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1 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK : STATE OF NEW YORK
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TOWN BOARD
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7 Southold, New York
8 September 9, 2025
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16 ALBERT KRUPSKI JR, SUPERVISOR
17 LOUISA P . EVANS, JUSTICE
18 JILL DOHERTY, COUNCILWOMAN
19 GREG DOROSKI , COUNCILMAN
20 BRIAN O . MEALY, COUNCILMAN
21 ANNE H . SMITH, COUNCILWOMAN
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SEPTEMBER 9, 2025 REGULAR MEETING 2
1 INDEX TO TESTIMONY
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3 Public Hearing : SWMD Payloader Bond 3-5
4 Public Comments 5-32
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SEPTEMBER 9, 2025 REGULAR MEETING 3
1 PUBLIC HEARING : SWMD PAYLOADER BOND
2 TOWN CLERK DENIS NONCARROW : So
3 for this public hearing, it ' s a DPW
4 Bond . The application being considered
5 at this public hearing concerns the
6 issuance of a bond and an amount not to
7 exceed $370 , 000 for the proposed
8 increase and improvement of facilities
9 of the Southold Solid Waste Management
10 District consisting of the acquisition
11 of the payloader pursuant to Section
12 202-B of Town Law . Legal notices for
13 this public hearing are published no
14 less than 10 days and not more than 20
15 days prior to the public hearing in an
16 eligible legal town newspaper . The
17 Town Clerk ' s Office has received the
18 Affidavit of Service from the newspaper
19 indicating that that notice was
20 properly published . The proposed
21 action was referred to Planning
22 Department for a SEQRA determination
23 and the action was considered a Type 2
24 Action under SEQRA, not requiring
25 further review . The Town Clerk ' s file
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1 also includes an Affidavit of Posting
2 of the public notice of the Town
3 Clerk ' s bulletin board at Town Hall .
4 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Mr .
5 DeChance, are all the legal documents
6 and notifications in order?
7 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE :
8 Everything is in order, Mr . Supervisor .
9 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
10 you .
11 All right . Would anyone like to
12 speak to this public hearing?
13 (No Response) .
14 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : I
15 don ' t see anyone on Zoom or in the
16 room . Seeing no comment, do I have a
17 motion?
18 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Motion to
19 the close the hearing .
20 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Second .
21 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : All in
22 favor?
23 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Aye .
24 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye .
25 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye .
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1 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : Aye .
2 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye .
3 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Aye .
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5 PUBLIC COMMENTS
6 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : That
7 concludes the regular agenda . Is there
8 anyone here who would like to address
9 the Board on any matter?
10 ABIGAIL FIELD : Hi , I ' ll be super
11 quick . Abigail Field in Cutchogue . At
12 the work session, you guys mentioned
13 having a committee for public
14 communications . I salute you in that .
15 The website and communications need
16 help . But I just want to encourage you
17 to begin by reviewing your existing web
18 pages . In my own experience , they are
19 not consistently clear and concise . I
20 find links that don ' t go where they
21 should go . The Facebook page that I
22 follow is also not particularly useful .
23 And I ' m on a lot of your e-mail lists .
24 I get a lot of e-mails . I don ' t find
25 them particularly helpful because of
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1 the number of clicks that it takes and
2 the lack of transparency in what it ' s
3 actually really about . It ' ll just have
4 a headline about an agenda and not much
5 more content . So I just encourage you
6 to consider the fact they have a lot of
7 existing channels of communication that
8 could just be improved . And you could
9 get your, as you considered getting
10 high schoolers and whatnot who have
11 skills , you could get volunteers to
12 help you with this . I ' d be happy to
13 send you screenshots . It ' s just a
14 matter of staying on top of it . I
15 mean, just for a minor example, this
16 Zoning Update page still invites people
17 to participate in the cell phone survey
18 across the banner at the top . When you
19 click on it, it says the survey is
20 closed, because of course it is , but
21 I ' m not sure why the banner inviting
22 participation is still up . Similarly,
23 like -- this has been something for
24 many years . Your guys ' agendas start
25 with the "Call to Order" at the right
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1 meeting time . But by the time you get
2 to Item 5 , discussion, it starts with
3 the work session at 9 : 00 . And I used
4 to find this baffling . I encourage you
5 guys to consider having a work session
6 agenda and a meeting agenda . I used to
7 call the Clerk ' s Office just when does
8 the Town Board meeting start because it
9 doesn ' t say work session in here . And
10 I just have always found it a little
11 confusing . So if you ' re going to be
12 making this effort to sort of
13 systematically improve communications ,
14 which I fully support, I would
15 encourage you to begin with just sort
16 of cleaning up what ' s already or
17 improving what you ' re already doing
18 because you do have channels that could
19 be more effective as they are . Thank
20 you .
21 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
22 you .
23 ERIC MCCLURE : Good evening . Eric
24 McClure , 435 West View Drive in
25 Mattituck . I was going to speak after
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1 the last Board Meeting during the
2 public comment session, but it was kind
3 of an emotional meeting with a lot
4 going on . And I felt that my noise
5 complaints sort of needed to take a
6 backseat .
7 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Were
8 drowned out?
9 ERIC MCCLURE : Yeah, to take a
10 back seat to the things that went on at
11 the last meeting . But I would have
12 been back here anyway, given what has
13 transpired the past couple of weeks in
14 the neighborhood noise-wise . I
15 e-mailed all of you on the Board
16 about -- I don ' t know, a couple of
17 hours ago . Since the last time I had
18 reached out by e-mail , I think was
19 July 8th, right after the 4th and July
20 weekend . The noise has just gotten
21 louder and more consistent coming from
22 Strong ' s Water Club in Windermere .
23 We ' ve had five nights a week of live
24 music since the 4th of July weekend .
25 Fortunately, that five nights a week
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1 ended with Labor Day weekend, but we ' re
2 still at four nights a week for, I
3 don ' t know how much longer . I ' m one of
4 the few people, I guess , who looks
5 forward to Fall and Winter around here
6 because it means that the restaurant ' s
7 going to shut down and we won ' t get
8 live music . I was actually going to
9 enlist my trusty assistant, a . k . a . , my
10 wife , somebody had lent us a big
11 portable speaker that I was going to
12 set up outside to just sort of
13 replicate what it ' s like to hear "Play
14 That Funky Music White Boy" at 65
15 decibels just outside the window when
16 you ' re trying to do something else .
17 But in the e-mail I sent you, there
18 were some screenshots of numerous
19 instances of recordings at our back
20 door of 70 decibels or higher . Our
21 back door is probably 100 feet from our
22 property line , so that ' s even a greater
23 remove from where the sound is
24 emanating from. I sent a couple
25 recordings that were especially
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1 egregious . I think the Sunday of Labor
2 Day weekend was the loudest I ' ve ever
3 heard it . And that ' s saying something
4 because they can be pretty loud . But
5 readings well into the 70 ' s . I took a
6 reading at Mayflower and Westview,
7 which is probably a quarter mile from
8 where we are that was almost 60
9 decibels that night . I actually went
10 out for a walk with noise-canceling
11 headphones on . It was that loud . And
12 I know that you guys have had
13 discussion about the ways to possibly
14 deal with this situation on a town-wide
15 basis . I really, really encourage you
16 to tackle that in the next few months
17 so that we and our neighbors don ' t have
18 to go through another Summer of this .
19 It ' s just, you know, it ' s 80 events .
20 It ' s five nights a week during the peak
21 Summer months and at a noise level that
22 is just, I looked at the Town Code and
23 it talked about things that a
24 reasonable person would consider . And
25 I think I ' m still a reasonable person .
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1 Sometimes I feel like I ' m getting
2 pushed to beyond reasonability by the
3 noise that comes from Strong ' s .
4 Supervisor Krupski , I think my next
5 door neighborhood reached out to you
6 last week after Labour Day weekend
7 because of the noise . She finally
8 gotten to a point where she felt she
9 had to speak out . And this is someone
10 who has not, because of professional
11 repercussions , it ' s known among people
12 that she works with that she has
13 complained to Strong ' s a number of
14 times about the noise, and she ' s gotten
15 pushback and ostracism around that .
16 She has a relative who works within the
17 Strongs ' organization that she ' s
18 concerned about the ramifications for
19 his employment . But she did reach out
20 last week just because it ' s gotten so
21 bad and so frequent that it really is a
22 problem that we implore you to try to
23 help us solve . And I think I had said
24 a while ago that I would reach out to
25 you about just sitting down in person .
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1 I have been neglectful of that, but I
2 will reach out this week to see if we
3 can schedule some time .
4 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Well ,
5 thank you for coming tonight .
6 ERIC MCCLURE : Thank you .
7 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Thank
8 you .
9 JOHN MARA: This is my sixth or
10 seventh year of complaining of the same
11 thing . I was here .
12 TOWN CLERK DENIS NONCARROW : Your
13 name , sir?
14 JOHN MARA: I ' ll get to that . I
15 was here last year, and I addressed
16 this Board . I ' m here again . My name
17 is John Mara . I live in Mattituck,
18 over by the high school . I ' ve lived
19 here for about 22 years , recently
20 retired cardiologist . And my home is
21 about more than a fourth of a mile from
22 what I call a public nuisance . And I ' m
23 here to talk about that public
24 nuisance, which is what Eric just
25 talked about, the noise from the water
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1 club, the Windermere Restaurant . And
2 despite talking to this Board last
3 year, who reassured me that they would
4 be revisited, it ' s become worse . The
5 noise is really worse . What I do when
6 I have guests over, we sit on the
7 porch, when the band starts playing, we
8 go inside, close all the doors and
9 windows , and turn the window air
10 conditioner on and sit there .
11 Otherwise, the -- Eric recorded at 76
12 decibels . It ' s really, really loud . I
13 Googled this today because what does 76
14 decibels mean? A freight train going
15 45 miles an hour has 83 decibels of
16 noise 100 feet away . That ' s how loud
17 it is . So I couldn ' t figure out why
18 the Board hasn ' t done nothing . I can ' t
19 figure it out . So what I did today is
20 I wanted to distribute this to the
21 Board . This is an aerial view of the
22 area with Windermere right in the
23 center . And you can see how densely
24 populated this is . It ' s a very densely
25 populated area . There must be hundreds
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1 of homes in that area . And, you know,
2 I can ' t figure out why my neighbors
3 aren ' t circulating a petition or doing
4 something . I think they must feel
5 intimidated or powerless or something .
6 I just can ' t figure that out . I mean,
7 Eric complained and I ' m complaining .
8 It ' s unbelievable . Anyway, so I went
9 over to the restaurant just to see
10 what ' s going on . And if any of you go
11 to that restaurant, you will see the
12 band playing outside on the grass with
13 large amplifiers . And I can tell you
14 that the patrons aren ' t that far away .
15 They don ' t really need amplified noise,
16 music . It ' s like the band is there and
17 the people are here . And I used to
18 play in a band in high school a long
19 time ago, but one reason why players
20 turn their amps up is because they want
21 their instrument to be heard . So you
22 crank up the amp so your instrument
23 will be heard over others and it
24 becomes really loud . And 80 decibels
25 is actually, from a physician point of
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1 view, anything above 80 can cause
2 permanent hearing loss . Close to 90 ,
3 actually . So a few years ago, I
4 started complaining about this to
5 Charlie Gooley, who was the
6 ex-president . Charlie was very
7 sympathetic and he spoke to Mr . Strong,
8 who said he ' s in no violation and the
9 band could continue . At the same time,
10 he said he wanted to be a good
11 neighbor . So I think the only way
12 around this is probably to issue
13 somewhat of a ban on outdoor amplified
14 noise . That might solve the problem.
15 I don ' t really think that amplifiers
16 are necessary at that club . You can go
17 for yourself and you will see that you
18 don ' t need amplifiers outside when
19 you ' re at a restaurant with tables .
20 Anyway, so I ' m calling this a public
21 nuisance . It ' s gone on for seven
22 years . It ' s getting worse . And before
23 that, it was a quiet place to live and
24 entertain guests or sit outside or read
25 books or something . But now it ' s
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1 become terrible . It ' s interfering with
2 the quality of our life . And I rely on
3 all of you to help with the quality of
4 life here in Mattituck because it just
5 shouldn ' t happen . Maybe you don ' t
6 realize how densely populated the area
7 is . I mean, I live there more than a
8 quarter mile away, and I don ' t like
9 having to go inside with my guests and
10 turn on the air conditioner, window air
11 conditioner, and shut the windows and
12 doors every single night, four or five
13 nights a week . It ' s become quite a
14 problem . So can I give this to the
15 board members ?
16 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Please
17 give it to the clerk . Thank you .
18 JOHN MARA: Yeah . Maybe we don ' t
19 realize how populated this area really
20 is . I don ' t know . I can ' t think of
21 anything else other than that . So
22 this , in my opinion, fulfills the
23 definition of a public nuisance . It
24 really is a public nuisance . And I
25 think the Board should address this
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1 problem and really revisit the noise
2 complaint and do something . In my
3 opinion, it ' d be to restrict amplified
4 outdoor noise . Music, that is . Thank
5 you .
6 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
7 you .
8 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Thank
9 you .
10 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : Thank
11 you .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Would
13 anyone else like to address the Board?
14 ROBERT DUNN : Robert Dunn,
15 Peconic . They want to do business in
16 our Town . They got to respect us . And
17 it ' s that simple . And if they ' re not
18 respecting, then somebody ' s not doing
19 their job if they ' re allowed to
20 continue with that behavior . It goes
21 beyond them now because that whole Town
22 has been informed . I ' ve sat here week
23 after week listening to -- and I wasn ' t
24 even going to talk about this , but I ' m
25 just listening to these guys . And
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1 that ' s just horrible . People shouldn ' t
2 have to live with that . And Southold
3 Town says you don ' t . Gonna give him a
4 break on his taxes ? Going to give him
5 a break on his taxes ? He ' s got to pay
6 his taxes . Well , Southold Town ' s got
7 to enforce the rules . Whether it ' s a
8 cop, whether it ' s going to the FLA and
9 telling you want to pull back his
10 liquor license, whether it ' s a letter
11 saying you ' re going to do that, correct
12 this . Because it ' s not fair to the
13 people who just -- case closed . Not
14 fair . That ' s disgusting . Okay . Back
15 to the website . Mr . Noncarrow, what
16 this lady said, I ' m agreeing . As I
17 told you today, I was looking, I was
18 trying to listen to the work session,
19 and it wouldn ' t open . It just wouldn ' t
20 open . Over and over and over again, I
21 did it . And I ' ve done this a hundred
22 times when I ' ve listened to meetings on
23 a website . Well , it turns out you were
24 in an Executive Session . But the
25 computer didn ' t know that . So it just
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1 said you can ' t come in . It didn ' t say
2 we ' re not open . It said you can ' t come
3 in . And just to get there , I used to
4 find getting around the old website
5 very easy . I mean, I learned . And it
6 was . This new website is a lot more
7 difficult . So it throws you out a
8 whole bunch of information you ' re not
9 looking for when you want it, and it
10 makes it harder to find what you are
11 looking for directly .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
13 you .
14 ROBERT DUNN : That ' s it .
15 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
16 you .
17 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY :
18 That ' ll be --
19 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Yeah,
20 go right ahead .
21 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I just
22 wanted to -- thank you . So the way we
23 have this , and it needs to be changed,
24 I believe, is each department goes to
25 IT and says , put this on . Put this on .
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1 You know, the Town Clerk doesn ' t do the
2 Zooms for the Town Board, but when we
3 set a Zoom, it ' s blocked out for that
4 day . I don ' t know . I mean, there ' s
5 got to be a way to say this Zoom will
6 start at this time . But at the same
7 time , we don ' t know when we ' re going to
8 exactly start, you know, because we
9 don ' t know when we ' re done with the
10 exact . So there ' s a lot of variables ,
11 but I think we can get much better at
12 it .
13 ROBERT DUNN : If you ' re in
14 Executive Session, you ' re not sending
15 it out . Right . But if you don ' t send
16 something out, it should be a
17 notification there .
18 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Yeah,
19 it should be a notification . It
20 shouldn ' t be the ones that transmit it .
21 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Zoom.
22 ROBERT DUNN : Zoom. It shouldn ' t
23 be Zoom telling me nothing .
24 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Right,
25 right .
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1 ROBERT DUNN : It ' s just Zoom
2 saying, give me your name and password .
3 You give my name and password and comes
4 back . Give me your name and password .
5 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Right . You
6 know -- yeah, I ' ve gone on Zoom
7 meetings in this Town and other places ,
8 and I ' ve come across the same thing .
9 There ' s no, it ' s like, and I have to go
10 check my e-mail . I thought this
11 started at this time . And it ' s sure
12 enough, it does . But then there was
13 postponement . But I don ' t know if
14 there ' s a way that Zoom -- that you can
15 go on Zoom and say it starts here or
16 there .
17 ROBERT DUNN : I don ' t know . Maybe
18 you can ' t do what I ' m saying .
19 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Right,
20 right .
21 ROBERT DUNN : But the reality is
22 everybody should understand then that
23 that ' s a weak point .
24 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Yeah .
25 ROBERT DUNN : And very confusing
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1 to people who were trying to use it,
2 particularly me, because I use the
3 website all the time and I ' ve never had
4 trouble with it . Now you got a new
5 one . I understand I got to go through
6 a bit of a learning curve there . You
7 know, but just you should be aware of
8 that .
9 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : And part of
10 our issues are when -- whoever ' s in
11 charge, department heads are in charge
12 of different things , it ' s up to them to
13 notify IT to change something . And a
14 lot of times that ' s a low priority
15 because these department heads are very
16 busy . So we have to come up with a
17 better way of facilitating that
18 communication for sure .
19 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : So
20 then that ' ll be easier to solve than
21 trying to enforce the noise ordinance .
22 I ' m going to ask our Town Attorney,
23 because when I did get that other
24 complaint last week, I did submit it to
25 Town Attorney to have Code Enforcement
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1 take a look at it . I don ' t know if
2 there ' s any progress made .
3 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE : The
4 Code Enforcement employees did appear
5 at that premises . This has been an
6 ongoing, as you all know, because
7 you ' ve all been here for many years
8 about it . Mr . McClure , you know that
9 we ' ve had the owner of that
10 establishment and their lessee in the
11 office in an attempt to bring their
12 conduct within what we all would
13 consider to be reasonable . And we
14 obviously have not achieved that yet .
15 That may come with crafting new code .
16 It may come with a different style of
17 enforcement . The period of attempting
18 to regulate noise through a decibel
19 meter is , well , it may have been
20 popular at one point, is no longer
21 because , as you know, having a decibel
22 meter, you ' re constantly forced to
23 recalibrate them . And you have to
24 prove that recalibration during a
25 trial . You know that ' s been an
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1 obstacle for us since Day 1 . But there
2 are also other aspects of the current
3 code that we have looked at that we can
4 use in an effort to tone this conduct
5 down . And if need be, I ' ve heard that
6 the Board indicate an openness to
7 looking at the code again in an attempt
8 to resolve it in a different way .
9 ROBERT DUNN : I don ' t know because
10 I haven ' t had a reason to go there yet
11 how the new website defines it . But on
12 the old website, the word "trespass "
13 was used . And if your noise trespassed
14 on my property, it was a problem.
15 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Other
16 communities look at it that way . So
17 we ' re certainly looking at other ways
18 that we can see it .
19 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE : And
20 certainly, I heard a very good
21 suggestion this evening from the
22 gentleman that spoke . There ' s a
23 difference between outdoor music that ' s
24 ambient and outdoor music that ' s
25 amplified . And maybe it ' s the
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1 amplification that needs to be looked
2 at closer .
3 ROBERT DUNN : I don ' t think
4 anybody would have a problem with
5 someone strumming on a guitar . But
6 when they plug that guitar into
7 five-foot speakers , it ' s a whole
8 different thing for a bother . No
9 bigger than this . Come on .
10 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
11 you . I do have someone on Zoom, if you
12 could -- Amy, if you could let them in
13 for .
14 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . :
15 Welcome , Yvonne .
16 YVONNE GREEN : Thank you . Good
17 afternoon . My name is Yvonne Green,
18 and I ' m the Director of Facilities for
19 Long Island Head Start . And I wanted
20 to ask about a building permit
21 application that was submitted on our
22 behalf back on -- what was the date
23 here ? It was on, I believe it was July
24 17th . Yes , July . I ' m sorry, July
25 16th .
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1 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE : So,
2 Ms . Green, I ' m not from -- Paul
3 DeChance, Town Attorney . I ' m not
4 familiar with that application . I
5 would be more than happy to speak with
6 the Building Department about it . If
7 you would like to give me your number,
8 I could give you my office number .
9 Maybe we could talk during the week,
10 tomorrow, anytime you ' d like , and I
11 could find some information out for
12 you .
13 YVONNE GREEN : That would be
14 great . Thank you . Yeah, I give you my
15 cell number . Whenever you ' re ready?
16 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE :
17 Well , I ' m by saying it now, you ' re
18 actually advertising it to everybody .
19 So would you like my office number
20 instead?
21 YVONNE GREEN : Yes .
22 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE : All
23 right . So it ' s you can reach me at
24 631-765-1939 .
25 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . :
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1 Everybody knows your number now .
2 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE : My
3 e-mail address for the town is just
4 Paul D, P-A-U-L-D as in David at
5 southoldtownny . gov .
6 YVONNE GREEN : Okay, got it .
7 Thank you .
8 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE : I
9 look forward to talking with you .
10 Thank you .
11 YVONNE GREEN : Same here .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
13 you . Have a good night .
14 YVONNE GREEN : You as well .
15 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . :
16 There ' s no one else .
17 ROBERT DUNN : I think I wanted to
18 talk about it . I forgot about it .
19 Well , I know there is a decision was
20 made for Goldsmiths not to put any
21 people in . There was nobody there this
22 Summer .
23 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Oh, a
24 beach attendant?
25 ROBERT DUNN : Beach attendants .
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1 And I ' m fine with that .
2 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : I
3 don ' t think the Town ' s ever had a
4 lifeguard or a beach attendant, no --
5 ROBERT DUNN : It ' s never a
6 lifeguard . Technically, you can ' t swim
7 there . It ' s not a bathing beach . It ' s
8 a beach . You know, what happens is ,
9 the lowlife ' s who do this , they find a
10 way and they ' ll find out it ' s there,
11 and they ' ll go there and they ' ll all be
12 there . So you need very strict
13 enforcement, if you ' re not going to
14 have beach attendants . That ' s got to
15 be a focus .
16 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : -- really
17 this gentleman that worked there, but
18 he no longer works for us . Too bad we
19 can ' t get him back .
20 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Well ,
21 we --
22 ROBERT DUNN : He never made a
23 nickel there .
24 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Everything
25 he was volunteer . That ' s right .
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1 ROBERT DUNN : Everything he made
2 went to CAST .
3 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : We are
4 committed to send officers around . And
5 so if there is a problem, you can
6 always call them .
7 ROBERT DUNN : But they don ' t have
8 to handle -- they don ' t need to handle
9 the other beaches like they need to
10 handle Goldsmith because Goldsmith
11 doesn ' t have attendants .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : No, I
13 understand that . But I mean, we have a
14 lot of other public properties that
15 they patrol also --
16 ROBERT DUNN : Absolutely . But I
17 can only tell you, if this can -- this
18 was the first time we did this in four
19 or five years now . And I ' m for it
20 because I really think paying two kids
21 there, it ' s got to, by the time you get
22 finished, it ' s got to be near $ 30 an
23 hour . Higher?
24 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Oh,
25 gosh, yes .
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1 ROBERT DUNN : Okay . Well , they ' re
2 getting minimum wage, but I don ' t know
3 what it is . I don ' t really care . It ' s
4 a lot of money . No matter how you
5 twist it . For two days and on a three
6 day weekend, you could be talking about
7 $ 1 , 000 . So, I mean, you could be
8 talking $ 10 , 000 , $ 15 , 000 . Maybe
9 $20 , 000 down there for the Summer . And
10 that ' s a lot of money for 10 legitimate
11 people to sit on a beach . So going
12 after them -- Because what I ' m saying
13 is , if you don ' t correct it there, that
14 trickles out . I mean, you guys all
15 grew up out here .
16 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : No, we
17 know, and we try to take action . The
18 Police Department does a good job of
19 getting around . They have the seasonal
20 employees that go around .
21 ROBERT DUNN : They come down, but
22 I ' m saying it needs to be a true focus
23 and giving out the tickets . And I tell
24 you, the other thing is you might raise
25 the price of the ticket . Anybody who
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1 doesn ' t like to pay a ticket doesn ' t
2 have to . They have a choice . They
3 make the choice . So you can make a
4 choice . And why shouldn ' t it be $ 100
5 or $ 125 ? I don ' t want you here . If
6 you want to come here, go to Town Hall ,
7 get a sticker, and you can come here
8 all you want .
9 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
10 you . All right .
11 JOHN MARA: I just thought of one
12 more thing . What if I invited a band
13 to come to my backyard and practice
14 every single night until 10 o ' clock at
15 night? What if I did that? Loud with
16 amplifiers .
17 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : You would
18 get shut down .
19 JOHN MARA: I ' d be shut down . So
20 why does an establishment, because it ' s
21 a restaurant? Why are they able to do
22 it? Does the Board favor money in
23 establishments over private enterprise?
24 I don ' t know . So I just thought of
25 that . By the way, this does go till
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1 9 : 30 or 10 o ' clock at night . I ' ve
2 documented that . So a lot of people
3 like to go to bed earlier than that .
4 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
5 you . There ' s no other comment .
6 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I ' ll
7 make a motion to adjourn .
8 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Second .
9 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : All in
10 favor?
11 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Aye .
12 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye .
13 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye .
14 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : Aye .
15 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Aye .
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