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S0UTH0LD, L. I., N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Hepber+ Resenbe4
Charles Gregonis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
M I N U T E `S
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF' APPEALS
November 7,. 1963
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of' Appeals
was held ,7:30 P.M. , Thursday,, November 7, 1963- at the Town
Office,, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs.- Robert W. Gillispie,, Jr. ,,
. Chairman, Robert Bergen,_ and Fred Hulse, Jr.
Absent: Messrs. Charles Grigonis,, Jr. ,, and Serge Doyen,. Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 615 - 7:30 P.M. (E.S.T. ) s, upon
application of Edward Latham,, Main. Road, Orient,. New York,, for a
variance in accordance with the' Zoning Ordinancet,, Article III,:
Section 303 and Article X,, Section 1090A,, for permission to divide
and sell a parcel of land having. 95 ft. frontage. Location of
property: east- side Youngs Road,.. Orient,, New York?, bounded north
by Raymond E. Golder, east by -other land of Edward Latham?;. south
by Elisha Haberman,,. and west by Youngs' Avenue. Fee paid $5. 00.
- Southold Town Board of- Appeals -2- November' 7, 1963
The' Chairman opened the hearing by reading application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing,. affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper and notice to
the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present- who wishes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response. )
THE' CHAIRMAN: Mr. Latham has a lot here which cannot be
enlarged in width and it has more than sufficient- area. He
is .planning to sell the lot- to Mr. Oscar ' Saul.
THE' CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishex to
speak against this application3
(There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
this lot has a frontage of 95 feet. It is a parcel remaining
between other 100 ft. front lots which haV.e been sold at
various times- prior to the Zoning- ordinance, The depth of
the lot is 150 ft. therebyr:caus ng it to have more than the
required square footage.
The Board finds that the strict-application of the
Ordinance will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary
hardship; the hardship created is ' unique and would not be
shared by all properties alike in the immediate vicinity of
this property and in the' same use district; and the variance
does observe the spirit of the ordinance and will not change
the character of the district.
On motion of Mr. Gillispie,', -seconded by_ Mr. Bergen,, it
was
REGOLVED that- Edward- Latham be granted permission to
divide and sell a parcel of land on Youngs Roadt Orimt,,New
York,. having a frontage of 95 feet -and a depth of 150 feet.
This parcel is bounded north by Golder and south by 'Haberman.
- Southold Town Board of Appeals -3- November 7, 1963
vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,,.
and Mr. Hulse.
On motion of Mr. Gillispie,. seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Board of:Appeals of October
24,, 1963,, be approved as submitted.
vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie,,. Mr. Bergen,
and Mr. Hulse..
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 616- 7:45' P.M. (E.S.T. ) , upon
application of: Edwin H.. King, private Road,,_ Orient Point,, New
York,, fors a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article Xt.-Section 1007,,. Subsection (d) ,, for permission to re-
establish a non-conforming gas: statio# use which has been
discontinued for over two years'. Location of property: south
side Route 25,, Orient Point,. New York,, bounded north by Route
25,. east by State - Park property,. south by other land of Edwin
H. King,,. and west by Sergio Casavecchia. Fee paid $5. 00.
The Chairman opgped the hearing by reading application
for a _variance,: legal notice of hearing,. affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper and notice to
the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present- who wishes to
speak for this application?
MR. EDWIN H. KING: The reason I made it was I rented
the building to a .lobsterman who has been here this summer and he
asked if he could live in the building. He hasn't moved in
yet but- he paid rent as of the first-. of November. This gas
station building was a gas station in Mattituck. I Moved it down
about 12 years ago. Before there was- a much larger building
there and.Joe, Droskoski has it on the Main Road now.
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Many years ago we had the building as a grocery store-
as well as gas station and it was open to the public and the
two gas pumps have been there over 40 years. The lobsterman
said he would like to have a permit to sell gas if' anyone
wanted any and I said I would make an application. I believe
one of these days there will be quite a demand for gas stations
down there.
THE' CHAIRMAN: Was the gas station ever closed to the
public?
MR. KING: Yes,., it was closed to the public but we never
stopped using it for the farm.
(A hand drawn map appeared in the file showing the location
of the building. The building is approximately 22 feet from
the State Highway. )
THE' CHAIRMAN: There is a picture in the file which indicates
that it is a small well-preserved buildingjust before you reach
the marina.
(The Chairman explained that the Board has spent a great
deal of time studying gas stations. They have as a result set
up standards regarding setbacks, location of pumps,, parking
facilities,, etd.. The Chairman read an action of 'a gas station
granted previously.)
MR. KING: The property across the street is "A" Residential
but on the same side of the street several hundred feet away it
. is "B" Business.
'THE' CHAIRMAN: where are the pumps?
MR. KING: They are on the east side of the building.
There is about 65 feet between the building and the west side
of the State park property and the tanks are located there.
There is a small one in front.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak for this application?
(There was no responses )
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no respcn se. )
THE` CHAIR_MAN: We have received letters of opposition which
I will read.
.. (The Chairman read a letter of opposition from George L.
Youngs, Jr. ,, Orient; A. Nelson Chapman;. Long IslandState Park
Commission,, Babylon, N.Y. ,, G. Frank Dougherty:.,- Counsel. )
ice. X G: I believe this will help people and not harm
anyone. There are many times when thiswould be helpful to
people and it was many times in the past.
TITS' CHAIRMAN: Has there ever::.. been any formal application
for a .gas station down there?
MR. TERRY: No formal application.
THE' CHAIRMAN: I can agree with the State Park Commission
that a big elaborate gas station would tend to downgrade a
State Park property.
(There was discussion not pertinent to this application
relative to the acquisition of'property by the. State Park
Commission from Mr. King and others. Mr. Ray Tabor an employee
of the State Park- Commission at orient- Point explained some of
the details from the Park- Commissions s point of view*. )
MR. RAY TABOR: I personally have no objection to a gas
station by Mr. King,. however I feel in that particular area
it' would make a congested and hazardous area which does not
exist now. The entrance to the park - is a little exaggerated
and the entrance is closer' to the gas station than would be
indicated by explanation. , The entrance is quite close.,, it' is
not more than 75 feet away. My wife and I are not in objection
to it but I-know the- Park- commission has written a letter and
I felt I ' should appear as a representative of the 'Commission
in this area.
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THE' CHAIRMAN: If this use was not valuable when; Zoning
went in when did it become. valuable?
MR. KING: This will be just a convenience. It will be
open in case anyone wants a few gallons of gas.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is this. lobsterman going to be at the station
all the time or will he be doing both jobs?
MR. KING: Well:. he has a lobster car down at the marina
and he will sell gas just- part -time. '
ust part time. He may be there and he
may not be.
MRS. RAY TABOR: I came up here tonight and I did not
object, but if it is just going to be for a little gas and
ruin the whole neighborhood I am against it. I 'do not- see the
purpose of it.
THE' CHAIRMAN: This does not seem like a gas station to
me it seems like. a hobby.
Is there anyone else present who wishes to speak for or
against this application?
(There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the .property of the applicant has not been used for the sale
of gas and oil for approximately 10 years. _. While the present
application did not project any extension of these uses other
than the sale of gas and oil2, the proposed operation would be
intermittent and unpredictable based on the time which the
operator would be free, to devote to the gas station from his -
other activities.
The Board was unable to substantiate the claim that it
would be an unusual hardship to deny this application,, nor
is the hardship a unique situation since everyone would be
denied permission to operate a gas station intermittently.
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The Board is in agreement with the applicant- that- the
proposed use would not substantially change the neighborhood,,,
although the State Park Commission feels strongly to the
contrary.
It is understood this application is being denied without
prejudice to any future application which might- contemplate an
enlarged gas station which would be useful to a developing area.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will not be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will be permanently or' substantially injured and the
spirit- of the Ordinance will not be observed.
On motion of.'Mr. Gillispie,, seconded by Mr. Hulse,, it was
'RESOLVED that Edwin H. King be denied permission to re-
establish a non-conforming gas station use which has been dis-
continued for over two years at the south side of:Route 25,.
. Orient/:. New York,. west of the State Park property.
Point
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie?. Mr. Bergen,, and
Mr. Hulse.
The next-meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
will be held 7:30 P.M. , Thursday,, November 21,. 1963 at the
Town Office,. Main Road,, Southold,, New York.
On motion of Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen,. it- was
RESOLVED that the Board of Appeals set 7:30 P.M. (E.S.T. ) ,,
Thursday,, November 21,, 1963s, Town Office,, Main Road,. Southold,
New York as time and place for' hearing upon. application. of Frank
S. Thorp,, East- Marion, New York,, for a variance in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance,. Article III,,, Section 303 and Article
X,, Section 1000As for permission to set off a lot having
in side
sufficient frontage and area. Location of property:
southof private road,_- South Lane, . East- Marion, New York,. bounded
north by'South Lane,, east by Thorp, south by Beach area owned
by Thorp, and west by private right-of-way.
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Voto of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillespie, Mr. Bergen, and
Mr. Hulse.
On motion of Mr. Bergen,. seconded by. Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Board of Appeals set 7:45 P.M. (E.S.T. ) ,,
Thursday,, November 21,. 1963 ,, Town Office, Main Road, Southold,
New York as time and place for hearing upon application of Jane
C. McKenna,, Park Avenue, Mattituck, New York, for recognition of
access in accordance with State of 'New York Town Law,, Section
280A. Location of property: private right-of-way on the south
side of Park Avenue, Mattituck,. New York,, bounded north by other
land of McKenna,, east by private right-of-ways, south by other land
of McKenna,, and west by'C. H. Wickham.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie,. Mr. Bergen,, and
Mr. Hulse.
On motion of Mr. Hulse,, seconded by'Mr. Gillispie,, it was
RESOLVED that the Board of. Appeals set 8: 00 P.M. (E.S.T. ) ,.
Thursday, November 21,, 1963, Town Office, Main Road, Southold,,
New York as time and place for hearing uprn application of Douglas
Beebe & Son, a/c Clifford Tyler, Jr. ,, Bay Avenue, Cutchogue, New
York,. for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III,. Section 307, for permission to reduce the side yard
setback to 9 feet on a lot located on the west side Bay'Avenue,,
Cutcf ogue,, New York,, bounded north by,-A. V. Doroski, east by Bay
Avenue,, south and west by A. V. Doroski.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,, and
Mr. Hulse.
It was FURTHER RESOLVED that legal notice of the hearings
be published in the official newspaper on November 15, 1963.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. Gillispie,. Mr. Bergen,, and
Mr. Hulse.
Meeting adjourned at 9:45' P.M.
PP ROVEED Respectfully submitted,
fl C an Judith T. Boken,, Secretary
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