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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
MARCH 30, 1999
WORK SESSION
Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran, Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie, Justice
Louisa P. Evans, Councilman William D. Moore, Councilman John M. Romanelli,
Councilman Brian G. Murphy, Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville, Town Attorney
Gregory F. Yakaboski.
9:12 A.M. - The Town Board reviewed IV. For Discussion Items. IV. 1.
Additional Space, Town Hall. The majority of the Town Board was of the
opinion that the best solution would be to renovate and add on to the present
Town Hall. Justice Evans asked about the Peconic School. Supervisor Cochran
advised that she has already inquired and that it is not available. The school
district does not wish to sell it. Councilwoman Hussie was of the opinion that
as a temporary measure, while the renovation and expansion of Town Hall is
taking place, office space should be rented at Feather Hill. . The cost would
be $1 .00 per square foot, $700.00 a month for the unit on Traveler Street
(formerly Ink Spot Printing) . Councilman Romanelli suggested hiring an
architect. Councilman Murphy said that the Space Study from 1996 recommended
engaging the services of an architect to determine the best possible options of
expansion. Requests for proposals for the expansion of Town Hall will be
sought in the near future. IV. 2. Limit of five (5) hours per week for committee
work. Councilman suggested paying a annual flat fee for committee work
regardless of the number of hours worked. The Board did not think the union
would approve of that. The Board will conduct a data gathering on the number
of committees and boards and secretaries, number of meetings and hours worked
and make a policy decision in the future. In the interim a resolution will be
adopted making an exception in order to pay Joyce Wilkins, the Secretary of the
Land Preservation Committee, for hours worked in January and February. (See
Resolution No. 26). IV. 3. Skateboarding Ramp on Fishers Island. The Town
Board gave their approval to use Town Property for a skateboarding ramp on
Fishers Island. IV. 4. Request of Steve Jones for information outreach. The
Town Board engaged the services of the Suffolk County Department of Planning
to give them a report for a fee. The Town Board will not give their approval
for any public information meetings, until such time as the plan is formally
presented to them first. IV. 5. Proposal to reduce the price of grass clippings
at the landfill. Councilwoman Hussie advised that the DEC has given their
approval to add it to the composting. It will give a better end product. (See
Resolution No. 27). IV. 6. Downs Farm Preserve/Fort Corchaug Advisory
Committee. Supervisor Cochran advised that the "Friends of Fort Corchaug"
have asked Jim Grathwohl to chair their committee. This would be an advisory
committee and a fund raising group. One trail has been completed and they are
working on the second one. The building will be made an information center and
restrooms. Supervisor Cochran will call Tim Caufield to come back to give a
report, and she will talk to Jim Grathwohl to see where they are going with the
committee. IV. 7. Salary Structure, Data Processing Entry Operator. This will
be discussed later on in Executive Session.- IV. 8. HVAC Report for Town
Hall. Specifications were not yet prepared for the Town Hall. However, they
were ready for the records vault and storage rooms. The Town Board
authorized the Town Clerk to go to bid, subject to the approval of the
specifications by the Town Engineer. IV. 9 Mandate Reform. Letter was
received from the Business Mandate Reform. An inquiry was made to the New
York State Association of Towns regarding this item. Mr. Crawford returned
the call and said that this letter is merely a press release and that it does not
necessitate a resolution at this time. He suggested sending a letter of support
and asking them to keep us informed. IV. 1.0.' Application for alcgholic beverage
retail license. Stirling Harbor Marina has applied for a liquor license to serve
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drinks by their pool The Town Board has no objections. IV. 11. East-West
Fire Protection District contract. This matter will be discussed in Executive
Session later on. Supervisor Cochran advised that the Southold Fire Department
is seeking permission to use the Whitaker/Thompson house next door for "Search
and Rescue Training". .They will invite the other fire departments to take part
in it. They promise no water or other damage of any type and will provide the
Town with proof of insurance.
10:05 A.M. - The Town Board reviewed resolution numbers 1 through 25 to be
voted upon at the 7:30 P.M. regular meeting. A SEQR review was added to
precede resolution number 13. (See Resolutions 13A & 13B.)
Supervisor Cochran advised that the New York State Department of
Transportation will be doing a lot of highway work on Route 25 over the three
year period. They will be notifying the business as to what will be going on in
the near future. There will be a public hearing on May 12, 1999 to present the
plan to the businesses.
On motion by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold enter into Executive
Session at 10:30 A.M. for the purpose of discussing litigation, contract
negotiations, property acquisition, and personnel. Vote of the Town Board:
Ayes: Councilman Moore, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Murphy, Justice
Evans, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. Also present: Town Clerk
Elizabeth Neville, Town Attorney Gregory Yakaboski.
A short recess was called at this time.
10:50 P.M. - Assessors Scott Russell and Robert Scott appeared before the Town
Board to talk about a problem they are having with the Suffolk County
Legislature. Last year they passed a law called the "Truth in Accuracy and
Clarification of Tax Bills". This law says that the town must break out the
charge back on the bill. However, the New York State Department of
Equalization and Taxation says that we don't have the authority to do this. The.
Assessors said that they would be happy to list the information on the tax rate
sheet, but the county says that they want it on the bill. The county has
informed them that they are planning to withhold all Farmland monies, if the
Town of Southold doesn't print this information on the tax bill, and that they
also will pursue action for litigation. Supervisor Cochran said that she will
call Frank Petrone, Head of the Ten Town Supervisors Association and ask him
to call a meeting with regard to this. A resolution calling for the abolition of
the County Legislature has been proposed. Assessor Scott Russell will be
attending a meeting next Thursday at 9:30 A.M. at the Riverhead Best Western
on this matter of the tax bill charge backs, and report back to the Board in the
future.
11 :25 P.M. the Town Board entered into the Executive Session as called for in
the previous resolution.
This Executive Session ended at 1 :25 P.M.
1 :30 P.M. - Appointment with members of the Mattituck Chamber of Commerce
asking the Town Board for help in applying for grant funds to the County,
State, or Federal government. Last year this group came to the Town and
submitted a request for $15,000.00 of Community Development Block Grant funds,
but they were turned .down because Mattituck was too affluent a community to
qualify for this type of funding. The Town Board advised them that the T21
Proposal deadline has been extended to 7/1/99 and that they will assist their
group in applying for funding through Grant Administrator Jim McMahon. The
Chamber group was recently advised by Senator. LAValle's office that they will be
receiving $8,000.00 in funding for a new baskgtball court at the Veterans Beach
Park off Peconic Bay; Boulevard,.. Mattituck. Councilwoman Hussie asked the
group if they have applied for BID Improvement District funding. Eric Crook
said that they had not yet, but will probably in the future. They are going to
need upkeep and maintenance funding in the future. They were advised that
matching - in-kind services can be used as leverage for funding in matching
grants. They questioned how to apply for Main Street U.S.A. grant funding.
Supervisor Cochran advised them ,that she thinks their efforts and; enthusiasm is
wonderful and the Town will try to help them all they can. Although, it may
not necessarily be in money, perhaps in in-kind services.
On motion by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Murphy it was
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold enter into Executive
Session at 2:30 P.M. for the purpose of discussing litigation. Ayes: Councilman
Moore, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Murphy, Justice Evans, Councilwoman
Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. Also present: Town Clerk Elizabeth Neville and
Town Attorney Gregory .Yakaboski.
Work Session and Executive Session ended at 3:35.
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REGULAR MEETING
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on March
30, 1999, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Supervisor Cochran opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag.
Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran
Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie
Justice Louisa P. Evans
Councilman William D. Moore
Councilman John M. Romanelli
Councilman Brian G. Murphy
Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville
Town Attorney Gregory F. Yakaboski
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: May I have a motion to approve the audit of bills
of March 30, 1999?
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the following bills be and hereby are ordered paid:
General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $65,376.10; General Fund
Part Town bills in the amount of $1,,223.01; Highway Fund Whole Town bills
in the amount of $12,328.44; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the amount
of $3,133.31; Capital Projects Account bills in the amount of $2,250.36;
Ag Land Development Rights bills in the amount of $337,831 .51; Landfill
Cap and Closure bills in the amount of $15,204.25; Open Space Capital Fund
bills in the amount of $306.72; Computer System Upgrade bills in the
amount of $8,765.90; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of
$45,689.29;Refuse 8 Garbage District bills in the amount of $18,688.71;
Southold Wastewater District bills in the amount of $513.76; Fishers
Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $167.98.
Vote of the - Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Approval of the minutes of March 16, 1999, Town
Board meeting.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the March 16, 1999, Town Board meeting
be and hereby are approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: To set the date of the next Town Board meeting
for Tuesday, April 13, 1999, at 4:30 P.M.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the next meeting. of the Southold Town Board will be held
at 4:30 ;P.M., Tuesday, April 13, 1999, at the Southold Town Hall,
Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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I. REPORTS.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you know each month we receive reports from
the different departments, and the different committees, and this month's
report include the Island Group Administration Claim Lag Report, Building
Department, Personnel Leave Summary, Island Group Administration, North
Fork Animal Welfare League, and Justice Court from Evan. These are on
file with the Town Clerk. It is public information, so if anyone would like
any of this information, please, feel free to come into the Town Clerk's
Office, and it will be made available to you.
1 . Island Group Administration, Inc. Claim Lag Report for March 1998
through February 1999.
2. Southold Town Building Department Monthly Report for February, 1999.
3. Personnel Leave Summary for February, 1999.
4. Island Group Administration, Inc. Procedure Frequency Report for
January, 1999.
5. North Fork Animal Welfare League Shelter Report for February, 1999.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Under Public Notices, we have the notice of the
Spring Leaf and Brush Clean-up, April 19 to the 23. If you have any
questions you can call 765-3140. The times and the areas are listed in the
local newspapers, and things are under way in that area. We, also, got a
application from the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation in relation to an application by Matt-A-Mar Marina in
Mattituck. Also, the US Corp of Engineers have-received an application to
install a swim raft in Orient.
1 . Southold Town Highway Department Notice of Spring Leaf and Brush
Clean-Up on April 19 - April 23, 1999.
2, New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Notice of
Complete Application of Matt-A-Marr marina to construct bulkhead seaward
of existing bulkhead and backfill with sand at Mattituck Inlet, Wickham
Avenue, Town of Southold. Written comments to be received by April 16,
1999
III. COMMUNICATIONS.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As far as communications are concerned, we had
a thank you note from Our Lady of Mercy School, their fourth grade, and
also, a letter from Jeffrey Haber, who is the Executive Director of the
Association of Towns.
1 . Our Lady of Mercy School 4th Grade Class complimenting the
landfill employees.
2. C. Jeffry Haber, the Association of Town, thanking Supervisor
Cochran for acting as presiding officer and moderator at 1999 Training
School and Annual Meeting.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS. None.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you know the Town Board has a policy that
we invite you to . address any of the resolutions before they are passed
upon. If you have any other Town business, that does not relate to
resolutions we would be very happy to entertain your comments at the end
of the meeting. At this time is there anyone that would like to address any
of the resolutions on for action this evening? (No response.) Anyone like
to address the Town ,Board in relation to the, resolutions? If not, number
one.
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1 .-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVE& that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the General Fund Part Town 1999 budget as follows:
To:
B.3620.4.600.100 Radio Airtime $ 975.00
From
B.1990.4.100.100 Contingency $ 975.00
1 -Vote of the Town ' Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
2.-Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the General Fund Part Town 1999 Budget as follows:
To:
B.3620.4.200.100 Radio Equipment $ 1,074.00
From:
B.1990.4.100.100 Contingency $ 1,074.00
2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
3.-Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded. by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs the Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville to advertise for
Beach Attendants, Beach Manager, Lifeguards, Water Safety Instructors,
and Playground Instructors.
3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
4.-Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute an agreement
with Rosemary Martilotta for Yoga Classes for the Spring 1999 Recreation
Programs at a cost of $50.00 per class, all in accordance with the approval
of the Town Attorney.
4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
5.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
RESCINDS RESOLUTIONS NO. 15 OF THE MARCH 16, 1999 Southold Town
Board Meeting, which resolution reads as follows:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town 'of Southold hereby
appoints Ann Kudlinski as a Senior Aide under the Suffolk County
Senior Employment Title V Program, to work 20 hours per week, at
a salary of $5.15 per hour, effective April 5, 1999.
5.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
6.- Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board. of the. Town of Southold hereby sponsors
Ann Kudlinski as a Senior Aide under; .. the Suffolk County Senior
Employment Title V Program, to be paid through the Suffolk County Office
for the ASling, effective April 5, 1999.
6.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli; Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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7.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the General Fund Part Town 1998 budget as follows:
To:
B.8010.4.600.300 Miscellaneous, Travel $ 60.00
From:
B.8010.1 .200.100 Personal Services, Part-Time $ 60.00
7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
8.-Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission tot he Southold Village Merchants Croup to use the Municipal
Parking Field on the south side of New York State Route 25, Southold for
their 4th Annual Craft Fair, on Saturday, May 29, 1999, from 6:00 A.M.
to 6:00 P.M., provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar
Certificate of Liability Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an
additional insured.
B.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
9.-Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts
the bid of H.O. Penn Machinery Company, ' Inc. for. One (1) Used
Articulated Off-Road Truck, at a price of $128,801 .00, all in accordance
with bid specifications and the approval of the Town Attorney.
9.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
10.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the establishment of the following Capital Project in the in the
1998 Capital Budget:
Capital Project Name: Vault Environmental Improvements
Financing Method:
Transfer from the General Fund and a New York State Grant
Budget: Revenues
H.3089.30 State Aid $ 24,200
H.5031 .20 Transfers from Other Funds 24,200
Appropriations
H.1620.2.300.100 Buildings E Grounds
Capital Outlay
Contracted Services
Vault Improvements $ 48,400
10.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
11 .-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article IX of the Constitution, the town
Board of the Town of Southold requests the enactment of Senate Bill
No.S.2760 and Assembly Bill No. A.4883, entitled "AN ACT to amend
Chapter 246 of the laws of 1.916 relating to the extermination of mosquitoes
and establishment of -district therefore, in relation to authorization for
the amount of the annual appropriation by . the Town of Southold for the
Orient Mosquito District." It is hereby declared that a necessity exists
for the enactment of such legislation, whereas the Town Board does not
have the power to enact such legislation by local law.
11 .-Vote of ' the Town . Board: , Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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12A.-Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby agrees
to participate in the New York State Environmental Facilities Corporation,
1996 Clean Water/Clean Air Bond Act Program called the Financial
Assistance to Business .(FAB) Dry Cleaner Program; and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold
hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute any
and all necessary documents in relation to the application to the New York
State Environmental Facilities Corporation "Financial Assistance to Business
Dry Cleaner Program".
12A,Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
12B.7Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Murphy,
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION IN THE
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO BUSINESS PROGRAM AND THE
FILING 'OF AN APPLICATION WITH THE NEW YORK STATE
ENVIRONMENTAL FACILITIES CORPORATION.
WHEREAS, PURSUANT TO THE Clean Water/Clean Air Bond Act of 1996,
being Chapter 413 of the Laws of New York of 1996, the New York State
Environmental Facilities Corporation (the "Corporation") through the
Financial Assistance to Business Program (the "FAB Program) is
authorized to provide state assistance to villages, towns, and cities with a
population of less than one million, for small business environmental
compliance assistance projects which enhance the quality of the air or
waters of the State through compliance with environmental laws and
regulations, or to remedy or prevent environmental deficiencies; and
WHEREAS, the governing body of the Town of Southold (hereinafter, the
"Municipality"), after due consideration, has determined that participation
in the FAB Program is desirable and in the public interest:
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE
MUNICIPALITY AS FOLLOWS:
1 . The filing of an application, or applications, with the Corporation for
financial assistance under the FAB Program in the form required by
the Corporation is hereby authorized, including all understandings and
assurances contained in said application.
2. The individual holding the following office is directed and authorized
as the official representative of the Municipality to identify entities
that will participate in the FAB Program, to execute and deliver said
application(s), to execute and deliver any other documents necessary
for participation in the FAB Program, to provided such additional
information as may be required, and to take all actions on behalf of the
Municipality as may be required in order to effectuate the intent and
purpose of this resolution: James McMahon, Executive Assistant.
3. The Corporation is hereby authorized, on behalf of the Municipality to
deliver payments made pursuant to the FAB Program directly to the
entities identified above, or such further entities as may from time to
time be named by the individual identified in paragraph 2 above.
4 A certified copy of this resolution shall be prepared and delivered to
the Corporation as part of said application.
5. This resolution shall take effect immediately.
12B.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
13A.-Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Moore,
WHEREAS, -the Town Board is considering. entering into an agreement
with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Natural Resources Conservation
Service, as part of the Mar:rtooka . Lake Wildlife Habitat incentives
Program; therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares
this to be a Type II Action pursuant to the SEQRA Rules and Regulations
set forth .in 6NYCRR, Section 617.5 (c)'(6) and Chapter 44 of the Town
Code of the Town of Southold. .
13A.-Vote of . the Town• Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, . Justice Evans, Councilwoman. Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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13B.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute an agreement
with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Natural Resources Conservation
Service, as part of the Marratooka Lake Wildlife Habitat Incentives
Program.
13B.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
14.- Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute agreements
between the Town of Southold and Lighthouse Security, Inc. for the Annual
Service Contract and Annual Station Monitoring Contract, effective April 23,
1999 to April 23, 2000, all in accordance with the approval of the Town
Attorney.
14.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
15.- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the 1998 Employee Health Plan budget as follows:
To:
Revenues
MS.5990 Appropriated Fund Balance $ 75,000.00
Appropriations
MS.9060.8.000.000 Medical Benefits $ 75,000.00
15.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
16.- Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the General Fund Whole town 1999 budget as follows:
To:
A.1010.4.600.700 Town Board, C.E.
Miscellaneous
Transportation Committee $ 1,000.00
A.1640.4.400.650 Central Garage,. C.E.
Contracted Services
Vehicle Maintenance 8 Repairs 2,300.00
From:
A.1990.4.100.100 Contingent, C.E.
Unallocated Contingencies $ 3,300.00
16.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
17.- Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the General Fund Whole Town 1999 budget as follows:
To:
Revenues:
A.2680 Insurance Recoveries $ 1,583. 18
Appropriations:
A.3120.4.400.650 Vehicle Maintenance & Repairs $ 1,583.18
17.-Vote of ' the Town . Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans.., Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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18.-Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
establishes a Capital Reserve Fund for the 20 Land Transfer Tax authorized
by Chapter 6 by the Town Code of the Town of Southold entitled
Community Preservation Fund and , approved by the voters of the Town in
November of 1998.
18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman . Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
19.-Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute an agreement
between the Town of Southold and Sidney B. Bowne & son LLP,
Consulting Engineers to provide assistance to the Town for construction
phase services for the Peconic Landing Project.
19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
20.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville to attend the New York State
Town Clerks Association at Syracuse, New York on April 24-28, 1999, and
the necessary expenses for registration, transportation, meals and shall be
a legal charge to the Town Clerk's budget.
20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
21 .-Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Moore,
WHEREAS, the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry
District wishes to engage the services of an . addition part-time deckhand;
and
WHEREAS, Charles M. LaCour, 60 Shore Road, Waterford,
Connecticut 06385 has made application and is known to be an experienced
seaman and vessel operator; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
Charles M. LaCour as a part-time deckhand for the Fishers Island
Ferry District, at a salary' of $8.50 per hour, effective March 25, 1999.
21 .-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
22.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans,
WHEREAS, the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry
District wishes to adjust the salary and/or wage rates of full-time
personnel for the 1999 calendar year; therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby increases
the salary and/or wage rate of the following employees of the Fishers Island
Ferry District by 3%, effectively January 1, 1999:
Frederick Barrett Robert Knauff
Charles Burgess Jesse Marshall .
Stephen Burke Kevin Moroney ,..
Mark Easter lone Norton
Paul Foley . .Sean O'Meara
Richard Hoch ;Victoria Orr
Timothy Keating Kenneth Ricker
22.-Vote of the Town ' Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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23.- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute an EISEP contract extension between
the County of Suffolk, Office for the Aging for a one (1) month period
from April 1, 1999 to- April 30, 1999.
23.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
24.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Moore,
WHEREAS, Bill No. A33 provides for legislation which would expand the
scope of items included under the Municipal Prior Written Notice Provision;
and
WHEREAS, it is vitally important to municipalities such as the Town of
Southold that Prior Notice Laws be expanded to include all types of
municipal-owned property; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby requests
that Senator Kenneth LaValle and Assemblywoman Patricia Acampora join
with Assemblyman William L. Parment as a sponsor for this bill.
24.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
25.- Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies
the General Fund Whole town 1999 budget as follows;,,;
To
A.9901 .9.000.100 Transfers to Other Funds
Transfers to Capital Fund $ 100,000.00
From
A.9710.6.000.000 Serial Bond
Principal $ 80,000.00
A.9710.7.000.00 Serial Bond
Interest 20,000.00
25.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
26.- Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby makes an
exception in the limitation of committee work hours for Joyce Wilkins
allowing her to work more than five (5) hours per week for the Land
Preservation Committee during the months of January and February 1999.
26.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice ,Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
27.- Moved -by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby waives
the fee for loose grass clippings taken into the Southold Town Disposal
Area by both residents and contractors, effective immediately. Bagged
grass clippings will continue to be accepted at three and a half cents $.035
per pound. '
COUNCILMAN HUSSIE: Let me give you an explanation of this,. At the
last Solid Waste Task , Force meeting it was suggested that the addition of
grass clippings to our Ag-Bag- compost making ,system would improve the
quality of the product the end product. The; DEC has given us permission
to do that. The amount of grass clippings that we ordinarily take in is just
about the right ratio to be mixed - the leaves and brush, so we decided that
we would .do this. It would be'a good thing. 1. Sound like Martha Stewart.
27.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli,' Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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28.-Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs the Town Clerk Elizabeth Neville to advertise for
bids for the improvements to the heating, ventilating, and air conditioning
in the Records Vault and Storage rooms in the Office of the Town Clerk.
28.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly, ADOPTED.
29.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to the Southold Fire Department to use the Whitaker/Thompson
House located next door at 52875 Main road, Southold, for "Search and
Rescue Training" provided there is no water or other damage to the
building, and that they file with the Town Clerk a Certificate of Liability
Insurance in the amount of One Million Dollars.
29.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
30.-Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to Personnel Assistant Barbara Rudder and Senior Citizen
Program Supervisor Karen McLaughlin to attend the 1999 Regional Loss
Control Conference on Tuesday, April 6, 1999 at the Milleridge Inn,
Jericho, New York.
30.-Vote of the Town Board: . Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
.This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I would like to present the next resolution.
31 .-Moved by Supervisor Cochran, seconded by Councilman Moore,
WHEREAS, the Suffolk County Legislature has adopted Resolution No.
256-1999 entitle "ADOPTING A LOCAL LAW TO IMPLEMENT THE COUNTY'S
TRUTH AND ACCURACY IN PROPERTY TAX BILLING POLICY" and
WHEREAS, this County law, if enacted, makes any Town in Suffolk
County ineligible for receipt of any form of financial aid or assistance
from the County including the transfers of real property; and
WHEREAS, this Local Law is before Suffolk County Executive Gaffney
for signing; and
WHEREAS, Robert J. Gaffney vetoed a similar resolution #256-1998 last
April because of known legal defects;
WHEREAS, the known legal defects have not been corrected; and
WHEREAS, if enacted this defective Local Law would severely impact the
County and Town's Open Space and Farmland Development Rights Program;
WHEREAS, the Town of Southold recognizes that the Suffolk County
Executive strongly supports the County and Town's Open Space and
Farmland Development Rights Programs; now, therefore be it
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the Town
hereby requests Suffolk County Executive Robert J. Gaffney to veto
resolution #256-1999.
COUNCILMAN MOORE: The County does some dumb things, and this is one
of those, the Legislature. We have been peppered with a mailbox full of.
dump ideas, and this is just one of them, so I vote, yes, wholeheartedly on
this.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It is; ridiculous: It. is ,blackmail.
COUNCILMAN MOORE:, This is, actually too complicated to explain. If they
pass the law, it is an illegal . law according to the New York State, and have
never changed, and they are proceeding along their merry way, with now
trying to.; enforce this illegal law against us, and hopefully County
Executive Gaffney will stand up, and tell them they are wrong about this..
It is a dumb idea.
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOA" MARCH 30, 1999
31, Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
32.-Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
Mary C. Wilson to the position of Assistant Town Attorney, at an annual
salary of $40,000.00, effective April 12, 1996, she to hold such office at
the pleasure and will of the Town Board.
32.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is the end of our planned resolutions.
There are no public hearings this evening, so we will go into session. If
there is anyone who would like to share any information, or ask any
questions of the Town Board, we would be very happy to entertain it at
this time.
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: Donna Dzugas, 2745 Tuckers Lane in Southold.
I invite the Town Board to be part of my building process. I have worked
with this Town since May last year to build this small winery. One one one
six square feet, 1,116 square feet, I consider that small. I have done
everything this town wants. I have jumped through hoops. I have done this
on my own. I have paid professionals, where I have had to pay them,
because the government demands you have engineers and things like that. I
have gotten my health stamp approval. I have the'final Site Plan from the
Planning Board. It was scheduled for the 22nd. It was on their agenda. I
showed up at the 7:00 o'clock meeting. I was not notified that there was no
meeting, and it was cancelled due to the fact that only two Planning Board
members were present. As far as a resolution on my site plan, no. That is
because of the way that happened that day, but I do have in my possession
a letter from the Planning Board stating that they are okay, final site plan
approval. It was . just a matter of logistics, not getting everyone at the
quorum for that day. They upped their meeting from April 12th to April
5th. Two other applicants were there that day. So I really do have final
. site plan approval. I pointed out to you today, that I don't but I do. You
can't penalize an applicant when they have done everything, and the Town
is unable to fulfill their obligation when they have a meeting scheduled for
whatever personal reasons, whatever. There has got to be another way that
should be accomplished, but they said, this should suffice me, that this
should not hold up my part in the Building Department. I am not going to
go all the way back to the history of this. A lot of it was already put in
the papers about the Architectural Review Committee, how we went back
and forth, site, backs, and da da da da. We don't need to go
through that. The part we are at is my application went to the Building
Department November, 1998. It was not a complete application, because it
didn't have the Health Department approval, it didn't have the final Site
Plan Approval. The only thing holding that up was the health stamp.
Okay? Bear with me. The reason why we came at that point was, you
remember, the Building Department said they had a eight week backlog.
My engineer advised me, hand it in, wait their eight week back. I go in
January, and say, where is my application? What number am I? Oh, here
it is. A very nice secretary, I don't know her name, comes out, and says,
there is your number, your assigned number, oh good, you are on the top
of the list. Get those stamps, and we are ready to help you out. Great. I
go on vacation with the family for a week, come back, fight with the Health
Department a couple of times, thank God...f..or the Watershed meeting, a
Health Department member ' from' Hauppauge, Hauppauge got Riverhead
moving. I got my health stamp:
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: When did you get that, Donna?
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: February. The exact date is on my survey.
According to Bob Kassner, he said, no problem. They were getting one
copy back. I will photostat it. I will get it to the Building Department.
They know what you, are going through. They know all you need is a
building department approval. In February this was. I said, Mr.
Forrester, are we ready to go on this? I will get back to you. I will
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call you. Can I talk tomorrow, we are kind of busy today? Yeah, okay,
sure, sure. Wait the weekend, that was Friday. Talked to them on
Monday. I didn't get back to you, because we can't find the application.
Can't find the application. My stamped building. . the engineer has to stamp
these plans. The engineer only stamps the three sets that go to the
Building Department: He gives me the engineer plan that don't have
stamps. Every time someone stamps your thing it is dollars. Okay? I can't
run my household or business, because someone else wants me to pay for
another stamp. So, I said, you know, Mr. Forrester, you do me a favor,
and you do yourself a favor, you call my engineer, and tell him. You get
your copy, because I had an unstamped copy in the house. Fine, you can
start your application, we will look at the unstamped copy. Okay, I will
get the survey from the Planning Department. Okay, this is great. He
said, it is all downhill from here, Donna, come on in, we will get this
going. I go in, sign a new application, go down to the Clerk's Office,
re-notarize. I am being very polite. I am not losing my cool yet. Mr.
Forrester says, better get this done before the moratorium on log homes
goes up. I just chuckled along. He was trying to make light of it, too,
and I chuckled along, and he said, hey, you got a good attitude for this.
I said, you know, I have learned after all this, as long as you are trying,
that is the most I can expect. So, the application therefore is moving
along again, I am told. Okay, I have this all documented on calendars,
notes that I am taking. From that day forward there was not a day,
working day, Monday through Friday, that I did not call the Building
Department, or did not personally visit the Building Department to find out
where is my application? Where is it going? One of the phone calls I got,
was treated—maybe she was having a bad day, one of the female workers
in the department answered the phone, and when she heard who was, she
said, Mrs. Dzugas-Smith, well, we found where it went, we mailed it to
you. I said, you did? When did you mail it to me? January 6th, that is
what we have in our records. I said, that's interesting, because I saw you
around that time or right after that time, and you said, it was up at the
top of the list. Nothing was handed to me. I said, where did you mail it?
42200 North Road. I said, what? It is 2745 Tuckers Lane. Who lives
there? You must have given us that address. No, I don't think I did, so
they punch it up on their computer. They mailed it to a building that I
don't have a permit for,. I don't have a CO for, and it , doesn't exist.
Okay. As long as you move this new application along, and I don't have to
be penalized for it, let's just keep going. Mr. Forrester was very nice.
He said, okay. I was assigned to Mike Verity. It is going to move along.
Every day I go through this, comments, oh, see me tomorrow, I am working
on it. Oh, half of the people are out today, and I got to do their work,
too. Now, how come when I call about my project I can only get to talk to
Mike Verity, but he can do other people's project. I got a little confused.
on that one. We are down to the wire here. Last Friday after going
through three weeks of visiting every day, calling every day, either
talking to Mike, or talking to Mr. Forrester, or talking to both (tape
change) Last Thursday he told me, Donna, you can have your foundation
permit tomorrow, I am really going to do this for you. Call me first, and I
will have it ready, so I call. Oh, he is out to lunch. Fine, when will he be
back? I will be picking up those Building permits. There is nothing in
the finished box, and that takes awhile. Okay, tell him I will see him right
after lunch. I will be there 1 :30, 2:00 o'clock. I get there about 2:00
o'clock. Mr. Forrester wasn't there. Mike Verity came down, and said,
hi, what's up or something? I said, I would like to know where my
building permit is. Well, you know, I had the application for three weeks,
a new application for. three weeks, they just 'discovered a problem that
day. That Friday afternoon 'after lunch, I had talked to the engineer, the
floor plans of basement has a stairway going down to here over here, it
needs to be handicapped accessible. No, the tasting room is upstairs. I
have a handicapped space, a ramp to th'e door, I have a handicapped
bathroom. Everything : is one level. Why do. they need to go down to the
basement? It is not open to the public. No,_'this; building is out. You tell
me what the Disability Act says, about a business, then maybe you can tell
the Building Department what the Disability Act says about a business. You
tell me how many basements in this town that businesses have, that their
employees , have excess only to a stairway, no elevator, no ramp, none of
this. All of sudden a new Code applies to Donna Dzugas-Smith. So, Ed
says, I am sorry I promised you. I was wrong. I was out of order. I got to
listen to Mike. He is the . Building Inspector. He said, well, you
know—something is fishy here. Something, is not working out. I said,
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something else is really bugging somebody here. :I, said, because I should
have at least a foundation permit in hand, and then, oh, but you could sue
the town if we give you a permit, and it doesn't fit your. .da, da,
da. I said, you know, guys, come on, tell me what my engineer has to
do, and let's move on with this, talk to us Monday. I call Monday, Mike
was very nice. .He seemed very agreeable, like all the other days, 21 days
that went through, whether it was Mike or Mr. Forrester, oh yeah, you
know I think we can get this done by tomorrow, which is Tuesday. I think
you can get the foundation permit. I can't give you the whole permit. If
you prefer to do the whole permit there are a few corrections. Do you
think the engineer can do it? Yeah. I will get back to you today. He calls
my engineer, who made himself available the whole day, working, he was
probably at his home, but he made sure he was available for my particular
project. The Building Department said, I will call you back before noon.
He never called me yesterday. He called down in the morning. I will call
you back before noon. They never called him. I called this morning, and I
said to my engineer, why don't you call him? Because I have other projects
pending in that department, and I can't, just because of yours, I can't
jeopardize any relationship. I may have to remain with them. So, he is not
going to •rock the boat with this, although something was promised, because
he has other projects. Understandable. Now, he is bewildered, because
now today he got really involved. Mr. Romanelli helped us- out, got a
conference with Mr. Forrester, Mr. Verity, Mr. Romanelli, and myself. I
left that meeting, I was still not completely satisfied with everything they
said, but I was willing to compromise, and get that foundation permit. The
agreement was if your engineer makes this change on the bathroom
foundation, increases the size, okays it, checks it, corrects on the thing,
and gets it in here today, and I told him, you know what? It would look
good for me, it would look good for you, it would look good for every
department in this building if I came to this meeting today with a
foundation permit in my hand. I don't know how much clearer I could have
made that.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Do you have it now? I understand you got that
today.
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: I didn't finish my story. At 2:30 1 show up at
.the Building Department. I got it, I got it, okay, give me the permit, see,
this is what you wanted, right? Yeah, but I am leaving at 3:00 today, I
can't do this now. Before I left, and ran around, first with one kid, then
she gets off the bus, then with two kids, running back and forth,
Mattituck, Southold, Mattituck, Southold. I asked him what his time frame
was. He said, I am skipping lunch today. I am going around. He goes out
to grab a sandwich. Okay, he goes out to grab a sandwich. I call at 12:45,
he is out to lunch.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Who is he, Ed?
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: Mike Verity. Alright the guy is hungry. Fine.
But, then when I show up at 2:30, because he held us up now for the
forty-five minutes to an hour. We did finally get through to him. He did
spend fifteen minutes on the phone with my engineer. We did approve it
all. I drove it back, and then it was like, I am leaving at 3:00 o'clock. I
have an appointment today. When I asked what his time frame was he did
not throw that in, and this is what I have gone through the last
twenty-one days. Every time I walk in there, oh, your doors need to open
out. Okay, so we will open out. Big difference, you know that is not a big
planning difference. There is a lot of little things here, but the big
issue they are trying to make now is, I aM a C2 building. That is what my
engineer marked me as according to,. State, Building Code, C2. C2 business
building. It comes under Merkentile.' This group includes, but not
limited to, auto sales rooms, display rooms, gasoline stations without
maintenance or repair facilities,. markets, and supermarkets, and stores
merchandising products, or a . product; except paint stores with handling
facilities. Okay, that is what . he felt C2 was, and obviously that is what
the Health Department felt it was, too, because the Health Department,
don't forget, stamped, this with the one .bathroom. All of a sudden the
Building Department is saying I need two• bathrooms. Why? I said, don't
get into that part, just get me my cement permit. We will do that part
later. He said, no, A want to know why they are saying two bathrooms,
because according to this C2, if you have 20 employees or less, you need
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one bathroom, and you have to have your service area handicapped
accessible. I need those. Well, they want me to be in C5. C5 is places of
assembly. Just tell me if I fit into any of these, okay, or if this is what
you want for a winery. Remember, too, there are different levels of
wineries. The Town Code has not addressed that, the State has. The State
has addressed small family wineries. They have addressed family wineries,
and they have addressed commercial wineries.
COUNCILMAN MOORE: In the State Building Code?
DONNA DZUCAS-SMITH: In the State Liquor Code, okay? So, your
volume really determines it. Okay? We are the smallest possible thing you
could be, but this is what the Building Department decided I am. Under
C5, C5 classification divided into groups based on the number of persons,
which I can see 5.1, because it is 300 or 1ess people. It certainly
wouldn't be 3,000, or more than a 1,000 people. It says, these are the
people that come in C5, amusement, armories, art galleries, assembly halls,
auditoriums, bathhouses, bowling alleys, clubhouses, coliseums, courtrooms,
dance halls, exhibition halls, grandstands, gymnasiums, tennis courts with
seating for spectators, lecture halls, libraries, lodge halls, museums,
nightclubs, restaurants, recreation centers, halls, skating rinks, tents,
and similar shelters, and theatres. The following groups are included, if
you want to go to the next group you should also include synagogues,
churches, etc. Now, what I understood the Town, as far your winery,
right now at this particular point, you don't want restaurants, don't prefer
to have catering, don't prefer to have loud noise. Well, you know what, B5
that is what they are encouraging. That is what they are encouraging.
My engineer spent twenty minutes on the phone today saying, just tell me
why, tell my why you want a little over 1,000 square feet to be a C5. We
all are butting our heads together, this is the answer, we butted our heads
together in the Building Department, not just the one person that is
assigned to my case, and we decided that is what the winery should be.
So, I am ticked. You ask what the other wineries are. You ask what they
got their CO's on. You find out if they got C5, or C3, or C2. There is
something else going on here. I don't know. Because I am a woman, am I
being discriminated against? I have no idea what is going on. All I know
is sometimes they will say, Donna, everyone goes through this. I will tell
you, if all the citizens in Southold are going through this, why do you live
here? This is ridiculous. Who would want to live in a town like this, that
doesn't listen to it's citizens. I had this talk with Mr. Romanelli. When 1
pay my taxes in January, or I pay in May, I can't go and negotiate with
them, and say, I am only paying this percent, I am only going to give you
this half, because you only did this much. Okay? There shouldn't be any
negotiations in building permit. You have a State Code Book. Every time I
asked, do you know what I was told? I don't have time to do it now, I will
have to give it to you Monday. Every time they gave me a new thing, how
does that pertain to my building? There is something here, and I am
inviting you, all of you, who ever wants to be with me, go through the
process with me, find out how your departments are working. I know how
it is working. Now, there are good things to be said, Mike Verity is very
polite. You definitely sent him to the school of etiquette very well. They
really know how to keep telling you, yes, see you tomorrow, yeah, come
back, we are going to do this, but I told them when I left today, he said,
you are going to get it tomorrow. 1 said, I have heard this before. This is
day 25. Come on, I said, you are going to go to sleep on it, you are going
to look at my thing, and you are going to say, you know what?
discovered another problem, da . da da da da. We can't do this.
You can't do it to a person. . Do you know what I don't want this to lead up
to? Now, it is happening, and it is the Town, and you are representing
our town. Okay? There is no reason for a ,Building Permit to conform to a
Planning Board, after; you have gotten Health Department approval, after
you done all this. There is no reason at , this point to no longer know what
is going on. Okay? ' They know it. We know . it, and there is definitely
friction within that department.. Ed tells you. one thing, then Mike comes
back and . changes it.. . Someone also said, that I wasn't appreciating that
Mike was trying to help me. I want that on record. I am appreciative of
how he i§,_.trying to help me, but I am a woman, and they think I don't
understand what is going on.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Were. you supposed to come in tomorrow?
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DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: The way this is they prefer 'that I call, and don't
waste their time, because it takes more time up at the window. Okay, I will
be considerate, I will call, but very often it is hard to get through. But
now the latest is that supposedly since we did do everything Forrester
was supposed to stay - late, and type it up, but he can't sign it. Mike
Verity has to sign, so he is supposed to come in tomorrow and sign it, and
then it does take paperwork, because they have to do whatever legally has
to be done, and I should be able to pick up the permit. I' just don't want
weird things thrown in .my face tomorrow morning, and then we have three
weeks to get a real permit to get those logs on there. Keep in mind, I
have a Southold family, trying to keep my family here, trying to start a
little business that has very little environmental impact, if anything it is
adding to the environment. Here, this is our piece of land. We have all
these houses along here. This is 28.3 acres. See that little tiny thing on
this map? That is the building. See that bigger thing next door? That is
the parking lot. See all this? That is producing farmland. You don't
realize what you are doing, you are discouraging people from staying in
farming, and from keeping families here, and being self-productive.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Okay, Donna, I am going to bring this down, but
let me say, when you call tomorrow, and they are not ready for you,
please, give me a call. Give me a call either way.
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: I just want to let you know, that we did check
with the post office, I got the thing from the post office saying that they
traced it, and they said, please know that the address given, 42200 North
Road, does not get delivery, and therefore, the mail would have been
returned to the town. It was not then certifies, return receipt, and these
are surveys, and these are building things, ` and we don't send that
certified return receipt? Do you know how much money these things .are?
Everyone must know.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Donna, may I have your phone number?
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: Sure, everyone wants it. 765-3692.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Donna, I am not normally one to defend the
Building Department, but I will come to their defense slightly. I mean, you
have a bit of a runaround, but your plans, I mean, today we had to make
changes on them, so we could get the permit processed. The fault of the
Building Department is approximately they should have looked at those
plans three weeks ago, and told you to have those changes made, because
they couldn't actually process the permit the way the plans were written,
but they should have notified you of that three weeks ago. The reason he
had to go to the engineer today, to run around to Mattituck back and forth
to get it done, because it was not up to Code.
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: Now, hold on a minute, they are still claiming
that is not a handicapped bathroom because of the door. You open it the
other way. We wouldn't have had to enlarge the bathroom, but you know
what? We gave in, and said, we will spend another $100.00 in cement to
have them stamp this thing, and give us a permit; But, to tell you the
truth if you really see that you use the handicapped thing, and he showed
me. He even faxed something over the fax, and we fit it into my bathroom.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Like they told you, turn the door the other
way, but the way it was drawn it wasn't, and in defense of that department
they couldn't approve it the way it was. They should have told you that
weeks ago:
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: That's right, . and .,they also shouldn't say get it
all today, and we will give you a permit today, and then show up at 2:30,
and we don't have time now. You heard them.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Donna, please. call me 'in the morning. We will try
to get this straightened out. Are you going to speak next, Mr. Carlin?
FRANK CARLIN: Frank Carlin. You can relax now. One question, how
are you making out with the bids on the weigh scale? Aren't you getting
some bids on that?
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COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That was the subject of the last Solid Waste
meeting, bids to be discussed, different options for different scales.
FRANK CARLIN: This is not really my main subject. Madam Supervisor, I
am going to have braak this up into two phases, because someone else
might want to speak. I am Frank Carlin from Laurel. Back in 1959 our
Zoning Code consisted of one page. In 1966 it was six pages. In 1984 it
went to 59 pages. In 1997 by last count .it was 184 pages. If you read
through this Zoning Code there are a lot of duplications. You have to be a
Philadelphia lawyer to figure it out. I said it once before, I said it in my
newspaper articles, it should be completely revised and updated, a lot of
duplications in it. I wanted to say to this young lady, the Building
Department said to you, you needed a handicapped stairway going down
cellar, right? You should have said to the Building Inspector, well, how
about yourself in the Town Hall? 'Do you have one going down in the
cellar?
DONNA DZUCAS-SMITH: I didn't want to get personal.
FRANK CARLIN: Well, I am. That is how I work. A good example, practice
what you preach. A good example of this, back in 1990 when Charlie
Zahra was trying to open the Coffee Pot restaurant by the railroad
station. In 1990 they had to take them to court. In 1990 the court ruled in
his favor, that he could have a coffee shop, and an apartment upstairs.
The Building Department said, no, nonconforming, so he couldn't have his
apartment upstairs. Even if the court said so still it was no. Four years
this gentleman put up with this, and finally gave up. That is one of the
reasons why it was vacant over several years before somebody moved in.
At the last Board meeting, I was here, but this gentleman made a statement
saying the reason why you have empty stores is because business people
don't know how to run them. Well, that is ludicrous. There is a man,
where the store is empty, so we should say that he didn't have the
knowledge to run his business. He never even had a chance to open it up.
Another example, the Entemann company, a big nationwide bakery, they
open up a store in Bayshore back in the 30's. It was a little store. They
moved out to increase their business, and moved to Fifth Avenue. Should
we say because that store is empty they didn't know how to run their
business? I don't think so. They were growing and they moved, so let's
not say because we see stores empty that the people don't know how to run
their business. Mr. Cold said it, and I wish he were here tonight. He
said it at the last Board meeting. I meant to say that before I made the
statement. I am talking to him, and he is not here tonight, and I don't like
to do that. That was ludicrous. I agree with Councilman Romanelli. I
agree with Joe Lizewski, and my good friend, Tom Samuels about the
building and site plans, and all this. We never had that years ago. I
don't understand what is going on here. A good example, the winery over
here on Main Road, Peconic. Over two years before the guy could put up
a building. He started with the 400 foot setback, and ended up being 225,
because the architect was arguing back and forth with the Planning Board,
and they couldn't decide which way they wonted it. This lady's log cabin
there, I believe she started out with the 220� foot setback, end up with 130
feet, because the architect couldn't figure it out between the Planning
Board and the Architectural Review Board how far back. Then they say,
we want it this style, and we want the bathroom not facing east, but we
want it facing west. What's the • difference what style you want to build
something, everyone has their own opinions of what they want to do.
Unbelievable. I have said this before, and I will say it again. I said it
once to the Town Board, and I said it once last week in the newspaper,
and I will say it again, ban the Architectural Review Board. Don't all of
you say if you don't :agree with me, because some of you I know do. We
got along years ago without. it. We can .get along without it now. Too much
gridlock. It originally started out to be an advisory .committee. It ended up
being more than that.. Let me ask you a question, anyone on the Council.
I am going to ask you one that. Any one of these members on this
committee a member of the .AIA? Do ,you know what AIA means?
American ;Institute of .Architects, certified by, New York State. Is anyone
of this Board, or Committee, have an engineering background.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI : On the Architectural Review, two local
architects on that.
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FRANK CARLIN: Engineering background.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI : That I couldn't tell you. They are .practicing
architects in the town.
FRANK CARLIN: Practicing? Design background? To me, I don't know
why we need this. Cot along without it all these years, and we survived.
Too many hands in the stew spoils it. Talk about business people here. . l
am going to combine everything, and get it over with. Talk about what Mr.
Cold said, I am sorry he is not here, again, about not knowing enough
about a business, that is why the stores are vacant. Anyone on this Town
Board tell me, you come into Southold Town, you can go to any place in
Southold Town now outside of Rothman's here, and go have a complete
appliance store, where you can select whatever you want, is there any
facility in this town like that? You have to go to P.C. Richards or some
place like that. That is competition. A clothing store for children, men's
store, K-Mart, I remember years back, and Madame Supervisor, you
remember.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thanks, Frank. Today they told me I traveled
in a horse and carriage years ago.
FRANK CARLIN: I remember years ago back in the fifties there was
hardware store right on the corner here where John's restaurant was. Now
it is an ice cream parlor. There was a hardware store there then. I went
in there to buy paint, when I was painting Jimmy Norris's house in Nassau
Point. There is no more there now. That is the reason why the stores are
empty, too much competition. People see what is going on; like this lady
here, what they are going through. You yourself; John, had to wait eight,
or nine months before you got an extension on your building. I know your
story. So, they see all this. They see the confusion. They see the
technicalities. They say, I may or may not end up in court, and then they
give up, I am not going to bother. I can't improve my business so why
should I even open up a store or business, So, that's the problem.
Another thing, when you try to improve your business, Mullen is an
example, with their parking lot here. Trees were being sawed down, and all
that, there was a comment made that he should move his business out,
because it is not the right place. He should move it someplace else. A man
has been there for seventy-five years, you expect a man to move a
business after seventy-five years, because you don't want a few trees
coming down. Some people are leaving this town. We were up to almost
21,000 people. We are getting down there. ' We are down to 19,600 now.
know you don't like to listen to this.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: No, I don't think we have decreased in
population, Frank, but go ahead.
FRANK CARLIN: I say it the way it is. I am sorry.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I have no problem with that, Frank, you know
that.
FRANK CARLIN: That is the way it is. You come up here, and you speak
what is on your mind. this is what I am saying, but anyway, that is the
problem, delays. This lady I feel sorry with all this going around in
circles. It is uncalled for. Something is wrong. Something is wrong here.
I am going into this deeper. I wasn't going to say this now, but I say
what's on my mind. Somebody came up to me the other night, and said,
Frank, why don't you run for Supervisor. We would vote for you. You
wouldn't want me as Supervisor., .I would make changes in this town all in
one day, that would make smoke come out of the window.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Co ahead, Frank. Then you have to deal with
unions and other things, but you do it in one day. Thank you very much,
Frank.
BERNARD HEINISCH: My name is Bernard Heinisch. I live on the North
Road. I would like to comment on what Mr.. Carlin had said, and also,
Donna. Mr. Carlin is 1000 . right. I have attended many of the
Architectural Review Board meetings. I have attended their meetings at the
site, as well . as the Planning Board. All I would hear from the
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Architectural Review Board, Mr. Carlin wasn't there, but move it back,
move it back, turn it this way, turn it that way, and so on and so forth.
They even met there on Donna's property without even notifying her that
they were going to be there, no notification whatsoever. Her particular
winery is probably the smallest in the State of New York. To hear what
this Building Inspector. ( tape change)
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You have ongoing education all the time for
Building Department.
BERNARD HEINISCH: I understand he doesn't have certification at this time.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: If you would like to come in we could show them
to you, Bernie.
BERNARD HEINISCH: In any particular case your Planning Board meeting
of March 22nd was cancelled because you didn't have a quorum.
Yesterday's work session was scheduled for 4:00 P.M. At 12:00 noon I was
there to receive a copy of the agenda, yesterday. They didn't have one at
12:00 noon. Many times the day of the hearing I would stop at the Planning
Board, and ask for a copy of the agenda. It's not ready yet. Come around
around 3:00 o'clock, the meeting is at 4:00, maybe we will have the agenda.
The meeting was scheduled at 4:00 o'clock yesterday. There were several
people waiting at 4:00 o'clock, including myself. Your Town Planning Board
Chairman arrives in the parking lot at 4:15. Another member of your
Planning Board in the parking lot at 4:20. The meeting finally starts
around 4:30. Another member of your Planning Board arrives at 4:40. The
meeting was supposed to be at 4:00 o'clock. Perhaps you should look at
these people. They seem to lack one big thing, organization skills. They
don't have any. If they know they are not going to be able to have a
meeting at 4:00 o'clock, make it at 5:00. Maybe they will be on time. Very
few of you ever attend one of these meetings. I know Mrs. Hussie has at
one time. I doubt if anyone ever attends the workshop meeting of your
Architectural Review Board just to listen to see what they go through. I
would hope you could do something about your Planning Board. They can't
work their own plans let alone the town. 1 see there is eight people
sitting on the dais. You have five microphones. In your budget you have
allotted approximately 1 .2 million dollars for improvements, or additions to
this building. At your work sessions you can not hear anything. You make
no attempt to amplify any of the work sessions, make no attempt. Sitting
here no one can hear. They sit on the edge of the seat, even if they are
siting in the front row. I happen to have a hearing problem. If you modify
your PA system everyone could hear. One microphone for everyone sitting,
is the Town that broke? To say you share microphones, that is nonsense. A
mike should be placed in front of everyone sitting on the dais.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Bernie, you know we are working on this. You
were invited to come in. We are working on trying to have a hearing. . .
BERNARD HEINISCH: You are working on something for the hearing
impaired.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: And you agreed to this, that we would hold the
hearing impaired part, we are working on, because we are also working on
the PA system at the same time, and Betty has been handling that.
BERNARD HEINISCH: But just to satisfy me, or several people that are in
the same position as I am with �a hearing problem, and just to satisfy these
few people, you could satisfy everyone by putting in a good PA system.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: By' the time we get finished we should satisfy
everyone, Bernie. You complained to .the . .
BERNARD HEINISCH: I complained to the Federal Disability.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, and they were the ones that called, and the
woman in going through solving your complaint; we have to satisfy you, as
the complainant.
BERNARD HEINISCHt , So, , you have to satlofy me, as the complalnant by
doing something to the whole system, and you will satisfy the complainant.
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SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are working on it. Thank you. Any one else
like to address the Town Board?
JACK WILLIAMS: Jack Williams from East Marion. Are we to assume by
your silence that there are no reportable developments with regard to the
electric company, or the Cross Sound Ferry, or the moratorium?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Greg, will you fill in where we are, and what we
are waiting for, the opinions that we sent for?
TOWN ATTORNEY YAKABOSKI : Regarding the probation of the public
utilities agency, there was some questions, and by Board resolution there
was an opinion sought from the Federal Regulatory Commission on a State
level from both the Attorney General's Office, and the State Comptroller's
Office. Those letters went out.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are waiting for responses.
JACK WILLIAMS: And the moratorium?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Bill?
COUNCILMAN MOORE: We had a little problem with our consultant, or I
should say, he had a problem, which became our problem, and that was his
hard drive on his computer crashed, and he called . me last week, because
he had the problem. I got E-mail over the weekend from him, and thank
goodness, he was able to get the thing out for repairs, and I will speak
with him tomorrow as far as when we expect his":report, but he got sent
back to the woodshed with last week's news. He was scared to death, and
rightly so, because he knew I was quite angry with the kind of report, but
he sent the hard drive out, and they have got it resurrected, and
hopefully quite soon we will have his report for the Town Board, get him
back on schedule.
JACK WILLIAMS: Sounds like the kind of guy that could do an efficiency
study on the Building Department, and Cross Sound Ferry.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It is still in litigation.
JACK WILLIAMS: May I make a suggestion? When you . do budget
modifications one after another, if you could attach a dollar figure to the
budget modification it would help us to know what was consequential, and
what was inconsequential.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Okay, we can certainly do that. Anyone else
like to address that Town Board? Ronnie Wacker?
RONNIE WACKER: My name is Ronnie Wacker from Cutchogue, and I
have a copy of the agenda, and I wasn't able to make the Work Session this
morning, but I see there was a discussion of Fort Corchaug. Well, I- was
Co-Chair of the Management Committee, although it was official disbanded in
January, and I am still interested in what is happening to my baby.
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SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Your baby is doing fine, but at this point I am
going to be meeting with Tim Grathwohl in relation, to the Friends of Fort
Corchaug, and in addition to that Tim Caufield when he was hear
several weeks ago, is doing a report on the management, and he will be
coming in. He said he would have it finished in the next couple days, so
we will schedule it for the next meeting, so we will hear what he has to
say, also.
RONNIE WACKER: 1 would like to know have Peconic Land Trust, and
Milner, who is scheduled to work, with them on the plan come up with any
kind of plan, because they have. come up with a request for money, but
they haven't yet said, this is .what we. envision for the whole area, and
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Alice Hussie has said a couple to times, if you are going to come up asking
us for money, tell us what you plan to do there, and this is what we are
wondering about.
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SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We have taken no direction as far as hiring
Milner, you know, for $75,000 to develop a plan. We will talk with Tim,
and we will schedule it on the next meeting when Tim is here, and we here
that side of it. Then we can put things together.
RONNIE WACKER: You are going to ask them about what kind of
comprehensive plan they are thinking of? We were just wondering, it has
been going on for quite awhile.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, it has. It took a long time to buy it. It
took us years to get it. We would like to move as much as you would,
Ronnie. Thank you. Anyone else like to address the Board?
JOHANNA NORTHAM: My name is Johanna Northam, Southold. Number
10 resolution authorize the establishment of the vault environmental capital
project, what is that?
JUSTICE EVANS: It is putting dehumidifiers in the vault.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Betty's department received a grant, and we
have down cellar, what you would call a morgue, and we are very
concerned with the way the records are maintained, because we don't want
to lose anything, so Betty, if you would like to explain.
JOHANNA NORTHAM: I understand. Another thing, I am on the Board
of the North Fork Environmental Council, and we are planning a program
April 24th. You all will get an invitation. We are going to have Steve
Jones. We are going to have Benny Orlowski, and we are encompassing
Riverhead, so they don't get left out, and we are inviting people from the
business community, so we need the word to get out. I see here number
4, request of Steve Jones for informational outreach.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Under discussion items, we received a letter from
Steve, and he is interested in getting out a brochure explaining what he is
presenting. He spoke with Mike LaGrande when the $75,000 grant came
in, and Mike said he saw no problem with some of those funds being used
for this brochure. It was my feeling that it was premature until we get the
written draft, and we can all digest it before he goes out, and begins to
develop a brochure telling people what it is all about. So, that is what
this is about. It is premature. We haven't gotten it written yet. We are
anxiously waiting.
BERNARD HEINISCH: My name is Bernard Heinisch, again, North Road.
There is one item I forgot to mention. Very seldom does the Town Board
take any recommendations to my knowledge from any of the audience,
except that one time approximately I made a recommendation on some signs
for the Board of Appeals, and so on and so.forth. To this day I don't see
any signs. Now, there is an old saying, retiring from the school district we
always say a minister never makes any bad decisions, because they never
make any. What happened to the signs?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI : Bernie, they were approved, and I believe it
was the end of last year, it had to wait for next year's budget, so this
year's budget came around, and we approved the signs, and I have just,
through all my other things going on in life, I have not had the signs
made. I had to wait for this year's budget to come out, because we couldn't
do in the '98 budget, because there is not enough money in each
department to make them, so it is in my lap, and I just have not done it,
although we did approve them.
BERNARD HEINISCH: . This .really sounds ';like the Building Department
now. It certainly does.,
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you for your reminder. We will see that
they are printed. Mr. Carlin?
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FRANK CARLIN: I just had a few short remarks. With Charlie Zahra, I
didn't quite finish, I was in a hurry. I tried to push it through about the
upstairs apartment, and the Building Department after the Court said, go
ahead with the upstairs,, and the restaurant, the Building Department said,
no way, it is non-conforming. But, I could take you right around the
corner in the village of a store that has an apartment above it. I could
take you right through Southold.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: There are lots of them.
FRANK CARLIN: Back to the question that John had. What I said about
being qualified, are they qualified in the electrical codes, and everything,
like how many inches from the floor.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI : That falls into the Building Department. That
is the Building Department qualification.
FRANK CARLIN: From the good old days, I can't forget the good old
days. Madame Supervisor, I think you will agree with me. Back in 1968 we
had an area in Mattituck, where we needed three street lights. Judge
Tuthill, do you remember old Judge Tuthill, he was a member of the
Board? Passed away. God bless him. I call him up, and said, Judge, we
are having a problem here with some people here in Mattituck need three
street lights put up here. Would you be kind enough to look into it? He
said, I will, Frank. Low and behold, the next day he sent a man down. He
looked it over, and the day after, he said, if it isn't enough let me know.
Those were the good old days. You got things done. There was no hassle
and dance around the bush. I don't think we will ever see them again.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, ma'am?
JOHANNA NORTHAM: I just want to add something to what was said
about Fort Corchaug. You know there is talk about structures, or
whatever, money is going into it. I have walked there. It is absolutely
beautiful, and I don't think it really needs much. I think most of the
things should be left in it's natural state. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like ;t.o address the Board? Yes,
Donna?
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: I promised her if she behaved she could speak.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: If she can stop giggling. Tell us, Brittany.
BRITTANY DZUGAS-SMITH: Can you help my family make a winery?
DONNA DZUGAS-SMITH: Can you help my family make a winery? She
said, why don't you just ask them that?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We will try. If there is no one else who would
like to address the Board I will call on Board reports.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: The only thing I have to say is that I went to
the Ferry Symposium, you were there too, of course, and I must say I was
absolutely stunned by the number of agencies, and everything else that get
involved in this. I couldn't believe it. There were fifteen different places
that you had little grooves that you had to put a little slot in.
Unbelievable. Will we ever solve the problem?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are working on,-it., : Nothing has a guarantee
in life, but I felt it was a. very; successful .conference, because we had the
Mayor of Glen Cove. ,We had people all the, way up and down. No matter
what you read in the .paper everyone was invited. We had four people from
the Cross Sound Ferry. We had the Mayor of Greenport, New Haven, we
had people along the side of Connecticut, and it was a regional conference
on ferry service, and I was very pleased. We had people from Safe Roads
attend, and I was very pleased, because it kept on a level of looking at the
transportation needs in a regional area, and . it didn't examine just a local
problem. The ferry people were impressed. The roads people were
impressed, and the Secretary of State was with us, and he was impressed,
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and I would like to thank Valerie Scopaz, and the Planning Department
for the job that they did, and Neb Brashick, they all worked together
on it, and the Secretary of State was very pleased. Alice, do you have
anything else to report?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: The only thing I wanted to add to continue was
that Valerie did a marvelous job of coordinator. She really should be
complimented.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Brian?
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Nothing at this time.
JUSTICE EVANS: Nothing.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I have some things but I am trying to hold, also,
along with Bill, but I will tell you. I had word about three weeks ago, and
then the Chamber mentioned it again this morning, but it sounds like, and
I hope I am not announcing this, and then we are disappointed. It is the
State has approved finally a traffic light by the Mattituck A&P. So, that is
good news, and I think each Town Board over the last fifteen years have
been trying to get a traffic light up there for the safety of people. The
only thing I would like to say at this point was as you heard earlier we
passed a resolution in reference to the old house next door for search and
rescue. This is requested by the Southold Fire Department. They will be
inviting the other departments, be it Mattituck, be it Creenport. It is
going to be ongoing for as long as they need it, training. There will be no
damage to the building. There will be no water used. There will be no
holes poked in the wall, but it will help them to develop their skills in
their search and rescue, so that heaven forbid it doesn't, but if they ever
had a fire with children in a bedroom upstairs, or so forth, they could
handle to the best of their ability, because of their training, so we are
quite pleased we are able to share this. At this time I will entertain a
motion to adjourn.
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at
9:00 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
EI abeth A. Nevill
Southold Town Clerk