 'the marina is to be reduced ;
by 15' so as to provide adequate buffer .between the dredging area
and the intertidal marsh fring-- (see enclosure) .
(c) There will be no dredging in the southerly channel (on sheet 2) as
the channel will be remarked in the existing deeper area to the
west.
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(d) There will be no dredging to the Town launching ramp.
(e) A descfi?tion of spoil site containment measures: double row of
staked haybales and use of a filter cloth liner of the base and
sides to prevent leaching across the surface of the parking .lot
under the hay bales; two metal stakes per bale driven 1' i t the
ground. See attgched memo Aegatcding neeove�ey expense anda '.teAhati.ve
(f) Revised qua-rity of dredge spoil for the above described reduced pro-
ject -,in cubic ya ztz and method o� dAegding noted on ptam.
property J g s'
(g) Addedlines and notation of who adjoining landowne�' �.are.
s' IT
Mr. Merlon Wiggins
Re: 10-89-0209 JUN 13 1990
April 11, 1990
Page 2
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/J (h) A revised closure line. Please check with the Bureau of Shellfisheries ,
to confirm the actual closure line.
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2. A marina plot plan on survey at a scale(in range of 1"-50' to 1 `20)
appropriate to show the following details:
(a) capacity of marina to be at (_Ol-close to) 75 boats.
(b) size and shape of slips. -
(c)' the two boat ramps at the marina.
(d) limit line of the marina as designated by the trustees.
3. A copy of the Town 9/5/65 Zoning restriction (Appeal #1424) limiting the
marina to 75 boats.
4. A copy of your reply to Mohahir Persaud's (of NYSDOS) letter requesting
information.
5. A copy of the restrictive covenant for this marina that there will be no
moving of boats with `.'marine sanitary devices" (toilets) at this marina.
Upon receipt of the above materials and acceptable revised plans, DEC considers
that a permit with special conditions can' be issued.
The cooperation and participation of everyone at the meeting was very help-
ful and much appreciated.
Very truly yours,
ROBERT N. . THURBER
Senior Environmental Analyst
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John M.-Bredemeyer, III, President
Henry P. Smith, Vice President
. � Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Albert J. Krupski, Jr. P.O. Box 1179
John L. Bednoski, Jr. ` `
John B. Tuthill Southold, New York 11971
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone (516) 765-1800
June 4, 1990
Merlon E. Wiggin, President
Peconic Associates, Inc.
1 Bootleg Alley, P.O. Box 672
Greenport, NY -11944
Dear Mr. Wiggin:
The Southold Town Trustees recently received a copy of the
completed consistency review form from the State of New York
Department of State (attached) .
As the Trustees require a copy of the amended map as submitted
to the DEC to make our permit file complete, please submit same
if you have not already done so.
With respect to item number 3 on the New York Department of
State consistency review form, please be advised that any
re-seeding of the bottom of Hallocks Bay will require permission
from this Board.
Sincerely,
mum
John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
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Trustees
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STATE OF NEW YORK
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
GAIL S.SNAPPER ALBANY. N.Y. 1 223 1-000 1
SECRETARY OF STATE
May 16, 1990
Mr. Merlon Wiggin
President
Peconic Associates, Inc.
P.O. Box 672
Greenport, NY 11944
Re: F-89-516
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York
District Permit Application 89-0828-L2
Narrow River Marina
Town of Southold
Dear Mr. Wiggin:
The Department of State has completed its evaluation of your Federal
Consistency Assessment Form and certification that the above proposed permit
activity complies with New York State's approved Coastal Management Program,
and will be conducted in a manner consistent with this program-. -
Pursuant -to 15 CFR Section 930.63, and based upon the project information
submitted, the Department of State concurs with your consistency certification
subject to the following conditions:
1) The proposed work shall be carried out according to the revised plans
dated 5/3/90.
2) In order to minimize adverse water quality impacts in Long Beach Bay
(Hallocks Bay), no dredging shall take place between April 1 and
September 30 of any calendar year.
3) All DEC certified shellfishing areas that are disturbed during this
dredging shall be re-seeded upon completion of the activity.
This concurrence is without prejudice to, and does not obviate the need to
obtain all other applicable licenses, permits, and approvals required under
existing State statutes.
! w 1(ork State Department of Environmental Conservation ' ?;
Building 40 ' SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11794 a
APR 18 1990 ► { ;;; .
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April 11, ]990 oprnmissioner
Mr. Merlons Wiggins
Peconic Associates
P.O. Box 672 One bootleg Alley
Greeport, NY 11944
'Re: NYSDEC App. No. 10-89-0209
Narrow River Marina dredging a� ;i?� •
Dear Mr. Wiggins:
This is to confirm the nature of our meeting on April 6, 1990 at the;;
marina that the following is needed:
1. Revised and re-dated dredging plans (four copies) as follows: I!
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(a) The dredging will be limited to the marina itself and the 30":' wide
approach channel which is to be equidistant from the north and south ;?'::
shores.
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(b) Dredging in the southeasterly corner of 'the marina is to be "reduced
by 15' so as to provide adequate buffer between the dredging area
and the intertidal marsh fringe (see enclosure) :
(c) There will be no dredging in the southerly channel (on sheet 2) as
the channel will be remarked in the existing deeper area to the
west.
(d) There will be no dredging to the ToHnz launching ramp.
.(e) h descii?dtion of spoil site containment measures: double row. of
staked haybales and use of a filter cloth liner of the base and ;±
sides to prevent leaching across the surface of the parking lot
under the hay bales; two metal stakes per bale driven 1' 1 to the
n y:
ground. See attached memo negaxding eeove�c.y expense an nteAftatii e
(f) Revised quad!ity of dredge spoil for the above described reduced pro- ? :
ject .tin cubic yands and method ob dte9di.ng noted on ptarus,
(g) Added property lines and notation of who adjoining landowner,: ;are.
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Mr. Merlon Wiggins j�. ;•
Re: 10-89-0209
April '11, '.1990
Page 2'
(h) A revised closure line. Please check with the Bureau of Sh�ellfisheries ';!•
to confirm the actual' closure line.
2. A marina lot plan on survey at a scale "- 'p p y (in range of 1 50 to ljf:-20)
appropriate to show the following details: ill;
(a) capacity of marina to be at (_OlLclose to) 75 boats.
(b) size and shape of slips. li
(c)' the two boat ramps at the marina.
(d) limit line of the marina as designated by the trustees. ;.
3. A copy of the Town 9/5/65 Zoning restriction (Appeal #1424 limiting the
marina to 75 boats.
4. A copy of your reply to Mohahir Persaud's (of NYSDOS) letter requesting
information.
5. A copy of the restrictive covenant for this marina that there will be no
moving of boats with "marine sanitary devices" (toilets) at thi's marina.
Upon..receipt of the above materials and acceptable revised plans, DEC considers '1
that a permit with special conditions can be issued.
The cooperation and participation of everyone at the meeting was very help-
ful and much appreciated. ;
Very truly yours,
,f.
ROBERT N. THURBER I
Senior Environmental Analyst
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S. Mars/with enc. F. Wachsberger/with enc.
M. Persuad lwu th enc. G. Latham, Jr./with enc.
J. Holzaptel/with enc. G. Stadnick
P. Wenczel/with enc. D. Ninivaggi
M. Davidson
NE,w YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL �:ONSERVATION�ii i
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SUBJ",I F'r'{ oosciid dredging of Narrow River Marina, adjacent -,-PI' Long
Beach Bav DECI.t;•.I ,(i
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Fob .(.I`ur.l:er ictr' d 1 I'ac.ve discussed the results of a re;gQ
meeting ng r-ei3e:ardi.l" n the subject proposal .. I Pl<3`1e the 'f,_,.i low3'.Ah 1'
comiTll=btsi and suggestions regarding conditions for ..this peY'`fil'1'tC !i� I,t
i. As I have already ,pointed out , 'the oroposed sucli ."„ ! !1
Watering site is adjacent to, and at a higher el. evAion
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haI"1, `:Jta,'t:ei; lands 't•ii the si.iutI"1 and privately held malY'1'c'_`hbs t��
`l:he north. Therefore, I ,still have my doubts that 'th& ,hay N, {;
bales and filter cloth prop osedtocontain the miteri',aal lit
provide sufficient assurance that sediment will not Onter
s t•' !
�',r-�<.zit: :ive:= areas. Some� of the drainage from 'the dewatt✓r ing �� .',
Area still seems likely to entcar the State lands, whichi;'
would not be accept•ablf•? to this office. In additions i 'F t.I
'l':C:'mpor'ary berms are not: Uw(a_d to ensure that drainage ifrom 14 ,.
t h(i i't e go e:,s e?a iio'I: . l I"1't��� 't I'l e r '1 V es'T . is f r3 1.I U r(? r�'F the 7".C�l4 S �Y�f 'a!
hay bale, would result in the spillige of large appynts
. of sediment . 1 1'i c-' applicant h oe..l l d understand t l'i at as n y
rl,r.'ilter' ial t:l..,<-at: enters the State lards must be 'removed :'art his
ei:xoe3nse. This removal would have to be done by hand. :'tca
avoid damage to the::. ✓e:_L1e:-'ta'tioh. This e;sense would pr��•�bably
beor ea'tei'r than the construction of a 't_emporary berm: ;
r�:. •• Given 't:l'-IG? potential pr�_�bl.emh outlined in item 1 , above, '
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thenei3�'r'rrli't: should be conditioned su�_h. that this ��ffiC.e�
Is given one business day' s notice before the. start
fJGi;wat:er a.l" n operations.. so that the work can be monitored.
' failure of the applicant to pr'even't all from
drainage
otherotherI'll
-f other effluent from the operation from entering State
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lcAJ,e:.s should be made grounds for the immediate cessation A ?i i
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141ork on the project . Work sl'iou.ld not .restart until the State
lands are restored,
_ ..._ As noted previously, adequate buffer should- be
Maintained d between the dredge areas and the ar_I.j qAt
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March 28, 1990 ��
Mr. Merlon Wiggin _ . ...
Peconic Associates, Inca j
One Bootley Alley f << }S
P.O. Box 672 f ,
Greenport, NY 11944 fr' APR - 31990
Re: F-89-516
U.S. Army Corps of Eng ersyl.Ii1 ork
District Permit Application -
Narrow River Marina
Town of Southold
Request for Additional Information
Dear Mr. Wiggin:
Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.58, the following data and information is necessary
to enable the Department of State to adequately assess the coastal zone effects
of this proposed project.
1) Please indicate the number, sizes, and drafts of the crafts presently
using this marina. Are they power boats or sail boats?
2) Please indicate on a plan where previous dredging was done, both
inside and outside of the marina basin. It would be helpful if you
can indicate the dates and the agency responsible for the previous
dredging.
3) Is the siltation of the marina basin and adjacent areas coming mainly
from the drain pipe, the town ramp or agricultural runoff? If it is
the former two, what steps are being taken to reduce the adverse
surface water quality impacts from these point sources.
4) Please provide a diagram of the shellfish concentration in the
immediate vicinity of the area to be dredged, especially in the waters
certified for shellfishing. Perhaps a survey will be necessary to
determine this and also the grain size distribution.
5) Please explore the possibility of reducing the amount of dredging by
eliminating all dredging in the channel where the soundings indicate
depths of greater than -4' MLW. See attached map for guidance.
Mr. Merlon Wiggin
March 28, 1990
Page 2
6) A distribution of sediment type map (sand, silt, etc. ) and a grain
size analysis map would also be needed to assess the impacts of the
dredging in this significant habitat area that is open to
shellfishing.
7) It is also be necessary to indicate that no further expansion of the
marina is anticipated in the near future without the requisite
regulatory approvals.
Please provide the information requested above to the Department of State
within thirty days from the date of this letter. Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.64(d) ,
if this necessary data and information is not provided, the Department of State
may object to your consistency certification on the grounds of insufficient
information.
Any additional information which you believe will facilitate our `
consistency review of this project .would be appreciated.
A copy of this letter has been sent to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
Please call me at (518) 474-3642 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Mohabir Persaud
Coastal Processes
Technical Specialist
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Cc: COE/NY District - Michael Infurna
NYS DEC/Region 1 - Robert Greene
Town of Southold - Valeri Scopaz
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Envirorimcatal Planners A Consultants'. "',0ht&oticyAUey P.O.Sox 672
Giccaport,New York 11944
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GREENPORT, L. I., N. Y. 11944 TO��YYiNI rjn"
April 2, 1990
Mr. Robert N. Thurber,
Senior Envirarmental Analyst,
New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation,
SUNY, Building 40,
Stony Brook, -New York 11749
Dear Mr. Thurber:
My letter to you concerns the proposed dredging in Long Beach Bay
(Hallock's Bay) at the Narrow River Marina. As you know this project
was reviewed by the Southold Town Trustees, public hearings held and a
positive affirmation was issued by way of a town permit. Your office,
I understand, coneured with the town's position and was responsible by
insistence that the linear channel be place where it is now located on
project maps and you had no objection to the originally proposed length
nor objection to the modified length of this passage.
Subsequent to your postion which the owners took and were encourage by;
that your office was satisfied and they could proceed upon town approval,
it appears that some local politiking- has appeared, and thats what it
is, that has caused your office to bend your parameters as measured by
certain changes you now want to occur in this project. This does not
seem quite fair to the owners who have spent a considerable amount of
time, effort, and money to obtain the necessary approvals. One should
not go backon ones word whether individual or of the body politic.
I am writing this letter as an individual who served on an ad hoc citizens
committee to investigate this• project and report to the Southold Town
Trustees and to The Oysterponds Rod & Gun Club, Inc. of which I am the
Treasurer. In our review we did independent depth measurements, we also
relocated the drains of flues that have been silted in and which for many
years carried their sorry load of good topsoil into Narrow River. Many
Orient individuals and members of The Oysterponds Rod & Gun Club, Inc.
were concerned that this project would. lead to the opening of the entrance
to the bay or increase the size of the marina. I .believe our reports
back to these persons showed this Jhis was not the case and laid their
fears to rest; in fact many endorsed the project and The Oysterponds Rod
& Gun Club, Inc. , which was polled, endorses this project without any
reservations. The reason for this is the location of the marina and the
minor amount of dredging to be done. In addition the removal of decades
long deposition of topsoil and silt will only help improve the health of
.the bay by removing residual pesticides and fertilizers that have for so
many years fouled the bay. The Narrow River silt deposition is all this
and should probably be removed in much greater number than the small
amount which will result from the proposed dredging operations.
The recent letters you have recieved along with the petition do fiot
state fairly the Orient residents views. The petition was collected
hastily and scare tatics were used in the above mentioned form even
going so far that it wouldallow acess for another marina. This is local
politics tha�dnuld be taken at face value. Secondly ''!le letters from
the Orient Association are singularly written by the President. Mrs.
Wachsberger. As I understand they were not authorized by the board of
directors .and were never reviewed. by the corresponding secretary of this
body. There was non polling' of themembership to ascertain their feelings
or their understanding of what was involved here and a critical position
was taken on an important issue without the permission of the organization:
as a whole. I can well understand- the quandry you and department staff
are in as you do not really know the situation.-here in Orient. What you
need is "Our man in Havana" on the local scene.. or resort to public hear.,
ings on every project you undertake.
It is my understanding that a meeting concerning this project is now
scheduled for this Frtda '.- i I have been invited to attend and will if at
all possible. Also the President of The Oysterponds Rod & Gun Club, Inc. ,
Mr. Edmund White will endeavour to attend.
I hope my comments will help to clarify a bit. of what is going on in
Orient and will be helpful in your decision making process.
Yours most sincerely;
y
Stewart W.Y. Horton
SWYH:sh
Copies: Jay Bredemeyer, President
Southold Town Trustees 2.
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TRUSTEES T SCOTT L. HARRIS
John M. Bredemeyer, III, President y0`• Supervisor
Henry P. Smith, Vice President ��01 `��� Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
P.O. Box 1179
John L. Bednoski, Jr.
John B. Tuthill Southold, New York 11971
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone (516) 765-1800
March 30, 1990
RE: Narrow River Marina, Narrow River Road, Orient.
To Whom it may concern:
As per phone conversation with Jill of the Southold Town Trustee
Office, please be advised that the meeting in regard to the
preposal for Narrow River Marina which was set for Friday, April
6, 1990 at Stony Brook has be changed accordingly:
The meeting is to be held Friday, April 6, 1990 at 1 p.m.
at the site. (Narrow River Marina) .
Sincerely,
M. �de�meyer,' 4d:ohn M. B I esident, Board of Trustees
JMB: jmt
cc: F. Dacimo
S. Mars
J. Holzapfel
P. Wenczel
S. Latson
E. Larson
R. Wacker
G.R. Latham
R. Thurber
G. Stadnick
F. Wachsberger
M. Wiggin
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TRUSTEES �=' ; ,'�r P' ' SCOTT L. HARRIS
John M. Bredeme er, III, President �'' ' Supervisor
Henry P. Smith, Vice President ®� Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Albert J. Krupski, Jr:
P.O. Box 1179
John L. Bednoski, Jr.
John B. Tuthill Southold, New York 11971
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Fax (516) 7654823
Telephone (516) 7654892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone (516) 765-1800
March. 27, 1990
Mr. Robert N. Thurber
NYSDEC Senior Environmental Analyst
SUNY Bldg 40 Room 219
Stony Brook, NY 11790
RE: Narrow River Marina
Dear Mr. Thurber:
With respect to your March 14, 1990 letter to Merlon Wiggin
of Peconic Associates, I find it necessary to offer you some
thoughts, as the major changes now suggested by the NYSDEC
belie the tremendous amount of work put into this project by the
C.O.E. , N.Y.S.D.E.C. , Town Board, Town Trustees and the Highway
Department.
The applicant has made every effort to cooperate with all
concerned and was present for at least: one pre-submission
conference with all agencies represented, two community meetings
on site, one informal and one formal public hearing, and two
meetings. devoted to environmental assessment and discussion. .
My comments will flow along the lines of your March 14 letter
with some additions at the end.
1. "Information submitted by others. . .dredging in vicinity
of boat ramp is area open to shellfishing" . . .
Although I question if this will be the case after imposition of
- the new N.S.S.P. Rules, shellfishing in this area is not what
it is cracked up to be. Orient Bayman and retired
oysterboat captain Ed "Ned" Adams who attended the public
hearing says the clamming is so poor there, and he is only
concerned with not changing the boat ramp angle. "Give me 15
feet undredged at the base of the ramp so I can walk around my
boat" (personal communication) . Others at the public hearing
made no comments: Ronnie Wacker of N.F.E.C. , Bruce Loucka
of the CAC (for John Holzapfel who was absent) , and Steve
Latson who "was not in favor or against this project" , but
requested changes which were passed on to you. He was supported
y
by G. Ritchie Latham, Jr. who had no objection with minor
changes.
Our Conservation Advisory Council, acting beyond its authority, ;
wrote you and reiterated its previous position on the project
when it was double the size early last year. It' s chairman was
not present at the public hearing nor did he extend the courtesy
of a carbon copy to the Board he is supposed to advise.
2. "Closeness of intertidal marshes. . .area should be
tapered away. . . "
The Trustees have no problem here if the access to the ramp and
marina provide for safe navigation. With the project scaled
down to 4' depth and 1 on 4 slopes, it makes erosion of
wetlands extremely unlikely.
3 . "Parking lot is at higher elevation. . ."
I thought the use of the parking lot had already been reviewed
by former Trustee President, Frank Kujawski and yourself?
Since the applicant' s water well is the only other available
area, he secured Town Board approval for the parking lot in
exchange for the free dredging to the Town Boat Ramp. The Town
Board and Trustees have a $1,000,000. 00 liability policy on this
project. In addition, the Town Superintendent of Highways
reviewed the project "specs" and prefers the haybale method, as
it is non-invasive of the parking lot surface. Any reasonable
modifications are certainly called for if they will protect the
wetlands better.
4. "Dredge area number 2 can be eliminated. . . ."
NO! Removal as indicated in your letter changes the course of
the existing channel so that navigation over the rocks will
occur. The Trustees have no objection to removal of this sand
spit, which is a navigation hazard. The inherent navigability
of this bay will not be increased by such a removal of sand,
but will be made inherently safer for all concerned.
5. "Modified plans must be submitted. . .identifying
property owners. ."
It should be noted that this proposed project is situated on
Town Trustee owned land with spoil deposition on Town Board
controlled public land, subject to approvals by Town agencies
and Highway Department review.
6. "Restrictive covenants. . .Toilets and no expansion. . ."
The applicant, at my suggestion, formalized his existing marina
no "head" rule with a restrictive covenant borrowing language
directly from the N.S.S.P. Rule. A restrictive covenant against
further expansion is not within the authority of the NYSDEC,
but lies with the Town Planning Board and Trustees. The
Trustees, at my request, have already tabled two public
moorings at the Narrow River Ramp at our March meeting. At
your suggestion, I will request a moratorium on further private
and public expansion in the Narrow River area at our April
meeting, until such time as your shellfish people have had the
opportunity to develop the local rules under the N.S.S.P. , and
we can respond with a G.E.I .S. For you to impose further on the
applicant when the project has already undergone major changes
restricting him to the immediate confines of the marina, and
after he has shown good faith before the fact, would be
unethical and possibly illegal.
On a personal note, I believe your project description as
published in the E.N.B. and approved by my Board, is not
providing conditions conducive to larger boat access, as alleged
by same, but safer-regulated access. Right now, with prudent
navigation, Hallocks Bay, as we call it, can easily provide
access to boats in the 26 foot range. To modify this proposal
by eliminating the improved safety and public convenience of
dredging to within 10' of the Town-owned boat ramp, while
permitting dredging to the marina ramps, is to confer a special
benefit to the marina operation at the expense of the public.
(This will not change the navigation situation at all) I can
speak to the safety issue personally, as my father suffered -a
crushed vertebra in 1977 while launching my 16' aluminum boat,
and it became jammed in the sand at the base of the ramp. This
is hardly a "large" boat and the permit we voted will make this
ramp no safer or easier to use. While it would have been easy
for me to endorse a new ramp angle, I have accepted the
sentiments of those who wish to walk around their boats at low
tide, such as Ned Adams and those who feel a new ramp angle
will permit "larger" boats.
Given the cooperation and willingness of the applicant to accept
state of the art environmental control, your agency should not
punish him for ex-post-facto dissension caused by: Those who
were too lazy to participate in the local public process on
time, those who fear improved quality access will mean more
shellfish available to residents as opposed to commercial
baymen, and those who oppose this project for their own
secular needs.
I have enclosed 3 copies of this letter, our permit, and hearing
minutes for your information. Please distribute these among
your colleagues.
Sincerely,
hn M. r e r B edem ye i�
President, Board of Trustees
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Peconic Associates , Inc .
P 0 Box 672 One Bootleg Alley Re:NYSDEC # 1.0-89-0209
Greenport , N Y 11944 Narrow River Marina
Dredging
Dear Mr Wiggins :
The. NYSDEC has further reviewed this application and has the
following comments :
1 Information submitted by others has been verified by NYSDEC
that dredging as proposed in the vicinity of the boat ramp is in an
area open to shellfishing . There are many written objections from the
public to dredging in this area.
2 In view of the closeness to the intertidal marshes the area
to be 'dredged should be tapered away from the shore on the nort*
and south sides at the seaward end of the marina . Please see the
enclosure for suggested modifications to the dredging by the boat
ramp and marina,
3 The parking lot is at a higher elevation than the marshes
to north and south and placement of the spoil on the parking lot,
could adversely affect these wetlands without more stringent
controls {berms} than hay bales . The spoil site should be on the
marina ' s upland property where potential siltation into wetlands
would be less .
4 The proposed "dredge area no. 2" ( to the south ) can be
eliminated by shifting the channel (markers) .10 ' to 15 ' to the
west -where there are existing 8 ' depths .
5 Modified plans { four copies } must be submitted showing
the property lines and identifying the landowners of adjoining
lands { upland, wetlands, and underwater lands ) . These plans
should incorporate other changes suggested above.
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restrictive covenant in the deed(s) for the lot{s,) of this
marina that there will be no expansion of the existing marina , y-
and that vessels to be moored at this facility will not have
any ";marine sanitary devices" {toilets} on board.
Since there have been many letters from the public objecting 5.
mostly to the extent of dredging a meeting has been scheduled '. ; .I..
on Friday, March 23 , 1990 at 3 : 00 pm' in room 223 at DEC ' s Stony'
Brook' Office by George Stadnick . ,The applicant and' representa.ti:ves
of the'' agencies and local groups are 'asked to attend. '
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The NYSDEC will determine whether a hearing will be needed ;
according' to the nature of the submittals from the applicant and
others resulting from suggestions and comments made at that
meeting . These submittals should be received at DEC by April
9 , 1990 .
If agreement is reached at the meeting and no further
objections are received by that date DEC would likely issue
a permit with special conditions without a hearing provided
acceptably revised plans are submitted in accordance with
the agreement .
Very truly yours ,
Robert N. Thurber
Senior Environmental Analyst
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US Army corps
of Engineem In replying refer to:
New York District
Jacob K. Javits Federal Building Public Notice No. 1398[}_89_0828_L2
New York, N.Y. 16278— 0090 Published: 9 MAR 90 Expires:9 APR 90
ATTN: Regulatory Branch
To Whom It May Concern:
The New York District, Corps of Engineers has received an application
for a Department of the Army permit pursuant to Section 10 of the
Rivers . and Harbors Act of 1899 (33 U .S .C . 403).
APPLICANT: Narrow River Marina
Narrow River Road
Orient, New York 11751
ACTIVITY: Dredge with ten years maintenance with upland disposal
WATERWAY: Hallocks Bay, Gardiners Bay
LOCATION: Orient, Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York
A detailed description and plans of the applicant's activity are
enclosed to assist in your review.
The decision whether to issue a permit will be based on an evaluation
of the probable impact , including cumulative impacts , of the activity
on the public interest . That decision will reflect the national
concern for both protection and utilization of important resources.
The benefits which reasonably may be expected to accrue from the
activity must be balanced against its reasonably foreseeable
detriments . All factors which may be relevant to the activity will be
considered including the cumulative effects thereof ; among those are
conservation, economics , aesthetics , general environmental concerns ,
wetlands , cultural values , land use, navigation, shoreline erosion and
accretion, recreation, water supply and conservation, water quality,
energy needs , safety, food production and, in general , the needs and
welfare of the people.
The Corps of Engineers is soliciting comments from the public ; Federal,
state, and local agencies and officials ; Indian Tribes ; and other
interested parties in order to consider and evaluate the impacts of
this proposed activity . Any comments received will be considered by
the Corps of Engineers to determine whether to issue , modify, condition
or deny a permit for this proposal . To make this decision, comments
are used to assess impacts on endangered species , historic properties ,
water quality, general environmental effects , and the other public
interest factors listed above. Comments are used in the preparation of
an Environmental Assessment and/or an Environmental Impact Statement
pursuant to the National Environmental Policy Act . Comments are also
used to determine the need for a public hearing and to determine the
6vefai i public interest of the prbp'b.§0d activity.
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ALL COMMENTS RhbAkbikO THE PERMIT APPLICATION! 'Ah' N MUST BE PR I
WRITING AND MAILEDTO REACH OFFICE BEFORE THE EXPIRAT, ION bAtt OF
.It�e )1 n( �o
FHf_ISNQTIQt btfierwi06,. it will be presumed that. tfib�6 a
objections bj6Cfti6fi8' to the activity.
Any p'1bksdh may k64i!6st, in writing; b6ibi6 this pub'did n
btit6 that a public hearing i6ldE6 collect, iriforfiation
'necessary to
consider this application . k64uests for ,public hearings shall 1 i state;
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hearing if!�! : 86 ; :1 i
�tith a ticu y he reasons why a public nearing sh uld be ,held.
, pit, t
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noted t informationil . is bilsid6ribd
It sho ld e ni , submitted c n
jiigt as dat6fiili ifi th ' permit , d6cis" 11oh pirio'cbs) s' and bears the same
weight 4 - furnished
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i ht as that furnished at a public hearing.
iirlsiuda`riti to Seiidtii6nei 7 of the I ifiddiigered Species Act (i66 . 0 . S .C. 153,1)
and
based upon' a review of the lat6git published version of t e
threatened and endangered species listing; a preiimifiaty determinationukt
is that th6 activity under consideration will not affect those species
listed or their critic-di hab' J.Ldti .
Bas6d upon a 'review of the latest published version of the kait4iloifiai
kb4ist6r of historic Places , there` are no known 'Sites eligible ior, or
included,. , i
in, the Register within the permit area . Presently unknown
atdfia6blogiddl , scientific ; prehistorical Or historical data may be
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lost by work accomplished nder t; hb required 'permit.
1ke;,vi, e,;7s of activities pursuant to Section 404 of the Clean Water Act
will include application of the guidelines promulgated by, the
U. S. Environmental Protection Agency, under authority of
Section 4 0; 4' b J of the Clean Water Act and the applicant will Obtain a
water quality certificate or r waiver vet from the appropriate state agency
in accordance with Section 401 of the Clean WAte.r Act prior to a permit
decision.
Purgddrit to Section 307(c) of the Coastal Zo,ne Mahastem' '6h't". Act of 19 1 72
as amended [16: U.S.C. 1456 (c� ] ; for consideration - I
m' 6ndec activities under donsid6rati n that
are located within the coastal zone of a state which has a federally
approved coastal zone management program; the ap: piicant has d6ktifibd
;in the permit application that the activity complies .with, and will; be
conducted in a mann-er that is consistent with; the approved state
coastal zone management program By this public notice, we are
requesting the state"s concurrence I with,, objection to, or waiver ve I r of the
applicant's certification . No permit decision will be made until one
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of the a within the coastal zone of New
ions occur . For activities
York; State,: the applicdnt's certification and accompanying information
is available from the New York State Department of State.- Division of,
Coastalu'
. Resources and Waterfr6h.t Revitalization, Coastal Zone
One
Management m-ent 'Pro.grain, 162 Washington, Avenue,, Albany, New York ( 1,223 1
Telephone lephohe (518) 474-3642 Comments regarding the applicant 's
certification should be so addressed.
In addition to any required water quality certificate and coastal zone
management program concurrence, the applicant has obtAiridd or requested
the following governmental authorization for the activity under
consideration:
N.Y. State Dept. of Environmental Conservation Tidal Wetlands Permit
Town of Islip Permit
It is requested that you communicate the foregoing information
concerning the activity to any persons known by you to be interested
and who did not receive a copy of this notice.
If you have any questions concerning this application, you may contact
this office at (212) 264-3912 and ask for Mr. Michael Infurna.
FOR THE DISTRICT ENGINEER: � 'L1'VVV
1J; seph J. Seebod e ]
;ief, Regulatory Branch
Enclosures
1. Work Description
2. Project Drawings
CDNAN-OP-RE
APPLICATION NO. 89-0828-L2
PUBLIC NOTICE NO. 13§84
DESCRIPTION OF WORK
The applicant, Narrow River Marina, has requested Department of
the Army authorization to dredge with ten years maintenance with upland
disposal in Hallocks Bay, Gardiners Bay at Orient ; Town of Southold,
Suffolk County, New York for the stated purpose of providing ingress
and 'egress of small boats to Narrow River Marina.
The work would involve the maintenance dredging of .two irregularly
shaped areas to 4 feet below mean low water removing approximately
2i100 cubic yards of material. All dredged material would be placed on
the Town Landing Area where it would be surrounded by staked hay bales
situated 50-100 feet from the waterway to prevent it from reentering
the bay. The applicant anticipates dredging twice during the ten year
maintenance period removing approximately 250 cubic yards per event .
All dredged material from subsequent dredging activities would be
placed at an upland location where it would be suitably retained from
reentering the waterway.
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TRUSTEES k SCOTT L. HARRIS
John M. Bredeme er III President "� Su ervisor
Henry P. Smith, Vice President w. 3c 1
� z m - Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
P.O. Box 1179
John L. Bednoski, Jr.
John B. Tuthill Southold, New York 11971
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone (516) 765-1800
March 13, 19.90
Ms. Freddie Wachsberger, President
Orient Association
Box 347
Orient, NY 11957
Dear Ms. Wachsberger: ,.
With respect to your letter of March 10, 1990, you should know
that a Trustee permit was issued after two ( 2) thorough
environmental assessments and a second public hearing on
February 22, 1990, at which time no one spoke against the
application.
Since all the items you mention your letter have been thoroughly
reviewed by the Board for nearly a year, I suggest you continue
your discussions with the NYSDEC directly. Several additional
concerns were transmitted to the NYSDEC Office by me in response
to Mr. Latson' s request at the February 22 meeting.
Although the Trustees have completed the S.E.Q.R.A. process, any
new or relevant information presented to the NYSDEC will receive
their full attention, and could lead to their agency now
assuming a "lead agency" status under S.E.Q.R.A.
I might add that those in the "community" who took the
opportunity to participate in numerous meetings on site
- (including two ( 2) following the first public hearing) , were
very satisfied as to the scope of review and concern taken by
the applicant and Trustees. As a result, this marina is the
first in Southold to file a perpetual restrictive covenant
against marine toilets, which may adversely affect shellfishing.
The applicants have indicated willingness to further restrict
the behavior of their customers in order to protect shellfishing
as the need arises.
Thank you , again, for your concerns.
Sincerely, np""
ohn M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
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cc: George Stadnick
Robert Thurber
Harold Berger
Town Board '
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Orient Association
Box 347 . Orient, New York
March 10, 1990
John Bredemeyer, President
Southold Town Trustees
Town Hall
Southold, New York
Re: Narrow River Marina Dredging Proposal
Dear Mr . Bredemeyer and Town Trustees,
We urge you to reconsider your issuance of a negative declaration
under SEQRA for the Narrow River Marina dredging proposal . Given
the sensitivity of the area and the vulnerability of shellfish in
the bay; the designation as a Type 1 Critical Environmental Area,
and the degree of local concern and opposition, we believe that a
positive declaration and a full DEIS are essential to approval of
this project.
The community would support some limited dredging and acknowl-
edges the applicants ' willingness to reduce their original
proposal . However, we believe that alternatives such as that pro-
posed by the Baymen have been inadequately explored . We would
particularly like to see the following concerns addressed:
1 . A determination as to the effect of dredging on a wider
area than that of the actual channel : ie. , will silt from bucket
dredging settle over and smother shellfish beds, and over how
large an area?
2 . An analysis of the material to be dredged, for trace metal
content, particularly arsenic and lead, which might result from
silting due to farm washoff and road runoff . This would have a
significant impact in two ways : the toxins would be widely dis-
tributed in the water during dredging, and would remain in the
drained spoil which would go to the landfill, creating a possible
contaminant of the water supply. We believe this danger should be
ruled out by a complete analysis before dredging is approved .
3 . The concern of many baymen that dredging in front of the
town slip will prevent them from access on foot to the water at
that point. &t w-L U -1^6-N -j `jlfi`_ "7q
4 . There should be a determination of the minimum- depth
necessary for access of the type of boats presently docked at -
the Marina; no dredging should be approved beyond the minimum
amount necessary for the adequate functioning of the Marina .
This location is too sensitive to tamper with without a complete
analysis of the implications and alternatives .
Sincerely,
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Freddie Wachsberger
President, Orient Association
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Orient Association
Box 347
Orient, New York 11957
516-323-3501
March 9, 1990
Mr . Robert Thurber
NYSDEC Marine Resources
Room 219, SUNY Building 40
Stony Brook, N.Y. 11794
Re:NYSDEC 10-89-0209, Narrow River Marina dredging application
Dear Mr . Thurber,
The 'Orient Association urges the DEC to deny this tidal wetlands
application until a positive declaration under SEQRA is issued by
the Town Trustees and a full DEIS is completed . We will urge the
Trustees to reverse their decision and issue a positive declara-
tion because of the potential impact on the environment of this
proposal,which lies in a designated Type 1 Critical Environmental
Area; is flanked on both sides by wetlands purchased by the DEC
under the Tidal Wetlands Bond Act; and has occasioned a great
deal of local concern over the vulnerability of the shellfish
beds, which are making a slow and precious comeback in this area .
We believe that a DEIS should address the following concerns :
1 . The channel proposed by the Baymen should be given serious
consideration as an alternative to that indicated in the applica-
tion, and a minimum feasable depth should be determined .
2 . The extent of the area of possible burial of shellfish
bottom due to the method of dredging and the distribution of silt
should be analysed .
3 . The bottom material to be dredged should be analysed for
trace metal content, particularly arsenic and lead . The silt is
to a large extent the result of farm washoff and road runoff, and
may contain significant amounts of toxins' resulting from the
long-term use of toxic insecticides on local farms . Dredging to a
depth of four feet will cause a general distribution of these
toxins, if they are present. The proposed plan includes the
placement of spoil on the town landing until it drains, and then
the removal of it to the landfill; again, trace metals could, if
deposited in the landfill, pose a serious hazard to our ground
water .
The community is not against limited dredging around the slips,
and the proprietors of the Marina are to be commended for reduc-
ing their original proposal . However, enough serious questions
remain to warrant much closer scrutiny of the implications of the
proposal in its present form.
Additionally,' the question of dumping the spoil on the town slip
must be addressed. The aesthetic impact, both visual and olfac-
tory, will be strongly negative. And the proposed dredging in
front of the town' ramp,- presumably to allow access for the dump-
ing, is causing a good deal of concern to local baymen who are
accustomed to being able to stand in the water at that point.
Sincerely,
Freddie Wachsberger
President, Orient Association
cc. Harold Berger
George Stadnick
Richard Ryan
Southold Town Trustees
Southold Town Board
Steve Latson
Ronnie Wacker
SCOTT L. HARRIS
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John M. Bredemeyer, III, President a�
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John L. Bednoski, Jr.
John B. Tuthill Southold, New York 11971
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone (516) 765-1800
March 8, 1990
Peter Wenczel, President
Southold Town Baymen' s Ass'n.
West Shore Drive
Southold, NY 11971
RE: Narrow River a
Dear Mr. Wenczel:
Please be advised that a meeting is scheduled with George
Stadnick, Marine Resource Specialist of NYSDEC on Friday,
March 23 , 1990 at 3 : 00 P.M. to discuss additional mitigation
regarding Narrow River Marina.
This meeting will be held at SUNY Building 40, Room 223 in
Stony Brook, NY, unless cancelled by the Baymen, or all
opposition is withdrawn.
Kindly let this office know whether you or Steve Latson will
be interested in attending, should this meeting take place.
Sincerely,
?Ij�oh�n . Bredemeyer, III
ent, Board of Tru ees
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Mr. Stephen Latson
P. 0. Box 15
Southold , L. I .
New York - 11971
Re : Narrow River Marina
Orient , New York
Dear Mr . Latson :
In a telephone review with Bob Thurber of New York State
Department of Environmental Conservation on your
suggestions , he requested that you contact Mr. George
Stadnick of that agency directly .
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Merlon E. Wiggin ,Ph�. , M. E.
President
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Mr. Robert Thurber
Mr. Fred Dacimo
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John M. Bredeme er, III, President Supervisor
Henry P. Smith, Vice President
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
John L. Bednoski, Jr. `�r P.O. Box 1179
John B. Tuthill BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Sou 971
Fax (5 6) 765-823
Telephone (516) 765-1892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone (516) 765-1800
March 1, 1990
George Stadnick
Marine Resource Specialist
D.E.C. , Marine Habitat Protection
SUNY,Bldg. 40, Room 219
Stony Brook, NY 11794
RE: Narrow River Marina
Dear Mr. Stadnick:
Recently youragency may have received a copy of the Southold
Town Trustees wetlands permit resolution issued for the Narrow
River Marina in Orient.
As the Town Trustees permit requested that additional mitigation
be agreed upon by the N.Y.S.D.E.C. , I would like to take this
opportunity to offer to meet with you and Mr. Latson of the
Baymens Association to discuss this matter.
Sincerely,
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1ohn M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Trustees
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Chris Coustopoulis, Deputy Regional Permit Administration
Steve Latson, Secretary Baymens Association
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JIM FITZGERALD: Jim Fitzgerald of Proper-T if there are any
questions.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Anyone else who wishes to speak in respect to
this application. O.K. Being no further comment I will close the
hearing in the matter of Sy Stahl.
It is now 7:34. In the matter of the application of Wayne
Monson, 600 Smith Drive South, Southold, to construct a private
single dock, ramp and platform adjacent to existing bulkhead.
CAC approved with stipulation, construction does not impede any
future dock/floats for the neighbors directly across the creek
or impede navigation which would be an item the Trustees will
automatically view. Is there anyone who wishes to speak on
behalf of the application? Anyone here who wishes to speak
against the application? Trustee members?
Board: No.
Being no further comment, we close the hearing on the
application of Wayne Monson.
Next hearing is in the matter of Peconic Associates, Inc. on
behalf of- Fred Dacimo/Narrow River Marina, Narrow River Road,
Orient to dredge existing channel to 4' in depth (Approximately
.2100 c.y. ) at points indicated and dredging marina entrance
silted in from storm and highway runoff. Is there anyone who
wishes to speak in behalf of this application.
MERLON WIGGIN: Merlon Wiggin. Peconic Associates. This project
is primarily maintenance. The material is silted in from
I� agricultural runoff from the various years. The project by
design does not include the enlargement of the marina. Primarily
to restore and maintain and utilize what already has been there.
When we got the culture zone management consistency review of
this, particular reference was made to policy 19. For the record
I would like to read part of that. Protect, maintain, and
increase the level and types of access to public water-related
recreation resources and facilities so that these resources and
facilities may be fully utilized by all the public in accordance
with reasonably anticipated public recreation needs and the
protection .of historic and natural resources. In providing such
access, priority shall. be given to public beaches, boating
facilities and so forth.
Also this project has the benefit of on site review. A
representative of all regulatory agencies with the Corp. of
Engineers, the DEC, Trustees and also a representative of the
Town Board. In addition there has been a lot ofattempt made to
get input from the local residence, the people that- use the
area. They have actively participated in the.-project planning
and made suggestions that we think have been good ones. We have
incorporated those in the project. Another concern that has made
itself evident in the last year is the hazards to the owners and
the users of some of the small boats. A small sail boat, for
example, at low tide can become a ground and because the silted
nature of the water it is not safe for a youngster or children
to wade a shore because they can' t move their feet silt. The
project has taken all these things into consideration. We think
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we have got all the plans and inputs from everybody. If we can
answer any questions we will be happy to do so. Thank you.
r HENRY SMITH: The last time 'we spoke of this, it was my
understanding that the owner of the marina and I think you Mr.
Wiggin were going to get- together with the people in the area. I
think it was Mr. Latham, Mr. Horton and few others and try to
work out some sort of a compromise that everybody was happy. Was
that ever done?
MERLON WIGGIN: Yes, we have done that. On three separate ,
meetings and Stew Horton was one of the ones that was the
leadership and active participation representing all the people.
He is here tonight.
HENRY SMITH: Thank you.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: As a result of that meeting I think it was
important to note that there were some changes made to the plan
from the last meeting. For those of you who where here last
month to this month and that was of the suggestion of the group
that there be limits to the dredging and it not go right up to
the Town ramp so. that small boat operators can launch without
having a problem. As proposed it would not go any closer. The
slope would not begin until ten feet out. You would not have
fool depth until, probably it was a 4-1 slope, thirty feet depth
off the ramp. If someone is launching a boat in the range of
twelve to fifteen feet or twenty foot light aluminum boat that
has to get in the water and be on the ramp surf ace, .will not
have to worry about running into troubles at the end of the
ramp. Additionally there were soundings taken with the Bay !
Constable and the Surveyor at that time to verify the depths.
The depths were converted from MGVD into actual depths. They
tend to run as pretty much as the application stated in a range
-of approximately two to three feet. Being somewhat less .then
what is needed to bring an outboard in.
MERLON WIGGIN: There was some confusion between the depths of
what we are used to being in the water. . .INAUDIBLE.
JOHN TUTHILL: Your last check shows three feet. Below water?
MERLON WIGGIN: Yes, mean low of the depths were 2.3, 2. 4. When
you convert that to MGVD you add about 1.3 _feet.
JOHN TUTHILL: I understand you have reduced the length of this
dredging some.
MERLON WIGGIN: We have reduced it a long time ago. Unfortunately
the set of drawings that you had at the first meeting was the
ones that were back from last August. We have cut it down over
half since that time and reduced the area.
JOHN TUTHILL: How far out is it, that we are dredging now?
MERLON WIGGIN: I goes out to the south approximately 2801 , I
think it is. r. e
JOHN TUTHILL: Otherwise all the dredging is right around the
marina itself. I have heard a lot of comments. I don' t know if
it is quit as much on the dredging. It looks with in reason,
alright we have to work with everybody. I think where you are
placing the spoil is got more comment from the average person.
Maybe we ought to set these in two different places. We will
probably here something about where you are putting the spoil
and what it might do to people trying to launch boats.
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MERLON WIGGIN: We have changed the spoils several times from the
input from the DEC, primarily, the Trustees and also the owners.
We are in the. position that we can still modify it again, if
need be. We would like the input and suggestions from.the Board'.
JOHN TUTHILL: Can you tell us what you are planning now?
MERLON WIGGIN: Right now the DEC has required to come back fifty
feet from the edge of .the parking lot from spring hide tide. We
moved the spoil site back to the west. So it stops pretty much
to the edge of Narrow River. It is twenty feet wide and has a
trapezoid shape to it. We left room on .the south and west side
for access to vehicles:
JOHN TUTHILL: We went down and looked at .it we thought, I don't
know what your measurements are, but there is a sign there.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: There is a sign that indicates no dumping.
JOHN TUTHILL: Yes, no dumping and if you draw a line over to the
number 12 post, we thought that would be the maximum that would ,
be used. I understand that you have plans in there that if it
did bother the people you got other things there. You might want
to talk about them.
MERLON WIGGIN: The owner will talk about some of those things
and it would make it easier. If there are any questions we will
try and answer them all.
FRED DACIMO: I am glad you raised that as an issue. The only
other thing I really have to add above and beyond what Jay and
Merl said. When I looked at the way the area was staked out I
felt that it effected the ability of the guys who use that ramp
to turn. That is not what I really want to do. As a result of
having to move it in fifty feet,. I guess that is still under
some discussion. My feelings are that we have two perfectly good
ramps at Narrow River Marina. One is paved and the other one is
crushed stone. As far as I am concerned for the amount of time
that spoils are at that site anyone who can legitimately use the
Town ramp would be welcome to use the ramps at my marina,
obviously no charge. They can use the parking lot to park cars
and trailers. I don't have a problem with that. As a matter of
fact I feel an obligation to provide those facilities for the
people who want to use the ramp. Other then that, that is about
it.
JOHN TUTHILL: How long to expect the spoil to be there?
FRED DACIMO: We are required not to exceed sixty days. Obviously
would not exceed the sixty days. We would probably be done less
time then that. What I am telling this Board is that as long as
the spoil dredge is there, the guys who use the"'ramp will have
the opportunity to use the ramp on my property. '
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Is there anyone who wishes to speak in behalf
of this matter? w `
STEWART HORTON: Stewart Horton, Main Road, Orient. Since we met
last time to consider this project, I became a member of the
. . .Citizens and Hallock Committee to look into the overall
situation, which I have done to some degree. I am not going to
touch on the economics or the spoil areas or the general civil
disputation that might come out of this. I am approaching
C primarily, even though I am in favor of this project as it is
turned out in my own mind, for the health of Hallocks Bay.
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That is my primary concern. The bay has suffered some gross
indignities over the last twenty years and I have touched on
those before. Basically because of a very poor agricultural and
perhaps land use practices. This area where the marina is, at
the out fall of Narrow River. Narrow River takes the uplands
through four condiments. Five if you include fluid at the upper
end of Narrow River coming out of Fraud Meadow. Fraud meadow
doesn' t really contribute that much because it is a fairly
good - siphoning system. The last 50 probably 60 years, as long
as I can remember from a child on, you 'have had after heavy rain
storms, a very muddy and disturbed conditions in Narrow River
going out into the harbor itself. Of course in those days, the
farmers for one reason or another were not using lands. .
Everything that was on those lands of course went out in the
bay. Primarily in the form of water and silt. As far north as
the woods on the Sound. Crossing the main highway at Brown' s
Hill Road and down by the State Sump, where Bob Scott. We lost
Hallok' s Bay Steamers, Grass Shrimp, a couple of crabs for about
twenty years. From the middle sixties to probably about three or
four years ago. They have come back. The question is, is this
project going to be beneficial or is it going to be detrimental
to the ongoing situation within Hallok' s Bay. Thank God we are
not using the chemicals, pesticide and fertilizers we did back
in the early sixties. I see Hallok' s Bay is beginning to clear
itself. On this committee I did some measuring with Mr. Doug
Flemming, also of Orient. We went out when the tide was in about
three quarters of an hour and we found in the area around the
marina and out to the flag pole (outer marker there) an average
depth of two feet for silt. At the pole it was two feet nine
inches. Subsequently, it was done on the same day that the
surveyor and the Town Constable were there. Subsequently to that
I did some more mucking around up in Narrow River and off the
landing to see how hard the bottom was and how far out you can.
You don' t go out to far before you hit that silt. Fifty feet in
places. Twenty feet in other places as you go up Narrow River.
You have a good two feet and probably more Orient top soil that
has accumulated in silt form. Believe me, in my mind, as much
dredging you can do to get rid of that. And believe me I am no
proponent of dredging. I have always been against dredging in
creeks or in bays, but dredging is a tool. In this case I think
the bay itself is going to stand in good favor by taking out as
much as that sediment as possible. I am just sorry you are not
going all the way up to the end of Narrow River.-- I have as a .
member of the Gun Club and an officer of the Gun Club and vice
president of the Gun club been in contact with members of the
club and found no objection to any dredging based on this
condition. That is restricted to the area in discussion and that
now future dredging is going to take place between Brown' s Point
and Pete' s Neck. At that point we all come down heavy with a
hammer. That is my comments on the situation.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to
speak in behalf of this application?
ED WHITE: I am Ed White from Orient. I am president of the the
Gun Club. I just want to reiterate what Stew Horton jus said. We
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are in favor of this small dredging project. I think it is going
to .be good for the whole area. I am sorry to see, as Stew said,
that it doesn' t go up into Narrow River more. I don't want to
see it go out past that one point the, hazardous marker. I think
he was very cooperative in stopping at thiat point. He is
stopping at the point that he should stop, going out into the
bay. I can see know harm. I have talked with alot of fellows. We
are all for it. I am sure there will be someone against it, like
always. I can not see any harm in it. I speak for myself and I
also speak for the Gun Club.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Anyone else wishing to speak on behalf of this
application?
STEVE LATSON: Steve Latson. Could we see a map? Can I show this
to people?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Sure.
STEVE LATSON: I am not for or against this project. I think that
is kind of an erroneous format. What we recommended the two
times that at the meeting last month, meaning the Baymen' s
Association and the North Fork Environmental Council, and at a
meeting last June was not this. But rather have the edge of. . .I
have clammed three times in this area. Until you get out to
about where this dot is, you can' t catch clam. It is a hard
bottom. It gets a little soft. It gets hard again. You get
trenches where dug out 2 or 31 . Then you hit good hard bottom
again. What we have. proposed is that the channel be over here,
in this area. We are not opposed to these people dredging. We.
are opposed to this specific area. I don' t know why they insist
on dredging there. Since twice we asked them to dredge here
instead. Here meaning to the south. In fact the line you have
here really should be the .northern .edge of the channel. This is
really the common sense place. I am glad the rod and gun club
thinks this is o.k. We are not opposed to them dredging here.
This is pretty dam good bottom. I am sure the rod and gun club
hasn' t done to much clamming. This is good bottom. Why not
dredge in here where the bottom isn' t good.
JOHN TUTHILL: You are saying to move these to dots closer to the
point?
STEVEN .LATSON: I am saying move it so the edge of the- channel,
this is the northern edge of the channel not the southern edge
of the channel.
JOHN TUTHILL: How about further into that channel. Where the
other dot is?
- STEVEN LATSON: I might cut off the last forty or` fifty feet,
because I know for a fact when you come in here 'you don' t hit
bottom until right about where that dot -is. Basically I would
draw a line right abut here. This channel should be here not
there. This is all good bottom.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: In other words you are saying that the approach
should be to the southerly. . .
STEVEN LATSON: I am saying that this should be one side of the
channel and this should be the other side of the channel. Out to
about here.
( JOHN BREDEMEYER: I see what you are saying.
STEVEN LATSON: I don't see what the difference is.
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I am saying this looks like it is going out a little to far.
JOHN TUTHILL: You are saying put out to here. . .
STEVEN LATSON: Not put it here. I clammed three times this
summer right out to there and then I wentiall the way across. '
JOHN TUTHILL: How about from here to there. Like this.
RITCHIE LATHAM: Why do you keep over to this?
STEVEN LATSON: This isn' t a maintenances project. This is a new
dredging project.
ALL TALKING AT ONCE.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Let' s get back into some settlement of a usual
course here. The• tape. is running and no one is. going to figure
out what is going on. Steve are you finished?
STEVEN LATSON: In conclusion, the line I showed at the southern
edge of the channel should be the northern edge of the channel.
The channel should obviously go to the south of that edge. In
other words the element is incorrect. I think it goes out forty
or fifty feet out beyond where it needs to go.
HENRY SMITH: I think we got two voices opinion. Stew Horton just
said they want to get more of that silt.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K. Anybody for or against?
PETER WENCZEL: Peter Wenczel, President of the Baymen' s
Association. I just want to reiterate Steve' s comments. We feel
that the dredging should be moved away from the hard bottom by
the ramp. There shouldn' t be any dredging up to the ramp. That
area should be left . alone. The channel should be out by soft
bottom.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K.
PETER WENCZEL: I personally have never clammed there, but other
baymen have. They have personally reassured me that right off
the ramp is good bottom. It would be a crime to disturb it.
Thank you.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Anyone else?
RITCHIE LATHAM: Ritchie Latham. I .agree with what has been said
about moving it. I think it 'is a good idea. Keep away from the
ramp. All the baymen I know of clam around the ramp. They want
it left alone. I talked with Mr. Dacimo. I had a nice talk with
him. I am not against the thing. I don't want to stop him from
cleaning up his place there so he can serve the people better.
One of the baymen said that if the area is closed to
shellf ishing and you take all this spoil and put it on the
parking lot and it runs right back into the water. Something
doesn' t sound right there.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Now one has suggested that the"spoil is poison
per say. r
RITCHIE LATHAM: You are not allow to shellfish there.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The shellfish ban inside the"marina is based on
a public health protection measure which comes directly out of
some new rules the DEC is imposing. It is not a result of in
water quality that they are actually monitoring. Inside the
marina, it is a blanket prohibition. All the marinas now have
it. Probably the swans are the biggest problem down there now
for water quality. There leavings whether it is on the bottom or
on the spoils or whatever, is the most detrimental thing going.
This closure that they have there is not a result of "poison or
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high .coliform count presently. The DEC has not given any
indication that they even give it serious concern at this point.
RITCHIE LATHAM: It was a point that was brought up to me.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: It is a valid point. Particularly when people
look at marinas and see it is closed to shellfishing in the
marina. Logical question ,is why is closed. It is purely a
protective mechanism. This marina has a prohibition against
heads. There are other marinas that might have heads. Heads have
a possibility of discharge.
RITCHIE LATHAM: The other thing is if Mr. Dacimo is willing to
have people park on his property why not ,put the spoil there?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: That matter is one that'has come up before to
the Trustees. The original permissions were given from the Town
Board for the use of the ramp. : There is certainly a public
benefit here because the Town has little money for dredging
projects. As far as public policy is concerned the Trustees have
embraced a policy of not allowing the dredging of the entrance
to Hallocks Bay. Over time-it would be nice to think that we can
get baymen and recreational boaters with there small boats in
and out with some convenience. I think this is the public
benefit side of it. I can' t speak for the Town Board members,
but I know how I feel as a Trustee. The public benefit side of
it may have had something to do with permitting the spoil on the
ramp. It does permit an improvement that the whole Town can
enjoy.
RITCHIE LATHAM. O.K. If you move it down,I have now objections.
HENRY SMITH: Getting back to the spoil site Mr. Latham is when
Narrow River first approached us about this project, we wouldn't
even entertain there application until they came to use with an
approved spoil site. That :was the approved spoil site. They
worked it out with the Town Board, the Highway Department, the..
DEC and everyone else. After they got that spoil site approved
then we entertained there dredging permit. If we were to know
change the spoil site, say on his property across the street,
they would basically be back to square one again. I think this
is something they had to do before we would entertain this part
of the permit.
RITCHIE LATHAM: O.K.
HENRY SMITH: There is no sense in them coming to ask us to
dredge if they have no place to put this stuff. There was no way
we were going to give them a permit unless they did have an
approve spoil site.
- RITCHIE LATHAM: Are you going to vote on this permit tonight.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: We have to have comments from-all concerned
here. There maybe individuals wishing to speak for the issue.
RITCHIE LATHAM: Are you taking written comments for a while .or
not?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I had hoped since there has been so much
community participation, I would hope to lead the Board into a
vote tonight. Possible try to include as much as the comments
that we have heard. I think the baymens concerns are well
warranted. I know there has been some original problems of
communication. I don' t see why we can not come -to a conclusion
here. Unless there is some unforeseen item that has yet to come
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before the Board that another member of the public would bring
to our attention. Anyone else wish to speak? C�
MERLON WIGGIN: Perhaps i can answer some of the questions as far
as the location of the dredging. Before we started this
application we had conference on the site with a representative
of the Trustees, DEC, and the Corp. of Engineer' s. At that time
the suggestion was made to try and include dredging out close to
the public ramp providing a public service as well as taking
care of the problem inside the marina itself. Also the DEC has
been very invadic, they want to keep that channel out further
from the west point land. Also, I know there has been questions
about where the hard bottom is, where the soft bottom is and how
far it should go. We have had several surveys. We have had the
surveyors up there on several occasions. We went back to the bay
constable and a representative of the Orient people just to
verify that we did have the depths right. That we did have where
the silting started. Sometimes because it is so soupy and soft
when the surveyor takes his readings he has difficulty finding
exactly where the bottom is. I know Mr. Horton was present when
the bay constable went out there and helped verify depths.
STEWART HORTON: I think I touched on that with my comments
earlier. What we did was we made a device with a good flat base
on a stick with three inch . . . The bay constable and the
surveyor and Mr. Seamore had something along the same lines. It
was a push down apparatuses slanted to the silt. you couldn' t go
much further. Then we clocked the depths at that time. The tide
had been coming in about three quarters of an hour at this
point. The depths again throughout were just about two feet from
the surface of the water to the silt. Until we got out to flag
and there we counted 21711, 219" and 2 ' 10" . Once you get off
twenty yards you are in the silt: You are in the silt to the
east of that area. It is just a matter of mechanics that over
the years that is self accumulated. It is not made of Hallocks
Bay bottom. Unfortunately that is a lot of upland that is gone.
JOHN TUTHILL: Stewart, is it silt right up to this point here?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I kind of suspect that there is. I have eeled
there at night.
STEWART HORTON: There is silt right across in there. You don' t
want to try and wade around in there.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Is the DEC pushing the channel away because of
their owning that property and their fears- of encroachment?
ALL TALKING AT ONCE.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K. We are getting off track again. Anyone
else?
RITCHIE LATHAM: Is this going to be monitored?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Yes, through inspections by, the bay constable.
Law enforcement.
.MIKE MOONEY: Mike Mooney. North Fork Water Front Contractors. As
a Contractor I am interested in this job. I think moving the
channel you are going to run into one major problem with the
boaters that are going to try to use this facility. Right now to
get in and out of the basin you are going to make such a hard
turn. You are really restricting the amount of dredging. Making
the channel very narrow. It would be very awkward for anybody to
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come into the south of that channel. Make a ninety degree turn
and then make a hundred . and eighty degree turn to get back into
that basin. The way it is set up right now, you are setting it
up, it is the easiest for the flow of navigation. If you are
going to make it easy and benefit the people, you have to make
it the easiest way to do it. Not make a snake channel to come in
and out. That doesn' t make any sense if you are trying to help
the public.
JOHN TUTHILL: That is why Steve' s plan is not practical.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Fred, could you and Merl come up here for a
minute. Steve' s plan did not look so unreasonable. I just want
to run it past you before we conclude the hearing. I think what
Steve was hoping that you could put this portion over here. He
was .allowing for a cut for navigation on this side.
FRED DACIMO: We couldn' t come this way as a result of being
close to this point.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Because the DEC says no.
FRED DACIMO: They made that clear.
HENRY SMITH: They made that clear.
FRED DACIMO: I think Steve new that when he was at my house that
day, when I explained it.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: What if this is limited here to the width
coming in and then the same width to access?
FRED DACIMO: No problem.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: What if you reduce the width to the access with
the same width.
FRED DACIMO: I could certainly with this. I have no problem with
that.
STEVE LATSON: Why can' t you cut this over here so that everybody
has plenty of room to go through here. At least 60 or 70, 80
feet and just come out here? Why do you have to go in here?
FRED DACIMO: Because it is too shallow here. Boats run aground.
STEVE LATSON: No. Why not here.
FRED DACIMO: Because the DEC won't let us come close to here.
HENRY SMITH: The DEC was very specific.
STEVE LATSON: Coastal Management will tell you never, never take
out habitat bottom. That is before you start to talk about
public access.
MERLON WIGGIN: We know. We have had people out there.
STEVEN LATSON: This area has. I can call up the coastal zone
management and explain to them that their policy that says. .
JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K. We don' t have to get in to that. Anyone
else? The initial comments from the CAC were foi' disapproval
prior to scaling the project down. There is a note here with
respect to scallop spawning. Temperatures of ten degrees
centigrade or more would be required so that:'fe scallop spawn
wouldn' t smother. By the time this does go the water
temperatures will be at or near ten degrees centigrade before
the inception of the project. I don' t believe that would be a
problem. It is with in the confines of the basin so it shouldn't
have an effect on the scalloping. Anyone else? Being no further
comments we will close the hearing in the matter of Narrow River
C Marina. :
ALL AYES.
Board offrustees 16 Febr*y 22, 1990
It is now 8:17 . With respect to the application Proper-T
Services on behalf of Rita Martin, Maiden Lane, Mattituck, N.Y.
to construct a walkway
WALTER SMITH: You got away from me. May Ii; say a few words on
Narrow River?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The hearing is closed if you could make a very
brief comment we can attach it.
WALTER SMITH: O.K. I am Walter Smith. You mentioned the The
other thing of interest is that, as Horton as said, as this
sediment has come down from the farms. The farmers in the past
have used a lot of arsenic, a lot of mercury, and a lot of other
materials. Has any analysis been made of this sediment. If right
now it is locked. there in the bottom, it is not going to cause
much difficulty. .If we start pushing it up and spreading it over
the bay, are we going to have a problem. My feeling is has, a
chemical analysis been done of this sediment, so we know exactly
what it contains. The farmers are notorious in spreading over
the years Arsenic, Mercury and other insecticides. This is
draining into Narrow River.. Narrow River has more of a pumping
action, a flushing action. These metals could be there in the
sediment. I am not saying they are. It is something that should
be looked at and looked at very closely before we put a big
mound of it up and then have it slowly seep down into the bay.
We should know what we are doing from a chemical point of view.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K. Thank you. No, the hearing is closed.
This could go on for ever and ever. I think that those of you
who already had appertunity to speak. Professor Smith went after
the bell. I think it was bad of me to include additional
comments after the hearing. This Board try' s to get as much
involvement during the process. The hearing, we afforded
everyone an opportunity to speak and speak repeatedly.
THOMAS SAMUELS: Jay, can we just report on our solution (Susan
Kwit) ?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Sure.
THOMAS SAMUELS: It will just take one second. Larry was familiar
with the original bulkhead behind the one in question. We now
feel we can remove this bulkhead and replace the new one in
place. I will talk to the Kwit' s. I will send a letter to you
modifying the permit for En-Consultants.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you very much.
O.K. Next hearing is in the matter of Rita Martin, Maiden Lane,
Mattituck, to construct a walkway 30' X 4' with steps; hinged
ramp 12' X 4' floating dock 12' X 51 ; install `'two piles to
secure floating dock. There is a submission to amend the.
application which we received yesterday I believe. Are the
dimensions different? I didn' t have the chance to review it.
JAMES FITZGERALD: The walkway is now three feet wide. To take
advantage of your bargain rates.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Good.
JAMES FITZGERALD: It is parallel to the property to the property
line. The Corp. of Engineers were concerned about it being
Board of Trustees :�i8 February22
, 1990
HENRY SMITH: I make motion John Lockwood, Old Harbor Road to
remove and replace his bulkhead and dredging in same location as
his application so states.
JOHN BEDNOSKI: SECOND.
ALL AYES.
HENRY SMITH: I make a motion to approve Susan Kwit to replace in
kind/in place. The application says to replace within one foot
but this will be in kind/in place.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: We have yet received the letter I think we
should look on the. application because in kind/in place is
permit except and '2 don't think they are dredging. I don't
believe there is an application. to dredge with this. We will
have to check the application and make sure the others include
dredging which requires a permit. In this case the applicant
working out the mutual solution will be money in there pocket.
JOHN BEDNOSKI: Second.
ALL AYES.
HENRY SMITH: Sy Stahl, West Road, Cutchogue to replace existing
bulkhead as so stated in his permit.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Second. `
ALL AYES.
HENRY SMITH: Wayne Monson, Smith Drive for his dock in front of
his bulkhead as so stated.
JOHN BEDNOSKI: Second.
ALL AYES: '
. HENRY SMITH: Narrow River Road Marina as so stated in there
latest survey (February 7, 1990) that they have worked on with
the Orient people and and marina people as stated in there
application.
JOHN TUTHILL: I think the one thing he said on this is that it
is a case that everybody has put a lot of attention into. It
certainly a lot of interest to everybody out in Orient. It looks
like everybody has tried hard to come to some kind of a
agreement with everybody. They haven' t changed it 100o but I
think it is not as far out as originally intended. They are
working hard on putting the spoil and finally the DEC is holding
up a little from dredging from where ever the baymen would like
to dredge so I kind of feel that it is a case were all people
- involved are trying hard to cooperate. I will second it.
HENRY SMITH: I agree. I think people worked hard on this marina,
owners, the people of Orient put there time and effort in to try
and work out a deal.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I would like to add some comment for discussion
now that the motion is seconded. I think that if there is a
possibility the DEC could move the channel to the southerly and
incorporate the comments of the Baymen§ Association we should.
It is in keeping with the Coastal Zone Policy. It is good DEC
Policy, good Trustee policy to try to avoid as much as
practical, the shellfish beds. As a long range policy that it
should be noted that the marina already has a "no head" rule I
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would like to see it incorporated in a restrictive covenant in
perpetuity for this site give the important of shellfisheries
there. They are already doing it. They seem committed to doing
the right thing so I would like to see that formalized in
something that forms with the land. That is what I would like to
have included in the motion. If it is impractical to move the
channel and the DEC won't alter their position then let the
current plan we have stand. To the maximum extent practical I
would like to accommodate the the Baymen on this.
HENRY SMITH: O.K. You can put that in my former motion.
JOHN TUTHILL: I will agree with that.
ALL AYES.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Seeing that there is a limited dredge window I
would request that the tentative language on the restrictive
covenant be handled expeditiously through the Town Attorney. At
least getting the memorandum of intent on file with the Town
Attorney prior to filing.
PETER WENCZEL: I just want ask, are you going to dredge up to
the ramp?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: No, the plan is ten feet off the end of the
ramp. In other words as per access the channel as proposed , no.
As Steve said try to get the access channel to the marina to the
south as much as possible. The plan as submitted goes only to
ten feet off the concrete base of the ramp. The slope will start
there to the four feet below mean low water. You could probably
launch a twenty foot boat and still maintain very similar slope
to the ramp. It would probably end up being almost identical to
the current slopes on out when you bring it out.
PETER WENCZEL: It essentially the same thing, John.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: It essentially the same. It will look very much
like the ramp when you extend it.
O.K. Just to recap that, a motion was made and seconded and
amended to include a C&R for no heads and to move the access
portion of the channel to the marina to the southerly most end
if agreeable by the DEC.
Vote of the Board: , ALL AYES.
HENRY SMITH: Next one on Rita Martin. I make a motion that we
approve the application with the stipulation that the walkway be
changed to three feet and to make the float parallel to and
fifteen feet off the property line.
JOHN BEDNOSKI : Second.
ALL AYES.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K. If there be no objection I would move that
the Board take a five minute recess before going back on the
regular agenda.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I will second that.
Meeting was resumed.
V. MOORINGS:
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JOHN BREDEMEYER: In the matter of the NARROW RIVER MARINA, • we
C, will open it for comments which we will annex to the public
hearing when it is held at the next meeting, when it is
scheduled.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Why are we doing this?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Because the chairman at the last meeting had
indicated we would go to public hearing, and a number of people
had called the office and were under the impression there would
be a public hearing, and subsequently there was none scheduled.
JOHN TUTHILL: There ale a lot of people here.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: We might just as well take time. OK, anyone
wishing to speak on behalf of this application?
My name is HARRY FARRIELL: I'm a resident of Connecticut and
owner of a 22 foot boat which I use to come visit this beautiful .
area on a number of occasions during the summer. I would just
like to relate to you what happened on Monday' s outing. We came ,
over to visit the Narrow River Marina, and upon approaching the
marina in the area for public boats, launching area, what
appeared to be a sufficiently wide channel, was in fact, quite
shallow. Our approach was made during low tide. The out-drive
on my boat struck the ground, we lost power. Boats were being
launched from the launching area. At that point, it was
�. necessary for me to go inside to keep my boat from other boats
that were being launched. In doing so, I received quite a
severe cut on the foot. We eventually tied a line on the boat
and towed it in to the marina with another boat. It' s just my
feeling that this dredging project, certainly makes for a much
safer approach to the marina, especially in the area where 'the
boats are being launched from the public launching ramp. It
gets a little congested in there, due to its being so narrow in
depth at low tide. Do you question that?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: There' s just one question I have. Do you have
a marine toilet on your boat?
MR. FARRIELL: No, sir, I don't.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: OK, thank you, any questions from Board
members? Anyone else wishing to speak on this application?
MERLON WIGGIN: Just appreciate the opportunity for the
- people to come and talk about the Narrow River Marina project. I
think that maybe the public, people have heard.-about this, like
there' s some misconception about this. I' ll. try to provide some
clarification. Also, those who took the timerfo come here, right
after this, if they would like to see the drawings, the
photographs, etc. , both the owner and myself will be available.
We can go out in the hall or whatever they would like to do, if
they want to look at the drawings in addition to what we talked
about here. First of all, the project is primarily for
dredging. It' s not, like some people may have heard, for marina
enlargement. There is no plan to enlarge the marina. The boats
are small; there will be no heads. There are no heads on the
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boat. This marina is at the end of a historic channel, which
goes back many years. Those that remember the old part of
Orient, those who have seen the diary and seen the pictures of
when they hauled manure in from New York,tCity and used all the'
farmland. They went adjacent to this area, to unload it. Also,
they shipped produce out of this; there here side wheels that
have been in there and two master sailboats, I'm sure John
remembers this. A lot of people talk about this. One of the
things we tried to do is utilize that existing channel to
sharpen the area that the boats travel back and forth in
Hallocks Bay. The cause and the need for this dredging is from
silting that has occurred over the years. primarily from two
sources: the state runoff, from the highway and particularly, the
culverts under the road, under the town road, and this has
caused a lot of build up of silt in that particular area. In
fact, when we talked with the Town about getting the permission
to stock pile, temporarily, the spoil on the Town property that
they said they would try to get some preventive action to try to
limit that runoff and silt that has taken place. As I mentioned,
the proposal does include the dredging in front of the Town
ramp. This is being done as a service by the owner. It' s at his
expense, and people don' t want it cause he' ll save money by not
doing it. He •felt from comments here, heard, that the access by
the people of Southold Town . .tape being changed. . . .as a I
was talking about, there are hazards that have been developed to
the use of the small boat, and that is when the boats run
aground at low tide, the silt is so deep and it will not support
the weight of a . . (someone coughed) . . or even a child. I 'm very
concerned that someone at low tide, get in there, especially in
the early spring, and they try to walk ashore, even though the
water may be only a foot deep, it does not support the weight
and we are worried about someone getting injured or drowning in
silt, and we don't want that to happen, in interest of boating
safety. As far as the shellfish, the owner has observed, and he
has been in this area, as far as we know and he knows, there' s
has been no shellfishing in that area of proposed dredging in
the two years that he has been there. We discussed the
shellfishing with the shellfish people in Stony Brook, they
are familiar with the area, they described the conditions, and
its their opinion that because of the deep silt will not support
either scallops or clams. The shellfish is good outside that
area as those as we know clamming in that particular area. To
try to do this project right and get everybody involved in it,
we .held an on'-site meeting with the representatives of the .
regulatory agencies. That was back in May of ..1989. Present were
Corps of Engineers, DEC, two people from DEC,, `persons from the
Town Board, Town Trustees, and observed and looked at the area
and discussed it in detail, and the application was based on the
result of that discussion. Believe me, we spent hours going over
this, and reviejing it, so when it came to the application, we
followed the guidelines that were given us at that particular
meeting. Of course, a lot of time has gone by since that, since
May of 1989, and during that time, the Coastal Zone Management
has reviewed the project; they've issued their consistency
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evaluation, which is positive, and the COE is ready to issue
their permit; the DEC is waiting on the Town before they do
�- theirs. A concern of the scheduling is ,the window that the DEC
is going to ask that the dredging be done prior to the end of
April. We also have Town Board Resolution approving the stock
piling of the dredge material with limitations, as you people
are already aware. I will ah. . . there' s also other people
here, including the owner that would like to comment on this',
and hope you will bear with us and as you pointed out, some of
these. people may not be able to come back again for the public
hearing. Thank you.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Anyone else wish to speak on behalf of this
application?
MY NAME IS IAN MCLAUGHLIN, I'm. a resident of Riverhead Town,
and I'm also a small boat owner. My wife)and I have kept our
boat with Narrow River Marina for the last summer, one season,
and I 'd just like to speak in favor of _granting the permit to
dredge. I am familiar with the project; I have discussed with
the owner, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that
we've had this year, at low tide, with a very small day sailor.
We have had on two occasions, to literally have to jump out of
the boat and hand carry it into the slip because of the silting
directly in front of the marina. I literally was up to my knees
and beyond in silt and it wasn' t a very pleasant experience. On
numerous occasi.ons,.. I 've also witnessed local residents trying
to use the public ramp, run into the same problem, and I have
also seen them up to - their knees in silt. It is a potentially
dangerous situation, I would think, and certainly bares looking
at. My wife and I, although we are not residents of the Town,
are very concerned about preserving the environment. My wife,
as a matter of fact, is a biologist at Stony Brook University.
She' s got nothing to do with the shellfish industry, and she
would be quite upset if a project such as this, would upset the
environment. So, just as a boat owner who is concerned about the
safety and .the use of facilities in the water surrounding this
area, I .strongly urge that you grant this permit. Thank you
very much.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Anyone else here to speak on behalf in favor
of this application?
I 'm FRED DACIMO, I own Narrow River Marina and I just want to
reinforce a couple of ideas. Number one: we' re a small
operation and my plans are to stay that way. We try to cater to
- local people, Southold people. As a matter of fact, I notice Ed
White is in the audience. I'm a member of the .-Orient Rod and
Gun Club, and I extend a ten percent discount -to any member of
the R & G Club with the thought that those are local, I try to,
ah, really, ah. .do business with most of our local people.
Also, as Merl mentioned, we had Ruth Oliver, Ellen Larsen,
Freddie Wachsberger representing the Orient Association at
our house, reviewing the plans and they had no objections to
it. And as you know, the Town Board voted it was okay to put
the spoils, temporarily on the Town ramp, which in my mind was a
back-door endorsement of the project. I also have a petition
that signed off by approximately thirty-five people, and that' s,
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I think I had thirty-eight people, ok, in the marina that
support the project , and I would like to submit this to the C Board of Trustees for, you know, their consideration. That' s
about all I have.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: A quick question, the petition, you' re saying
that these names are in addition to those people who normally
have boats in the marina?
FRED DACIMO: No, those are the people who had boats in the
marina, although there are some names on there that don' t have
boats in the marina.
ALBERT KRUPSKI : Could you clarify what do you mean by a
back-door endorsement by the Town Board? The Town Board has no
regulation over this, actually.
FRED DACIMO: I didn' t think that they did, except that I
would assume, and I may be incorrect,_ that when I made the
request to put dredge spoil on Town property, if the Town Board
disapproved what the process of the project itself , I would
assume that they would not vote to do that.
ALBERT KRUPSKI : I don' t believe the Town Board reviewed this
project, did they?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: They reviewed with respect to spoil placement.
I would suspect that there were some preview of the facts
surrounding it, but we can't speak for the Town Board. They
obviously had to have looked at some of the concerns about use
of the Town ramp there. That was discussed, we have a
resolution in the file on that.
JOHN TUTHILL: John, do we have a map of where this. . . ?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Yes we do, we have a map. OK, anyone else,
thank you, Mr. Dacimo, anyone else to speak on behalf of the
application? OK, anyone here, ok, are you going to speak on
behalf of the application?
LARRY TUTHILL: . Yes, I'd just like to say one thing. I think
the reason why this area is silted and so muddy, is actually, it
has been dredged, probably, about in 1960 by Malloy of. .over
in New London, and I think that this probably should be taken
under maintenance dredging, because it was -.done prior to this,
and that' s why it is so silted and muddy in that area, and it .
was done by Ed King back in 1960.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The Trustees were considering other
maintenance type as far as our initial review of it. If we did
realize there were some activities there prior, and there' s the
old channel that goes up to it. "
ALBERT KRUPSKI: We've never seen any documentation proving
that though, and we need. documentation.
JOHN 'BREDEMEYER: As far as the old Hallock ehannel, the
photographs were submitted. . .
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I 'm not talking the Hallock channel. I 'm
talking about the area of the ' boat ramp.
FROM AUDIENCE: Do you need documentation on it?
ALBERT KRUPSKI : Oh, we would, to consider it a maintenance
project, absolutely.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Anyone here to speak against the application?
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RICHARD LATHAM: Some of our people left,' I guess they
misunderstood and thought it was cancelled, and I guess we'd
have more people if more people knew about it.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Well, there' ll be a full formal hearing after
notification, so. .go ahead.
RICHARD LATHAM: The. .ah . .brought up the original marina,
which is illegally placed there; no permit, dredged with no
permit, and I don' t consider this maintenance dredging. I think
that we have a good bay, it' s coming back, and we' re just going
to open it up to some of these bigger boats and . .ah. .
problems. It' s just a start, it' s just a start. It' s not a real
big deal, just a start. ',I think you cut it down some, as far as
I can see, and I think that' s good. I think it should be cut
more. The launching ramp should be taken out and put it back
behind the line where it' s not" suitable for shellf ishing. We
don't want to take it away from the owners, everything, they've
got to have something in shoal in there. The survey that you
have and the last letter, I think it' s January 2, don't seem to
match up.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: With respect to what?
MR. LATHAM: Well, you said no dredging in front of the ramp,
but it shows that on the survey.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: That has got to be clarified. I believe that
in connection was the shoal that the DEC required removed, which
was that area immediately to the west of the ramp between what
would be the ramp and the Kerb' s property. That, originally
was all that area was included and that's not very specific,
that language, but what happened is, the DEC removed that shoal
which is full of clams from the dredge project and that was what
was meant by no dredging in front of the ramp. The Board hasn't
really made a decision on that ramp. We' re still gathering, I
think, it' s a question we' re still gathering information, the
pros and cons of permitting the immediate area in front of the
ramp to be dredged, if any dredging is to take place at all.
MR. LATHAM: As far as shellfishing in that area, people are
getting shellfish out there, they have. It' s not a dead area.
As somebody mentioned before, the marina *is good for small
boats. It' s what it' s doing now, sailboats, outboards, a
twenty-two footer that came in and got stuck, is stretching it
a little bit, I think. That' s my opinion. If you also
advertise "full service" , and this .marina advertises full
- service in some folder, and now I don' t believe-,that it is or
maybe they intend to be one, but it' s not now. . ,'I don! t think we
want to see a full service marina there. As far as the Town
Board, I can' t believe that . the Town Board would do a thing like
this just for anyone. I just don' t know why. They' re just
going to make a mess out of it. It' ll be a mess when you put
2000 yards of dredge spoil on the place I would think, isn' t
it? Who' s to guarantee, without a performance bond, it' ll be
put back the way it' s supposed to be?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The Town Board, in its wisdom required an
insurance policy which is a. . .
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MR. LATHAM: That' s a liability insurance, I believe, it' s not
a performance bond to make sure the work is done.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Are you suggesting that if. . .
MR. LATHAM: I'm suggesting a performance bond for whatever '
you do. I'm also suggesting, whatever you do, and I hope it' s
smaller than what you want to do, that you have a covenant in
perpetuity to restrict further development and enlargement of
the marina. I don' t think the people can make a full living out
of this thing. It' s a good marina, but you know, it' s not a big
one, cash generator, I don't think, and they want to enlarge
it. INAUDIBLE, RUSTLING OF MAP It's coming back, just as sure
as we' re standing here. There' s going to be scallops there
pretty soon. It' s the last good bay we have. Thank you.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you, anyone else here to speak against
this project?
I'm not going to speak against it, but I'm going to speak to get
some information. (Stewart Horton)
STEWART HORTON: First of all, I have no objection to this
project as it is constituted, but I do have some questions.
Number one, I am not at all familiar with your procedures as far
as issuing resolutions before a public hearing, how does that
take place? I may be very naive to ask that question, but that
seems to be, again, attacking behind them.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: OK, if you would like to direct me, I ' ll be
glad to answer that: to you. The State Environmental Quality
Review Act -requires an assessment to be made of a project and
declaration of Lead Agency. In other words, who' s up first, as
the beginning of the process, and so essentially, what takes
place, whenever an application comes in, the Trustees have to
co-ordinate, particularly when it' s in a critical environmental
area. We are required by State Law to co-ordinate our
activities with the other involved agencies, and for us to
conduct any business of do-ordination or any other activity, we
have to do it by resolution of the Board, because we have five
individuals here with all very different ideas on many different
things, and it requires, at least with- respect to the
applications that are under SEQRA, that we -.do such a thing. So
we decide with the DEC who' s up first. In this case, the DEC .
initially sent us a letter out, saying that they are assuming
we' re up first and we never even went through the trouble of
making that formal resolution, and that' s why you have some
resolutions that show up prior to the public hearing, but they
have nothing to do with the substance of the, as far as lead,
the substance of the issuance of a permit or any of the
conditions on a permit. That has nothing to do with it.
MR. HORTON: - . . .INAUDIBLE. .It says here thatrft' s going to be
dredged our feet. Now, is that four feet from bottom level,
MLW, or what level?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: That' s designated usually BMLW is standard.
MR. HORTON: Well, as I said, I personally, and I don' t think
many are in this who are somewhat concerned about this are
really concerned about this project per se.. The problem is, and
I ' ll put it in my nutshell. Basically, there is a lot of
undercurrent against this project in. Orient, and I think a lot
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of it is based on this information. There is a fear and a
distrust of the local politics and state politics along with all
the other politics, but we have a situation mark going. This
leads off almost to the northeast wing of the old channel,
almost. That' s deep. That channel goes right. back to Browns -
Point and immediately runs into shoaling where it' s going in
between Browns Point and the. Peters Neck. Word has come down to
some of us who are rather active around Hallocks Bay as
hunters and environmentalists, bay people, residents that the
Town was going to apply for maintenance dredging permit to make
sure, if in some horrendous storm situation and Petes Neck is
closed, we can get the County in there and bail it out. Now, by
the expression on your face, . this is news to you. But this is
going on. That leads to a point of, well, we have done this
project, and perhaps there are certain machinations that take
place over the next few years, and wouldn' t it be a good idea if
we dredge out between Browns Point and the Petes Neck, or
various. . . .Now this is the psychology you' re dealing with in
Orient, and I don' t believe you, as a Board, can give us any
reservations or guarantees that this would not be the case in
the future.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Well, I ' ll give you a guarantee right now. For
the term of my office, I've got four more years, I' ll never vote
for any dredging in the entrance of Hallocks Bay.
MR. HORTON: I 'm sure the present Board has constituted that it
never would. These are some of the underlying concerns. I think
they should be addressed, and they probably will be further
addressed at the public hearing. So as I say, at this point and
time, I have no negative view. I think the maintenance dredging
there, it would remove hydrocarbons- that have been there from
prior usage of heavy metals from the old dump that were there in
the 30' s and 401s. Fine, but it does lead to the Pandora' s
Box.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: While you're on the subject, since you said
it, what about, what prior activities do you know that we should
be aware of as far as the immediate area? You said hydrocarbons
and heavy metals.
MR. HORTON: Probably just about that area alone. The
agricultural activities in the 30' s 40 ' s and 50' s are the
parathion and malathion, all the other good things they used.
We' re now beginning to see the return, seeing small steamers,
seeing some grass shrimp, little fiddler crabs. It' ll be a
shame to reverse that trend. As Richie Latham said, it' s
the last, not pristine, but the last finest bit of water we
have in Southold Town, and we'd like to keep, it that way. So, I
think, perhaps more reassurances might be in.'Srder. I got up
here to say my piece. You've answered my questions, I think I
put out a little information for everybody. I thank you.-
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you.
JOHN TUTHILL: We have a real expert here. Ed Adams, I wish
you'd come up and show us where the old channel used to be. I 've
got the map here.
VIEWING THE MAP
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ED ADAMS: If you want my opinion, I don' t think there should be
any digging done out here at all.
REVIEWING MAP AND PICTURES
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Is there anyone else that' s going to speak on'
this matter? I'd like, a rough show of hands so we can know
where the meeting is going. f'
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: In general . . . . ( inaudible,more than one
voice) state highway runoff. Are you talking from the Main
Road?
MERLON WIGGIN: From the Main Road
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: Just a ,point, I've done some puttering around
back there, and I suspect . . . . . .more than one voice, cutting
out speaker.
JOHN TUTHILL: Mr. Wiggin, would you like to come up here
and we' ll show you where that old channel used to be.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Is there anyone to speak against this
application? If there are no further comments from the people
here tonight, the Board members have any questions or have
anything to say?
JOHN TUTHILL: Well, I've got one comment on it. I think this
(survey or map) shows digging out around the marina and into the
bay, but also shows about 700 or 800 feet right out into the
bay, and that was not the old channel that we just showed. It
doesn' t seem to me that there' s any reason at all for digging
this 700 or 800 feet straight out into the bay. Now, we might
. make some compromise and dig it out right next to the marina a
few feet from the end there.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: That' s something to think about for the future.
JOHN TUTHILL: That' s my comment on it. I think Hallocks
Bay is a , it' s what everybody' s been talking about and wanted
to save and everything. Digging the channel like that is not
one way to do it.
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: One comment—I just—what is the application
as it stands now? It' s been revised a couple of times, it wants
to dredge out the marina area
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Why don't you come and take a look? Steve
Latson, if you want to speak while they're looking at the map.
STEVE LATSON: I'm a representative of the Baymen' s
Association and also I 'm in the North Fork Environmental
Council. I just want to make a couple of comments, cause I met
the same day that Ellen, Ruth and Freddie met with the marina
operator, and the map that was there then, we had a lot of
problems with. And they had no problem changing the map, the
only thing is, now the map isn' t the way we changed it,
whatsoever. What we all agreed to that day, If I could show you.
JOHN TUTHILL: Sure, we need to know that. H6re' s the map. '
STEVE LATSON: Well, first of all, we all agreed that
shellfishing is very good in front of the boat ramp, which it
is, it' s excellent, it' s all hard bottom. You've heard
testimony that people sink in silt there, that' s not true,
whatsoever. Out in the middle it is very silty. You have to go
about 75 feet off the boat ramp, the end of it before you get
to the real silty bottom. Historically, twelve years ago when I
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kept my boat at this marina, it was the same depth then as it is
now.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: At the marina or at the town landing?
STEVE LATSON: I kept it at the marina. /I was rich then.
Anyway, you know I had, to pull my engine:;lup to get in there at
low tide, and it' s just always been very'-shallow there. I don't
think you've seen a lot of silt collect in that area because
it' s so shallow already. It' s too shallow to collect more
silt. What we finally decided, though, was instead of all this
dredging area around this area where there is good
shellfishing, in other words, this line is about where the
line of good shellfishing ends. We said, if they did propose
the channel, it should just go right out the middle, if anything
favoring the Samuels. or ex Samuels -property, be maybe
twenty-five feet wide, it' s just go down like two feet,, and then
you'd have three feet of water at low tide, and that would
adequately service every boat, go no further out than where
Frank Begora' s stake is; I don' t know if it' s still there.
(pointing on map as to location) Just have a narrow channel, and
the marina operator said that was fine and we have no problem
with the bays.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I think the DEC, I think was one of the ones
that did the reviewing of plans, had reluctance of running along
that shore, but I'm sure, if that' s a concern and we have
valuable shellfish lands, we could ask for reconsideration on
the line of that.
STEVE LATSON: I think what to remind the DEC is that per
square foot they' re paying more for the Koke-Kerb property
than they did the Samuels property. And then they ought to go a
little closer to the Samuels property, possibly, and especially
because that it is real dead bottom, as long as you don' t get
out too far. This is the kind of revision we'd like to see and
the day we had the meeting with the marine operators, they
seemed to be very happy with that. Since then, someone
suggested to me that the real reason they want to dredge the
boat ramp area so they can get the barge in there either at low
or high tide so they can get rid of their spoil. And, you know
cause at that bay, well, we don' t want to disturb
shellfishing. Well, I said this is a great shellfish area and
anybody in town knows that. They ought to re-draw this thing,
put the channel right through the middle more, keep it to the
south, if anything, make it narrow, make a minimal channel,
- minimal expense to them, and personally, I don' t` see why they
don't use their own parking lot for the temporary spoil. That's
the way I. feel, and I think the NF Environmental Council feels
that way and I think a lot of baymen feel thaf way. We didn' t
discuss it at our last meeting, but you know, otherwise, it' ll
be okay to do a nice small job.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I 'm going to say one thing. I 'm very
concerned about the future, as several people have said. I'm
wondering, cause assurances will be what a lot of people will be '
looking for. I 'm wondering, is the operation, Mr. Dacimo,
prepared to accept restrictive covenants that the Trustees might
place upon it with respect to boat size, and/or degree with
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which it might request to expand operations in the future out
into Town waters? Because, essentially, the operation there
exists at the pleasure of this Board in that all the activities
are on Town bottom.
MR. DACIMO: Yes, I understand, the bottom that' s in the marina
itself, I own, OK. That' s my understanding. I am certainly
willing to accept a size being placed on boats, absolutely,
that' s not a problem, provided that it' s bounded by the boats
that are currently in the marina. I guess the second thing is,
as far as where the channel goes, there' s a clear
misunderstanding between Mr. Latson and myself. It was very
interesting because at the end of our discussion at my house
that day, it was my impression that Steve was clearly disturbed
with the compromise that was made between Ruth, Ellen Larsen,
Freddie .Wachsberger, and myself, and Merle was there also. '
So, I guess, there is .something, something missing here, I 'm not
exactly sure what that is. The third thing I'm very concerned
about is, we can go out and put on a set of waders today, now
that the ice is gone, and I'd like to see the hard bottom.
There are a number of people who will tell you that the bottom
is full of muck right across and there isn' t any hard bottom in
that area. I am absolutely amazed that he can sit there, stand
there and say that.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: What was the meeting with Ellen Larsen and
Ruth Oliver and Freddie Wachsberger?
MR. DACIMO: The purpose of discussion . . .INAUDIBLE. . . . .
brought up an interesting point as far as what kind of
information is out there on this project, and really our intent
in that discussion was to explain what the project was and get
input from different individuals.
ALBERT KRUPSKI : But, you used the word "compromise" in that,
that just goes back to the back-door deal you talked about-with
the Town Board that .
HENRY SMITH: It was just a figure of speech.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Let me finish, let me finish, please. I
don' t understand why or how you're making a compromise on the
project with the Board that you are dealing with not present. I
don' t quite understand.
MERLON WIGGIN: I would like to clear up the
misunderstanding. It was a pre-application meeting at the site
with representatives of the Trustees . . .INAUDIBLE. . Albert
Kruspski spoke at same time saving he was present.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: No, no, I 'm referring to a separate meeting
with members of the people besides, besides members of the Board
of Trustees. . . . . .INAUDIBLE. . . .someone in audience speaking at
the same time. r
FROM AUDIENCE, POSSIBLY MR. DACIMO: The purpose of the
meeting with the Town Board individuals was really to cut them
into the project, because we were asking to place spoil on the
property. In response to the other point, as far as dredging in
front of the Town ramp, I won' t be in that dredging project in
front of the Town ramp, it' ll save me some money. I'm offering _
that just as a service to the Town. If the Town does not want
that, I will be glad to delete that from the project.
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HENRY SMITH: It seems to me that a while back, you came to this
idea of this dredging -thing, and we told you that you had to
come up with a spoil site before we could even consider it, and.
I think you came up with that spoil site:,, So right now we' re in
a considering stage, and from listening to these people in
Orient and listening to yourself, the people of Orient are
concerned with the future of Hallocks Bay, which I can' t blame
them, because the track record in the rest of the Town is not
that great, and you want to get your boats in. So it seems to me
that they're not probably against your project, but they want to
go small, they want to go easy, and I think they just want it
enough so you can get by' and they don' t want to restrict your
boat, but they want to keep the project small and I think if we
restrict the size of. the boat that you have in there now, and I
think a plan could be made out from the most of the rest of
these people and yourself.
MR. DACIMO: We are willing to work with the proper
individuals to do that, certainly. We live in the house that' s
on that property, and I don' t want to see, you know, 35 and 40
foot cruisers with heads come in there. I love to fish, I love
to duck hunt, I like to shellfish, I enjoy . . ah. .you know,
the whole attraction to us buying that marina was .exactly the
thing we don' t, . . we want to continue to enjoy those things,
ok. Because we live on the property, it' s not like, maybe,
smaller operations where business, fulltime business and, you
know, we don' t really see it they way.
HENRY SMITH: I agree, but I think that, I have a feeling that,
you know, between you and the residents of Orient and ourselves
that something, eventually, can be worked out on this.
MR. DACIMO: I guess I would want to comment that the
. .ah. .from the marker that' s out there to the marina, if that
can' t be dredged, there's no sense in doing anything.
HENRY SMITH: But, you know, the people of Orient, I mean, you
know, they. . a couple of years ago the State, I think they came
to us. and they wanted to apply for a permit to dredge in Pete
Neck. They weren' t going to do it, they just wanted to .apply
for the permit, so if they ever needed it. or anything like that.
Well, these people shot them right down, and you know, which is
their prerogative to do, but you know, they want to go very
lightly here and they' re scared. I don' t blame them because the
State is buying land in there, taking land over," and the State
owns all that park property, and there' s no telling what the
hell the State will do some day. They are liable to make a
State marina in there or something or try to- or do something
like that. You know, these people are very concerned, so I
think that the. . . they will work with you, but let' s keep it
really down to the bare minimum
MR. DACIMO: As owners of the business, we' ll certainly
provide the necessary assurances to the people that what I'm
saying I want to do is all we will do.
HENRY SMITH: Right, I'm sure most of these people here are your
friends in Orient. I mean and they just, you know. .so
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MR. DACIMO: We' re willing to do whatever it takes to provide
that, those assurances, whatever policy or whatever it takes to
do that.
HENRY SMITH: Right, but, you know, I think, after this meeting
is over you should tally to these people aid see how you can
scale down this project so you can live with it and they can
live with it. Then you come back to us with an application, I
think there' ll be no problem with it. But right now, I think
you have to talk to the baymen and residents of Orient and
things like that to get the project so. . .
JOHN TUTHILL: If you want to start a little meeting like that
with some of the people that work around there and everything,
I'm also from Orient, I' ll be glad to sit in there with you and
see what we can work out because we still don't want to mess up
Hallocks Bay.
MR. DACIMO: Nor do. we .want to see Hallocks Bay messed up.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Ok
MERLON WIGGIN: We' ll take that off—we've been doing that,
working with the Orient people. .
HENRY SMITH: But I think the biggest thing with the residents
of Orient, there was a lot of mis-information going around,
and I think once the people get the .right information, why, you
know, there' ll be something that can be worked out.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: OK, anyone else to speak on this? OK, if
there' s no other comments on this, I 'm going to ask that we go
into about a 5-minute recess.
HENRY SMITH: Sounds good to me.
AL KRUPKSI : I ' ll second that. C!
MEETING IS RECESSED.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Will you take the minutes in the absence of
the Clerk? We' re going to move three items.
JOHN TUTHILL: You' re talking to me?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Yes, you' re alternate clerk, if you just take
the minutes on this. These are three items with respect to the
critical environmental areas.
The first one is to amend the designation to .read the entirety
of all named creeks and Arshamomaque Pond .to the north of
State Route 25. The amendment is to mean Arshamomaque Pond
should be north of State Route 25. All right, the reason for
this is the designations where we've had highways in the past,
we've designated north of the intersecting roads We did that
down at Kimogener Point, as you recall. May I -_have a
resolution on that?
JOHN BEDNOSKI: So moved.
AL KRUPSKI: Second. ALL AYES
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The second one is to include all of Deep Hole
Creek inclusive of all tributaries north of New Suffolk Avenue
and east of Meadow Lane (At last month' s meeting the tributary,
which was off Meadow Lane, had been omitted when maps were
drawn) .
HENRY SMITH: So moved.
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PERMIT NO. 380.9... DATE: .Feb.....23.,....1490 .:
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Pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 615 of the Laws of !!
the State of New York, 1893; and Chapter 404 of the Laws of the �-
~ '. 'I State of New York 1952; and the Southold Town Ordinance en- !;. ~
titled "REGULATING AND THE PLACING OF OBSTRUCTIONS �b•
IN AND ON TOWN WATERS AND PUBLIC LANDS and the
REMOVAL OF SAND, GRAVEL OR OTHER MATERIALS FROM iF
r �y LANDS UNDER TOWN WATERS;" and in accordance with the
Resolution of The Board adopted at a meeting held on ...Feb......2Z.....
19..9.0...., and in consideration of the sum of $...........
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Terms and "Conditions listed on the reverse side hereof,.
of Southold Town Trustees authorizes and permits the following: F.
Dredge existing channel to 4' in depth (Approximately ; �►-`�
2100 c.y.) at points indicated and dredging marina
s a,, entrance silted in from storm. There shall be no boats with
'a marine toilets, "Heads". As stated in the C&Rs, filed 2/27/901
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1 all in accordance with the detailed specifications as presented in
the originating application.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF The said Board of Trustees here-
1; by causes its Corporate Seal to be affixed, and these presents to j
be subscribed by a majority of th aid Board as of this date.!. e
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TERMS and CONDITIONS
The permittee Fred Dacimol Narroyl River- Marina
residing at Narrow River Road, Orient N. Y., as .
part of the consideration for the issuance of the Permit does understand and prescribe to the foi-
lowing:
1. That the said Board of Trustees and the Town of.Southold are released from any and
all damages, or claims for damages, of suits, arising directly or indirectly as a result of any oper-
ation performed pursuant to this permit, and the said Permittee will, at his or her own expense,
defend any and all such suits initiated by third parties, and the said Permittee assumes full liability
with respect thereto, to the complete exclusion of the Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold
2. That this Permit is valid for .a period of 24 mos. which is considered to be the
estimated time required to complete the work involved, but should circumstances warrant, request
for an extension may be made to the Board at a later date.
3. That this Permit should be retained indefinitely, or as long,as the said Permittee wishes
to maintain the structure or project involved, to provide evidence to anyone concerned that auth-
orization was originally obtained.
4. That -the work involved will be subject to the inspection and approval of the Board or
its agents, and non-compliance.with the provisions of the originating application,may be cause for
revocation of this Permit by resolution of the said Board.
5. That there will be no unreasonable interference with navigation as a result of the work
herein authorized.
6. That there shall be no interference with the right of the public to pass and repass along
the beach between high and low water marks.
7. That if future operations of the Town of Southold require the removal and/or alterations
in the location of the work herein authorized, or if, in the opinion of the Board of Trustees, the
work shall cause unreasonable obstruction to free navigation, the said Permittee will be required,
upon due notice, to remove or alter this work or project herein stated without expenses to the Town
of Southold.
S. That the said Board will be notified by the Permittee of the completion of the work auth-
orized.
9. That the Permittee will obtain all other permits and consents -that may be required snp-
plementaL,,to this permit which may be subject to revoke upon failure to obtain same.
TRUSTEES e� ' `:':. ' hx ` R '� SCOTT L. HARRIS
Supervisor
John M. Bredemeyer, III, President �-
Henry P. Smith, Vice President
Albert J. Krupski, Jr. Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
John L. Bednoski, Jr.
thold, New York
John B. Tuthill BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Sou Fax (5 6) 765 823971
Telephone (516) 765-1892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone(516) 765-1800
February 27, 1990
Merlon Wiggin
One Bootleg Alley
Greenport, NY 11944
Re: App. No. 8-1-89-27-2-4
Dear Mr. Wiggin:
The following action was taken by the Board of Town Trustees
during its regular meeting held on February 22, 1990 regarding the
above matter:
WHEREAS, Peconic Associates on behalf of Fred Dacimo applied to the
Southold Town Trustees for a permit under the provisions of the
Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold, application dated July 24,
1989 and,
WHEREAS said application was - referred to the Southold Town
Conservation Advisory Council for their findings and recommendations,
and,
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Trustees with respect
to said application on February 22, 1990 at which time all .
interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, and,
WHEREAS, the Board members have personally viewed and are familiar
with the premises in question and the surrounding area, and,
WHEREAS, the Board has considered all the testimony and documentation
submitted concerning this application, and,
WHEREAS, the Board has determined that the project as proposed will
- not affect the health, safety and general welfare of the people of
the town,
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT
- RESOLVED THAT PECONIC ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF NARROW RIVER MARINA BE
AND HEREBY IS GRANTED PERMISSION UNDER THE WETLAND ORDINANCE TO:
Dredge existing channel to 4 ' in depth (approximately 2100 c.y. ) at
points indicated and dredging marina entrance silted in from storm
and highway runoff.
This permit will expire two years from the date it is signed if
work has not commenced by said date. Fees must be paid, if
applicable, and permit issued within six months of the date of this
notification. Two inspections are required and the Trustees are to
be notified upon completion of said project.
Please return to the Building Department for a determination on
the need for any other permits which may be required for this project.
While -the Trustees do not have jurisdiction on the parking
lot/ramp area greater than 75' from the wetlands it is understood
that every effort will be made to keep spoils north of a line
connecting the "no dumping" sign and mooring stake number 12.
Furthermore, any operations on the parking lot should be reviewed by
the Highway Department. for their approval.
Every effort should be made to move the access channel into the
marina basin further south to minimize the impact on a small number
of clams known to be there.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS
A restrictive covenant banning boats with marine toilets known
as "heads" capable of direct discharge overboard shall be filed and
run in perpetuity with the land.
The clerk shall possess a copy of a liability insurance policy
for Trustee property naming the Town Trustees as insured for the same
amount as required by the Town Board for upland operations.
As per Board standing policy a final survey by a licenced
surveyor shall be .submitted within 90 days of completion of this
project for use by the Bay Constable to verify project compliance.
Fees, if any, shall be computed based on the .final approved
N.Y.S.D.E.C.
Very truly yours,
John M. Bredemeyer, III
--President
Board of Town Trustees
JMB:jmt
cc: Bldg. Dept.
Conservation Advisory Council
N.Y.S.D.E.C.
file
} 110*Pu105 i
DECLARATION OF COVENANTS''AND RESTRICTIONS
THIS DECLARATION, made the 24th day .of. February, 1990 by
FRED DACIMO, residing at 31 O:swegatchie Road, Waterford, Connecti
FIST . cut,' 06385, : hereinafter referred to as the DECLARANT, the owner of
0000 the premises described in Schedule "A" annexed hereto, hereinafter
SECT . referred to as the. PREMISES, who desires to restrict. the.. use and
C27.00 ' `o ent of said PREMISES and has for such .purposes determined to -
- . enjoyment
BLOCK impose; on ..said ,PREMISES covenants, and . restrictions and does.�hereby
G 2.00 . declare that said PREMISES shall be, held and shall be conveyed
LOT- subject_,to the following covenants and restrictions:
;.:
004..000
.1 . WHEREAS` DECLARANT has made application to theBoard of.
Trustees of the Town of, -Southold for a ,permit to dredge certain
' parts of a body of water known .as "Narrow River" on and in ,the vi-
�°"'" cinity. of :DECLARANT'S PREMISES ; and
FE5. 1990 ? . WHEREAS The Board. of Trustees of . the Town of Southold has
agreed _ to issue said permit. only if there be a record covenant
^y that. boats with marine toilets, also known as "heads," capable of
direct discharge overboard shall not be, afforded bearthing and/or
mooring space at the PREMISES;
IT IS. DECLARED AND COVENANTED BY DECLARANT, his heirs or suc-
cessors and assigns forever, - that boats with marine toilets, also
known as "heads," capable of direct discharge overboard shall. not
'i. be afforded bearthing and/or .mooring space. at the PREMISES
3. -The. .DECLARANT, 'his :.successors and .assigns .shall set forth.
these .covenants, agreements and declarations in any and. all leases
�. to occupants, tenants and/or lessees of the above-described prop-,
erty:and shall, by their terms, subject same to the covenants and
restrictions ` contained herein. Failure of.. the DECLARANT, his suc
cessors .and assigns; to so condition the leases shall not invalidate_
their - automatic subjugation :to the covenants and restrictions.
,. 4. All of_ the covenants.' and restrictions contained herein
€ 4 shall be construed to' be in addition to and' not in derogation or
4
limitation '.upon any provisions of local, `state and federal laws,
1 `v ordinances and/or regulations 'in effect at the time of execution of
this agreement, or at the time such laws, ordinances and/or regu-
- - J
1102*106
1 lations may thereafter be revised amended or promulgated.
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5. This document is made subject to the provisions of all
laws required by law or by their provisions to be incorporated
herein and they are deemed to be incorporated herein and made a
part hereof, as though fully set forth.
6. The aforementioned restrictive covenants shall be en-
forceable by The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold by in-
junctive relief or by any other. remedy in or at law. The
i
failure of said Board to enforce the same- shall not be deemed to
affect the validity of this covenant npr to impose any liability
-�
whatsoever upon The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold or
any officer or ,employee thereof.
7. These covenants and restrictions shall run with the land
and shall be . binding upon the DECLARANT, his successors and assigns
and upon all persons or entities claiming under them, and may be
terminated, revoked or amended. by the owner of the PREMISES only.
with the written consent of The Board of Trustees of the Town of
Southold.
STATE OF NEW YORK
j ss.:
County of Suffolk
d Clerk of the Supreme Court of the State
I, EDWARD P. ROMo said I CClerk of the ounty(aid C County rt be'ng aCon rt of Record)DO HEREBY CERTIFY that
of New York in and
I ave comp red the annexed copy of �" /_�, i/c� d 3 /° /°
// y��.,�+ v� and
and that it is a just and true copy of such original IU_16 '611_
of the whole thereof.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF,I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County
and Court this o2 7 day of 19 U
�i��/.•"����C
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 6,j Clerk.
12-109..12/89cs
Form No. 104
ure me personally ap-
peared FRED DACIMO, to me known and known to me to be the same in-
dividual descry ed in and who executed the above instrument and
who duly ac owledged to me that he executed the same.
i
Notary Public
FDVARD JOHN E30YD 5th
NOTARY PUBLIC.State of New YA
No.0376625,Suffolk County
Commission Expires 1 30, 19bi
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SCHEDULE "A"
PARCEL I:
ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land, --with the buildings
and improvements thereon erected, situate, lying and being at
Orient, Town of Southold, County-of Suffolk and State of New York,
bounded and described as follows: !•
BEGINNING at a monument at a point of deflection in the easterly
line of 'Narrow River Road where said line is intersected by the
northerly boundary line of land herein described and land now or'
formerly of Edwards;
RUNNING .THENCE along said boundary line South 62 degrees 07 min-
utes 00 seconds East 153 .00 feet more or less, to the ordinary high
water mark of Hallock' s Bay as of June, 1988;
THENCE along said high water mark of Hallock' s, Bay as of June, 1988
southwesterly 350 feet more or less, and 'then southeasterly 260 feet
more or less to land now or formerly of Samuels;
THENCE along last mantioned land, the following two (2) courses and
distances:
1 . South 35 degrees 43 minutes 00 seconds West, 80 feet more
or less;
2 . South 41 degrees 58 minutes '30 seconds West, 221 .79 feet.
to' the northeasterly line of Narrow River Road.
THENCE along said northeasterly line of Narrow River Road North 39
degrees 43 minutes 50 seconds West,. 1.83.72 feet to the corner formed
by the intersection of the northeasterly side of Narrow River Road
with the easterly side of Narrow River Road;
THENCE North 21 degrees 48 minutes 40 seconds East along the easter-
ly side of Narrow River Road 465 .10 feet to the monument at the
point or place of BEGINNING.
PARCEL II :
ALL that piece or parcel of Meadowland at Orient, Town of Southold,
County of Suffolk and State of New York and described as .follows:
t BEGINNING at a point on the . ordinary high water mark of Hallock' s
Bay about 185 feet southwesterly along said high water mark from the
easterly corner of land conveyed by George W. Hallock to Edwin H.
King, as previously described herein; from said point of beginning
running southerly, then southeasterly, then southerly, then north-
westerly and then southwesterly- about 300 feet to said high water
mark; THENCE northeasterly along said high water mark about 175 feet
to the point of BEGINNING.
District 1000, Section 027.00, Block 02.00, Lot 004.000
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Environmental Planners & Consultant¢ �4ne, ootlegAlley P.O.Box672
6�"� �'1
f Y reen ort New York 11944
(516)477-0030
u Fax(516)477-0198
February 26 , 1990Mr . John John M. Bredemeyer III
Southold Town Board of Trustees
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold , L. I .
New York - 11971
Re : Narrow River Marina
Orient , New York
Tax Map No . 1000-027-02-004
Dear John :
Enclosed are the Covenents and Restrictions for subject
project .
Please advise if satisfactory .
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES , INC.
Merlon �' iggli--n , Ph . D. ,M. E .
President
Enclosure
cc : Mr. Fred Dacimo
MEW/iw
DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS
THIS DECLARATION, made the 24th day of February, 1990 by
FRED DACIMO, residing at 31 Oswegatchie Road, Waterford, Connecti-
DIST . cut, 06385, hereinafter referred to as the DECLARANT, the owner of
1000 the premises described in Schedule "A" annexed hereto, hereinafter .
SECT . referred, to as the PREMISES, who desires to restrict the use and
027.00 enjoyment of said PREMISES and has for such purposes determined to
BLOCK impose on said PREMISES covenants and restrictions and does hereby
02 .00 declare that said PREMISES shall be held and shall be conveyed
LOT subject to the following covenants and restrictions:
004.000
1 . WHEREAS DECLARANT has made application to the Board of
Trustees of the Town of Southold for a permit to dredge certain
parts of a body of water known as "Narrow River" on and in the vi-
cinity of DECLARANT'S PREMISES ; and
2 . WHEREAS The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold has
agreed to issue said permit only if there be a record covenant
that boats with marine toilets, also known as "heads," capable of
direct discharge overboard shall not be afforded bearthing and/or
mooring space at the PREMISES;
IT IS DECLARED AND COVENANTED BY DECLARANT, his heirs or suc-
cessors and assigns forever, that boats with marine toilets, also
known as "heads," capable of direct discharge overboard shall not
be afforded bearthing and/or mooring space at the PREMISES.
3 . The DECLARANT, his sucbessors and assigns shall set forth
these covenants, agreements and declarations in any and all leases
to occupants, tenants and/or lessees of the above-described prop-
erty and shall, by their terms, subject same to the covenants and
restrictions contained herein. Failure of the DECLARANT, his suc
cessors and assigns to so condition the leases shall not invalidate
their automatic subjugation to the covenants and restrictions.
4. All of the covenants and restrictions contained herein
shall be construed to be in addition to and not in derogation or
limitation upon any provisions of local, state and federal laws,
ordinances and/or regulations in effect at the time of execution of
this agreement, or at the time such laws, ordinances and/or regu-. .
lations may thereafter be revised, amended or promulgated.
5. This document is made subject to the provisions of all
laws required by law or by their provisions to be incorporated
herein and they are deemed to be incorporated herein and made a
part hereof, as though fully set forth.
6. The aforementioned restrictive covenants shall be en-
forceable by The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold by in-
junctive relief or by any other remedy in equity or at law. The
failure of said Board to enforce the same shall not be deemed to
affect the validity of this covenant nor to impose any liability
whatsoever upon The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold or
any officer or employee thereof.
7. These covenants and restrictions shall run with the land
and shall be binding upon the DECLARANT, his successors and assigns
and upon all persons or entities claiming under them, and may be
terminated, revoked or amended by the owner of the PREMISES only
with the written consent of The Board of Trustees of the Town of
Southold.
8. If any section, subsection, paragraph, clause, phrase or
provision of these covenants and restrictions shall, by a Court of
competent jurisdiction, be adjudged illegal, unlawful, invalid or
held to be unconstitutional, the same shall not affect the validity
of these covenants as a whole, or any other part or provision here-
of other than the part so adjudged to be illegal, unlawful, invalid
or unconstitutional . '
Fr d Dacimo
STATE OF NEW YORK, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK SS . :
On this 24th day of February, 1990, before me personally ap-
peared FRED DACIMO, to me known and known to me to be the" same in-
dividual described in and who executed the above instrument and
who duly a owledged to me that he executed the same.
Notary Public
fD'IJGt=D JOHtd 130YD 5th
NOTARY PUBLIC,State of New York
No.0376625,Suffolk County
Commission Expires�idSrcA 30, 1951.
SCHEDULE "A"
PARCEL I :
ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land,- -with the buildings
and improvements thereon erected, situate, lying and being at
Orient, Town of Southold, County .of Suffolk and State of New York,
bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a monument at a point of deflection in the easterly
line of Narrow River Road where said line is intersected by the
northerly boundary line of land herein described and land now or
formerly of Edwards;
RUNNING THENCE along said boundary line South 62 degrees 07 min-
utes 00 seconds East 153 .00 feet more or less, to the ordinary high
water mark of Hallock' s Bay as of June, 7.1988;
THENCE along said high water mark of Hallock' s Bay as of June, 1988
southwesterly 350 feet more or less, and then southeasterly 260 feet
more or less to land now or formerly of Samuels;
THENCE along last mantioned land, the following two ( 2) courses and
distances:
1 . South 35 degrees 43 minutes 00 seconds West, 80 feet more
or less;
2 . South 41 degrees 58 minutes 30 seconds West, 221 ,79 feet
to the northeasterly line of Narrow River Road.
THENCE along said northeasterly line of Narrow River Road North 39
degrees 43 minutes 50 seconds West, 183.72 feet to the corner formed
by the intersection of the northeasterly side of Narrow River Road
with the easterly side of Narrow River Road;
THENCE North 21 degrees 48 minutes 40 seconds East along the easter-
ly side of Narrow River Road 465 . 10 feet to the monument at the
point or place of BEGINNING.
PARCEL II :
ALL that piece or parcel of Meadowland at Orient, Town of Southold,
County of Suffolk and State of New York and described as follows :
BEGINNING at a point on the ordinary high water mark of Hallock' s
Bay about 185 feet southwesterly along said high water mark from the
easterly corner of land conveyed by George W. Hallock 'to Edwin H.
King, as previously described herein; from said point of beginning
running southerly, then southeasterly, then southerly, then north-
westerly and then southwesterly about 300 feet to said high water
mark; THENCE northeasterly along said high water mark about 175 feet
to the point of BEGINNING.
District 1000, Section 027.00, Block 02 .00, Lot 004.000
TRUSTEES T SCOTT L. HARRIS
qF
John M. Bredemeyer, III, President yam`• Supervisor
Henry P. Smith, Vice President �rGI1 Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
P.O. Box 1179
John L. Bednoski, Jr.
John B. Tuthill Southold, New York 11971
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone (516) 765-1800
February 26, 1990
TO: Matt Kiernan, Asst. TA
FROM: John Bredemeyer, President
RE: Restrictive Covenant / Narrow River Marina
At -the February 22, 1990 meeting of the Town Trustees, the Board
made a condition of permit issuance to Narrow River Marina,
verse #2 of the attached proposed "C & Rs" .
If this document is otherwise legal and suitable for filing with
the County Clerk, would you kindly notify this office as soon as
possible because incidental dredge operations involve use of
Town property at the launching ramp for which time constraints
were placed by the Town Board.
I believe verse #2 accurately represents the intent of the Board
with respect to this matter. The purpose is to avoid future
operations on the site which could make way for additional
shellfish land closures by NYSDEC/FDA or other regulatory
agencies.
Your prompt review in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
�1 �
I\ y L. , •
DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS
THIS DECLARATION, made the 24th day of February, 1990 by
FRED DACIMO, residing at 31 Oswegatchie Road, Waterford, Connecti-
DIST . cut, 06385, hereinafter referred to as the DECLARANT, the owner of
1000 the premises described in Schedule "A" annexed hereto, hereinafter
SECT . referred to as the PREMISES, who desires to restrict the use and
027.00 enjoyment of said PREMISES and has for such purposes determined to
BLOCK impose on said PREMISES covenants and restrictions and does hereby
02 .00 declare that said PREMISES shall be held and shall be ,conveyed
LOT subject to the following covenants and restrictions:
004.000
1. WHEREAS DECLARANT has made application to the Board of
Trustees of the Town of Southold for a permit to dredge certain
parts of a body of water known as "Narrow River" on and in the vi-
cinity of DECLARANT'S PREMISES ; and
2 . WHEREAS The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold has
agreed to issue said permit only if there be a record covenant
that boats with marine toilets, also known as "heads," capable of
direct discharge overboard shall not be afforded bearthing and/or
mooring space at the PREMISES;
IT IS DECLARED AND COVENANTED BY DECLARANT, his heirs or suc-
cessors and assigns forever, that boats with marine toilets, also
known as "heads," capable of direct discharge overboard shall not
be afforded bearthing and/or mooring space at the PREMISES.
3. The DECLARANT, his successors and assigns shall set forth
these covenants, agreements and declarations in any and all leases
to occupants, tenants and/or lessees of the above-described prop-
erty and shall, by their terms, subject same to the covenants and
restrictions contained herein. Failure of the DECLARANT, his suc-
cessors and assigns to so condition the leases shall not invalidate
their automatic subjugation to the covenants and restrictions.
4. All of the covenants and restrictions contained herein
shall be construed to be in addition to and not in derogation or
limitation upon any provisions of local, state and federal laws,
ordinances and/or regulations in effect at the time of execution of
this agreement, or at the time such laws, ordinances and/or regu-
lations may thereafter be revised, amended or promulgated.
5. This document is made subject to the provisions of all
laws required by law or by their provisions to be incorporated
herein and they are deemed to be incorporated herein and made a
part hereof, as though fully set forth.
6. The aforementioned restrictive covenants shall be en-
forceable by The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold by in-
junctive relief or by any other remedy in equity or at law. The
failure of said Board to enforce the same shall not be deemed to
affect the validity of this covenant nor to impose any liability
whatsoever upon The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold or
any officer or employee thereof.
7. These covenants and restrictions shall run with the land
and shall be binding upon the DECLARANT, his successors and assigns
and upon all persons or entities claiming under them, ' and may be
terminated, revoked or amended by the owner of the PREMISES only
with the written consent of The Board of Trustees of the Town of
Southold.
8. If any section, subsection, paragraph, clause, phrase or
provision of these covenants and restrictions shall, by a Court of
competent jurisdiction, be adjudged illegal, unlawful, invalid or
held to be unconstitutional, the same shall not affect the validity
of these covenants as a whole, .or any other part or provision here-
of other than the part so adjudged to be illegal, unlawful, invalid
or unconstitutional .
Flea cTimo— — — — — — — — —
a
STATE OF NEW YORK, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK SS. :
On this 24th day of February, 1990, before me personally ap-
peared FRED DACIMO, to me known and known to me to be the'` s:ame in-
dividual descri ed in and who executed the above instrument and
who duly ac owledged to me that he executed the same.
Notary Public
fD`:JR,'7;D JOHN f30YD 5th
NoTfM.Y PUBLIC. State of Naw YotK
No.0376625.Sullulk County
Commission Expires Vmz�30, kQ%
f\PQ��
SCHEDULE "A"
PARCEL I :
ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land,- -with the buildings
and improvements thereon erected, situate, lying and being at
Orient, Town of Southold, County .of Suffolk and State of New York,
bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a monument at a point of deflection in the easterly
line of Narrow River Road where said line is intersected by the
northerly boundary line of land herein described and land now or
formerly of Edwards;
RUNNING THENCE along said boundary line South 62 degrees 07 min-
utes 00 seconds East 153.00 feet more or less, to the ordinary high
water mark of Hallock' s Bay as of June, 1988;
THENCE along said high water mark of Hallock' s Bay as of June, 1988
southwesterly 350 feet more or less, and then southeasterly 260 feet
more or less to land now or formerly of Samuels;
THENCE along last mantioned land, the following two ( 2) courses and
distances:
1 . South 35 degrees 43 minutes 00 seconds West, 80 feet more
or less;
2 . South 41 degrees 58 minutes 30 seconds West, 221 ,79 feet
to the northeasterly line of Narrow River Road.
THENCE along said northeasterly line of Narrow River Road North 39
degrees 43 minutes 50 seconds West, 183.72 feet to the corner formed
by the intersection of the northeasterly side of Narrow River Road
with the easterly side of Narrow River Road,-
THENCE North 21 degrees 48 minutes 40 seconds East along the easter-
ly side of Narrow River Road 465 . 10 feet to the monument at the
point or place of BEGINNING.
PARCEL II :
ALL that piece or parcel of Meadowland at Orient, Town of Southold,
County of Suffolk and State of New York and described as follows :
BEGINNING at a point on the ordinary high water mark of Hallock' s
Bay about 185 feet southwesterly along said high water mark from the
easterly corner of land conveyed by George W. Hallock to Edwin H.
King, as previously described herein; from said point of beginning
running southerly, then southeasterly, then southerly, then north-
westerly and then southwesterly about 300 feet to said high water
mark; THENCE northeasterly along said high water mark about 175 feet
to the point of BEGINNING.
District 1000, Section 027.00, Block 02 .00, Lot 004.000
K
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EAURENCE B. SU=ER
COUNSELOR AT LAW
160 WEST END AVENUE NO.20-Ett 4 t`', FEB 2 21990
NEW YORK.'NEW YORK 10029
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TEL(212)362-9672 •.-
February 16, 1990
Hon. John M. Bredemeyer, III
President, Board of Town Trustees
Town Of Southold
Town Hall, Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Re: Application of Peconic Associates, Inc.
Honorable Sir:
I am the owner of 1245 Narrow River Road, Orient, a
property which overlooks Hallock's Bay, and write in
support of the application of Peconic Associates on
behalf of Narrow River Marina.
In order to preserve the recreational character of
Hallock' s Bay it is important that marine craft have
access to the Narrow River Marina, the only facility on
the Bay. Continued silting over the years greatly
aggravated by the storm of October, 1988 threatens to
destroy the viability of this Marina as well as the
nearby Town anchorage. Hallock's Bay is a unique,
sheltered boating and fishing area of the Town and these
uses deserve to be encouraged and preserved. I believe
the referenced application if granted would benefit
residents and visitors alike.
Respectfully yours,
Laurence B. Sutter
LS/mft
I
NOTICE OF HEARINGS
1 ON WETLAND
1 APPLICATIONS 7:16 P.M:In the matter of the
application of En-Consultants,
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIV Inc. on behalf of John i
EN THAT PUBLIC HEAR Lockwood, Old Harbor Road,
INGS WILL BE HELD BY New Sufolk, to remove and hat she is the
THE TOWN TRUSTEES OF replace in same location and -WATCHMAN,
THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, configuration 39 l.f. of
AT THE SOUTHOLD TOWN bulkhead. Dredge up to 20' in uffolk County;
HALL, MAIN ROAD, front to maximum depth of 4' Ia printed copy,
SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK, below MLW.Approximately 10 beler-Watchman
ON THURSDAY,February 22, cy.of spoil will be removed and /
1990, ON THE FOLLOWING used for backfill. . . . . . weeks
APPLICATIONS FOR PER- 7:17 P.M.In the matter of the
MITS UNDER THE.PROVI- application of En-Consultants,
SIONS OF THE WETLAND Inc on behalf of Susan Kwit • • • • • • • • • • • •
ORDINANCE OF THE Old Harbor Road,New Suffolk,
TOWN• to replace within 18" 54 l.f. of
7:10 P.M:In the matter of the . timber bulkhead.Approximate-
application of Robert Kassner ly 5 cy.of backfill will be truck-
on behalf of Nunnakoma Water i ed in.
Association,Inc,Southerly end 7:18 P.M:In the matter of the
of Wampum Way, Southold, application of Proper-T Services
N.Y.to dredge channel approx- on behalf of Sy Stahl, 1425 West
imately 1500 C.Y.of material to Road,Cutchogue,to replace ex- _
be hydraulically removed and isting bulkhead (132'); add 15' 1 — -_..__
pumped to adjacent beach as return at each end: Fill Behind daay of
nourishment. new bulkhead.
7:11 P.M.In the matter of the 7:19 P.M:In the matter of the
application of Stephen Lupow, application of Wayne Monson,
Esq. on behalf of Hay Harbor 600 Smith Drive South,
Club located on Fishers Island, Southold,to construct a private
N.Y. to demolish an existing single dock,ramp and platform
bathhouse and replacement of adjacent to existing bulkhead.
same. 7:20 P.M:In the matter of the
7:12 P.M:In the matter of the application of Peconic
application of John H. Associates, Inc. on behalf of :tiR�AP,A A. S�NNEIDER
Geideman on behalf of Robert Fred Dacimo/Narrow River
S.Koebele to add 4'X 18'to an S.
Marina, Narrow River Road, Y PUBLIC, State of New York existing float,30'X 6,using an
Orient to dredge existing chan-
No.4806846
additional pile nel to 4'in depth(Approximate- I Qua;:fied in Suffolk County
7:13 RM:In the matter of the ly 2100 cy.)at points indicated I !arum: ;:o t Expires ��3/��
application of Joseph Perricone, and dredging marina entrance
2060 Clearview Avenue, silted in from storm and
Southold,to construct a timber highway runoff.
dock consisting of a 4' X 14' 7:21 P.M.In the matter of the
hinged ramp;(2)6'X 12'floats application of Proper-T Services
secured by (4) iron pipes. - on behalf of Rita Martin,
7:14 P.M.In the matter of the Maiden Lane, Mattituck, N.Y.,
application of En-Consultants, to construct a walkway 30'X 41,
Inc on behalf of David Winkler, with steps; hinged ramp 12' X
Beebe Drive,Cutchogue,to con- 4%floating dock IT X 5%install
struct a timber dock consisting two piles to secure floating
of a 4'X 130'fixed elevated(4' dock.
above grade of marsh)walk;4' ALL PERSONS IN-
X 12' ramp; 6' X 20' float TERESTED IN SAID MAT-
secured by (2) 8" diameter TERS SHOULD APPEAR AT
pilings. THE TIME AND PLACE
7:15 P.M.In the matter of the
ABOVE SPECIFIED AND , i � n
application of En-Consultants, WILL BE GIVEN AN OP-
Inc. on behalf of William PORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. -
Wickham, Old Harbor Road,
COMMENTS MAY BE SUB- ,: `
New Suffolk, to remove and MITTED IN WRITING
replace in same location and PRIOR TO THE HEARING. -'
configuration 43 l.f. of Dated: February 5, 1990
bulkhead. Dredge up to 20' in John M. Bredemeyer, III,
front to maximum depth of 4' President
below MLW.Approximately 25 By: Jill Thorp, Clerk I
cy.of spoil will be removed and ; 1X-2/8/90(25
used for backfill.
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TRUSTEES ►� SCOTT L. HARRIS
John M. Bredemeyer, III, President VO • Supervisor
Henry P. Smith, Vice President ��01 `��� Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
P.O. Box 1179
John L. Bednoski, Jr.
John B. Tuthill Southold, New York 11971
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone (516) 765-1800
S.E.Q.R.A.
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
NOTICE OF NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT
APPLICATION NO. 8-1-89-27-2-4
NAME: Narrow River Marina
DATE: February 13, 1990
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation
Law, State Environmental Quality Review and 6NYCRR Part 617,
Section 617 .10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Trustees, as Lead
Agency for the action described below, has determined that the
project will not have a significant effect on the environment.
Please take further notice that this declaration should not be
considered a determination made for any other department or agency
which may also have an application pending for the same or similar
project.
TYPE OF ACTION: Type I
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: Negative Declaration
LOCATION: Narrow River Road, Orient, NY
Tax map No. 1000-27-2-4
REASONS SUPPORTING THIS DETERMINATION:
1. An on site inspection has been conducted by the Board of
Trustees.
2. An environmental assessment, submitted by the applicant and
reviewed and completed by the Board of Trustees, has indicated that
no significant adverse effects to the environment are likely to occur
should the project be implemented as planned.
cc: All Town Departments
N.Y.S.D.E.C.
Army Corps of Engineers
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PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.- .
Environmental Planners & Consultants nzi.,One BootlegAlley P.O.Box672
F. Greenport,New York 11944
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TOWN (OF E;OUTHOLD
Mr. Robert N. Thurber .
Senior Environmental Analyst
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
Region 1 Headquarters
SUNY = Building 40
Stony Brook , L. I .
New York - 11794
Re : NYSDEC Application No . 10-89-0209
Narrow River Marina - Dredging
Orient , New York
Dear Mr. Thurber:
Reference your letter of January 11 , 1990 .
Enclosed are revised copies of Sheet No. 1 including an
enlarged scale of the immediate marina area . Revisions show
the Mean High Water line, Spring high tide, and the
temporary spoil area , which is located fifty (50 ) feet back
from the Spring high tide line.
An Orient community citizen group has held several meetings
and reviewed the project with the applicant and with the
writer. Their recommendations are included on the revised
sheets , which include starting of the channel dredging ten
( 10) feet from the edge of the concrete with a slope of 1 to
4. Also enclosed are recent photographs depicting the
staked temporary spoil area .
Based on informal discussions with the Town Trustees , permit
approval is expected to be received from them within thirty
(30 ) days making it possible for work to commence within the
D. E.C. prescribed window.
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
C-
erlo Wiggin . D. ,M. E.
President
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The UNDERSIGNED have no objection to the proposed
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the followings
,o Mainte,nance dredging of approximately Two Hundred (200)
Yards to the existing and previously constructed
channel between Pate ' s Neck and. Narrow River Road.
o Dredging of approximately One Thousand Six Hundred
( 1 . 600) yards in the vicinty of, the present Marina
slips and the• Town Launching Ramp. the latter which
will enhance public access by Baymen and fisherman to
the Bays .
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Narrow River Marina, which will include the following.:
° Maintenance dredging of approximately two hundred (200) yards
to the existing and previously constructed channel between
Pete' s Neck and Narrow River Road.
° Dredging of approximately one thousand six hundred (1 ,600) yards
in the vicinity of the present marina slips and the Town
launching ramp, the latter which will enhance public access by
baymen and fishermen to the bays.
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The UNDERSIGNED have no objection to the proposed improvements-to the
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° Maintenance dredging of approximately two hundred (200) yards
to the existing and previously constructed channel between
Pete' s Neck and Narrow River Road.
° Dredging of approximately one thousand six hundred (1 ,600) yards
in the vicinity of the present marina slips and the Town
launching ramp, the latter which will enhance public access- by
baymen and fishermen to the bays.
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The UNDERSIGNED have no objection to the proposed improvements to the
Narrow River Marina, which will include the following:
° Maintenance. dredging of approximately two hundred (200) yards
to the existing and previously. constructed channel between
Pete's Neck and Narrow River Road.
° Dredging of.. approximately one thousand six hundred (1 ,600) yards
in the vicinity of the present marina slips and the Town
launching ramp, the latter which will enhance public access by
baymen and fishermen to the bays.
Dredging depth in both instances will not exceed four (4) feet
of water.
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TRUSTEES � Pw+ SCOTT L. HARRIS
John M. Bredemeyer, III, President Supervisor
Henry P. Smith, Vice President ��®1 `A`a® Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
P.O. Box 1179
John L. Bednoski, Jr.
John B. Tuthill Southold, New York 11971
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES Fax (516) 7654823
Telephone (516) 765-1892 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Telephone (516) 765-1800
February 1, 1990
Chris Coustopoulis
NYSDEC
SUNY Bldg 40, Room 219
Stony Br3ook, NY 11794
Narrow River Dredging Project
Dear Ms. Coustopoulis:
At its regular meeting held on January 25, 1990, the Town Board
of Trustees rescinded its previous Conditional Negative
Declaration and declared Lead Agency.
The Board is presently gathering new infornation and anticipates
amendments to the application, which will 'permit us to proceed
with the environmental declaration shortly:,
Very truly your ,
ohn M. Bredemeyer, IIY' ees-
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President, Board of T
cc: Merlon Wiggin
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FRANK A. KUJAWSKI, JR., President W
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ALBERT J. KRUPSKI, JR., Vice-President fir' 'Y w- �! (516) 765-1892
JOHN M. BREDEMEYER III � �
JOHN L. BEDNOSKI, JR. " .:-'i'�ys � �irr✓
HENRY P. SMITH
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11071
January 2, 1990
Merlon E. Wiggin, Pres. f�
Peconic Associates, Inc.
One Bootley Alley, P. O. Box 672 J
Greenport, NY . 11944
RE: Narrow River Marina / Application 8-1-89- 7-2-4
Dear Mr. Wiggin: 6
The Town of Southold Board o, Trustees, as lead agency, has determined
that the proposed revised mai enance dredging project will not have a
significant environmental impa t provided special conditions are met. A
thirty day public comment per' commences with this notice.
The action involves mainten e dredging existing channel to 4' depth
approximately 2100 c.y. an educe drainage area. Property located at
Narrow River Road, Orient, . . . . . .
The conditions are:
1. Dredging accompl' shed rior to April 30, 1990
�2. Staked hay bales o tain spoil ,
)3 . No dredging to exceed 4 ' in depth
J4. ? No dredging in front of public launching ramp--'C4
-j5 . Not to obstruct ROW to prevent parking of vehicles
46 . Channel not to be dredged more than 30 ' wide
-17 . Narrow River Marina shall provide Southold Town with a one million
dollar insurance policy
-/8. All conditions and requirements of other involved agencies be
complied with
49. The entire project shall be completed by December 31, 1990
CC: ✓DEC
,, Army Corps of Engineers
iRuth Oliver
Dept. of State
CAC
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DEC
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1�y Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
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JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823
TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER 12, 1989:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends
their Resolution no. 33, adopted on November 14, 1989, granting
permission to Narrow River Marina, Narrow River Road, Orient, to
temporarily store dredged material on the Town "landing area", to include
these additional conditions: (6) Narrow River Marina shall provide the
Town of Southold with a One Million Dollar liability insurance policy
covering the Town of Southold as an additional insured, (7) all conditions
and requirements of other involved agencies must be complied with, (8)
parking shall not be obstructed on the Town landing area, (9) the entire
project shall be completed by December 31 , 1990.
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Cle k
December 15, 1989
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Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
JUDITH T.TERRY " FAX(516)765-1823
TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 14, 1989:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to Narrow River Marina, Narrow River Road, Orient, to
temporarily store approximately 2,130 yards of dredged material on the
Town "landing area" immediately to the north of the marina, with the
conditions that: (1) if the trees on the Town property are damaged by
salt water runoff they will be replaced; (2) access to the water will not
be blocked; (3) the dredged material, after salt water drainage, will be
trucked at the expense of Narrow River Marina to the Landfill at
Cutchogue; (4) no material shall remain on the site between Memorial Day
1990 and Labor Day 1990; and (5) the Town's "landing .area" where the
dredged material is deposited must be restored by Narrow River Marina
to its original condition.
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Cler
November 16, 1989
cc: Supt. of Hwys. Jacobs
Merlon E. Wiggin, Pres., Peconic Associates, Inc.
Board of Town Trustees
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
Region 1 Headquarters
SUNY, Building 40, Stony Brook, NY 14M 1 1790-2356
(516) 751-7900
Thomas C. Jorling
Commissioner
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Mr. Merlon Wiggin, Pr�es' i
Peconic Associates,
P. 0. Box 672, One Bootleg Alley
Greenport, N. Y. 11944
Re: NYSDEC Application
No. 10-89-0209
Narrow River Marina - Dredging
Dear Mr. Wiggin:
Your submittals of 11/27/89 have been further reviewed and the NYSDEC
has the following comments:
( 1) Sheet 1 of 2 should be revised to show, in the area of the
Town boat launching ramp, the mean high water line, spring
high tide line and the mean low water line.
(2) Sheet 1 of 2 should also be modified so that the seaward
edge of the spoil site (including hay bales ) is a minimum
of 50' landward of the tidal wetlands edge (the high meadow
areas and mean high water on the concrete ramp) .
(3) As per our telephone conversation of 1/ 10/90, please send me
notice and new pictures showing the flagging (painting and/or
stakes) of the seaward edges of the spoil site revised
according to number (2) above.
While a Notice of Complete Application may be issued within the next two
weeks, the above requested information will still be needed for DEC to conclude
its review. The Town permit will need to be issued and sent to me as authori-
zation before DEC can make a final decision.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Very truly yours,
Robert N. Thurber
Senior Environmental Analyst
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cc: F. Dacimo
F. Kujawski
M. Infurna
T. Hart
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PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Environmental Planners & Consultants One Bootley Alley P.O.Box672
Greenport,New York 11944
(516)477-0030
Fax(516)477-0198
January 16 , 1990 ($ "
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Southold Town Board of Trustees
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold , L . I .
New York - 11971
Re : Narrow River Marina
Orient , New York
Permit Application
Gentlemen :
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Enclosed are three (3 ) drawings ( Sheets 1 2 ) showing the
location of the New York State DEC- identified area as closed
to shell fishing .
If we can be of further assistance , please do not hesitate
to contact this office.
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
erlon .- Wiggin , . D. , M. E.
President
Enclosures
cc : Mr. Fred Dacimo
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PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
'Environmental Planners & Consultants One BootleyAlley P.O.Box672
�Gre� port,New York 11944
(516)477-0030
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December 4 , 1989
T0VVN Qa SOUTHOLD
Mr . Frank Kujawski
Southold Town Board of Trustees
Southold Town Hall
Main road
Southold , L . I .
New York - 11971
Re : Application No . 8- 1 -89-27-2-4
Narrow River Marina - Dredging
Orient , New York
Dear Frank :
It has recently come to our attention that concerns for
personal safety should be a consideration in the evaluation
of the merits and timing of subject application .
Because of the worsening condition at the entrance to the
marina , boats (especially small sailboats ) are running
aground within a couple of hundred feet from the dock and
have to wait for a higher tide to get off . In the summer
with the longer days , warmer temperatures , etc . , this
perhaps was not so hazardous . However , in the fall and
spring weather and exposure is a more critical factor.
Wading ashore is a hazard in itself , especially for
children , because of the silt layer which will not support a
persons weight .
Enclosed are pictures of a 17 ft. sailboat aground at the
mariona entrance . You will note the draft as only twenty
( 20 ) inches .
Your review and expeditious action on subject application
will be greatly appreciated . Please advise if we can be of
further assistance.
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC .
Merlon E . Wiggin , Ph . D. , M. E.
President
cc : Edward J . Boyd V , Esq .
Mr . Fred Dacimo
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JOHN L. BEDNOSKI, JR.
HENRY P. SMITH
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
November 24, 1989
Memo to: Trustees
From: Frank A. Kujawski, Jr.
RE: Narrow River Project
You are hereby notified that revised plans for the Narrow River �✓
Project are presently in the Trustees' Office.
Kindly stop at the office and review them.
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PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Environmental Planners & Consultants One Bootley Alley P.O. Box672
Greenport,New York 11944
(516)477-0030
Fax(516)477-0198
November 20 1989
NOV 11989
Mr. Mohabir Persaud `��- _-��"'"�
Coastal Processes - Technical .Specialist
State of New York Department of State
Albany
New York - 12231 -0001
Re : F-89-516
Narrow River Marina
Orient , New York
Dear Mr. Persaud :
Reference is made to your letter of August 7, 1989. Based
on meetings with Southold Town representatives and -
additional dis.cuss-i-ons with the Owner, it has been possible
to reduce the amount of dredging to approximately 2 , 100
Yards . Therefore , please find enclosed the following :
1 . Revised plans that reflect the reduced drainage area .
2 . As requested , a Resolution from the Town of Southold
granting permission to ,temporarily store approximately
2 , 130 Yards of dredged material on the Town Landing
Area . ,
3 . Color photographs of the Marina entrance and other
areas near the project location .
4. The impacts on fish and wildlife have been reviewed
with Chris Smith , Cornell Fish and Aquaculture
Specialist at Cornell University, 39 Sound Avenue ,
Riverhead , New York . Telephone Number : (516 ) 727-
3910. With the reduced quantity of dredging , and
assuming that the work is done within the winter
months , we are of the understanding that the impacts to
the fish and wildlife in this area will have been
appropriately mitigated . Mr. Smith has indicated that
he would be available to discuss this application with
you or with other municipal or regulatory agencies .
Mr. Mohabir Persaud
November 20 , 1989
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If you have any further questions , please do not hesitate to
contact this office.
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Merlon E. Wiggin , P �. ,M. E.
President
Enclosures per Text .
cc : Corp of Engineers
Southold Town Board' of�Trustees
Mr. Fred Dacimo
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JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823
Town CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 14, 1989:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to Narrow River Marina, Narrow River Road, Orient, to
temporarily store approximately 2,130 yards of dredged material on the
Town "landing area" immediately to the north of the marina,. with the
conditions that: (1) if the trees on the Town property are damaged by
salt water runoff they will be replaced; (2) access to the water will not be
blocked; (3) the dredged material, after salt water drainage, will be
trucked at the expense of Narrow River Marina to the Landfill at
Cutchogue; (4) no material shall remain on the site between Memorial Day
1990 and Labor Day 1990; and (5) the Town's "landing area" where the
dredged material is deposited must be restored by Narrow River Marina to
its original condition.
udith T. Terry
Southold Town Cler
November 16, 1989
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NCONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Environmental Planners & Consultants One Bootley Alley P.O. Box672
"- Greenport,New York 11944
(516)477-0030
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Mr. Robert N. Thurber '�r
Senior Environmental Analyst �TO�AJN �.rF SCU12-1.0LD
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
Region 1 Headquarters
SUNY - Building 40
Stony Brook , L. I .
New York - 11794
. Re : NYSDEC. Application No . 10-89-0209
Narrow River Marina - Dredging
Orient , New York
Dear Mr. Thurber :
Reference your letter dated September 20, 1989 .
1 . Enclosed are revised plans that we believe provide the
requested information in the above referenced letter.
2 . The drainage pipe was for the purpose of draining
agricultural land across Narrow River Road . This pipe
is equipped with a tide gate which is presently totally
blocked with silted material . The inlet end is also
blocked with soil material . We reviewed this with the
Southold Town Board apprising them of the fact that
run-off has a potential impact on water quality,
siltation , and so forth . They have indicated that they
will look into this as soon as practical .
From an on-site inspection and observation during heavy
rains , we were of the opinion that very little
siltation originates in the area of the Town Boat
Launching Ramp . We have , however, supplied the Town
Trustees with a copy of your letter for their
evaluation of your suggestions of the installation of
French Drains , retention basins , and so forth in this
particular area .
Frank : This was previously supplied to you by a copy
from D . E. C.
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November 20 , 1989
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3 . The proposed method of dredging will be a clamshell
bucket on a barge , with the material being deposited on
a barge , and the barge moved to the Town Landing Area
where it will be off-loaded into a dump truck and moved
to the spoil site. In the area that is adjacent to the
bulkhead it can be reached by draglines and it is the
intent to use this type of equipment and deposit same
in a dump truck and then be moved to the designated
spoil area . Enclosed are photographs showing the
staked seaward limits of the spoil site .
The Town of Southold Trustees are expected to make a SEQRA
determination based on the revised plans during their next
meeting , at which time they have indicated that they will
advise you of this determination .
sincerely ,
P.ECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
M r on E. Wiggin�h . D. , M. E.
President
cc : Mr. Fred Dacimo
`.,._Mr. Fran k__Ku__jawski, `
Mr . Michael Infurna
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❑ARTICLE 9,TITLE 1,ARTICLE 43 6NYCRR 646(LAKE GEORGE RECREATION ZONE)
ARTICLE 15,TITLE 3(AQUATIC PESTICIDES CONTROL) ❑6NYCRR 327(AQUATIC VEGETATION) ❑6NYCRR 328(FISH) ❑6NYCRR 329(INSECTS)
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E ❑ARTICLE 15,TITLE 15 1:16NYCRR 601 (WATER SUPPLY) ❑6NYCRR 602(LONG ISLAND WELL)
❑ARTICLE 15,TITLE 27 6NYCRR 666(WILD,SCENIC AND RECREATIONAL RIVERS)
❑ARTICLE 24 6NYCRR 662,663(FRESHWATER WETLANDS)
❑ARTICLE 25 6NYCRR 661 (TIDAL WETLANDS) ❑ARTICLE 34 6NYCRR 505(COASTAL EROSION)
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F []SECTION 10(RIVER AND HARBOR ACT OF 1899)for structures and work in navigable waters of the U.S. RICOASTAL CONSISTENCY CERTIFICATION.
E ❑SECTION 404(CLEAN WATER ACT OF 1977)for disposal of dredged or fill material in waters of the U.S.
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❑SECTION 103(MARINE PROTECTION, RESEARCH AND SANCTUARIES ACT)for the transportation of dredged materials for dumping into ocean waters.
1. LIST PREVIOUS PERMIT/APPLICATION NUMBERS AND DATES(If any)
NONE
2. APPLICANT IS A/AN
®Owner ❑Operator ❑Lessee ❑Municipality/Governmental Agency (Check as many as apply)
3. NAME OF APPLICANT(Use Full Name)
FRED DACIMO
MAILING ADDRESS TELEPHONE(Where can be reached during day)
NARROW RIVER ROAD ( 516 323-2660
POST OFFICE STATE ZIP CODE
ORIENT, L. I . N. Y. 11957
4. NAME OF ❑Owner ®Agent/Contact Person (Check one)
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC .
MAILING ADDRESS TELEPHONE(Where can be reached during day)
ONE BOOTLEG ALLEY P. 0. BOX 672 ( 1 477-00-
POST OFFICE STATE ZIP CODE
GREENPORT, L. I .
S. PROJECT/FACILITY LOCATION(Mark location on map,see Number 1a on reverse side)
County S U F F O L K I Town or city S O U T H O L D I village ORI ENT
STREET ADDRESS(If different from applicant)
NARROW RIVER ROAD
POST OFFICE STATE ZIP CODE
ORIENT, L. I .
6. NAME OF STREAM OR BODY OF WATER HALL 0 C K S B A Y
7. HAS WORK BEGUN ON PROJECT? If YES,attach explanation on starting work without permit, includes dates. 8. WILL PROJECT UTILIZE STATE LAND?
ElYes ®No Show work on map and/or drawings. ❑Yes JP No
9. PROPOSED USE: El El
10. PROPOSED STARTING DATE: 11. APPROXIMATE COMPLETION DATE: 12. FEE OF(NYS Permit Only)
IJ Public ElCommercial 10/19 8 9 T H R U 4/19 0 4/19 9 0 S 10 .00 Enclosed
13. PROJECT DESCRIPTION: (e.g.quantity and type of material to be excavated, dredged or used for fill or rip rap, location of disposal 'tes; ty a of
structure to be installed; height of dam; size of impoundent; capacities of proposed water sources;extent of distribution system;etc.) �
MAINTENANCE DREDGING OF EXISTING CHANNEL TO 4 FT. DEPTH (APPROXIMATELY CU. YD.
AT POINTS INDICATED AND DREDGING MARINA ENTRANCE SILTED IN FROM STORM AND HIGHWAY
RUN OFF.
14. WILL THIS PROJECT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FEDERAL, STATE AND/OR LOCAL PERMITS? 11 Yes ❑ No If yes, please list:
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF TRUSTEES U. S. ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS
NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF STATE COASTAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
15. CERTIFICATION:
hereby affirm that under penality of perjury that information provided on this form and all attachments submitted herewith is true to the best of my knowledge
and belief. False statements made herein are punishable as a Class A misdemeanor pursuant to Section 210.45 of the Penal Law.
Further, the applicant accepts full responsibility for all damage, direct or indirect,of whatever nature, and by whomeveiuffered, arising out of the project
described herein and agrees to indemnify and save harmless the State from suits,actions,damages and costs of every name and description resulting from said
project. In addition, Federal Law, 18 U.S.C. Section 1001 provides for a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than five years, or both,
where an applicant knowingly and willfully falsifies,co s,or covers up a material fact;or knowingly makes or uses a false,fictitous or fraudulent statement.
❑I h by authorize the gent named in Numb r 4. ab ve t submit thi plication ory my behalf.
17�y; w1bV.Wa. /yB9 l PRESIDENT
JU14 24 , 1989
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June 30 , 1989
To Whom It May Concern :
This letter authorizes PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC. to act in my
behalf in making applications and securing necessary permits
relative to the maintenance dredging of existing channel
and dredging of marina entrance silted in from storm and
highway run off at NARROW RIVER MARINA, NARROW RIVER ROAD,
ORIENT, NEW YORK.
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highway run off at NARROW RIVER MARINA, NARROW RIVER ROAD,
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• New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
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(516) 751-7900 Thomas C. Jorling
Commissioner
September 20, 1989
Mr. Merlon E. Wiggins
Peconic Associates
P. 0. Box 672
Greenport, NY 11944
Re: NYSDEC ,Application
No. 10-89-0209
Narrow River Marina - Dredging
Dear Mr. Wiggins;
The Department of Environmental Conservation has made a review of your proposal
and has the following comments:
(1) Revised plans do not show the bulkhead location in the northwesterly
basin and the mean low water does not connect to anything on the
applicant's property. Please include these on revisions.
(2) Please describe the drainage pipe and its function. Can .this be
eliminated to provide mitigation for the presumptively
incompatible proposed activity (with respect to the Tidal
Wetlands Regulations) . Eliminating direct drainage may improve
water quality, reduce siltation and reduce .the need for future
dredging.
(3) The latest revised plans show A proposed channel located 100' to
the east of original proposed channel. It appears that .the.
applicant does not have to dredge at this location. Please
take soundings along both sides of .this '40' x 6501 .channei and
20' east of the old channel (along this length) and .show these
soundings on revised plans; unless the channel length is limited
to 300± linear feet.
(4) An explanation and substantiation is needed for -proposing a channel
at the currently shown location and length.
(5) Soundings must be taken and depths .shown in . loat area (northwest
basin) and in the southwest basin, pipe 1:ocation.; .on revised plans.
(6) At dredge area 1 the width of dredge area Still needs to be reduced,
see comment number 3 of my letter to you dated 4/28/89 .(also see
enclosure for the area to delete) .
Merlon E. Wiggins
September 20, 1989
Page 2
(7) Another form of mitigation that can..reduce siltation in the area
would be to place dry wells in the area of the Town boat launching
ramp, or install french drams, retention basins, etc.; for other
such structures please refer to Section 661.'6(a) (8) . These would
lessen the need for dredging, when the direct runoff is reduced.
(8) The revised Sheet Number 1 of 2 no longer Shows the existing channel
(as per the previous plan) connecting the north to the- south part of
the channel (the south part is showing on page 2 of 2) .
(9) In the area of the Town boat launching ramp the mean high water line,
spring high tide line and mean low water line must be shown on
revised plans.
(10) Please submit detailed description of (a) .the method of dredging and
(b) the method of spoil placement.
(11) The outer, seaward limits of the spoil site must be staked (if the
area is asphalt,spray paint the limits) and 'submit photos of staked
(or marked) limits with written notice this has been done.
If you have questions regarding the above eleven comments, please call
George Stadnick at (516) 751-7900.
Also, you will need to submit written permission from the Town of Southold
Trustees to place the spoil on Town property.
Upon receipt of the revised plans (4 copies) and other information/material
requested in (1) thru (11) above; your application will be further reviewed.
Formal processing will remain suspended until the Town of Southold Trustees makes
a final SEQR determination. The decision on permission to use the spoil site
would then probably be made.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Very truly yours,
Robert. N. ..Thurb
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PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Environmental Planners & Consultants One Bootley Alley P.O.Box672
Greenport,New York 11944
(516)477-0030
Fax(516)477-0198
November 20 , 1989
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Mr. Frank Kujawski mT` ''`;U,
Southold Town Board of Trustees
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold , L . I .
New York - 11971
Re : Application No . 8- 1 -89-27-2-4
Narrow River Marina
Orient , New York
Dear Frank :
Enclosed , based on meetings and discussions with members of
the Town Board , is a revised plan and application depicting
the reduced amount of dredging , and the reduced scope of work .
Also attached is a copy of the D. E. C. letter 'of September
20 , 1989 . Would;, you _take particular note of their
suggestion of installation of French Drains or retention
basins in the area of the Town Boat Launching Ramp . Also ,
you will note that they are suspending further processing of
the application until the Town of Southold Trustees makes a
SEQRA determination .
Your early action on this would be appreciated as it is our
expectation that all work will prohibited between June 1.,
1990 and September 30 , 1990 .
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Merlon Wiggin , Ph . D. , M. E.
President
Enclosures
cc : Robert N . Thurber
Michael Infurna
Mr . Fred Dacimo
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_iRANKA. KU AWSKI R., President = ,�t
J , J o s..:. �..,�`,� TELEPHONE
ALBERT J. KRUPSKI, JR., Vice-President `M (516) 765-1892 -
JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, III Oy"t '�''"'� �.
JOHN L. BEDNOSKI, JR.
HENRY P. SMITH
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
APPLICATION FOR WETLANDS PERMIT (CHAPTER 97 CODE OF THE TOWN OF
SOUTHOLD) , AND/OR DOCKS, WHARVES, (CHAPTER 32 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN
OF SOUTHOLD.
INSTRUCTIONS:
A. No operation shall be initiated by the applicant until all
necessary permit(s) have been issued.
B. This application is to be completely filled in by typewriter or
clearly printed in ink and submitted to the Town Trustees Officc
in quadruplicate, accompanied by written permission from the
owner of the property if not the same as the applicant. Page one
of the short assessment form must be completed and signed.
C. No permit shall be issued until all permit fees have been
collected by the Clerk to the Trustees.
D. The application must contain a pilot plan to scale including a
detailed description of the project, and an area map clearly
showing the location of the project.
E. If a permit is being sought for a more sizeable excavation than
the construction of a private single dock or jetty, then this
application must be accompanied by a survey and topographical map
certified by a registered land surveyor or professional
engineer. The horizontal control of the survey shall be based
upon an approval coordinate system. The vertical control for
elevation and soundings shall be based upon U.S. , Coast and
Geodetic Survey and/or U.S. Geological Survey datum. For such
projects, the Trustees may request a more detailed description of
the project site as described in Article II, Section 97-21
Subdivision D.
F. Upon approval of this application, the Clerk to the Trustees
shall issue the appropriate permit(s) to the applicant. Such
permits shall be available for inspection at any time upon
request. Trustee permit numbers must be displayed on all
structures in clearly visible characters 3 inches high.
G. (Amendment of June 25, 1987) All application for dredging must be
accompanied by a licensed survey showing the depth contours. of
the water. This -does not apply to maintenance. dredging projects.
PERMITS THAT MAY BE REQUIRED
NO PERSON SHALL PLACE ANY SPILES, STARES, BUOYS, PIERS, DOCKS, ,
BULKHEADS OR OTHER OBJECTS IN OR ON ANY TOWN REGULATED WETLANDS,
TOWN WATERS OR PUBLIC LANDS UNDER OR ADJACENT TO TOWN WATERS IN
THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NOR SHALL ANY PERSON REMOVE ANY SAND,
GRAVEL OR OTHER MATERIALS FROM LANDS UNDER TOWN WATERS IN THE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING A PERMIT THEREFORE FROM
THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD.
Board of Town Trustees
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971 (516) 765-1932
ALL OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES THAT MAY HAVE JURISDICTION AND
MAY REQUIRE A PERMIT FOR ANY ACTIVITY MENTIONED ABOVE ARE LISTED
BELOW AND MAY BE APPLIED TO SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE TOWN
APPLICATION ARE AS FOLLOWS:
COASTAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
162 Washington Ave.
Albany, New York 12231 ( 518) '474-3642
NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION
S.U.N.Y. - Bldg. 40, Room 219
Stony Brook, New York 11794 (516) 751-7900
U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS
New York District
26 Federal Plaza
New York, New York 10278 ( 212) 264-9054
PLEASE RETURN TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR A DETERMINATION OF
JURISDICTION AS SOME PROJECTS REQUIRE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
APPROVAL OR PERMITS FROM THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE IN ADDITION TO
THE TRUSTEES AS DIRECTED BY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR. THANK YOU.
SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE
TO CONTACT THIS OFFICE AT (516) 765-1932
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FEE SCHEDULE For 1989:
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 97 WETLANDS PERMIT:
$150.00 FILING FEE, (MARINE STRUCTURES WITH MINIMAL IMPACT, i.e.
CATWALK, RAMPS, FLOATING DOCKS) .
FEES FOR BOATS, DOCKS AND WHARVES - CHAPTER 32:
A. FEE FOR MOORING APPLICATION: $25. 00
B. FEE FOR MOORING RENEWAL BASED UPON LENGTH OF VESSEL:
LESS THAN 20 FEET - $1.00 PER FOOT
GREATER THAN 20 FEET - $2. 00 PER FOOT
C. FEE FOR DOCKS AT THE RATE OF $1. 50 PER SQUARE FOOT OF DOCK
SURFACE OFFSHORE FROM THE ORDINARY HIGH WATER MARK, PLUS $25. 00
PER PILING (OR POST) USED TO SECURE A STRUCTURE OR BOAT OFFSHORE
FROM MEAN HIGH WATER MARK.
D. FEE FOR BULKHEAD BELOW MHWM AT THE RATE OF $6. 00 PER LINEAL
FOOT.
E. FEE FOR DREDGING/FILLING AT THE RATE OF $6.00 PER CUBIC YARD
BASED UPON THE ESTIMATED MAXIMUM COMPUTED IN THE APPLICATION.
F. FEE FOR WAIVER OR AMENDMENT - $35.00 INCLUDING INSPECTIONS.
G. GENERAL INSPECTION FOR OTHER DETERMINATION - $35. 00
H. GRANDFATHER APPLICATION FEE FOR STRUCTURES CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO
1965 AND WITHOUT PERMIT NUMBERS - $35.00.
The following Resolution was adopted during the Board of
Trustees meeting held on June 25, 1987 and is forwarded to you for
your information:
RESOLVED that all moorings, docks, onshore/offshore stakes, any
activity to tie up a boat in the water will prohibit the use of
bottom paint containing TBT unless the boat is constructed of
aluminum or has a motor outdrive.
This Resolution was adopted by unanimous vote of the Board.
�� :' e' ;•E;: TELEPHONE
` (516) 765-1892
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BOARD OF TORN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
APPLICATION IS HEREBY MADE TO THE TOWN TRUSTEES, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, SUFFOLK
COUNTY, NEW YORK, FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT PURSUANT TO THE LAWS,
ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING THE COASTAL AND INTERIOR WETLANDS,
FLOOD PLAINS AND DRAINAGE AREAS OF SOUTHOLD TOWN, AND THE ISSUANCE OF
PERMITS PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 32 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD.
n/o,/
APPLICATION NO. DATE JULY 24, 1989
FRED DACIMO - PRESIDENT
APPLICANT'S NAME: NARROW RIVER MARINA TEL. NO. (516) 323-2660
MAILING ADDRESS: NARROW RIVER ROAD, ORIENT, L. I. , NEW YORK'.- 11957
AGENT: PECONIC ASSOCIATES, Inc. TEL NO. (516) 477-0030
AGENT ADDRESS: ONE BOOTLEG ALLEY P. 0. BOX 672, GREENPORT, L. I. , NEW YORK - 11944
PERMIT REQUESTED TO: MAINTENANCE DREDGING OF EXISTING CHANNEL TO 4 FT. DEPTH.
lt00
(APPROXIMATELY - Cu. YD )AT POINTS INDICATED AND DREDGING MARINA ENTRANCE
SILTED IN FROM STORM AND HIGHWAY RUN- OFF.
LOCATION OF PROPERTY FOR REQUESTED PERMIT: - NARROW RIVER ROAD, ORIENT,
NEW YORK.
HAMLET: - ORIENT
TAX MAP NO: 1000- 27-2-4
CREEK, BAY OR HARBOR FRONTING PROPERTY: HALLOCKS BAY
SIZE OF PROPOSED WORK: SEE PLAN
LENGTH:
WIDTH:
• APP. Pao2.
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` YDS.1 TO BE EXCAVATED: .4.150± YDS. TO BE FILLED: N/A
MANNER IN WHICH MATERIAL WILL BE REMOVED OR DEPOSITED: CRANE WITH
CLAMSHELL BUCKET ON BARGE.
WIDTH OF CANAL, CREEK OR BAY FRONTING PROPERTY: VARIOUS - SEE PLAN.
DEPTH AT LOW TIDE: VARIES AVER. RISE IN TIDE: 2 FT.
DISTANCE TO NEAREST CHANNEL: N/A
DISTANCE PROJECT EXTENDS BEYOND SIMILAR PROJECTS IN AREA: N/A
R-40, R-80, AND R-200
AREA ZONING: RESIDENTIAL, LOW IS PROJECT FOR PRIVATE OR BUS. USE: BUSINESS
DENSITY
INTENDED USE OF PROPERTY: MARINA
DESCRIBE KNOWN PRIOR OPERATIONS CONDUCTED ON PREMISES: FROM 1874 TO 1933 WAS
AN AGRICULTURAL SHIPPING PORT ON ADJACENT PROPERTY FOR WHICH CHANNEL WAS CONSTRUCTED.
GARBAGE DUMP FROM APPROX. 1900 TO 1959. MARINA FROM 1959 TO PRESENT<
HAS ANY PRIOR LICENSE OR PERMIT BEEN ISSUED TO ERECT STRUCTURES, DREDGE,
OR DEPOSIT FILL ON SAID PREMISES: NO
HAS ANY LICENSE OR PERMIT EVER BEEN REVOKED OR SUSPENDED BY A GOVERNMENTAL
AGENCY: NO
DESCRIBE FULLY THE REHABILITATION OF PROPERTY:
N/A
DESCRIBE PROPOSED CONDITION OF PROPERTY AFTER WORK IS COMPLETED. INCLUDE
AN ADDITIONAL SURVEY OF PROPERTY SITE IF NECESSARY:
SEE PLAN
ARE THERE ANY COVENANTS OR RESTRICTIONS IN YOUR DEED WHICH WOULD PROHIBIT
THIS PROJECT: NO
WRITTEN OF OWNER IF NOT THE SAME AS APPLICANT:
i
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK )
STATE OF NEW YORK )
MERLON E. WIGGIN BEING DULY SWORN DEPOSES
AND SAYS THAT HE IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE ABOVE DESCRIBED PERMITS, AND
THAT ALL STATEMENTS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE TRUE TO THE BEST OF HIS KNOWLEDGE
AND BELIEF, AND THAT WORK WILL BE DONE IN THE MANNER SET FORTH IN THIS
APPLICATION AND AS MAY BE APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF
SOUTHOLD. THE APPLICANT AGREES TO HOLD THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD AND THE TOWN
TRUSTEES HARMLESS AND FREE FROM ANY AND ALL DAMAGES AND CLAIMS ARISING
UNDER OR BY VIRTUE OF SAID PERMIT, IF GRANTED.
IN COMPLETING THIS APPLICATION, I HEREBY AUTHORIZE THE TRUSTEES, THEIR
AGENT OR REPRESENTATIVE, TO ENTER ONTO MY PROPERTY TO INSPECT THE PREMISES
IN CONJUNCTION WITH REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION.
Signature of Appliliff
SWORN TO BEFORE ME THIS DAY OF , 19
T Y PUBLIC
JOAN A. JAB
NOTARY PUBLIC, State of O`•�
No. 4702900
Qualified in Suffolk CbM* .
�'rmission Expires March I& jtV1
EXAMINED BY
APPROVED
DISAPPROVED
CONDITIONS (If any)
SIGNATURE OF CHAIRMAN
COMPUTATION OF FEES
Approved 2/27/85
14.16-2 (2187)-7c • •
617.21
SEC
Appendix A
' State Environmental Quality Review
FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
Purpose: The full EAF is designed to help applicants and agencies determine, in an orderly manner, whether a proje(
or action may be significant. The question of whether an action may be significant is not always easy to answer. Frequen
ly, there are aspects of a project that are subjective or unmeasureable. It is also understood that those who determir
significance may have little or no formal knowledge of the environment or may be technically expert in environment;
analysis. In addition,many who have knowledge in one particular area may not be aware of the broader concerns affectin
the question of significance.
The full EAF is intended to provide a method whereby applicants and agencies can be assured that the determinatio
process has been orderly, comprehensive in nature,yet flexible to allow introduction of information to fit a project or actior
Full EAF Components: The full EAF is comprised of three parts:
Part 1: Provides objective data and information about a given project and its site. By identifying basic projec
data, it assists a reviewer in the analysis that takes place in Parts 2 and 3.
Part 2: Focuses on identifying the range of possible impacts that may occur from a project or action. It provide
guidance as to whether an impact is likely to be considered small to moderate or whether it is a potentially
large impact. The form also identifies whether an impact can be mitigatedor reduced.
Part 3: If any impact in Part 2 is identified as potentially-large, then Part 3 is used4o// evaluate whether or not tht
impact is actually important.
DETERMINATION OF SIGNIFICANCE—Type 1 and Unlisted Actions
Identify the Portions of EAF completed for this project: ❑ Part 1 ❑ Part 2 * OPart 3
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF(Parts 1 and 2 and 3 if appropriate), and any other supporting
information, and considering both the magitude and importance of each impact, it is reasonably determined by the
lead agency that.
O A. The project will not result in any large and important impacts) and, therefore, is one which will not
have a significant impact on the environment, therefore a negative declaration will be prepared.
❑ B. Although the project could have a significant effect on the environment, there will not be a significant
effect for this Unlisted Action because the mitigation measures described in PART 3 have been required,
therefore a CONDITIONED negative declaration will be prepared.'
O C. The project may result in one or more large and important impacts that may have a significant impact
on the environment, therefore a positive declaration will be prepared.
•A Conditioned Negative Declaration is only valid for Unlisted Actions
Name of Action
Name of Lead Agency '
Print or type Name of Responsible Officer in Lead Agency Title of Responsible Officer
Signature of Responsible Officer in Lead Agency Signature of Preparer(If differenI from responsible officer)
Date
1
a: PART 1—PROJECT INFORMATION * a
Prepared by Project Sponsor .
r_ NOTICE: This document is designed to assist in determining whether the action proposed may have a significant
on the environment. Please complete the entire form, Parts A through E. Answers to these questions will be consi
as part of the application for approval and may be subject to further verification and public review. Provide any addi:
information you believe will be needed to complete Parts 2 and 3.
It is expected that completion of the full EAF will be dependent on information currently available and will not in
new studies, research or investigation. If information requiring such additional work is unavailable,so indicate and sF
each instance.
NAME OF ACTION
LOCATION OF ACTION(Include Streit Address,Municipality and County)
NARROW RIVER ROAD, ORIENT, NEW YORK
NAME OF APPLICANT/SPONSOR
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC. BUSINESS TELEPHONE
ADDRESS 916 )477-0010
ONE BOOTLEG ALLEY - P. 0. BOX 672
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GREENPORT, L. I. , STATE ZIP CODE
NAME OF OWNER(If different)
FRED DACIMO I BUSINESS TELEPHONE
ADDRESS 11 (516) 323-2660
rMAINTENANCE
ITYIPO
ORIENT, L. I. STATE ZIP CODE
N.Y. 119O7
ESCRIPTION OF ACTION
DREDGING OF EXISTING CHANNEL TO 4 FT. DEPTH (APPROXIMATELY � J�. CU. YD.)
T POINTS INDICATED AND DREDGING MARINA ENTRANCE SILTED FROM STORM AND HIGHWAY
I RUN OFF.
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Please Complete Each Question—Indicate N.A. if not applicable
A. Site Description
Physical setting of overall project, both developed and undeveloped areas.
1. Present land use: OUrban ❑Industrial rLICommercial OResidential (suburban) ORural (non-fz
❑Forest ❑Agriculture bother PUBLIC
2. Total acreage of project area: SEE PLAN acres.
APPROXIMATE ACREAGE PRESENTLY AFTER SOMPLETIOh
Meadow or Brushland (Non-agricultural) acres
Forested acre
0 acres 0
Agricultural (Includes orchards, cropland, 0 acre
P pasture, etc.) acres 0 '
Wetland (Freshwater or tidal as per Articles 24, 25 of ECL) 0 acre
acres Water Surface Area SEE PLAN acres SEE PLAN acre
Unvegetated (Rock, earth or fill) 0 acre
acres 0 acre
Roads, buildings and other paved surfaces 0 0
JClei
Other (Indicate type) 0 acres 0 acre:
3. What is predominant soil type(s) on project site? __ SAND AND SILT acre.-
a. Soil drainage: ❑`Nell drained % of site O,`toclerately well drained o•
N/A CPoorly drained -__. o. of site .o of site
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b. If any agricultural land is involved, how many acres of soil are classified within soil group 1 through 4 of the t%
Land Classification System?N/__A__ acres. (See 1 NYCRR 370). -
4. Are there bedrock outcroppings on project site? ❑Yes ®No
a. What is depth to bedrock? (in feet) .
2
S. -Approximate percoge of proposed project site with slopes: PO-10% _0 010-15%
M S
N/A 015% or greater
,. 6. Is project substantially contiguous to, or contain a building, site, or district, listed on the"State or the Nation.
Registers of Historic Places? OYes MNo f
7. Is project substantially contiguous to a site listed on the Resister of National Natural Landmarks? ❑Yes bN
8. What is the depth of the water table? _N/A (in feet)
9. Is site located over a primary, principal, or sole source aquifer? OYes 93No
10. Do hunting, fishing or shell fishing opportunities presently exist in the project area? 93Yes ONo
11. Does project site contain any species of plant or animal life that is identified as threatened or endangerec.
OYes INNo According to
Identify each species
.` 12. Are there any unique or unusual land forms on the project site? (i.e., cliffs, dunes, other geological formations
OYes INNo Describe
13. Is the project site presently used by the community Qr o h d as an open space or recreation area
(MYes ONo If yes, explain MARINA - t�0ff AREA.
14. Does the present site include scenic views known to be important to the community?
OYes ONo
15. Streams within or contiguous to project area: N/A
a. Name of Stream and name of River to which it is tributary
16. Lakes, ponds, wetland areas within or contiguous to project area:
a. Name HALLOCKS BAY b. Size (In acres) APPROX. 650 ACRES
17. Is the site served by existing public utilities? It Yes ONo
a) If Yes, does sufficient capacity exist to allow connection? MYes ONo
b) If Yes, will improvements be necessary to allow connection? OYes CNo
18. Is the site located in an agricultural district certified pursuant to Agriculture and Markets Law, Article 25-AA
Section 303 and 304? ❑Yes ®No
19. Is the site located in or substantially contiguous to a Critical Environmental Area designated pursuant to Article 8
of the ECL, and 6 NYCRR 617? OYe's ONo SEE NOTE.
20. Has the site ever been used for the disposal of solid or hazardous wastes? Oyes ®No
NOTE: HALLOCKS BAY CONTAINS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF VALUABLE WETLANDS WHICH HAS
BEEN DESIGNATED BY THE STATE FOR PRESERVATION.
B. Project Description
1. Physical dimensions and scale of project (fill in dimensions as appropriate) N/A - MAINTENANCE DREDGING
a. Total contiguous acreage owned or controlled by project sponsor acres. SEE PLAN
b. Project acreage to be developed: acres initially; acres ultimately.C. Project acreage to remain undeve!oped acres.
d. Length of project, in miles: (If appropriate)
e. If the project is an expansion, indicate percent of expansion proposed •��;
f. Number of off-street parkin; spaces existing ; proposed
g. Maximum vehicular trips generated per hour (upon completion of project)?
h. If residential Number and type of housing; units:
Initially One Family Two Family Multiple Family - Condominium
Ultimately
i. Dimensions (in tees) of largest proposed structure height; width; y length.
j. Linear feet or frontage along a public thoroughfare project will.occupy is? ft.
3
2. How much natuOmaterial (i.e., rock, earth, etc.) will be removed from the site? 050± Qbf /cub's yards
3. Will disturbed areas be reclaimed? Oyes ®No ON/A
a. If yes, for what intend.-,: purpose is the site being reclaimed?
b. Will topsoil be stockpiled for reclamation? Dyes ❑No
C. Will upper subsoil be stockpiled for reclamation? Oyes ❑No
4. How many acres of vegetation (trees, shrubs, ground covers) will be removed from site? 0 acres.
S. Will any mature forest (over 100 years old) or other locally-important vegetation be removed by this project?
OYes WNo ,
6. If single phase project: Anticipated period of construction months, (including demolition).
7. If multi-phased: N/A
a. Total number of phases anticipated (number).
b. Anticipated date of commencement phase 1 month year, (including demolition).
c. Approximate completion date of final phase month __year.
d. Is phase 1 functionally dependent on subsequent phases? OYes ❑No
B. Will blasting occur during construction? OYes MNo
9. Number of jobs generated: during construction d ; after project is complete 0
10. Number of jobs eliminated by this project NONE
11. Will project require relocation of any projects or facilities? Dyes IMNo If yes, explain
12. Is surface liquid waste disposal involved? OYes nNo'
a. If yes, indicate type of waste (sewage, industrial,,etc.) and amount
b. Name of water body into which effluent will be discharged
13. Is subsurface liquid waste disposal involved? OYes VNo Type ,
14. Will surface area of an existing water body increase or decrease by proposal? OYes ®No
Explain
15. Is project or any portion of project located in a 100 year flood plain? Dyes No -
16. Will the project generate solid waste? Oyes ®No
a. If yes, what is the amount per month tons
b. If yes, will an existing solid waste facility be used? Dyes ❑No
c. If yes, give name ; location
d. Will any wastes not go into a sewage disposal system or into a sanitary landfill? OYes ONo
e. If Yes, explain
17. Will the project involve the disposal of solid waste? Oyes MNo
a. If yes, what is the anticipated rate of disposal? tons/month.
b. If yes, what is the anticipated site life? years. -
18. Will project use herbicides or pesticides? OYes mNo
19. Will project routinely produce odors (more than one hour per day)? Oyes Mo '
20. Will project produce operating noise exceeding the local ambient noise levels? Oyes MNo
21. Will project result in an increase in energy use? Oyes ®No
If yes , indicate type(s) -
22: If water supply is from wells, indicate pumping capacity N/A gallons/minute. '
23. Total anticipated water usage per day N/A gallons/day.
24. Does project involve Local, State or Federal funding? OYes MNo
If Yes, explain '
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�., „25.'Approvals Regld: Submittal
Type Date
1 City, Town, Village.Board MYes ONO SOUTHOLD BOARD OF TRUSTEES
City, Town, Village Planning Board OYes X]No
City, Town Zoning Board OYes E]NO
City, County Health Department OYes K]No.
Other Local Agencies OYes ®No
Other Regional Agencies OYes ®No
State Agencies WYes ONO NFW YORK STATF D F r
Federal Agencies 16Yes ONO CORP OF ENGINEERS
C. Zoning and Planning Information
1. Does proposed action involve a planning or zoning decision? OYes QINo _
If Yes, indicate decision required:
Ozoning amendment Ozoning variance Ospecial use permit ❑subdivision ❑site plan
Onew/revision of master plan Oresource management plan Oother
2. What is the zoning classification(s)of the site? MARINE I
3: What is the maximum potential development of the site if developed as permitted by the present zoning?
N/A
4. What is the proposed zoning of the site? N/A
• 5. What is the maximum potential development of the site if developed as permitted by the proposed zoning?
NA
6. Is the proposed action consistent with the recommended uses in"adopted local land use plans? 91Yes O
7. What are the predominant land use(s) and zoning classifications within a 'X mile radius of proposed action?
RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY C
8. Is the proposed action compatible with adjoining/surrounding land uses within a '/4 mile? ®Yes ❑t
9. If the proposed action is the subdivision of land, how many lots are proposed? _ N/A
a. What is the minimum lot size proposed?
10. Will proposed action require any authorizations) for the formation of sewer or water districts? OYes ®�
11. Will the proposed action create a demand for any community provided services (recreation, education, polic
fire protection)? OYes ®No
a. If yes, is existing capacity sufficient to handle projected demand? OYes ONO
12. Will the proposed action result in the generaiion.of traffic significantly above present levels? OYes ER
a. If yes, is the existing road network adequate to handle the additional traffic? OYes ONO
D. Informational Details
Attach any additional information as may he needed to clarify your project. If there are or may be any adver
impacts associated with your proposal, please discuss such impacts and the measures which you propose to mitigate
avoid them.
E. Verification
1 certify that the information provided above is true to the best of my knowledge.
Applicant; ons r Name Date JULY 24, 1989
Signature % ` Title PRESIDENT -
If the action is in the Coastal Area, an nu are a state agency, complete the Coastal Assessment Form before proceedin
with this assessment.
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FRANK A. KU AWSKI, -R., President " �fi'c'�'
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ALBERT J. KRUPSKI, JR., Vice-President `- R iy
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JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, III 4. �� `, �` .t (516) 765-1892
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HENRY P. SMITH
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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TO: Judith T. Terry, Town Clerk
FROM: Frank A. Kujawski, Jr. , President
Board of Trustees
RE: Proposed maintenance dredging
Narrow River Marina, Orient.
DATE: October 2, 1989
The Board of Trustees have concerns on the size of the above
referenced project but have no reservations on approval to temporarily
store spoil on Town property.
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� Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
p Off- P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New Yorlc 11971
JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823
TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
September 27, 1989
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To: Frank A. Kujawski, Jr. , President
Board of Southold Town Trustees
From: Judith T. Terry, Town Clerk ~' ,
Re: Proposed Maintenance Dredging
Narrow River Marina, Orient
May I have your comments with respect to the attached letter from Merlon
Wiggin. I am placing it on the Town Board's October 10th agenda for
discussion, possible resolution, and I know they would like the Trustees'
comments. Thank you.
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New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
Region 1 Headquarters
SUNY, Building 40, Stony Brook, NY 11794
(516) 751-7900 Thomas C. Jorling
Commissioner
September 20, 1989I
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Mr. Merlon E. Wiggins ' 9
Peconic Associates f SFp 7 199 ' !
P. 0. Box 672
Greenport, NY 11944
Re: NYSDEC Application
No. 10-8970209
Narrow River Marina - Dredging
Dear Mr. Wiggins;
The Department of Environmental Conservation has made a review of your proposal
and has the following comments:
(1) Revised plans do not show the bulkhead location .in the northwesterly
basin and the mean low water does not connect to anything on the
applicant's property. Please include .these on revisions.
(2) Please describe the drainage pipe .and its function. Can this be
eliminated to provide mitigation for the presumptively
incompatible proposed activity (with respect to the Tidal
Wetlands Regulations) . Eliminating direct drainage may improve
water quality, reduce siltation and reduce the need for future
dredging.
(3) The latest revised plans show a proposed channel located 100' to
.the east of original proposed channel. It appears that the,
applicant does not have to dredge at this location. Please
take soundings along both sides of this 40' x 6501 .channel and
20' east of the. old channel (along this length) and show these
soundings on revised plans; unless the channel length is limited
to 300± linear feet.
(4) An explanation and substantiation is needed for proposing a .channel
at the currently shown location and :Length.
(5) Soundings must be taken and depths shown in float area (northwest
basin) and in the southwest basin, pipe location.; on revised plans.
(6) At dredge area 1 the width of dredge area still needs to be reduced,
see comment number 3 of my letter to you dated 4/28/89 (also see
enclosure for the area to delete) .
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STATE OF NEW YORK
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
ALBANY, N.Y. 12231-0001 _-
GAIL S.SHAFFER
SECRETARY OF STATE
August 7, 1989
Mr. Merlon E. Wiggin
President
Peconic Association, Inc.
One Bootleg Alley
Greenport, NY 11944
Re: F-89-516
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York
District Permit Application
Narrow River Marina
Town of Southold
Request for Additional Information
Dear Mr. Wiggin:
Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.58, the following data and information is necessary
to enable the Department of State.to adequately assess the coastal zone effects
of this proposed project.
1. A letter from the Town of-Southold indicating that you have their
permission to temporarily store_ the 4,150 C.Y. dredged spoil in their
parking lot is required before review of this application can begin,.
2. Please submit color photographs of the marina entrance area and other
areas near this project location that can assist us in this review.
3. What impacts would this activity have on the fish and wildlife
habitats in the area? I refer to the Bird Sanctuary, and the Long
Beach Bay Habitat.
Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.60(a) , the review of your consistency certification
will begin after we receive and determine that the necessary data and
information is adequate to assess coastal zone effects.
Any additional information which you believe will facilitate our
consistency review of this project would be appreciated.
y
A copy of this letter has been sent to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
Please call me at (518) 474-3642 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
'(o abir Persaud
Coastal Processes'
Technical Srecial.ist
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cc: COE/NY District -Mike Infurna
NYS DEC/Region I - Christine Costopoulos
Town of Southold Trustees - Frank Kujawski, Jr.
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Environmental Planners & Consultants One Bootley Alley P.O.Box672
Greenport,New York 11944
(516)477-0030
Fax(516)477-0198
September 19, 1989
Mr. Chris Smith
Cornell Fish and Aquaculture Specialist
Cornell University
39 Sound Avenue
Riverhead , L. I .
New York - 11901
Re : Narrow - River Marina
Orient , New York
Dear Mr. Smith : Proposed Maintenance Dredging
. In accordance with our telephone conversation , enclosed is
the plan for the proposed maintenance dredging previously
submitted to the New York State D. E. C. and the Corp of
Engineers .
Depending on approval date, it is planned to do the dredging
only during the winter months and place the dredged material
(4 , 150 Cubic Yards ) , which is estimated at eighty percent
(80%) silt and twenty percent (20%) sand , in the Town of
Southold boat landing parking lot and surround it with hay
bales and allow it to drain .
Could you please provide your professional opinion as to any
potential impact on the scallop population and
transplanting , plus any other action that should be taken to
mitigate this maintenance dredging .
If you have any questions , please do not hesitate to contact
this office .
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
qMerl�o�nE!. Tin , Ph . D. ,M. E.
President
Enclosures
cc : Mr. Fred Dacimo
PECONIC ASSOCIATES INC. ...
Environmental Planners & Consultants OneBootleyAlley P.O.Box672
r . Greenport,New York 11944
SE'° 'J 0 030
Fax(51)477-0 98
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September 19 , 1989
Southold Town Board
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold , L. I .
New York - 11971
Re : Narrow River Marina
Orient , New York
Proposed Maintenance Dredging
Dear Members of the Town Board :
Reference is made to the enclosed request from the State of
New York Department of State . At an on-site meeting in May
with representatives of the Corp of Engineers , New York
State D. E. C . , and Southold Town Trustees , it was suggested
and mutually agreed that the dredge material be temporarily
stored in the parking area of the Town of Southold boat
landing area , surrounded by hay bales , and allowed to drain .
Would you please review, consider , and hopefully approve the
same.
If you have any questions , please do not hesitate to contact
this office.
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Mer on E. Wiggin , P . ,M. E.
President
Enclosure
cc : Southold Town Board of Trustees
Mr. Fred Dacimo
s File
Merlon E. Wiggins
September 20, 1989
Page 2
(7) Another form of mitigation that can,.reduce siltation .in the. area
would be to place dry wells in the area of the Town boat launching
ramp, or install french drains, retention basins, etc. ; for other
such structures please refer to Section 661.6(a) (8) . These would
lessen the need for dredging, when the direct runoff is reduced.
(8) The revised Sheet Number 1 of 2 no 'longer shows the existing channel
(as per the previous plan) connecting the north to the south -part of
the channel (the south part is showing on page 2 of 2) .
(9) In the area of the Town boat launching ramp the mean high water line,
spring high tide line and mean low water line must be shown on
revised plans.
(10) Please submit detailed description of (a) the method of dredging and
(b) the method of spoil placement.
(11) The outer, seaward limits of the spoil site must be staked (if the
area is asphalt,spray paint the limits) and submit photos of staked
(or marked) limits with written notice this has been done.
If you have questions regarding the above .eleven comments, please call
George Stadnick at (516) 751-790.0.
Also, you will need to submit written permission from the Town of Southold
Trustees to place the spoil on Town property.
Upon receipt of the revised plans (4 copies) and other information/material
requested in (1) thru (11) above, -your application will be further reviewed.
Formal processing will remain suspended until the Town of Southold Trustees makes
a final SEQR determination. The decision -on permission to use the spoil site
would then probably be made.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Very truly yours,
I�CY Robert N. ..Thurber
Senior Environmental Analyst
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cc: F. Dacino
F. Kujawski (w/inc.)
M. Infurna "
T. Hart "
G. Stadnick
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FRANK A. KUJAWSKI, JR., President TELEPHONE
ALBERT J. KRUPSKI, JR., Vice-President (516) 765-1892
JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, III
JOHN L. BEDNOSKI, JR. 'Ol
HENRY P. SMITH
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
September 5, 1989
Robert' N. Thurber
New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Bldg. 40, SUNY - Room 219
Stony Brook, New York 11794
Re: Narrow River Marina, Orient, N.Y. 10-89-0209
Dear Mr. Thurber:
Transmitted herewith is Wetland Application No. 8-1-89-27-2-4
submitted by Peconic Associates on behalf of Narrow River Marina.
We would like to coordinate with you in our role as Lead Agency
regarding this application.
Very truly yours,
Frank A. Kujawski, Jr.
President
Board of Town Trustees
FAK:jas
Enclosures
CC: Com. Thomas Jorling, N.Y.S.D.E.C. , Albany
Building. Dept.
C.A.C.
Planning Board
Mike Infurna, COE/NY District
Thomas Hart, N.Y. Dept. of State, Coastal Management Div.
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STATE OF NEW YORK
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
ALBANY, N.Y. 1 223 1-0001
GAIL S.SHAFFER
SECRETARY OF STATE
August 29, 1989
.Mr. Peter S. Burke
Civil Engineer III
New York State Department
of Transportation
Hauppauge, NY 11788
6Re: F-89-547
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York
District Permit Application
New York State Department of
Transportation - Dam Pond Brldac
Town of Southold
Request for Additional Information
Dear Mr. Burke:
Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.58, the following data and information is necessary
to enable the Department of State to adequately assess the coastal zone effects
of this proposed project.
1. Please send a copy of. the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers application to
this office so that we can begin review of this project.
2. Please also send a set of color photographs of the structure to be
replaced, and its immediate surroundings. Indicate any tidal wetlands
that are present.
3. Please send a copy of the plans for the new structure.
Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.60(a), the review of your consistency certification
will begin after we receive and determine that the necessary data and
information is adequate to assess coastal zone effects.
Any additional information which you believe will facilitate our
consistency review of this project would be appreciated.
Mr. Peter S. Burke
August 29, 1989
Page 2
A copy of this letter has been sent to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
Please call me at (518) 474-3642 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Mohabir Persaud
Coastal Processes
Technical Specialist
MP:ak
cc: COE/NY District - Michael Infurna
NYS DEC/Region I - Christine Costopoulos
Town of Southold - Frank Kujawski
FRANK A KUJAWSKI, JR : President TELEPHONE
ALBERT J. KRUPSKI, JR., Vice-President (516) 765-1892
JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, III • O�
JOHN L. BEDNOSKI, JR.
HENRY P. SMITH o1
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
August 25, 1989
Robert N. Thurber
New York State Dept. of Environmental Conservation
Bldg. 40, SUNY - Room 219
Stony Brook, New York 11794
Re: Narrow River Marina, Orient, N.Y. 10-89-0209
Dear Mr. Thurber:
Transmitted herewith is Wetland Application No. 8-1-89-27-2-4
submitted by Peconic Associates on behalf of Narrow River Marina.
We would like to coordinate with you in our role as Lead Agency
regarding this application.
Very truly yours,
Frank A. Kujawski, Jr. �
President
Board of Town Trustees
FAK: j as
Enclosures
.cc: Com. Thomas Jorling, N.Y.S.D.E..C. , Albany
Building Dept.
C.A.C.
Planning Board
Mike Infurna, COE/NY District
Thomas Hart, N.Y. Dept. of State, Coastal Management Div.
FRANK A. KUJAWSKI, JR., President a TELEPHONE
ALBERT J. KRUPSKI, JR., Vice-President ' ter" a� (516) 765-1892
JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, III
JOHN L. BEDNOSKI, JR. r4 .r
HENRY P. SMITHS"=
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
August 24, 1989
MINUTES
PRESENT WERE: Trustee Frank A. Kujawski, Jr. , President
Trustee Albert J. Krupski, Jr
Trustee John m. Bredemeyer, III
Trustee Henry P. Smith
Clerk Joan Schneider
Trustee John Bednoski absent.
I . Monthly Report:
The Trustees monthly report for July was $7,194.00, which was
forwarded to Supervisor Murphy for the General Fund.
II . Public Notices:
Public Notices are posted on the Town Clerk' s bulletin board for
review.
III. Communications:
1. Charles Mebus re: road runoff and dredging projects in Jockey Creek.
2. Margery and Bertram Walker re: beach grass planting on Zeidler
property.
3. William T. Evans re: pollution of Mattituck Creek at location of Matt
A Mar Marina.
4. Mrs. Royston P. Rind , Meday Ave, Mattituck re: request for extension
of Permit #3623 to construct a dock in Mattituck Creek. Permit due to
expire September 24, 1989. Motion to approve one year extension, Henry
Smith, second, John Bredemeyer, vote of the Board: Ayes; All. Motion
Approved.
ASSESSMENTS:
1. Peconic Associates on behalf of Narrow River Marina, Orient, NY, to
maintenance dredge marina entrance and existing channel to depth of '4' at
low tide.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: We have comments from the CAC recommending disapproval of
this project, John, would you like to elaborate on this for the rest of
the Board?
FRANK KUJAWSKI : We have comments from the CAC that recommend
disapproval. John, do you have any comments on this?
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: Sure, point that we made is that it is a very small
marina and most of the boats in there do not need 41 . To go in and start
dredging 41 , you may be setting a precedent for Hallock' s Bay. Another
concern is that it is the only existing scallop population in the Town of
Southold, and there is a lot of evidence that points out the main killer
of scallops during the winter is smothering. Once the temperature drops
below 8-9-10 degrees, they stop almost completely and they can be buried
in the silt. That' s what the Green Seal Program found out over the last 3
or 4 years. As a point, I went out at low tide today and rowed up and
down, it was fairly low, 2' maybe. I ran my 16-17 ' boat to the town ramp
and into there. Once you got a little bit away I felt the water dropped
off pretty fast. We have to look at their measurements. It doesn' t look
like they want to dredge a lot, but that was our concern. If there is
somebody' s boat sitting on the bottom and it' s silted in, I don't think we
would have a problem with that.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: That' s something I never considered before, its effecting
the scallops.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: As Albert pointed out before, there was a meeting of the
minds where it was going to be cut-back.
HENRY SMITH: He doesn't seem concerned about the outboards. He has
quite a few sailboats and his main concern is getting them in and out the
4' mark. As far as the smothering, it is such a small project that a good
rainstorm would put 10 or 20 times the amount of. . . I 've seen farmers
open up the dikes and drain the fields out, and that will create more of a
problem than this dredging project. It' s a drop' in the bucket, that' s how
I feel.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: That could be attended to by the method of dredging,
particularly the cold water thing is serious. The big key is not changing
the character.-use of this creek, ..but -what about- boat size limitations?
They- want to keep the marina of small local character, so I don't think
they would object to vessel size limitations that would keep the boats in
character with the creek. There are at least two keel boats in there,
they' re not big boats, but I think this is where the problem might be.
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: Part of the concern is that -it might be a segmentation of
the whole project, that once you 'get there, then its that much further
that you have to go out and that opens Hallock' s Bay to 30 footers coming
in and anchoring overnight and you will have many people there. That is
why it is we are more sensitive to that particular place.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: That was the meeting Henry and I went to. I asked them if
they could possibly scale down the dredging from the marina to the Town
landing.
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HENRY SMITH: I was there yesterday and you can see the gully at the end
of the Town ramp. There is no question that there is road runoff that is
filling that channel in.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Actually, that' s been reconstructed twice already because
I got complaints that I referred to the Highway Department, and then they
reconstructed it. The ramp has a break in the slope which is almost from
the road and the materials we requested not be used had historically been
dumped there and the ramp had been washing down constantly.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: This is a CEA area and I think what we need to do tonight
is at least to record these comments about the project and designate
ourselves lead agency here and assess it as a type one project.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Do we have to sign off on the long EAF first, I don't
think we have completed it.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: Yes, subject to a review of the EAF. If we could have a
motion to take lead agency, type one.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I move lead agency and a positive declaration.
FRANK KUJAWSKI : This is actually a type one.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Motion to treat as type one, seconded by Frank Kujawski,
vote of the Board: Ayes: ALL. This then is sent to the DEC.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The questions I can see coming up is where is the spoil
going, and does the Board and the CAC feel that spoils analysis is
necessary.
ALBERT KRUPSKI : I think we have to cover all the bases.
MIKE MOONEY: I would like to make a comment if I can. I have replaced
some piles. . and I draw ten inches in my little work boat and I was
sitting on the bottom and I know there is no water there.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: I don' t think we have any problems with the basins where
the boat slips are. I would like to point out to the Board, that there is
a note from the U.S. Army Corps that a letter from the Town of Southold to
indicate that the applicant has their permission to temporarily store
4,150 cubic yards of dredge spoil on that property is required before they
will even review this application.
FRANK KUJAWSKI : We may have a long haul here, I do not know if that
letter has been forwarded. Do you know anything about that, Mike?
MIKE MOONEY: I have not seen the preliminary plans so I don't know what
is going on and I 'm not sure how this is going to .be done yet.
Motion to recess for Hearings, Frank Kujawski, seconded by Henry Smith.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MATTER OF THE FOLLOWING APPLICATIONS FOR
PERMITS UNDER THE WETLANDS ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD. I HAVE AN
AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION FROM THE SUFFOLK TIMES AND AN AFFADAVIT OF
PUBLICATION FROM THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER WATCHMAN. PERTINENT INFORMATION
MAY-BE READ PRIOR TO ASKING FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
7:31 P.M. In the matter of the application of Winifred Antoian to
construct a 5 ' x 60' catwalk across the inlet at Gull Pond. Property is
located on Gull Pond Lane, Greenport, N.Y. This project was approved by
the CAC provided there is minimal disturbance to the wetlands. Is there
anyone in the audience to comment either in .favor or in opposition to this
project? Seeing no one I will close our Hearing.
HENRY SMITH: It is my understanding that the catwalks across Gull Pond
inlet be limited to 4' in width, unless the person could show a hardship
or physical handicap.
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JOHN BREDEMEYER: There was no one on the property when I inspected it so
I do not know if there is a wheel chair need or not.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: Both figures, (4' and 5' ) are in the application but I
think we could approve it at 4' x 601 , maximum 41 . Is there a motion?
Albert Krupski, so moved, second, John Bredemeyer, All in favor: Aye.
7: 32 In the matter of the application of J, .M.O. Consulting on behalf of
Peter Fakiris to dredge 100 x 90 ' in boat docking are a, upland disposal
of the spoil, property located on Right of Way off Shipyard Lane, East
Marion, N.Y'. The CAC did disapprove this, and say that the dredging would
have a deleterious effect on clams and bottom organisms, no need show,
project would create a pothole effect- on the -bottom. Is there anyone here
to speak either in. favor. or in opposition to this project?
HENRY SMITH: I was there with you, Frank, and we met with the DEC, Chuck
Hamilton, and-'we brought .that' up to- him and he felt that it was no
problemwith' f .-really', "and a pothole effect might even create a habitat.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: What I am talking about is different than the
environmental- effect of the dredging itself, this is a pretty- large
project. Is this creating a small marina type situation?
FRANK-'KUJAWSKI: : No.- I -don' t think==that'.s a.-possibility,- I think we are
talking about a large boat.
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: As a point, there are eel grass beds on both sides of
this so it is not just bare bottom, and, he' s got 6' of water now.
HENRY SMITH: Yes, but when he gets a surge back and forth and you have a
boat that draws 41 , and, you get a boat bouncing up and down in there at
low tide, especially with a northwest wind, when you get abnormal low tide
it will bounce on the bottom. I thin that he is going to have an on going
problem there.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: How long do you think it will take for it to fill in
there?
HENRY SMITH: I don't know, but I wouldn' t go along with the 10 year
maintenance deal. I think he is going to have an going it should be
reviewed each time, that means he can go in there and dredge every year
for 10 years?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: It doesn' t matter because with this Board looks very
favorably on any maintenance so once it is initially done, I don't care
whether it 10 (years) or a hundred or two, it doesn't matter. Are there
any other concerns?
FRANK KUJAWSKI: There- is one _other point htat was just brought to my
attention!::�-''1_There is. a subdivision application-for- this "piece of property
so I don' t know if we are looking at segmentation here, but, that is
rumor. I do not know if that is official.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Don't we also have an assessment on the same property?
FRANK KUJAWSKI: We have another thing that is being worked out on the
violation. Why don't we table this and just check into it a little
further? I don't want to be looking a one portion of a project, I would
move to Table this, second, John Bredemeyer, All in favor? Ayes. Tabled.
7.: 33 P.M. In the matter of the application of En Consultants on behalf of
Dolores Holman to construct two 30 ' timber groins and fill westerly
portion with clean fill on West Lake Drive in Southold, N.Y. The CAC
disapproved this project, it does not represent the best engineering,
space between the groins should be 2 1/2 to 3 times the length of the
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groins, and it should be only one low profile groin. Is there anyone here
to comment either in favor of or in opposition to this application?
ROY HAJE: En Consultants for the property owner, Dolores Holman, the
project which we have before you now was approved by the DEC and a copy of
this has been forwarded to you. If you have visited the property or seen
the floor plan you will note that it is in the midst of a very large groin
field, which extends both to the east and the west. If you will also
check your records you will note that a virtually . . . . groin was
constructed about a year and a half ago, by the property owner to the
ease, Mr. Barbado. This was patterned after that, since it had been
, approved and is similar in length and characteristics to all the other
groins that are along there. So, to think that this would have any effect
beyond what we intended to, and that is to preserve the beach immediately
in front of the subject parcel I think is incorrect, it really couldn't,
not in the midst of the groin field the way it is.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Doesn' t elevation determine amount of the water level, as
opposed to placing a groin in front of the property?
ROY HAJE: Elevation of what, of the, beach?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: The beach. I just wonder how effective this is supposed
to be.
ROY HAJE: If you look at the other beaches, where the groins are
presently, there is a dramatic difference between the beaches. . . . we have
in the past tried to put stone in there to prevent loss of material at the
base and that is not working effectively. We tried the alternatives first.
FRANK KUJAWSKI : Why two, Roy, why not start with one?
ROY HAJE: We are afraid that one won't do it. Again, this is a similar
spacing now from the others.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: I can't tell that from the map, it does look like the one
to the west is shorter and quite a distance away, maybe more like 60 or 70 '
ROY HAJE: There are actually three on the property to the west.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: I can't tell that from the description I have. I see one
of similar length to the west.
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: Frank, I think on the back of that page there is an
outline of all of them.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: I see.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Are the length of those drawn into scale, Roy?
ROY HAJE: Yes.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: No, I don' t think so because they' re all the same length.
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: We don't have a problem with the drawings per se, we were
just trying to help the person with the better way of doing it, its
standard engineering to say that you should have more space and the water
can deposit the sand in there. We don't have a problem with it, there are
groins all along there. We were just trying to say to the owner that
there might be a better way of doing it, that' s really what our comments
were about.
ROY HAJE: The project was reviewed by the Coastal Engineering people of
the DEC in Albany and the permit was issued following their review.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Do you have the Barbatos application also, I remember
that was around for a long time. It was initially denied, I believe, and
then it went back and subsequently was -approved.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: I don't have a problem with it. I think it may be a
greater expense than is necessary. As John pointed out there may be a
simpler way to do this, I have no doubt that the two groins there are
probably going to build up sand.
ROY HAJE: I don't think they will have any adverse effect.
HENRY SMITH: They are in the middle of a groin field already, its not
like, its nothing new to the area.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: Are there any other comments on this application or
questions for Mr. Haje? Pleasure of the Board?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I make a motion to approve as submitted, second, Henry
Smith, vote of Board, Ayes, All.
The next hearing is in the matter of Joseph Macari to construct a 6' x
220' timber dock with a 4' x 80' lower platform for- boarding boats, at
Paradise Point .in...Southold.. Is there any.: one_ here to speak either against
or for this application? _
GEORGE COSTELLO.: I:--.am:.from Costello Marine and -I -am here to.-.represent .the
applicant and .I will- answer -any questions. . .. -.-_
FRANK KUJAWSKI I- didn' t-have -any, the 'CAC approved this project as
submitted.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Is that where -there are fancy columns and stone work?
GEORGE COSTELLO: Yes. We have the DEC permit we got in the middle of
July.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: Do we have a copy of that in the file? Yes, and the Army
Corps. Are there any other comments? We will close this hearing then, do
we have a motion?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I make a motion to approve it, second, Henry Smith, vote
of the Board, Ayes, All, Approved. .
FRANK KUJAWSKI: The next is 7:36 , I guess we missed that, in the matter
of the application of Thomas E. Prokop for construction of a floating dock
and the repair or replacement of a fixed dock and retaining wall. There
were some stipulations that the CAC wanted attached to this and that is
.the removal of- the pipe located a the site of the. dock, and I believe that
to everyone' s satisfaction, this was taken care of. Are there any
comments? My only comment is that this was a violation that has now been
cleared up and I will close the hearing and make a motion to approve,
second, Albert Krupski, All in favor, Ayes, All. Approved.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: The next is in the matter of the application of John
Geideman on behalf of the Cutchogue/New Suffolk Park District to construct
80' bulkhead with 10' return on property_ located at the end of Pequash
Avenue, Cutchogue,N.Y. Is .there anyone here- to-,speak either.-for or
against this application?-
MR. RAUCH: My name is Charles Rauch and I reside on Pequash Avenue. We
do all our bathing there at the Park District beach and I was wondering
what they' re intending to do, if they put a return or a bulkhead in there
is it going to wash the beach away as it has done down further from the
Park District property. One of the residents there has put in a stone
beach, or stone groin, and while it has kept the Park. District Beach clear
it has- washed out further to -the east. This is my first- meeting and I 'd
like to find out exactly what it is they are going to do.
ALBERT KRUPSKI : It' s interesting that you said that because on our
inspection we didn't notice, oh,- you are saying that it washed out to the
east
MR. RAUCH: To the east of the residence right near Pequash Avenue. He put
up' a retaining wall there years ago, he threw in a lot of stones, which
preserved all the beaches to the west, it was a very good thing. But to
the east, it washed out the beach.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: We didn't look that far to the east.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: So if the same pattern occurred, this structure would
then blow out the road ending.
MR. RAUCH: Just where is this. . . .
FRANK KUJAWSKI: I can show you if you would like to step up here.
Looking down the end of Pequash, here is the Park District property, and
there is the proposed bulkhead.
MR. RAUCH: So where is the swimming area, there is no beach left.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: There is actually this much beach right here, at the road
ending. Its really not a groin so I don' t think its going to have an
effect, to wash away.
MR. RAUCH: The only place this is going to build up is on the Pequash
Club property.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: If what you say is true, it will erode the Town property.
FRANK KUJAWSKI : The water is actually below the structure. We don't
usually see any structures taking any effect on the beach if its above
high water. Correct me if I 'm wrong but I don' t know how it could wash out
if high water is actually below the structure. For anything to incur
build up, it has to be subject to tidal action.
MR. RAUCH: The only one who is going to benefit from this is the Pequash
Club cause they are on the west side and the sand is going to build up on
the west side, cause their property is washing away, their property is
washing into the water.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: I would Table this tonight, I would be willing to do
that, I'd like to go down there at high tide.
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: We went over this about a week ago and I have this book,
(The Beaches Are Moving) , written by the Coastal Geologist at Duke
University, I quote, "Bulkheads function as a replacement for dunes on .the
open beach, with natural vegetation on quieter shores. The normal response
of a beach to a big storm is to wheedle sand from the dunes and allow the
waves to draw it across the beach. As this happens, the slope becomes
flat as the waves encounter more friction in their headlong rush and the
beach survives. Sand from offshore . washes back onto the beach and
blows into the building dunes so that it' s an on and off cycle that
protects itself. Where the beach cannot flatten itself, waves carry off
more sand, drop it into deeper water at locations down the beach from
where it will not return, and then the closer a bulkhead is to the water,
the quicker the beach will disappear. As storms are encouraged to steal
the beaches from in front of the bulkheads, groins will appear, and it
just goes on and on" . The point I 'm trying to make is that people might
lose more of the beach, and they are not going to have a beach in a year
or two. It' s something that you need to consider.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Right, that' s what we are considering.
FRANK KUJAWSKI: Any other comments? I think we are going to table the
hearing so it will be advertised again. I would make that motion to table
this hearing, not to close it, second Albert Krupski. All in favor? Vote
of the Board, Ayes, All. It will be re-advertised when it comes up again.
I wonder if we could meet with Mr. Geidemen here also, or Stanley Salter,
the original applicant.
FRANK KUJAWSKI : That concludes our public hearings.
MIKE MOONEY: What about Theoharides?
STATE OF NEW YORK � �ID
DEPARTMENT OF STATE ?��`
ALBANY. N.Y. 1 223 1-0001
GAIL S.SHAFFER
SECRETARY OF STATE
August 7, 1989
Mr. Merlon E. Wiggin
President
Peconic Association, Inc.
One Bootleg Alley
Greenport, NY 11944
Re: F-89-516
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York
District Permit Application
Narrow River Marina
Town of Southold
Request for Additional Information
Dear Mr. Wiggin:
Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.58, the following data and information is necessary
to enable the Department. of State to adequately assess the coastal zone effects
of this proposed project.
A letter from the Town of Southold indicating that you have their
permission to temporarily store the 4,150 C.Y. dredged spoil in their
parking lot is required before review of this application can begin.
2. Please submit color photographs of the marina entrance area and other
areas near this project location that can assist us in this review.
3. What impacts would this activity have on the fish and wildlife
habitats in the area? I refer to the Bird Sanctuary, and the Long
Beach Bay Habitat.
Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.60(a) , the review of your consistency certification
will begin after we receive and determine that the necessary data and
information is adequate to assess coastal zone effects.
Any additional information which ,you believe will facilitate our
consistency review of this project would be appreciated. ►
XCELSIOR ':-
STATE OF NEW YORK rcr' C�� ���J
DEPARTMENT OF STATE .��v� `►�
ALBANY, N.Y. 1 223 1-000 1
GAIL S.SHAFFER
SECRETARY OF STATE
August 7, 1989
Mr. Merlon E. Wiggin
President
Peconic Association, Inc.
One Bootleg Alley
Greenport, NY 11944
Re: F-89-516
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York
District Permit Application
Narrow River Marina
Town of Southold
Request for Additional Information
Dear Mr. Wiggin:
Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.58, the following data and information is necessary
to enable the Department. of State to adequately assess the coastal zone effects
of this proposed project.
1. A letter from the Town of Southold indicating that you have their
permission to temporarily store the 4,150 C.Y. dredged spoil in their
parking lot is requi ed before review of this application can begin.
parking Rg,�'0.1,4
2. Please submit co hotographs of the marina entrance area and other
areas near this project location that can assist us in this review.
3. What impacts would this activity have on the fish and wildlife
habitats in the area? I refer to the Bird Sanctuary, and the Long
Beach Bay Habitat.
Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.60(a) , the review of your consistency certification
will begin after we receive and determine that the necessary data and
information is adequate to assess coastal zone effects.
Any additional information which you believe will facilitate our
consistency review of this -project would be appreciated.
A copy of this letter has been sent to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
Please call me at (518) 474-3642 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
hiohabir Persaud
Coastal Processes
Technical Specialist
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cc: COE/NY District -Mike Infurna
NYS DEC/Region I - Christine Costopoulos
Town of Southold Trustees - Frank Kujawski, Jr.
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FRANK A. KUJAWSKI, JR., President r
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ALBERT J. KRUPSKI, JR., Vice-President � (516) 765-1892
JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, III t � ,'"•` - ' � .,iJ _
JOHN L. BEDNOSKI, JR.
HENRY P. SMITH ''
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
August 2, 1989
Mr. John Holzapfel, Chairman
Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Mr. Holzapfel:
Transmitted herewith is application No. 8-1-89-27-2-4 for 'a
Wetland Permit submitted by Peconic Associates on behalf of Narrow
River Marina, Orient, N.Y.
Please prepare a written report of findings and recommendations
with respect to this application.
Very truly yours,
Frank A. Kujawski, Jr.
President
Board of Town Trustees (�j
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Now York State Department of Environmental Conservation �
50 Wolf Road, Albany, New York 12233
Thomas C. Jorling
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RE: LEAD AGENCY COORDINATION REQUEST
The purpose of this request is to 'determine under Article 8 (State Environ-
mental Quality Review - SEQR) of the Environmental Conservation Law and 6 ,NYCRR
Part 617 the following:.
1. Your agency' s interest in acting as lead agency; I'
2. Your agency' s jurisdiction in the action described below; and
3. Issues of concern which your agency believes should be evaluated:.
Enclosed is a copy of the permit application and a completed Part 1 of the
Environmental Assessment Form to assist you in responding. I
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Project L:.ocation: � p , �� � / L�, l
DEC Project Number,:
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SEQR Classification: ] Type I [ ] Unlisted
DEC Contact Person: j� 6, �c�✓
DEC Position:
[ ) DEC has no objection to ,your agency or another, agency assuming lead agency
status for this action, but reserves the right to comment on this action if
a positive determination of significance is made.
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[ ] DEC has no objection to your agency or another agency assuming lead ag;en,cy
status for this action, but we have the following concerns regarding this
project (see "comments" below) .
[ ] DEC wishes to assume lead agency status for this action. : .; .
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[ The proposed action has been identified by DEC as occurring wholly or
partially within or substantially contiguous to a cr'tical environmental
area (CEA) that was designated by �u 112 ea'-t,%
It is the position of this Department that your agency, if it has a juris-
diction over the action, should assume the lead agency role based on the
existence of the CEA and the fact that the anticipated impacts are
primarily of local significance.
[ ] Other. (See comments below) I
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Response:
Please respond to this request within 30 days of the date of this letter.
If no response is received within 30 days, we will assume that you have no
objection to DEC or another agency assuming the role of lead agency, and have no
comments to offer regarding the proposed action at this time. If neither your
agency nor any other involved agency, including DEC, has indicated a will-
ingness to serve as lead agency within 30 days of this letter:
�}Q We will petition the Commissioner of DEC to designate a lead agency
for this action.
[ ] We will petition the Commissioner of DEC to designate your agency as
lead, presuming you have jurisdiction.
Please feel free to contact this office for further information or
discussion.
Sincerely,
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Enclosures
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JOINT APP O PERMIT ATION FOR U.S.ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEIVPPLICATt6N NO.
Please read ALL instructions on back before completing this application. Please type or print clearly in ink.Attach additional information as needed.
❑❑nARTICLE 9,TITLE 1,ARTICLE 43 6NYCRR 646(LAKE GEORGE RECREATION ZONE)
t1ARTICLE 15,TITLE 3(AQUATIC PESTICIDES CONTROL) 06NYCRR 327(AQUATIC VEGETATION) 116NYCRR 328(FISH) 1:16NYCRR 329(INSECTS)
S ❑ARTICLE 15,TITLE 5 6NYCRR 608(PROTECTION OF WATERS)
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A ❑For the construction, reconstruction,or repair of a DAM or other impoundment structure,•.
T [-][,or the disturbance at a STREAM BED OR BANKS or excavation in or fill of NAVIGABI.E WATERS, ❑40'1 WATER QUALITY CERTIFICATION
E ❑ARTICLE 15,TITLE 15 116NYCRR 601 (WATER SUPPLY) ❑6NYCRR 602(LONG ISLAND WELL)
❑ARTICLE 15,TITLE 27 6NYCRR 666(WILD, SCENIC AND RECREATIONAL RIVERS)
❑ARTICLE 24 6NYCRR 662,663(FRESHWATER WETLANDS)
❑ARTICLE 25 6NYCRR 661 (TIDAL WETLANDS) —]ARTICLE 34 6NYCRR 505(COASTAL EROSION)
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F ❑SECTION 10(RIVER AND HARBOR ACT OF 1899)for structures and work in navigable waters of the U.S. COASTAL CONSISTENCY CERTIFICATION.
E ❑SECTION 404(CLEAN WATER ACT OF 1977)for disposal of dredged or fill material in waters of the U.S.
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❑SECTION 103(MARINE PROTECTION, RESEARCH AND SANCTUARIES ACT)for'the transportation of dredged materials for dumping into ocean waters.
1. LIST PREVIOUS PERMIT/APPLICATION NUMBERS AND DATES(If any)'
NONE
2. APPLICANT IS A/AN
®Owner ❑Operator El Lessee ❑Municipality/Governmental Agency (Check as many as apply)
3. NAME OF APPLICANT(Use Full Name) �7-
FRED DACIMO ¢�.�I ':.t ;,. . ;i ' V
MAILING ADDRESS r' i TELEPHONE(Where can be,reached during day) .
NARROW RIVER ROAD � '� ~� ( 516 323-2660
POST OFFICE JUL 4 STATE•�` I ZIP CODE {j
ORIENT, L . I . N. Yi�IC ` 11957 ;'1''
4. NAME OF
❑Owner ®Agent/Contact Person (Check one)5 >'• �. �. .
P E C O N I C
MAILING ADDRESS TELEPHONE(Where can be{'reached during day) ! ?:
ONE BOOTLEG ALLEY P . 0. BOX ' 672 ( _ in
POST OFFICE STATE ';;'` ZIP CODE Ei4
GREENPORT, L. I .
5. PROJECT/FACILITY LOCATION(Mark location on map,see Number 1a on reverse side)
County S U F F O L K I Town or city S O U T H O L D I Village ORIENT
STREET ADDRESS(If different from applicant) •,,
NARROW RIVER ROAD
POST OFFICE
STATE ZIP CODE
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ORIENT, L. I . ;I. .
6. NAME OF STREAM OR BODY OF WATER
HALLOCKS BAY
7. HAS WORK BEGUN ON PROJECT? If YES, attach explanation on starting work without permit, includes dates. 8. WILL PROJECT bt-ILIZE STATE LAND? i
❑Yes ®No Show work on map and/or drawings.
❑Yes JP No
9. PROPOSED USE: 10. PROPOSED STARTING DATE: 11. APPROXIMATE COMPLETION DATE: 12. FEE OF(NYS Permit Only)
�ry ❑ Private
IJ Public ❑ Commercial 10/19 8 9 T H R U 4/ 19 9 0 4/19 9 0 $ 10 .i'0'0. Enclosed i
13. PROJECT DESCRIPTION: (e.g. quantity type of material to be excavated, dredged or used for fill or rip rap, location of disposal sites
i ype of
�{ F
structure to be installed; height of dam; size of impoundent; capacities of proposed water sources;extent of distribution system;etc.) t
4 150 }�
MAINTENANCE DREDGING OF EXISTING CHANNEL TO 4 FT. DEPTH (APPROXIMATELY XUU± CU.
AT POINTS INDICATED AND DREDGING MARINA ENTRANCE SILTED IN FROM STORM AND 'HIGHWAY
RUN OFF.
14. WILL THIS PROJECT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FEDERAL, STATE AND/OR LOCAL PERMITS? Yes ❑ No If yes, please listij
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF TRUSTEES U. S. ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS
NEW YORK' STATE DEPARTMENT OF STATE COASTAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
15. CERTIFICATION:
I hereby affirm that under penality of perjury that information provided on this form and all attachments submitted herewith is true to the best of my knowledge
and belief. False statements made herein are punishable as a Class A misdemeanor pursuant to Section 210.45 of the Penal Law.
Further, the applicant accepts full responsibility for all damage, direct or indirect, of whatever nature, and by whomever suffered, arising out of the project
described herein and agrees to indemnify and save harmless the State from suits, actions,damages and costs of every name and description resulting from said
project. In addition, Federal Law, 18 U.S.C. Section 1001 provides for a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than five years, or both,
where an applicant knowingly and willfully falsifies,co is,or covers up a material fact;or knowingly makes or uses a false.,fictitous or fraudulent statement.
El hereby authorize the agent named in Numb r 4. ab ve t submit this plication ory my behalf.
1 DATE SIGNATURE PRESIDENT
TITLE
PLEASE READ ALL INSTRUCTIONS ON REVERSE SIDE
PERMIT ADMINISTRATOR A.
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Environmental Planners & Consultants One Bootley Alley P.O.Box672
Greenport,New York 11944
(516)477-0030
Fax(516)477-0198
July 24 , 1989
Southold Town Board of Trustees
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold , L . I .
New York - 11971
Re : Narrow River Marina
Orient , New York
Permit Application
Gentlemen :
Enclosed is the Permit Application for maintenance dredging
and channel marking approaches to the Narrow River Marina .
Application .d,etails have incorporated into them the
suggestions made during our on-site meeting of May 26 that
included limiting dredging to only two (2 ) areas . You will
note that the majority of the dredging in the immediate
vicinity of the marina is silt , theoretically caused by
drainpipes from both State and Town highways and adjacent
agricultural land .
If you have any questions., please do not hesitate to contact
this office .
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
erlon E . Wig.gi Ph . D. , M. E.
President
Enclosures
cc : Mr. Fred Dacimo
Narrow River Marina
MEW/iw
;- 8/10/89 Page 2
Wetland Application No. 7-6-89-110-7-28 submitted by Gus Wade was
tabled. The Council needs better plans before it can make a recom-
mendation.
End .of East Road, Cutchogue.
On a motion by Bruce Loucka, seconded by John Tuthil, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of Wetland
Application No. 7-7-89-70-13-20. 8 submitted by James E. Fitzgerald
on behalf of Richard Hall to construct a single family residence
with a private- well and private sewage system; construct walkway
4 ' x 25 ' from retaining wall over rocks; 4 ' x 7 ' stairs for access
to beach from catwalk. Should the applicant construct the swimming
pool which was shown on the plans , the Council suggests the backwash
have its own drywell and that the backwash and drywell be placed
as far from the wetlands as possible.
Kimberly Lane, Southold.
Vote of Council: Ayes : All
Motion carried.
On a motion by John Tuthill, seconded by Margaret Feeney, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees disapproval of
Wetland Application No. 8-1-89-27-2-4 submitted by . Peconic Associates
for Narrow River Marina- to maintenance dredge the existing channel
to a 4 ' depth at points indicated on submitted plans and dredge marina
entrance. The Council recommends disapproval of the dredging project
because the channel, as marked on survey, will service small boats
and outboards . ' The project would damage the scallops, silting would
cover the only viable scallop population in Southold Town.
Narrow River Road, Orient .
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a motion by John Holzapfel, seconded by John Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED- to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of Wetland
Application No. 8-2-89-12-23-38. 1-1-22 submitted by John Geideman on
behalf of Crescent Beach Condo Association to set out 8 piles to
create 7 slips siongside existing dock and add a splash board to
dock in pile area.
Foot of Maple Lane, Greenport .
Vote of Council: Ayes : All
Motion carried.
s
On a motion by Bruce Loucka, seconded by John Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval with
stipulations of Wetland Application No. 8-3-89-70-6-10 submitted
by Janet Maddens to replace 118 l.f. of bulkhead. The Council recom-
mends approval only if the bulkhead is replaced in kind, in place ,
and not within 18" as proposed.
R.O.W, of Oaklawn Avenue, Southold.
Vote of Council: Ayes : All
Motion carried.
TELEPHONE
e% >•' ,; !y''''' ;. (516) 765-1892
t
BOARD OF TOWN TI L'STEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
APPLICATION IS HEREBY MADE TO THE TOWN TRUSTEES„ TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, SUFFOLK
COUNTY, NEW YORK, FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT PURSUANT TO THE LAWS,
ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING THE COASTA ,'' AND INTERIOR WETLANDS,
FLOOD PLAINS AND DRAINAGE AREAS OF SOUTHOLD TOWN,`: AND THE ISSUANCE OF
PERMITS PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 32 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD.
APPLICATION NO.0�l �✓ l +/ DATE J ULY 24, 1989
FRED DACIMO - PRESIDENT
APPLICANT'S NAME: NARROW RIVER MARINA TEL. NO. (516) 323-2660
MAILING ADDRESS: NARROW RIVER ROAD, ORIENT, L. I. , NEW YORK - 11957
AGENT: PECONIC ASSOCIATES, Inc. TEL NO. (516) 477-0030
AGENT ADDRESS: ONE BOOTLEG ALLEY , P. 0. BOX 672, GREENPORT, L. I. , NEW YORK - 11944
PERMIT REQUESTED TO: MAINTENANCE DREDGING OF EXISTING CHANNEL TO 4 FT. DEPTH
(APPROXIMATELY 4,150± CU. YD )AT POINTS INDICATED AND DREDGING MARINA ENTRANCE
SILTED IN FROM STORM AND HIGHWAY RUN- OFF.
LOCATION OF PROPERTY FOR REQUESTED PERMIT: NARROW RIVER ROAD, ORIENT,
NEW YORK.
HAMLET: - ORIENT
TAX MAP NO: 1000- 27-2-4
CREEK, BAY OR HARBOR FRONTING PROPERTY: HALLOCKS BAY
-'.SIZE OF PROPOSED WORK: SEE PLAN
LENGTH:
WIDTH:
App. Pagt.
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YDS. TO BE EXCAVATED: .4,150± YDS. TO BE FILLED: N/A
MANNER IN WHICH MATERIAL WILL BE REMOVED OR DEPOSITED: CRANE WITH
CLAMSHELL BUCKET ON BARGE.
WIDTH OF CANAL, CREEK OR BAY FRONTING PROPERTY: VARIOUS - SEE PLAN.
DEPTH AT LOW TIDE: •VARIES AVER. RISE IN TIDE: 2 FT.
DISTANCE TO NEAREST CHANNEL: N/A
DISTANCE PROJECT EXTENDS BEYOND SIMILAR PROJECTS IN AREA: N/A
R-40, R-80, AND R-200
AREA ZONING: RESIDENTIAL, LOW IS PROJECT FOR PRIVATE OR BUS. USE: BUSINESS
DENSITY
INTENDED USE OF PROPERTY: MARINA
DESCRIBE KNOWN PRIOR OPERATIONS CONDUCTED ON PREMISES: FROM 1874 TO 1933 WAS
AN AGRICULTURAL SHIPPING PORT ON ADJACENT PROPERTY FOR WHICH CHANNEL WAS CONSTRUCTED.
GARBAGE DUMP FROM APPROX. 1900 TO 1959. MARINA FROM 1959 TO PRESENT<
HAS ANY PRIOR LICENSE OR PERMIT BEEN ISSUED TO ERECT STRUCTURES, DREDGE,
OR DEPOSIT FILL ON SAID PREMISES: NO
HAS ANY LICENSE OR PERMIT EVER BEEN REVOKED OR SUSPENDED BY A GOVERNMENTAL
. AGENCY: NO
DESCRIBE FULLY THE REHABILITATION OF PROPERTY:
N/A
DESCRIBE PROPOSED CONDITION OF PROPERTY AFTER WORK IS COMPLETED. INCLUDE
AN ADDITIONAL SURVEY OF PROPERTY SITE IF NECESSARY:
SEE PLAN
ARE THERE ANY COVENANTS OR RESTRICTIONS IN YOUR DEED WHICH WOULD PROHIBIT
THIS PROJECT: NO
WRITTEN S OF OWNER IF NOT THE SAME AS APPLICANT:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK )
STATE OF NEW YORK )
MERLON E. WIGGIN BEING DULY SWORN DEPOSES
AND SAYS THAT HE IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE ABOVE DESCRIBED PERMITS, AND
THAT ALL STATEMENTS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE TRUE TO THE BEST OF HIS KNOWLEDGE
AND BELIEF, AND THAT WORK WILL BE DONE IN THE MANNER SET FORTH IN THIS
APPLICATION AND AS MAY BE APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF
SOUTHOLD. THE APPLICANT AGREES TO HOLD THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD AND THE TOWN
TRUSTEES HARMLESS AND FREE FROM ANY AND ALL DAMAGES AND CLAIMS ARISING
UNDER OR BY VIRTUE OF SAID PERMIT, IF GRANTED.
IN COMPLETING THIS APPLICATION, I HEREBY AUTHORIZE THE TRUSTEES, THEIR
AGENT OR REPRESENTATIVE, TO ENTER ONTO MY PROPERTY TO INSPECT THE PREMISES
IN CONJUNCTION WITH REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION.
Signature of Appliciov
SWORN TO BEFORE ME THIS '7'11A DAY OF , 19
T Y PUBLIC
JOAN A JAC=
NOTARY PUBLIC, State of J%V 0*
No. 4702900
Qualified in Suffolk 'Cow .
.'-'inmission Expires March I& Itj/
EXAMINED BY
APPROVED
DISAPPROVED
CONDITIONS (If any)
SIGNATURE OF CHAIRMAN
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June 30 , 1989
To Whom It May Concern :
This letter authorizes PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC. to act in my
behalf in making applications and securing necessary permits
relative to the maintenance dredging of existing channel
and dredging of marina entrance silted in from storm and
highway run off at NARROW RIVER MARINA, NARROW RIVER ROAD,
ORIENT, NEW YORK.
AUTHORIZED BY :
NAME:
DATE: 7"
A copy of this letter has been sent to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
Please .call me at (518) 474-3642 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Mohabir Persaud
Coastal Processes
Technical Specialist
MP:ak
cc: COE/NY District -Mike Infurna
NYS DEC/Region I - Christine Costopoulos
Town of Southold Trustees - Frank Kujawski, Jr.
1i41vb 2 (2/87)-7c •
617.21 SEC
Appendix A
State Environmental Cuality Review
FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
Purpose: The full EAF is designed to help applicants and agencies determine, in an orderly manner, whether a proje(
or action may be significant. The question of whether an action may be significant is not always easy to answer. Frequen
ly, there are aspects of a project that are subjective or unmeasureable. It is also understood that those who determir
significance may have little or no formal knowledge of the environment or may be technically expert in environment:
analysis. In addition, many who have knowledge in one particular area may not be aware of the broader concerns affectin
the question of significance.
The full EAF is intended to provide a method whereby applicants and agencies can be assured that the determinatio
process has been orderly, comprehensive in nature,yet flexible to allow introduction of information to fit a project or actior
Full EAF Components: The full EAF is comprised of three parts:
Part 1: Provides objective data and information about a given project and its site. By identifying basic projec
data, it assists a reviewer in the analysis that takes place in Parts 2 and 3.
Part 2: Focuses on identifying the range of possible impacts that may occur from a project or action. It provide
guidance as to whether an impact is likely to be considered small to moderate or whether it is a potentially
large impact. The form also identifies whether an impact can be mitigated or reduced.
Part 3: If any impact in Part 2 is identified as potentially-large, then Part 3 is used Ito evaluate whether or not th,
impact is actually important.
DETERMINATION OF SIGNIFICANCE—Type 1 and Unlisted Actions
Identify the Portions of EAF completed for this project: Part 1
Part 2 art 3
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF (Parts 1 and 2 and 3 if appropriate), and any other supporting
information, and considering both the magitude and importance of each impact, it is reasonably determined by the
lead agencythat:
A. The project will not result in any large and important impact(s) and, therefore, is one which will not .
have a significant impact on the environment, therefore a negative declaration will be prepared.
❑ B. Although the project could have a significant effect on the environment, there will not be a significant
effect for this Unlisted Action because the mitigation measures described in PART 3 have been required,
therefore a CONDITIONED negative declaration will be prepared.'
❑ C. The project may result in one or more large and important impacts that may have a significant impact
on the environment, therefore a positive declaration will be prepared.
A Conditioned Negative Declaration is only valid for Unlisted Actions
Aao levy
1 Name of Action
Name of Lead Agency
f
Print or type Na of Responsible Office in Lead Agency ,
Tale of he,ponsible Officer
Si ure of Responsible Officer in Lea Agency Signature of Prep (If erent from responsible officer)
Date
1 >
0 PART 1--PROJECT INFORMATION*
Prepared by Project Sponsor
NOTICE: This document is designed to assist in determining whether the action proposed may have a significant
on the environment. Please complete the entire form, Parts A through E. Answers to these questions will be consi
as part of the application for approval and may be subject to further verification and public review. Provide any addi:
information you believe will be needed to complete Parts 2 and 3.
It is expected that completion of the full EAF will be dependent on information currently available and will not in
new studies, research or investigation. If information requiring such additional work is unavailable,so indicate and sF
each instance.
NAME OF ACTION
NARROW RIVER MARINA
LOCATION OF ACTION(Include Street Address,Municipality and County)
NARROW RIVER ROAD, ORIENT, NEW YORK
NAME OF APPLICANT/SPONSOR
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC. BUSINESS TELEPHONE
ADDRESS ) 77-0030
ONE BOOTLEG ALLEY - P. 0. BOX 672
cITY/Po .
GREENPORT, L. I. , STATE ZIP CODE
NAME OF OWNER(If different)
FRED DACIMO BUSINESS TELEPHONE
ADDRESS (516) 323-2660
CITY/PO
O R I ENT, L. I. EN_
TATE ZIP CODE
Y. 11957
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION
MAINTENANCE DREDGING OF EXISTING CHANNEL TO 4 FT. DEPTH (APPROXIMATELY 4,150.± CU. YD.)
AT POINTS INDICATED AND DREDGING MARINA ENTRANCE SILTED FROM STORM AND HIGHWAY
I RUN OFF.
I
Please Complete Each Question—Indicate N.A. if not applicable
A. Site Description
Physical setting of overall project, both developed and undeveloped areas.
1. Present land use: OUrban Olndustrial $]Commercial CResidential(suburban) ❑Rural (non-fz
❑Forest ❑Agriculture bother PUBLIC
2. Total acreage of project area: S )l AN acres.
APPROXIMATE ACREAGE ' PRESENTLY AFTER �O��tPLETIOf`
Meadow or Brushland (Non-agricultural) 0
Forested 0 acres acre
acres 0 acre
Agricultural (Includes orchards, cropland, pasture, etc.) 0 0
acres _ acre
Wetland (Freshwater or tidal as per Articles 24. 25 of ECL) 0 acres 0
Water Surface Area PLAN SEE PLAN acre
acres �SEE acre
Unvegetated (Rock, earth or fill) 0 acres 0
Roads, buildings and other paved surfaces 0 acre
acres 0 Other (Indicate type) 0 acres 0 acre:
3. What is•predominant soil type(s) on acre:
project site? _ SAND AND SILT
a. Soil drainage: ❑`Nell drained o�
N/A o of site 0XIciderately well drained o, of site
GPoorly drained % of site
b. If any agricultural land is involved, how many acres of soil are classified within soil group 1 through 4 of the n
Land Classification System?N/= acres. (See 1 NYCRR 370).
4. Are there bedrock outcroppings on project site? CYes ®No
a. What is depth to bedrock? (in feet)
2
"5. 'Approximate peri•+tage of proposed project site with slopes: p-10°0 0 ';o 010-15%
s
N/A 015% or greater __
6. Is project substantially contiguous to, or contain a building, site, or district, listed on the'State or the Nation.
Registers of Historic Places? OYes MNo
7. Is project substantially contiguous to a site listed on the Register of National Natural Landmarks? ❑YesJN
8.. What is the depth of the water table? N/A (in feet)
9. Is site located over a primary, principal, or sole source aquifer? ❑Yes ItNo
10. Do hunting, fishing or shell fishing opportunities presently exist in the project area? nYes ❑No
11. Does project site contain any species of plant or animal life that is identified as threatened or endangerec
OYes INNo According to
Identify each species
. ` 12. Are there any unique or unusual land forms on the project site? (i.e., cliffs, dunes, other geological formations
OYes INNo Describe
13. Is the project site presently used by the community o 66 d as an open space or recreation area
IMYes ❑No If yes, explain MARINA - ToNfe A .
14. Does the present site include scenic views known to be important to the community?
OYes ❑No
15. Streams within or contiguous to project area: __ N/A
a. Name of Stream and name of,River to which it is tributary
16. Lakes, ponds, wetland areas within or contiguous to project area:
a. Name HALLOCKS BAY b. Size (In acres) APPROX. 650 ACRES
17. Is the site served by existing public utilities? ]Yes ❑No
a) If Yes, does sufficient capacity exist to allow connection? MYes ❑No
b) If Yes, will improvements be necessary to allow connection? ❑Yes K]No
18. Is the site located in an agricultural district certified pursuant to Agriculture and Markets Law, Article 25-AA
Section 303 and 30.3? OYes ®No
19. Is the site located in or substantially contiguous to a Critical Environmental Area designated pursuant to Article 8
of the ECL, and 6 NYCRR 617? OYes ONo SEE NOTE.
20. Has the site ever been used for the disposal of solid or hazardous wastes? []Yes ®No
NOTE: HALLOCKS BAY CONTAINS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF VALUABLE WETLANDS WHICH HAS
BEEN DESIGNATED BY THE STATE FOR PRESERVATION.
B. Project Description
1. Physical dimensions and scale of project (fill in dimensions as appropriate) N/A - MAINTENANCE DREDGING
a. Total contiguous acreage owned or controlled by project sponsor acres. SEE PLAN
b. Project acreage to be developed: acres initially; acres ultimately. -
c. Project acreage to remain undeveloped acres.
d. Length of project, in miles: (If appropriate)
e. If the project is an expansion, indicate percent of expansion proposed
f. Number of off-street parking spaces existing proposed o'
g. Maximum vehicular trips generated per hour
(upon completion of project)?
h. If residential: Number and type of housing units:.
One Family Two Family Multiple Family Condominium
Initially
Ultimately
i. Dimensions (in feet) of largest proposed structure height; width; length.
j• Linear feet or frontage along a public thoroughfare project will.occupy is? ft.
3
- 2.' How much nato material (i.e., rock, earth, etc.) will be removed from the site?If,150± - -
--TXtbU/cubic yards
• 3. Will'disturbed areas be reclaimed? OYes KINo ❑N/A
a. If yes, for what intend. purpose is the site being reclaimed?
b. Will topsoil be stockpiled for reclamation? OYes ' ❑No
C. Will upper subsoil be stockpiled for reclamation? OYes ❑No
4. How many acres of vegetation (trees, shrubs, ground covers) will be removed from site? 0
acres.
S. Will any mature forest (over 100 years old) or other locally-important vegetation be removed by this project?
OYes IXNo -
6. If single phase project: Anticipated period of construction 1 months, (including demolition).
7. If multi-phased: N/A
a. Total number of phases anticipated (number).
b. Anticipated date of commencement phase 1 month year, (including demolition).
c. Approximate completion date of final phase month year.
d. Is phase 1 functionally dependent on subsequent phases? Oyes ❑No
8. Will blasting occur during construction? OYes MNo
9. Number of jobs generated: during construction 4 ; after project is complete __ 0
10. Number of jobs eliminated by this project NONE
11. Will project require relocation of any projects or facilities? OYes MNo If yes, explain
12. Is surface liquid waste disposal involved? OYes MNo'
a. If yes, indicate type of waste (sewage, industrial, etc.) and amount
b. Name of water body into which effluent will be discharged
13. Is subsurface liquid waste disposal involved? OYes VNo: Type
14. Will surface area of an existing water body increase or decrease by proposal? OYes ®No
Explain
15. Is proji:ct or any portion of project located in a 100 year flood plain? OYes ANo
16. Will the project generate solid waste? Dyes KINo
a. If yes, what is the amount per month tons
b. If yes, will an existing solid waste facility be used? OYes ONo
c. If yes, give name location
d. Will any wastes not go into a sewage disposal system or into a sanitary landfill? OYes ❑No
e. If Yes, explain
17. Will the project involve the disposal of solid waste? OYes MNo
a. If yes, what is the anticipated rate of disposal? tons/month.
b. If yes, what is the anticipated site life? years.
18. Will project use herbicides or pesticides? Oyes tNO
19. Will project routinely produce odors (more than one hour per day)? OYes t7No '
20. Will project produce operating noise exceeding the local ambient noise levels? Oyes INNo
21. Will project result in an increase in energy use? OYes ®No
If yes , indicate type(s)
22: If water supply is from wells, indicate pumping capacity N/A gallons/minute. '
23. Total anticipated water usage per day N/A gallons/day.
24. Does project involve Local. State or Federal funding? OYes MNo
If Yes, explain
4
• 23'.'Approvals RJR&
Submittal
Type Date
City, Town, village.Eioard ]Yes ONo SOUTHOLD BOARD OF TRUSTEES
City, Town, Village Planning Board OYes 9INo
City, Town Zoning Board ❑Yes X]No
City, County Health Department ❑Yes ONo
Other Local Agencies OYes ®No
Other Regional Agencies OYes ®No
State Agencies 00Yes ONo NFW YnRK STATF f1 F r
Federal Agencies 6Yes ONo CORP OF ENGINEERS
C. Zoning and Planning Information
1. Does proposed action involve a planning or zoning decision? OYes X]No _
If Yes, indicate decision required:
Ozoning amendment ❑zoning variance Ospecial use permit Osubdivision Osite plan
Onew/revision of master plan ❑resource management plan ❑other
2. What is the zoning classification(s)of the site? MARINE I
3. What is the maximum potential development of the site if developed as permitted by the present zoning?
N/A
4. What is the proposed zoning of the site? — N/A
5. What is the maximum potential development of the site if developed as permitted by the proposed zoning?
N/A
6. Is the proposed action consistent with the recommended uses in"adopted local land use plans? ItYes OP
7. What are the predominant land use(s) and zoning classifications within a 14 mile radius of proposed action?
RESIDENTIAL .LOW DENSITY C
8. Is the proposed action compatible with adjoining/surrounding land uses within a '/ mile? ®Yes ❑�
9. If the proposed action is the subdivision of land, how many lots are proposed? N/A
a. What is the minimum lot size proposed?
10. Will proposed action require any authorizations) for the formation of sewer or water districts? OYes ®>
11. Will the proposed action create a demand for any community provided services (recreation, education, polic
fire protection)? OYes ®No
a. If yes, is existing capacity sufficient to handle projected demand? OYes ONo
12. Will the proposed action result in the generaiion.of traffic significantly above present levels? OYes CIN
a. If yes, is the existing road network adequate to handle the additional traffic? OYes ONO
D. Informational Details
Attach any additional information as may he needed to clarify your project. If there are or may be any adver.
impacts associated with your proposal, please discuss such impacts and the measures which you propose to mitigate
avoid them.
E. Verification
certify that the information provided above is true to the best of my knowledge.
Applicant/ ons r Name Date JULY 24, 1989
Signature Title PRESIDENT
If the action is in the Coastal Area, an ou are a state agency, complete the Coastal Assessment Form before proceedin
with this assessment.
5
q 6 Part 2—PROJECT IMPACTS AND THEIR PAAGIApL
Responsibility of Lead Agency
General Information (Read Carefully)
• In completing the form the reviewer should be guided by the question: Have my responses and determinations be(
reasonable? The reviewer is not expected to be an expert environmental analyst.
• Identifying that an impact will be potentially large (column 2) does not mean that it is also necessarily significant
Any large impact must be evaluated in PART 3 to determine significance. Identifying an impact in column 2 simp
asks that it be looked at further.
• The Examples provided are to assist the reviewer by showing types of, impacts and wherever possible the threshold
magnitude that would trigger a response in column 2. The examples are generally applicable throughout the State ar
for most situations. But, for any specific project or site other examples and/or lower thresholds may be appropria-
for a Potential Large Impact response, thus requiring evaluation in Part 3.
• The impacts of each project, on each site, in each locality, will vary. Therefore, the examples are illustrative an
have been offered as guidance.They do not constitute an exhaustive list of impacts and thresholds to answer each questio;
• The number of examples per question does not indicate the importance of each question.
• In identifying impacts, consider long term, short term and cumlative effects.
Instructions (Read carefully)
a. Answer each of the 19 questions in PART 2. Answer Yes if there will be any impact.
b. Maybe answers should be considered as Yes answers.
C. If answering Yes to a question then check the appropriate box (column 1 or 2) to indicate the potential size of th
impact. If impact threshold equals or exceeds any example provided, check column 2. If impact will occur but threshol;
is lower than example, check column 1.
d. If reviewer has doubt about size of the impact then consider the impact as potentially large and proceed to PART
e. If a potentially large impact checked in column 2 can be mitigated by change(s) in the project to a small to moderat,
impact, also check the Yes box in column 3. A No response indicates that such a reduction is not possible. Thi.
must be explained in Part 3.
1 2 3
Small to Potential Can Impact Be
IMPACT ON LAND Moderate Large Mitigated By
1 . Will the proposed action result in a physical change to the project site? Impact Impact Project Change
Examples that would apply to column 2 ONO CkES
• Any construction on slopes of 15% or greater, (15 foot rise per 100 ❑
foot of length), or where the general slopes in the project area exceed El ❑Yes ❑No
10%.
• Construction on land where the depth to the water table is less than ❑
3 feet. ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Construction of paved parking area for 1,000 or more vehicles. D
• Construction on land where bedrock is exposed or generally within ❑ ❑ Dyes ❑No
3 feet of existing ground surface. D
y
es ❑No
• .Construction that will continue for more than 1 year or involve more ❑ ❑
than one phase or stage. ❑Yes ❑,No
• Excavation for mining purposes that would remove more than 1,000 ❑ ❑
tons of natural material (i.e., rock or soil) per year. ❑Yes ❑No
• Construction or expansion of a sanitary landfill. ❑ ❑
• Construction in a designated floodway. ❑Yes ❑No
• Other impacts /.-o -� y �, eel's ElOYes ❑No
OQC_b-.--/ire:— �, a�Z7 cam — ❑ El Yes ❑No
2. Will there be an effect tf. _.,,y ur::que or unusual land forms found on
the site?(i.e., cliffs, dunes, geological formations, etc-QNO
Gl'ES
• Specific land forms: ❑ .
- � El Yes ❑No
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25.'Approvatl4quired:
Submittal
Type Date
City, Town, Village Board ❑Yes ❑No
City, Town, Village Planning Board ❑Yes ❑No
City, Town Zoning Board ❑Yes ❑No
City, County Health Department ❑Yes ❑No
Other Local Agencies ❑Yes ❑No
Other Regional Agencies [--]Yes ❑No y
State Agencies Yes ❑No hl bEC 11J L Das %S
Federal Agencies Yes ❑No C06
C. Zoning and Planning Information
1 . Does proposed action involve a planning or zoning decision? ❑Yes ❑No _
If Yes, indicate decision required:
Ozone amendment ❑zoning variance ❑special use permit ❑subdivision ❑site plan
❑new/rev ion of master plan ❑resource management plan ❑other
2. What is the zoni classification(s)of the site?
3. What is the maximu otential development of the site if d eloped as permitted by the present zoning?
4. What is the proposed zoning f the site?
S. What is the maximum potential velopment of the to if developed as permitted by the proposed zoning?
6. Is the proposed action consistent with th reco mended uses in adopted local land use plans? []Yes El
7. What are the predominant land use(s) and o ng classifications within a '/4 mile radius of proposed action?
8. Is the proposed action compatible wit adjoi ing/surrounding land uses within a '/4 mile? ❑Yes El
9. If the proposed action is the subdivisi n of land, how many lots are proposed?
a. What is the minimum lot si a proposed?
10. Will proposed action require any uthorization(s) for the ormation of sewer or water districts? ❑Yes ON,
11 . Will the proposed action treat a demand for any comm ity provided services (recreation, education, police
fire protection)? Dyes No
a. If yes, is existing ca city sufficient to handle projected de and? ❑Yes ❑No ,
12. Will the proposed action r suit in the generation of traffic significantly ove present levels? ❑Yes ❑No
a. If yes, is the exis ing road network adequate to handle the additional traffic? ❑Yes ❑No
D. Informational De ils
Attach any addition information as may be needed to clarify your project. If there are or may be any advers(
impacts associated with our proposal, please discuss such impacts and the measures which you propose to mitigate o.
avoid them.
E. Verification
I certify that a information provided above is true to the best of my knowledge.
Applicant/Sponsor Name Date
Signature
• Title
If the action is in the Coastal Area, and you are a state agency, complete the Coastal Assessment Form before proceeding
with this assessment.
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IMPACT ON WATER Small to Potential Can Impact BE
3. Will proposed action affect any water body designated as protected? Moderate Large Mitigated By
(Under Articles 15,24, 25 of the Environmental Conservation Law, ECL) Impact Impact Project Chang:
ONO -,YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Developable area of site contains a protected water body. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ONO
• Dredging more than 100 cubic yards of material from channel of a ❑ Yes ONO
�t protected stream.�'?
• Extension of utility distribution facilities through a ted water body. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Construction in a designated freshwater or idal wetlan ❑ Yes ONO
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ El Yes ONO
4. Will proposed action affect any non-protected exist or or new body
of water? �]NO DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• A 10% increase or decrease in the surface area of any body of water ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ONO
or more than a 10 acre increase or decrease.
• Construction of a body of water that exceeds 10 acres of surface area. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ONO
5. Will Proposed Action affect surface or groundwater
quality or quantity? IFLN0 DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2 Z�
• Proposed Action will require a discharge permit. ❑ El ❑Yes ONO
• Proposed Action requires use of a source of water that does not ❑ ❑ []Yes ONO
have approval to serve proposed (project) action.
• Proposed Action requires water supply from wells with greater than 45 ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ENO
gallons per minute pumping capacity.
• Construction or operation causing any contamination of a water ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ONO
supply system.
• Proposed Action will adversely affect groundwater. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Liquid effluent will be conveyed off the site to facilities which presently ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ONO
do not exist or have inadequate capacity.
• Proposed Action would use water in excess of 20,000 gallons per Elday. El ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will like!%, cause siltation or other discharge into an ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑Nb
existing body of water to tr;-extent that there will be an obvious visual
contrast to natural conditions.
• Proposed Action will require- the storage of petroleum or chemical ❑ ❑ ❑Yes- ONO
products greater than 1,100 gallons.
• Proposed Action will allow residential uses in areas without water ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ONO
and/or sewer services.
• Proposed Action locates commercial and/or industrial uses which may ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ONO
require new or expansion of erxistint; waste treatment and/or storage
facilities.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑1'es ❑No
6. Will proposed action alter draimwe flaw or patterns, or surface
water runoff? L9,\'0 ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action would change flood water flows. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes []No
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mall to Potential Can Impact Be
oderate Large Mitigated By
Impact Impact Project Change
• Proposed Action may cause substantial erosion. ❑ ❑
• Proposed Action is incompatible with existing drainage patterns. El ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will allow development in a designated floodway. El0 ❑Yes ❑No
❑Yes []No Other impacts:
❑ ❑ - ❑Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON AIR
7. Will proposed action affect air quality? �9NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action will induce 1,000 or more vehicle trips in any given ❑
hour. ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will result in the incineration of more than 1 ton of ❑ ❑
refuse per hour. ❑Yes ❑No
• Emission rate of total,contaminants will exceed 5 lbs. per hour or a ❑
heat source producing more than 10 million BTU's per hour. ❑ []Yes []No
• Proposed action will allow an increase in the amount of land committed ❑ ❑
to industrial use. []Yes ❑No
• Proposed action will allow an increase in the density of industrial ❑
development within existing industrial areas. ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ []Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS
8. Will Proposed Action affect any threatened or end ngered
species? NO YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Reduction of one or more species listed on the New York or Federal ❑
list, using the site, over or near site or found on the site. El Yes []No
• Removal of any portion of a critical or significant wildlife habitat.
❑ ❑Yes ❑No
Application of pesticide or herbicide more than twice a year, other ❑
than for agricultural purposes. ❑ ❑Yes .❑No
• Other impacts:_ t7sS��i� Zk-" .,_? 70 i?e;?C
—_/�aA�r�o_ c�Qr:�41✓LSy�vS �l ❑ El Yes ❑No
9 Will Proposed Action substantially affect non-threa ened or
nova-endangered species? ZNO DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action would substantially interfere with any resident or ❑ ❑
migratory fish, shellfish or wildlife species. ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action requires the removal of more than 10 acres ❑ ❑
of mature forest (over 100 years of age) or other locally important ❑1'es ❑No
vegetation.
IMPACT ON AGRICULTURAL LAND RESOURCcS
10 Will the Proposed Action affect agricultural land resources?
Examples that would apply to column 2 -4,10 OYES
• the proposed action would sever, cross or limit access to agricultural ❑ ❑
land (includes cropland, hayfields, pasture, vineyard, orchard, etc.) ❑Yes ❑No
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1 2 3
Small to Potential Can Impact Be
Moderate Large Mitigated By
Impact Impact Project Change
• Construction activity would excavate or compact the soil profile of ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
agricultural land.
• The proposed action would irreversibly convert more than 10 acres ❑ ❑ []Yes ❑No
of agricultural land or, if located in an Agricultutal District, more
than 2.5 acres of agricultural land.
• The proposed action would disrupt or prevent installation of agricultural ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
land management systems (e.g., subsurface drain lines, outlet ditches,
strip cropping); or create a need for such measures (e.g. cause a farm
field to drain poorly due to increased runoff)
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON AESTHETIC RESOURCES`
11 . Will proposed action affect aesthetic resources? N0 DYES
(If necessary, use the Visual. EAF Addendum in Section 617.21,
Appendix B.)
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed land uses, or project components obviously different from ❑ ❑ ❑Yes []No
or in sharp contrast to current surrounding land use patterns, whether
man-made or natural.
• Proposed land uses, or project components visible to users of ❑ ❑ Dyes []No
aesthetic resources which will eliminate or significantly reduce their
enjoyment of the aesthetic qualities of that resource.
• Project components that will result in the elimination or significant ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
screening of scenic views known to be important to the area.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON HISTORIC AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESOURCES
12. Will Proposed Action impact any site or structure of historic, pre-
historic or paleontological importance? kNO DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action occurring wholly or partially within or substantially ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
contiguous to any facility or site listed on the State or National Register
of historic places.
• Any impact to an archaeological site or fossil bed located within the ❑ ❑ ❑Yes. ❑No
project site.
• Proposed Action will occur in an area designated as sensitive for ❑ ❑ []Yes []No
archaeological sites on the NYS Site Inventory.
*-Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
13 Will Proposed Action affect the quantity or quality of existing or
future open spaces or recreational opportunities?
Examples that would apply to column 2 ONO -OYES
• The permanent foreclosure of a future recreational opportunity. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes
• A major reduction of an open space important to the community. ❑No
❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Other impacts: -7A•j2 PC'A"S(-' Cvs1T�a? pEJ��y.,0el-v F ❑ I]Yes ❑No
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IMPACT ON TRANSPORTATION 1 2 3
Small to Potential Can Impact Br
14. Will there be an effect to existing transportation sy ms? Moderate Large Mitigated By
NO DYES Impact Impact Project Chang.
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Alteration of present patterns of movement of people and/or goods. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will result in major traffic problems. ❑ ❑ El Yes []No
• Other impacts: ❑ -Q ❑Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON ENERGY
15. Will proposed action affect the community's sources of fuel or
energy supply? CNO DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2 '\
• Proposed Action will cause a greater than 5% increase in the use of ❑ ❑ []Yes ❑No
any form of energy in the municipality.
• Proposed Action will require the creation or extension of an energy ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
transmission or supply system to serve more than 50 single or two family
residences or to serve a major commercial or industrial use.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
NOISE AND ODOR IMPACTS
16. Will there be objectionable odors, noise, or vibration as a result
of the Proposed Action? O DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Blasting within 1,500 feet of a hospital, school or other sensitive ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
facility.
• Odors will occur routinely (more than one hour per day). ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will produce operating noise exceeding the local ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
ambient noise levels for noise outside of structures. _ "I
• Proposed Action will remove natural barriers that would act as a ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
noise screen.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON PUBLIC HEALTH:
17. Will Proposed Action affect public health and safety?
�NO OYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action may cause a risk of explosion or release of hazardous ❑ ❑ ❑Yes- . ❑No
substances(i.e. oil, pesticides, chemicals, radiation, etc.) in the event of
accident or upset conditions, or there may be a chronic low level
discharge or emission.
• Proposed Action may result in the burial of "hazardous wastes" in any ❑ ❑ ❑Yes El No ,
form (i.e. toxic, poisonous,. highly reactive, -radioactive, irritating,
infectious, etc.)
• Storage facilities for one million or more gallons of liquified natural ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
gas or other flammable liquids.
• Proposed action may result in the excavation or other disturbance ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑NO
within 2,000 feet of a site used for the disposal of solid or hazardous
waste.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
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IMPACT ON GROWTH AND CHARACTER 1 2 3
OF COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD Small to Potential Can Impact Be
18. Will proposed action affect the character of the existing community? Moderate Large Mitigated By
�NO DYES Impact Impact Project Change
Examples that would apply to column 2
• The permanent population of the city, town or village in which the ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
project is located is likely to grow by more than 5%.
• The municipal budget for capital expenditures or operating services ❑ ❑ ' ❑Yes ❑No
will increase by more than 5% per year as a result of this project.
• Proposed action will conflict with officially adopted plans or goals. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed action will cause a change in the density of land use. ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will replace or eliminate existing facilities, structures ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
or areas of historic importance to the community.
• Development will create a demand for additional community services ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
(e.g. schools, police and fire, etc.)
• Proposed Action will set an important precedent for future projects. ❑ ❑
El Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will create or eliminate employment. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
19. Is there, or is there likely to be, public controversy related to
potential adverse environmental impacts? ❑NO YES
1f Any Action in Part 2 Is Identified as a Potential Large Impact or
If You Cannot Determine the Magnitude of Impact, Proceed to Part 3
Park 3—:'-='JaLUAT10i`J O� THE_RAPORI 1"ANCc OF
Responsibility of Lead Agency
Part 3 must be prepared if one or more impacts) is considered to be potentially large, even if the impact(s) may be
mitigated.
Instructions
Discuss the following for each impact identified in Column 2 of Part 2:
1 . Briefly describe the impact. Less di= CCA
2. Describe(if applicable)how the impact could, itigated r reduced to a small to moderate impact by project chan e
A CCD ti— - '4-40� a� •j" ,cr�E L s).
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3. Based on the information available, decide if it is reasonable to conclude that this impact is important.
To answer the question of importance, consider:
• The probability of the impact occurring
• The duration of the impact
• Its irreversibility, including permanently lost resources of value
• Whether the impact can or will be controlled
• The regional consequence of the impact
• Its potential diverhence from local needs and goals
• Whether known objections to the project relate to this impact.
(Continue on attachments)
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` Appendix B �cCIR
State Environmental Quality Review
Visual EAF addendum -
This form may be used to provide additional information relating to Question 11 of Part 2 of
the Full EAF.
(To be completed by Lead Agency)
Distance Between
Visibility Project and Resource (in Miles)
1. Would the project be visible from: 0-'/4 'A-'/z 1/2-3 3-5 5+
• A parcel of land which is dedicated to and available ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
to the public for the use, enjoyment and appreciation
of natural or man-made scenic qualities?
• An overlook or parcel of land dedicated to public ❑ ❑ --. ❑ EI ❑
observation, enjoyment and appreciation of natural
or man-made scenic qualities?
• A site or structure listed on the National or State ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
Registers of Historic Places?
• State Parks? ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
• The State Forest Preserve? ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
• National Wildlife Refuges and state game refuges? ❑ ❑ 0 ❑ ❑
• National Natural Landmarks and other outstanding ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
natural features?
• National Park Service lands? ❑ ❑ ❑ El ❑
• Rivers designated as National or State Wild, Scenic ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
or Recreational?
• Any transportation corridor of high exposure, such ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
as part of the Interstate System, or Amtrak?
• A governmentally established or designated interstate ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑' ❑
or inter-county foot trail, or one formally proposed for
establishment or designation?
• A site, area, lake, reservoir or highway designated as ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
scenic?
• Municipal.park, or designated open space? ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
. • County road? ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ O. .
• State? ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
• Local road? ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
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j2. Is the visibility of the project seasonal? (i.e., screened by summer foliage, but visible during other
seasons)
❑Yes ❑No
3. Are any of the resources checked in question I used by the public during the time of year
during which the project will be visible?
Yes ❑No
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DESCRIPTION OF EXISTING VISUAL ENVIRONMENT
4. From each item checked in question 1, check those which generally describe the surrounding
environment.
Within
*'/a mile *1 mile
Essentially undeveloped El
Forested
Agricultural
Suburban residential
Industrial
Commercial
Urban ❑
River, Lake, Pond
Cliffs, Overlooks 0
Designated Open Space EJ
Flat
Hilly
Mountainous
Other El
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5. Are there visually similar projects within:
*'/z mile ❑Yes ❑No
*1 miles ❑Yes El No
*2 miles Yes El No
*3 miles ❑Yes No
* Distance from project site are provided for assistance. Substitute other distances as appropriate.
EXPOSURE
6. The annual number of viewers likely to observe the proposed project is
NOTE: When user data is unavailable or unknown, use best estimate.
CONTEXT
7. The situation or activity in which the viewers are engaged while viewing the proposed action is
FREQUENCY
Holidays/
Activity Travel to and from work Daily Weekly Weekends Seasonally
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Involved in recreational activities
Routine travel by residents El J❑
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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
APPLICATION IS HEREBY MADE TO THE TOWN TRUSTEES, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, SUFFOLK
COUNTY, NEW YORK, FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT PURSUANT TO THE LAWS,
ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING THE COASTAL AND INTERIOR WETLANDS,
FLOOD PLAINS AND DRAINAGE AREAS OF SOUTHOLD TOWN, AND THE ISSUANCE OF
PERMITS PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 32 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD.
APPLICATION NO. ® 9' /r�- DATE JULY 24, 1989
FRED DACIMO - PRESIDENT
APPLICANT'S NAME: NARROW RIVER MARINA TEL. NO. (516) 323-2660
MAILING ADDRESS: NARROW RIVER ROAD, ORIENT, L. I. , NEW YORK - 11957
AGENT: PECONIC ASSOCIATES, Inc. TEL NO. (516) 477-0030
AGENT ADDRESS: ONE BOOTLEG ALLEY , P. 0. BOX 672, GREENPORT, L. I. , NEW YORK - 11944
PERMIT REQUESTED TO: MAINTENANCE DREDGING OF EXISTING CHANNEL TO 4 FT. DEPTH
(APPROXIMATELY 4,150± CU. YD )AT POINTS INDICATED AND DREDGING MARINA ENTRANCE
SILTED IN FROM STORM AND HIGHWAY RUN- OFF.,
LOCATION OF PROPERTY FOR REQUESTED PERMIT: NARROW RIVER ROAD, ORIENT,
NEW YORK.
HAMLET: - ORIENT
TAX MAP NO: 1000- 27-2-4
CREEK, BAY OR HARBOR FRONTING PROPERTY: HALLOCKS BAY
SIZE OF PROPOSED WORK: SEE PLAN
LENGTH:
WIDTH:
App. 0-ge 2.
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YDS.Y TO BE EXCAVATED: 4,150± YDS. TO BE FILLED: N/A
MANNER IN WHICH MATERIAL WILL BE REMOVED OR DEPOSITED: CRANE WITH
CLAMSHELL BUCKET ON BARGE.
WIDTH OF CANAL, CREEK OR BAY FRONTING PROPERTY: VARIOUS - SEE PLAN.
DEPTH AT LOW TIDE: VARIES AVER. RISE IN TIDE: 2 FT.
DISTANCE TO NEAREST CHANNEL: N/A
DISTANCE PROJECT EXTENDS BEYOND SIMILAR PROJECTS IN AREA: N/A
R-40, R-80, AND R-200
AREA ZONING: RESIDENTIAL, LOW IS PROJECT FOR PRIVATE OR BUS. USE: BUSINESS
DENSITY
INTENDED USE OF PROPERTY: MARINA
DESCRIBE KNOWN PRIOR OPERATIONS CONDUCTED ON PREMISES: FROM 1874 TO 1933 WAS
AN AGRICULTURAL SHIPPING PORT ON ADJACENT PROPERTY FOR WHICH CHANNEL WAS CONSTRUCTED.
.GARBAGE DUMP FROM APPROX. 1900 TO 1959. MARINA FROM 1959 TO PRESENT<
HAS ANY PRIOR LICENSE OR PERMIT BEEN ISSUED TO ERECT STRUCTURES, DREDGE,
OR DEPOSIT FILL ON SAID PREMISES: NO
HAS ANY LICENSE OR PERMIT EVER BEEN REVOKED OR SUSPENDED BY A GOVERNMENTAL
AGENCY: NO
DESCRIBE FULLY THE REHABILITATION OF PROPERTY:
N/A
DESCRIBE PROPOSED CONDITION OF PROPERTY AFTER WORK IS COMPLETED. INCLUDE
AN ADDITIONAL SURVEY- OF PROPERTY SITE IF NECESSARY:
SEE PLAN
ARE THERE ANY COVENANTS OR RESTRICTIONS IN YOUR DEED WHICH WOULD PROHIBIT
THIS PROJECT: NO
WRITTEN S OF OWNER IF NOT THE SAME AS APPLICANT:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK )
STATE OF NEW YORK )
MERLON E. WIGGIN BEING DULY SWORN DEPOSES
AND SAYS THAT HE IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE ABOVE DESCRIBED PERMITS, AND
THAT ALL STATEMENTS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE TRUE TO THE BEST OF HIS KNOWLEDGE
AND BELIEF, AND THAT WORK WILL BE DONE IN THE MANNER SET FORTH IN THIS
APPLICATION AND AS MAY BE APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF
SOUTHOLD. THE APPLICANT AGREES TO HOLD THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD AND THE TOWN
TRUSTEES HARMLESS AND FREE FROM ANY AND ALL DAMAGES AND CLAIMS ARISING
UNDER OR BY VIRTUE OF SAID PERMIT, IF GRANTED.
IN COMPLETING THIS APPLICATION, I HEREBY AUTHORIZE THE TRUSTEES, THEIR
AGENT OR REPRESENTATIVE, TO ENTER ONTO MY PROPERTY TO INSPECT THE PREMISES
IN CONJUNCTION WITH REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION.
Signature of AppliltOk
SWORN TO BEFORE ME THIS DAY OF , 19
T Y PUBLIC
JOAN A. JAB
NOTARY PUBLIC, State of fW j�*.
No. 4702900
Qualified in Suffolk'Cam .
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SIGNATURE OF CHAIRMAN
COMPUTATION OF FEES
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Purpose: The full EAF is designedo°help applicants and agencies�'determine,,in an orderly manner whether a prole
or action may be`significant. The question of whether an action'may be significant is,not always easy to1.answer:F�equen
ly, there are aspects of a project ihavi re subjective orunmeasureable:•It"is:also understood that those wkio:determit•
significance may have little or no•formal knowledge of.the environment or may be technically expert i' environr—t"'
analysis. In addition,many who have'-knowledge particular area,maynot be aware.of the broader oricerns.affect�i
the question of'significance.
The full EAF is intended to-provide•a method.whereby,applicants and agencies can be assured that the determmatfo�
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Full EAF Components: The full EAF is comprised'of'three'parts:
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data, it assists a reviewer in the analysis that takes place in Parts.2.and 3. ..
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large impact. The form also identifies whether:an•impact'can,,be mitigated-or reduced
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effect for this Unlisted Action because the mitigatiommeasures desc there,will.not .e a.;ignifi.cant ,
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on'tlie environment, therefore a positive declaration will be prepared,f�f I;{ ' A Conditioned Negative Declaration is only valid for Unlisted Actions 198g ' ` . J' ,
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PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.
Environmental Planners & Consultants One Bootley Alley P.O.Box672
Greenport,New York 11944
(516)477-0030
Fax(516)477-0198
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January 23 , 1989
JAN 2 51.989
Southold Town Board of Trustees -' -`- �.------
Southold Town Hall
Main Road t
Southold , L . I .
New York - 11971
Re : Narrow River Marina
Orient , New York
Maintenance Dredging .
Gentlemen :
Enclosed are aerial photographs and surveys of the existing
channel from Orient Harbor ( Pete ' s Neck ) and into Narrow
River Marina .
As this is a very ecologically sensitive area , request a
pre-application joint meeting with a representative of the
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and
the Southold Town Trustees to discuss the application for
maintenance dredging .
If additional information is required prior to the meeting ,
please do not hesitate to get in touch .
Sincerely ,
PECONIC ASSOCIATED , INC .
Merlon E. Wiggin(/, h . D. , M. E.
President
Enclosures
cc : Mr. Fred Dacimo
MEW/iw
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
Building 40—SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11794Aim
(516) 751-7900 u T+'
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Thomas C. Jorling
Commissioner
March 31 , 1989
Mr. Merlon E. Wiggins
Peconic Associates
P.O. Box 672
Bootleg Alley
Greenport, NY 11944
Re: Application No. 10-89-0209
Narrow River Marina
Dear Mr. Wiggins:
This is to confirm an on-site, on-the-water meeting we have scheduled for
Thursday, April 13, 1989, with a substitute date of Friday, April 28, 1989, in
case of rain or strong winds on Thursday.
It is expected that your client will supply the boat.
This S4te '-nspection must be done at low-tide, therefore, we should be at
the marina at 11 :00 a.m. on Thursday (or 10:00 a.m.. on the last Friday of April)
to look at the various proposed dredging areas. The proposed spoil sites should
also be identified.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Very truly yours,
Robert N. Thurber
Senior Environmental Analyst
RNT:jf
cc: F om A. Krupski
Costopoulos
G. Stadnik
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