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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-03/06/1973 _ o 0 T Southold Town Planning Board S❑UTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971 Ol � y►`� PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wickham, Chairman Henry Molsa Alfred Grebe Henry Raynor Frank Coyle M I N U T E S SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD March 6 , 1973 A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held at 7 :30 p.m. , Tuesday, March 6 , 1973 , at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. There were present: Messrs. John. Wickham, Chairman; Henry Moisa, Vice Chairman; Henry Raynor; Frank Coyle; Alfred Grebe. Also present: Howard Terry, Building Inspector; Mrs . Bachrach, League of Women Voters. Mr. Michael Weinstein appeared before the Board in reference to proposed minor subdivision off Platt Road, Orient. Mr. Bob Gillispie, III, also came before the -Board with a proposed layout of the subdivision showing four lots with a 50 foot road. in the middle of the property. The Board approved of this layout and will require a legal instrument that the property will not be resubdivided and also that the 50 foot Southold Town Planning Board - 2 - March 6 , 1973 road be extended to the property line. The lots must be numbered and show the square footage of each. A test hole will be required by the Health Department. The property is under contract and the purchasers own no adjacent property. The Board gave tentative approval to the map, with the right of way extending to the property line . Dick Cron, Esq. , appeared before the Board in regard to property owned by Cron and Wilsberg, Orient Point. He presented a proposal showing 135 condominium units to be constructed on approximately 17 acres, five units to a building, and 30 acres of open space . Mr. Cron said they plan to develop part of the open space with a par 30 golf course. The Board advised Mr. Cron the distance between the buildings must be twice the height. Mr. Cron said the sketch was not drawn to scale, but just to show the general concept as to use. The Board also informed Mr. Cron that the map must show all property owned, including the property the hotel is on and the property where the condominiums are proposed would require a change of zone. The hotel property could be put in a Section II , but it must be included on the map. The Board asked Mr. Cron if the adjacent property of Latham was under contract. Mr . Cron said no, but they have first refusal on it. The Board stated that they were more in favor of this concept than the previous proposal . Mr. Cron said that this proposal had been worked out .by the Suffolk County Planning Commission. They propose to have two bedroom units. Mr. Cron said it would be an adult community and seasonal. It would be fully restricted to adults only. This restriction, would be for as long as the condominiums exist. The Board told Mr. Cron he would have to apply to the Town Board for a change of zone first and it would then be submitted to the Planning Board for their recommendations. This change is not on the Master Plan and that would have to be considered. Rudolph Bruer, Esq. , appeared before the Board with a proposed subdivision for Lorraine Hochman, et al, on property off Ridge Lane, Cutchogue. The property is 21. 831 acres and 19 lots are proposed. The Board informed Mr. Bruer that the Town Board is considering increasing the frontage to 150 feet. Also there will e Southold Town Planning Board - 3 - March 6 , 1973 have to be a connection for the proposed east-west highway. Mr. Bruer said this would -be done and asked what will .be required for park and playground. The Board advised Mr. Bruer that park and playground must be provided for and they are - considering bonding for this improvement and the installation of some type . of recreational equipment. The location would depend on the topography, of the , land. It is possible that the park and playground could be combined with .the drainage area. The Board suggested that before any further work is done that the water be tested. .Lot #19 will have to have access off Bridge Lane . Mr. Bruer said the owners have no adjacent property and left copy of map for the Board. Mr. Kroehler and Mr. Chapman appeared before the Board in regard to . final approval for Land' s End Subdivision at Orient.. . The Board told them the affidavit of disclosure and final maps , with changes requested, had been received and the file is complete. The hearing is scheduled to reconvene on March 21st, but this date will ,be changed-.and they will be",---notified when the date is set. All the conditions have been met and they will not be required to appear when the hearing is reconvened. The Board discussed Laurelwood Estates Subdivision with the owner and developer, Martin Weglicki. The Board informed Mr. Weglicki that a consulting engineer has been engaged to make a -report on the roads and drainage in the subdivision. Mr. Weglicki said the people who cut the roads cut them too deep and scalped the top soil 30 to 40 feet back on each side of the road. Mr. Weglicki also said LILCO broke up the curbs when they installed the underground service., The Board told Mr. Weglicki the release or renewal of his bond would depend on the engineer ' s report. Also if the engineer recommends changing the circle at the intersection, the lot lines would have to be. changed. Mr. Weglicki said approximately 16 lots have been sold. Southold Town Planning Board - 4 - March 6 , 1973 The Chairman told Mr. Weglicki if' a ridge was put up on property when a house was under construction, it . would help prevent water from running into road. Mr. Weglicki said the reason the road construction was held up was because they had to wait for LILCO to put in the underground service. The Chairman told Mr. Weglicki that a fire truck could not get through if there was a fire in one of, the houses. The Board told Mr. Weglicki they will get in touch with him after the engineefs report.. is received. Lefferts P. Edson, Esq. ; appeared before the Board and asked what were the specifications for clustering. Mr. Wickham informed him thd-121anning Board has the authority to approve cluster✓ zoning� now, but has asked the Town Board .to be more specific. A hearing will be held on this within the next two to four weeks, but the Board knows what the conditions are to be. The. Board is asking to be allowed to reduce frontage, rear yard and several requirements by up to . 50% . The: total number of units will be. figured from the total area after taking 20% for roads and improvements and then dividing the remainder by 40 ,000 squafe feet. There must ,be a home owners association to take care of the open space. Mr. Edson presented a map of property owned by Crown Land Lane, Inc. , at Cutchogue, N.Y. , consisting of 22 .578 acres , which shows proposed clustering. 20 lots are proposed with a frontage of approximately 105 feet. A suggestion was. made, .that . part of the open space be near the Main Road to provide buffering and have, the lots in the middle of the property. Mr. Edson said he thought it would be 'more advantageous to have all the open space in one piece. The- Board told Mr. Edson he would have to reserve a strip of land for the proposed road parallel to the Main Road. The Board also said the Health Department may want ,a test well on the north end of the property. The Chairman told Mr. Edson that this map must go to the County Planning Commission and Health Department and when it comes to clustering, the arrangement . of wells and cesspools can be a problem on half acre lots . The Planning Board will recommend this clustering to the County but their rules are not based on it. The Health Department has said that if the -Planning Board recommends it they would be inclined to look favorably on it. They did not say they will give approval. • Southold Town Planning Board - 5 - March 6 , 1973 Mr. Frank Knispel appeared before the Board with a revised site plan for proposed storage buildings at Naugles Dock. This revised plan shows all the buildings within the Business zone district, plus the 30 foot allowance into the "A" district. Mr. Knispel gave the Board pictures of the buildings to be .put up. Mrs. Backrach asked the Board if this would involve the Army Corps of Engineers and the Chairman said it would not because this was upland. Mr. Terry said he would still have to put up a retaining wall. Mr: Knispel said he would put up a fence also. The Board told Mr. Knispel he will have to submit a plan showing elevations for site plan approval. Also the Board will want to know what plantings will be used, where the retaining wall will be, what the buildings will look like and the Board may submit the plans to the Soil and Water Conservation Department for their comments . Mr. Knispel also submitted a plan of Anchor- Inn Restaurant and asked about removing part of the bank to enlarge the parking. The Board told Mr. Knispel to. submit a plan showing contours and elevations . Charles Cuddy, Esq. , came before the Board and inquired about multiple dwellings on two pieces of property owned by Werner L. Adel, Jr. , at Mattituck, consisting of 38 acres .and 16 acres . The Board informed Mr. Cuddy that the zone would have to be changed and the prospects of this are very remote because this is not part of- the Master Plan for the Town. The Master Plan does not propose any multiple dwellings between the villages. An application could be submitted to the Town Board, but the Planning Board cannot be expected to approve it. Mr. Cuddy asked about cluster development. The Chairman told him the Planning Board has the authority to cluster but has not done it. They want more guidance from the Town Board and there is a problem with the County Health Department. Under the guidelines clustering would allow you to put houses on half acre lots and make some arrangement to maintain other half of the property in open space and tie it up to a home owners association. Mr. Cuddy thanked the Board for their recommendations . Southold Town Planning Board - 6 - March 6 , 1973 Mr. James Bitses appeared before the Board with a map of property off Grand Avenue, Mattituck, consisting of 11. 9 acres . Mr. Bitses said he does not want to develop. the whold parcel at once and would like approval for three lots . The plan shows a 60 foot road and Mr. Bitses asked about. having a 10 foot island down the middle of the road. The Board told Mr. Bitses they would not accept a minor subdivision where there is more than five lots and where there is other property in the same ownership, so this would be a major subdivision. If he files for a subdivision and preliminary approval is given - the Planning Board will instruct the Building Inspector to give you a building permit on only one lot. The Planning Board cannot give a building permit on one lot in a subdivision before the plans reach the stage of final approval. Also you would have to get special permission from the Superintendent of Highways for the island in the middle of the road. Sometimes divided highways cause maintenance problems. Mr. Bitses asked about curbs and the Chairman told him at the present time the specs call for curbs and gutters . There is a proposed idea for no curbs but it is more costly than putting in curbs and gutters . On motion of Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Wickham, it was RESOLVED that a Special Meeting of the Planning Board will be held March 15 , 1973 , at 7 : 30 p.m. , at the Town Office , Main Road, Southold, N.Y. Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs . Raynor, Wickham, Coyle, Grebe, Moisa. On motion of Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was RESOLVED that the Planning Board meeting scheduled for March 21, 1973 , be changed to March 28 , 1973 , and the hearing for Land ' s End Subdivision will reconvene on March 28 , 1973 , at 7 :30 p.m. , at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, N.Y. Southold Town Planning Board- - 7 - March 6 , 1973 Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Coyle, Moisa, Wickham, Raynor, Grebe. The Board received a copy of a letter sent to Supervisor Martocchia and the members of the Town Board from the' League of- Women Voters, dated March 6 , 1973 , in regard to their comments on the proposed amendments to the Zoning Ordinance, The Board received a copy of a letter from the Supervisor to Mr. Edward-J. Bage, that he is being retained as consulting engineer for the Town and will perform duties formerly performed by Charles Abrahams. The meeting was adjourned at -11: 00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Terri Lee Elak, Secretary Southold Town. Planning Board John Wickham, Chairman